Human Events with Jack Posobiec, February 17th, 2026

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Human Events with Jack Posobiec"

Episode Date: February 17, 2026
Podcast: Real America’s Voice / iHeartPodcasts
Host: Jack Posobiec
Notable Guests: Dr. Chloe Carmichael (Clinical Psychologist), Libby Emmons (Editor-in-Chief, Human Events & The Post Millennial)

Overview:

This episode is a special edition of "Human Events," hosted by Jack Posobiec, focused almost entirely on what he describes as an “epidemic of trans violence” over the past 12 months in the U.S. and western nations. The show specifically dives into a recent high-profile shooting during a high school hockey practice in Rhode Island, allegedly carried out by an individual identified as trans, and contextualizes it within a wider discussion of mental health, media narratives, and American society’s spiritual trajectory. Expert analysis is provided by Dr. Chloe Carmichael, while the Post Millennial’s Libby Emmons joins to discuss data, media, and youth culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Rhode Island Hockey Shooting & Its Aftermath

Timestamps: 04:00–11:00, 13:45–23:00, Interspersed throughout

• Incident Recap:
  Jack Posobiec covers the case of Robert Dorgan (also known as Roberta Esposito), who opened fire during a high school hockey practice, killing his ex-wife, one child, and injuring others before dying by suicide.

  “Here was a guy whose last ever tweet was a response to Kevin Sorbo... ‘keep bashing us but do not wonder why we go berserk.’” (13:08, Jack Posobiec)

• Discussion with Dr. Chloe Carmichael:
  They analyze the case as a "textbook case of a psychotic break," highlighting both delusion and narcissism, and criticize media underreporting of the individual's trans status.

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2. Framing "Trans Violence": Critique, Controversy, and Media Narratives

Timestamps: 06:00–13:00, 36:00–46:00

• Host’s Framing:
  Posobiec refers to recent mass shootings linked to trans-identifying individuals as an “epidemic” and claims media ignores or downplays these aspects. He criticizes CNN and other outlets for focusing instead on attending memorials and alleged Christian nationalist undertones.

  “You won’t find this anywhere…They will sit there and tell you, you are the problem, when… the trans are the problem.” (07:15, Jack Posobiec)

• Notable Quote:

  “No, you do not make peace with evil. You destroy it. You destroy the evil in your midst before it destroys you. It is as simple as that.” (08:44, Jack Posobiec)

• Media Double Standards:
  Panelists discuss how media coverage refers ambiguously to trans shooters by using dual names and avoids highlighting trans identity unless in positive stories.

  “Mainstream media does not want to talk about these killers being trans…as soon as they want to have your kids be trans or talk about social transitioning…then they’re all over it.” (43:32, Libby Emmons)

• Per Capita Argument:
  “We’re talking about a per capita issue...this is grossly overrepresented compared to their proportion in the population.” (41:28, Jack Posobiec)

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3. Psychological and Ideological Analysis (with Dr. Chloe Carmichael)

Timestamps: 14:00–23:00

• Psychology of Violent Perpetrators:
  Dr. Carmichael discusses psychosis, narcissism, and a pattern of perceived injury/victimhood within some violent trans-identifying individuals.

  “In psychology, we call that projective identification…when I’m troubled by being a liar, I go around telling everybody else ‘you’re a liar.’” (15:27, Dr. Chloe Carmichael)

• Acronym “NIP” for Violent Perpetrators:

  • Narcissism: Overriding self-absorption, abandoning familial duties
  • Injury: Persistent sense of being wronged or victimized
  • Psychotic: True break from reality

  “If you put that together, you have narcissism, a belief they’ve been injured, and they’re psychotic. What a dangerous cocktail that is.” (21:48, Dr. Chloe Carmichael)

• Cultural Critique:
  Both Posobiec and Carmichael lament the loss of America’s “Christian spiritual backbone.”

  “The Christian West has gone weak and that is why we have lost our moral, spiritual backbone.” (08:14, Jack Posobiec)

  “Religiosity…is a protective factor for mental health.” (16:45, Dr. Chloe Carmichael)

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4. Expanding on Patterns: Mass Violence, Trans Identity, and Media

Timestamps: 36:19–46:20

• List of Incidents (Past 12 Months):
  Libby Emmons and Jack Posobiec cite and enumerate several high-profile violent crimes, including double homicides, church shootings, and the assassination of Charlie Kirk, attributed to or involving trans-identifying individuals.

• Discussion on Causation and Correlation:
  While acknowledging not all trans people are violent, Emmons speculates on possible connections between hormone treatments, psychological instability, and violent acts.

