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Jack Posobiec
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Pierre.
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General Bondi, Director Patel or Deputy Director Buentino.
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
Can you describe.
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Jack Posobiec
Was there a particular moment where the evidence is coming in and it's starting to look like progress is being made with what was the moment that you knew that you were on the road.
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
To solving the case?
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Jack Posobiec
Dan, you want to take that?
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Yeah, sure. I was smiling at you because I certainly remember the moment. Darren remembers it too. He said, are you sitting down? Called me on the phone. I said, oh, boy, why is this bad news?
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And he said, I think we got him. What exactly that tip was. I going to have to pass on that for right now while we're still there. Obviously, we're in the prologue of a long book. This is just the beginning. This is not the end of the investigation, as you all well know, having reported on these for a long time. There's interviews to be conducted. The search warrant processing scene is not even done. So we're at the early stages. So that's the only reason I hesitate to tell you what the exact tip was. But yes, that was absolutely the moment. And it was due to the diligent and incredible work of a team in the Washington field office that came in and just scoured through this over and over and over and over again. In general, was it forensic?
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
Was it a phone call? Was it something about a vehicle?
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Jack Posobiec
We'll just leave it. Generally forensic evidence. Yeah, it's fair enough to say. Excuse me. How long ago that was, I'd rather not say because of the ongoing interview process. And I don't want.
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Jack Posobiec
That that moment, that was kind of like the aha moment.
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That wasn't the end. This team continued to work and work and work to get every bit of evidence that we could get. We didn't stop at that moment.
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Jack Posobiec
And that's a testament to the fact.
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That the team wanted every possible evidence.
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Jack Posobiec
Piece of evidence that they could gather.
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
One more.
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Jack Posobiec
One more.
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Trisha McLaughlin
Kelly o' Donnell and Lisa, thank you so much.
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Jack Posobiec
Have you recovered the notable sneakers?
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Trisha McLaughlin
Have you done surveillance of this suspect.
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
From that aha moment to when you.
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Trisha McLaughlin
Exercised the search warrants today? And obviously this happened on January 5th in into January 6th.
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Jack Posobiec
How should the public look at this.
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Case separate from all of the cases.
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Trisha McLaughlin
Related to what transpired on January 6.
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Jack Posobiec
And the President's subsequent parlance? I'm Going to let Director Patel take the evidence part. We have to be careful. Again, you've asked very good investigative questions, but this is ongoing, very active, but America should feel safer today. We say a pipe bomb. These are bombs. These were live, active bombs that were placed in Washington D.C. director.
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
Thank you. This shows you how much detail you and the American public have paid attention to this case.
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Jack Posobiec
Of course, we analyze everything that you're seeing on this poster board and information.
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
That you will see through the formal charging process in court process.
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Jack Posobiec
But we want to let that evidence.
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
Speak for itself because again, we do.
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Jack Posobiec
Not want to disrupt the accountability that.
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
We owe the American public. Yes, you heard about the cell phone tower data. Yes. You heard about. Of course, we surve individuals who we think were going to blow up American citizens.
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Jack Posobiec
But how and when we do it.
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
And why we do it is not something we're ever going to reveal unless the Department of Justice deems it fit at trial. So we appreciate your attention to detail.
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Jack Posobiec
And your hardcore investigative work, but you.
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
Can just imagine some of those same skills are being utilized by this FBI, this Department of justice, our partners, the ATF and everybody across the board. And this is an interagency win for the American people.
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Jack Posobiec
Thank you all. And one more thing.
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Jack Posobiec
Think Deputy Director Bongino could ask for today. Happy holidays. Merry Christmas.
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Former Navy intelligence veteran. This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobie.
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All right, Jack Sobeck. We are here live Human Events Daily. We're live on Real America's Voice. And we just finished the press conference where.
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The FBI, the Department of justice, they all came in. And today is. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome board. Today's December 4, 2025 Anno Domini. They all made this arrest of Brian Cole, who we're told is the suspect. Now, not a lot of information was revealed of this case. The only piece that we have so far, at least confirmed by Deputy Director, was that this was preexisting information. He also heard the Attorney General say that this was information that had been collecting dust. I want to go now to our in Guest Studio, Dr. Charles Cornish Dale, who joins us now. You guys may know him as the Raw Egg Nationalist. What's up, brother?
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
It's great to be with you, Jack. And I think I'm sitting in your seat today.
