Human Events with Jack Posobiec, February 3rd, 2026

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Human Events with Jack Posobiec – February 3, 2026

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Jack Posobiec
Guests: Alex Stein, Joshua Lysak, Libby Emmons
Release Date: February 4, 2026

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Main Theme / Purpose

This episode of Human Events with Jack Posobiec offers commentary on breaking news, the politics and culture wars unfolding around the Super Bowl halftime show, the latest Epstein document releases and their fallout, a high-profile court case involving Charlie Kirk’s assassination, and a philosophical debate about American identity, assimilation, and immigration. The tone is iconoclastic, unabashedly conservative, and sometimes provocative, focusing on “America First” values while challenging mainstream narratives.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Epstein Documents & Political Fallout

• Recent Developments:
  • Epstein documents released tying influential figures (e.g., Prince Andrew, Bill and Hillary Clinton) to the late sex offender.
  • The Clintons now agree to testify before Congress after both Democratic and Republican members threatened contempt charges.
  • Posobiec highlights establishment resistance and political maneuvering regarding these investigations.

Quote:
“The Clintons held their ground against Republican Chairman James Comer subpoenas…But after some Democrats said they would join Republicans in recommending contempt charges, the Clintons have now agreed to testify.”
– Human Events Announcer [00:56]

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2. Turning Point USA’s Super Bowl Halftime Show vs. NFL’s Bad Bunny Pick

• Alternative Halftime Show:
  • TPUSA announces a high-profile "All American halftime show" featuring Kid Rock, Brantley Gilbert, Lee Brice, and Gabby Barrett.
  • Posobiec frames this event as a cultural alternative to the official NFL halftime, criticizing the NFL’s choice of Bad Bunny.

Quote:
“Kid Rock should have been headlining halftime shows for years. Kid Rock is someone absolutely that America wants to see at a halftime show…This is a celebration of America, whereas the other guy, Bad Bunny, he’s America last.”
– Jack Posobiec [03:48–05:44]

• Critique of Bad Bunny & “American Identity”:
  • Posobiec questions whether Bad Bunny, as a Spanish-speaking Puerto Rican artist, represents “American” culture.
  • He expresses support for Puerto Rican independence and discusses the symbolic importance of cultural assimilation over “paper citizenship.”

Quote:
“There’s a difference between being an American and just being an American on paper, right? Does a piece of paper make you an American? It doesn’t.”
– Jack Posobiec [06:22]

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3. The Culture Wars & Conservatism

• NFL and “Wokeness”:
  • Alex Stein and Posobiec reminisce about the pre-“woke” NFL, criticizing the league for losing its unique spirit and giving in to conformity and leftist politics.
  • Stein humorously touts his qualifications as a Cowboys fan (“obviously I have a lot of gay pride”) and his surprise at Kid Rock joining the conservative movement.

Quote:
“The NFL used to not be woke. The NFL used to be so cool. And it’s really just lost any charisma or goodwill that it had with the fans…the product stinks.”
– Alex Stein [13:25]

• Addressing Divisions on the Right:
  • Stein aspires for his new show to “bring the right together,” calling out useless infighting and emphasizing the need for unity against common adversaries.

Quote:
“We want to have a country where we can all be successful, and we don’t want to turn our kids into transgenders, and we don’t want to have, you know, government overreach.”
– Alex Stein [16:24]

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4. “What Makes an American?”: Deep Dive with Joshua Lysak

• Immigration, Assimilation, and Identity:
  • Posobiec and Lysak discuss the “magic dirt hypothesis”—the liberal idea that simply living in America or holding a passport makes one American.
  • Lysak argues for a cultural definition of American identity rooted in assimilation, patriotism, and historical narrative, distinguishing between “being American” (culturally) and holding American citizenship (legally).

Quote:
“While that may mean equal dignity under God, being ensouled, that does not therefore mean that every culture is the same…The American enculturation, the values, the heritage—when you see the flag, you say, ‘that’s me’.”
– Joshua Lysak [22:46, 25:25]

• Practical Examples and Policy:
  • Discussion of large-scale Haitian migration into small-town Ohio as a “neo-Babel” project, predicting ethnic conflict and cultural discord.
  • References to historical violence between European immigrant groups as a caution about continued increases in multicultural immigration without assimilation.
  • Posobiec backs a moratorium on both legal and illegal immigration to encourage national unity.

Quote:
“We need a timeout. We need to have a period of, and perhaps decades, generations of the people who are here to learn how to get along and to separate the people who are Americans with those who can actually be American.”
– Joshua Lysak [33:27]

• Bad Bunny as “Influence Operation”:
  • Posobiec suggests Bad Bunny was chosen as a “safe Latino” to sow division among MAGA’s Hispanic base.
  • He warns not to conflate ethnicity with cultural loyalty or patriotism.

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5. Updates: Charlie Kirk Assassination Trial

• Courtroom Transparency Debate:
  • Libby Emmons (Post Millennial) reports on the Tyler Robinson case: defense attorneys working to keep cameras—and the livestream video of Charlie Kirk’s assassination—out of court, citing risk of jury bias.
  • Posobiec and Emmons both argue transparency is vital, given the crime’s public nature and its clear political motivations.

