Human Events with Jack Posobiec, December 25th, 2025

Summary

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Human Events with Jack Posobiec – Christmas Special

Episode Date: December 25, 2025
Podcast Network: Real America’s Voice, iHeartPodcasts
Host: Jack Posobiec
Special Guests: Jack Posobiec Jr. (son, “Jack Jack”), Uncle Kevin, Tanya Tay (Jack’s wife), AJ (son), Neighbor Joshua

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Episode Overview

This heartfelt Christmas special centers on family, remembrance, and tradition, set amid the Turning Point USA (TPUSA) AMFest in Phoenix, Arizona. Jack Posobiec hosts his family and friends for reflections on Christmas values, storytelling, and a poignant tribute to the late Charlie Kirk—founder of TPUSA and longtime friend and collaborator. The episode blends personal anecdotes, childhood nostalgia, the meaning of the season, and the enduring influence of Kirk, all with a warm and playful family spirit.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Remembering Charlie Kirk

• Jack and son Jack Jack begin by discussing Charlie Kirk's legacy, specifically how this is the first AMFest and Christmas without him ([04:36]–[07:00]).

• Emphasis on Kirk's commitment to engaging young people, his love for former President Trump, and his devotion to family and church.

• Jack guides his son through processing grief and the importance of supporting Kirk’s children.

  • Quote:

    “What do you think a good thing that we could do to try to remember Mr. Charlie would be?”
    —Jack Posobiec ([05:10])

  • Jack Jack’s Response:

    “If we talk about him.”
    —Jack Posobiec Jr. ([05:23])

2. Christmas Values: Giving over Getting

• Dialogue with Jack Jack about the real meaning of Christmas—centering on giving, celebrating Jesus, and compassion ([08:10]–[09:10]).

• Jack Jack and his sibling AJ made Christmas cards for the Kirk family, symbolizing generosity and solidarity.

  • Quote:

    “Is Christmas about getting things?”
    “No.”
    —Jack Posobiec and Jack Posobiec Jr. ([08:19])

  • Quote:

    “What should it be about?”
    “It's not about getting. It's about giving.”
    —Jack Posobiec and Jack Jack ([08:42])

3. Family & Childhood Stories

• Uncle Kevin reminisces about growing up and the changes in their childhood town, Norristown, PA—a mix of happy and tough memories ([14:12]–[22:23]).

  • Nostalgic tales of snowball fights, sledding, making tin-can telephones, and visiting the library.

  • Reflection on why their family left the neighborhood (citing crime and urban decline), and the value of resilient, loving communities.

  • Quote:

    “I don't have the best Norristown stories, you know, I remember a lot of the bad things, you know, and eventually, like, why we moved and whatnot. But I do remember, like, just nostalgic Christmas time.”
    —Uncle Kevin ([20:47])

4. Personal Tributes to Charlie Kirk

• The segment contains stories about working with Charlie, sharing burgers at In-N-Out, and witnessing Kirk’s generosity and focus ([14:30]–[18:34]).

• Tanya offers a moving perspective from backstage at AMFest, describing her denial and ongoing grief, emphasizing Erica Kirk’s strength and the support network surrounding her ([32:50]–[36:06]).

  • Quote:

    “...I’m still in the denial phase, that it still feels surreal that he’s not here with us at the biggest event of the year... waiting for him to just, like, come around the corner.”
    —Tanya Tay ([32:50])

  • Quote:

    “I hope that she knows how much love there is for her, and I hope that she feels all the prayers for her and her family... there is the army of Turning Point USA students, high schoolers, ambassadors, contributors, sponsors who are 100% behind her...”
    —Tanya Tay ([35:10])

5. Jack’s Early Days with Charlie

• Tanya shares memories of first meeting Charlie Kirk in Chicago, sensing his future impact even as a very young man with big ambitions ([40:13]–[43:59]).

  • Quote:

    “He was speaking with such conviction, and he had this charisma about him... I felt like every person in the room at that moment believed that he could do it.”
    —Tanya Tay ([42:47])

6. Neighbor Joshua Reflects on Charlie’s Intellect & Legacy

• Neighbor Joshua describes the unique rapport and intellectual depth Kirk brought to interviews, especially in challenging his guests, and how he predicted times of cultural upheaval ([45:07]–[48:51]).

• Recounts stories of Kirk’s presence during book promotions and his graciousness, particularly celebrating others’ achievements.

  • Quote:

    “Several times in the first interview... his reply back was, in a kind way, ‘I don't believe you quite yet on that. I need you to prove it to me.”
    —Neighbor Joshua ([46:54])

  • Quote:

    “He was so proud that we had made the [NYT bestseller] list... You really did it. He was so proud. He was so happy...”
    —Jack Posobiec ([57:44])

7. The Culture—Heritage, Tradition, and Holidays as Defiance

• The group discusses the pressures facing American culture and the symbolic importance of Christmas, family, and tradition in resisting anti-Christian and anti-family sentiment ([53:21]–[58:28]).

• Target “Grandma” Jeanie’s stoic defense of TPUSA is cited as an example of simple courage in the culture wars.