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Jack Posobiec
Indeed you are. You're sitting. You're sitting in my seat. Today we are in separate studios but yes, that is, that is one of my studios right there. Very nice. What do you make, what do you make of what we know so far about this bomber? We're waiting to get confirmation on an official photo. I don't know if one has been released yet. But we did hear from multiple sources now about potential anarchist writings that were associated with the individual who would have been about 25 or 26 around the time of this bombing.
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
Yeah, so they're not, they haven't released a huge amount of information about this suspect yet. But the information that has been released shouldn't really surprise us. You know, people are already talking on Twitter about the family business which appears to be related to bail bonds for immigrants. And you know, then there's also this material, this potentially these anarchist, these anarchist writings. So it looks like actually maybe what we're dealing with is something akin to a false flag. And you know, that was, that was suggested from the very beginning, actually, you know, that there were, that there were leftist agitators involved in the events of January 6th. And you know, really what it, what I think it tells us is that we need to go back and we need to, we need to look at January 6th. Again. We still don't know the full story. We still don't know exactly what was going on. You know, we still don't know who the FBI's confidential informants were who were on the ground. And I think it was, you know, there were dozens on the ground that day. But we also don't know actually whether, you know, there were, there really were elements of a leftist false flag taking place.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, and look, you know, there's. All of that needs to be discussed. Because now when we see these reports about anarchist writings, we see these reports and remember this was someone who we knew had attacked not just the rnc, but also the dnc. So someone who clearly, perhaps had an axe to grind with both parties, isn't necessarily a member of a mainstream political movement. And that does actually fit the profile of someone who we would see on the. As an anti government or an anarchist, anti fascist, extremist, where that is exactly how they look now. You know, we're going through, I'm trying to pull up on CNN or FBI whether any more information is coming out on this. He's been charged at this point of using a, an explosive device. We only had that grainy surveillance footage. And again, what we do see though is that it seems that the home that he was living in, and I believe we have a shot of the home where he was living that this seems to be an affluent individual. Those home prices in that area, Northern Virginia, just outside of Washington D.C. are very, very high. And so Dr. Cornish, Dale, what would it, what do you make of the idea that this could have been the son of a fairly wealthy upper middle class family? Is that a profile that we've seen before anywhere?
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
Yeah, yeah, no, it's a, it's a profile we all should be familiar with. I mean, I think, I think that what we're seeing is, yeah, I mean we're seeing a familiar pattern from history. I mean, it's these leftist agitators, these anarchist agitators. You know, a lot of them aren't from the lumpen proletariat as it were. You know, they're not the lowest of the low. They're actually potentially educated people. They're people from wealthy backgrounds and yet they share in you know, the sort of the leftist goal, the leftist dream.
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Of leveling society. So no, I mean it shouldn't, it shouldn't be a, it shouldn't be a surprise at all to us if it does turn out that actually this is somebody who is from an affluent background. You know, I mean, Luigi Mangione, he, he wasn't from a poor.
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Jack Posobiec
Exactly who I was thinking of.
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
Yeah. So, you know, I mean, yeah, we're seeing a pattern emerge and not just a kind of longer term pattern, but even just a pattern within the last year or so from Luigi Mangione. It's the same kinds of people carrying out these crimes.
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You know, and more attention needs to be paid to them by law enforcement, I think. I mean it's, you know, these are preventable, a lot of these are preventable crimes. I think law enforcement needs to get ahead of them because there are going to be more, I mean, that's one thing we can say, you know, there are going to be, be more attacks like this, more attempts to assassinate political figures, more attempts to plant pipe bombs, more attempts to spread terror and confusion. And also perhaps as with this pipe bombing attack, you know, maybe to, so, maybe to sow dissension, maybe to kind of try to implicate the right actually in the, in the left's scheme to.
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Jack Posobiec
Overturn society.
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Possibly or even just saw it as a target of opportunity, knew that there would be. What, what did we know? Right, what do we know? We knew that on January 6th, prior to that, that there would be a large gathering of Trump supporters in Washington D.C. on that day. And so it certainly could have been just from the basics of it certainly could have been an attempt to target those individuals who were, you know, who were marching around. I was personally there that day. I was in and around the Capitol. I was down at the Ellipse. I went walked up to the war room with Steve Bannon and sat down at the table and then went back, was walking down Capitol Hill right as the. Now, of course, the pipe bombs didn't go off, but I did see the stun grenades and the flashbangs thrown by the capitol police on January 6th as the crowd was peaceful, which led to, you know, much confusion and all of the pushing and shoving. And we saw how that spiraled out of control. And so, you know, it. We certainly knew that it was going to be a rough situation, a target of opportunity potentially for someone. That's why a lot of people had speculated just going into it that there could be some agitators, some antifa. Typically when, you know, as a guy who's hold his fair share of Trump rallies and Trump events in Washington, D.C. typically we do almost always get some kind of antifa counter protest, counter response. But it was always very interesting to me that there weren't any public or outward signs of Antifa anywhere at January 6th.