Quote:
“Charlie didn’t get any ability to…have a say in whether or not his murder would be public. He didn’t have the right to privacy. No, he was murdered…and deliberately so murdered on livestream. So…not only would it affect all the people in the crowd, but all the people outside watching…It was, in a sense, a made for TV murder.”
– Jack Posobiec [41:19]

Quote:
“If it’s going to bias people against their client, then it…has to do with their client and not the media and not the jury.”
– Libby Emmons [42:35]

• Justice Delayed:
  • Ongoing courtroom wrangling has delayed the trial, with the defense routinely seeking postponements and arguing over minutiae.

Quote:
“These are just hearings, repeated hearings, to discuss little minutia…every step of the way, and they are delay tactics. Because I think Robinson and his team do not want to face a jury.”
– Libby Emmons [46:16]

• Calls for Full Disclosure:
  • Emmons, Kirk’s widow Erika Kirk, and Posobiec call for all evidence—autopsy, ballistics, videos—to be public, framing the matter as critical to national healing and justice.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Bad Bunny & Citizenship:
  “Let’s cut the crap. Stand up for yourselves, America. We are Americans. It’s as simple as that.”
  – Jack Posobiec [07:08]

• On Identity & Assimilation:
  “If you’re so proud of being Mexican, why aren’t you in Mexico? If you’re so proud of being Haitian, why are you here? Some of you may be American citizens, but you’re clearly not American.”
  – Joshua Lysak [25:59]

• On the Value of Open Trials:
  “Charlie Kirk did not get to determine whether or not his murder would be broadcast live, and it sure was. And I don’t think that the case against the alleged killer here should be held in secret at all.”
  – Libby Emmons [39:39]

• On American Cultural Unity:
  “That idea that being ‘white America versus everybody else’ is historically illiterate…the period of American history was wildly violent between, among the Scots Irish, Catholic Irish, the English, the Dutch… It took decades for people who look like each other to get along. The more people we import, the more ethnic conflicts we get.”
  – Joshua Lysak [31:36]

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Important Timestamps

• [00:56] Fallout from Epstein document release; Clintons agree to testify
• [01:43] Kristi Noem announces body cams for ICE and Border Patrol
• [03:17] Posobiec commentary on TPUSA’s All American halftime show, Kid Rock headlining
• [06:22] Questioning “What is an American?” in context of Bad Bunny
• [10:58] Guest: Alex Stein joins to discuss halftime show and the intersection of pop culture and politics
• [14:38] Stein and Posobiec on the NFL’s decline and “wokeness”
• [22:11] Guest: Joshua Lysak discusses immigration, assimilation, and “magic dirt” hypothesis
• [25:19–27:10] American identity—legal vs. cultural, generational assimilation
• [33:27] Call for moratorium on immigration
• [39:22–48:02] Libby Emmons details the Charlie Kirk assassination case, arguments for open court and full transparency

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Conclusion

This episode exemplifies the “Real America’s Voice” approach: combative, deeply skeptical of establishment narratives, and focused on defining the stakes of America’s cultural and political battles. The hosts and guests urge listeners to demand transparency in public trials, to defend traditional American culture, and to reject both “woke” and “globalist” redefinitions of identity. At the heart is a call to reassert American unity—politically, culturally, and spiritually—through events like the TPUSA halftime show, and through resistance to what Posobiec frames as elite and foreign influence.

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Transcript

[Libby Emmons]

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[Jack Posobiec]

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[Jack Posobiec]

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[Human Events Announcer]

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[Jack Posobiec]

Events with your host, Jack Posobec.

[Human Events Announcer]

Christ is King Fallout and frustration tonight after the release of millions of pages of Epstein documents showing the late convicted sex offenders, ties to the rich and powerful like former Prince Andrew seen in these photos, kneeling over an unidentified woman just days before Congress was set to potentially hold them in contempt. Former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton have agreed to give depositions as part of a House committee's investigation into sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. For months, the the Clintons held their ground against Republican Chairman James Comer subpoenas, dismissing his demands for in person depositions as legally toothless and invalid and slamming the investigation as a political hit job. But after some Democrats said they would join Republicans in recommending contempt charges, the Clintons have now agreed to testify.

[Kristi Noem]

Kristi Noem announcing that body cams will be worn by all ICE and Border Patrol agents effective immediately. President Trump there also mentioning that here in the Oval Office as they post on social media from Kristi Noem saying, I just spoke with border czar Tom Holman, the ICE director, the Border Patrol commissioner, and effective immediately, we are deploying body cameras to every officer in the field in Minneapolis. As funding is available, the body camera program will be expanded nationwide.

[Tyler Robinson Case Commentator]

Another high stakes hearing ahead in the case against Charlie Kirk's accused assassin. Tyler Robinson's defense team fighting to keep key evidence sealed and arguing intense media coverage is tainting the jury pool.

[Alex Stein]

That video of Charlie Kirk's assassination is horrific.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well now Tyler Robertson's attorneys say it.

[Alex Stein]

Should not be shown in court this morning.

[Human Events Announcer]

President Trump is calling on Republicans to nationalize elections.

[Tyler Robinson Case Commentator]

The Republicans should say we want to take over. We should take over the voting. The voting in at least many 15 places. The Republicans ought to nationalize the voting.

[Human Events Announcer]

Turning Point USA has revealed the lineup for its All American halftime show. The conservative group says it's hosting the event as an alternative to the official super bowl halftime show. The announcement follows controversy over the NFL's choice of bad Bunny as this year's headliner. Kid Rock is set to headline with country artists Brantley Gilbert, Lee Bryce and Gabby Barrett.