  • Quote:

    “Celebrate excellence, celebrate greatness, celebrate achievement. And that is right wing coded...”
    —Jack Posobiec ([57:51])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|-------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:34 | Jack Posobiec | "Christ is king. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome." | | 08:42 | Jack Jr. (son) | "It's not about getting. It's about giving." | | 14:47 | Uncle Kevin | "It’s just bittersweet, Jack. It’s just bittersweet. It’s been the best AM Fest ever, really. And … without Charlie..." | | 20:47 | Uncle Kevin | "I do remember, like, just nostalgic Christmas time. Like old school. Like Christmas tree. Just like this..." | | 32:50 | Tanya Tay | "I’m still in the denial phase, that it still feels surreal that he’s not here with us at the biggest event of the year..." | | 35:10 | Tanya Tay | "I hope that she knows how much love there is for her and I hope that she feels all the prayers..." | | 42:47 | Tanya Tay | "He was speaking with such conviction, and he had this charisma about him..." | | 46:54 | Neighbor Joshua | "I don't believe you quite yet on that. I need you to prove it to me." (on Charlie’s interview style) | | 57:44 | Jack Posobiec | "He was so proud that we had made the list... You really did it.."| | 58:10 | Neighbor Joshua | "Yes, Team America. And the values that undergird us..." |

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Important Timestamps

• [03:19] – “This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.” (Jack’s opening thesis)
• [04:36–07:12] – Remembrance of Charlie Kirk with Jack Jack.
• [08:10–09:10] – Discussion about the meaning of Christmas and giving.
• [14:12–18:34] – Uncle Kevin shares Norristown childhood memories and Charlie Kirk anecdotes.
• [32:50–36:06] – Tanya on processing Charlie’s loss and Erica Kirk’s strength.
• [40:13–43:59] – Tanya’s memories of meeting young Charlie.
• [45:07–48:51] – Neighbor Joshua reflects on Charlie’s intellect.
• [57:44–58:10] – Discussion of Team America values, right-coded celebration of achievement.

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Episode Tone & Style

Warm, conversational, and often playful, the episode balances heavy themes (grief, legacy, cultural battles) with family banter and nostalgic humor. Throughout, Jack and his family maintain a spirit of Christian faith and American tradition, reinforcing resilience, generosity, and mutual support in both private and public life.

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Final Blessings

The episode closes with the family gathered in prayer ([61:51]), reciting the Hail Mary and St. Michael’s Prayer, and wishing everyone a Merry Christmas, honoring Charlie Kirk’s memory, and reaffirming faith and family as the heart of American renewal.

“God bless all of you. God bless Charlie Kirk, Erica and the kids. God bless America. Merry Christmas.”
—Jack Posobiec ([61:43])

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Transcript

[Jack Posobiec]

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[Jack Posobiec]

This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare. A commentator, international social media sensation and.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Former Navy Intellig veteran.

[Jack Posobiec]

This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobic. Christ is king. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome. Bored Talk into the mic.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Bored.

[Jack Posobiec]

Today's edition of Human Events Daily. Remember, Jack, Jack, you have to talk into the mic every time or people won't hear you. So, Jack, Jack, it is time. What year is it?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

2025.

[Jack Posobiec]

Talking to the mic.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

2025.

[Jack Posobiec]

We're here doing another poso Christmas. It's the fourth Christmas special, right? Fourth Christmas special that we've done. 21, 22, 23. No, wait, I screwed that up. 22, 23, 24, 25 might be the fifth one. We'll have to double check. And Jack, Jack, we are here at Turning Point usa, aren't we? Yes. This is where. This is the very same building where we did the very first poso Christmas special, isn't it? Yeah, Mike. Yay. So, and last year, do you remember which studio we were in when we did the special?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Charlie Kirk's.

[Jack Posobiec]

Charlie Kirk's. And we're right, right across the street from that right now. And Charlie, he's not here this year, is he?

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

And how did you feel when you heard about what happened to Mr. Charlie?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Sad.

[Jack Posobiec]

Me too. And for Mr. Charlie's family?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Yes.

[Jack Posobiec]

Felt also sad.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Yes.

[Jack Posobiec]

So what do you think a good thing that we could do to try to remember Mr. Charlie would be.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

If we do. If we talk about him.

[Jack Posobiec]

If we talk about him, yeah. So what do you remember about Mr. Charlie?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

He was 31 years old.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, he's 31, Mike. 31.

[Commercial Announcer]

He was 31.

[Jack Posobiec]

And do you remember anything that he used to do?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

The Charlie Kirk show.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's right, the Charlie Kirk show. Of course. What about, what kind of places did he go?

[Neighbor Joshua]

Uh.

[Jack Posobiec]

Did he go to colleges?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Yes.

[Jack Posobiec]

And he was always talking to students and kids.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Jack Posobiec]

And who was Charlie's favorite president?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Donald J. Trump.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's right. And was he a big Trump supporter?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Yes.

[Jack Posobiec]

And on Sundays, where did Charlie go with his family?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

To church.

[Jack Posobiec]

To church. Exactly. Because Charlie loves church. Church and a church. We go to worship Jesus. Jesus, exactly.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

And God.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yes. And Jesus is God. So that's why we say Charlie is right now in God's army. Right, Right. Where is he? In heaven. He's in heaven. That's right. And do you think he's. He's watching down and keeping an eye on his family?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Of course he is.

[Jack Posobiec]

Of course he is. And making sure they're okay?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Yes.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yes. And are you gonna be. Are you gonna try to be good friends with. With his kids?

[Neighbor Joshua]

Yes.

[Jack Posobiec]

Because they're gonna need friends in this world, right?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Probably.

[Jack Posobiec]

Definitely.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Probably.

[Jack Posobiec]

Definitely.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Probably.

[Jack Posobiec]

Jack.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Jack.

[Jack Posobiec]

They will definitely need friends. And I think that's something really sweet of you to do for them. So thank you.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

No, definitely.

[Jack Posobiec]

Probably.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Definitely.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, yeah. You tricked me, Bugs Bunny. What's up, doc? So. And did I hear that you and AJ made some Christmas cards for Charlie and Erica's kids?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

How did you know?

[Jack Posobiec]

Because I gave them to them.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Excuse me?

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah. Mama had me get them from the room, and I walked over and we gave them to Erica.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

I gave them.

[Jack Posobiec]

I brought them over and gave them to you. And then you gave them to Mrs. Erica.

[Commercial Announcer]

Mommy gave it to me.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, my gosh. Okay, So I give it to Mommy, Mommy gave it to you, and you gave it to Mrs. Kirk. Mrs. Erica Kirk. That's right. And were you very happy to do that?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Yes.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, thank you very much, Jack. Jack, I'm glad that you did that. I think that's very nice of you, because. Is Christmas about getting things?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

No.

