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Jack Posobiec
This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
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Social media sensation and former navy intelligence.
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Veteran this is human events with your.
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Host jack posobec christ is king my.
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George W. Bush (archive clips)
Fellow citizens at this hour american and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm iraq to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger on my orders coalition forces have begun striking selected targets of military importance to undermine saddam hussein's ability to wage war i take the threat very seriously i take the fact that he develops weapons of mass destruction.
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Joshua Lysek
Very seriously twenty percent of the total.
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Jack Posobiec
Amount added to the us national debt between two thousand one and twenty twelve were just the cost of the wars in iraq and afghanistan obviously the war in iraq was a big fat mistake.
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George W. Bush (archive clips)
The main reason we went into iraq at the time was we thought he had weapons of mass destruction it turns.
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Out he didn't central baghdad this crowd.
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Deeply insulting arab gesture it looks like.
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Jack Posobiec
They might be coming down few seconds saddam will be executed before he manages to complete his last prayer the shiite security guard opens the scaffold major combat.
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George W. Bush (archive clips)
Operations in iraq have ended in the battle of iraq the united states and our allies have prevailed.
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Jack Posobiec
The individual was strapped with explosives but me and my fellow three marines that was injured had.
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News Reporter
No idea he was there five years after the war began the american death toll has reached at least four thousand the military says the latest deaths occurred sunday a roadside bomb killed four us soldiers in southern baghdad president bush said.
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Jack Posobiec
That he will leave washington next week.
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George W. Bush (archive clips)
With a great sense of accomplishment do you feel the same way i do.
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Jack Posobiec
Ladies and gentlemen welcome aboard to tales of the regime change iraq the war that rewired the world in march of two thousand three the united states launched one of the most consequential gambles in modern history remove saddam hussein remake iraq and reshape the entire middle east in our image washington believed that it was striking a blow against tyranny instead it struck a match in a room full of gasoline because the iraq war wasn't just another intervention it was a blueprint for how intelligence ideology and hubris fused into a foreign policy revolution that detonated across the world and then first came the certainty sodom had weapons of mass destruction not maybe not probably definitely that confidence came from the same intelligence pipeline that had spent a decade overestimating soviet strength underestimating al qaeda and misreading afghanistan as we learned in that episode but now in the shadow of nine eleven no one wanted to question anything and then came bush's great theory the grand idea remove a dictator and democracy will bloom baghdad today damascus tomorrow tehran the day after a wave of liberation radiating across the region a new middle east built not only by its people but by the design sheets of washington policymakers but as we know iraq was not a blank canvas it was a nation of rival sects tribes militias clans and loyalties that went deeper than any constitution written in the green zone and the moment saddam's regime fell the moment the baath state dissolved all of those forces that saddam hussein had held in check erupted at once every neocon assumption collapsed every projection failed the war for iraq wasn't fought in neat phrases it was fought in the streets the mosques the marketplaces and the neighborhoods where neocon planners never bothered to look and out of that chaos came insurgency sectarian war al qaeda in iraq and eventually the rise of something the world had never seen the islamic state at least not seen in hundreds of years the iraq war didn't just topple a dictator it remapped alliances rewired global politics destabilized entire regions birthed movements that would shape the century and at every step the same pattern emerged an intervention sold by intelligence powered by neocon ideology and undone by unintended consequences and folks let's be serious america lost trillions in the middle east trillions of dollars which devastated our own economy which led washington to turn to massive financial printing which devastated the average american devastated the middle class and not to mention the amount of blood that we spent that american boys went over to die in the sand for a lie that's what we're talking about today and you need to be dead serious because this is dead serious and there are people right now want to do another one of these they say let's go try it in iran works so well in iraq let's go try it somewhere else because it works so well no the same ideology that led to that war still exists today and we need to fight it with every breath that we have and i know that i certainly will neocons haven't left you need to be america first and these are the reasons why we are america first this is iraq the war that rewired the world i'm jack posobic and today we are stepping into the war that defined a generation and revealed just how far superpower can fall when it believes that reality itself will bend to its good.