[Jack Posobiec]

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events daily today is February 3, 2026. Anno Domini and gosh, what can I say guys? It looks like once again Turning Point USA is driving so much in the news cycle, whether it be our incredible halftime show that is lined up for this weekend. Let me tell you something right now. If you had told me a couple of months ago that when I started going rogue and just tweeting about this halftime show, that we would be sitting here lined up looking at a show that is going to have some of the best, best artists, the greatest players on the planet. We're talking about people like Kid Rock who. Let's just be fake. Let's just say right now Kid Rock should have been headlining halftime shows for years. Kid Rock is someone absolutely that America wants to see at a halftime show. You all know that I'm telling the truth about this. You all know that I'm right. Take the politics and all the rest out of it as nothing to do with that. This is a guy who sells them out coast to coast. Then you've got great up and comers. Gabby Barrett, for example, who's from Pennsylvania, just like myself, the other end of Pennsylvania. But that's okay. I'm really excited that she's going to be there. And you know, having got to can't reveal too much, but having got to, you know, interact with the team a little bit there, it's. It's just been amazing seeing it all come together. So I never would have believed this caliber of performers would be there, would be working with Turning Point usa. And it, it's. It's really just a blessing. That's all I have to say. It's a blessing and it's all for Charlie. This is something that's absolutely was Charlie's idea originally. This is something that he and I used to chat about. We joke about it and I would be like, hey, let's you know, do a. What if we did our own show? Because Charlie would always be railing about the halftime shows. And here we are, here we are finally getting it done. It's going to be great. We've got a great theater lined up for this. So you have to imagine it like, you know, like you're like a Grammys performance, like an Oscars performance. One of those big, totally filled, packed to the gills theaters where Everybody's cheering, they come in. And that way it gives us the ability to have the cameras, you know, flying in from all over the place. You get all sorts of angles. It's just going to be amazing. And the whole thing is this is a celebration of America, whereas the other guy, Bad Bunny, he's America last. So let's. Let's talk about the differences, all right? Ours, Pro America, it's going to be in English, you know, the language of America, whereas Bad Bunny is going to be in a foreign language. And I just went and saw his little speech, or whatever you call that thing at the Grammys. The guy speaks in broken English. And this is one of the. So the New York Times ran this story and it's going viral on X and they're saying, oh, you know, some anonymous NFL players said that Bad Bunny isn't an American. And of course, people are saying, oh, technically, yeah, we get this, but there's something deeper here. And we're going to explore that a little bit on the show today. The question of what is an American? And of course, this is a question that I've been asking, going all the way back to Sass of 2024. There is a serious question there. There's a difference between being an American and just being an American on paper, right? Does a piece of paper make you an American? It doesn't. We all know that it doesn't. And you know who you can ask to find that out? Bad Bunny himself. Because he'll tell you that he's a Puerto Rican. He flies the Puerto Rican flag. He's someone who sings almost 100% in Spanish. So let's cut the crap. Let's cut the crap. Stand up for yourselves, America. We are Americans. It's as simple as that. Right back, Jack Posoba, Cuen Events Daily.

[Tyler Robinson Case Commentator]

Band and our way and our golden age has just begun.

[Jack Posobiec]

This is Human Events with Jack Posit. Now it's time for everyone to understand what America first truly means. Welcome to the second American Revolution. All right, Jack Posobic, here we are back, Human Events Daily. Really excited to be here, really excited that we'll be able to do all the things that we're doing today. And by the way, I just want to shout out, because I didn't mention this before in the previous segment, Don Jr. Just tweeted out about our halftime show. Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of War, tweeted out about the halftime show, and perhaps we should have some. And I'm not really at liberty to say, but let's Just say there's some conversations being had about air assets. Simply leave it at that between us and the Pentagon. And of course, the great Vice President 48 himself, J.D. vance, tweeted out about the halftime show. It's. It's amazing. It's incredible. This is the America first halftime show. This is the one that you want to be. Don't be a conservative. Don't be kicking back a Bud Light. No, no, no, no, no. You're going to be pro, pro America. You're not going to go to the America Last, the America hating bad bunny. No, you're going to go to the pro America and halftime show. We're talking about Turning Point usa. Turning Point USA halftime show. This is the one that you want to watch this. And you know what? Just change the channel. Just turn it off. Because imagine, imagine the response that's going to come out when they go back and look at the ratings and all of a sudden it's like, did it boom and the ratings crater. I want a ratings valanche. Okay, that's terrible. Right there in the middle of it. It's going to be so good, folks. I got to tell you, today's partner that we're working with. Patriot Protect scammers and criminals raised the stakes last year, and it's only getting worse. Scams are more complicated and harder than ever to catch. AI clones, voices, texts that sound like your family and friends, and emails are better at impersonating banks. And so much of your information, your name, address, phone number, and some even of your online activities are public, available, publicly available right now, it's not hard to find. What's crazier is that there's hundreds of data brokers openly listing your information. It's often how scammers decide who to target and how identity fraud starts. But this year, the choice is yours. Stay vulnerable or take action with Patriot Protect. The Patriot Protect removes your personal data from the Internet, wiping it from Google and every major website where scammers, cyber criminals and stalkers search for targets. Patriot Protect also deletes your personal information from over 240 people, search engines and data brokers, the exact sites criminals use to case people before they strike. Like it's the peace of mind of knowing that you have your own security team. All for the cost of keeping your porch lights on. We use it. You should use it to start 2026 with less exposure and more control with Patriot Protect at Patriot dash protect/poso. Patriot-protect/poso and use promo code POSO for 15 off your yearly subscription. You never agreed to share this information. Now you can take it back. That's Patriot dash, protect slash, POSO and promo code POSO for 15 off your yearly subscription.

