Human Events with Jack Posobiec, April 2nd, 2026

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Human Events with Jack Posobiec – April 2, 2026

Podcast: Real America’s Voice – Human Events with Jack Posobiec
Episode Date: April 2, 2026
Co-hosts/Guests: Benny Ray Harmony (co-host), Will Chamberlain (Article III Project), Rich Barris (People’s Pundit)

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on major political developments in Washington, D.C., with a focus on the sudden shakeup at the Department of Justice, impacts on the Trump administration, and the broader political climate heading into the 2026 midterms. The panel discusses the implications of Attorney General Pam Bondi's removal, ongoing legal battles around birthright citizenship, and the administration's strategy to regain favor with key voter blocs. Interwoven are candid conversations about faith, American values, and the significance of Holy Week.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Major Cabinet Shakeup: Removal of AG Pam Bondi

• Breaking News: The episode opens with analysis of President Trump’s decision to remove Attorney General Pam Bondi, installing Deputy AG Todd Blanche as interim head. The hosts stress the move’s suddenness, noting that Blanche was a recent guest on the show and did not hint at the change ([05:37]).
• Why Now? Debate emerges over whether this turnover is typical “one-year shuffle” or a more political calculation aimed at addressing internal and public dissatisfaction.
  • Benny Ray Harmony (07:07): “People saw this coming a little bit...she’s done an excellent job and she’s been a Trump loyalist...but there are going to be a lot of questions surrounding [her removal].”
  • Jack Posobiec (07:29): Recalls Bondi’s long-term loyalty, but suggests the administration is pursuing “certain goals, certain missions” that demand new leadership.

2. DOJ Succession & Performance Review

• Todd Blanche as Interim AG: Perspective from legal analyst Will Chamberlain, who describes Blanche as “a really, really good lawyer and a really, really good Deputy Attorney General” ([18:01]).
• Pam Bondi’s Record: Mixed reviews on Bondi’s tenure.
  • Wins: 92% win rate at the Supreme Court, strong enforcement on crime, handling of immigration cases.
  • Weaknesses: Communications missteps, particularly with the Epstein case, and lack of proficiency with modern media.
  • Will Chamberlain (15:49): “She was running the department well...not doing a great job on the comms side...not the most sophisticated social media user...Some communications from her department felt a little stilted.”

3. Birthright Citizenship Supreme Court Case

• Current Legal Battle: The panel debates prospects for the Trump administration in the Supreme Court on birthright citizenship, given a tough line of questioning in oral arguments.
  • Strategic Path Forward: If the administration loses, alternative strategies are raised, like a constitutional amendment or state-level actions to restrict birthright citizenship ([27:41]).
  • Will Chamberlain (28:53): Details possible legal “splitting the baby” solutions, like cracking down on ‘birth tourism’ while maintaining citizenship rights for children of long-term legal residents.
  • Jack Posobiec (30:11): Points out perceived inconsistencies in liberal jurisprudence regarding unborn children and citizenship.

4. Political Implications: 2026 Midterm and Voter Sentiment

• Polling and Optics: Rich Barris delivers a blunt pollster’s perspective, declaring that Bondi “may have hurt the President more than anyone” due to her association with the Epstein files ([38:17]).
  • Rich Barris: “She’s the most unpopular cabinet member in the administration. This is a better late than never. I would have liked to see this earlier.”
• Targeting Swing Voters: Emphasis shifts from base mobilization to reaching swing and soft-Republican voters, especially women over 50 who are “really swingy and on the edge” ([44:35]).
  • Key Issues for Voters: Inflation and the economy top the charts; foreign policy ranks much lower.
  • Barris (44:35): “It was actually the female voter over 50 who was really swingy and on the edge. It was the economy for them.”

5. Broader Reflections: Faith, Community, and Holy Week

• Personal & Cultural Commentary: The hosts transition into a heartfelt segment on personal faith, Holy Week, and the enduring relevance of biblical values.
  • Jack Posobiec (54:01): Reflects on Christ’s sacrifice and teaches on forgiveness, humility, and service, drawing parallels to today’s toxic culture of revenge and division.
  • Benny Ray Harmony (54:35): “...What did [Jesus] do? He didn’t change anything. He still washed [Judas’s] feet...We have to hold on to that. The humility, the service. I think we’ve lost track.”
  • Episode also promotes upcoming faith-based events (Turning Point tour, Museum of the Bible).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Trump’s Showmanship:
  “The President’s a showman. He knows what time it is...If anyone can do this, Jack, it’s him. And he knows exactly what to do in order to shift...I just hope we don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.”
  — Rich Barris ([40:31])

• On Cabinet Turnover:
  “This shows President Trump, he’s on top of it...Even if that person that he first put into place maybe isn’t that person anymore, he’s going to relocate them and try new.”
  — Benny Ray Harmony ([07:29])

• Legal Humor:
  “For further discrimination, please go to Will Chamberlain on X...where we advocate for various types of discrimination.”
  — Will Chamberlain, tongue-in-cheek on immigration law ([33:19])

• On Modern Division vs. Biblical Humility:
  “Someone betrays you...What do kids in my generation want to do? They want revenge...and then you look at that story and you’re like, no. [Jesus] still washed his feet.”
  — Benny Ray Harmony ([54:35])