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George W. Bush (archive clips)
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Jack Posobiec
Disarm iraq and dismantle the iraqi regime is fully underway.
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Joshua Lysek
But here's the twist saddam hussein wasn't always america's enemy in fact at one point the united states quietly supported him with money intelligence and.
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Jack Posobiec
Political cover all right folks jack posobic we're back tales of regime change the war that rewired the world iraq now many people ask why was it that the united states chose to evade iraq after nine eleven two years later we see this invasion at the time the bush administration lied and said that saddam hussein was involved in with nine eleven just wasn't true we also found that they said he was involved with weapons of mass destruction also was not true and in fact the united states had backed saddam hussein in his war against iran in the nineteen eighties we had been his ally but then along came something called the kuwait war saddam goes in for the oil fields and the us launches the gulf war against him he says whoa thought we were friends guess not but then something interesting happens in the region in the united states and new leaders begin to emerge specifically after america's victory in desert storm and people realized wait perhaps the us government can do more in the middle east not just establish a permanent military blueprint or footprint in the persian gulf but a new doctrine some call it the project for the new american century but there was something that even came before that in nineteen ninety six a policy memo was prepared for incoming israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and we'd spoken about this on the show previously and and this was written interestingly by a group of american neoconservative policy advisors several of which would later become central figures in the bush administration and associated with pnac that's that project for the new american century and this was called a clean break a new strategy for securing the region here's what's interesting the clean break specifically called for the destabilization of what were what were labeled hostile regimes and called for removing saddam hussein from power in iraq it called for the rollback of the government of syria the rollback of hezbollah and then eventually the rollback of iran then to strengthen ties with turkey and jordan to encircle syria they laid this out as a policy a strong policy for israel in the middle east but then interestingly many of those same advisors began to apply this policy to the united states and in the wake of nine eleven you see these policies being enacted by the bush administration and we're told that this was to we're told that this was to defend america in the wake of nine eleven we must restabilize and reshape the entire middle east but what's interesting is that they were saying it even before nine eleven because in nineteen ninety eight they sent president clinton a demand that said remove saddam hussein from power not someday now it's not fringe these were people who were later at the top of the pentagon the top of the vice president's office and the national security council so by the time bush took office in two thousand one the blueprint for the iraq war was already drawn and of course the first domino whose fall was supposed to unleash a democratic wave from the tigris to tehran and of course that was the theory joshua lysek i want to get you in on this you've studied this stuff you've looked into it this isn't conspiracy talk this is actually how our government functioned in those years isn't it that's correct yes.
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Joshua Lysek
And there is a strange bit of sleight of hand amongst the bush administration and its allies and advisors from two thousand one to two thousand two two thousand three leading up to the invasion of iraq and when we go and look at president george w bush's speeches the policy the think tanks that were surrounding him the context of afghanistan was this is a once off it is in the context it's going to be retribution for nine eleven there's not going to be long term regime change and this was explicit policy this was explicit speech material we go back and we look at two thousand one two thousand two and then suddenly we see a strange turn of events where his advisors and then president george w bush himself began talking almost out of nowhere about this axis of evil it's almost like marketing or advertising where but wait there's more and the military industrial complex then needed to be reapplied it was too successful too quick oh but behind al qaeda behind the taliban is a threat that's far worse than anything we've seen before now clean break advises israel bibi netanyahu specifically prime minister at the time advises them to engage in preemptive policy that's where we hit them so they can't hit us and that is the argument that was used by the bush administration with this actually we're going to have way more nine eleven s if we don't stop saddam hussein because that was still part and parcel with the american patriotic experience right we all got to come together and be patriotic citizens and oppose those who oppose us and that language began to emerge where we have to fight them over there so we don't fight them over here again and have more of these terrorist interventions and imagine just how awful it would.