[Jack Posobiec]

What's it about?

[Commercial Announcer]

Celebrating Jesus.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Celebrating Jesus.

[Jack Posobiec]

Celebrating Jesus. And how do we celebrate Jesus?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

By going to church.

[Jack Posobiec]

You go to church and so on. Christmas, should the only thing I really care about be getting presents and getting what I want and all that?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

No.

[Jack Posobiec]

What should it be about?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

It's not about getting. It's about giving.

[Jack Posobiec]

Why is that?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Cause when you get.

[Jack Posobiec]

You can make somebody else happy.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Yes.

[Jack Posobiec]

You can make someone else happy. And isn't that what Jesus wanted? But when you give, can you make someone else happy?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah. And isn't that good? Yes, I think it is. You having fun doing this interview, Jack? Jack.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Yes.

[Jack Posobiec]

Didn't realize I'd be interviewing my son, but here we are. Well, maybe. Maybe we could add somebody else to the interview. Who should we bring next? Who do you think? I.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Let me think.

[Jack Posobiec]

We've got some other family members around, maybe.

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[Jack Posobiec]

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[Uncle Kevin]

U n d Nothing will stand in our way.

[Jack Posobiec]

And our golden age has just begun. This is Human Events with Jack Posoba. Now it's time for everyone to understand what America first truly means. Welcome to the second American Revolution. You've got some other family members around me.

[Commercial Announcer]

My. Your brother.

[Jack Posobiec]

My brother. You think we should bring Uncle Kevin on here? Stinky old Uncle Kevin?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Yes.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right. Say, come here, stinky old Uncle Kevin.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Come here, stinky old Uncle Kevin.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right. We're bringing stinky old Uncle Kevin.

[Uncle Kevin]

What?

[Jack Posobiec]

Here? He's here. He's here. On the Poso Christmas special once again. Hey, Jack. Jack, why don't you sit here? And Uncle Kevin will sit right there. There he is.

[Uncle Kevin]

I get my own hat?

[Jack Posobiec]

No. No hat for you. Talking to Mike.

[Uncle Kevin]

No hat. No hat. Okay.

[Jack Posobiec]

No all hat, no cattle.

[Uncle Kevin]

So I do have my Gulf of America hat back at the hotel.

[Jack Posobiec]

Nice. Well, we're not at the hotel, are we?

[Uncle Kevin]

That's true.

[Jack Posobiec]

It doesn't really do any good, does it? So when we're here, tposa, we're filming this on the sidelines of Amfest. And, you know, we're here in this building where Charlie started his show. Where Charlie started Turning Point. Where Charl. Where Charlie. I wouldn't not started, but you know, where Turning Point really took off was right here in this building in Phoenix, Arizona. And of course, this was the first AM fest without Charlie. And this is going to be the first.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Christmas.

[Jack Posobiec]

First Christmas without Charlie. And so. Uncle Kevin. Kev. Yeah, What? What? I wanted to. If you could just, you know, you got to meet Charlie, you got to work with Charlie a couple of times. What's. What's the story you remember about Charlie?

[Uncle Kevin]

Oh, well, there's several. Several stories I remember about Charlie, and I spoke to a few of them during the vigils that we held directly after mid September there. But yeah, just to preface it, you know, I was walking in just now in the HQ and I saw the. That one picture of the original Lake Turning Point Studio there in Chicago. It's just this little, Little building, and it reminded me of, like, you and me, man. Like, just started out, working class guys in an Italian bakery. You know, we'd be working overnights. Right. Right about now, any other time. So I just been kind of reflecting on gratitude, really, just. And all the blessings that we've had and all your success, clearly, it's opened a lot of doors for me. And, you know, Charlie was. You and Charlie had just become good friends. And I could tell, knowing you, that there was great chemistry, so that blossomed over the years. And, yeah, Charlie, and it's just bittersweet, Jack. It's just bittersweet. It's been the best AM Fest ever, really. And with. Without Charlie, but one of the stories in particular. So we were just getting the shot set up here, and we got in and out. And I think the last time I was in this building was with you and Charlie and a few other guys after amfest. And we're just doing. Oh, yeah, I remember that.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, that's right. I remember that.

[Uncle Kevin]

We were just doing some consulting, like, right over there.

[Jack Posobiec]

And, yeah, we're just kind of debriefing and chatting about how the event went.

[Uncle Kevin]

But. So Charlie was.

[Jack Posobiec]

If I remember correctly, that was going into 2024. So that was 2023, right?

[Uncle Kevin]

I think you're right.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

That was 2023. Going.

[Uncle Kevin]

It was 2024.

[Jack Posobiec]

We're sitting right over here. Yeah.

[Uncle Kevin]

Interviewed Tucker right over there.

[Jack Posobiec]

I forgot we got in.

[Uncle Kevin]

But here's the kicker, though, is that.

[Jack Posobiec]

They'Re all just kind of hanging out, chatting about plans for 2024. Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Kevin]

And Charlie never, like, he's, you know, much more close with you, but I think you ever just meet somebody you need, you're, like, kind of on the same frequency as them, but that's another thing. But Charlie asked me directly. He was like, hey, Kev, like, good to see you. Brought me right in, you know, and it's like, what do you want from in and out?

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Uncle Kevin]

And now we got in and out here, too, so it's just like, kind of surreal to be in the same building, eating the same food. But it's like, wow, it's kind of cloud.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, Charlie. Charlie loved his in and out. Jack. Jack, do you like in and out?

[Commercial Announcer]

Yes.

[Jack Posobiec]

No. Very good. Thank you for your contribution.

[Uncle Kevin]

And, yeah, I don't know. That's pretty much the gist of it. You know, Charlie's always been just very gracious with me and. And what I've been Telling everybody else is he's a man of integrity and character, like Charlie, aside from if we're literally eating. Like, he was always on the mission, always, like, breaking bread. Well, breaking bread. But it. He inspired me by being like, all right, like, basically, like, this is cool. We're hanging out, but, like, what are we recording next? Or what are we going to talk about? You know, when I would see him in West Palm beach at the studio there with Rav and down there.