• On What Matters to Voters:
  “You just have to be seen optically as fighting for what people want...Inflation is number one. Economy and jobs, health care, then it’s accountability. Number five is immigration.”
  — Rich Barris ([44:35])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Segment / Topic| |--|--------------------------| | 05:37 | News breaks on AG Bondi’s removal—Cabinet turnover analysis begins | | 07:07 | Benny Ray on the mood in Washington and Cabinet musical chairs | | 15:49 | Will Chamberlain reviews Bondi’s DOJ record | | 18:01 | Prospects for Todd Blanche as interim AG | | 27:41 | Birthright citizenship case at the Supreme Court: legal strategies | | 38:17 | Rich Barris: polling insights on Bondi’s departure | | 44:35 | Top issues for midterm voters; economic focus | | 54:01 | Faith and Holy Week—reflection on humility, forgiveness | | 56:44 | Preview of Turning Point event at GWU & campus outreach | | 57:16 | Benny Ray on the importance of student involvement and feeling heard |

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Recap & Takeaways

• DOJ Shakeup Signals Shift: Removal of Pam Bondi seen both as routine and as an overdue response to her political liabilities, particularly around Epstein revelations and communications missteps.
• Administration Strategy: Moving Blanche into the interim slot aims to maintain DOJ continuity and improve transparency.
• Legal & Political Crossroads: The administration braces for possible loss at the Supreme Court on birthright citizenship, eyeing alternative legal and political maneuvers.
• Midterm Messaging: Economic hardship, inflation, and accountability are clear voter priorities—faith and American identity also serve as rallying points.
• Faith’s Enduring Role: In the midst of political rancor, the show underscores humility, service, and forgiveness as enduring values—tying the country’s past, present, and future to biblical traditions and the ongoing observance of Holy Week.

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Summary prepared for listeners who missed the April 2, 2026 Human Events episode. For further information, detailed show notes, or to follow the featured guests, consult Real America’s Voice or referenced social media accounts.

Transcript

[Jack Posobiec]

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[Benny Ray Harmony]

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[Jack Posobiec]

President Trump leaving the Supreme Court after a historic 90 minute first visit by a sitting president. As the government's attorney argued, birthright citizenship has become exploited. We're in a new world now, as Justice Alito pointed out to you, where 8 billion people are one plane ride away from having a child who's a US citizen. Today, as hundreds of immigrant advocates rallied outside the court, most of the just signaled they aren't buying Trump's plan. They're so jealous of Erica. I said, you know, sue, they're you, I can say it. You're not allowed to say that. You have to be nicer. Sue their off.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

We have confirmed from multiple sources, John, that the president has been talking privately recently about replacing the attorney general, Pam Bondi, firing her from her role running the Justice Department and actually instead putting the EPA administrator Lee Zeldin in that position.

[Jack Posobiec]

President Trump in a primetime update on the war in Iran suggested the operation is close to an end. We are on track to complete all of America's military objectives shortly, very shortly. Nothing new on a timeline, but President Trump offered a full throated defense of the war. My first preference was always the path of diplomacy. Yet the regime continued their relentless quest for nuclear weapons following weeks of attacks on Iran. President Trump promised to continue the US Bombing campaign, but said nothing about American boots on Iranian soil. For years, everyone has said that Iran

[Rich Barris]

cannot have nuclear weapons.

[Jack Posobiec]

But in the end, those are just words. If you're not willing to take action when the time comes. Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. We're Here live, Washington, D.C. on Real America's Daily Voice. Today is April 2nd. April 2nd is, of course, April 2nd, 2026. Anno Domini. Here live in studio riding shotgun, co pilot today is Benny Ray harmony, our Washington, D.C. correspondent for Real America's Voice and as longtime viewers will remember, the original producer of human events. What's up, Benny Ray?

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Oh, nothing, Jack. Just happy to be here.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, and we see a big day. We see, of course, another big day and yet another change in the White House. As we've seen, another Cabinet official is now moving out. News just breaking really, just before we went to air here that AG Bondi will be leaving the Department of Justice. And in fact, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche is moving in as the interim head of the, of the Department of Justice. And interesting enough, we had Todd Blanch here on this program just a few days ago for a full sit down interview where we talked about all things antifa, we talked about the Epstein releases, we talked about the Charlie Kirk case, and he was able to give us as much information as we could. So just a few days ago, we had Todd Blanche on, which unbeknownst to myself and his staff certainly didn't notice, he didn't mention us that, that this would be coming up. So this may have been a bit of a surprise move. We've also seen, of course, just in the last few days that it was the Department of Homeland Security had its turnover of Kristi Noem and then the takeover by Mullins. You're here in D.C. you're on the Hill. You're hearing this over and over. What do you, what is your make? What are you hearing out of Capitol Hill in terms of some of the turnover that's going on? And to be sure, usually at the one year mark you do see turnover in the Cabinet. How much of this is that versus how much of this, from what you're hearing, is, is, is the president, you know, putting people into different spots?

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Well, I will say I remember we were sitting in the briefing room the day that it was announced that Kristi Noem was being replaced. And the first topic next was what's he going to do with Pam Bondi? A lot of people had questions. They kind of, I think people saw this coming a little bit. There were some questions surrounding it. We were talking about, you know, she's done an excellent job and she's been a Trump loyalist for, you know, how many years, has been by his side. But there have been, she was right.

[Jack Posobiec]

She was right there in Philadelphia in 2020.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Right, right there. I mean, she, she really has not left his side. And so I think that it's probably a difficult decision. What are you going to do? But you know, with Kristi Noem now leaving and with Pam Bondi, like I said, there's lots of conversations around it. But also I think this shows kind of the movement of the administration. I think a lot of even people in the press, they can see that. Whereas in former administrations, the president's kind of just, even if they weren't happy with the performance of their cabinet members, they didn't do anything. And so this shows President Trump, he's on top of it and he has certain goals, certain missions that he wants to accomplish. And even if that person that he first put into place maybe isn't that person anymore, he's going to relocate them and try new. And so I think overall, I mean, I think this was a good move, but I think there are going to be a lot of questions surrounding it.

