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Donald Trump
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Jack Posobiec
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Donald Trump
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Jack Posobiec
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Donald Trump
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Jack Posobiec
Mark Meredith, FOX News.
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Donald Trump
I know that. Go ahead.
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Jack Posobiec
America's watching. No. Can we go back to the weekend? First off, was everyone on board with
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Donald Trump
the operation or were there people that
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Jack Posobiec
were trying to talk you out of going through with the operation this weekend?
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Donald Trump
Not everybody was on board. Somebody else within? No, there was military people, very professional that preferred not doing it. These two were totally on board, which was very important. They weren't. I would have a little difficulty. But no, there were military people that said, you just don't do this. You don't go into the heart of a very powerful military. You know, this is, hey, you have countries and countries, you have some countries where military is not their strong suit. This whole thing is militarized like nobody's ever seen before. Half the people are wearing uniforms. And we had people within the military. Usually it's not done. That's one of the reasons, you know, I was surprised somebody said it's the only time it's ever been done. I said, that's not possible. But it is possible because you're going into hundreds of thousands of soldiers along the path. I mean, look at some of the helicopters, how they got hit. So, yeah, there were people within the military that said it's a wise. And don't forget, how many men did you send altogether, approximately for the operation? I'd love to keep that a secret. Okay, well, we are. But I will tell you the number. I'll keep it a secret. But it was hundreds and hundreds of these people. Pretty good. Is he central? Is he central casting? But hundreds of people went into this journey. Hundreds of people could have been killed. Forget about the equipment. A lot of equipment. Nobody cares. Hundreds of people could have been killed. So we had people that were within the military that said this is not a wise. And I understood that but I decided to do it.
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Jack Posobiec
Was there a point that they were going to push that you were thinking there's too much on the line and somebody was saying maybe we abort this now and wait. I mean given the resource, like the general said, it seemed like there was so much on the line here.
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Donald Trump
You must have been thinking, well this
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Jack Posobiec
could have completely changed.
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Donald Trump
So the first one, which was in many ways as dangerous as the second, I guess it gets because we're flying over daylight. You know, we're the best at the world. At night we have goggles that nobody. We have goggles, I've tried them in unbelievable. I see better with the goggles at night than I see without them during daylight. I mean daylight today we have a beautiful day. You see just as well with goggles, in many ways it's enhanced so we have the best in the world. So it's much safer for us to do it at night. Whereas other people, no other country has that capability. They don't have the, they don't have that particular piece of equipment like we do. But when I was told flying and in daylight, I think we flew seven hours over Iran and that's a long time over unbelievably hostile territory where they have nothing but weapons. We took out their anti aircraft which is great. We took out their radar, which is great. We took out a lot. But they still have, you know what hit this one was a shoulder handheld, shoulder missile, heat seeking missile. So it's not like, you know they're totally whatever but, but, and they had probably a little luck because you got to get lucky but they shot it and it got sucked in right by the engine. But these guys were out of there. They were great, their timing was great. But no, I was told that this is a very dangerous mission. I understand. They didn't say it's a foolish mission. They said, you know, we're going to be sacrificing hundreds of people do this. This is, I mean you have tankers that are flying over this area so that they could. The flight was so long they had to refuel. It's a very dangerous mission. I just felt it was worth it. If you would have told me that we would have been successful, gotten both and nobody was even essentially injured. I would have said that would be impossible. Yeah. Mr. President, thank you very much. Thank you sir. I'll come back to you.
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
Okay, thank you. Given that you are now dealing, you say with a more reasonable, less extreme leadership in Iran what does that mean for the protesters, for the human rights movement in that country after this conflict? What's your.
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Donald Trump
Yeah, if they assume control, if we do something and they assume control, I think it's very positive, a big step. I don't think you'd see the radicalization that you have seen in the last. Look what happened. I mean, women are being executed because they're not properly clothed. They say they're not properly clothed and they execute the women. They absolutely. They shoot them right on the street. No, you have a much different group of people now. I'm not saying we are dealing with them. Essentially they have till 8 o' clock tomorrow night, Eastern time, but we are dealing with them. I think it's going well. Mr. Witkoff is here and JD is involved in the dealing. Mr. Witkoff is sitting right here and I think it's going fine, but we'll have to see. You have to understand we've been dealing with these people for 47 years. I'm standing here with a much more powerful Iran as of a month ago, not anymore. Right now they are decapitated. But I'm standing here a month ago with a much more powerful Iran than it was at any point during 47 years. This should have been handled by seven presidents, a lot of presidents. And those presidents are saying now, every one of them to their friends, we should have done this a long time ago. So it's not something I like doing. It's very dangerous. And we're getting them at the height of their strength. If I didn't terminate the Barack Hussein Obama Iran nuclear deal, they would have had a. Don't forget, that was a path to a nuclear weapon. Remember this? He chose Iran over Israel, pure and simple. How and how Israel can vote for a Democrat is if you're Jewish in New York City or anyplace else in this country. And how you can vote for a Democrat is in believable because he chose Iran, a very hostile Iran. Remember when he filled up a 757 with cash, billions of dollars of cash, and he sent it over to them. Then they gave them tens of billions of dollars. He chose Iran over Israel and really the Arab world, if you look, because you know, and I can add Bahrain and you can add others, he chose such an unlikely candidate. Nobody could believe it, frankly. If you're going to choose between Iraq and Iran, he should have chosen, he should have befriended Iraq. He went in