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This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
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A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran, this Is Human.
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Events with your host, Jack Posobiek.
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Christ is king. Agents with the US Customs and Border Protection are on heightened alert after new alleged threats from the cartel, apparently calling for direct attacks on border patrol agents, not just with weaponized drones, but ordering gang members to shoot at agents. Some cartels even allegedly incentivizing members through a tiered bounty system.
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Success that has been made arresting public safety threats and other priorities since this surge operation began as as well as the unprecedented levels of coordination we have obtained from state officials and local law enforcement, I have proposed and President Trump has concurred that this surge operation conclude a significant drawdown has already been underway this week and will continue through the next week. We have a lot of work to do across this country to remove public safety risk who shouldn't even be in this country. The ACLU. Democracy Forward Take Action. Minnesota Indivisible National Lawyers Guild CTUL, the Council on American Islamic Relations. Minnesota. Minnesota Three Five Voices for Racial Justice. On and on.
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$60 million. 14. At least 14 different groups. That sounds like a pretty broad ecosystem here. Where's this money coming from?
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We've built a database that contains hundreds of thousands of rows from grants from networks like the Soros Network, the Arabella Funding Network, the Neville Roy Singham Funding Network, many others Tides, the Ford Foundation Network, the Rockefeller Funding network. These massive NGOs that have billions of dollars to spend on all kinds of coordinated protest or in this case, riot activity.
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The House has officially passed the GOP's Save America Act. The act would require government mandated proof of citizenship such as passports or birth certificates to register to vote.
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It would also require states to remove.
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Non citizens from existing voter rolls.
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FBI search teams were seen walking roadways.
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Around Tucson and the Catalina foothills, scouring.
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For clues in the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie. A source close to the investigation confirms to CBS News two black gloves were recovered from the search and sent for DNA testing. The New York Post reports that authorities had found a black glove near the crime scene that's similar to ones worn by the masked individual in security camera images from the night the 84 year old disappeared. All right, Jack Bosobic here. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. We're here live Real America's voice. Today is February 12, 2026. Anno Domini. Folks, you know we're looking out across a number of stories that we're going to be tracking for today, looking at a number of different things that were. That we're up on. We've got people in the field. We now have assets on the ground in Tucson. We're going to be giving updates. I've been working with my contacts regarding that on the federal side as well as we now have assets on the ground, on the local side.
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Regarding the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, was this something related to cartels? Was this something related to a criminal, criminal ring, criminal scammers? Was it related to a home invasion? Or was this perhaps something personal? We will see human events again, assets on the ground. And we're going to be bringing that to you very soon here, folks. We're also in just a few moments, we will have Senator Josh Hawley on today because phenomenal work that he did yesterday. You saw the hearing, you saw the clip that's gone viral. He's here to give us exclusive updates on his investigation into the fraud in Minnesota. Because, ladies and gentlemen, just because operation, the operation has just ended their metro surge in Minneapolis does not mean that the problem has been completely ended. We saw border czar Tom Holman up there. He was, of course, talking about this, talking about some of the metrics. But we need to continue to pound home these investigations. We need, need. And he went up with AG Ellison. And we told you this is why you can't allow the ICE agents, the ICE officers to be investigated by the locals, because that's under the control of Keith Ellison. This guy is a radical. He has endorsed the antifa manifesto, literally, there are pictures of it. You cannot allow justice to be there. And we know that Keith Ellison, of course, was the same man who was behind the grave injustice that was done to Derek Chauvin. He's the one that led the politically driven investigation into him and the tampering with the jury that we know that went on, overlooking the fact that there were BLM members who had ties to George Floyd's family sitting on that jury, BLM podcasters that were on that jury. Again, it all goes back to Keith Ellison. And you know, so many questions about Minnesota. Also, we're going to get into Bad Bunny, the halftime show. So many questions that people are raising and one of the ones that I want to