[Jack Posobiec]

And of course we're digging in as well and you know, a lot of questions, of course, to come up. Will there be more, will there be more turnover for the administration if there's this rumor that Lee Zeldin may come over from epa? So yeah, so you would create another

[Benny Ray Harmony]

open, you'll have him interim and then what's going to happen after that? Is he going to go back to being second in line? What's that going to look like?

[Jack Posobiec]

Or maybe he goes over to epa? Yeah, well, I mean there's, there's quite a bit the musical chairs and of course we know that in the first administration there was turnover as well. So that is certainly to be expected as we are hurtling towards a midterm election in November as well. The President giving his remarks last night. We were live here on Real America's Voice, Benny Ray, myself covering all of that in real time. So stay tuned for more. We're going to have updates on this as it develops. Human Events Daily continues here live. Washington, D.C. Sam.

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[Benny Ray Harmony]

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[Jack Posobiec]

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[Benny Ray Harmony]

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[Jack Posobiec]

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[Benny Ray Harmony]

Yeah, me too.

[Jack Posobiec]

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[Benny Ray Harmony]

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[Jack Posobiec]

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[Benny Ray Harmony]

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[Jack Posobiec]

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[Benny Ray Harmony]

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[Benny Ray Harmony]

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[Jack Posobiec]

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[Jack Posobiec]

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[Benny Ray Harmony]

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[Jack Posobiec]

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[Benny Ray Harmony]

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[Jack Posobiec]

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[Benny Ray Harmony]

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[Jack Posobiec]

And as you can imagine, like when the princess loves it, like, we're all happy when Mom's doing well. We want that. So. Yeah. Ghostbed.com poso promo code poso. Now, that being said, though, news of the day, the news we may sleep, but the news never does, especially in Washington, D.C. i want to get Wilt Chamberlain on now from the Article three projects because you guys know everything that's going on in Washington, D.C. from the legal perspective, of course. You were covering tremendous coverage, by the way, yesterday of the Supreme Court hearing that I saw you doing as well over on the Charlie Kirk show and just on Twitter in general. And will this news out of the Department of Justice. Now, I gotta ask, man, do you think that Trump just really didn't like being over at the Supreme Court yesterday and that this is some way tied to. To the Department of Justice changeover? What's going on?

[Will Chamberlain]

I think that could be it, but it's not really. I doubt that Pam Bondi would be the person you'd be frustrated. I mean, John Sauer is a Solicitor General and I mean, John Sauer and people should. One, we haven't even lost that case yet. I think people are dooming too much over it. As I mentioned on Charlie Kirk yesterday, I think we've got a fighting chance and it was a tough case from the beginning, but I think this more has to do with some lingering frustrations with Bondi over the past year and a half. That said, I mean, I've always been a person who thinks that Bondi's actually done a pretty good job, especially on the terms of running the department. We're sort of victory is in the law take a long time, and we're starting to see more and more of them come out. I mean, we got a 92% win rate at the Supreme Court. We're starting to grind out these wins in these immigration cases, namely, like the temporary protected status cases and where, you know, these district judges have thrown a wrench in the System, a big 5th Circuit win that's going to allow us to detain illegal immigrants without Bond. So, you know, and she's done a ton on crime and disorder, so I think she did a good job. I think she was just not, you know, my basic assessment of Bondi is she was. She was running the department while she was not doing a great job on the comm side. I think that, you know, you go back to the Epstein thing and the files there I didn't think she handled that particularly well. And I, I don't think she was great in front of Congress, but I'm not, you know, I don't, I don't think she did a bad job. I think she was very loyal to the President. And I think they're, you know, when you look at the President's statement today, you see that she was, he was very fond of Pam Bondi, even if he decided he wanted to make a change.

[Jack Posobiec]

You know, I think that's right. And so when you look at this and it's, you know, it's interesting for us that we, we just did a sit down, long sit down with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch just a couple of days ago and I ran him through, peppered him with all sorts of questions about Epstein, about these antifa tiger teams that they've now set up between the FBI and the irs, looking at the left wing money flows, the organizational side of the militant left, even asked him questions about the Tyler Robinson case. Obviously he wasn't able to divulge too much because that is still a criminal case that's going to trial. And as a former prosecutor, he even said that that's not something that he wanted to get into. But you know, just say what, what's your view of Todd Blanche, of his reputation and how do you think that he'll be running the department, at least in terms of the interim here?

[Will Chamberlain]

I mean, Todd Blanche is a really, really good lawyer and a really, really good deputy Attorney General. And so now as interim Attorney General, I mean, the thing people need to understand too that the Deputy Attorney General runs most of the day to day of the department already. And so he's in a position where he knows all the serious, he's on top of all the serious matters. I don't think it'll be, it'll be a very seamless transition if he's remaining in as interim while whoever the President chooses ends up getting confirmed. So I think that makes me very optimistic. I think we're going to keep making progress on all the fronts that the DOJ has been making progress on. And I'm looking forward to what he and the new AG are able to do in the future.

[Jack Posobiec]

You know, he seemed absolutely on top of things when we sat down with him last week. He, he did quite a bit. He's also, by the way, the one who, you know, just on Epstein, Todd Blanche is the one who actually went and sat down with Ghislaine Maxwell and then released a full transcript of all of the information that came out of there. And he's done extensive interviews since then, going through question and question and question about this. And. And I think that while some, myself included, as everyone remembers, were, you know, were frustrated at what seemed was the lack of transparency in terms of the communications early on, Todd Blanche, not only did he conduct all that, even when he came here on Human Events Daily, he acknowledged the communications issues that the department had gone through and said we should have done a better job. And I think the fact that he's been going around and doing this media tour that we were certainly a part of is a big part of that as well. Being willing to say, hey, there are questions, we get it. This was a crazy case. Let's actually sit down and hash out the questions instead of sort of putting up this wall, which is of course, from a communications perspective, never really the best way to go about things.