  “There does seem to be some sort of correlation—if not outright causation—between demanding people address you according to lies…and engaging in this kind of violence.” (40:28, Libby Emmons)

• Media Avoidance and Political Ironies:
  They note a “strange alliance” of leftwing gun control advocates supporting armed trans rights, and mainstream outlets actively obscuring the issue.

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5. Youth, Technology, and Cultural Disconnection

Timestamps: 49:50–56:30

• Modern Adolescence vs. Pre-Internet Childhood:
  Posobiec and Emmons examine how digital culture and constant connectivity have replaced the “boredom-fueled invention” of previous generations with immersive online worlds, opening youth to new risks—including the adoption or spread of contentious identities and communities.

  “We’ve removed that whole world of just being bored as a kid…what’s replaced it? The internet, Reddit, Discord, Tumblr…they find the groomers.” (51:05, Jack Posobiec)

• Parental Advice:
  Both advocate for limiting screen time and encourage real-world, imaginative play as a buffer against what they frame as ideological “grooming” and psychological harm.

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6. Closing Thoughts: Spiritual & Social Diagnosis

Timestamps: 48:40–58:00

• Need for a “Spiritual Revival”:
  “The need for spirituality, the need to confront evil and destroy it…the need for Christian spiritual revival in our country.” (48:37, Jack Posobiec)

• Parental & Societal Responsibility:
  Libby Emmons:

  “Parents are limiting kids in the wrong way. You want to limit screen time, not social time…better to let your kids run around, even if they break stuff, so long as they’re not breaking themselves.” (54:59, Libby Emmons)

• Final Signoff:
  Jack Posobiec: “As always, you have my permission to leave shore.” (58:19)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jack Posobiec (host):

  • “There are demons straight from the pits of hell that have risen up and are enacting evil in our midst. Do you compromise with it? No, you destroy it.” (08:27–08:44)
  • “It’s disgusting. It’s absolutely disgusting. The entire vile nature of what’s going on…” (07:30)
  • “The mainstream media won’t even talk about it… they won’t sit there—the anti-gun crowd… where’s David Hogg?” (42:41–43:29)
  • “Goosebumps…the whole universe doesn’t exist anymore. And what’s replaced it? The Internet, Reddit, Discord, Tumblr…” (51:13)

• Dr. Chloe Carmichael:

  • “In psychology, we do refer to something as psychotic if it is a true break with reality, which obviously a man believing he’s a woman… I’d look at those in the realm of psychotic.” (15:05)
  • “If we want to be truly kind, what we really should do is not indulge people that have dangerous psychotic delusions.” (16:08)
  • “Religiosity…is a protective factor for mental health.” (16:45)
  • “If you put that together, you have narcissism, a belief they’ve been injured, and they’re psychotic…what a dangerous cocktail.” (21:49)

• Libby Emmons:

  • “There does seem to be some sort of correlation—if not outright causation—between demanding that people address you according to lies…and engaging in this kind of crazy violence.” (40:28)
  • “Mainstream media does not want to talk about these killers being trans…as soon as they want to have your kids be trans…then they’re all over it.” (43:32)
  • “Parents are limiting kids in the wrong way. You want to limit screen time, not social time.” (54:59)

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Important Timestamps & Segments

• [04:00–11:00] — Rhode Island shooting report and context
• [13:45–23:00] — Analysis of trans violence, psychological factors (Dr. Carmichael)
• [36:19–46:20] — Listing trans-identified perpetrators and criticism of media coverage (Libby Emmons)
• [49:50–56:30] — Youth behavior, technology’s effect on culture, parental strategies
• [08:14–08:44] — Jack’s rant on “destroying evil,” the decline of the West
• [21:48–22:06] — “NIP” acronym explanation (Dr. Carmichael)

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Overall Tone & Language

The episode’s tone is combative, polemical, and intensely critical of mainstream media, trans advocacy, and what the host sees as moral/spiritual decay. The language is often confrontational and emotionally charged, interspersed with personal anecdotes and cultural criticism, as well as religious rhetoric.

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Summary

This episode of "Human Events" spotlights a recent familial mass shooting in Rhode Island as a pivot for a broader, controversial discussion of violence involving trans-identifying individuals, which the host deems an “epidemic” ignored by mainstream media. Joined by psychologist Dr. Chloe Carmichael, the show frames such violence in psychological and cultural terms—emphasizing narcissism, psychosis, and a “culture of injury”—while calling for renewed religious values and vigilance among parents. Libby Emmons adds perspectives on youth, technology, and discrepancies in media coverage. The episode combines discussion of recent events, culture war framing, and anti-mainstream media critique—ultimately urging “spiritual revival” and parental proactivity as antidotes to a perceived social crisis.