get into. And we're going to have R. McIntyre to discuss this question of was his show political? Was the Bad Bunny show political? They'll say, oh, well, he didn't talk about Trump. He didn't talk about ic Wasn't political. Wasn't political at all. Oh, really? Well, we've got a different take on that because I'm here to tell you that I believe it was political because when you see someone there at the American halftime show, United States of America, parading foreign flags, not just the Puerto Rican flag, but all of the foreign flags that he put up, this is multiculturalism. This is globalism. This is the George Soros agenda. And when you read that football, it seems like it's written by the Open Society Foundation. Together, we are America. He's not talking about American citizens. He's talking about residents of every single country in the western hemisphere. Do you want that? Do you want every single person in the western hemisphere to be allowed to walk into our country and take our stuff and get free benefits? No, I don't think so. So our halftime show, the all American halftime show, was for American citizens, was for people who love the United States. States of America. And we're not going to use these weasel words and we're not going to change the definition of words. Everybody knows what an American is, and everybody knows what an all American is. So we will be back. Human Events Daily coming up soon. Senator Josh Hawley joins us next. Nothing will stand in our way. And our golden age has just begun. This is Human Events with Jack. So. But now it's time for everyone to understand what America first truly means. Welcome to the second American Revolution. All right, Jack sober back live here. Human Events Daily. Real America's voice, folks. Scammers, criminals, they raised the stakes last year and it's only getting worse. Scams are more complicated. They're harder than ever to catch. AI clones, voices, texts, they sound like your family and friends. 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Thank you for having me.
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So I got to ask. You ought to be in jail. Was. Was that line, was that scripted? Was that planned out? Had you, had you planned to go, you know, full time cruise on him like that, walk us through the scene?
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Well, I mean, here you've got this guy, it's the ag, the Attorney General of Minnesota, Keith Ellison, who, by the way, has been out there calling Trump a fascist, a dictator, all the usual left wing garbage nonsense. And the reason he's doing it, Jack, is because he's a crook himself and he just wants to talk about anything other than the fact that he was right at the center of the Minnesota fraud scheme. This is the Attorney General of the state. He should be prosecuting bad guys. And instead, he had the Somali crime ring into his own office. He took $10,000 in donations from these people, and in return, he asked his staff to get the investigators off their backs. I mean, it's unbelievable. He should be in jail. And he was trying to fight me on it and talk over me. I mean, he couldn't. You should have seen his eyes. You know, he couldn't believe I was confronting him on this. And I finally just said to him, you ought to be in jail. You should be indicted for this. He ought to be in prison for this. This is the kind of fraud that is rampant. It is rampant, and we got to root it out.
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Well, and so as you're conducting this investigation, you're looking into it, obviously, these were federal funds that flowed through the fraud, not only to these organizations feeding our future, which is completely fraudulent, taking money away that was meant for needy children. But as you say, this was then translated into campaign coffers. And so the person who's supposed to be looking out for the people of Minnesota, looking out, of course, for justice in Minnesota, we're. Was not only overlooking this, he was benefiting from it. And when you think about Keith Ellison, a guy who, as you say, he's. He's, you know, an anti Trump partisan. He's promoted the antifa handbook. We've got his own tweets. He's promoting it up full, fully, telling everyone to go and read it. This is a situation where I don't think people realize, how did Minnesota just get to this point?
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Yeah, and this is why. It's because people like this guy who are supposed to be there, he's the chief law enforcement officer. He's supposed to be process the bad guys. Instead, he is a bad guy. He's welcoming them into his office. And get this. The reason we know that he met with all of these fraudsters is because they recorded it. Hilariously, they recorded it. 54 minutes of live tape. It's on the Internet. Anybody can listen to it. I've listened to it. And what you hear is over and over and over again, they offer him campaign cash if he will intervene and get the investigators off of their backs. By the way, this was just a few weeks before the FBI raided the Feeding Our Futures, the central fraud nexus, before they raided their headquarters. So here's the Attorney General of the State meeting with these people. They're saying, we'll give you cash. He says, oh, that's great. Let me know whatever I can do. He gets the investigators off their backs, or pretends to, and he takes the money just days after he meets with these people. $10,000 he takes personally. They also made a contribution to his son. I mean, you can't make this stuff up. I can't imagine why he has not been indicted. He should be indicted federally and tried and go to prison. But you want to know why we have so much fraud in America and why there's so much fraud in Minnesota? That's the reason.