[Alex Stein]

When it.

[Jack Posobiec]

Welcome back to the A guy who we've had on multiple times. I've been on with him multiple times. But now, for the first time as a direct colleague here at Real America's Voice, the new host of After Hours. It is the great Alex Stein, the pimp on the blimp. What's up, Alex?

[Alex Stein]

Thank you for having me, Jack. I'm really excited for the halftime show. You know, I'm a huge Kid Rock band. Ball with the ball, the bang, the bang. He said that book is an up Drop the boogie. So if he plays Ball with the Ball, it'll be better than Bad Bunny is ever. Any song Bad Bunnies ever made.

[Jack Posobiec]

So, Alex, what we're going to. Actually, I wanted to let you know that because, you know, look, Kid Rock, he's got a very expansive touring schedule and it's just something where, you know, if he gets a little sick or, you know, if something happens with your sore throat, with laryngitis, things are going around. If he catches a bug or perhaps China launches a bioweapon at him. Can you be the understudy for Kid Rock? Will you be able to perform Ball with the Ball if, God forbid, something happens to Kid Rock this Sunday?

[Alex Stein]

Well, obviously we don't want anything to happen to Kid, but, you know, if he does get injured, I mean, I think I would make a good second string, second stringer to get in there and just ball with the Ball. But on a serious note though, Jack, when I was a kid, that was my favorite album I listened to, Ball with a Ball so much so it's really kind of cool. Well, but I'm saying it's really kind of cool to think that, like now Kid Rock is part of this political movement that I'm part of. Like, I just would have never envisioned that. It's just weird how the world works. I'm sure you're probably surprised too, that now.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, that's. That's exactly what I was saying before.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah. And it's the way I look at it too is. It's, it's. It too is. In a sense, it's even more than politics. Right. Because we're not like, we're not going to be talking about politics at this event. We're not going to be, you know, Trump is Trump. No, it's not that. It's literally going to be. We've got a great show lined up. It's going to be in this great theater where people can see it. It's going to be like an Oscars performer. It's a Grammy performance. And it's. It's really just kind of like for people who are sick, like Charlie. Charlie used to be sick of these super bowl halftime shows. You can have an alternative to say, you know what? This is kind of like what I'm more looking for in the first place. It's literally just like the America of the 90s and 2000. That's all it is.

[Alex Stein]

Well, you know, Zach, I've been watching this America's Team documentary on Netflix. I don't like Netflix really, but it's just so good, you know? And a lot of people think I'm conservative. I'm anti lgbtq, which is impossible because I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan. So obviously I have a lot of gay pride. But I want to say that the NFL used to not be woke. Like, the NFL used to be so cool. And it's really just lost any, like, charisma or goodwill that it had with the fans. Like, every stadium basically looks the same. They're all going to indoor stadiums because people were complaining in the AFC Championship game for snow. Like the football that I grew up watching, you loved it that the Green Bay packers game was snowing. You respected that the Buffalo Bills game was snowing. But even the fans are basically deluded and kind of brainwashed into thinking that this new NFL is a good product when it's absolute garbage. So, really, if you guys are watching the super bowl, which I know a lot of us are, and I'm a target, trying to expose these ice protesters, you know, causing all these employees a bunch of headaches by returning salt, buying salt and returning it. But my point is, the NFL has gone woke. The product stinks. And I hate to see it. Like, I watch all the clips from the 90s and just see the degradation of the league, how far downhill it's gone. It's. It's an absolute travesty.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, it really is. And this. This should be something where Americans can just tune in and have a good show. That's really all it's about, just having a good show. It's really as simple as that. Now. Now I want to. Speaking of good shows, though, you've got your show up. It's live. It's going to be on. Walk us through every night, 11pm Eastern. Real America's Voice. What's going on. On there. And. And, of course, you know, I have to ask, how are you dealing with the fallout of you being named in the Epstein files?

[Alex Stein]

Well, you know, I'm actually kind of happy to be in Epstein files, because if you're a real pimp on a blip, you're going to be an Epstein files. That doesn't mean that I did anything to children. I was just hanging out. I was on a Disney cruise, Jack. I was on a Disney cruise. I was, you know, and they invited me to the island. They said there's free food and drinks. So what? I'm guilty now? Trust me, I didn't do the same thing as Bill Clinton.

[Jack Posobiec]

But wait, wait, wait, wait. Are you. Are you trying to say that you accidentally went to Epstein Island?

[Alex Stein]

I mean, I accidentally said yes, and then I willingly went. But listen, that's neither here nor there. I want to actually talk about my show for one second about the Epstein stuff. Jack, you're very familiar. There's a very. There's a. Well, I'm saying there's a very. There's a strong rift within the conservative movement. Right. And, you know, I have a lot of nuanced political takes, like, I want amnesty for Big Booty Latinas, which. That's not very popular in conservative media or in conservatism, for that matter. And I kind of want to use.