[Jack Posobiec]

You were down there a little bit as well, at Mar a Lago during the transition period. And Charlie was running around all that. All that time.

[Uncle Kevin]

That's true. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. I was bumping into Elon. Elon's there.

[Jack Posobiec]

Elon, Charlie, everyone.

[Uncle Kevin]

Yeah, that's true. I remember witnessing that with you and them. And we were just talking about Doge creating Doge.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, that's right. So being there at Mar a Lago on. On the terrace where Doge was, didn't even have a name for it, really. Well, I mean, Eli made the name for it as a joke, really, and, you know, like a half joke. And then we said, no, you know what? Let's actually turn this to a real thing. And. And. And Charlie was a huge part of that. Charlie said, let's do it. Let's go all in.

[Uncle Kevin]

And that's. That's just the one observation that.

[Neighbor Joshua]

And.

[Uncle Kevin]

And one of the reasons I. I love Charlie and respect him is because, like, even then, like, you guys didn't say, like, hey, like, you know, you got to get out of here. Like, it was. It was just amazing. You know, I feel like I sometimes have some good ideas and some insights, but to be on that level with, you know, the president himself and Elon Musk and Charlie and everyone else around and you. It just means a lot. You know, it means a lot. And then on top of everything, originally, like, what I tell people as turning point didn't exist when you and I were in college. So that's why I love being able to come back here and give back and encourage young college students and, you know, kind of spread an olive branch to anybody else. That is. There's, you know, just a lot of infighting lately, and I feel like Charlie would kind of be that guy, too, just at least hear people out, and especially at M Fest, so. So I try and give that back in his spirit and his stride, but definitely, you know, keep it on. It's all about, you know, college kids, the future and all giving them a different way to go instead of these Indoctrination camps. You know, when it started.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right, right. And, you know, since it is Christmas, I suppose. Uncle Kev, can you remember any. Any Norristown Christmas stories that maybe we could tell Jack. Jack, while we're here?

[Uncle Kevin]

Oh, boy. Norristown Christmas stories. Yeah, it was always some snowball ones.

[Jack Posobiec]

You know, snowball fights and, you know.

[Uncle Kevin]

Building the forts on the corners.

[Jack Posobiec]

Building forts. Jack. Jack. We used to always make snowball forts or snow forts on the quarter. And then when cars would come by, we throw. Well, Kevin would throw snowballs at them. I never did that, though. Never ever.

[Uncle Kevin]

Right, right.

[Jack Posobiec]

But then when the car. When the guy. But then do you remember the time that that guy stopped the car and got out? He was like, what are you kids doing?

[Uncle Kevin]

Yes. Yes.

[Jack Posobiec]

He goes sledding up at the hill. At the. At the medical center there.

[Uncle Kevin]

Yeah, the medical center. Well, then. And Valley Forge to end.

[Jack Posobiec]

Of course.

[Uncle Kevin]

Yes. We were. We were just going over Valley Forge the other day. But nor. I don't know. I mean, honestly. Honestly, Jack. I mean, some of the. I don't have the best nars town stories, you know, I remember a lot of the bad things, you know, and eventually, like, why we moved and whatnot. But I do remember, like, just nostalgic Christmas time. Like old school. Like Christmas tree. Just like this, you know, and the divider with the stained glass doors on that childhood home.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, the thing. The problem was, and I've told Jack Zack about this, the reason that we lost our town was because of crime. It was because of Section 8. It was because of illegal aliens coming in. And I tell Jack, Jack, there's bad guys. Just bad guys took over the town and we had to leave because it got so bad.

[Uncle Kevin]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

And that's. Mom got us out.

[Uncle Kevin]

Yeah. Long story short, I mean, we grew up in the back alley. We had a milk crate, you know, nailed to a telephone pole to play basketball in. And then there would be dog fights in the back alley. And then in the front. In the front of the street, we would see people just fighting on the front lawns and stuff. I remember specifically one day, me and dad just, like, peering through the shades out front because there was a loud argument and people were fighting and. Shouldn't have to live that way. No, shouldn't have to live that way.

[Jack Posobiec]

And that's, you know, that's one of the reasons that mom and dad got us out. Because Jack, Jack. See, the bad guys totally took over our town.

[Uncle Kevin]

We had to leave.

[Commercial Announcer]

You can you tell me another story?

[Jack Posobiec]

About what? What kind of story. Do you want to hear? Jack?

[Commercial Announcer]

Jack anyone?

[Jack Posobiec]

And any story. What do you mean, any story in. Nor in Norristown? Well, in Doristown, I used to. Where we lived, 1418 Powell street, was the.

[Uncle Kevin]

Maybe the monster icicles that you used to get.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, those are just ice C. You can get ice CS anywhere. We used to live about three blocks away from the library. So when we were little, we could go and walk. We could just walk out of our house, turn and walk past the hospital, and then walk two more blocks. And then, boom, the library was right there. So we could walk to the library, get books whenever we wanted. And I used to have a wagon, and I would take the wagon with me and take it all the way down to the library and fill it up with books and then come home and read them all.

[Uncle Kevin]

It's true.

[Jack Posobiec]

I love the book so much.

[Uncle Kevin]

And you used to be able to do it, you know, without having to worry about if you're walking with somebody or, you know.

[Jack Posobiec]

No.

[Neighbor Joshua]

Yeah.

[Uncle Kevin]

Unsupervised mom would let me go. More high trust. Society slowly declined.

[Jack Posobiec]

And. And Jack. Jack, we had. And then at the other corner, we had Fardman's Pharmacy.

