Human Events with Jack Posobiec, January 13th, 2025

Summary

Human Events with Jack Posobiec — January 13, 2026

Main Theme and Purpose

This episode blends in-depth analysis of ongoing ICE operations in Minneapolis with a heartfelt tribute to cartoonist and commentator Scott Adams, who has recently passed away. Host Jack Posobiec is joined by ICE Director Todd Lyons to dissect the realities behind the federal presence in Minneapolis and its legal, social, and political ramifications. The latter half shifts tone, as Posobiec, joined by guests from the Scott Adams community including Joshua Lysak and Kevin Posobiec, remembers Adams’ legacy as a thinker, writer, and influential online voice.

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ICE Operations in Minneapolis: Setting the Record Straight

Key Discussion Points

The Real Story Behind the DHS Surge

• Todd Lyons discusses why Minneapolis became the focal point for increased ICE operations, citing:
  • A massive “Smalley fraud, daycare fraud, social welfare fraud” totaling nearly $9 billion as the original trigger for action. [01:19]
  • Longtime ICE presence in Minnesota; federal agents have operated there for over two decades.
  • Minneapolis’ sanctuary city status complicates cooperation, increasing the risks and burdens on ICE teams.

Mainstream Media Misconceptions

• Lyons argues that media portrayals of federal overreach ignore both the criminal context and ICE’s longstanding local presence. He refutes the “invasion” narrative:
  • “We've always been in Minnesota... We're already there conducting our law enforcement mission.” [02:05]

Sanctuary Policy Consequences

• ICE detainers, typically a seamless process in most states, are not being honored in Minneapolis.
• Over 1,360 (closer to 1,500) ICE detainers have not been honored, releasing serious offenders—including those with convictions or warrants for violent crimes—back into Minneapolis' streets. [04:22] - [05:30]
  • Lyons: “Why would you not want to turn [a serious offender] over to the federal authorities that could then handle that case to the next step?” [06:09]
• Lyons details shocking cases:
  • Offenders with prior convictions for kidnapping, strangulation, wanted for murder, or sexual assault of children being released locally. [06:36]
  • “Same day as Secretary Noem was out there, we had two individuals that were released for aggravated sexual assault of a minor.” [07:24]

Escalation of Protest and Lawlessness

• Violent agitators and orchestrated protests are increasing risks for ICE operations.
• Vehicle ramming attacks against agents have become “the norm,” with over 100 incidents just in the last three weeks. [08:37]
  • “It’s just common, the norm, like you would think there’s a playbook right now and that’s what they're using.” [09:15]

Law Enforcement Isolation

• Minneapolis police and Minnesota state officers are not assisting ICE, increasing danger and strain on federal agents.

Officer-Involved Shooting Update

• Lyons provides limited details but underscores the urgent need to “tone down this political rhetoric,” suggesting demonizing ICE has real safety consequences for all involved. [10:19]
  • “No one ever wants to see a deadly force incident... But the political rhetoric and the demonization of ICE has to stop. And it has to stop with elected officials first.” [10:37]

Notable Quotes

• Jack Posobiec: “What the mainstream media is showing is our reaction to all the protesters, the violent agitators, ... after us getting on scene and trying to arrest one of these criminal illegal aliens.” [03:20]
• Todd Lyons: “All you have to do is notify us ... We'll meet you at the back door. But these law enforcement agencies have already deemed this person a public safety threat. Why would you not want to turn them over?” [05:39]

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Remembering Scott Adams: His Legacy, Influence, and Wisdom

The Passing of Scott Adams

Announcement and First Reactions

• Jack describes being scheduled for Scott Adams’ regular morning show, only to learn of Adams’ passing moments before air via Scott’s ex-wife, Shelly, reading his final statement. [15:19 - 17:13]
  • “You could see her face. It was just written all over her face ... she said she was going to read Scott’s last statement.” [16:09]

Scott’s Last Words

• Adams’ prepared farewell addresses both faith and skepticism, with his classic humor and candor:
  • “I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and look forward to spending an eternity with him. The part about me not being a believer should be quite quickly resolved if I wake up in heaven.” —Scott Adams [11:58]
  • “I am now convinced that the risk reward is completely smart ... I also have respect for any Christian who goes out of their way to try to convert me, because how would I believe you believe your own religion if you're not trying to convert me?” [12:40]

The Simultaneous Sip & Scott’s Community

• Jack leads the “simultaneous sip,” one of Scott Adams’ trademark rituals—even as a gesture of farewell. [17:39 - 18:21]