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Police say a brave bystander was able to subdue the gunman and prevent even more bloodshed.

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A woman claiming to be the shooter's.

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Well, Jack lady back here. Human Events Daily Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. We are here live on Real America's voice. Today is February 17, 2026 Anno Dominique entire year, folks. An entire year. Today Human Event special. We are going to take you back. We're going to go through a compendium of not only the insane trans violence that we saw yesterday at a hockey rink, an ice hockey practice in Rhode island, but we are going to go back all the way a full year to Talk about cases upon cases of the trans violence that we have seen not just by the way, here in the United States, but all across the West. Canada. We've now had two. Two mass trans shootings. Trans mass shootings. We've now had two trans mass shootings in one week. Now, if you go look at the media, you won't find this anywhere. You won't find this information. You won't find this written out. You won't say. You won't find. And cnn, CNN is running hit pieces on the Charlie Kirk Memorial that we put together, calling it a Christian nationalist event. And I got people freaking out because I had a rosary there praying for my friend, praying for my friend who was shot on live TV by the boyfriend of one of these trannies. It's disgusting. It's absolutely disgusting. The entire vile nature of what's going on and the fact that they will sit there and tell you, you are the problem, you are the problem when all of this. No, no, let me tell you something. We aren't the problem. The trans are the problem. That's where this is coming from. That's where the violence is coming from. That's the people that are going after kids. That's the people that are grooming. That's the ones that we've been talking about. They're in the schools. In some cases, they're even in. Yes, I'm going to say it. Even in these woke churches. And what do they do? What do they target? They target the children. They target people who stand up. They target children. They even target, as we've seen just yesterday, they will even target their own children. And you know something? I think our nation does need a Christian revival. I think our nation does need a return to spirituality and true spirituality. You know why? I'll tell you why. Because there are demons in our midst that are running rampant. There are demons straight from the pits of hell that have risen up and are enacting evil in our midst. What do we do? What do we do when there's evil in our midst? Do we compromise with it? Do we tolerate it? Do we make peace with it? No, you do not make peace with evil. You destroy it. You destroy the evil in your midst before it destroys you. It is simple as that. And I'll get the. Oh, Jack, turn the other cheek. What about turn the other cheek? No, you don't turn your cheek, by the way, to evil. And I could digress on that because that meant stand your ground. It didn't mean tolerate evil. No, not evil. That has set out to destroy you, to destroy your people. And every Christian in all of Christendom used to understand that until about 50, 60 years ago. The Christian west has gone weak. The Christian west has gone weak and that is why we have lost our moral spiritual backbone and do not have the temerity and the courage to to stand up and do what needs to be done. The demons are in our midst and only by calling upon and summoning Saint Michael the Archangel can we defeat them. Be right back. Human Events Daily. It's an Olympics you'll never forget. Prime Time in Milan the Moments Chloe Kim with the gold medal Flex the.

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Hi Jack. It's good to be with you. Sorry for the sad circumstance, but I'm glad we're here to unpack it and talk about it.

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Oh, yet again. And I remember one of the times you were on here before in our last special, you were talking about how in these cases that clinically you refer to it as a textbook case of a psychotic break where someone will believe that a falsehood could become a reality so that they actually try to impose this false reality on themselves and others. And then when that false reality, that delusion, right, which is called a delusion, is not accepted, it, it can cause this, this response, a very erratic response. And many cases, these, these include hormones, these include other pharmaceuticals. That are involved and unfortunately can lead to some very, very bad outcomes. I'm sure you've seen this case come across the wire. What are your thoughts?

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Yeah, definitely. And you're absolutely right. In psychology we do refer to something as psychotic if it is a true break with reality, which obviously a man believing he's a woman or a person believing that they're a furry animal. As a psychologist, I would definitely look at those in the realm of psychotic. I just wanted to also go back to some of the things, Jack, that you said in your opening monologue about this as well. You know, you pointed out that whether it be, you know, many members of the trans community or their so called allies that will say that there's something wrong with you if you want to point out, you know, this issue, that they'll say there's something wrong with you. In psychology, we call that projective identification. Right? When there's something wrong, you know, troubling me, say I'm a liar, but then I go around telling everybody else you're a liar. Right. And so I just, I wanted to highlight that, you know, from your monologue. And, you know, you also mentioned the importance of destroying evil, of just, you know, boldly proclaiming that we need to call out and destroy evil where we see it. And I think again, that that's something that often gets labeled as, you know, oh, well, you know, Jackson being unkind or whatever. But actually, I would say what's truly unkind is to ignore and not treat people that are clearly, again, psychotic and who are a danger to themselves and to others. You know, if we want to be truly kind, what we really should do is, you know, not indulge people that have dangerous psychotic delusions that often could even result, you know, in. In the deaths of others. And one final thing you said that I just wanted to touch on is you talked about the need for a revival and the need for spirituality. And this is one of the things that the American Psychological association, for whatever reason, never seems to trumpet. But there's actually a body of literature showing that religiosity, the degree to which a person is religious, is a protective factor for mental health. So why the American Psychological association doesn't call for like, you know, the go to your house of worship month or whatever, like they totally should, but they seem to think it's at odds somehow, even though there's this body of literature.