[Uncle Kevin]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

And we had Jackson's, which is a convenience store. So at Farben's Pharmacy, you could buy medicine, you could buy. You could buy cards, and you could also buy comic books. And I love buying comic books there. Then there's laundromat. And then next to Jackson's store. And then in Jackson's store, guess what they had video games. And you could play video games and pinball. And I remember the day they got more combat.

[Uncle Kevin]

I got another one, too. I got another one. The. The tin can phones. Remember? We used to do that with the neighbors. Did you ever do that, Jack? Jack? You take two empty soup cans with the string between them. We gotta show them. It's. So we had a matter of science.

[Jack Posobiec]

We had the red caves across from us. And we would do. We would do tin can phones. And you can make a phone out of two tin cans. And a string. And a string.

[Uncle Kevin]

Does the Bible say, love your neighbor, Jack? Jack? Yes, it does. And we could eventually return to creating neighborhoods where we can become friends and love our actual neighbors.

[Commercial Announcer]

Tell me a story about a snowball fight.

[Jack Posobiec]

A snowball fight. We would just have, you know, there were so many kids around that we could get into a snowball fight with the kids on my block versus the kids from the other block. And sometimes we would wait until they weren't ready, until they weren't looking. And then we sneak up behind them and throw all the snowballs at them. And then we'd run away before they could find us so they wouldn't know who attacked them. So we'd have these little snowball fight wars with all the kids in the neighborhood. It was a lot of fun.

[Commercial Announcer]

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[Uncle Kevin]

Today, they talk about influencers.

[Jack Posobiec]

These are influencers and they're friends of mine.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Jack.

[Uncle Kevin]

Where's Jack?

[Jack Posobiec]

He's got a great job. Well, Uncle Kevin, I think I'm looking over here. Do we have time? Is it time to bring our. Our next special guests on? Is it time? It looks like it might be, Uncle Kev. If you don't.

[Uncle Kevin]

Hey, Merry Christmas, y'.

[Neighbor Joshua]

All.

[Uncle Kevin]

Peace on earth.

[Jack Posobiec]

Sneaking out.

[Uncle Kevin]

Christ the savior is born.

[Jack Posobiec]

We've got some more special guests that we want to join because it is, of course, the lovely Tanya Tay, and of course, Mr. AJ. Jack. Jack, help your mama with her microphone. Remember, Mama, you got to talk right into it.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Hello, everybody. Hope you don't mind me bringing a little Santa's helper here.

[Jack Posobiec]

Hi, aj. You want to say hi, aj? So AJ had a little stomach bug. A little. He got caught the Infest flu a little bit. So Ag might not be quite as talkative on this Christmas special. Jack, Jack, what do you want to say about that? You were a little sick, too, right?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

A little.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, I know. But AJ's been really good, and he's came and he came out and said a prayer with us, didn't he? He did. He absolutely did. And, aj, you know what? I think you did a really great job when you came out on stage at amfest, so thank you for that. I'm proud of you.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

I'm proud of you.

[Jack Posobiec]

And not only that, you said all the words of all your prayers, and you remembered every single one perfectly. And aj, I even Have a video that Nana and Pop Pop sent me of you singing the Ave Maria. Did you know that? Can you say these to us? No, not right now. Well, not. We won't put him on the spot. But I have the video, so we can add it in post, put it.

[Commercial Announcer]

In the microphone, and then people can hear it.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, no. Maybe we'll put it on later. But, aj, were you scared when you were out there with all those people? No. Why not? Who's not scary? No, no, no, no. It's okay. Don't beat up the microphones.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

I've heard that the Poso boys are the bravest boys in the world.

[Jack Posobiec]

What are you two of the bravest boys in the world? Yes, sir. Yes, it is. Here, Jack. Here. You can sit in my lap. You'll be closer to the microphone, so. Yeah, but, aj, here's something that they don't know about us, about me and you, is they don't know that me and you are on a team.

[Neighbor Joshua]

Aren't we?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Yes.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yes, we are. Can we. Should we tell everyone what our team is? Okay.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

It's a special secret team.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, I think AJ's about done. We got a little out of him.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

We lost him fast, by the way.

[Jack Posobiec]

Team Fast. And Jack. Jack and Mama are on Team Slow.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

We're on a team Smart.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, no, you're not.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Totally Team Smart.

[Jack Posobiec]

Team Tricky. You don't even know about that. What?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

I've never heard about that team. Me and stinky old Uncle Kevin are on Team Rocky Jumpers.

[Jack Posobiec]

The Rocky Jumpers? What? Are that true? What are you talking about? Uncle Kevin? So. So, dear, let me ask you this. You know, you're out here with. With me, with Jack, Jack with aj, and. But at the same time, you got to spend some time with Erica backstage. A little bit of time. And you've been with her in this time, you know, since everything happened with Charlie and obviously with. With her. Talk to me a little bit about just your thoughts and feelings on this Christmas being. And. And we were talking about it before the first Christmas without Charlie.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Whenever somebody asks me about how it feels to not have Charlie around, I answer that I'm still in the denial phase, that it still feels surreal that he's not here with us at the biggest event of the year and keep.

[Jack Posobiec]

Waiting for him to just, like, come around the corner.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

It feels like there. Just give it a minute, and we'll see Charlie walking on stage with all the sparkles, the biggest sparkles light up the stage, and he'll be there saying, hey, everybody. And Just go on with his speech and just keep waiting for that moment. And I couldn't even imagine what Erica has to go through, walking the stage, going with the tea and through all the little details, talking to everybody, having her kids at home, decorating the Christmas tree and not having your friend, her dear husband, the father of your children not around. It's she. Has she shown so much strength dealing with it? I don't know if I ever could be half as strong had something ever so terrible happened. And I truly admire that, that she managed to be an example to all of us, showing that we, we have to put ourselves together and get put on the armor, the armor of God and get through that phase.