[Will Chamberlain]

Yeah, I think that's right. And I mean, people need to understand Top Blanche has released millions of files. The amount of legal time and effort that went into complying with the Massie Khana legislation that forced the disclosure of all these files. Top Blanche was in charge of that and made it happen. I mean, there's a huge repository of files that we now have access to. And people also need to understand that, you know, they complained about the redactions, but the redactions were required by the Mass Econo legislation they made. And that resulted in a huge number of legal man hours that had to be put in to review all these documents. You know, speaking as a lawyer who's done document review, when I looked at that legislation and understood what that entailed, I was like, man, they're going to be, you know, hundreds of lawyers all over the country doing doc review for. For weeks on, just on this case. And my understanding was that if you were not in trial in New York, you were working on the Epstein matter, doing all this document disclosure. So Top Blanche was very good on that. And he also managed to, while doing all that additional work that was foisted upon him, keep all the other balls rolling that DOJ has rolling. So I think, I think he's really competent. I'm really impressed. Impressed. Todd Blanche. And I hope he remains, even after he's no longer interim and we get a new ag I think, I hope he remains as the deputy.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Well, you had mentioned, you know, Pam Bodies kind of performance when she was, you know, in Congress and speaking to these members. Can you kind of take us through that a little bit? What do you think could have been done better that, you know, Todd Blanche could maybe step in and take, you know, if that makes sense.

[Will Chamberlain]

Well, I don't know that Todd Blanche will have that sort of role in terms, usually it's the AG that goes in front of Congress. So I think, you know, I think, I don't think top Blanche will be in the position long enough to like schedule congressional hearings. I expect that it'll be the next Agee who appears in front of Congress. I think, I think Pam Bondi was just a little bit, honestly just a little bit stilted in front of Congress. Was not the most quick on her feet in terms of answering questions. She still was very tough and I really admire that about her, how she really didn't take anything from some of these people. But I think, I think there are, there are better, there will be better advocates, public advocates for what the administration is doing. I think that, that, that is a big thing. And also I think someone, I think Pam Body was also not the most sophisticated social media user understanding of, didn't have a great understanding of the way new media worked. And as a result some of the communications from her department under her leadership felt a little stilted. I think that a new AG who's a little more savvy because you know, remember Pam Bondi wasn't in office for quite a long time and Lee Zeldin was a representative very recently. If he's the guy who's chosen, there's a lot of, I've hear a lot of good names floated. My old boss Ron Desantis I think would be an excellent Attorney General, for example. So a lot of good names floated and I think they'll do a better job of handling that public facing role that the AG is really, really key for.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, I couldn't agree more. Well, that being said, when you have the AG turnover like this, does it have a strong effect, would you say, on specific cases that may be ongoing?

[Will Chamberlain]

Not unless you get rid of the whole top floor. Right. Like if you, if suddenly Blanche was gone and Stan Woodward, who's I believe is number three at DOJ was gone, that actually could cause real problems because then you have, you have to get a whole new set of people up to speed on all the important matters. But as long as Todd, I mean Todd Blanche actually has more people reporting to him on a day to day basis than Pam Bondi does. That's the way the department is structured. So as long as you keep Todd around, you're going to have the continuity. And I don't expect any hiccups?

[Jack Posobiec]

No, I think that's exactly right. Well, are you with us for another segment? We can hold you over.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Sure.

[Jack Posobiec]

Okay, great. Yeah, we'll hold. We'll hold you over because there's so much going on. I definitely want to get into that. Maybe pick your brain a little bit on where we stand in the Supreme Court with this Jack Posobic, Benny Ray Harmony sitting shotgun today, my co pilot here on Humid Events daily in Washington D.C.

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[Rich Barris]

These are influencers and they're friends of mine, Jack Posobic.

[Jack Posobiec]

Where's Jack? Jack. He's got a great job. All right, folks, we're back. Jack Posobic here live Human events daily, Washington D.C. we're here with Benny Ray Harmony. She is the co pilot and co host of Human Rights. I should also tell you, by the way, thank you for filling in you and Bo Davidson while I was away for Tiny Tay's birthday. Really appreciate it. You guys crushed it. That some fun episodes. Good news. You guys did great.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Thank you. We were happy to do it. It was great. And Beau's just fantastic. He's. He can roll with it and you have. You kind of fly by the wind, you know what I mean? And so that's what me and Beau kind of did. And we did.

[Jack Posobiec]

It was awesome to see. So I want to get Will Chamberlain. So Will. We, of course were covering the Supreme Court case yesterday. We had your colleague Mike Davis on the program. He and I think a lot of people said that that doesn't look as if the Supreme Court is going to rule for the administration on this question of birthright citizenship. And so we got into an interesting discussion of what could be done in response then. What other alternatives for belief would there be? And I suggest I'll throw it right out there. What if we just ran a massive campaign? What if we turn the entire 2026 midterm elections into go with me on this illegal immigration amendment to the Constitution? Couldn't we do that? Why can't we do that?

[Will Chamberlain]

We could. I mean, we're never going to have sufficient votes to actually get those things enacted, but I mean, running on them is not a bad idea at all. I also, I mean, I do want to say I'm, you know, and I can, I'm allowed to disagree with my boss. Right. I actually am a little more optimistic. Not necessarily that I think it's more likely than not that we'll prevail, but I think, I think Mike is a little more black pilled than I am on the oral argument. Having listened to the way that they went after the ACLU attorney, I thought that they were. A lot of the justices were asking the right questions. Specifically, Gorsuch, Alito, Kavanaugh were all asking really good questions. So I'm not sure that won't. I think it could be a 5, 4. I think we might actually swing it. But, you know, assuming we don't, assuming, assuming my boss is correct on this question, you know, that's one thing we can do. I think we can push for legal immigration amendments.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, let me also just throw out there as well that perhaps rather than a sweeping opposition, there are also times when the court puts out, you know, things that are sort of in part. So, you know, they could sort of put out a narrow. They could narrow the scope of birthright citizenship. So not do away with it completely, but perhaps make it so that there are some stricter guidelines that need to be followed, that sort of thing.