Family and Community Reflections

• Kevin Posobiec, a daily “Simultaneous Sipper,” emphasizes how Scott's voice became part of the family household and introduced the world to Adams’ concept of “reframes”—mental perspective shifts to improve well-being. [22:34]
  • “He didn’t have to do any of that. But he loved, he really loved his community ... You can tell when somebody has the Holy Spirit moving through them.” [24:06]

Most Impactful Books and Ideas

• Scott's book, Reframe Your Brain, is discussed as a “collection of reframes—changing your perspective to change your results,” with practical examples such as gamifying social anxiety or reframing beliefs about alcohol and success. [25:30 - 26:51]
  • “Success depends on who you know ... to: Success depends on how many people you know.” [26:54]
  • “If you get called a basket case or crazy ... just understand that ... everybody is like you.” [27:10]

The Books and Philosophy of Scott Adams

With Editor Joshua Lysak

• Joshua describes Adams’ humility and willingness to treat collaborators as peers.
  • “Scott treated me not simply like a peer, but like a trusted advisor ... He had a humility that he taught us through the reframe about ego, where he says that ego is a tool.” [30:37]
• Reframe Your Brain (2023) is highlighted as Adams’ magnum opus, integrating insights from decades of professional and personal experience, and presenting “the highest density of hypnotic persuasion worked into it.” [33:02 - 34:22]
  • “He was the first person to take the entire body of work from the profession of clinical hypnosis ... and make it accessible and practical for the everyday person ... and he set many free, perhaps millions of people free to be the person they were created to be.” [42:33]

Adams’ Political Influence and Prescience

• Scott Adams—“the Dilbert guy”—became one of the first celebrities to predict and support Trump’s 2016 victory, introducing the seminal “two movies on one screen” model for explaining political polarization. [35:01 - 36:20]
  • “He really broke it down so clearly, but with such great analogies as a comic would—just imagine being in a movie theater and watching two movies on one screen ... Instantly understood what he was trying to communicate to us.” —Kevin Posobiec [35:57]

Adams’ Predictions and Enduring Relevance

• Jack recalls finding Adams’ 1997 book, The Dilbert Future, and being unable to find a single bold prediction that hadn’t aged well.
  • “I started opening the book, and I'm like, oh wait, well that came true ... I couldn't find anything in the book that he got like blatantly wrong.” [43:31]
• Adams’ coining of “induhviduals” precedes the internet-era NPC meme by decades, showing his insight into media and mass psychology. [45:38]

The Wisdom of Scott Adams: Life Lessons

• Joshua outlines why Adams’ philosophy will live on: a timeless, accessible system for “reframing” reality in order to create success, happiness, and resilience, compared to the enduring proverbs of King Solomon. [40:57 - 43:31]
  • “His advice was timeless ... I expect we'll see the same thing with Scott. In the event that there remains a place called the United States ... there will be Americans who are leaning on the wisdom of that great patriot Scott Adams.” [41:05]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Lyons on Sanctuary Cities: “How are you protecting the public if you re-release a felon back into society?” [06:09]
• Scott Adams (farewell): “I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and look forward to spending an eternity with him ... The part about me not being a believer should be quite quickly resolved if I wake up in heaven.” [11:58]
• Jack Posobiec on Adams’ Predictive Record: “I couldn't find anything in the book that he got like blatantly wrong ... it actually struck me as even more ... I was like, darn you, Scott, somehow you've outwitted me yet again.” [43:31]
• Joshua Lysak on Adams’ Impact: “Perhaps millions of people free to be the person they were created to be. And I can't think of anyone who has that much of an impact on as many people for as much a period of time as our Internet dad, Scott Adams.” [42:33]

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-----------|--------------| | 00:49 | ICE Director Lyons on mainstream media and Minneapolis operations | | 04:22 | ICE detainers, sanctuary policy, and criminal releases | | 08:37 | Vehicle ramming trend and protest escalation | | 10:19 | Officer-involved shooting, rhetoric, and ICE demonization | | 11:58 | Scott Adams’ spiritual farewell | | 15:19 | Jack Posobiec recounts learning of Adams’ passing | | 17:39 | The “simultaneous sip” in Adams’ honor | | 22:34 | Kevin Posobiec & Adams’ community influence | | 25:30 | The importance of “reframes” and Adams’ books | | 30:10 | Joshua Lysak on working with Scott Adams | | 33:02 | Best Scott Adams books and sequencing | | 35:01 | Adams’ role in Trump’s 2016 campaign & “two movies” metaphor | | 40:57 | Joshua Lysak: Adams’ legacy and life lessons | | 43:31 | Jack on Dilbert’s predictions; prescience for the future |

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Final Thoughts

This Human Events episode masterfully intertwines hard-hitting reportage on immigration enforcement in a politically charged city with a resonant, wide-ranging celebration of Scott Adams’ unique role in American culture, thinking, and political life. From cautionary tales about ignoring law enforcement cooperation, to the healing, practical perspective shifts of “reframes,” listeners gain both practical knowledge and philosophical nourishment. The episode closes rooted in community, memory, and a shared vision for carrying forward both actionable wisdom and the “America First” ethos.