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Jack Posobiec
Be go ahead jack oh no just again on that iraq did not attack the united states and in fact the people who were who were on those planes on nine eleven and were not okay and so people understand the for the scope of this project joshua and i are not discussing nine eleven itself because we are focused on regime changes the same way non humans we were focused on people say when we wrote on humans people were asking us why didn't you you know mention certain things and i said well they were outside the scope of our project and we were focused on marxist revolution specifically at that time there were other places where marxists came to power and marxist regimes that just didn't follow the model that we were looking at so but what's interesting is of course nine eleven most of the hijackers were of course from saudi arabia they were not from any of the countries that are labeled in this document and that yeah an egyptian right and khalid sheikh mohammed was a was kuwaiti so who was the planner and who was down at at gitmo i did not get the chance to meet him by the way but for the record i could have if i wanted to go to the his trials but i never never did and i had work to do so the key here right the key here that's very interesting i think for everyone is to understand that it's very clear iraq did not attack the united states and for people who and the fact that i need to say that that i even need to pause and take this second to say it over and over just shows you how propagandized this time was because these lies still exist even to this very day where people will try to think well they were our enemy they were our enemy they didn't attack the united states we beat them in the gulf war after we intervened on the side of kuwait again they also did not attack the united states they attacked kuwait which is again a separate country and prior to that we were the ones who had propped up saddam hussein working with him in the reagan administration when bush was vice president president propping him up as a bulwark against iran and then suddenly you just have this total shift in policy on saddam hussein where someone who thought he was an ally of the us someone who we had sold weapons to then turns around and becomes the the the enemy of all that is good we are told that he was gassing his people that they were killing babies and incubators in kuwait and there's just all this war propaganda that gets spread and then even up to two thousand three where we're told oh he's a threat to the united states he's threat to the united states they went to the united nations and joshua if you could just take two minutes we have two minutes left in this talk about the power of propaganda and persuasion that was used to gin up support for this war and i can remember you can remember for folks who were too young to know this and it's true there was a lot of support for this war early on there was a lot.
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Joshua Lysek
Yes and they abused it yes this is where the the george soros versus george bush alignment on afghanistan begins to diverge on iraq because george soros did believe in turning iraq as a closed society into an open society right where you have these neoliberal values you have feminism you have secular government you have separation between church and state or mosque and state in this case and soros seemed to resent the fact that george w bush's let's say coalition of regime change for iraq was using neoconservatism rather than neoliberalism whereas there was almost like this christian american patriotic flag waving propaganda that soros opposed to be used in iraq and what's interesting is the commentary on the clean break report later appeared in the new york times in two thousand three at around the time of the invasion and it was a description of the ideologues that were behind that report for bibi netanyahu that the best way to prevent conflict for israel is to preemptively intervene in these other countries those men behind that report as you were saying show up inside of the bush administration and in this commentary i'm reading from the new york times two thousand three a peculiar alliance of evangelical christians foreign policy hardliners lobbyists for the israeli government and neoconservatives that's the supranationalist alliance where we began to see for the first time and i remember this in two thousand three we saw evangelical christians across america put in their front yard what the israeli flag flying the israeli flag and the american flag so there becomes this moral ethical dear we say even religious connotation to the war this.
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Jack Posobiec
Is very interesting this is very deep but people need to understand this is where the iraq war came home right back to so.
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George W. Bush (archive clips)
My fellow citizens at this hour american and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm iraq to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger all right.
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Jack Posobiec
Jack brisovic we are back live joshua lysak you were talking about and we're here in this episode of tales of regime change iraq the war that rewired the world you were talking and really from personal experience about why there were certain populations of the united states who fervently agreed with regime change in iraq the war in iraq the same people who fervently believe many of whom are christian fervently believe in regime change in iran today they back these wars to the hilt and it's really a question right why was the bush administration the second bush administration particularly run by george w bush so fervently in a belief and you mentioned there was a religious aspect to this that we should have a war in iraq a lot of people will say that oh it was just blood for oil and that was cheney and halliburton and other people would say oh it's because they went after george hw bush whenever saddam went after his father so he wanted to get rid of him but perhaps you have another opinion or at least another angle.