the exact opposite direction of, of all thinking and he made a terrible mistake. But that was a road to a nuclear weapon. And when I terminated that, everyone said, oh, he terminated it. It was one of the best things we ever did because he had a road to a nuclear weapon and it was going to, it was a very short term deal. You know, countries don't do 10 year deals. Countries do hundreds of years. You don't do a 10 year deal for a country. You need. This isn't. You're a landlord, you're renting a store on, on a certain street and you give somebody a five year or ten year lease. This is a country. It was a short term deal, it was ready to expire. I terminated it before it expired, took a lot of heat and it was one of the best things I ever did. Because he would have had a nuclear weapon then, he would have had another nuclear weapon, had those beautiful B2 bombers not gone in eight months ago and obliterated. That said, and by the way, the word is obliteration. CNN said, well, maybe it wasn't complete. It was so complete that they still haven't been able to get it. It was obliteration. But if we didn't hit them, that was a courageous decision too because we had all those planes flying in at night with very little cover, unbelievable stealth planes. And they were able to do their job. If we didn't do that, Iran would have had a nuclear weapon at a high level either one of those two instances. And if they did, in my opinion, I told this to Bibi Netanyahu yesterday, Israel would have been extinguished. Large portions of the Middle east would have been extinguished, whether it's Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE or others. And you saw that with thousands of missiles raining down upon them, they didn't think they were going to be hit. They thought they'd be watching us fight. And all of a sudden UAE got hit by 1500 missiles. He would have taken them out also. And they were powerful. If I didn't come along and terminate the Obama deal, which was terrible, the Iran nuclear deal was a road to a nuclear weapon, a big one, unlimited, legally. I terminated it without even much thought. It was so easy. I terminated that and then the B2 bombers. And I did one other thing. I had killed Qassam Soleimani, who was an evil genius. And the reason I did it, I heard he was going to knock out 5 of our military bases. And had he lived, I believe we would be fighting perhaps a different Iran right now. Because, because he's never, he's never been replaced, you know, and I also, I did one other, but this one was not picked up Osama Bin Laden, if you read my book, I said you got to take him out one year before the World Trade center came down. So I wish you'd read the book. But you as a president, to be a good president, I believe you have to have good instincts. And a lot of this is instinct. Yeah. Please, Mr. President. Thank you. Mr. President. You quote, Mr. President.
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Jack Posobiec
Mr. Last week, last week you suggested
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Donald Trump
that Europe should take the lead on reopening the Strait of Hormuz. Has circumstances changed now that you're issuing a direct 48 hour, I mean 48 hour ultimatum. And secondly, would a new, new cease fire include Israel or would it just be between Iran? We can't talk about ceasefire, but I can tell you that we have a active, willing participant on the other side. They would like to be able to make a deal. I can't say any more than that summit.
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Donald Trump
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
You've listened.
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Donald Trump
Who you with? Who you with? My name is Dia Kurdam with the largest Kurdish media outlet through the media network. It's based in Iran. Mr. President, you said before that you don't want the Kurdish forces to enter Iran and be harmed. Do you still want them to stay away or what role do you expect them to play now? I'd rather have them stay away. I'd rather have them stay away because. Because I think they bring with them some problems and some difficulties and I don't think they bring death, I mean, you know, to themselves. But I'd rather have them stay. Go ahead.
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Jack Posobiec
Thank you, Mr. President, for the question. Deliberate attacks on civilian infrastructure violate the
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Geneva Conventions and international law.
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Donald Trump
Who are you with? I'm with the New York Times.
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Jack Posobiec
Zolin from the New York Times.
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Donald Trump
Are you failing? The failing. Are you concerned circulation way down at the New York Times.
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Jack Posobiec
Are you concerned that you're threat to bomb power plants and bridges amount to.
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Donald Trump
No, not at all. No. I hope I don't have to do it. But again, I just said 47 years they've been negotiating with these people. They're great negotiators and because they're not going to have a nuclear weapon. And if somebody that takes my place someday is weak and ineffective, which possibly that will happen because we had numerous presidents that were weak, ineffective and afraid. Afraid of Iran. We're never going to let Iran have a nuclear weapon. And if you think it's OK for people that are sick of mind, that are tough, smart and sick, really sick, ideological, you know, from, from a policy standpoint, from a stamp, any which way you want to say mentally, these are disturbed people. If you think I'm going to allow them and powerful and rich to have a nuclear weapon, you can tell your friends at the New York Times, not going to happen. Quite. Quiet, quiet, quiet. You no longer have credibility. The New York Times. Because the New York Times said, oh, Trump won't win the election. And I want in a landslide. I won every swing state. New York Times said, oh, Trump won't win the election. New York Times has no credibility. The credibility they have is it used to be all the news that's fit to print a great. The Old Gray lady, it was great. But they're running on past fumes. And you can't keep doing that. You have to be able to give the correct news. And people like you, who I know are fake, you're fake. Go ahead, please. Your messaging on the war has moved from the war is coming to an end to war going to be bombing Iran to the Stone Ages. And we've heard a range of those kind of messages. So are you. So which is it? Are you winding this down? Are you? I can't tell you. I don't know. I can't. It depends what they do. This is a critical period. They have a period of, well, till tomorrow at 8 o'. Clock. I gave them an extension. They asked for an extension of seven days. Right. I said, Steve, give them 10 days. 10 days is up, actually, today. So I gave him 11. I guess indirectly, I thought it was inappropriate the day after Easter. I want to be a nice person. They have till tomorrow. Now we'll see what happens. I can tell you they're negotiating, we think in good faith. We're going to find out. We're getting the help of some incredible countries that want this to be ended because it affects them also. A lot of people are affected by this. But we're giving them, we're giving them till tomorrow, 8 o' clock Eastern Time. And after that, they're going to have no bridges, they're going to have no power plants. Stone Ages. Yeah, Cnn fake.