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So when we look at this, I mean, it's staggering fraud. I mean, this seems like the type of purchasing of public officials that you would see generations ago, like a Mafia organization or something like this. I struggle to even find something that compares to it. The Abscam scandal, for example, is something where a number of congressmen were sort of rolled up in that years ago. There's a couple of movies about that people can go see. And. And it's. It's staggering. The fact that he didn't even see. Was he remorseful? Was he, you know, at all, you know, willing to work with the federal government to try to at least roll up people in this network?
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Oh, no. I mean, listen, whistleblowers came to him when he first got sworn in as Attorney General. Whistleblowers came to him and said, you got a big problem with this program Feeding our future. It's a scam operation. What did he do? Nothing. He turned him away. And don't take my word for it. The liberal Minneapolis Star Tribune, or whatever it's called, their local newspaper has done an investigation, and they said the guy repeatedly turned away whistleblowers. It's all on the record. And now we know why. It's because he was looking for an angle. He was looking for a way to profit. And sure enough, when they came to him, they said, we'll give you money. You listen to that 54 minutes of tape. I can't tell you how much of it is spent talking about money. And this is with the sitting attorney general of the state. The fraudsters are sitting there and saying, we'll give you money. Where do you want the money? We've got a lot of money. And he's just saying, oh, that's great. That's great. And then he takes the cash. This is the kind of corruption that we have got to root out everywhere, the federal government and the state governments. And I tell you what, the left has been so complicit in this for so long, they hardly recognize anymore that there's anything wrong with it.
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Now, here's what's confusing to me, because the last I checked, in 2024, there was a Minnesota statewide official who ran for vice president as the national party candidate. One of the standard bearers, the vice presidential candidate on the Democrat ticket. Was any of these scandals or were any of these scandals reported on cnn? New York Times, Washington Post? How did they seem to miss all of this? Because of course, we know the governor. I don't know if he's on 54 minutes of tape, but certainly he's up his ears in quite a bit of this as well.
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You know what? He does show up on the tape, as a matter of fact, at one point, the attorney general says, I can tell you that Waltz is with me on this. He's against all this piddly, diddly looking in to all of these businesses and looking over their shoulders. In other words, Waltz doesn't want any scrutiny on it. And what do we see? Massive fraud like there has never been in any state before in the Union. And of course, the media ignored it because it was inconvenient. You know, it was an inconvenient story. Waltz was supposed to be Mr. Squeaky Clean, you know, coach, whatever. You know, all of that turns out to be untrue. In fact, the guy is absolutely up to his eyeballs in corruption. He was enabling it. His attorney general seems to have been profiting off of it. It is corruption everywhere you look, and people like this need to be indicted. You know, I was an attorney general once in my state. I indicted people who did this stuff. Ellison ought to be indicted. Anybody who did this should be indicted. That's how you put a stop to it.
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Well, I think that's right. Now, obviously, you're, you're digging into this. You're pushing on it. You've had this, this moment that's gone incredibly viral. Do we, you know, or have you had any discussions with the Department of Justice about this? US Attorneys talking about grand juries, anything about getting the ball rolling from or that you've heard of, at least from that perspective?
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Well, I haven't talked to him about Ellison, who was in front of me today. But I applaud them and I applaud President Trump for creating this new attorney general, assistant Attorney general, who's going to go after fraud and whose Remit will be 100% fraud because we need it. And I just urge him to start right there with the Attorney General. I mean, just look today at his testimony, look at the record. It's all there. And you can follow the money. I mean, $9 billion in fraud. Get this, Jack. They're actually, they were flying out of the Minneapolis airport. They were flying suitcases stuffed with $100 bills. They took out 14,000 pounds of $100 bills in suitcases out of the Minneapolis airport. I mean, that's the level of corruption we're talking about. And nobody stopped them. Nobody stopped him. That money ought to come back to us taxpayers, and the people involved in it need to go to jail.