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Joshua Lysek
Yes we said moments ago how this coalition of support had a cast of characters that included a number of high profile prominent and powerful evangelical christians including those who worked within the bush administration and set and advocated for the specific interventionist policy this preemptive interventionist policy which goes back to nineteen ninety six and the clean break report which says that again in order to have peace in the middle east we need to advocate for regime change in these countries that are opposed to israel and there was an expression three down to go with reference to syria and to iran right following the lebanon war in two thousand six that said remember act one of regime change as we saw in afghanistan and we'll see in syria act one of regime change the first stage is this demonization and preparation and ideological propaganda persuasion preparation where you build the case for going in there and getting him out of there and of course there are a number of lies about chemical weapons and weapons of mass destruction nuclear weapon this enriched uranium from africa a hypothesis that was of course debunked prior to the invasion of iraq we should add but i happen to recall at this time that my network limited as it was as a youngster it was representative of the national evangelical support for the bush administration invasion of iraq which by the way is what george soros opposed was the religiosity mixed with american patriotism or where we need to use the full force of the united states military to engage in this righteous christian war was how it was positioned which soros opposed he preferred the secular neoliberal freedom democracy feminism women's rights et cetera version of regime change but it ultimately leads to the same thing the toppling of saddam which soros advocated for but in the bush movie an evangelical world you had prominent christian preachers pastor televangelists like john hagee like hal lindsey who were saying iraq today is literally in bible prophecy you know where it talks about babylon in the old testament that's literally iraq today so where it says that there's going to be this end times conflict this end of the world armageddon we are right on the eve of armageddon let's go when that happens the rapture which is an evangelical christian doctrine that's about one hundred fifty or so years old when that happens jesus christ is going to return to earth and there's going to be this third temple built and there's this tribulation this whole world sort of a religious theocratic sci fi situation from the left behind novels which also were very popular at that time and the film and the number of films inspired by that also came out right around this time like there's one called i think it was called the omega code and of course there's left behind with kirk cameron and i remember at the megachurch i attended with my family the preacher on the eve of invasion gave a sermon entitled what would jesus say to saddam hussein but the idea was that for the first time christians i gotta say i'm.
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Jack Posobiec
Just wait can i pop in because like this is me in catholic world right we didn't have any of that we any and in fact the pope was against the war john paul ii was still pope and i remember him speaking out against this and he said do not do this i remember vladimir putin coming out and saying do not do this you i don't know you do not know what you will unleash and so you're saying that in in this world on your side of the house where you know where you were at the time that there was this fervent support for it yes that's right.
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Joshua Lysek
The evangelical christians as a voting bloc has been historically one of if not the most powerful special interest groups i think you could refer for it within the electorate in a kind of religious community and that's why of course donald j trump has done his best to persuade that community to support him from the very beginning and now he has the faith council and paula white who's an evangelical christian megachurch televangelist and at that time it was believed widely and many of your viewers will back me up on this and we'll see their comments and the replies that the sense was we can make the rapture happen we can make jesus come back that was the subtext of this it's called eschatology where there's this idea that the united states can sort of engage in this armageddon like crusade and russia is going to get involved on behalf of iraq that's what the bible prophecy of the cities of gog and magog are about and this is what demagogues have done over the years within evangelical christianity who come in to do a little grifting is they'll say look the time we are living in is literally written here in the bible here's what happens next hal lindsay of course claimed that the rapture is going to happen prior to the year nineteen eighty nine did not happen i remember y two k was seen as the time at which the rapture was going to occur we were all ready for that we were ready for jesus to come back everyone was getting their wills written up so that all of their possessions would be given to their non christian family members this was an entire movement in a mood and because evangelical christianity was adhered to this rapture version of it at all levels of society including in the government there was this sort of alignment of pro regime change individuals again evangelical christians those who are lobbyists for the israeli government who are aligned with clean break and of course you had the neoliberal and neoconservative and i just regime.
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Jack Posobiec
Changests and and it's it it's something that i will never quite personally understand because catholics we don't have that theology but this belief that invading iraq would somehow hasten the return of jesus christ to the world is is something that i i quite frankly i just don't think it should be running our foreign policy right back.