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Stay tuned for more from Human Events Daily, as Jack Posobiec and guests continue to bring urgent news and perspective with clarity, conviction, and heart.

Transcript

[Jack Posobiec]

This is an iHeart podcast, Guaranteed Human. This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare. A commentator, international social media sensation, and.

[Todd Lyons]

Former Navy intelligence veteran.

[Jack Posobiec]

This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobic. Christ is king. Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events daily. Today is January 13, 2026 Anno Dominique. We are honored once again to have here on Human Events Daily, the director of ICE, Mr. Todd Lyons. Todd, thank you so much for joining us today.

[Todd Lyons]

Thanks, Chad. Good seeing you again.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, Mr. Director, obviously a lot has changed since the last time you and I spoke right there on the south lawn of the White House. I've just gotten back from Minneapolis myself. Human Events does have a crew that's there on the field. What can you tell us about these operations in Minneapolis that the entire country is talking about? And specifically, I guess I would say, what do you think that the media is getting wrong about the narrative here?

[Todd Lyons]

I think the first thing, Jack, that the mainstream media is really missing the point on is the fact that they're kind of painting this as an invasion of the Department of Homeland Security resources, that there's such a big surge and overreach of the government. But what I think a lot of people are losing sight on is two really key things. Number one, the reason, what got us there in the first place, the, the fraudulent behaviors when it came to the Smalley fraud, daycare fraud, social welfare fraud, at the tune of almost $9 billion. Right. So we did front load a lot of Homeland Security investigation special agents up there for that. So that was number one. Number two, obviously Minnesota, Minneapolis in general is a sanctuary city. So we were already conducting our lawful law enforcement missions while we were out there. You know, ICE has always been in Minnesota for ever. Since the inception of ice, I would say for two decades plus, we've had a field office for enforcement removal operations, as well as a SAC office special agent in charge for Homeland Security investigations up there. So we've always been in Minnesota. So we have seen such an increase of criminally illegal aliens that were not turned over to ICE or other federal authorities and re released back onto the streets of not only Minneapolis, but Minnesota. So we were already there conducting our law enforcement mission. Now you take those two parts and incorporate the fact that what the mainstream media is showing is our reaction to all the protesters, the, you know, the violent agitators, the vehicle rammings, etc. After us getting on scene and trying to arrest one of these criminal illegal aliens. We usually make an arrest 5, 6 special agents, deportation officers. Now we're having to go out with almost 15 law enforcement officers just to, you know, provide security for that team making that arrest. So, obviously, Minneapolis police were not coming to our help. Minnesota State Police weren't coming to our help. You know, yesterday there was a press conference from the Attorney General, Keith Ellison, and from the mayor that talked about the reason why they were suing dhs. And they highlighted the fact that we're not in Texas or Florida or Utah. Well, what I say to that is when we do conduct our operations down there, a, they are turning individuals over to us, and B, if we have a situation like this, local and state law enforcement partners come to our aid and help federal law enforcement officers. We're not seeing that. So there are so many incidents that the mainstream media is showing that is just totally unavoidable because of these violent agitators and protesters that are being fueled by such political rhetoric all across this country.

[Jack Posobiec]

Now, Director Lyons, I've got some of the stats here as well, and the numbers that I'm looking at, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it says Minnesota and Minneapolis officials have refused to honor over 1,000, 360 ICE detainers. And for folks who don't understand this, the way a detainer works is that means someone who's been arrested for something else that they just hold on to, hold onto them in custody, and then remand them to ice. Now, because they're not honoring these detainers, that's the reason why these operations have to take place. But because in other states where you do have that level of. Of local law enforcement cooperation, or I should say really local political cooperation, because that seems to be what the hang up is.

[Todd Lyons]

These.

[Jack Posobiec]

These handoffs can happen at a jailhouse. It can happen at a courthouse, a prison site, something where it's safe, it's controlled. But now when they're just letting them out into the public, that's what's creating such a dangerous situation, not just for your agents and officers in ICE hci, but also for the public at large. Do I have that right? It's almost 1500 that they haven't honored.