[Will Chamberlain]

Yes, and it's curious, you know, one of the big questions is like, what does the first phrase subject to the jurisdiction mean? And the ACLU's contention is that it means a limited closed set of three exceptions that were extant at the time of the enactment of the 14th Amendment. And I think, you know, Kavanaugh had this really interesting point about how, you know, if that was the case, why didn't they just list those exceptions rather than coming up with this sort of general phrase that could apply to other people as well? So I think you could easily see a world where, you know, temporary sojourners who were discussed at the time the amendment, they were much rarer, but they were discussed children of temporary sojourners. Nobody would have thought they would have gotten citizenship. And so they might try and craft a rule that allows the administration to ban birth tourism, for example. You know, even if they don't, even if they say, like, you know, the children of legal aliens who've been here for 20 years, those people need to be granted citizenship. But maybe the children of the Chinese people who show up in the Northern Mariana Islands and randomly give birth and then head home, those kids don't get citizenship. That could be some sort of splitting the baby rule. Not, not the obvious. There's not an obvious principle.

[Jack Posobiec]

By the way. By the way, Will. Will literally splitting the baby in this case?

[Will Chamberlain]

Yes, splitting the babies. Citizenship and not citizenship.

[Jack Posobiec]

Indeed.

[Will Chamberlain]

Not the individual. Not the individual babies, but, you know, of course, category of babies.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, of course, I. Speaking of which, though, I had to throw out this on. On Twitter last night. Isn't it interesting that when you speak to the liberal judges and Ketanji Brown Jackson, that all of a sudden when you're not talking about abortion, suddenly the pregnant women and their children get referred to as citizens or pre. Citizens with full rights. And here she is upholding the rights of these unborn children when they happen to be the Children of immigrants and foreigners and temporary sojourners and all these things. But when you switch to abortion, oh, suddenly, suddenly it's another question altogether.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

It's insane.

[Will Chamberlain]

Yeah, it's really interesting how they can say, you know, I mean, you see this all the time. Liberal judges suddenly becoming these like unbelievably narrow minded originalists when they think they have the text on their side. It's remarkable about how that works.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's like magic. But. Well, so the Constitution amendment that's there and by the way, I do think that that would be popular. I do think it would. But there are also a number of procedural questions and procedural items that could be done here. Possibly not even just the federal level, but even on the state level. When you're talking about the birth certificates that the state health departments are issuing, they could simply write non citizen on them and simply label them as non citizen, which I believe the attorney general of Oklahoma has talked about. Visas are another way. What are some of the other options that the administration could look at?

[Will Chamberlain]

I don't know that those would work. If we straight up lost this birthright citizenship, people need to understand that it's a bad outcome if we lose it fully because it means that birthright citizenship becomes constitutionalized at the federal level, which means the states can't do things that contradict it. So I don't know that that would survive. What I think we can do though is the federal government has enormous authority when it comes to letting people in and out of the country. And so there could be a major crackdown on tourist visa, visa issuances from China, other sorts of visa issuances from China in order to stop birthright citizenship. I don't know, maybe you could also put into place rules that say, you know, from certain nations you cannot be pregnant when you show up. And like that would be a very interesting one because it would mean that, you know, if you're visibly pregnant, you're, you know, you're not allowed to get a tourist visa. You just get turned away.

[Jack Posobiec]

Benny. Benny, you make only be accepted on a permit. Benny. Benny's making a face. Benny, what's the phase?

[Benny Ray Harmony]

I, you know.

[Jack Posobiec]

Benny, are you breaking news on the show here?

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Listen, I am all. Jack, stop. I am all for it. I just wonder how the Democrats and how the liberals would twist that and make it discrimination on pregnant people at that point and then contradict themselves again when they don't really care about pregnant people to begin with.

[Jack Posobiec]

But wait, wait, wait. Of course it's discrimination. That's the role of the visa process. That's what a border is. A border is inherently discriminatory.

[Will Chamberlain]

The entire immigration law is built on discriminating between immigrants of various Every immigration

[Jack Posobiec]

law, every immigration law and every rule is discrimination. That's the point.

[Will Chamberlain]

Yes.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Yeah. Okay. You know, this is. There's a lot going on right now, Jack.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, we love, we love when Benny Ray on it's. It's absolutely the best. Well, where can people go to follow you to get your discriminatory legal analysis?

[Will Chamberlain]

Yes, for for further discrimination, please go to Will Chamberlain on X as well as the A3P action.com where we advocate for various types of discrimination. You know, Mike wouldn't like that. Although, you know, who knows.

[Jack Posobiec]

That being said, Mike Davis, you'll never find a more discriminating lawyer in all of Washington, D.C. jack Paso Look, Betty Ray Harmony More discrimination ahead here on Human Events Daily.

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[Rich Barris]

Thank you.

[Jack Posobiec]

What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news in the back, but we have guys

[Rich Barris]

and these are the guys who'd be getting policies.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right, folks are back. Jack wasobec, Benny Ray, Harmony here, Human Events Daily, your headquarters for legal discrimination. You know, I was favorite, you know, we are your discrimination station, your discrimination destination here in Washington, your destination. We've got Rich Barris coming on the People's Pundit. Rich is like, what are they talking about?