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Well, that's exactly right. And so when we were in Minneapolis here on this program, I sat down with Secretary Besson, and when we talked about this, he even talked about how some of the money. That's not, we're not exactly sure if all of this money from the airport was, was from feeding our future. I'm sure, I'm sure there are other things as well. But he mentioned that some of the money from feeding our future not only made it on the, onto those airplanes, but made it all the way back to Somalia and even made it into the coffers of Al Shabaab, which is an Al Qaeda LinkedIn terrorist organization, the kind that I used to go after when, and my friends would go after when we were in the intelligence community. I mean, it staggers the mind that taxpayer money could end up in a terrorist cell after going through the airport and putting on a suitcase. This is like the worst Bruce Willis movie I've ever heard of.
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Yeah, it's unconscionable. I mean, is the real answer. I mean, you have to laugh because it's just. It's just so unbelievable. But really, at the end of the day, it is unconscionable that the American people are getting ripped off to this extent that their hard earned money. You think about the people who scraped and worked to make enough money that they didn't pay their taxes. They're good citizens. They pay up. And what happens to their money? It gets funneled by a bunch of fraudsters over to drug trafficking rings and terrorists in Somalia and elsewhere. People like Keith Ellison are trying to get kickbacks from it. I mean, it's unbelievable. No wonder people are angry, you know, I mean, the media never gets it. They're like, oh, why are people so upset about this? Well, gee, I don't know. Maybe because you've ripped them off on a scale we've never seen before. And it's corruption everywhere you look. We've got to root it.
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And they. And they tell you it's not happening. Well, we can see it, Senator. That's just about all the time we have for today. But before I let you go, you know, I got to ask you, we did have the super bowl this past weekend, but then there was another competition halfway through. We had over at Turning Point through a little halftime show of our own. And in addition to that, we. Which one did you watch?
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I can tell you I didn't watch Bad Bunny or whatever his name is. Yours was amazing. You guys were awesome.
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Thank you very much, Senator. God bless. We hope to see you back on soon. Phenomenal work for the people of this country. Thank you so much. You talk about influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine.
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Jack, where's dad?
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Well, thanks for having me.
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So, Aaron, let's, let's, let's get started. You know, we were doing that. What is an American question pretty much for like the last year and a half, but now I think we have to do that. We have to go to another level or what is politics?
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Well, politics is obviously the contest between different groups for resources. And what you hope, ultimately is that you don't have politics in every cultural event. You want to have events like the super bowl where people could come together, share an understanding, put any differences aside. But unfortunately, when you have a scenario where everything in your culture is ultimately being divvied up between the different sides, politics will seep into everything. So you, like, like you say, a lot of people will simply look at this and say, well, no one dissed Donald Trump. He didn't get up there and say, I hate Donald Trump, I hate Republicans, I hate ice. He didn't do that. But what he did do was first just perform entirely in Spanish, in a language that is not our own. He brought all the imagery that was entirely built on Hispanic culture, not normal, typical American mainstream culture. He made sure to march with flags from across the entire north and South America, displaying those flags proudly, as if perhaps he had conquered something. These are all aspects, as along with the, you know, the gay grinding and everything else you pointed out, these are all coded messages. They're coded a specific way. They are inherently political at this point. They are not giving us a neutral celebration of the American spirit or ideal. It has given us a very specific leftist narrative on what America should be. And that's what he's delivering, even if he doesn't say I hate Donald Trump in the middle of it.
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Right. And the message that we see on the football. And I said, you know, you know, did George Soros write this himself? Or maybe his son Alex wrote it. It says, together we are America. So they bring out all the flags of every country in the Western hemisphere, for the most part. And then it's the phrase, together we are America. This is open borders globalism. This is multiculturalism. This is the entire project of the left. Aren. Why did so many conservatives look at this and say, I don't see anything political here at all?