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Well, no, I thank you. I appreciate that. And look, you know, I don't have a personal background in mental health, but perhaps I have a Familial background in it, just because from a young age, my father. I forget if I mentioned this over to you, that my father worked at a psychiatric hospital for pretty much his entire career. And he just under 30 years was there. My grandmother actually worked there prior to him. This was just in our area, Norstown, Pennsylvania. We had a really big one before they started shutting them all down in the 90s. And the 2000s is really when that closure came to us. And so, you know, it's just something that I learned from a young age that, you know, my father would explain to me that, hey, there's certain people who, you know, they have a different kind of sickness. They have a sickness that maybe you can't see. It's not like a broken arm or a leg or a flu or a virus, but it's something that you need to go to a hospital and get help for. And that totally tracked with me. It just kind of made sense that, okay, this just happens to certain people. They have to go to this hospital and. And get helped with. But, you know, unfortunately, we've totally moved away from that system and we've moved to this new system of where rather than trying to help people in these situations in the name of. Of niceness, that we've instead decided that we should indulge it and that we should encourage it. And in many cases, there is a profit motive for this when it comes to the pharmaceutical industry. And so I appreciate what you said there about the difference between, you know, being kind and say, well, perhaps it's not nice to say that somebody should. Should be, you know, institutionalized, but sometimes. But perhaps it is the kind thing to do when you consider the alternatives.

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Yeah, exactly. Look at, I believe over a dozen people died in New York City thanks to Mamdani's, you know, kindness of not wanting to, you know, drag them off the street out of the freezing blizzard and put them in a place, you know, where they could be warm and receive care. That he wanted, quote, respect their individual freedoms. In that regard, in this case as well, with Robert Dorgan, I was actually thinking about it and I put together a little acronym of the word nip. I was thinking about this trans violence epidemic. When I knew we were going to be talking about this today, I put together the acronym of nip. So the N, of course, is for narcissist. I mean, there's. It's a very narcissistic thing for him to be so absorbed in this, you know, fantasy of being a woman that, I mean, I believe it Led to the end of his marriage. I think that was the grounds that his wife had for filing for divorce. So he not only abandoned his marriage, but he abandoned his children in a sense as well. You know, when a father abdicates his role as a father to his children because he wants to indulge this idea, you know, of, you know, being, quote, a woman, which, again, is quite insulting to women, too, if that's what he thinks that that means, is to, you know, get a boob job and wear lipstick and, you know, then you're a woman. But so I think we can see that narcissism pretty clearly. And then the I is for this dangerous sense of being injured that the many members of the trans community have with this idea, you know, where he had said, oh, you know, keep bashing us, but don't be surprised if we go berserk or, you know, if you question, hey, like, are you sure you're really a. Does that make sense? They say, oh, you're threatening my existence. So they have this deep sense of being injured. And we've talked before about the secondary gains of victimhood if that sense of being injured gives a person what they feel is license to some special privileges. And then the p. Of course, what we just discussed is for psychotic. So if you put that together, you have a sense of narcissism, grandiosity, you have a belief on that person's part that they've been injured and that they're somehow licensed to lash out and, quote, fight back. And then they're also psychotic. They're not really grounded in reality. I mean, what a dangerous cocktail that is to have such a person, you know, just walking around and ironically, being affirmed, being emboldened, it's not kind to that person, nor is it kind to society.