[Jack Posobiec]

Amen. Amen to that. And if you could say anything, and I know you talked to Erica, but if you could say anything to her on this Christmas, what would that be? Hey, hey, hey. Stop.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

I hope that she knows how much love there is for her and I hope that she feels all the prayers for her and her family. And I hope that she keeps doing exactly what she's doing right now, but even with more determination, with more confidence, knowing that there is the army of Turning Point USA students, high schoolers, ambassadors, contributors, sponsors who are 100% behind her, who are so willing to continue what Charlie started.

[Jack Posobiec]

Amen. And, and I know she appreciates you being a good friend to her and.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

And that's the least I could do.

[Jack Posobiec]

And everything we could do.

[Commercial Announcer]

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[Jack Posobiec]

Where's Jack?

[Uncle Kevin]

Where is he? Jack, I want to see you.

[Jack Posobiec]

Great job Jack.

[Neighbor Joshua]

Thank you.

[Jack Posobiec]

What a job you do.

[Uncle Kevin]

You know, we have an incredible thing.

[Jack Posobiec]

We're always talking about the fake news.

[Commercial Announcer]

And the bad, but we have guys.

[Jack Posobiec]

And these are the guys who've been getting public. So sweetheart, you know I gotta put you on the spot.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Oh, no.

[Jack Posobiec]

Since it is Christmas time and. And we're trying to remember Charlie at the same time. I don't know if I ever asked you this on air, but what is a, you know, a Charlie Story or, you know, a Charlie moment that you remember? You know, either. Either, you know, with me or on air, off air, Anything that, you know, one thing. What's that? What's something that really sticks with you?

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

The one story that I keep going back to is when we first met him, and it was in Chicago. It was. Gosh, feels like forever ago. And I remember meeting him. We got introduced, and you were just kind of getting in a political movement.

[Jack Posobiec]

We had just gotten married, and this was, like, I want to say a week or two after we got married, and. But it was before we went on our honeymoon, Right. And it was around Thanksgiving, and this was. It was really snowy. It was like, super, super snowy.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

I don't remember all those details, but.

[Jack Posobiec]

I remember it's incredibly snowy. Like, we landed at o', Hare, and then we got.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Oh, yes, yes, yes. Okay. It's coming back to me.

[Jack Posobiec]

We drove out and we stopped at that diner, and. And then we met Charlie there at this. It was just like a local.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Local thing. And.

[Jack Posobiec]

But I think he was there because he was going to visit his parents afterwards.

[Commercial Announcer]

Okay, okay.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Yeah, that makes sense. And there was a room. What do you think? Maybe 300 people?

[Jack Posobiec]

I. @ least barely. I think it was before. I think it was before he even came to Arizona. I think he was still. One Turning Point was still out of.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Illinois. Right. So I remember we just got introduced to him. We chatted briefly, and then he got on stage, and he was trying to pitch this idea that he has this vision about creating a student organization, and he's gonna get on campuses, he'll try to talk to students and get them to become more conservative. Because he was saying that our colleges are becoming so liberal. And I just keep going back thinking about that moment and at first when you met him, because, I mean, he was such a young kid. I don't know if he was 20 at the time. I mean, you just see this kid and you're like. And then we heard him on stage, and then I remember thinking to myself, like, you know what he would.

[Jack Posobiec]

Have been about 22, 23, something like.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

That. Yeah. Thinking to myself, you know, he's up to something. And looking.

[Jack Posobiec]

Back. So when you say that. And this is. This is pre Erica Charlie. So, I mean.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

The. You know, it was the very.

[Jack Posobiec]

Early Charlie, but did you think when you say you saw him and you thought about it, did you think that he could do it? Or were you thinking like, ah, it'll never.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Happen? He was speaking with such conviction, and he had this charisma about him. He got me to believe in him. At that moment, I really believed what he was saying, and there was this spark in him, and his vision seemed to be so clear, and he was going on and on about him, and I felt like every person in the room at that moment believed that he could do it. Fast forward it 10, 15 years later, and here we are sitting in Turning Point usa, And I just keep going back to that moment when we first met him. And it.

[Jack Posobiec]

Just. Every day in.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Chicago. Yes. It was so special. It was really special.

[Jack Posobiec]

Moment. You say, jack.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Jack. It couldn't have been 11.

[Jack Posobiec]

Years. He's fact checking you in real time. I.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Wasn'T. Here's your son.

[Jack Posobiec]

Story. She's just telling the story. It's okay. The point is, it was a long time ago. Yes, it was. And it feels like a lifetime.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Ago. It really does. It.

[Jack Posobiec]

Really. Well, here's what we're going to do. I want to, you know, I want to bring in one of the. One of the neighbors here, if that's okay, real quickly. And I'll. I'll. I'll let Jack. Jack and you take a. Take a quick break and check out. Check out AJ I know he wasn't feeling too well. Let's see if we can. See if we can get him back to full health here, because I want to bring in. I hear a knock on the door. I hear. I said I heard a knock on the door. Oh, yeah, it's neighbor Joshua. There he is. Hey, neighbor Joshua is here. Oh, my goodness. What are you doing here on a snowy Christmas.

[Neighbor Joshua]

Day? Merry.

[Jack Posobiec]

Christmas. I am falling out of your pocket there. Oh, someone just took a nosedive onto the chair, I.

[Uncle Kevin]

Think. Let's.

[Jack Posobiec]

See. Who's.

[Neighbor Joshua]

That? This is. This is Roscoe. Lego Roscoe. He accompanies me on my various adventures and trips when I'm away from the children. So we're just going to put Lego Roscoe right here. He's rocking the Santa Claus hat. Every time I go on an adventure, he gets into some sort of trouble, and I take pictures of his antics for the children. It's something that every parent.

[Jack Posobiec]

Understands. We've just done am Fest. It's Christmas time. Talk to me about. And. And you got to meet Charlie through when we did Unhumans, and then later he did the blurb for Bulletproof I'll just say this. When we first introduced you to Charlie, he was like, who's this guy is, you know, this, this ghostwriter guy, etc. But man, when you guys started going, I could really see that he.

