Human Events with Jack Posobiec – December 11, 2025

Podcast: Real America’s Voice / iHeartPodcasts
Date Aired: December 12, 2025
Episode Overview:
This episode of “Human Events” with Jack Posobiec centers on the aftermath of Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk’s murder, the ongoing trial of his accused killer, Tyler Robinson, and a deep dive into the escalation and societal acceptance of leftist political violence across America and the West. In a roundtable format, Jack is joined by Dr. Charles Cornish Dale (the “Raw Egg Nationalist”), his wife Tanya Tay Posobiec, and pollster Rich Barris (“The People’s Pundit”) for an impassioned, sobering analysis of violence in politics, public attitudes, historical parallels, and personal grief.

Main Theme and Purpose

The episode explores the growing threat and normalization of leftist violence against political opponents, the societal and cultural shifts enabling this behavior, and its devastating impacts on families and democratic life. It combines the latest polling data with insights from history and personal experience to question whether the right is taking these threats seriously enough.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Current Events and Ongoing Trauma (03:02–06:12)

• Charlie Kirk’s assassination: Jack sets the atmosphere—just three months after Kirk’s murder, the pain and consequences remain immediate and raw for the conservative movement.
• Copycat violence concerns: Since Kirk’s death, political violence has seemed more conceivable, and Posobiec reflects on his own vulnerability and that of other public figures and students.
  • “It’s all I can think about when I’m sitting here, quite frankly… what’s going to happen when I get another comment … that another one of my friends got shot and killed…” (Jack, 04:20)
• Public disbelief and denial:
  • Dr. Dale notes, “There’s been polling that shows … a majority of Americans don’t even think that Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk… people excusing the murder…” (Dr. Dale, 05:15)
  • The hosts agree: the political left are the “primary beneficiaries” of Kirk’s death, stalling right-wing organizing.

2. Polling Data & Cultural Shifts Toward Violence (09:43–13:12)

• Rich Barris’ polling:
  • “The left views words the same way that the rest of us view actual violence…a plurality … of liberal Democrats with college education…think that Charlie and others…deserved what they got for their own views…” (Rich Barris, 09:43–11:28)
  • 40% of educated liberal Democrats blame victims for holding dissenting views.
• Implications of this mindset: This intellectual frame justifies violence as self-defense if words are viewed as “harm.”
• Impact on families and victims:
  • Tanya Tay highlights the grief of survivors like Erica Kirk: “…all the grief experts out there … get to shut off their phone … but guess what? Erica Kirk can never go back to her normal life…” (Tanya Tay, 13:12)

3. Political Terrorism, Psychological Warfare, and Societal Effects (17:04–18:21)

• Violence as psychological warfare: Dr. Dale explains: “That is what terrorism is. You inflict terror, you make people afraid… it isn’t just about killing one person. … Their strategy has worked.” (Dr. Dale, 17:04)
• Chilling effects, even among elites: Reference to Elon Musk’s publicized security concerns after Kirk’s murder:
  • “He’s the richest man in the world and … he cannot go outside…” (Dr. Dale, 17:47)
• Right-wing factionalism and disarray: Violence has disrupted leadership and unity.

4. Historical Parallels: Soviet Repression and the Assassination of the Romanovs (29:18–32:39)

• Tanya Tay on Bolshevik terror: Drawing parallels between Soviet purges and current leftist violence, Tanya describes the murder of the Romanov family as a foundational act.
  • “…violence became an acceptable means of changing the course of history… every single person who was too outspoken…was either sent to the gulags…or disappeared…” (Tanya Tay, 29:48–30:37)
• Narrative and education: Soviet schools taught ambiguous histories, framing the oppressors/oppressed dynamically.
• Lessons for America: The discussion posits that leftist revolution’s endgame is endless—eliminate one “out-group” and new ones are found.

5. Pathology of Leftist Violence and Group Psychology (34:17–37:55)

• Dr. Dale’s theory: Left and right approach violence differently; the right clings to reason and debate (as Kirk did), while the left increasingly justifies violence as defensive.
• In-group vs out-group preference: Dale introduces research (from his upcoming book) suggesting biology—specifically testosterone levels—may help explain differing group allegiances and justification for violence.
  • “…testosterone … affects men’s political affiliation… greater in-group preference. … liberals constantly favor the out-group over the in-group.” (Dr. Dale, 36:05)

6. Transgender Identity and Political Violence (39:37–41:28)

• Rich Barris’ data:
  • “Do some people hold beliefs … so offensive, that acts of violence are justified against them?” Nearly 70% of trans respondents agreed—well above any other demographic.
  • Perceived threat to identity is central to justifying violence.