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Rich, welcome to the discrimination show.

[Rich Barris]

That's great to be here, as always.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, Rich, because we were talking, we were talking about immigration and the immigration ruling. And I said, well, what if we, and Will Chamberlain, he said, what if we just ban pregnant women from entering? And Betty Ray is like, well, aren't the Democrats going to call that discrimination? I'm like, of course it's discrimination. What is it exactly? That's exactly my point. But Rich, so I wanted to get you on because, you know, we're obviously a lot is going on, but the breaking news of the day has been the story about AG Bondi just a couple of blocks away from where we're sitting here in Washington, D.C. we've seen the politics of this. We've seen, of course, you know, the ups and downs of her tenure at the Department of Justice. Wanted to get your take on it because we're seeing, you know, that it's, it's sort of the one year itch that I think is coming up with cabinet officials. You know, it's like a year and change since the cabinet's been in and the confirmation process. It really is the one year mark. Do you think that's what this is, or do you think there's something more political going on here? Throw it to you, Rich. Rich barris. Well, look, I've got to pull no

[Rich Barris]

punches when it comes to the attorney general as a public Opinion pollster. It's a little hard to point to a single cabinet member who may have hurt the President more than Pam Bondi. Nobody, you know, nobody is the face of the Epstein file situation more than her. We've pulled this, Jack. You've seen it. She's the most unpopular cabinet member in the administration. This is a better late than never. I would have liked to see this earlier. As far as just, you know, the political side of this, you know, what the President, you know, needs to do in order to clean the slate. Jack, you know, it is that one year more mark, right. And we're going to see a lot more probably after the midterms, but that's, that's normal. But Pam Bondi is again, you know, not just with, you know, Democrats and independents. There are even a lot of Republicans who were pretty much done with Pam Bondi at this point. This is good. This long time coming, honestly.

[Jack Posobiec]

So you think this is something. Now, that being said, though, you know, we've seen a lot from the President. We saw this, this speech last night. This really was. And by the way, Rich, this is something that, you know, the President, when he goes big, he wants to go big. So you saw this big speech, this big moment that he gave last night. Now we're seeing. Do you think that perhaps he's trying to sort of show some big moves from the White House that are really going to grab, you know, grab people's attention and perhaps, you know, just perhaps he's trying to shift some of the narrative regarding the administration that of course, we've seen in the media over polling numbers. You know, Harry Anton talking about Death Valley yesterday, these types of things is. Do you think he's trying to shake some of that off?

[Rich Barris]

What happened to the 100%, Harry? What happened to that? That was quick, right. Three days went from 100% historic support to. To Death Valley and the end of days.

[Martha Stewart]

Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

What do you, what do you really think of Harriet? And don't, don't, don't hold back.

[Rich Barris]

Come on. You know, I mean, it's just anyone from our neck of the woods knows a snake oil salesman when you see one. I don't know if I've ever seen one in this business where I am like Harry Enton before. He's like the guy in the corner selling the CDs we talked about.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right.

[Rich Barris]

But basically, yeah, I mean, look, I do think the President's a showman. He knows what time it is. I think he has been feeling this for a while, I may say, you know, Some, some things he's got. Look, politicians have to say something in public and, and, you know, do some, make moves in the background. That's just the way it is. Right. But I think the president, and I've said this for a while, even though I have been very critical and I've been not optimistic going into November. If anyone can do this, Jack, it's him. And he knows exactly what to do in order to shift. It's not like he doesn't in order to make that shift, which needs to be a big shift. I just would caution, though, and say, I just hope we don't throw the baby out with the bath water, you know, make some changes, do what you got to do. But, you know, there's. Obviously, we're hearing other rumors. You know, let's just, let's just hope we get this one today and we'll see how it goes in the future. But this is a big step because Pam Bondi is the face of his first real. The real sign of trouble, Jack, and his approval rating. And in the coalition, Pam Bondi's the face of it. So, you know, for anyone who wants to see or has been wanting to see what you're talking about, this is a good day.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well done. And we have seen, we have seen turnover as well. We've seen Kristi Noem, you know, she's, she's gone out. Dan Bongino, by the way, who, you know, wasn't a cabinet member, but also extremely, extremely high profile, certainly again with the base. And so, Rich, let me ask you this. Do you think, in terms of calibration, if, assuming this is political, for sake of argument, do you think this is calibrated as for the base or perhaps more for that broader coalition of voters that seem to have drifted away since 2024?

[Rich Barris]

Yeah, I think that's why this is so smart, because it is broad. When you look at the polling that we did, you know, at the end of the day, Donald Trump is beloved by the base, Jack. You know, I mean, they give him so much benefit of the doubt.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right.

[Rich Barris]

This has to go toward the people who were new to the coalition and, you know, loosely aligned. I wouldn't even say, you know, they were dating with the Republican Party. They were flirting. Right. You didn't even get to take them out to dinner yet. They came over in 24 and they were flirting with the idea. And Pam Bondi is again, central to the, to, to their souring somewhat. So I do think it's to them which is smart. Right. The base is Going to go along with whatever. Because the basis is different, folks in that, like when you hear arguments, no matter what, Democrats are worse. So we have to vote.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right.

[Rich Barris]

That, that's a base argument. But for this move and for people are out there and that argument's not good enough for them. That's for them. And by the way, I hate to say this, but some voters are more important than others. Right. Some voters are always going to show up, others not so much. And that's. This is for them and that's why

[Benny Ray Harmony]

it's good and rich. I don't know if you, I don't know if Jack kind of already asked this question, but with your research that you do and kind of just with how much you're watching, we know some of these main issues going into the midterms that are going to be huge for voters. But, you know, after we heard Trump's speech last night, what do you think people really care about the most right now? That is going to, going to be the difference maker, if you, if you have any.