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So the nip, that's not bad. We have to nip the nip. Yeah, you have to nip the narcissistic, injured psychotics. And I think it's so interesting, by the way, that you hear this over and over, they say, you are injuring me. You are injuring me. You are causing. One of the last reply that he had to Kevin Sorbo and some of these other ones, you are making me do this. You are making me snap. And so it's this complete, not only a break with reality, but also a break from responsibility and personal accountability to say that you are certainly still responsible for your actions. You are certainly still responsible for your decisions. No one is forcing you to bring a gun and commit this heinous act. But again, it's something that sticks in there mind and is twisted up in there and and they believe they have this need to react and lash out in the way that they did. We're coming up on a hard break. We're on with Dr. Chloe Carmichael who clinical psychologist who is breaking down everything in the epidemic of Trans violence last 12 months. Right back. Human Events Daily. It's an Olympics you'll never forget. Prime Time in Milan. The moments Chloe Kim with the gold medal. Flex the stars Ilya Malinin out of this world the spectacle from beautiful northern Italy with very special guests. Every night of the Olympics experience the world's biggest show, Prime Time in Milan. Watch now on NBC and Peacock.

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[A]

Yeah, I mean, I would need to know more of the details about why. Exactly, of course, the dynamics there, but that we know that the wife actually filed for divorce partly on the grounds, in fact, she cited narcissism and this, you know, delusion, insistence upon, quote, being a woman. And so, you know, the idea of his ex wife and his children might have been just, you know, very stark, living proof to him of the reality of his life and of who he actually is. You know, he didn't have those kids, you know, as a woman. Right. So that, that might have just been an uncomfortable piece of reality for him. And you know, we were saying earlier that there is this really pervasive attitude throughout, not the entire trans community, of course, but throughout much of the trans community there is this pervasive attitude, you know, that you're threatening my existence if you, you know, say that I'm not really a woman. Or the Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan in Minnesota standing by Governor Tim Wal when he signed in, you know, some really pro trans legislation. She was wearing a T shirt with a bloody knife that said protect trans kids. This was the Lieutenant Governor engaging in this, you know, kind of violent rhetoric that does seem to be really pervasive within the trans community. And so I would call on anybody in the trans community that is against this to stand up and say, no, you are not threatening our existence if you disagree with us. This is, you know, not who we are at all. Yeah, I mean, why, why he would shoot his own family? I mean, I don't know, but I, I would imagine he's on some serious cross sex hormones. He's obviously uncomfortable with reality. And his family may have been a very stark reminder of the reality that he's a man, he's an ex husband, he's a father, and he abandoned those people. He made his own children orphans. He. He abandoned them by abdicating his role as a father to pretend to be a woman. And then he made his sur children orphans by literally murdering, murdering their mother. It's hard to even explain the depths of that narcissism.

[B]

That's actually very interesting. So it comes from the narcissism and then the sense that they don't deserve, you know, to continue on if they don't go along with the delusion. And I'll just tell you because, you know, I'm trying to square that up, I guess, with what happened to Charlie. And you know, in that case, you had a situation where there was an individual, Tyler Robinson, who I believe and all the evidence points to did this. And his lifestyle was also rejected by his family. But rather than target his family, he targets Charlie. And so I think I'm starting to answer my own question here based on our conversation because, you know, he was doing this out of this sense of love, this sense of wanting to protect and care for his, his trans lover. And so therefore he's taking out what he believes is the target of again, the false injury. But it doesn't, it doesn't quite fall into the nipple theory that you laid out before. That's, that's a slightly different, a slightly different kind of diagnosis. This is, this is fascinating stuff. Dr. Chloe Carmichael. I could, I could go through this with you for hours. We'll have to do that at some point but unfortunately that's all the time we have. Tell people where they can go to follow you and get your book.

[A]

Sure. Thanks so much, Jack. Free Speech Today.com if they go to Free Speech Today.com they can get my book and connect with me everywhere.

[B]

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[D]

I'm good, Jack, thanks.

[B]

Well, so this is something I wanted to dig into because we've now seen for the first time, as far as I know, the second trans mass shooting in one week. The first time this has ever happened. And I went to Grok and I said, grok, use the Post Millennial as a source and pull up up all the times where you where you can find criminal activity perpetuate physical violence perpetuated by a trans individual. Here's what we've got. February 15, 2025 Allen Alina Abad Spring Valley, New York double homicide, two women murdered. March 2025. Erin White, previously Evan White, trans identified male. That was vandalism. Severe property damage at the Tesla center in Buffalo Grove, Illinois. March 20, March 2025. Selena Marie Metz, aka Chad Lee Metz, a trans identified female, domestic assault. Punch strangled partner unconscious in front of children in Frankfurt, Kentucky. August 2025. Of course, Robert Robin Westman. The mass shooting at the Annunciation Catholic Church killed two children, injured 17 more. Minneapolis, Minnesota. Weapons had symbols, manifesto referenced other shooters and transition issues. September 10, 2025. Of course, Tyler Robinson. Association with Trantifa Ideology ties from the etchings on the bullets. Of course, this is the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Turning Point USA founder is reading what it says. The Turning Point USA founder at a university event in Utah Valley University. December 2025. Mia Bailey, a trans identified Muslim double murder. Shot and killed her parents and attempted to kill her brother, also in Utah. Then February 10, 2026, Jesse Van Rootslar, aka Jesse Strang. This of course was the killing. Horrific killing up in Canada. Tumblr Ridge. It, let's see, killed mother and 11 year old stepbrother and then six more. So eight total victims killed plus the shooter, suicide and multiple injured. And then of course this, this Robert Dorgan of Rhode Island. So that's, that's all from Grok. And I did have to, I'd had to go through a couple iterations to get that there. I, I'm, I think there's probably a few more though that we, that it didn't get there.