[Neighbor Joshua]

Was.

[Jack Posobiec]

Very, just very locked minds with you. Because Charlie could sense that intellect and he could see that, oh, this is someone that I can have that intellectual riposte with. And I could. I could see that he really, really enjoyed interviewing you. I could see that right away from Charlie in a way that, you know, there'd be times where, let's just say. Let's just say at events where Charlie could be a little distracted, pulled in different directions. It is what it is. But I could really tell that with you specifically, he was locked.

[Neighbor Joshua]

In. He was, yes. He and I both have had evangelical apologetics background where you studied the various ways to defend the faith, let's say the Christian worldview. I have that background, being homeschooled. And he of course has that background from his own training and what I appreciated about him, unlike in a lot of interviews that we've done, that I've done before, that Lego Roscoe has done, I'm sure in his little plastic world, the interviewer will take for granted what the interviewee says, like, oh, that's interesting. Next question. And then they go on from there. But there are several times in the first interview with Turley where his reply back was, in a kind way, I don't believe you quite yet on that. I need you to prove it to.

[Jack Posobiec]

Me.

[Neighbor Joshua]

Yeah. Was.

[Jack Posobiec]

His. He would challenge you. He would challenge.

[Neighbor Joshua]

You. Yes, which I appreciate. I've only ever gotten that once before in an interview, ever. With. With. With someone, a gentleman named James Altucher, who has one of the most popular podcasts over the last, what, 15 years now. And it's just a. And I've done hundreds upon hundreds of interviews at this point on books and publishing and our books and whatnot. And it's just a rare response. But there's one particular moment where the three of us shared during the first interview on the Unhumans book, in which we were talking about the overthrow of Russia by leftists and how there was effectively this Bolshevik movement of revolutionary radical, far left wing individuals in Russia, and they had all gathered in effectively one building, one place. They were all there. And the Russian army, the White Russian army under the Tsar, effectively did nothing to stop it. They allowed the violence to continue to build. And in the midst of this commentary, Charlie cut us both off and he said, I feel like something's about to pop, something's about to bounce. I can feel it, he said. Do you remember that moment? And I had a record scratch moment of internal dialogue in my head at that moment and I thought, oh, that feels really important. I need to remember that. Of him saying that, predicting that. And of course the book predicts and explains that we are in a period of revolutionary violence and upheaval within our culture, within our society that's being run by radical left wing individuals who are, who are thoroughly anti Christian, thoroughly anti Christmas, thoroughly anti parenthood, anti the joy of simple moments that we all want to share. And they want to take that away. And they took that away from Charlie's family for the rest of their.

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[Jack Posobiec]

O u n D Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get.

[Commercial Announcer]

It. And he's been my friend right.

[Jack Posobiec]

From the beginning of this whole beautiful event and we're going to turn it around and make our country great.

[Uncle Kevin]

Again.

[Jack Posobiec]

Amen. And you know, little did we know that on the day the book was slated to come out that Steve Bannon, who wrote the foreword, would be hauled off to federal prison. Ten days after the book came out, a radical tried to assassinate Donald Trump. And a year and change after the book came out that our friend would be assassinated. And you know, we were right here in this room and I was sitting just over there when I got interviewed by cnn and they asked me, they said, are we a civil war? And I said, well, we are facing asymmetric civil warfare, my friends in a box. And that didn't happen by accident. And as, as horrible as it is, that's exactly what we had said was coming. But let's shift off of that. But are there any, any lighter moments? Any lighter stories with With Charlie.

[Neighbor Joshua]

That you can remember, there were several moments where it was as if you were interviewing him during our conversations. And he was. He was riffing, he was going off, and it was. He was in his element. And what I appreciated about him, both in the interviews, I think he interviewed us maybe three times across the two.

[Jack Posobiec]

Books. There were some remote interviews we did as.

[Neighbor Joshua]

Well. Yes, that's right. On Humans and also the Bulletproof book. And it seemed as though he thoroughly enjoyed the experience. So often people who are podcasters, who are influencers with a capital I, they go through the motions. They kind of, let's say, lock into a mental zone of what they're thinking about, what they're focused on, what they're working on. It's like the next thing and then the next thing and then the next thing. But he was fully present and in the moment. One of my favorite memories of his was I was at one of his fundraising presentations in which he was basically pitching for donors for A Turning Point. And it was.

[Jack Posobiec]

Incredible. What were you doing there? You don't have any.

[Neighbor Joshua]

Money. I'll rest that case later. In any case, Charlie was like a tech CEO, venture founder, surrounded by venture capitalists who was absolutely in his storytelling element. And he was going through a slideshow, running through it, and you could see people in the audience given the, let's say, the percentage of gray heads of all the heads in the room. This is the room for Charlie to be in. And he was going through the successes of Turning Point, going by the numbers, and he was saying what the numbers mean. And then there was one point after going through the various numbers of we flipped this and we did this and here's what the campuses did and blah, blah, blah. He ran through a bunch of headlines of hit pieces about him personally. Look at what they've said about me. This is what they said about Turning Point. Look at this here. Going through the various slurs and claims and insults. And he said, that's how, you know, we're doing the right thing. Can I put you down for 5,000 or 10,000, by the.

[Jack Posobiec]

Way? He used to send me those every single time it happened. He loved the Media Matters hit pieces and daily write ups and, you know, whoever it was. And I remember I used to bust him. I said, charlie, how much are you paying to Media Matters to get them to be your own personal PR department? Because, you know, they'd write things up or like, Charlie Kirk claims the DEI is racist against white people. And it's like, yeah, it is. I mean, just like Something where we say it and we look at it as a good thing, and they say it as so horrible and beyond the pale kind of, you know, kind of headline, or charlie Kirk says that, you know, women shouldn't be in athletic competitions with men. You know, it's ridiculous things. And yet people are saying, charlie Kirk, here it is. Here he's fighting. Here he's effective. And you're so right that that's exactly what it was. But I do want to add something that I don't know if I ever told you before that. Do you remember that tweet, when Unhumans made the New York Times bestseller list that. That he wrote and posted for us? You remember that? That he was so proud that we had made the list. And I remember him coming to me and saying, you made the list. You actually did it. And he said, you know. And I remember he said this. You know, you didn't ask me. He goes, jack, you didn't ask me to endorse it. You didn't ask Turning Point to buy copies. Which is true, by the way, despite what anyone tells you out there. He said, you guys did that all on your own. You really did that on your own. I said, charlie, that was the test. That was the test to see if we could do it and actually do it on our own. He said, you really did it. He was so proud. He was so happy, maybe a little steamed that his own book that.