7. Personal Toll and Grief in the Movement (42:25–45:05)

• Family impact: Tanya shares about living with Jack through his public grief and ongoing activism.
  • “He hasn’t stopped from the second he heard the news … he’s been in total mission mode. … Then … when we … join a movie … he just looks somewhere far in the distance and … I just miss my friend.” (Tanya Tay, 42:37)
• Jack’s emotional moment:
  • “People ask me what I want for Christmas… only one thing… I want my friend back. It’s the only thing.” (Jack, 45:05)

8. Calls to Action and Closing Thoughts

• Leadership and response: All panelists lament the Trump administration’s “inadequate response” to Kirk’s death, noting a political and psychological vacuum on the right.
  • “Honestly, Jack, it was not an appropriate response. And it left the right angry, and it left them upset and feeling defenseless.” (Rich Barris, 22:47)
• Concluding warnings:
  • The left’s sense of victimization is never satisfied by attaining power—“constant revolution, complete and total elimination of political opponents” is the endgame (Jack, 26:54).
  • Historical cycles and leftist violence cannot be wished away—a robust and reasoned response from the right is urgently needed.

Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• Jack Posobiec:

  • “This is what happens when the Fourth Turning meets fifth generation warfare.” (00:39)
  • “It’s meant to be in public…an upstanding man who believed in the power of discussion and debate… No, you shoot him in the neck in public.” (34:41, on Kirk’s murder)
  • “I want my friend back. It’s the only thing.” (45:05)

• Dr. Charles Cornish Dale:

  • “You inflict terror, you make people afraid…It isn’t just about killing one person…Their strategy has worked.” (17:04)
  • “The right, actually, we’re still relying on reason and debate…that should be a message, shouldn’t it? Actually, this is what…trying to debate these people. This is where it gets you.” (34:17–34:53)
  • “Testosterone…affects men’s political affiliation…you talked about out-group preference…liberals constantly favor the out-group over the in-group.” (36:05)

• Rich Barris:

  • “The left views words the same way that the rest of us view actual violence…” (09:43)
  • “A plurality of liberal Democrats with college education … think that Charlie and others … deserved what they got for their own views.” (11:28)
  • “…when you ask trans individuals that … do some people hold beliefs so bad that acts of violence are justified against them … it’s almost 70%...” (39:37)

• Tanya Tay Posobiec:

  • “…Erica Kirk can never go back to her normal life…She has to live with a huge loss. … She had to stand up … while being the CEO of Turning Point USA, while being a mother, while being the daughter-in-law who has to support the grieving parents.” (13:12)
  • “…the Romanov family got assassinated ... they did not spare anybody’s life. ... violence became an acceptable means of changing the course of history.” (29:18)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Roundtable Introductions & Setting the Stakes: 03:02–05:15
• Public Denial and Theories: 05:15–06:12
• Polling on Leftist Attitudes Toward Violence: 09:43–11:28
• Impact on Victims’ Families: 13:12–15:29
• Political Terrorism and Social Effects: 17:04–18:21
• Soviet Parallels & Romanov Assassination: 29:18–32:39
• Group Psychology, Masculinity & Violence: 34:17–37:55
• Transgender Politics & Violence Justification Data: 39:37–41:28
• Personal Reflection & Grief: 42:37–45:05

Conclusion

Tone:
Deeply personal, urgent, and emotionally charged. The panel blends data, history, and first-person testimony to underline the seriousness of political violence, the cultural shifts enabling it, and the lack of effective political response. The impact of loss is driven home through Jack and Tanya’s intimate descriptions of grief.

For New Listeners:
This episode serves both as a memorial for Charlie Kirk and a call to recognize and confront the rising tide of left-wing political violence—an issue the hosts believe is underappreciated, dangerously normalized, and deeply corrosive to the American spirit.

Panelists’ Socials/Plugs:

• Rich Barris: peoplespundit.locals.com
• Dr. Charles Cornish Dale: Twitter @BabyGravy9 / raweggstack.com / upcoming book: The Last Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity (Amazon, out Dec 16)
• Tanya Tay Posobiec: Twitter @RealTanyaTay

Host: Jack Posobiec

If you only take away one thing:
Political violence isn’t just headline news for this panel—it’s a daily, lived reality, with seismic personal and cultural costs. Their plea: recognize the danger, support the victims, and demand accountability.