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Season two of unrivaled basketball is here and the talent is unreal paige beckers nafiza collier kelsey plumb brianna stewart and more are back to redefine the game unrivaled basketball season two sponsored by samsung galaxy tips off january fifth on tnt trutv and hbo max support for the.
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Disclosures another grim milestone has been reached in iraq five years after the war began the american death toll has reached at least four thousand the military says the latest deaths occurred sunday a roadside bomb killed four us soldiers in southern baghdad and rockets and mortars pounded the.
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Jack Posobiec
Heavily fortified green zone all right jack we're back with joshua lysak and joshua one of the things that i wanted to get into in this is that we don't see the return of jesus coming from these wars in the middle east but what we what do we actually see that's happening we lose tons of money we lose tons of americans and ultimately very strange things seems to happen at least strange from perhaps our perspective christian communities throughout these regions whether it be iraq whether it be afghanistan whether it be syria or anywhere else they get decimated they get wiped out and we sit there and we say oh gosh what about the christians who are being persecuted oh gosh and we never turn around and point the finger at ourselves and say wait a minute what if the forces that are conducting the persecution of christians in these regions are the same forces that we've unleashed or that we've enabled to be able to do so because of our own insane actions because that's what i think is has been going on in the middle east since two thousand one et cetera when it comes to these christian communities and i sit there and i talk about it and i go on on this show and i go on others and nobody wants to talk about it nobody wants to talk about how these wars always seem to lead to more dead christians.
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Joshua Lysek
One hundred percent yes what i would like to say to the evangelical christian community is that the israel of the bible is not the modern state of israel secular liberal organization founded in the year nineteen forty eight different people different place different times different world and what is in israel's economic interest or their foreign policy interest is not necessarily in the best interest of christians in iraq and in syria syria let us recall the three stages of a regime change right stage one is this is this demonization this hardcore persuasion campaign to build this coalition of moral support against your target that's act one act two or stage two is the unleashing of your intervention operation where you overthrow you you execute right you get rid of the guy we got to go in there and take him out right that was what was believed by myriad households both republican and democrat in two thousand three regarding saddam hussein there was bipartisan support usually bipartisan is code for oh this is bad as there's bipartisan support for obamacare right a few years later but it's in act three that regime changes are completely and totally botched i was reading a report by george soros in which two thousand three he suggested that it would take the united nations one or two years to stabilize iraq after the fall of saddam hussein so this is not a neoconservative evangelical issue this is we can go into these countries who do not share our culture our stories our values and we can make them like us in one or two years we just have to give them hospitals we have to give them roads and some schools act three is the aftermath and the idea where you can simply consolidate power install your person and everything will be stable well what happened we saw the rise of the first of all the insurgency that resulted following the mission accomplished banner of george w bush there we had the insurgency we had the vying for power there were odd scenarios where the iraqi soldiers trained by americans were siding with their own people against the americans there was friendly fire there was leaking of classified information battle plans to the insurgents there was of course isis right in both syria and iraq and what do those radicals do in mass they rounded up and they executed christians wherever they go and there was a direct consequence in the line of dominoes from this idea that we need to go into the middle east for religious reasons to religious brothers and sisters of that religion being murdered in mass men women children tens of thousands hundreds of thousands so if you are a christian war in the middle east is the very last thing that you should want to happen to the church.