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
No. Well, I mean, look, it's not actually that difficult to dress up as a Trump supporter, is it? You don, you don the MAGA hat. You put a MAGA hat on, you're a Trump supporter. And so it's not like it's an elaborate disguise, isn't required actually to blend in. And I do seem to remember that there were people talking on Reddit about, you know, going to the Capitol and causing trouble and.
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Jack Posobiec
That's right. Wasn't there a. Wasn't there a bit. It was like wear your hat backwards or wear it upside down or something like that. That was going to be a thing.
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
Yes, yes, there was. So, I mean, yeah, I mean, I think it's.
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It stands to reason that, you know, there probably were leftist agitators there. It's a great way to, you know, to generate negative publicity. It's a great way to discredit people, is to associate them with political violence. And it doesn't take much to infiltrate, you know, a MAGA rally just by wearing a MAGA hat. And this is what, this is what leftists do. This is what leftists.
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Jack Posobiec
And by the way, in fact, we should. What I one of the questions, and I wasn't at the press conference today, but you know, if I were, I would love to know whether or not they had identified, did this individual and is there Any evidence that he. Because this was done late in the evening of January 5th. So is there any evidence that he himself went and then participated in the march at all on January 6th? What was he up to to the day after, when presumably he was expecting either these bombs, number one, to go off, or number two, to be used as some sort of distraction? And there are some questions about how exactly these phone calls and the identification of them came in. But let's take it out more broadly here, because there is a problem in this country, and we've, in the United States and in your country, the UK and really across the all of the west right now, of leftist violence. That seems to be a theme that a lot of the mainstream, despite horrific acts of violence, has yet to actually pick up. 1. And it's one where people seem to just. They see one of these actions and then they feel bad about it for a little while and they just move on. Why is it that we haven't really seen that narrative being taken over by the mainstream?
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
Yeah, it's interesting, you know, I mean, a lot of people still think that Charlie Kirk's killer, Tyler Robinson, wasn't a leftist. You know, I mean, there was. There was polling done recently, I think, that showed that a very, you know, a small minority of people of Americans actually think that Charlie Kirk's killer was a leftist. When it's obvious he was a leftist. You know, all the evidence points to him being a leftist. And you only need to actually look at the nature of the crime itself and to what it's achieved, which is to sow complete chaos on the right and to make it much, much harder for the right in the US to organize. You know, I mean, it's impossible, really, to overemphasize just how important Charlie Kirk was to the future of populism, to the future of the right in America. I mean, he was a star. He was going to be working for, you know, 20, 30 more years, you know, with his. With this unparalleled network that he'd created, with his personal charisma, with his drive and dedication and sense of mission. And they killed him. And it's thrown the American right into chaos, into infighting. And that's exactly what you do. You know, if you're committed to political violence as the left is, that's what you do. You target the major figures, you target the key players. You know, you assassinate them. You degrade your opponent's capability to organize. So it stands to rights that a leftist would, you know, this is what a leftist would do. And then we have all this information about Tyler Robinson's trans boyfriend, girlfriend, his furry obsession, the kind of things that he's looking at on the Internet, the code kind of person he just seems to be. And yet, for some strange reason, despite all the other acts of leftist terrorism that we are witnessing as well, and that actually have been forgotten. So, you know, I harp on about something that happened in February quite a lot. This chap called Ryan Michael English, a transgender male, tried to kill the Treasury Secretary, Scott Besant.
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He went to the Capitol with Molotov cocktails. He had a manifesto or writings in his possession and he said that he wanted to kill Scott Besant, he wanted to burn down the Heritage Foundation. He had a long list of conservative right wing Trump targets. And that's just been completely forgotten. And I find it very strange, actually, that people aren't joining the dots here because there's a very clear pattern, pattern that's emerged. It's exactly the pattern you would expect. This isn't surprising.
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But nonetheless, only a minority of people really seem to understand the nature of the situation that America is in right now.
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Jack Posobiec
And it's quite strange. And I wonder why as well this exists because it seems that there is a, A, an issue of scale, I suppose. But there's something that, there's a piece that you wrote before about what it is specifically about the trans movement. You wrote this for humanevents.com and trans individuals, where they view the things that Charlie was saying and the things that Trump is doing to ban and get rid of trans. Specifically, it's the bans on child gender manipulation, this gender surgery that you viewed as an actual precursor and a catalyst to violent action.