[Rich Barris]

Yeah. That's why I do like to see him make big moves and pivot because you can go out there and say, we achieved our objectives and we won, even take the W and go home, but it doesn't help people pay their grocery bill. It doesn't help people pay their mortgage. So I do want to see the president shift into something else and start, you know, the news, the headlines, they're constantly dominated by foreign policy. Foreign policy is number seven on a ranked distribution for most important issues. It's gone. It's like nowhere near the top.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

That's important. Yeah, that's important to know right there that people. That's not their top.

[Jack Posobiec]

So it's rich. Are you trying to say it's the economy? Stupid deal. You know, the old, you know, the old. Give us, you know, the old, the old, the old Clinton. Right. James Carville. Right. The old, the old phrase, like it just comes down to the money. It's all about the money.

[Rich Barris]

Look, it's important to note to who votes in midterms.

[Martha Stewart]

Right.

[Rich Barris]

Of course, it tends to be, be more older and more educated. And I hate to say this, but they were right. The USA Today had a piece recently, a couple of weeks ago, and it was actually the female voter over 50 who was really swingy and on the edge. It was the economy for them. So, you know, pivoting to the economy. And guys, I just stress this. It doesn't even have to be accomplishments. You just have to be seen optically as fighting for what people want more so than the other side. There are things Republicans can do even if they fail, if they get Democrats to oppose it, it can help their argument with those voters. Those voters will vote regardless, Jack. And if they feel like the Republican Party hasn't even tried to address those concerns, it's going to be a problem. Now, there are some other sides of this, you know, with the, the low propensity part of the coalition that you and I have talked about. That's why I do like this move with Bondi, because accountability is important to them. That's actually number four. Four, number one, just so everybody understands the economy and jobs. Number or I'm sorry, that's number two. Inflation is number one. Economy and jobs, health care, then it's accountability. Number five is immigration. So this is, this is a way, I think the president in the last, you know, 2448 hours has begun to show like some signs that I want to move on. I want to do some other things here. And that's good. Well, Supreme Court taking up birthright citizens

[Jack Posobiec]

and Rich, I want to make sure before, before we bounce that we do talk about the fact that you have a new book that is racing up the charts on Amazon with Joshua Isaac, our good friend.

[Rich Barris]

Burn It Down. That's the, that's the answer for Donald Trump. Just Burn it down. And yeah, thanks for, for, you know, bringing that up, Jack. I mean, honestly, this will be released right before the midterms. It's a crucial argument about hoping that to get people to understand the boomers will fall out of this electorate very, very soon. What did these other voters want? How did Donald Trump attract these younger voters in the 2024 election? And what happens if we don't give them what they want? All right. And the alternative is bleak. I mean there's really two, two roads we can go down in this country, Jack. We have to pick the right one. The other one leads to Mamdani.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, that's exactly. It's MAGA or Mamdani. A lot of us have been saying this. You've got to focus on the disparities in this country. You have to focus on the economics. And one of those is going to burn it down, Rich.

[Rich Barris]

Burn it down.

[Jack Posobiec]

Thank you so much, Rich. The people's punding it for joining us here on Human Events Daily. Foreign.

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[Rich Barris]

When I was diagnosed, all I wanted

[Jack Posobiec]

to do was get back to work.

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I wanted to get back to that

[Jack Posobiec]

trajectory that I was on prior to the cancer. I always felt like I had value.

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I had a place on the team

[Jack Posobiec]

to just be treated with dignity.

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[Jack Posobiec]

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[Jack Posobiec]

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[Jack Posobiec]

I am actually really excited for that. The Museum of the Bible is one of my favorite museums here in Washington. Probably actually my favorite these days, if I had to say. Ben, have you been in the Museum of the Bible yet?

[Benny Ray Harmony]

I have, yeah. It's Me and my mom went. It's amazing.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's so good. It's so good.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

I got one of the pictures of. Is it George Washington where he's praying at Valley. Is it Valley Forge?

[Jack Posobiec]

Of course.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Oh, my gosh. And I have it framed in my house.

[Jack Posobiec]

We have that. Well, that's. Tanya and I got married in Valley Forge, so that's. You did? Yeah. Yeah. So that's. For us. Got engaged there, too, actually. And so that's always been just that and Washington and so much. Very personal. I grew up, like, you know, going there all the time to Valley Forge, like, every weekend with my family, flying kites, whatever, sledding in the winter. And that's always been so close. But what I love about the Museum of the Bible, there's so much stuff for families that if you have kids, you can. There's. There's tons of interactive stuff for kids. There's like a playground area, but it's all. It's all like, you know, obviously biblical, but then even for, like, the Bible nerds like me, if you go to that top floor and. And even like Tanya, because she does the languages. I love the section on the translations and the. All the different translations of it and all the partial.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

I think that was pieces of the

[Jack Posobiec]

Bible that have been found over the years. It. It just. It gives you.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

That was.

[Jack Posobiec]

It gives you goosebumps. It really does.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

That was probably my favorite seeing, you know, the. Just the depth of how far it goes because we just look at it. You know, it's English. You know, it's our Bible. It's this.

[Jack Posobiec]

Pull it off a shelf and.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

But when you look at it from that view, it's like, whoa.