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I think, for one, people want it to be true. They want to believe that the woke has been put away. They want to believe that they're going to go back to a somewhat sane left that's just talking about more, you know, health insurance or higher taxes. They don't want to believe that they're going to be trapped in a culture war forever, and they want an excuse to be able to turn on football without thinking about it. I understand all these things. I understand not wanting to be constantly in this state of a culture war, constantly being in this low grade conflict that we're dealing with, being able to just simply enjoy the things that you love. But, sorry, we don't get to opt out of this conflict just because we don't want to be a part of it. That's not how things work. The left is pushing to take over your culture. They're looking to replace the current American population with foreigners. They're looking to rig the electoral system permanently so that they can be in charge and there is no hope of changing things. We cannot sit back and pretend that isn't happening. And it's just as true with our culture. That's why what you guys are doing with TPUSA is so important. You have to have an alternative. You have to give people a reason to come back and believe in America, to believe in conservatism, the right what, the vision that we see. Because if you simply let the left dominate the culture without any pushback, it's a failure. Are you ever going to have exactly what the super bowl has? Are you going to have those hundreds of millions of viewers and dollars? Probably not. But you are going to provide a true alternative. And that is critical.
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And look, that's exactly the situation that we found ourselves in, because when we called it the All American halftime show, that was a deliberate choice. That was a deliberate choice to come up and say, this is about celebrating one flag. This is about celebrating one people, the American people. And yes, we, you know, if there was any messaging there, it was that we should always do that. We should always stand up for our people, that we should put our culture first. And a celebration of the type of music, by the way, that middle America listens to, that tens of millions of people, hundreds of millions of people listen to country music, rock music, which has been systemically rejected and deplatformed by the NFL and the super bowl for decades at this point. And look, it's all glory to God for his grace. And, you know, you want to stay humble because this was all him in terms of getting us to the 40, 50 million people that we had for it. But also it speaks, I think, to the backlash of getting this false multiculturalism jammed down our throats every time we turn on a TV and just want to enjoy the super bowl right back. Jack Posobic or McIntyre. Humiliated events daily.
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Jack.
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Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack.
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Thank you.
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What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys and these are the guys who be getting pullers. All right, Jack, we're back live here. Human Events Daily. Real America's Voice. And you know, coming off the heels, the All American halftime show, you know, we were, we wanted to express some of the, the political fusions and tensions and that that went in, in the underpinning of all of this. And we've got Aaron McIntyre on here who's great because he understands sort of the big view of politics. So, Aaron, you know, the way I've been describing it is that the All American halftime show, it broke containment, that it just, it went far beyond, you know, just what Turning Point was doing, what Human Events was doing. It just caught the public's attention and it, and this is why I say it was God's motivation and God's power. And you know, obviously Charlie inspired the entire thing, but you know, and obviously Kid Rock stardom, his celebrity status I think lended a lot to that. But let me ask you this question from that same perspective. Why is it that so many Americans, even if they can't articulate right, just can't articulate what it is that they liked about this show. Why is it that there was so much pent up demand for a show like this?
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Well, like you said, I think for years the NFL has been specifically ignoring middle America and what they love, as much as it may not seem like it, because we're constantly bombarded with everything else. Country music continues to be the most listened to genre in the United States. It has the largest audience and yet it is not served at all in our culture and certainly not in our major events. And that's not a mistake, of course. There's also a huge understanding that people simply want to be proud of the United States. They don't want to lecture about their culture. They so certainly don't want a celebration of someone else's culture. If you look at the stands during that performance, most of the people looked entirely confused. Even the performance itself was so lifeless because we can see in this shot plenty of people clapping along. They're singing, they're enjoying it. But the NFL turned their halftime show basically into social media extravaganza. There is no crowd on the field, there's no one cheering, there's no one clapping. They're not participating. They don't care, because it's not even in the language they speak. People desperately needed something that they could rally behind that they felt represented the United States that they've been hungering for and been denied by the NFL for many years. And I think that's why when you have that opportunity, when you have that alternative, people really respond. And while this is just the first time this has happened, I guarantee you that if this becomes an ongoing thing, that this is going to start becoming an event that people want to be a part of, that artists want to be a part of. It could make the name of up and coming artists who want to celebrate the United States and care deeply about this country. We need to start thinking of this as the opportunity to launch careers, to make it, to create influence and to push the idea that ultimately this is the type of America that people want to see.