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
Yes, well, I think, I think what you have to understand is that every kind of society, every kind of social grouping wants to reproduce itself. The normal way for people to reproduce is biologically is through having sex and having children. But that isn't how the trans movement, that isn't how the trans grouping reproduces itself. Transgender people reproduce themselves through gender reassignment surgery and taking hormones. Right? That's how you get more trans people. That's how you continue the trans movement, is you get people to have surgery, you get people to have medical interventions. And so what's happening is Trump is banning.
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Or placing a moratorium on these, on these medical procedures. And suddenly it means you don't get more trans people. You certainly don't get more trans children and trans teenagers. So I think you have to understand that, you know, transgender people are already heavily, heavily radicalized they're among probably the most radical leftists. And now what you've got is you've got the Trump administration.
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Taking away their means of reproduction. So it's an existential crisis for them. It is actually an existential threat. And so that's why these people are, I think, the most dangerous of the radical leftists in America today, because they're actually, they feel they are facing an existential threat. And, you know, they say trans people are being murdered by Nazis. And what they actually mean, they talk.
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Jack Posobiec
About the transgenicide that's going on that no one can seem to point to or find or see.
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
And it's not that transgender people are being killed. It's that transgender people are being prevented from coming into existence because they can't have these radical surgeries. And so, you know, I said at the beginning, you know, the beginning of the Trump administration, this is the demographic that we need to watch. This is where the real, the hardcore killers, the kind of leftist jihadis are going to come from, because they're the ones who have the most to lose from the Trump agenda.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, and the instability that's inherent there, which is something, and I've said it again and again, that if you go back to the great horror writers and horror, the movies even used to understand this. Silence of the Lambs. Who is the killer? Who is Buffalo Bill? Buffalo Bill is trans. He's trying to make a literally change his skin to that of a woman. And that is why he is killing women. That's why you're putting the lotion on the skin. Right? So he can cut your skin off and wear it as a skin suit. Psycho Norman Bates, the Dead Mother, where he then tries to turn himself into his mother again. This trope has been around for years, for years and years because there's something about the psychology there that is inherently lethal and inherently brutal. The rejection of self, the rejection of reality. Right back, Jack. So big Raw Egg Nationalist.
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Dr. Charles Cornishdale. Dr. Cornishdale. Is there any type of name that you would ascribe to the sort of man that would do something like that?
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
Yeah, well, I mean, I would imagine he is a low testosterone individual, certainly.
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Jack Posobiec
And, you know, possibly one of the last men.
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
Yeah, one of the last men. Indeed, one of the last men of the title of the book, which is the Last Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity. You know. Who is the last man? Well, the last man is a character taken from the Florida philosophy of Friedrich Nietzsche, popularized much more widely by Francis Fukuyama in his end of history thesis. And in my book then, the last man is this kind of archetypal modern man who has low testosterone, who is.
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Probably left wing rather than right wing. And, you know, a big part of the book actually is talking about how testosterone is associated with political affiliation. There are studies, there are lots of studies in social psychology, for example, that suggest that men with higher testosterone have greater in group preference, for example. So in group preference is basically, let's say, a preference for your own tribe. So the kind of civilizational collapse that we're seeing in testosterone levels across the Western world really probably, probably does have aggregate political effects. And one of those aggregate political effects may be to drive people, especially men, towards the left or certainly away from the right, away from trusting what would be their natural instincts that would be fostered by testosterone, which would be to be patriotic, to show in group preference, to accept hierarchy. That's another thing that's associated associated with testosterone is hierarchy. So hormones are political. It doesn't really get said enough. And that's something that I'm trying to correct in the book. I'm trying to say, look, well.
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Jack Posobiec
Just to throw out a piece of information that might back this up in some of the leaked information that's come out on this relationship that Tyler Robinson was in with his gay lover Lance Twiggs, was that one of the former friends, former roommates of them had mentioned that Twigs was taking something called black market HRT or black market hormone replacement therapy. And there's a variety of Chinese examples of this that I've dug into. Not certainly not that I've tried myself, but that are apparently very easy to procure online. And they do describe his downward spiral as associating with a rise in. The more he took. It seemed the more he took these things, the more leftist he became.