[Jack Posobiec]

Now, however, Tom Homan is in agreement with you on that.

[Alex Stein]

See, Tom's my guy because he's got that dog in him. But my point is, I actually want to use the show to kind of bring the right together, because that's what they want to do. They want to divide and conquer us. And because we have been winning, our side has been winning, they kind of create these, like, micro fights where it gets a lot of our attention, but it's. It's all just kind of brain rot. Does that make sense? Like, we're fighting over nothing because, like, who's not conservative enough? When in reality, we all want the same thing. We want to have a country where we can all be successful, and we don't want to turn our kids into transgenders, and we don't want to have, you know, government overreach. So I hope my show can, I guess, kind of push buttons of everybody, but also bring people together. Jack. Because I hate to see everybody fighting on the Internet. It makes me really sad to see people that were once friends not that long ago become mortal enemies. It's. To me, it's ridiculous, but I see you defending a lot of the people that I'm going to try to depend on my show. So I think we're like minded when it comes to a lot of the fighting being unnecessary on the right.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, and we need that. But at the same time we also need somebody who's up there who's willing to just take shots at everybody. And that's what I've always appreciated about you, is that you are willing to take shots at everybody and even go. And by the way, let's just face it, Gavin Newsom, the fact that he wasn't named in the Epstein files, doesn't this show that even, like, how far down the list do you have to be where even Jeffrey Epstein considers you a loser?

[Alex Stein]

I know. Well, Jeffrey Epstein. And I think this is why though everybody knows Gavin Newsom was his number one stacker. Sleeping with his wife. Like Gavin Newsom is so sexually disgusting that even Jeffrey Epstein's like, I don't know, I don't know if we should bring him to the island. I mean, at least Jeffrey Epstein probably wouldn't sleep with his best friend's kid. Or I don't know, maybe. What? I don't even try to defend Jeffrey Epstein, but I will say this. If he did give Bill Gates hiv, then, you know, maybe he's not as bad as we think he is. Maybe Epstein has, you know, maybe a little bit of a redeeming quality about himself because honey potting Bill Gates.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, wait, so what are you, are you saying that, are you saying that it's possible that the whole reason that Bill Gates was trying to develop all these vaccines is because he was actually just trying to use that as a cover for curing whatever STDs he got from Jeffrey Epstein.

[Alex Stein]

I mean, I wouldn't put it past them. You look at. And on top of it, why was Bill Gates so obsessed with birth control? Probably so he can go do a bunch of weird sexual stuff and not get caught by Melinda? I mean, Bill Gates is allegedly trying to surreptitiously dose Melinda with amoxicillin so she doesn't catch his chlamydia or gonorrhea or whatever it is. I mean, that's an evil person. If you do that to the, to your wife or the mother of your kids, imagine what you would do to the American public. You would do much worse to the American public. So Bill Gates is a horrible human being.

[Jack Posobiec]

Far, far worse.

[Alex Stein]

Yeah, he's alone.

[Jack Posobiec]

Alex. Alex Stein. Where could people go to get the show every night?

[Alex Stein]

Tonight, 11:00pm Eastern, Real America's Voice. I'm Happy to be co workers with you, Jack. It's an honor and privilege. And like I said, Jack, I really appreciate you actually speaking out. You call balls and strikes and not a lot of people do on our side, and I appreciate you doing that.

[Jack Posobiec]

I appreciate that. Alex Stein. Check it out. After hours with Alex Stein. He is paying penance for his many, many sins. We'll be right back, Jack. So with Human Events Daily.

[Tyler Robinson Case Commentator]

About influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine.

[Human Events Announcer]

Jack.

[Tyler Robinson Case Commentator]

Where's Jack?

[Alex Stein]

Jack?

[Tyler Robinson Case Commentator]

He's got a great job.

[Joshua Lysak]

All right.

[Jack Posobiec]

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[Joshua Lysak]

Pretty well. Despite the fact that the temporary protected status of the various Haitians is now be a federal district judge. Going to be continued. Therefore they are not all going back. A city of 60,000 people gets to keep 15,000 people from another culture with different values that are completely and totally incompatible with central Ohio.

[Jack Posobiec]

So I think you see where I'm going with this, Joshua. If you import 50,000 Haitians to small town Ohio where you live, does that automatically make them American just because you've imported them en masse?

[Joshua Lysak]

Yes. There's this idea that we have come to know as the magic dirt hypothesis, which is sort of built on the quote, America is an idea. Therefore any people, any place that has American, let's say laws or has a constitution, quite like the United States is effectively compatible there. As we are regularly reminded Thomas Jefferson, all men are created equal according to the Declaration of Independence. While that may mean equal dignity under God, being ensouled, that does not therefore mean that every culture is the same. What I see American immigration doing is a sort of globalist project, a bit like the Tower of Babel where everyone comes together, everyone is the same, and the languages get confused and there is complete chaos. It is biblical for different people with different languages to live in different places. Why are we building a neo babble in Springfield, Ohio? Besides to make ourselves feel like we are gods. I highly, I highly doubt this is going to work.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, and so this again, this is something where Bad Bunny presents us a great opportunity to actually have this discussion. Because even though people can say like, okay, well you know, and you know, the fact checkers, the fact checker, Americans will say, well, technically Puerto rico is a U.S. territory and therefore Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens. And it's like, yeah, no, we get that. We're not talking about that. We're talking about something else. We're talking about which culture do you identify with? And I would submit to you that because Bad Bunny, he himself presents himself as a Puerto Rican first. He refers to himself as a Puerto Rican first. He flies one flag, the flag of Puerto Rico. He celebrates his Puerto Rican pride. And in fact, his specific brand of Puerto Rican pride is known as island first, where he wants to maintain that cultural identity. And he has also, because I looked into this, he has spoken out about Puerto Rican identity. And he says that Puerto Rico should not become like Hawaii, where he argues and warns the people of Puerto Rico that in fact, Hawaii was culturally assimilated by the United States. And he doesn't want that to happen for Puerto Rico. And of course, neither do I. That's why I support Puerto Rican independence, full independence for Puerto Rico.