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Jack Posobiec
And this this is key folks because what did we see the sectarian violence we saw iran by the way became emboldened right so you know even if you're someone if you're someone who's worried about iran and worried about stabilization of the region well remember we talked about earlier in the episode that saddam was the us bulwark against iran originally and so guess what in fact all those years he had still been operating as that bulwark against iran it turns out that actually that policy was quite useful that you prop up one of these guys and no they are not a jeffersonian democrat but guess what they're a strong man or you know as i like to call it a zookeeper you know because when an area is a zoo you need a zookeeper and when the zookeeper gets removed guess what happens all the animals get loose and that's exactly what we will see happens across the middle east in every single one of these instances whether it be whether it be afghanistan whether it be iraq whether it be libya whether it be syria et cetera it continues and it always plays out the same way this is what they do and so no you can't just impose your beliefs on these areas they don't operate based on your schedule and vladimir putin the president of russia of all people when he came out against this war iraq war originally he said what you unleash will be a hundred times worse than what is already there and what was unleashed ultimately al qaeda in iraq which later became isis which later became the islamic state and when joshua when you and i talked about afghanistan we talked about how the us backed the mujahideen and that the mujahideen led to the rise of the taliban and al qaeda al qaeda which then later attacked the united states and so again we have these situations right we have these situations where we need to understand that the law of unintended consequences will always win you don't just get what you want out of life that's not the way that it works you need to be very careful and for any of those people who think that i'm just going to say it all right i'm just going to say it i am talking about the people who are calling for more war in iran i am talking about the people who are calling for regime change in iran say oh those mullahs they're so bad and we got to get rid of them and just just look at the bad things they do we don't like them and they don't believe the same things we do okay got it right got it understood totally but what happens next and that is the question that they never seem to answer is it.
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Joshua Lysek
Joshua no and and and there's this i idea that is it is a secular utopian and also religious utopian in this case it's it's the kingdom of heaven coming to earth right it's the sort of the george soros evangelical alternative right where the kingdom of god is on earth just take the secular version of that both of those advocate for regime change and if i'm going to give a quick tip to evangelicals christians who do believe in an interventionist foreign policy who i was speaking at a republican event recently and i fielded a question in which someone was claiming that jd vance our vice president is signaling isolationist foreign policy and i was thinking to myself what and how we need to oppose that in a strong america is an america that's involved it's a sort of team america world police shenanigans situation well the quick tip i would give you put it instagram follow the account eastern christians these are the lebanese christians the syrian christians the iraqi christians the jordanian christians the palestinian christians who are caught in the crossfire between and among american israeli and the insurgencies the militias and the armies that they're battling and you don't need to see but one or two videos of churches wiped out by western munitions before you think to yourself maybe we shouldn't be the police maybe we shouldn't be following operation clean break here maybe my allies are my brothers and sisters in christ it may not be the secular government of israel here and that's a difficult situation to be in but i believe that if you spend some time on the eastern christian accounts on instagram you will see the people who are being threatened by western interventionist american interventionist and israeli interventionist foreign policy these are the people who are at risk of death eastern christians on instagram you know it's funny.
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Jack Posobiec
Because i was actually on i was on twitter i believe they have a couple of twitter accounts that are that are involved in this as well that i was tracking and you could see it and by the way we're not just seeing that christian persecution in the middle east boys and girls oh no we see it across europe at the hands of who muslim migrants which were also unleashed by these wars coming soon to a european capital near you right back jack so good joshua.
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Joshua Lysek
Moments ago the ceremony to mark the end of the iraq war wrapped up all us troops are to be out of the rock by december thirty first though president barack obama has pledged the us will continue civilian assistance for iraq as it faces an uncertain future all.
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Jack Posobiec
Right jack posobic we are back here human events daily tales of regime change iraq the war that rewired the world and to be clear this is the reason that the world is the way it is america poured trillions into iraq america shattered their own myth of liberal hegemony and in fact ironically it was the iraq war and the broader war on terror that destroyed america's position its pole position as the only superpower in the world this is what caused america to overstretch it caused the american empire as it were to be poured out into the sands of places thousands of miles away from america's shores and it is what ended this system which had existed since since the end of world war two really since nineteen forty five this system of one sort of order in the world has now led to multipolarity it was iraq it all goes back to that and it also has to be said because we haven't and particularly more so with syria but iraq is what began the migrant crisis that's when we started originally to see these migrants flooding out from middle east and into our lands into european lands into christendom where now the attacks on christians the rapes of our daughters the burning of our churches is all done in this clash of civilizations which continues to this day and so for me my sense of this my conclusion on this is when you look at the iraq.