[Todd Lyons]

Yep, almost 1500. If you look at it right, Jack, you make a great point to the fact that I would much rather have the men and women of ICE go into a secure location. You know, even if they don't want to hold them the 24, 48 hours for us to get there, just notify us that, hey, in the next two hours, we're Going to release this individual and we will come meet them. We'll meet you at the back door. But you know, one thing that you always hear about these agencies or state officials say, you know, they don't have to honor the ICE detainers, which they don't. But what boggles my mind is the fact that these law enforcement agencies have already deemed this person a public safety threat. You've already taken the actions and the steps to arrest and detain this individual. Why would you not want to turn them over to the federal authorities that could then handle that case to the next step? It absolutely makes no sense when they talk about sanctuary cities, protecting the public and protecting neighborhoods. How are you protecting the public if you re release a felon back into society? You know, I'll go back to Secretary Noem's just recent ride along with us up in St. Paul and the case that was highlighted. It was an individual that was let in under the last administration. It was known at the time that he had a conviction of 10 years plus for kidnapping, strangulation, and he was wanted in Ecuador for murder. He came into the United States. He is accused of sexual assault of a child in Connecticut. Fled Connecticut with this open warrant and was now roaming the streets, working, hiding in plain sight in Minneapolis. I don't know anybody that wants to argue with me on the fact that ICE isn't protecting children and protecting neighborhoods when we're out arresting people just like that. And that's the 1300 that you talk about. You know, same day as Secretary Noem was out there, we had two individuals that were released from Rice county, which was close by. They had been released for aggravated sexual assault of a minor. So why would any politician want that individual back in their neighborhood?

[Jack Posobiec]

And we see this again and again, just like the one out in Portland where, you know, at first we hear that it was a man and woman. Now it turns out there are a couple of trend. Aragua linked some kind of sex trafficking operation. Just some of the most horrible stuff that you see going on. And it's clear, by the way. And I remember the last time you came on, that's exactly what we talked about. You said, that's the worst. Go first, that those are the individuals that are gonna be focused on. This isn't people who are just sort of, you know, running around. It's actually people who have committed these heinous, violent crimes. Now, when we look at that red Ford, you mentioned the ramming attacks, and I wanted to drill down on that a little bit. Obviously, we've seen the incident that's gone throughout the country, throughout the world. People are talking about it. But tell people about the ramming attacks that have gone on as a persistent trend, because this isn't the first time we've seen something like this, is it?

[Todd Lyons]

No. And unfortunately it's really increased within the past several weeks. We can narrow it down to the past three weeks. We can say right up, maybe the week before Christmas. We've seen over, just alone with ICE, not counting our other federal partners, over 100 vehicle ramming, assault incidents with the car. We first saw this trend in maybe mid summer when we saw a lot of resistance, a lot of agitators, a lot of folks showing up at a law enforcement scene that had no right to be there. And all of a sudden we have, you know, US Citizens, these other people injecting themselves into an ICE arrest and using their vehicle to ram or impede special agents or deportation officers, thinking that there weren't going to be any repercussions. So in the beginning, we saw the first few and we just couldn't believe what was going on. U.S. attorney's office was helping us. They were making the arrest. It was great. But now it's just common, the norm, like you would think. There's a playbook right now and that's what they're using. And you know, even the criminal legal aliens now know, go ahead and just ram ICE vehicles, take off, drive through fences, try to run officers over, because day in, day out, that's a constant tool and impediment we're seeing not only in Minnesota, but all across the country.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, and certainly that it doesn't help when you have these disruptors that are showing up clearly fun, clearly orchestrated, that are then aiding and abetting in the escape of these criminal illegal aliens. Direct lines. I know you have to run here. Just have a minute left. I did want to ask though. We know there's an investigation now that's pending into the officer involved shooting. Are you able to give us an update on that investigation at all?

[Todd Lyons]

Well, I can still. No, you know, what I can say, Jack, is that we're working with our federal partners with the FBI, Department of Justice. We're looking at all aspects of the case. But hopefully, you know, there'll be a lot of lessons learned from this. And I think on both sides, we have to go ahead and tone down this political rhetoric. And unfortunately, I truly believe that that's what led to this unfortunate incident. You know, our hearts, minds and prayers go out to everyone that's involved. No one ever wants to see a deadly force incident. No law enforcement officer ever wants to be involved in a deadly force incident. But the political rhetoric and the demonization of ICE has to stop. And it has to stop with elected officials first.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, I couldn't agree more. Director Lyons, thank you so much for your time. And our thoughts and prayers go out to the efforts of. Of your many agents and officers that are putting themselves in harm's way to take care of cleaning up our streets and cleaning up our country.

[Todd Lyons]

Thank you, Jack. And again, we really appreciate your continued support and it's great seeing you again.

[Jack Posobiec]

God bless you. All right, folks, we'll be right back here. Human Events Daily. That's Director Todd Lyons of Immigration Customs Enforcement.