[Joshua Lysak]

That's an interesting perspective. And I think it gets to the fact that something I learned growing up first homeschooled in a very conservative, evangelical sort of subculture, in my mind, until I was about 18 years old, I thought that Americans, or an American, an American citizen, was the same thing as being. We're going from a noun to an adjective. The writer guy here. To be an American was to be American. And I was 18 years old when I realized for the first time that was not the case. Where you have. You may have the citizenship, you may, whether it's Puerto Rican or it's Ohio, like myself or otherwise, but the American enculturation, the values, the heritage. When you see the flag, you say, that's me. Or you say that's my enemy, for example, in some cases, or you identify with one flag or another, or you see people all over parking lots of southwest Ohio, where I live. And you can't help but notice there are Cuban, Mexican, Venezuelan, Honduran, Nicaraguan, and therefore additional ones in people's hanging from little lanyards and little strings inside of their vehicles and parking lots all over, over Ohio. You got bumper stickers everywhere. And I'm thinking, if you're so proud of being Mexican, why aren't you in Mexico? If you're so proud of being Haitian, why are you here? Some of you may be American citizens, but you're clearly not American. Now, that said, there are people from whose ancestors are from other places who have successfully enculturated. And while they may have a different racial background or ethnicity, in my experience, they are American in their culture and their values. They grill and eat up, let's say, bacon, cheeseburgers, just like I do. Even if, let's say they may be from, from, from India.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's so wait. This is a great conversation, Joshua. We got it. We got a quick break. This is a great conversation. We're going to hold you over right back. Humid events daily.

[Tyler Robinson Case Commentator]

Where's Jack? Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack.

[Alex Stein]

Thank you.

[Tyler Robinson Case Commentator]

What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys and these are the guys who be getting Pulitzers.

[Jack Posobiec]

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[Joshua Lysak]

Yes, that gets to it. There's a sense of gratitude whenever anyone talks to Tanya about her experience coming to the United States and now getting to enjoy the privilege of living here versus in, in many cases there being a sense of entitlement with regard to gimmes and stimmies from people from the global south, we call it the developing world. Think the Southern hemisphere and various countries and continents where, oh, there's free money available, there's free welfare, there's free benefits, there's all these things I to get, get, get, get, get, if I can come to the world's economic zone, AKA the United States of America. But the United States is not an economic zone, it's our home. Look at Norman Rockwell, let's say positive propaganda, not a dirty word, positive propaganda about the American experience from the post war period, mid 20th century, that sort of Americana, this vision of an American dream with a husband, wife, house, car, picket fence, two and a half kids, one and a half pets. That is the dream. And it's not just a dream, it was a reality. That said if you live this way, you will have these benefits, you will reap these rewards if you do this work. But as that message got out via global telecommunications. Transportation, logistics, telecommunications like the Internet, over time it came to be. This is what you get by being in America versus the subtle word difference. Being an American. The fruits of the labor of Americans is not from simply being here and getting to defraud us all, whether you're from Haiti or Somalia, but because you live a certain way. Every July 4th, you appreciate everything that was sacrificed by the founding fathers generation. Come the previous days, July 1st, 2nd, 3rd. You think of the battle of Gettysburg that occurred during the war between the States, which is what it's called in the southern states of this day. And of course we all know that that population resulted in the greatest generation by and large, the immigrant populations of that period from the northern, eastern, and Midwestern cities all enculturated with one another through multiple world wars, a Great Depression, and then finally a thriving experience. People don't understand necessarily that Germans versus Swedes versus Italians versus Irish, that was a real, real problem for a significant number of decades as part of American history. Immigrant groups not getting along. And it took decades for people who look like each other to get along. This idea of being of, like, a white America versus everybody else is historically illiterate. The memes of the Bill the Butcher character from Gangs of New York that is now going around with online conversations about immigration. And that period of American history was wildly violent between, among the Scots Irish, the Catholic Irish, the English who had been here for a number of years, the Dutch as well. Immigration has a violent history in the United States, and the more people we import, the more ethnic conflicts we get. And people like Charlie Kirk wisely called for moratorium on immigration. Not just illegal, obviously, but legal immigration. We need a timeout. We need to have a period of, and perhaps decades, generations of the people who are here to learn how to get along and to separate the people who are Americans with those who can actually be American, so that we can reunite the noun and the adjective of American together so we can last another 250 years. What do you think, Jack?