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Steve Hilton
Are you willing to make a deal
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Donald Trump
that does not include reopening the Strait of Hormuz, or is that now a top priority? I would say it's a very big priority because, see, that's, that's one thing that's a little different than, other than we can bomb the hell out of them, we can knock them out for a loop. But to close the strait, all you need is one terrorist that somehow has a truck loaded with. Because you can carry them in trucks, large trucks, A water mine, drop them in the water. And now you tell people that own ships that cost a billion dollars to don't worry about the mine. You can do that even just by saying we put mines in the water. So it's not like the rest. We can knock out their military. We already have. We've knocked out their navy, we've knocked out their air force completely. Knocked out 158 ships in three days. We've knocked out even their mind droppers. They don't have any mine droppers anymore, but they put them on other boats and they could drop them. I'm not even sure they have any minds there, by the way. I'm not sure I'm personally. They say there might be eight. I don't know. I don't know. I think there might be none because they're very good bullshit artists. That's why. For 47 years they've been bullshitting other presidents and they haven't done the job. And people are living in hell. You live in that country, they're living in hell. No, I think that 47 years of this stuff is long enough. They're at the weakest point they've ever been. They have no navy, they have no air force, they have no anti aircraft weaponry, they have no radar, they have no communication. In fact, the biggest problem we have in our negotiation is that they can't communicate. I said to Steve, what are they saying, sir? They can't communicate. They have no method of communication. So we're doing, we're communicating like they used to communicate 2,000 years ago with children, bringing a note back and forth. They have no communication. But all I want to see is I want to have a safe world. And you're not going to have a safe world. Israel will be gone, the Middle east will be gone, and then they're coming for Europe. And I have to tell you, I'm very disappointed in NATO. Very. I think that NATO, I think it's a mark on NATO that will never disappear. Never disappear in my mind. You know, they're coming to see me on Wednesday. They're going to say, oh, we'll do this, we'll do that. Now they all of a sudden want to send things, you know, but they said it loud and clear at the beginning when I spoke to uk, of all I would have said they would have been there first because they've been, they're the oldest. And I say, yeah, I'd love to have a little help. Said, no, sir, we'd rather wait till you win. I said, I don't need help. After we win, they have two old broken aircraft carriers, barely work. I said, I guess we can use them. Who the hell knows? I called the general. He didn't even want to. He said, we don't really need them. We got. We got the SS Abraham Lincoln, sir. We don't need them. You know, we have. In terms of technology. We had one day, 101 missiles going at 2,700 miles an hour aimed at the Abraham Lincoln. 101 missiles. Out of 101 missiles, 101 missiles were shot down. Unbelievable technology. Ten years ago, five years ago, I don't know if that would have been possible, but 10 years ago, that wouldn't have been. That wouldn't have been possible. 101 missiles heading to a ship that's not that far off the coast. And out of the 101 missiles, we shot down all 101. We have weaponry. The Patriots are unbelievable. We have weaponry. That's unbelievable.
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Steve Hilton
Yeah.
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Donald Trump
Go ahead, please. Thank you. Mr. President, you said earlier today during the egg roll that you would like
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
to take Iran's oil, but Americans want US Forces home.
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Donald Trump
Correct.
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What's that trade off?
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Donald Trump
If I had my choice. If I had my choice, yeah, Because I'm a businessman first with Venezuela, as you know, the war was over in about 45 minutes. And we have great people running Venezuela. Very good people. I mean, the relationship is good. And we are a partner with Venezuela. And we've taken hundreds of millions of barrels. Hundreds of millions. Over 100 million barrels already is in Houston. Refined and out. And paid for that war many, many times over. Many times, you know, the old days, to the victim, okay, you know that to the. To the winner belong the spoils. Go the spoils. And I've said, why don't we use it? To the victor go the spoils. And we don't have that. We haven't had that in this country probably in 100 years. Because even the Second World War, you look at the Second World War, we didn't have it with the Second World. We helped rebuild all those countries. We rebuilt Germany. How about Germany telling us, Germany telling us that, well, it's not their war. We had nothing to do with getting. They wanted me to go and tell them everything I was doing. We didn't know anything about it. Well, if I would have told them, they would have leaked it, and we wouldn't have been nearly as successful. Possibly. Right. But to the victor belonged the spoils. So we haven't heard. We haven't heard that in I think maybe hundreds of years now with Venezuela. And we just so you understand, the people of Venezuela, they say if I ran for president of Venezuela, I'm polling higher than anybody has ever polled in Venezuela. So after I'm finished with this, I can go to Venezuela. I will quickly learn Spanish. It won't take too long. I'm good at language and I will go to Venezuela. I'm going to run for president. But we're very happy with the president elect that we have right now. The, the, the people that are running it. If you remember Bush with Iraq, they fired the generals, they fired the police, they fired the people that worked in their equivalent of the White House. They fired everybody. And you know what? They had, they had a mess. And you know what happened? ISIS formed those generals and those soldiers got together, the police got together, they all got together. They formed isis. Not going to happen with us. So Venezuela has been an incredible. It's been an incredible situation. We went in, we were very successful. Military power like nobody's ever seen. The general, Venezuelan general said, I was on that site. I said, I've never seen ferocity like that. I've been doing this for 40 years. He said, I've never seen it. They hit us from 17 different. It was, they were all set. They saw that big, beautiful aircraft