[Neighbor Joshua]

Year didn't have the list in 2020. The MAGA.

[Jack Posobiec]

Doctrine. He had MAGA doctrine, but not his 2024. So that would. We had a little. Little competition, you know, friendly, alpha, you know, a couple of guys having a competition. But he was. He was so happy. I think he was so happy that we got out there. And I don't know if I've ever told you that, and I wanted to make sure I did say that, that that wasn't some form tweet that he was really, really happy about, that.

[Neighbor Joshua]

He was that kind of.

[Jack Posobiec]

Guy. He was sort of totally that kind of.

[Neighbor Joshua]

Guy. Celebrate other people's celebrations. Very much.

[Jack Posobiec]

So. And that's celebrate excellence, celebrate greatness, celebrate.

[Neighbor Joshua]

Achievement. And that is. That is right wing coded.

[Jack Posobiec]

100. Exactly. Is that we're going to be competitive and, you know, my book is going to sell more than your Georgia. You're so competitive, but then when someone wins, you shake hands and you're happy because at the same time, we're all on the same team at the end of the.

[Neighbor Joshua]

Day. Yes, Team America. And the values that undergird Us which have somehow become exclusively the domain of the right. Heritage, tradition, law, order, kindness. As much as they like to say empathy and decency, generally speaking, the left is empathy free and decency.

[Jack Posobiec]

Free.

[Neighbor Joshua]

Indeed. And it is those of us who have this. Of course, today we had it's recording of this. We had that fantastic moment with Target, you know, Target grandma, and how she was being harassed by, obviously a leftist with the profanities and the attacking her independently, trying to get her fired from her job. They were just doing her job. And Jeannie just responded with simple graciousness and said no, no, no to the various accusations about Charlie and about her, and simply just turned her back and walked away. And that was the end of it. You know, you can just tell the left no. You can just say no. You can just say no and then smile and turn your back and walk.

[Jack Posobiec]

Away. And she was so polite. But you could tell in that moment, the Target genie was. You could tell she was pretty tough. I think you could tell that she was pretty tough in that moment and that she really. She stood her ground. She stood her ground. She defended Charlie. And, you know, I got to be backstage there for that moment where she met.

[Neighbor Joshua]

Erica.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yes. And that was an incredible moment. And they must.

[Neighbor Joshua]

Have. That was a very powerful hug. I was right there. I was behind.

[Jack Posobiec]

You. Oh, that's right. That's right. My gosh. And we were both there. We're both there. And something that some people have noticed as well from Jeannie's Facebook, and she talks about this, that she had. She had also actually lost her husband years before. And so what are the odds? They were actually both widows. And in that moment, they got to meet and share a bond that I don't. I mean, part of a club that obviously nobody wants to ever be in. And everyone. It's kind of like they say this about gold star families. It's a club that nobody ever wants to be in and that every single person would leave if given the chance. And what are the odds that they were the part of that same.

[Neighbor Joshua]

Club? So often, so much that happens in this story of life does appear to be scripted where there are these unexpected flashpoints. Just like it's fiction, like it's being scripted. People will say, oh, it's almost.

[Jack Posobiec]

Like there's an author of reality or the universe or something like that. And speaking of the author of the universe, I'm getting the. I'm getting the moment call for to return the family back. So let's see if we can get Uncle Kevin. We can get mama. We can get Jack. Jack. And maybe AJ if he's feeling a little better. He's. He's a little sleepy. I just grab him. Let him sleep. Let him sleep. Come have him come out. Have him come out. Let the sleepy guy come out. You're coming back, Jack. Have you met.

[Uncle Kevin]

Roscoe? I.

[Neighbor Joshua]

Was. You give him a.

[Uncle Kevin]

Handshake? I was just on my way to Creed.

[Jack Posobiec]

Miss. No, on your way to. On your way to creed miss?

[Uncle Kevin]

Yeah. Oh.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah. And let's see. Can we. Can we get little aj? Can we get little aj? Where is he? Where is he? He's a little sleepy, but that's.

[Neighbor Joshua]

Okay. I can give Tanya my.

[Jack Posobiec]

Chair. The.

[Neighbor Joshua]

Ch.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah. Okay. The children nestled all slug in their beds. Visions of sugar plums danced in their heads. He's got visions of sugar plums dancing in his head right now. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas from the posos. From neighbor Joshua, from all of us to all of.

[Uncle Kevin]

You. Thank you.

[Jack Posobiec]

Everybody. God bless all of you. God bless Charlie, Kirk, Erica and the kids. God bless America. Merry Christmas. Jack.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Jack.

[Jack Posobiec]

What? How do we start? Hail Mary, Inomene Padre et fili et spiritu. Santiamen, Ave Maria Dominus. Fructos ventres Santa Maria, Mother day. Amen. Paternoster quiescentralis Sant Viceter noman tuum Advenia regnum. Nostra. One more. St. Michael, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, O prince of the heavenly host. Did the power of God passed into hell? Satan? All the evil spirits wander throughout the world seeking the ruin of.

[Jack Posobiec's Son (Jack Jr.)]

Souls.

[Jack Posobiec]

Amen. Amen. Merry Christmas, everyone. God bless you. Keep God bless you center of everything you.

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[Jack Posobiec]

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