[Kevin Posobiec]

Right.

[Commander Bavino]

Nothing will stand in our way. And our golden age has just begun.

[Jack Posobiec]

This is Human Events with Jack Posoba. Now it's time for everyone to understand what America first truly means. Welcome to the second American Revolution.

[Scott Adams (voice or reading)]

Many of my Christian friends have asked me to find Jesus before I go. I'm not a believer, but I have to admit the risk reward calculation for doing so looks so attractive to me. So here I go. I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and look forward to spending an eternity with him. The part about me not being a believer should be quite quickly resolved. If I wake up in heaven, I won't need any more convincing than that. I hope I'm still qualified for entry.

To my Christian friends. Yes, it's coming, so you don't need to talk me into it. I am now convinced that the risk reward is completely smart. I also have respect for any Christian who goes out of their way to try to convert me, because how would I believe you believe your own religion if you're not trying to convert me?

I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and look forward to spending an eternity with him. The part about me not being a believer, she should be quickly resolved if I wake up in heaven.

[Joshua Lysak]

Yeah.

[Scott Adams (voice or reading)]

You know what's the weirdest thing is that AI happened at the same time my book was going to come out, and it turns out there's a sort of an intersection that makes sense. We figured out that you could make something like intelligence just by looking at word patterns that already exist, that people have already spoken or written, and that just looking at the patterns and frequencies of words, you could produce something like intelligence. Well, this is something hypnotists have known forever. I'm also a trained hypnotist, so reframes are basically a little code of words that you can Insert into your brain just by reading the sentence. And much like the way AI works, you can actually reprogram your brain with just words.

It's just word, word, word, word, and then an LLM as you. I've always thought your explanation of an LLM is the best because it's just predicting what the next word is going to be or the next string of words. And they use, use mapping to do this. And so people who don't have an object, an object view, an object model of reality like computers could, because computers can't understand reality the way that we do, at least. Or perhaps we have a better object view. That's why people aren't computers and computers aren't people. But the, the real interesting thing that Devin Erickson is talking about is there's a lot of people you meet and they could be, they could be doctors, they could be experts, they could be researchers, they could be scientists. And the minute that you, that you sort of question their language model by referring to something in reality, it all sort of falls apart.

Yeah, that's the kind of conversation I love. Who is a, who's a person who's an npc? Yeah. I keep thinking I'm gonna wake up in a game chair, find out. The whole thing was like a one hour experience, but I thought it was my life.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right, so folks, Jack Posobic, we're back live here, Human Events Daily. This morning I was originally scheduled to do a live stream on Coffee with Scott Adams, where Scott Adams, the cartoonist, of course known as the creator of Dilbert, would come on every morning, 10am Eastern and would write the, you know, go through the news of the day and reframe it in a way that, you know, that'd be interesting and always have a great spin on it. And he was someone who supported Trump and explained Trump. One of the earliest really. Probably the first celebrity to come out and say that he supported Trump and that he thought Trump would win. Incredible author urge everyone to read the books and as so just to kind of tell the story from my perspective. I guess what happened this morning was he'd been doing his last couple shows. He'd been having sort of guests and longtime followers and subscribers come on. And it was sort of just a chatting with Scott kind of meet up. And they asked if I would come on this morning around 9:30am I said of course, I'd be more than happy to. So I got home to grab my mug. And then right before we, we all went live is when Shelly Adams came on and Shelly had been so Scott's former wife, but they're still very close. And she came on and you could. You could see her face. It was just written all over her face that you know what had happened and didn't. Didn't need to ask. And she said that she was going to read Scott's last statement, which she did.

[Joshua Lysak]

And.

[Jack Posobiec]

I believe. Guys, do we have. Do we have video of the intro from today that I ended up doing or. We'll check on that. With the. Yeah, with the sip. Yeah, let's play the sip. So they asked me to do the sip. Yeah.

[Scott Adams (voice or reading)]

No, I said I'd be honored.

Awesome.

[Jack Posobiec]

I didn't think I'd be doing two shows like this, so close to each.

[Scott Adams (voice or reading)]

Other, but here we are. So, folks, as everyone knows, all you need is a cup, a mug or a glass, a tankard, chalice or stein, a canteen, jug or flask, a vessel of any kind. Fill it with your favorite liquid. We like coffee. And join us all now for the unparalleled pleasure, the dopamine hit of the day, the thing that makes everything better, even saying goodbye to old friends, the simultaneous sip.

[Jack Posobiec]

And it happens now. Go to Scott.

[Scott Adams (voice or reading)]

To Scott. Thank you, Scott.

[Joshua Lysak]

And.