carrier, the Ford, in that case, and planes were pouring off it at 1:00 clock in the morning. So typically when you see that late at night, you know you could be in trouble, right? And we were all ready. They had their equipment, it was Russian and they had Chinese equipment. It was all set. They were going to give us a fight. He said, and then they came, and they came at speeds like we've never seen. And they came at 17 different angles. The general and his people, that was a lot of angles. They hit him from every angle. He said, we knew it was over in three minutes. We were waiting for him. Their equipment didn't work, and there's a reason it didn't work. Someday we'll explain that to people. They pressed the button. Nothing happened. They pressed it again and again. Nothing happened. And he said, we knew this whole thing was over in three minutes. We've never seen anything. He used the word ferocity, the ferocity of these planes from 17 different angles, and it was over. They went inside and remember, that was on a military base with thousands of soldiers. And those soldiers looked and they said, get the hell out of here. Thousands. We didn't have thousands. We had like 200 people. So we have a great military And I'll tell you what. Somehow this rescue captured the world's attention. More so than normally you're talking about two people, but this rescue captured the world's attention, but we did it in Venezuela. That was amazing. And now we have a very bad man in prison and going to trial. I mean, he. He released. Aside from the drugs, which he was terrible, Maduro released hundreds of thousands of people from jails into our country. Drug dealers, murderers. The worst people in the world were released into our country because we had a stupid president who probably didn't know, and we had a border czar who never went to the border and never once called our great border patrol agents, right? Not once. Kamala, she never called the Border Patrol. She never said, how are we doing? I used to call the Border Patrol guys every day. You can ask them. Paul, ask any one of them. Brandon, ask him all the time. How are we doing? How are we doing? And we now, I'm proud to say, have a totally sealed border. Nine months. Nobody is coming through our border, and nobody even tries because they know they're not going to get through. So we don't have caravans anymore. So maybe one or two more and we'll be done.
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Jack Posobiec
Mr. President, are you allowed to. Are you willing to end this conflict with Iran charging tolls for passage through the street?
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Donald Trump
US Charging tolls?
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Jack Posobiec
Iran?
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Donald Trump
What about US charging tolls? Is that something you're considering? I'd rather do that than let them have them run. Why shouldn't we? We're the winner. We won, okay? They are militarily defeated. The only thing they have is the psychology of, oh, we're going to drop a couple of mines in the water. All right? No, we. I mean, we have a concept where we'll charge tolls. Okay, I thought you meant your question. Your question. Your question would have been more accurate if you said, just to clarify, in order for Iran to successfully meet your deadline tomorrow, do they have to make a deal, open the strait, or both? We have to have a deal that's acceptable to me, and part of that deal is going to be, we want free traffic of oil and everything else.
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Jack Posobiec
President, thank you very much.
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Donald Trump
You said, glory be to God. In this conflict, do you believe that
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
God supports the United States actions?
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Donald Trump
I do. Because God is good. Because God is good and God wants to see people taken care of. God doesn't like what's happening. I don't like what's happening. Everyone says, I enjoy. I don't enjoy this. I don't enjoy. These two guys don't enjoy it. You know, people say, oh, boy, they're so tough. They don't want, they don't like. I don't like seeing people killed. I've ended eight wars. Nobody's ever done it. The person who won the Nobel Prize came to me and said, you deserve the Nobel Prize. She announced that. When they announced, they said, goes to Maria. She's a great person, really a good person. She said, no, no, no, this is ridiculous. They gave me the Nobel Prize. President Trump aimed at eight wars. I could go over every one of them, including India and Pakistan, where the prime Minister of Pakistan said President Trump saved from 30 to 50 million lives. That makes me much happier than what we're doing right now. That makes me much happier. We have one more to end. By the way, President, you called the yesterday, in your truth, social. You called the Iranians crazy bastards. True. What is your response to critics who say, I don't care about. What is your response to critics who say that is your mental health that should perhaps be examined as this war continues? I haven't heard that. But if that's the case, you're going to have to have more people like me because our country was being ripped off on trade, on everything for many years until I came along. So if that's the case, you're going to have to have more people. Dasha, go ahead. You said that very little is off limits in Iran as far as targeting, including power plants, bridges. You've mentioned those. Very little is off limits. Are there certain kinds of civilian targets, though? I'm thinking. I don't want to tell you that. I don't want to tell you that we have, we have a plan because of the power of our military, where every bridge in Iran will be decimated by 12 o' clock tomorrow night. Where every power plant in Iran will be out of business, burning, exploding, and never to be used again. I mean, complete demolition by 12 o' clock, and it'll happen over a period of four hours. If we wanted to, we don't want that to happen. We may even get involved with helping them rebuild their nation. And you know what? If that's the case, the last thing we want to do is start with power plants, which are among the most expensive thing. And bridges. You saw the bridge. The bridge went. We were very close to a deal. And then I got a call from Mr. Witkoff, Mr. Kushner and JD saying, I think they're breaking the deal. I said, tell them that's okay, don't worry about it, but tell them to look out their window and watch. And within 45 minutes, I gave the order to knock out the biggest bridge. I gave the order, knock out the biggest bridge in I believe the Middle east, but the biggest bridge in Iran. And within 10 minutes after I gave that order, that bridge was over. So do I