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
Yeah, I Mean, that is. That is totally believable. And, you know, I was talking about this, this how transgender people reproduce. Well, one of the ways they reproduce is through. Through the use of hormones, through the use of estrogen if you're transitioning from male to female, and testosterone, if you're going the other way. And, you know.
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Radical leftists, radical transgender people, use websites like Reddit not only to organize politically but also actually to organize the distribution of, like you say, these black market hormonal treatments because it's essential for their reproduction for people who believe they're transgender or people who've been led to believe that they're transgender to take these hormones and. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, hormonal dysfunction is driving leftism, I believe. And it's worth mentioning actually, as well. You know, I mean, we tend to associate aggression because of kind of pop culture, pop science. We tend to associate aggression with testosterone, but actually aggression is also associated with estrogen. Estrogen modulates aggression in very, very interesting ways. If you give monkeys, if you give male macaques estrogen, they will become basically in cell monkeys. There's a very funny study about this where they gave male macaques estrogen from soy, and it turned them into basically passive aggressive kind of incel monkeys. They would retreat from their fellow monkeys in the troop and become more aggressive, more kind of bitchy. So it's wrong, I think, to think that, you know, just because these, if these people are taking estrogen, they don't.
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Jack Posobiec
It's a different type of aggression. It's more of this, this angry, like, clawing at you kind of aggression.
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
Kind of sneaky behind the scene.
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Jack Posobiec
Dr. Kornsdale, I'd love. I'd love to chat more. We're just out of time. Show us the book again. Tell us where to get it.
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
Yeah. The Last Men, Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity. It's available for Pre order from Amazon.com right now in hardback and and audiobook format. Releasing December 16th.
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Jack Posobiec
I know what I'm reading this Christmas. Dr. Charles Cornish. Dale, it is great to see you here in the Human Events studio. We're right back with an official from the Department of Homeland Security.
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Where is Jack? Where is he Jack, I want to see you.
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Great job, Jack.
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Dr. Charles Cornish Dale
Thank you.
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Jack Posobiec
What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who've been getting public.
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All right, Jack was up back live here. Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice. Folks, this Christmas you got to give the gift of food security with an amazing deal from our friends at my Patriot Supply. It's called the Buy one gift to Christmas special. You guys, you got to check it out. All month long, when you buy an emergency food kit, you'll get two more food kits for free to give as gifts. That's right. Get a four week emergency food supply for yourself and they'll throw in two one week food kits absolutely free. The one week kits make perfect gifts for anyone on your list who's into preparedness or anyone who needs a little nudge in that right direction. These days, it just makes sense to have some food stored away for emergencies. And with this buy one gift to Christmas deal, you're not only getting yourself prepared, you're also getting unique and meaningful Christmas gifts for your friends or family. And they are free. So head over to my patriotsupply.com jack and grab yours today. The offer is only around this holiday season, so go to my patriotsupply.com jack now that's my patriotsupply.com Jack this Christmas. Very excited to have now the Assistant Secretary of Homeland Security, Trisha McLaughlin joins us. Trisha, how are you?
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Trisha McLaughlin
Hey, Jack. I'm great. How are you doing?
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Jack Posobiec
Well, now, obviously, I know we just saw the DOJ's press conference there regarding the capture of this suspected pipe bomber. Wanted to ask from your perspective on the DHS side because the Secret Service falls under your purview, are you able to tell us that DHS played a role in this investigation?
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Trisha McLaughlin
Homeland Security investigations did play some role, but I have to give full credit to Kash Patel and Attorney General Pam Bondi. They really led the team and the administration on this, so they deserve full credit. Though our Homeland Security investigations team did lend a hand.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, of course. And obviously with, with any federal activity in Washington, D.C. i certainly know from personal experience there's always a lot of overlapping footprints, especially there on Capitol Hill where every agency kind of has, you know, quasi jurisdiction. It almost goes seat by seat. And of course, just the way investigations run different, different sources might be in one database that pairs up with another database. And so it's, it's good to hear, by the way, that it sounds like the different agencies are communicating and using that interagency process, which perhaps may have been one of the things that held up this investigation prior to it, prior to this arrest.