[Jack Posobiec]

So I haven't really talked to everyone in the Scott Adams community, his local community, his friends, his supporters there, his family, but I understand there's some plans to keep that community going forward. And we're gonna bring on some people from that community here in a minute. But since we only have a minute till the break. But I just wanna let everybody know that it's locals.scottadams.com that if you want to go, if you want to be there, people are just sharing things. People are getting involved, people are getting the mugs, of course, spreading the legacy of Scott Adams, which was so much more than the cartoon. So much more. Which was a great cartoon, by the way, bringing people together. Being a Trump supporter in those early, early days, 2015, 2016, going on Joe Rogan in those early days and explaining and making the case for Trump and always being there with the family, being close. Laura, Ivanka going in and of course, meeting with President Trump. President Trump putting up a truth social, of course, calling him the great Influencer. I think that's exactly right in the photo of the two of them in the Oval Office together is an incredible thing. We'll be right back with more of the life and legacy, the great influencer, Scott Adams. Right back. Human Events daily.

[Scott Adams (voice or reading)]

Today.

[Commander Bavino]

You know, they talk about influencers. These are influences and they're friends of mine.

[Scott Adams (voice or reading)]

Jack. Where's Jack?

[Commander Bavino]

He's got a great job.

[Jack Posobiec]

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[Kevin Posobiec]

Hey, Jack. How's it going? Good to be here, but I'd like to take this experience up a notch. And oh, I'll raise a glass here to the absurdly humanitarian and great influencer Scott Adams. May he today be simultaneously greeted by angels.

[Jack Posobiec]

Amen. Take this up a notch. That's right. That's what Scott would always say. So, Kev, just talk about how. I mean, Scott Adams was someone who Our whole family, from you, me, mom and dad, Tanya, Tay, the kids would hear his voice every day. He's always been a member of the Post Hole household, not just the Daily show, but increasingly his books. And this is something where folks, if you didn't listen to the Daily show, which is just. It is what it is, you kind of had to be there. Kevin, tell me a little bit about some of the importance of Scott Adams is incredible books. And you can. You can pick whichever one you want.

[Kevin Posobiec]

Well, sure. I have a couple of reframes that were personal favorites of mine. And I want to say what. What's a refrain?

[Jack Posobiec]

What's.

[Todd Lyons]

What's during?

[Jack Posobiec]

So what's a refrain?

[Kevin Posobiec]

But during. Yeah, well, especially during COVID The periscopes that he had, man the simultaneous sips. And he would get people together during the lockdowns and have a second show at nighttime where he would even do like the simultaneous swaddle. And I mean that was just next level. Nobody else was doing that and he didn't have to do any of that. But he loved, he really loved his community and talk about the Christianity thing. You can tell when somebody has the Holy Spirit moving through them. And he was. His spiritual level was off the charts and but yeah, two of them are. His most recent one was about social anxiety in the reframes where if you could be at a party and have trouble introducing yourself to people, maybe you've never been to prom and whatnot. He said if you could reframe it, just go up to the hostess, you know, you can always kind of find out who the alpha woman is of the party. They love that. And she will kindly introduce you to another person and then you can take that and simply duplicate it. And the way Scott says it is you could be the hero of the party by just introducing yourself to other people, not only for yourself, but to help them. And through my own work, I heavily related to that. And just the way Scott was with his words just did wonders. And he even said it in the stream. It's, you know, you could be the lifesaver of the party. And there's no dispute in that. Like everybody's there.

[Jack Posobiec]

So for folks who. Kev, real quick. So for folks who don't know, Scott had this great book, one of his last books. I have to double check because he did some like re releases and edited by the great Joshua Lysack, who also co wrote on Humans and Bulletproof with me and Scott is who introduced me and Joshua. So like that's how we got Together. But he had this incredible book, reframing your brain. And it's just. It's just changing the operating system to your thoughts. Changing the operating system. I think it was 20, 23, and we had him. He came on Human Events when it came out to talk about it, and it was. The idea is changing if you change your perspective on a situation. And you mentioned. Yeah, that's one of his most famous ones, social anxiety. Going to a party. You know, think of it as a game. Think of it as. And you're scoring points in a game rather than having to go and be with people that you don't necessarily need facts. It's just. You're changing your whole perspective. And in fact, gamification is one of the big ones. But it's this whole book where it just goes reframes, reframes, reframes. One of the ones that I know that he did with drinking. For a lot of people, alcohol is poison. Just. Alcohol is poison. Just say that in your mind. Alcohol is poison. That's like something that people can relate to. So reframe your brain. This incredible way of. I've got a couple here. Reframe. Reframe manager.

[Scott Adams (voice or reading)]

Time.