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George W. Bush (archive clips)
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Jack Posobiec
It'S not enough to just say we're not going to do it again it's not enough because we said that about vietnam you have to understand the motivations that drove it and extended it to understand and unpack that which you will face in another scenario perhaps involving iran or any number of these countries you can insert whichever one you want venezuela etcetera these do not work and the lies that you are told early on about how great things will be once we topple the dictator or topple the mullah are always just that they are lies they are wrong and the people saying them seldom actually have that as their true motivation joshua lysik.
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Joshua Lysek
Yes and as long as we can take away the religious undertones and overtones of regime change we can see these for what they they really are they are supranationalist interventionist shenanigans frankly that never go the way that they're promised we talked before about the three acts of regime change and that third one the aftermath and consolidation where you install your friendly regime your new one and you build up this wonderful infrastructure and you stabilize the situation both the neoliberal supranationalists like george soros and the neoconservative supranationalists like those who ran policy for the bush administration both of those expectations fall flat this mission accomplished two thousand three is as absurd as soros idea that the united nations can stabilize and create a prosperous free democratic and dare i say feminist society in an islamic country ninety nine point nine nine percent in one or two years they're just not based on reality and so in the future as we look at any other regime change we need to be careful as george washington our first president in his farewell address advised us to beware of certain foreign entanglements something that is in the best interest of let's say even a friendly ally like israel may not be in the best interest of the united states or of those who are christian brothers and sisters in these countries iran or elsewhere something else that data republican and i began to uncover on the research on our upcoming book is the idea that that george bush president george w bush advocated for that we fight them over there so we don't fight them over here how that simply fell flat because the fighting over there never actually ended and we have this open loop from two thousand one two thousand three seven nine fifteen twenty one and beyond where the aftermath and consolidation stage of regime change has remained open because you can't open up a society that is not capable of being opened up to use george soros language so what's been done instead what we've seen the data republican calls it the administrative ngo complex that use both republican and democratic aligned institutions religious charities whether it's catholic charities or the lutheran or jewish alternative charities that they have set up instead of fighting them over there so we don't fight them over here the idea now becomes beginning in about twenty fifteen realizing the war on terror globally did not go as as far planned stage three failed of regime change let's bring them from there to over here we can democratize them and indoctrinate them with new liberal and neoconservative values we can make them good little citizens of the world who believe in democracy freedom and george washington and then because of the money they're sending back the remittances because of the h one b labor that's coming from those countries because of this cross cultural extension exchange we can influence those governments and those families and those groups back home by bringing them over here yet another neoliberal and neoconservative disaster which again both republicans and democrats have historically supported over the last decade and into that i guess you could say weak glass frame ideology comes the wrecking ball of nationalist populism under president donald j trump and through powerful influencers and super connectors like charlie kirk and so those individuals from both sides establishment become enemies of this supranationalist utopian idea where everyone can get along all people are basically the same on the right we jokingly call it magic dirt theory where you can bring a haitian plant them in my sister town next door to me springfield ohio and they immediately become just like everyone else if not better as some have said in the past that immigrants are superior to citizens because we're lazy as certain mistakes of christmas break have been known to report that said as we look towards regime change we have to understand that it doesn't work that way not all peoples and cultures are literally the same that's a both neoliberal and neoconservative overextension of thomas jefferson's words that all men are created equal that does not mean that all men are created literally equally the same and are therefore interchangeable that's what neoconservative neoliberal ideology is founded on what that means is having equal dignity in the eyes of god there's a verse in galatians i believe in which the apostle paul saint paul says that there is neither jew nor greek nor slave nor free nor male or female but all are one in christ right that is to say from that perspective all human beings have an inherent dignity as creations of god to overextend that idea ironically violates separation of church and state it is a christian doctrine that has legs through neoliberal secular enlightenmentism this is why we understand that the sort of of secular liberal perspective is a is like a riff on christianity and christian values where equality in terms of dignity becomes equality of of everything else well.
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Jack Posobiec
Joshua we're getting into another getting into another subject there but that's that's similar to that term i introduced recently on the show exvangelicals where they they've they're taking the christian superstructure and then applying that to progressivism folks this has been tales of regime change iraq the war that rewired the world understand why this happened and understand why it can happen again ladies and gentlemen as always you have my permission to lay ashore.
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