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And it's clearly, you know, it clearly has the. The backing there. And. And I think that it speaks to those, you know, what we've been talking about, what is an American. It speaks to those cultural bonds. They want to see a show that reflects their culture. They want to see a show that reflects who they are, their community, what they stand for. Flag, family, Jesus Christ, faith. I mean, we deliberately kept this very, very simple to try to reach the widest audience possible. And I think that's the reason that it was so successful, why the industry is, you know, and you see the media ops right now, they're running so many, you know, they're playing all these games where they're, you know, using one system of ratings to rank the super bowl show, but another system of ratings to rank our show and making it look like there's this massive disparity when actually, if you take away some of the, you know, the Nielsen formulas, that. That it's. It's actually. It is comparable. I'll put it that way. That is. I'm not going to say we beat it, but I'm going to say it's actually much more comparable than they would like to admit, because we were able to get a lot of those eyeballs over. But. But aren't your. To your point, and I ask about this. Is that it is political. Culture itself is political. This was. Andrew Breitbart taught us that politics is downstream of culture. That's why they are pushing multiculturalism on this cultural stage.
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And I think it's important for people to remember that, you know, there's a lot of people currently debating, especially online right now can. Right Wingers make art? Can conservatives make art? Is it dangerous to have political art? And the truth is that, yes, you don't want to have the politics lead the art. You want to have something that. That talks about life, that people can understand and relate to. But none of the performers at your event were political in the sense of they were writing all of their songs just about politics. Kid Rock was writing a lot of songs that had nothing to do with conservatism. And ultimately he has grown. In fact, that was one of the beautiful things displayed through his set. He begins with a song that was written at a time where he wasn't Christian and wasn't conservative and wasn't looking for those values. And then evolves slowly to preaching the gospel at the end, showing that arc of who he's become. And I think that's what people are looking for. Yes, it's conservative. Yes, it's right wing. Yes, ultimately we are organizing this in politically, in a sense. But the art itself is about his life. The art itself is about the journey he's been on. And this is true of so many other people performing there. So, yes, the. There will be a political background involved in this because as you say, ultimately this event exists because there is a culture war, and we can't lie about that. But the art is not hitting you in the face necessarily with its politics. It's telling you a story that people can relate to and that's what they want to see.
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Yeah, an amazing story about. And when I was there, you know, I started seeing some of the elements that the string section shows up. I'm like, why do we have a string section for Kid Rock? You know, and then, you know, and I. Because I could start to see the puzzle pieces being put together because he. He told us that he had this vision. But, you know, like most artists, I wasn't really sure what he meant that he was going for. But then when I finally saw it on stage, I said, oh my gosh, this is a redemption story. That's what it is. It's that redemption arc of himself. Here's me as Kid Rock. The money, the fame, the girls, the high flying, the concerts, everything. The hard living. But then there's this salvation moment, and that's the strings. And then he gets reintroduced as Robert Richie, which is his actual name. And then he plays the final song, dedicates it to. To Charlie at the very end, but then is also telling people to find Jesus. I mean, that is art. That is actually a story through art. And he's showing his own journey through all of that. Arm. McIntyre, thank you so much for joining us. Incredible analysis as always. And, yeah, man, we endeavor to do this again and have to pick your brain about some of this stuff when we put together the next one.
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Did a great job, man. Thanks for having me.
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Thank you. All right, folks, we promised you that we would have assets on the ground, and assets on the ground we do have. Want to go now live to Tucson, Arizona, the Catalina foothills, where human events field correspondent and RAV field correspondent Kevin Posobic is currently stationed, I believe, right outside of Nancy Guthrie's home. Kevin, are you there?
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D
Yes, I am, Jack. Yes, I am. And glad to be with you.
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A
And that's where you are. You're outside. You're outside the residence.
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D
Yes. Let me show you real quick here. Oh, there it is. Culture. You want to talk politics? The end of the day, this is what it's all about. Right here. It says, dear Guthrie family, your neighbors stand with you. A lot of people came to show flowers out front. This just happened about an hour ago. There's even a little Mary candle there, other flowers. And we've seen yellow ribbons strewn along cactuses and trees nearby. Here it is, on guard. There is Pima county sheriff's truck right behind me as well. And as everyone has seen, is a developing story today that the forensics team has come and conducted procedures to collect more evidence. And what we've seen is, I believe, more gloves have been acquired. That's the. That's the latest. And aside from that, possibly more fingerprints, it's all been taken in to the station. They're going over it and researching what they can find. I mean, there's been, what, 18,000 tips given in, so it's going to take some time to filter out, and hopefully we'll see some more people detained here or whatever it takes, honestly. But at the end of the day, this is a very nice neighborhood. Neighborhood. And, you know, we're coming together just to, you know, keep. Keep the prayers going as. As Christians. And, you know, we want to. We want to see Nancy come home safely.