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, that's. That's what it really needs to be. I think there's a couple other things going on here, too, with Bad Bunny, because I think very clearly what's happening is that Bad Bunny is an influence operation that's aimed at splitting maga. So they saw the Hispanic swing to Donald Trump in 2024, and they said, look, we got to find somebody who's like a safe Latino, that we want all the people to come up and say, oh, if you're Latino, you support this guy. And then, see, here's those Americans, they don't support you, these Trump supporters, etc. When it isn't even about that. When you go and look, as we now know, ICE and Border Patrol, a huge percentage of them are actually of Hispanic extraction. So it doesn't have anything to do with that. And in fact, it has nothing to do. It never had anything to do with that in the first place, either. Because the reason the United States maintains Puerto Rico as a territory is because of the naval presence in the Caribbean and now the air presence. If you go look at the F35s, the rest of it, all of those that were flown in the Venezuela operation, To get Maduro. All of that came out of where? Out of Puerto Rico. That's the reason that Puerto Rico is necessary for the hemispheric defense. That's why it made America always maintain that as a base. We also have Guantanamo Bay for the same reason. However, for obvious reasons, Cuba isn't always as favorable to U.S. operations out of Guantanamo Bay. And that's why really the base is only used at this point for detention operations for terrorists and potentially. Don Lemon. We'll see. And so the, the whole point of this, you know, the deal, same as Guam, was that the, the inhabitants of the island were then given U.S. citizenship and it was annexed as a U.S. territory. And so for, because of the military strategy, it had nothing to do with, as you say, assimilation to the country, had nothing to do with culture. It had nothing to do with any of this. It was literally the United States post Spanish American War 1898 coming in and saying, okay, we have these territories now and what are we going to do with them as we expand into more of a great power. Also, by the way, much of this was done by Teddy Roosevelt and Teddy Roosevelt in that same era specifically came out and who fought in the Spanish American War. He specifically came out and said we have no room in this country for hyphenated Americans. And you know something, Joshua, he was exactly right.

[Joshua Lysak]

Be they paperwork American dash otherwise. And of course I like, I like to joke about being NPR Americans or Facebook Americans keeping that dash in there and bringing up bad bunny again. That reminded me something that various NPR Americans will do is they will over exaggerate the pronunciation of various languages that they may or may not speak to try to sound like they're a local. And went viral last night on X was 2024 AD for then candidates Donald J. Trump for president. And it was something like Latinos Poor Trump was the name of the ad. And that reminded me a number of years ago, met a man named Jose Rosado. He's a great follow on X and he has kind of the pulse of Central America, so to speak, culturally speaking. And it was maybe eight years ago he told me something, the effect of Joshua and his wonderful Dominican accent. He said, Joshua, you have no idea how much Latinos hate illegal immigrants. And that was my first word of wake up. Kind of coming out of liberalism and being an NPR American at that time myself. What do you mean? And of course there are a number of Dominicans and Puerto Ricans that I've met through conversations with him that absolutely love being American and being not just America first. But here's the key for immigration and identity. American first. I am deeply proud to use an adjective, American first.

[Jack Posobiec]

I love this Joshua Lysak. Go give him a follow, folks, at Joshua Lyzak, wherever you can get him. We're right back. Jack Masoba, Q and Fence Daily.

[Tyler Robinson Case Commentator]

Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it. And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event. And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.

[Alex Stein]

Amen.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right, Jack, what's up? We're back on with Human Events Daily. Now. I wanted to get in. We do have Tyler Robinson updates the case. Another pre trial hearing scheduled to take place, really just beginning in a couple of minutes. But we do have access to some of the hearing, excuse me, some of the emotions that are going to be put in at that hearing. Libby Emmons, the editor in chief of the Post Millennial and also the host of the new podcast the Pod Millennial, joins us now. Libby, how are you?

[Libby Emmons]

I'm good, Jack, thanks.

[Jack Posobiec]

So walk us through the latest. Am I right to believe that Tyler Robinson's lawyers are now trying to block the video of Charlie being murdered from the trial?

[Libby Emmons]

Yes, that's certainly what it looks like. There's a report out from the AP and we're currently trying to track down the documents so that we can read them for ourselves and get an understanding of what's going on. Today is a hearing for the judge to determine whether or not cameras will be permitted in the courtroom for the duration of the trial. This has been a fraught issue the entire time. And there have been numerous times that the judge has told media and cameras to move back because they are not permitted to show Robinson in shackles. And so his defense attorneys have made a big fuss about this for months. And we've seen that every time that Robinson has been in the courtroom that has turned into some kind of problem. So the hearing today is about whether or not cameras will be permitted in the courtroom. And I think, as I believe you do as well, we've talked about this many times that of course cameras should be in the courtroom. Charlie Kirk did not get to determine whether or not his murder would be broadcast live, and it sure was. And I don't think that the case against the alleged killer here should be held in secret at all. Then. Yes, there are also concerns. The defense attorneys are apparently trying to block the video of Charlie's killing from being shown. It's unclear if they're trying to block that just from the hearing today or if they're trying to block that overall. But they are apparently concerned that there would be jury bias if they were to see something so graphic and horrific in the courtroom.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, and that's the thing, right, because what's, what's, what strikes me as odd here is that of course, Charlie didn't get any ability to, you know, have a say in whether or not his murder would be public. He didn't have any of these rights afforded to him. He didn't have the right to privacy. No, he was murdered and knowingly and deliberately so murdered on livestream. So that. But he wasn't murdered walking out of his car, walking out of his hotel. The murderer waited until Charlie was on live stream to pull the trigger. And the reason for that was so that not only would it affect all the people in the crowd, but all the people outside watching on the live stream. It was, in a sense, a made for TV murder. That's the point. That's why it was a political assassination. And of course, one of the highest forms of asymmetric warfare, asymmetric civil war and terrorism. This is why it is done to strike terror and fear into the hearts of anyone who's watching, knowing, or, you know, trying to send the message that if you do this, know that this will happen to you. And so I think it's disgusting. I think it's absolutely disgusting that they're trying to block this evidence from the jury.