want to do that? No. Do I want to destroy their infrastructure? No. It will take them 100 years to rebuild right now. If we left today, it would take them 20 years to rebuild their country and it would never be as good as it was. And the only way they're going to be able to rebuild their country is to utilize the genius of the United States of America. You voiced your displeasure with NATO in the past. Is there a danger to the US not being the de facto of the leader of the alliance and then other powers within the alliance then getting the decision making when, when it comes to wars and nuclear weapons, it's not a danger. NATO's. Look, we went to NATO. I didn't ask very strongly. I just said, hey, if you want to help, great. No, no, no, we will not help. I said, that's all right. You don't want to help. Because I've always said NATO's a paper tiger. See, NATO is a paper tiger. Putin's not afraid of NATO. Putin's afraid of us. Very afraid of us. And he's explained it to me a lot of times. I got to know him very well. I know him very well. NATO is a paper tiger. NATO is us. And when we needed them, we didn't need them, by the way. We didn't need them, obviously, because they haven't helped at all. Just the opposite. They've actually gone out of their way not to help. They didn't even want to give us landing strips. Think of it. And it's not just NATO. You know who else didn't help us? South Korea didn't help us. You know who else didn't help us? Australia. You know who else didn't help us? Japan. We've got 50,000 soldiers in Japan to protect them from North Korea. We have 45,000 soldiers in South Korea to protect us from Kim Jong Un, who I get along with very well, as you know. Do you notice he said very nice things about me? He used to call Joe Biden a mentally retarded person. Okay, so don't tell me about your stuff. Joe Biden, he said he's a mentally retarded person. He was so nasty to Joe Biden. It was terrible. But to me, he likes Trump. And do you Notice how nice things are with North Korea. It's very nice, but we have 45,000 people, soldiers in harm's way and right next to Kim Jong Un with a lot of nuclear weapons. 45, which should have never happened. If a certain president, I'm not going to mention this president because I happen to like him, believe it or not. But if a certain president did his job, Kim Jong Un would not have nuclear weapons right now. But they were all afraid to do their job properly. But just to conclude and just to finish, Japan didn't help us. Australia didn't help us. South Korea didn't help us. And then you get to NATO. NATO didn't help us. There were some countries that did now, countries that have been good. Now, you could also say they're going to be a little bit more involved because they're in the territory. But Saudi Arabia has been excellent. Qatar has been excellent. UAE has been excellent. Bahrain, Kuwait, I mean, Kuwait did shoot down three of our planes. The only planes really that we lost with friendly fire. They call it, I call it unfriendly fire. They unfortunately didn't know how to use our, our great Patriots. The pilots said, what kind of a missile is coming at us? Patriot. Boom. They got out because they know a Patriot never misses. So they had beautiful Patriots. There were planes heading in their direction. Unfortunately, they decided to shoot those planes. They were our planes. So no, NATO is a paper tiger now. He's coming to see me on Wednesday. As you know, he's a wonderful guy. Secretary General is great. And Mark Ruta, he's a great person, but he's got, and you know, it all began with, if you want to know the truth, Greenland. We want Greenland. They don't want to give it to us. And I said, bye, bye. Okay, thank you very much, everybody. Thank you.
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Jack Posobiec
This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
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Donald Trump
A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran.
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Steve Hilton
This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobic. Christ is king.
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Jack Posobiec
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. We're here live, Washington, D.C. today is April 6, 2026 Anno Domini. We are here in studio, President Trump just giving a round robin press conference on this incredible rescue successful mission that took place behind enemy lines in Iran. Here we've got Kevin Soba, kposo, our field correspondent, riding sidesaddle. We got Tom Sauerk here as well. United States Navy veteran. Tom, you know you've gone through a lot of these courses in a walk through, you know, Just how remarkable it is that the United States was able to pull off this kind of mission and how, quite frankly, this is the kind of thing that you just don't usually see.
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
No, that's right.
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Jack Posobiec
By the way, I'll just say it. I think all of us kind of in the vet community were sort of waiting for that, for that message that, hey, they caught him.
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
Yeah, I was actually really worried about it totally.
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Jack Posobiec
That we, I mean, I'm not saying we wanted. I'm saying there was that anxiety that, like, he's way in there.
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
No, absolutely. And one of the things that they always teach us is that, you know, very rarely do you rise to the occasion. You sink to the lowest level of training.
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Jack Posobiec
Correct.
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
And so that is something that all these pilots have been trained in consistently. And then this time they knew it was happening for real. And now when that actually happened, he was injured, he knew what to do. He had to get high, he had to hide, and he had to get high. And at the time, same, same time, we deployed that Guardian angel package, which is incredible with Air Force pararescue, and then we also had the HC130s with the little birds. I mean, we set up our own, our own base out there. Our own little farp, you know, ford area. What, forward area, refueling point, fueling point. Yeah, I mean, we set one up right there. We immediately got to work. We bombed the living daylight out of all the approach roads. I was watching satellite pictures where they actually had all the roads that approached where the Americans were and they dropped several 2,000 pound bombs there. And these craters, they said from space you could see them, that the craters were about 9 meters wide. Just so basically like any avenue of approach for the Iranians to come to where our little base was and to where our down pilot was.