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Well, and, Kevin, this. This, of course, you mentioned the yellow ribbons. That. And did you say the yellow ribbons are tied around cactuses? Is that what you said?
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D
A few of them, yeah.
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Not many, but so that. That's. That's, of course, people know. You know, people know, of course, you tie a yellow ribbon. This, of course, associated with the military. But the meaning is come home safe. That we want people to come home safe. This is a tradition that goes. I Think back to World War I for families that have someone who's serving in the military. And yet in this situation, another a symbol, right? An American symbol, American culture, a shared culture that we have and quite frankly, that we celebrate. That's why when you have a situation like this with so many moving parts, that it. You want to look into it, because we have to investigate and get to the bottom of it, no matter where the investigation goes. And so Kevin Posic there on the ground doing the live reporting for Human Events and Real America's Voice. We'll be right back. Next segment. Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it. And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event. And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again. Amen. All right, Jack Posobic, we are back live Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice. Kevin Posobic live on the ground right outside of Nancy Guthrie's residence. Kevin, walk us through the scenes. You're out, you're outside of the house. There's people around. Describe the situation.
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D
Yeah, so to the, to my left and right are about 40 other media companies. This is jam packed, this whole street. All the media is here. And we just, we just wrapped up a forensics procedure.
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A
Can you, can you, can you show that a little bit? Can you show, can you, can you show us that a little bit at all? Are you, are you able to turn the camera?
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D
Yeah, I can, I can, I can gently walk with you here. So we have a sheriff's truck on guard. He is in the driveway. And just beyond him is the archway where the nest camera footage was retrieved. And then there's, you know, the other driveway here. That's where more agents or officers were, their tools and whatnot, and their kits coming in and out. I got some content of that earlier and, you know, nothing breakthrough yet. And it was just, you know, so they're right there off is where the tent was. And there's been various drones, several news agencies that you can see. They have drones giving overhead shots. But also. So I have these binoculars. See whose drones are there. Is it just media or is it police? Is it county police or is it state police? These are things that I asked while I was in Minneapolis. So another point I wanted to bring up was that in particular, I saw two helicopters earlier. And we've heard reports of BORTAC border patrol being involved as well. But, but also the police. So, so interesting point is that Pima county police, or Pima county itself, is about 9,000 miles, you know, total. And that's larger than some east coast states. So, you know, for everybody that's saying, oh, why is it taking so long? This and that, like, these guys are spread out across the state. Okay. And this is a very unique case, so they still need to be the police for the rest of this gigantic county. And so I think that's also why, you know, Sheriff Nanos reached out to the FBI for help, because they're just simply overwhelmed. I mean, this is a nationwide well.
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A
And Kevin, one of the things. Kevin, one of the things that we're also hearing is that the cooperation level between Sheriff Nanos and the federal government is still icy, that the cooperation is not going as smoothly as they wanted, that the sheriffs are not allowing the. The federal investigators to take full charge of the investigation. And so something that we're clearly looking at similar to what you saw in Minneapolis, they're refusing to work with them. And this may actually be a political issue because they. This is a Democrat and the Trump administration, obviously Republicans. So, Kevin, do you really think. And of course, there's vehicles coming in behind you here. So, you know, I want to. Want to everyone to know this is a neighborhood. People still live here. Obviously, it's not like it's all shut down. And. But Kevin, walk me through some of that. Does it seem to be that there's a political reason that they don't want the federal government to come in and fully take, you know, take charge of this investigation?