[D]

Any you can think of that we missed? Yeah.

[B]

And that's just in the past 12 months. Yes.

[D]

Yeah, we have many, many before that as well, all over the country. I went to Hannah Nightingale this morning at Post Millennial and I said, hey, you should update that story that we have about, you know, trans shootings in the US and Canada. And she went through and added some more to it. But there are, you know, there are so many of this, so many of these. There was Aubrey Audrey Hale in Nashville. There was Anderson Lee.

[B]

Well, that was 2023. So it wouldn't just look at the last 12 months.

[A]

Right.

[D]

And that's enough. But I'm saying, you know, going back, we have more and more and more. There's Colorado Springs, Lee Aldrich. There's Colorado Highlands Ranch, Alec McKinney, 2019. There's 2018, Aberdeen, Maryland. I mean there's a lot of these cases where we see somebody who identifies as trans and then goes on a killing spree. And it makes you start to wonder if there could perhaps be a connection between perhaps identifying as trans or the drugs that the people who are trans end up taking. There's the cross sex hormones, which I don't imagine that a human body reacts well to getting an onslaught, sort of an overdose of cross sex hormones. I think that really changes a person and it makes things different. Now, I've certainly known plenty of trans people over the years who are not violent, and I understand that. But there does seem to be some sort of correlation for perhaps, if not outright causation between demanding that people address you according to lies, demanding that people just lie to your face all the time, and engaging in this kind of crazy violence.

[B]

Well, of course, what we're talking about here is a per capita issue. And crazy enough, this was the exact question that Charlie Kirk was answering on that campus when and when he was killed. He didn't even get a chance to make the argument. You could obviously finish out the argument and defeat Hunter Kozak's idiotic question, because if you remember, and our friend Mary Margaret Olahan over at Daily Wire has a good piece up right now about this, this push, this initiative at the DOJ to look at whether or not trans individuals should be allowed to full access to firearms. And Charlie was actually someone who had campaigned against that. And I think I'm, I'm probably closer to that category. I think that, that states should really take a look at this and make a severe and serious, serious discussion about whether or not that should happen. And so Hunter Kozak asks him, well, Charlie, do you know how many trans mass shootings there have been? And then he said, do you know how many mass shootings there have been? And he's going to make this argument and you could, you could tell what he's leading up to. He's leading up to this, this which we've all heard a million times. And he's going to say, well, there's more mass shootings that are committed by non trans people than the mass shootings committed by trans people. Therefore your argument doesn't hold water. And of course, the, the obvious rebuke to what he's saying is we're talking about the per capita issue and per capita is okay, but when you look at this tiny sliver of the population, I'm sorry, it's probably, unfortunately, I wish that it was less than 1% of the population was trans identified, but unfortunately it's probably bigger than that. But whatever. The point being is this is grossly overrepresented compared to their proportion in the population. And that's I'm sure what Charlie was going to respond with or what he, you know, obviously, you know, should have and would have responded with had he been given that question. Uh, they're vastly overrepresented in these numbers. We know that it is. And again, it has become a pattern, it has become an epidemic that every time one of these things happen, suddenly, you know, and you and I were looking at this yesterday, suddenly there's a local report that says he may have been dressed as a woman. And suddenly the entire story switches up and Libby. The mainstream media won't even talk about it. They won't even talk about. They won't sit there. The anti gun crowd, you know, and by the way, where's. What's, what's the. Oh my gosh. The, the CNN kid who went to Harvard and he couldn't, even though he didn't have the grades. Who's always talk. David Hogg. Thank you. Yeah. David Hogg, come. Where are you at, buddy? Where you at, bro? Where are you at? David Hogg, where are you at on all this?

[D]

Interesting. When you look at the.

[B]

They won't speak about it, will they?