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Jack Posobiec
Because he's. He's way out there in Indian country.
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
Yeah, he's way out there. And his call sign is dude, 44.
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Jack Posobiec
How cool is that? Awesome. Kevin, one of the things, Let me ask you on this because I saw a lot of, a lot of this, I'm sure you saw as well, online where people were saying a lot of foreigners were saying, why do Americans do this? Who cares? I mean, you spent a bunch of money. You've had to, you know, frag a couple of your own platforms. Why do Americans care so much about getting that one person, that lone survivor allowing to get that one person home? Why are we willing to go to such great lengths? What do other countries miss about us?
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Kevin Posobec
Well, this is not just, I mean, all soldiers. We can't leave them behind. No man left behind. And I think that's the motto for the US Paratroopers, the Air Force, so
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Jack Posobiec
that others may live.
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Kevin Posobec
Absolutely. That's it there. Yeah. I mean, this is a F15 pilot. I believe there was two as well. Or just the one was recovered.
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
I think they're both recovered.
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Jack Posobiec
The pilot and then this was the weapons officer.
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Kevin Posobec
I see.
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Jack Posobiec
But I'm saying, what does it say about the American ethos that we put our human life on such a high pedestal? Other really don't do this, by the way.
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Kevin Posobec
I mean, we value all the America's military members, service members overseas. I mean, this is a critical operation. We don't want to see them stuck behind at all. And, you know, it's an amazing mission. We saved the dude, right? Dude was coming home.
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Jack Posobiec
That's the dude is coming home. Tom, let me, let me ask you, because on the same question, because I'll just say that I was involved in an exercise with a, let's say partner force nation.
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
Yes.
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Jack Posobiec
As you know, the ubiquitous partner force nation that I'd like to talk about because we don't like to name names.
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
Right.
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Jack Posobiec
And I remember, you know, talking about this and, you know, this exercise, exercise purposes, you know, situation that, you know, they said, okay, we're going to do this and we're going to send this unit in and then we're going to have this. And I said, wait, you're going to send the unit in before you have air assets? I mean, you're gonna get all those guys killed, you know. And I remember this partner force nation officer said to me, they're infantry. That's what they're for. Right. Again, there's just other countries don't fight like we fight.
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
I'll give you a great example of this with another partner force nation that was a third world country that many people on Twitter love saying poor things about the third world country. Sure. And we, we had a picture. We saw a picture from an actual IED event where there was a EOD technician, a bomb technician from this partner force country sticking his hands into a bomb and live bomb with this bomb suit visor up, as you do, as one does. And then I thought to myself, wait, who's taking the picture? Right, right. And then we asked him and said, well, wait, why don't you use the Talon robots that we sold you?
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Donald Trump
Right, right, right.
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
And that, and that third world countries officer said to me, those robots cost $150,000.
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Kevin Posobec
Oh, no, there it Is.
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
Yeah. You know.
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Jack Posobiec
Yeah. So, no, actually, come to think of it, I remember a number of times when, as you know, because I. I had. Did some. Some EOD work and on. From the intel side.
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Kevin Posobec
Yeah.
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Donald Trump
That.
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Jack Posobiec
That would come up over and over where we would give them. Sometimes we sell them technology. A lot of times we just give it to them.
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
Right.
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Jack Posobiec
And then you go back and it's like, oh, we haven't used it since the last time you guys were here.
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
Right.
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Jack Posobiec
And you're like, you're supposed to be using those to protect people, especially science, against all the stuff. And they're just not using it because they don't put that. They don't put that premium on human life that we do. Which, by the way, at the same time, even if you take sort of. Kevin, like you're talking about the moral aspects of it and even the spiritual aspects, I'd go that far. Just from a military perspective, think about how much time and investment and money that you put into training whoever that guy is that getting him to that point. If something happens to him, you got to yank somebody off the street, you know, Joe Nobody, and you got to start from scratch.
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
Tom, you can't just buy another experienced F15 pilot. You can't just buy another senior enlisted special operations, you know, team sergeant or team chief or anything like that. Like, that takes time to develop. So even again, from a military standpoint, people are far more important than hardware. That's something that General Kane said today, and I see it on Twitter on X now a lot. But to me, that's something that I always knew, and I think some people are just now realizing that that is how the US Military has and always will operate. So that's one of the things I thought was really interesting people. I see the Europeans and you spent $300 million and you lost all these aircraft just for grab one guy. And it's like, guess what? And we'll do it again, and we'll do it again.
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Jack Posobiec
We'll do it every single time.
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
A great example of this as well, if you've ever heard of Neil Roberts. Roberts Ridge was a Navy SEAL from Naval Special Warfare Development Group Seal Team 6 who was lost in Tahir Gur in Afghanistan in 2002. And they didn't know if he was alive right away. And then eventually, even after they knew he was killed in action, seven men died and 12 were wounded, and two or three helicopters were lost just to recover his body. Body. They knew he was dead, but they do that simply to recover his body. So that's something. When it comes to combat, search and rescue, it's not just about saving a life. It's like. No, no, because we know that every time. Hey, were you going in harm's way? No matter what happens to me, there will. People will fight and kill and die for you. Your body, dead or alive, to come home. That's they know, no matter what happens. So that's pretty impressive.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, it speaks as well, I would say to. It is part of the ethos. I mean, I would say it does kind of give you that subconscious knowledge that if something happens to me, that someone's got my back. Yes, because if you want more people to join, you have to understand that's the ethos. But I wouldn't necessarily say that that's something that people actively think about. It's just. It's not really something that I've heard people talk about. But again, it's. It's that espirit of core. Yeah, it's that a spirit of core that, hey, if my buddy's down there, I'm going to go help my buddy or I'm going to do whatever I can. And in many cases, some people were saying that, you know, some of the F15s that were flying the cap for this thing that may have even been part of the same squadron as the guys who went down.