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Trisha McLaughlin
Jack, you're completely correct. And I will say when we came into this administration on January 20, we were saying that all of our intelligence agencies and offices were really operating in silos. There was little to no information sharing. We were seeing that there was tons of gaps of information. And so President Trump, I mean he brought his cabinet together and really ordered that those silos be broken down. And we've had unbelievable amounts of information sharing, especially on the immigration front when we're dealing with especially financial fraud. Treasury Secretary Scott Bassent has been absolutely phenomenal. The IRS has been involved and so it really has been a whole of government approach. I can speak about a recent operation out of Virginia though that home Homeland Security investigations, the FBI and we really had a whole of government approach. And was this individual, he's an Afghan national and he came in under Biden's Operation Allies welcome in September of 2021. Turns out he's a member of ISIS K. He's a terrorist. His father was a commander of militia in Afghanistan. And yet this individual was allowed into our country. He was giving temporary protected status. He was arrested yesterday and will no longer be able to terrorize the people of America. He will face just.
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And so we're really proud of that as an administration because it really was a whole of government approach. And we're going to get more of these guys out of this country.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, that's right. And ISIS K, of course, being the ISIS affiliate primarily associated with Afghanistan and those Central Asian countries, some of the former former Soviet countries up there, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, et cetera, but then also into Afghanistan as well. They've been trying to get into the United States for quite some time. But you know, just, just cutting back to, you know, what you mentioned about the information silos, that was what always made me bang my head against the wall so much when I was in the intelligence community that we'd be working on a problem set and I would need a piece of information because I'm, you know, it's, it's, it's like looking at a puzzle but, you know, you're missing a few pieces and then having a very good idea that, you know, it's like my, my, I know my 5 year old stole that piece and he hid it somewhere and I want to get it from him and I keep asking him where he is and he keeps either that he doesn't have that piece or he doesn't know where it is. And ultimately, it would be because people didn't want to share and because people in Washington, D.C. particularly in the intelligence community and the national security agencies, they use this to try to burnish their power, to keep their fiefdoms going. And you see a lot of this in the inner agency, where certain. I'm not going to name any agencies, but certain agencies that are around like to kind of bigfoot other agencies and play these games. They just play games. And ultimately, who suffers are the American people and our national security.
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Trisha McLaughlin
You're completely correct. And it really is amazing. As kind of more of an outsider, I was in the first Trump administration, but I'm not a government bureaucrat. So coming back into the administration under President Trump and seeing how it operates in the intelligence silos, the fact of the matter is it's turf wars. People don't want to give credit where credit's due. People don't want to give information that would advance investigations, that would help our national, national security, because perhaps themselves or their boss won't get credit. It won't go to their particular agency. I think within these really bureaucratic systems, that people forget that they're actually serving our nation, our homeland, and that's their ultimate goal, is to serve the American people. I don't know how that gets lost, but it certainly does. And I think President Trump has done a phenomenal job of bringing back the American people into the forefocus, which is exactly what it should be.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, I couldn't agree more. And that's when I hear the attorney general saying that, hey, this. This information was collecting dust on the shelf. It just makes me think, what other pieces of information, what documents are sitting collecting dust on the shelf about people that we don't even know about, People who, by the way, may have come into this country under false pretenses. Perhaps we used to call that derogatory information or drog. And so perhaps that information is actually out there. For example, you know, we had this information about the radicalization of that Afghan national that came in and then ultimately went and conducted this horrific shooting of our National Guards right there in Washington, D.C. these were preventable. These were preventable because they were just not vetted on their way in.
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Trisha McLaughlin
No, they weren't vetted on their way in. And that is astounding to hear. It's now been, within one week, three individuals who have been arrested. Unfortunately, of course, one of those who took the live of Sarah Beckstrom, an American Hero National Guardsman. But, Jack, the fact of the matter is the Biden administration was virtually doing no vetting when they were allowing almost 200,000 Afghan nationals into this country. They were not doing biometric data vetting. They weren't doing social media vetting. They weren't doing criminal background checks, cyber checks, they weren't doing financial crime checks. None of this was happening. So Secretary Noem really had to overhaul that entire system. When they were doing asylum interviews, they weren't checking in on an annual basis, which should have been happening. And had that been happening, this individual, as you mentioned, was radicalized while he was in the United States. He might have been caught.
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Jack Posobiec
No, he absolutely might have been caught. And those checks were coming in would certainly make sense, because who would you want to check, other than someone who had served with the United States military, who understood, by the way, understood our military SOPs, understood our force protection levels, understood how we operate, understand how we communicate, Someone who absolutely is familiar with those things so could easily, unfortunately, know how to conduct an attack like this. And as horrific as it was, you would think that those are the people that the previous administration, if they were going to let them in, would have been watching the closest. But of course, they weren't.