[Libby Emmons]

Yes, I agree with you. I think it's absolutely horrific. And of course, the evidence should be shown. This is going to be a trial to determine a man's guilt or innocence as regards a brutal, politically motivated killing. And I think that the jury has to see exactly what this is about. I think they need to see exactly what happened. It's not every case where you have a video of the crime and there's a video of the crime. And that obviously should be shown in court and should be shown to a jury so that they can help. So that it can help them make their determination during their deliberations. There's no reason to keep it back. And this defense team, what they've been doing repeatedly is talking about how there could be bias and how that bias would prejudice a jury or media or the public against their client. But the fact of the matter is that this is evidence that this is all out there. And if it's going to bias people against their client, then it's it. Perhaps that has to do with their client and not the media and not the jury.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, I love.

[Joshua Lysak]

I love.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, and Libby, I love the, you know, I love the. The double standard here. Because if you take this as being your frame, if this is your, you know, so if this is your viewpoint, then if you take that standard and apply it forward, then. Okay, well, are they. What are they going to ban next? The autopsy report, the ballistics report? Are they going to ban the DNA? Are they going to ban all of these things? Well, it could be prejudic. Be prejudicial, if that's your standard.

[Joshua Lysak]

Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

They're going to keep pushing and pushing and pushing. And look, I understand that that's the point of the system. I understand that's what the defense lawyers are doing. But this team, I mean, saying that you can't show Tyler Robinson on trial because. And the judge made this decision because there might be lip synchrons. I'm sorry, I don't remember Kyle Rittenhouse ever getting that when he was on trial. I certainly don't remember Kyle. Anyone saying that. Kyle Rittenhouse could have the ability to not be on camera. He was on camera for every single second of that. But you know what else? Kyle Rittenhouse wasn't scared to be on camera because he knew he was innocent.

[Libby Emmons]

Yes, I think that's exactly right. And there's no reason at all that we shouldn't be able to see the suspect in this case during the trial and during these hearings. I think it's absolutely a wrong decision by this judge who is placating these defense attorneys where clearly they should not be placated. That's not what should happen here. The country is entitled to justice. Justice in this case. And as you said, this is a case that has affected the entire country, it's affected people worldwide because of the way that it was shown, it was live streamed. And because additionally, in the aftermath, we saw every step of the way, right? I mean, the FBI came out and released footage of the suspect leaving the scene of the crime. And that is what encouraged Tyler Robinson's parents to come forward and say that they believed it was their son and to help him turn himself in every step of the way. This has been a very tech heavy case. This has been a very public case in every aspect of it. And I think that it would be absolutely wrong to turn off the cameras now. We need to see what's going on there. And I think that it's really. I think that it's really important that we all see it. And that's why we've been advocating so hard to have cameras in the courtroom. And we're not the only ones. Right. Erica Kirk came out. Charlie's widow came out and said that she thought that the cameras should be in the courtroom as well. And she's also put together an appeal to have a speedy trial. There have already been so many delays every step of the way. The defense team has said, no, we can't do this. We need to move this to another time. And this case is still not on trial. I think that's important for people to realize that the case has not hit trial yet. These are just hearings, repeated hearings, to discuss little minutia as to how the trial should be conducted and what should be permitted at trial. But I don't think we're actually going to see the trial commence until June or something at this rate, because they're just going little tiny step by little tiny step, and they are delay tactics. Because I think Robinson and his team do not want to face a jury, and I don't think they want to face justice.

[Jack Posobiec]

That is absolutely right. And I commend Erica for. I haven't discussed any of these motions with Erica. Just, you know, cards on the table there, care or anything like that. That's obviously between her and the lawyers. But at the same time, you know, I think it's incredible that she's doing this and stepping up, saying that it should be a speedy trial and that she wants full transparency. The American people deserve transparency. They deserve this entire thing to be public. I've always called for, if there's a report on the autopsy, put it out. If there's a port in the ballistics, put it out. I don't have to rely on, oh, somebody said something. No, put everything out. If there's more video, I want that out as well. Just put it all out. Because this is the world we live in now. We live in the world where people go over things. They go frame by frame. They did it with Alex Preddy, they did with Charlie's videos when they came out. It is just reality. And so because of the fact that Charlie's murder was live on tv, I think that all of the evidence should be broadcast as well. Because if this guy's going to get a fair trial, which I agree that he should, I certainly agree that he should, that I want everything done by the book. But at the same time, I think the American public deserve that as well. Libby Emmons, tell people about the new show and where they can get it.

[Libby Emmons]

You can come check out the Pod Millennial. You can go to thepodmillennial.com for all of the links. And I invite you especially to check out the show today because it features Jack Posobic, who's, of course, your favorite TV host. So I think you should definitely go check it out.

[Human Events Announcer]

Thank you.

[Jack Posobiec]

I hear you got a great guest all lined up for today. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.