[Jack Posobiec]

To manage your energy. Hold on one sec. And then reframe. Oh, I think you just kind of explained this. Success depends on who you know to. Success depends on how many people you know. That's right. What's the basket case? 1.

[Kevin Posobiec]

It ties into the social anxiety thing. And it's just a matter of reason, really, where it's like if you get called a basket case or crazy or if you think differently than the majority of people, just understand that, hey, like, you might not know everybody at first. They're strangers, but once you get to know them, you realize that there are also basket cases, too. And everybody kind of has wild thoughts and sometimes intrusive thoughts and. And to just acknowledge that everybody is like you. And, you know, I'm not unique, but, you know, there's no way there can only be one basket case in this whole world. So that's also alleviating, especially when you go into.

[Jack Posobiec]

Just a great way to hear. Kev, we've got. We're coming up on that break again, and we'll be right back. Afterwards.

[Joshua Lysak]

We want to.

[Jack Posobiec]

Also, we're going to bring on another friend of the great Scott Adams talking about his life and his legacy as a member of the MAGA movement, Human Events Daily.

[Joshua Lysak]

And Jack.

[Commander Bavino]

Where's Jack? Where's Jack?

[Jack Posobiec]

Where is he?

[Commander Bavino]

Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack.

[Scott Adams (voice or reading)]

Thank you.

[Commander Bavino]

What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys and these are the guys who've been getting bullishers.

[Jack Posobiec]

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[Joshua Lysak]

Thank you for having me on, Jack. Kevin, good to see you.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, and it's as we know, certainly, and this is kind of impromptu and hopefully we'll be able to put together more of a long form show at some point on all of this. But Joshua, just aside from just the books, reframe your brain. Lose or think win bigly. Talk to us about what it was like working with Scott Adams.

[Joshua Lysak]

What I appreciate about Scott and our relationship is that he of course had been publishing and writing stuff before I had been born. And when you have that level of difference between, let's say the services provider and the client, you can kind of expect there to be something like an imbalance. But from the get go, Scott treated me not simply like a peer, but like a trusted advisor. And when we were working on sections of Reframe your brain. I would make a suggestion about an area and he would say, okay, go ahead and write what you want there. That sounds good to me. And that level of trust that he provided, you tend not to see from someone who has as high a profile and as established as a. As a brand. I guess you could say that Scott kind of. He ruined me for future authors, I.

[Jack Posobiec]

Guess you could say.

[Joshua Lysak]

But he had a. He had a humility that he taught us through the reframe about ego where he says that ego is a tool. It's something that you can turn on or off. You can dial it up or dial it down as needed. And he very much so did embody that in our relationship.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, that's incredible. So when you would work on something, because you even went in for reframe your brain, that was a book that. Were you the initial editor on it or just the second edition?

[Joshua Lysak]

That was the first edition, yes.

[Scott Adams (voice or reading)]

Okay.

[Jack Posobiec]

I'm thinking of, you know what I'm thinking of? God's debris. That's what I'm thinking of.

[Joshua Lysak]

Yes. We did work on a third installment together, and I did come in towards the beginning of that one. Yes. That was fun. Talk about the pleasure of a career working on fiction with Scott Adams.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's really cool. So. So Joshua hit. Hit some of those. Those books for. For all of us to. To go through. So there's Loser Think, I think is the. The. The first one you got to get as you can really. You can if you wish one a whole. Actually, no, I'm wrong. It's how to. How to fail at everything and still succeed is.

[Todd Lyons]

Is.

[Jack Posobiec]

Is the first one. And then Loser, you know, maybe reframe your brain. But you know what's interesting is actually, now that I think about it, I think I've debunked myself in my own mind because you don't really need to pick anyone to start with. You could start anywhere, can't you?

[Joshua Lysak]

You can, yes. In terms of which book has the most sort of Scott Adams lore in it, I believe Reframe your brain. That was his latest one. That's nonfiction from 2023. That's. That's a first edition book. The others, of course, like Winn Bigley, the second Loser. Think second edition. How to fail Almost everything is to win big Second edition. Those do have some bonus content, some new material, particularly the Winn Bigley second edition, because that was sort of reflection on the first Trump administration. Additional prediction analysis, what Scott got right, to what extent he got it, how the book was even deployed within the Trump administration the first time around, which is fantastic. And also his analysis of the 2024 presidential campaign. But of all of them, I, I tend people to reframe your brain first because it's sort of a collection of Scott's greatest hits from some of his previous books, plus his most recent, thinking on life progression. So how. How do you get where you want to go in life the most? I say that the has the highest density of hypnotic persuasion worked into it. And of course, it's consistently the number one bestselling book in hypnosis category on Amazon.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's incredible. So, Kevin, jump back to you a little bit because it was really 2015, 2016 on Twitter when many of us who were, you know, we're out there were doing things. The Trump movement had just gotten started. And then along comes this guy. I remember, Kev, what did it, what did it feel like when all of a sudden, you know, the guy who's the Dilbert guy suddenly starts talking about Donald Trump and how he thinks he's going to not only win, but also be a great president? Just, just talk us through what it was like in that era when everybody was writing Trump off.