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Trisha McLaughlin
No, you're absolutely right, Jack. It's really horrifying. Especially we know that within the interior of our country, since the start of the administration, we have arrested at least 1,000 known or suspected terrorists. 20 million people, you know, came into this country in the past four years under Joe Biden. Of course, those 190,000 Afghan nationals coming in under Operation Allies Welcome. And then the millions of individuals who came in with little to no vetting under these parole programs like CHNV or these temporary protected statuses that were just absolutely exploited.
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Jack Posobiec
So in that case, it could be illegal. Or someone who has this, you know, one of these papers that's. That's come in, that 1,000 number would include both.
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Trisha McLaughlin
No, that would just include those who are in this country illegally. That doesn't even include those.
- [48:28]
Jack Posobiec
You're saying. So they're even separate? Oh, no.
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Trisha McLaughlin
Yes, that. And that's a huge reason why President Trump has instructed Secretary Noem to give him this list of countries, of which right now there are 19. But we're expecting that to really expand, that vetting was so out of control, we can't be giving out more immigration benefits. We have to be really reviewing who's in this country under asylum under a green card, because if we know that they weren't vetted there could be far, far more terrorists in this country.
- [48:59]
Jack Posobiec
That's exactly right. Trisha, quick, quick break because I do want to ask you more about that when we come back from commercial. This is quite possibly one of the most important issues facing our entire country right now. Right back. Human Event Daily.
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And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event. And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.
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Trisha McLaughlin
Amen.
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Jack Posobiec
All right, Jack Posobic, we are back live here, Human Events Daily. We're on with the Assistant Secretary of the Department of homeland security, Trisha McLaughlin. Trisha, I have to ask you. President Trump, of course, made comments regarding new raids that he's been looking to really emphasize and prioritize regarding Minneapolis. The community up there, this, this fraud community. We've seen a lot on Twitter, social media, people saying that this is going on, that this is happening. What can you tell us about what is happening in specifically this community in Minneapolis?
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Trisha McLaughlin
Well, I can confirm that ICE is on the ground in Minneapolis. USCIS has been doing a ongoing and really robust investigation, in particular on visa and marriage fraud. What they found is almost half of immigration cases that they've reviewed have had some sort of of fraud or exploitation. So of course those are going to be turned over to the Department of Justice for charges and for arrests. As far as ICE being on the ground there, I actually just looked at a report right as I was getting into the chair, Jack. Some really heinous arrests that were just made in the last 24 to 48 hours on the ground there in Minneapolis. We're talking about multiple child pedophiles, people who do have terrorist ties. People have been involved in gang and criminal activities and of course the fraud and the marriage fraud that we've known and heard about.
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Jack Posobiec
Well and when you look at this community and a number of these communities, it seems like this information was out there, that this information was compiled. The investigators had it, HSI had it, USCIS had it, but it just wasn't getting acted upon. Was it the same way we just heard from the attorney general in this case?
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Trisha McLaughlin
No, I think it was a problem of again the Biden administration not enforcing the rule of law, them seeing an exploitation of the system and often being a part of that exploitation of the system. Tim Walz, I mean either he's complicit or he's an idiot. I think that he definitely knew about this and has just been, has been in some part involved in this. The amount of money we've seen though, the taxpayer dollars paying for this exploitation and really a lot of the criminal activity that we' There was just actually a report shockingly out of the New York Times where there are these shell companies that were created to funnel money from government agencies and what should have been social safety nets for American citizens and said they were being siphoned to through fraud and to line individuals pockets, primarily people who were here on visas. And unfortunately that cost the American taxpayers over a billion dollars. And yet we saw very few arrests under this was happening throughout the B administration and it's only now that the Trump administration comes into office that people are actually being charged and they're actually going to be brought to justice.
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Jack Posobiec
And as crazy as this is, you know, you look at these types of programs that were letting people in unvetted that there's so much fraud, they're so much, they're rife with corruption. And it really seems as though these were just handouts for our country to bring in some of the worst actors in a variety and not just in Minneapolis, but in many of these communities, obviously Ohio. You and I talked about that quite a bit last year where you're from and so many other of these communities. It seems as though to your point, you know, Tim Walls, the governor there, Joe Biden when he was the president, mayorkas when he was the former secretary. I don't think that they were just looking the other way. I think that they were and this is just my opinion, I think that this was something that they supported. And the New York Times, it's amazing by the way, that the New York Times suddenly finds out about this fraud because all of these cases were going on while Tim Walls was the candidate for the vice presidency last year. We talked about them here on this show. I had Liz Collin from Alpha News coming on talking about it. When we got to the 57th juror, 57th defendant, and the 58th defendant and the 59th defendant as it went on and on and on. And they were bribing jurors with, you know, bags of cash, $120,000 in cash. Interesting how the New York Times just didn't seem to be interested last year.