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D
I mean, it's definitely very hot right now because of the anti ICE measures and just the overall narrative of anti federal overreach, authoritarianism, etc. So I guess in general, there. There might be a little that lingering here, but. But obviously also, I mean, Savannah Guthrie is with NBC News. She's a. She's a famous host. So. So, I mean, there's all kinds of theories going around, and most of it's speculation. I'm trying to give you guys the evidence here as it. As it comes. But I mean, politically. Yeah, so. So another interesting point, Jack, is that. So. So the call from Savannah to Senator Kelly in the very beginning, before the news broke. Senator Kelly is married to Gabby Giffords. Okay, so that story about 15 years ago happened and a brutal story. I mean, thank goodness she survived shooting.
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A
Right there in Tucson.
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D
Yeah. So that's what I believe.
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A
You can still. Wait, wait, Kevin, you can actually see there's. There's people behind you right now. They're putting down Flowers. And it. I. I have to say, it just reminds me a lot of people coming and to just. You're not far from Phoenix, where we held the vigil at Turning Point headquarters for Charlie. And it certainly reminds me in. In many ways of that.
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D
And yes, amen. And to. To that point, too, for the record, at Alex Preddy's death site and Renee Goods, I did stop and pray. So this is, for me personally, a. It's beyond. It's about politics, sure. But it's also beyond that at this point. This is an old woman we're talking about. She's 84 years old. She's been gone for two weeks. They just want her home. They have the money. They have the means to do it. So we're just curious about the motive for all this that's happening. Like, why is this continuing? Why, like, so.
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A
And Kevin, now, Kevin, so one of the things that I wanted to ask you, you mentioned something about aircraft just now. What. What type of aircraft? Are we seeing those. Those type of search helicopters? Are we seeing anything that may look like it's. And it's. Oh, we have footage of it right there. So walk. Walk us through what you got. That is what this footage is.
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D
Okay, so some of those are. Are drones. But also I did see two, I believe were Apache helicopters. I. I'm probably mistaken there. They did. No, they weren't Apaches. They were probably cargo ones. And. But again, I wanted to know if that was either the army or state police doing daytime combing of the surrounding areas as per requested by everybody. A two to five mile radius of this whole area. And as you can see, more flowers even being delivered now. But. Yeah, yeah, so that would. That would make sense. That would check out for why helicopters will be patrolling the area.
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A
You are. So I just want to. I just want to drill down on this. I just want to roll down. In just a tight sentence, can you tell us, have you seen helicopters up over the area of Nancy Guthrie's house today?
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D
I saw about two. I saw about two helicopters, two military helicopters earlier today, I believe one may have been border patrol, one army. And they didn't quite circle, but they did pass by pretty slowly to surveil the area. Absolutely.
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A
So slow moving helicopters. Now we're talking about how high. Are we talking? Like, you know, they're way up there, or do they seem closer to the ground?
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D
Probably around 1,000ft, I think. Yeah. Not low. Not low by any means, but not high either. So about a thousand feet. Okay, I think whatever.
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A
Yeah, very, very interesting. So, you know, it could be that there are certain, there are aerial searches that are, that are going on. Of course, we know from when Sheriff Lamb came on here recently, he was talking about the different sensors that those helicopters are equipped with, especially with bortac, that they have search and rescue capabilities because that's what they do. They're manhunting for coyotes, for illegals when they make their crossings over, for our traffickers when they cross over. So, yes, able to find an individual is certainly something that they are looking for.
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D
And this is what would be in line with how the FBI has been evolved. Obviously, the military has superior technology to seek what is in the ground or small objects or things that don't appear natural. I mean, we have AI now, for goodness sake. So they're probably utilizing new software and technology to further locate any items or bodies or any kind of clothing, anything, anything else.
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A
Kevin, we're up against. We're up against a hard out. Tell us, you know, real quick, where can people go to follow you? I understand you'll be going on a number of shows as we're reporting throughout the day and throughout the night for Real America's Voice. Where can they follow you?
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D
You can follow me on X and Instagram at Kevin Posobic. That's my real name. Sometimes on Substack and also through Human Events Daily and Real America's Voice here. Field correspondence. Yes, sir.
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A
All right, Kevin Posovic there on the ground in the thick of it with the media circus as well. Nancy Guthrie, the search, the missing woman.
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B
Lee.
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Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.