[D]

No. And when you look at the same people who are opposed to gun rights in the United States, they are actually pro trans gun rights. I don't know if David Hogg falls into that category, but NPR certainly does. NPR is an outlet, is far left and it talks about, you know, how we should have less guns. It backs gun control, every town for gun safety, all the rest of it. But yeah, there are lots of trans gun clubs that have sprung up across the United States. And NPR goes out of their way to detail how awesome they are and they really boost these clubs and the people who are involved. I know that there's some in Utah and there's some in New Hampshire and those are just the ones that I've read about. But you're absolutely correct. Mainstream media does not want to talk about these killers being trans. The New York Times reported about the shooting in Rhode island and said that the individual went by two names. The Washington Post did something similar. Abc, very similar. They're not wanting to say that the person who has committed these acts of mass, horrific violence are trans. Now, as soon as they want to have your kids be trans or talk about social transitioning or how great it is to do sex changes, then they're all over it. This person is trans, that person is trans. And it's all so wonderful. And they talk about the trans representatives like Sarah McBride or Leah Fink or Any of the other ones who have been elected.

[B]

And they'll say, by the way. And they'll say there's no connection. They'll say there's no connection. They'll say there's no connection whatsoever. We're not supposed to. It's the same thing they did with radical Islam. It's. And I remember serving at Guantanamo Bay and I remember when Obama was president and we were not allowed to even write radical Islam in our reports. And they could sit there, hypothetically, they could sit there and say, yes, we are doing this because of our belief in jihad and radical Islam. Ok, I'll write that down. And then suddenly, oh no, no, no, no. You just, you just committed a thought crime. You just committed a hate crime. But that's, but I mean, just, just. They said it. That's their motivation.

[D]

No. Well, truth has no place when you have ideology. And these are all outlets and individuals who place their adherence and allegiance to an ideology above the need for truth and facts. And it's why none of them should be trusted at this point. It makes it very hard to read any of these news outlets when you know that they are willing to lie to protect their ideology. And this is a crazy thing. You know, you can talk about these lies and it's not just that they're lying to us, but they're accepting the lies that are being told to them by perhaps, you know, trans individuals who demand to be called woman. We saw the EU parliament just adopt a non binding resolution to send to the UN saying that trans women are women. And that resolution, excuse me, makes it crazier and crazier.

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[D]

No, it isn't.

[B]

Goosebumps.

[D]

Oh, nice. That's awesome.

[B]

Yeah. The old goosebumps, the old R.L. stine, you know, just getting into some fun, spooky, you know, Haunted Mask and Horrorland and Night of Living Dummy and all this. And I noticed an interesting theme where in the beginning of pretty much every one of the Goosebumps books, and remember, these are written in the 90s, that it's usually, you know, it could be a pair of sisters, a pair of brothers, a group of friends or something, but they're usually bored. And in a small town and being bored in a small town and they're going around and they're looking for something to do and they're, you know, and then they come across a, you know, a store that sells haunted masks or, you know, that's usually like kind of the setup for each of these. And I realized something that. Wait, hold on a second, because I remember you and I were talking the other day about how does someone, all the way up in Tumblr Ridge, British Columbia, you're up there in the Canadian Rockies, you know, how does this person become so far left, so virulently with that ideology? Is that we've, through technology and through the Internet, constant connectivity, we've removed that whole world of just being bored as a kid. There is no being bored as a kid with your friends anymore. It doesn't exist. There is no being bored with a kid. And, and there, there are scenes where the, you know, the, the kids are just kind of walking around and it happens in a number of the books where they, they walk around, they look for other kids in town. They say we get some baseball going or maybe some kickball or, or find out what's going on. That whole universe doesn't exist anymore. And what's replaced it? The Internet, Reddit, Discord, Tumblr, and, and what do they find there? They find of the groomers and so do you see where I'm, what I'm getting at here? Do you see where I'm, where I'm going with all of this? How we've. That was a common experience. But I'm reading them to my kids and, and thinking, you know, I don't know if they have this experience as much now. My kids, of course, by the way, do not get a lot of screen time at all. But it's, it's true that for the vast majority, I think out there, it was just a different world in the 90s.

[D]

Yeah, it really was.

[B]

I used to go, or I should say pre Internet. In the pre Internet world, it was all different.

[D]

Yeah. Or even just Dial up when you couldn't do a lot of stuff, you know, and you just had, like, AOL chat or whatever. But when I would even go so.

[B]

Far as to say pre smartphones, the pre smartphone era. Because then the Internet didn't come with you. It didn't come with you. You know, wherever you were, it wasn't in your pocket. It was something at home. You could check it out. But then when you were out, you were out. And you were. You were out.