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Trisha McLaughlin
No, you're so right. In one of the most important elections of our lifetime, they completely willfully ignored this. Jack, you make such a good point. But it's not just out of Minneapolis. What we saw is the creation of these parole programs that really were just a rubber stamp to let people in. It was to control the optics from the border as they created, say, chnv, Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, Venezuela, that really just was a rubber stamp to let these people into the country who would have otherwise come through the border illegally. It was an optics and political play by the Biden administration. A friend brought it up to me, actually, and said this was really just like legalizing murder and saying that you solved the problem of violent crime. And he's exactly right. So I think that this is something we first of all stopped these programs. We also are looking at who was let in here, who hasn't left yet, and getting them the heck out of our country.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, it's exactly right. And, you know, we saw, of course, you know, I'm from Philadelphia, so I remember the, you know, what they used to do is they would claim that murders were down because they would start scheduling or recategorizing different things as not a homicide. It was. This is an accidental death. This was a suicide, or, oh, this actually took place outside the bounds of Philadelphia. So they would play all these games over and over and over. And then eventually, what we also saw in the Biden administration with the statistics that they. That some of the large cities, New York, Louisiana, they weren't reporting their homicide data to the FBI. So they could walk around and say, murders are down. Right, because you're not counting them anymore. And it's something where it's just patently obvious where people could see on the ground. If you're living in Minneapolis, if you're living in one of these places, Springfield, Ohio, any of these. These areas, you can see that your quality of life has been severely diminished. And you can go and look outside and realize that you are surrounded by. You're just being surrounded by migrants that are in the country. Under some very vague pretense of, of being there. And it's, and it's really as simple as that. And it doesn't surprise me that dhs, that the more you look into these, these organizations and these situations, you're finding them completely rife with fraudulent claims. You mentioned, you mentioned. So the 19 countries that are currently on the, on the list you mentioned, there may be plans to expand. Can you tell us any of the countries, and if not, can you tell us what are some of the, some of the aspects and features that you're looking for of countries that may make it to that list?
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Trisha McLaughlin
Well, Secretary Noem gave President Trump a recommendation, I believe it was on Tuesday evening. And so he's looking at that lesson. He'll be evaluating it. But Jack, this is a list that was very much created with robust data and analysis. It's, first of all looking do these governments, do these regimes hate the United States of America? That should be really what we first look at because to some degree, when individuals are coming from their country of origin to ours, we collect information from those governments. So if you're trying to collect information from the Taliban on if an individual should be coming into our country or if they serve the American people's best interests, we can ignore what the Taliban says. That's exactly why President Trump has said we need to be pausing all immigration benefits there. So we're looking at regimes. Is this government being run by a terrorist organization? We can't take the risk of then letting an individual into our country from there. And then secondly, we're really looking at leading indicators. What's the likelihood that this individual is going to come into our country and either engage in fraud, criminal activity or be a public charge. So using our social safety net as a hammock and really not bringing any benefit to the American people and instead really just using American taxpayer resources that should be going to the American citizen.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, that's right. And in some of these countries, and I remember this coming up in the first admin as well, where, you know, people are trying to come in, they don't have good databases, they don't have biometric data, they don't have records keeping in many of these parts of the world, so to say, oh, we checked our databases, we couldn't find any information. That's because you don't even have a database.
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Trisha McLaughlin
Yeah, it makes no sense. That's why it really does amaze me every time I've put on CNN or MSNBC or msn. Now that there are, there are these talk talking heads on there saying oh these Afghan refugees and those who came into this country under parole were fully vetted. I can promise you. I think how the heck when you see the chaos, I mean you can see with your own eyes it's military age men just being shipped and masses into our country.
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Jack Posobiec
There is just no 30, 30 seconds. 30 seconds. The end. By the way, Assistant Secretary McLaughlin, I want to ask you a quick question, yes or no? If you you lie about marital status during a naturalization process, could that be grounds for denaturalization?
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Trisha McLaughlin
Yes.
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Jack Posobiec
Oh it certainly is. Thank you so much for joining us here on Human Events Daily. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay a short.
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Trisha McLaughlin
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Jack Posobiec
She lives across the country. She Shipt has tons of stores to order from. Groceries from Albertsons, crafts from Michaels, even.
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Trisha McLaughlin
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Jack Posobiec
The list goes on. So when we have long distance movie.
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Trisha McLaughlin
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Jack Posobiec
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