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
Oh, yeah, and it shows.
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Kevin Posobec
We follow through, too, as Americans. You have video games about modern warfare. You got Top Gun movies. Yeah, you got. The movie Behind Enemy Lines was literally the same situation. So talk about joining and you know, being pro military, we have this in movie theaters and Hollywood's pushing this out, but it's like, hey, guys, we're following through.
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Donald Trump
Well, this was.
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Jack Posobiec
That was actually one of the things that was trending this weekend because the plot of not Top Gun 1, but Top Gun 2 is the. Is there the F15 crash?
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Steve Hilton
I guess.
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Jack Posobiec
I guess it's F35, I think, or a.22 in Top Gun too. I forget, actually. But. But the point is Tom Cruise, all right, Tom Cruise crashes with his Wizzo, and then they have to find a tomcat that just happens to be on the ground again. Third World nation, but it's definitely Iran in that movie. Yeah, so. So people were saying that is he going to. Maybe he'll just find it there and they can hotwire it, fly it back up again. Was that. Was that a little predictive programming? What do you think?
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Kevin Posobec
I don't know. Maybe.
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
I mean, Top Gun, Maverick, Chinese companies.
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Jack Posobiec
That's a great point. Because they took, they took, they took, they took Taiwan. They wanted off the patch and I
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
don't know, I think they wanted to go after it.
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Jack Posobiec
That's an interesting take because we know that of course the Chinese are standing. Well, put it this way, the Chinese don't like the instability that's going on right now. They want the oil flowing. They don't like seeing this. They're working with the Pakistanis to try to work out this five point plan. They're pushing Iran. Say, hey guys, say you want a ceasefire. But there is, and I'm just going to say as well, there is a huge split right now between the Iranian civilian leadership because you've seen them come out and say, hey, we would like a cease fire. The President, Pashe, has come out and said this. But then the military leadership is like, no, no, cease fire. We're going to keep going. Because remember, and this is, this is absolute key, is that the irgc, right, their loyalty isn't to pragmatism. Their loyalty is to the regime itself. They're considered the defenders of the revolution. That's why it's the Revolutionary Guard Corps. They're chosen for their loyalty to the revolution. That therefore they don't care what happens to the economy. They don't care what happens. Any of that stuff. They're going all in. They're all in. So, so just. Tom, last, last bit to you before. I know you got to run when you're, when you're dealing with all of this. Look, let's, let's zoom out here. Great operation, Incredible to see. And I said this on Twitter, regardless of what anyone's position on the war is, the strategy, it's just cool and it's just awesome, right? It's just awesome to see the power, the prowess of the United States military. But that being said, the fact that they were able to shoot down a number of our planes, that does speak to the fact that they're still in the fight.
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
They've still got something. I agree. I mean there are, they are going to be able to get a few potshots here and there. There might be one or two missiles that they pull out of Haiti, there might be a few drones they pull up, but by and large we've got a lot of control over the airspace and over that country. But I agree with you, it is great to see winners winning. And also I think one that's always important to keep in mind that like me, for instance, I had some real doubts and reservations on the run up to all this but now that we're doing as well as we are, despite what many other people would like to tell you, the fact we're doing as well as we are, I'm very, I'm actually, I'm very pleased about it because also like, even if, when it's just that success, even if it's something that maybe some people might not have been too excited about us doing, when you succeed at it, it becomes more popular.
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Jack Posobiec
Oh, winning reads popularity. Tom Sour people follow you, brother.
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
Find me on X at Thomas B. Sour.
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Jack Posobiec
Thomas B. Sour. All right. He'll be right back, folks. Human Events has a very special guest. You'll understand why coming up next. Here we turn Real America's voice.
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Steve Hilton
I'm fantastic. Great to be with you, Jack. And I'm thrilled because this is my first public reaction and it's with you. And I'm so happy that it is. We saw each other not that long ago, a few months ago in Bakersfield when we were both there with Megyn Kelly on her tour. And I told you then, I think that we can do this in California. People are sick of the nonsense after 16 years of Democrat one party rule, and it's been getting better and better since then. I've been leading in the polls, leading on fundraising. There's a lot of energy. And this was a great, great piece of news, totally unexpected. I hadn't spoken to the President about this at all. I did speak to him afterwards and it's just wonderful and of course, an incredible honor to be endorsed by our President.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, that's incredible. I was just going to ask you, I can tell you've got some interviewing skills there because you anticipated my first question was did you know beforehand? So you said you didn't know. You did speak to him afterwards. Are you able to tell us what the President said to you when you spoke after your endorsement?