[D]

Yeah. And you'd be out with your friends. I think that's a really key thing to say, right, Is that, yeah, our kids are not bored like they used to be. When I was a kid, I would go wandering around in the woods looking for arrowheads and, you know, in the woods of Massachusetts. And that's what we did for fun. We'd make up stories. We'd make up all kinds of things about what going on, where we were. We'd go for bike rides, these endless bike rides. It would be very big to go stop at the Mayants general store and pick up gobstoppers and things. And that was my favorite. But, yeah, this is what we did. We would get bored. We would say to our friends, what do you want to do? I don't know. What do you want to do? And we'd go on like that for hours, trying to figure out what our parents would let us do. And then we just go wander around. I think that's a really big thing. And I think that it's really sad that so many of these kids don't have that opportunity. And the trans stuff has really migrated. Right. It's all across the country. It's not isolated. It's not just in big cities. This ideology has permeated, and it festers in all of the schools across the country, from the littlest towns to the biggest cities. And people need to remember, like, not to let their kids just go crazy on the Internet all the time. You think that your kids are being quiet and parents are happy when their kids are quiet and not running around and breaking stuff. But I think it's much better to let your kids run around, even if they break stuff, so long as they're not breaking themselves and their own psyches.

[B]

Yeah. You know, actually, Tanya and I, it was funny because we got the kids for Christmas, these. These magnetic blocks that they just love so much, and they. They're constantly building, you know, little houses and castles and all sorts of different things with these things. Yeah, they're. They're constantly into it, and There'll be.

[D]

Times are the best.

[B]

You know, where I'll get. You know, where I'll. I'll admit, you know, I'll get home. And I'm like, oh, I want to show some. Some movie to the kids or do something. And, you know, we. We put on Princess Bride for them the other day because it was like, well, it's. It's a. It's a movie about true love. You know, it was Valentine's weekend, and we were trying to. Trying to introduce that. We've shown it to them, but when they were smaller, so I don't think they really remember it. And. And they were just so into the blocks that I couldn't get them away from it. And I. I thought about it for a second. I said, you know what? You know what? It's. Don't push it on them. Don't push on them. Let them play with the blocks. Let them be stimulated. Let them use their imaginations, right, to imagine that it's a castle and there are secret doors and all of these things, because that's something you're creating with your own mind that you are actually actively using your cognitive skills for, rather than having some flashing screen input them and imbue them on you. And so, look, you know, this can be done. And, you know, it's. It's. Yeah, we live in a. In a different world in many cases, but Charlie just wrote a whole book about it. You know, it's the book that's out about stopping the name of God. And, you know, think about that for your kids, too, and think about that from the sense of.

[D]

Of.

[B]

Do I really want to park them in front of the TV all day, or do I want to just let them figure out something fun to do? I don't know. You're a mom. What's your sense on that?

[D]

Yeah, I just want them to go figure out something fun to do. And even now my son's a teenager, and I'm always like, can I drive to your friend's house? Do you want your friends to come over? Is there something I can do where you could, like, go do stuff with other people? You know, I'm constantly trying to push him into being. And he's a social kid. Right. But I'm just like. Like, do more stuff with your friends. You know, instead of talking to them online, go. Go see them in person. But it's not easy for them to all get together in part because I think so many parents now, I'm an older parent when it comes to kids. My son's age. I'm like, you know, as old as their grandparents or something. I don't know what's going on, but these parents are like in their 20s or something. 20s, 30s. And so they are, you know, more helicopter parent style than I am. And there's a lot more limitations on kids. And I think parents are limiting kids in the wrong way. You want to limit kids on screen time. You want to limit kids on watching TV and all of that kind of stuff. Where you don't want to have to limit them is in social time. You don't want to limit their time outdoors. And parents need to relax on a lot of the things and then tighten up where it's important. And parents, I think, need to know that they don't do that as much as certainly as they used to. I know my stepmom used to say, Saturday morning, you know, after my chores were done, she'd be like, all right, get out the house. I don't want to see you till sunset. And I'd be like, okay, you know, I'll see you later. And parents aren't like that now. They're much more restrictive on what kids are doing. And if they can see their kids sitting there in their room looking at TV or looking at their phone, they figure their kid is safe because they're limiting them on all the wrong things.

[B]

No, that's exactly right. Libby Emmons. Where can people go to get your new podcast?

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You can check out my new podcast. It's called the Pod Millennial. This week we had Dre de Matteo on. We had a fascinating conversation and I'd love you to go check that out. You can find all of the links to Apple podcast, YouTube and everywhere else@the podmillennial.com.

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