[Jack Posobiec]

You just see it and you realize how much. And I see that as the Dead Sea Scrolls exhibit, which I think is phenomenal, that what's so cool about that? We're to tie the Dead Sea Scrolls in. And here we are. It is Holy Thursday. We're going into Holy Week. The Holy Week has begun. We're in the Passion cycle. And so it's all connected. So today is the day of the Last Supper. Christ gives us the New Covenant. He gives us the Eucharist. Then you have Good Friday, of course, where he dies, Holy Saturday, where he descends to the dead. And then, of course, Easter Sunday. So, you know, you have the whole thing, and it begins on Holy Thursday. But when you look at the Dead Sea Scrolls, what was amazing about it, because. Because they had been. You talk about the translation, they had been under seal from the time of Christ until now. And yet we have all these translations over the years. And of course, there's that question, right? Did people go in and edit things? Did people add words? Did they add sections? Did they change things up a little bit to meet the politics? And to be sure, there are translations that do play a little fast and loose, but not to get into all that, but what's amazing was when they pulled those pots out of Qumran in that cave for the Dead Sea Scrolls, they were able to take that and then put it up to the Bible of today. It was mostly Old Testament. And they were able to find that the translations were almost verbatim, Almost verbatim perfect. And so now you have a check that that means that. So throughout those years, when people were translating it, they were doing so faithfully. And when they were copying it down,

[Benny Ray Harmony]

we get a little of that in.

[Jack Posobiec]

In today's world, we could use some. Well, you know, and of course, when you look at Holy Thursday, you look at Christ's sacrifice, for us, this is

[Benny Ray Harmony]

the Holy Thursday day is. That's, you know, it just. It puts everything into perspective, the meaning.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, I think it does. And you look at. You look at how that day runs. So Christ gives us. You know, he sort of. He establishes the communion in the new covenant, the body and the blood. And because he knows this is going to be my last time that I'm with all of you before I have to go through what I have to go through. He then goes to the Garden of Gethsemane. You have the mystery of the agony in the garden where he's up there. Father, take this cup from me. And of Course, that's when Judas comes in and betrays him. There's so. But that's when Peter. Peter denies him the three times he goes on trial. It's all there.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

One of the things, and I was thinking about this this morning before the show is like, in this world that we're in right now, you think, you know, oh, if someone's hateful towards me, it makes you want to be hateful back to them. Someone betrays you. What do kids in my generation want to do? They want a revenge. Vengeful. They want to go right back at them as hard as they came at them. And then you look at that story and you're like, no, you know, Jesus was literally betrayed by one of his disciples, by someone that was in his inner circle. And what did he say? Still do. He still washed his feet. He still. He knew it was coming. And what did he do? He didn't change anything. He didn't. It's just. It's so powerful. And I think in the modern world, we have to hold on to that. The humility, the service. I think we've lost track.

[Jack Posobiec]

And then. And then when Christ is on the cross itself, he's. He's up there. He's in the process of being crucified, a process that is so heinous and so painful and so horrific that we actually had to come up in Latin. They had to come up with a new. A new word for it, excrucius, or excruciating. So the word excruciating, the root of that is the same word as to crucify, because it is so painful, they had to come up with a new word for it. And as he's going through that, he says, father, forgive them. They know not what they do. So he forgives the soldiers, he forgives the people who have done the crucifixion. And to your point, right, we're in this society today where, you know, it's, oh, somebody came at me. I got to come back 10 times. I mean, I certainly, you know, someone who's done that as well. And you do. You do have to stand up for yourself in righteousness. Righteousness at the time. But, yes, it is very human for us to fall into those patterns.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Yeah, no, it's. It's just. And I think it's really not to. You know, I know we're going to. We're going to talk about here in a little bit about, you know, the event tonight, the Turning Point event here here in D.C. but it goes back to that division and community and just bringing those like minded people together and speaking your faith and doing all the things and that's what today is all about. It's about just showing how you should carry out your life and how you should continue to operate regardless of what the world says.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, so, and for folks who, you know, who don't know that we are going to be, we've been talking about it all week, but it's tonight, George Washington, Washington University, right here in Washington D.C. it's going to be myself, it's going to be Erica Kirk. It's also going to be White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt. Turning Point usa. This is the Turning Point tour over at gwu. The campus is all set. We're going to be heading over after this and Real America's Voice is going to be covering that live. So I know that you are going to be part of the pre show. Tell us what you're doing.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

I am, yeah. So I'm really, really excited about this because I, I'm going to get to talk to the students and talk to the members of the GW of, you know, the Turning Point chapter and stuff. And I'm really excited to hear from these students about what Charlie has meant to them and give them the motivation, hear from them, you know, the inspiration they have to continue this mission. And you know, the same way Charlie poured into me and poured into so many others, I think it'll be incredible to hear some of those stories. But because that, that, that's what it's about and, and making them feel like they are heard, that we will give them airtime and we support them and so it's going to be really cool. I, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like in the, in the lobby area doing all that. So it's going to be really fun. Jack, but you have a big part tonight. Tell us a little bit about that.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, yes, I'm sort of kicking things off and I'll. So the way I think the way it works is that they're, they'll have the national anthem. Of course we're going to do that. And then I'm going to come out, I'm going to speak, then we're going to have the chapter president speak and then Caroline and Erica are going to do sort of a sit down fireside chat. So you know, I'm going to come out and I got to tell you, people want me to get in on politics and this division, that division. But I got to tell you that all I can think about is the fact that it's Holy Thursday.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Don't.

[Jack Posobiec]

And that's where my head's at. And I think that that's what, where, that's where I'm going to end up being tonight. And to say that, you know, this isn't it's, it's not about politicians and it's not about elections and it's not about those things. It's about, are we bringing people to the cross? Benny, Ray, Harmony.

[Benny Ray Harmony]

Amen.

[Jack Posobiec]

Amen. Thanks for being here with us. Human Events Daily. And to all of you, we'll catch you later here live on Real America's Voice for this is the turn turning point this evening. We'll see you very soon. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have our permission to lay ashore.

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[Jack Posobiec]

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