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Steve Hilton
Yeah, he was, he was obviously, you know, I know the president. We have, we have a. Not close in the sense that we're not on the phone the whole time, but we've known each other for years, as he noted in his endorsement message. And we had a great conversation and he was obviously very, this is the incredible thing about this man. With everything else going on, he was very aware of the dynamics of the race. The Democrat candidates, the other Republican in the race, we had a bit of a conversation about that. But the thing that we most discussed and the thing that is so exciting about the prospect of the potential change we can bring about in California is like, imagine what it will be like when I win in November, take office in January. And then you've got the governor of our biggest state, by far the biggest economy in America, working with the president and his team to advance common sense goals like energy independence and finding fraud and enforcing our immigration laws. All these things and many, many more. Where literally the people in charge now, Newsom, and especially his attorney general, Rob Bonta, are constantly fighting Trump on everything, anything Trump wants to do or anything that the administration wants to do with respect to California, it's no, we're fighting it. Lawsuits, everything. And it's just ridiculous. It's going to be a huge day, not just for California, but for the whole country. When You've got our biggest state, the biggest economy now, you know, aligned with the common sense goals in terms of energy and fraud and all the other things, and deregulation and enforcing immigration law. It's going to be a huge, huge change for the whole country.
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Jack Posobiec
Now, I have to ask you, because we've seen recently that Governor Newsom has come out and talked about, oh, the gas prices are so up, they're so much higher in California, and he's blaming all of it on Iran. And certainly, to be sure, the oil markets have absolutely, absolutely contracted. But, Steve, is that the real reason that gas is up so high in California? And is there anything that the governor could do, or perhaps a new governor to provide relief there?
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Steve Hilton
Of course. Look, the reason that we have the highest gas price, I mean, you go around California, I'm on the road the whole time. And so, you know, last week we were seeing 656,90. We saw 723 at one point. And it's just insane. However bad it is in America, in terms of the temporary spike from what's going on in the Middle east, It's at least $2 a gallon worse in California. Trump is the president here as well. The Iran war is also going on, as it were, here. So it can't be that. It's obviously not that. It's obviously Gavin Newsom and his policies, a combination of the gas tax, which is the highest in the country, the regulations on production and refining of oil, which are ridiculous and don't do anything for the climate. All they do is cause pain. And then the final part is shutting down our oil and gas industry in California. We have abundant oil reserves in California, and yet we're closing it down. We are now importing nearly 80% of the oil we use in California. There's a pipeline in and out of California, so what we're doing is shipping it in from halfway around the world. Our number one provider of oil today is Iraq. It's just insane when we have it here, all in the name of climate. They're spewing out carbon emissions on these tankers, bringing oil from Iraq to California when we have it here. But they want to pretend that this is good for the environment. It's just insane.
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Jack Posobiec
And so, Steve, as governor, what could you do to provide relief to Californians on this?
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Steve Hilton
So, number one is you can suspend the gas tax. And in fact, even some Democrats have been calling for that. And that has to be with the legislature. But that can be suspended over time. It needs to be reduced. But the Underlying thing that the governor really can do directly is open up California oil and gas production because they're closing it down through administrative action through one of the agencies of state government, where I would kick out the climate fanatics who are there now, put in place common sense, pro energy people, and tell them to issue every single permit that the industry needs. I've had these conversations with the industry and we think that if we've got a sensible attitude there, we can double California oil and gas production every two years. That creates more business for the refineries so they don't have to close down, so we don't have to import finished gasolines and the whole system can get back on track. So actually, there's a lot you can do and very quickly as governor, to turn this situation around and bring down prices. It was actually the first one of my previous conversations with the President. I'll share with you one of the first pledges that I made. In fact, the first pledge on the campaign trail after I launched my campaign was $3 gas in California. Of course, $3 gas for the rest of the country sounds. What's so good about that for us? It's amazing. And I remember speaking to the President about something else, and he cut me off and he'd seen me talking about it. He said, hey, Steve, I've seen you talk about $3 gas. Keep saying that you'll win the race just with that. And then he stopped and said, wait, what about 250?
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Jack Posobiec
What about 250? Steve, our real quick, our field correspondent Kevin Posobec has a quick question for you.
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Kevin Posobec
Hey, Steve. And your endorsement now, it comes on the heels of another voter ID initiative in California. You know, amidst this filibustering with the SAVE Act, I wanted to ask you. So you guys got over a million signatures and you only needed about 800,000, it seems.
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Military Analyst / Correspondent
What.
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Kevin Posobec
What's your team doing to head this on?
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Jack Posobiec
Moving forward real quick, just one minute.
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Steve Hilton
Steve, I'm so glad you raised that. It's actually one of the main reasons we really can pull this off and bring the shock victory in November, which I know no one is expecting. They say California, so Democratic. It's all about turnout, of course, in a midterm election. And voter ID on the ballot in November, as it will now be, is a huge driver of Republican turnout. So that's one of the big reasons I think we can win is that voter ID ballot initiative. The other, of course, is the disastrous Democrat field. I mean, look at who they're sending as the president would say they're not sending their best Eric Swalwell, Katie Porter, the billionaire climate fanatic Tom Steyer. These Democrats are all beatable. And now with the president's endorsement, I'm very confident that I will indeed beat whichever one of them.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, congratulations and Godspeed to you. Steve Hilton. Check him out. Steve Hilton for Governor. Check out Kevin Posobec as well on X. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have our permission to lay ashore.
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Martha Stewart
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Donald Trump
When I was diagnosed, all I wanted to do was get back to work. I wanted to get back to that trajectory that I was on. Prior to the cancer. I always felt like I had value. I had a place on the team to just be treated with dignity. It means everything.
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Jack Posobiec
Research shows there is a significant connection between the ability to continue to work and cancer recovery. We can make work a better place
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Donald Trump
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