[Kevin Posobiec]

Well, in that era, you and I were closely tied into it, and there wasn't really, like you said, any, any famous voices supporting Trump in such a way. And as we know, like, Trump himself was a previous celebrity. And I gotta tell you, through Periscope and whatnot, one of the first times that I came to be introduced to Scott was through the classic, now famous, the two movies on one screen. And that he was breaking it all down for us through watching the legacy media in that he would watch CNN and these other legacy medias while Fox would be saying another thing. And he really broke it down so clearly, but with such great analogies as a comic would just imagine yourself being in a movie theater and watching two movies on one screen. And I said, wow, Boom. Instantly understood what he was trying to communicate to us. And that helped me understand on such a macro scale that this is what we're experiencing. And I was just in Minneapolis, so I was witnessing this firsthand. So we have, as director Lyons was just on and speaking to, is that you have on one side, ice operations lawfully conducting what they need to do, and on the other side, just blatant reckless protesters, antifa cells, all this. And, and, and so it's no longer just a movie. This is happening in real time. And, you know, thank goodness. And I want to touch on Commander Bavino too. He he kind of reminds me of Scott in that these leaders need to be composed and understand the psychological projection that is happening here in real time to be an effective leader in that way and just understand these people are just. They're just watching a different movie. And that is unsettling to accept, but that is also reality, and we're dealing with it in real time.

[Jack Posobiec]

We had direct Lyons on just talking about this. You know, I can remember just sitting there kind of scratching my head. And, you know, back in 2016, in that time, it's like the Dilbert guy, really. And, you know, be honest, that I definitely remember. So I was a big. Kev, you remember, I was a big crossword puzzle guy. So dad would always start the crossword puzzle every morning at the Norristown Times Herald and would, you know, would. Would start the crossword, but he would always leave a bunch unanswered. And he would go, I left you the easy ones. And then I'd pick it up and I'd read and I want to do the crossword puzzle. And then I'd, of course, read the cartoons. And then eventually I started reading the articles and then all this happened. But I remember Dilbert was one of the ones where. I have to say, I didn't get it at first. I totally didn't get Dilbert because I was. I don't know, I was still, like, in grade school and then high school, and I was just. I hadn't been in that environment yet. And then it wasn't until later, you know, I started working in offices, interning, and then other places that, oh, I totally get. So it's something I got as I was. You know, it's definitely not written for. For the younger crowd, but, I mean, you look at this guy, nobody else would. Would come out. And you think about it, too, the same way that, what are the celebrities doing now? They're attacking ice. But Scott Adams was one of the first ones that came out, and he stood with Trump the same way that you're not seeing other. No celebrities are coming out for ice. No, they're all attacking ice. They're attacking this agent who's, by the way, an Iraq War combat veteran. And this was a guy who, not only did Scott Adams come out and support Trump, he advocated for him. Kevin, give everyone your coordinates.

[Kevin Posobiec]

You can follow me on X and Instagram and now substack as well. Writing, posting, covering all kinds of things. Follow me there.

[Jack Posobiec]

Thank you so much, and stay tuned. Kevin's still there in Minneapolis. Big things to come. Joshua Lysak will stick with us. The last segment here, Human Events.

[Commander Bavino]

Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it.

[Todd Lyons]

Go get it.

[Commander Bavino]

And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event. And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.

[Jack Posobiec]

Amen. All right, Jack Posobic, we are back here, Human Events Daily. We're on with Joshua Lysak, who edited many of Scott's books. And Joshua, you've got you wrote a piece last year for humanevents.com about some of the life lessons, the wisdom of Scott Adams that went on to be. I was actually just informed of this because we're going through sort of our end of year review. I was actually informed that ended up being one of our top [e-mail] for the entire year. So even beyond scoops, exclusives, et cetera, all everything that we did it was that your piece on Scott Adams that ended up being one of our top for the year. You're back. Today, a really interesting piece@human events.com it says, it says, Scott Adams, 1957-2026. I loved you all to the very end. And it opens like this. On January 13, 4026, a full two millennia from today, someone somewhere will be discovering Scott Adams work for the first time in their life, and it will change their life forever. Joshua, walk us through your piece today and why you wrote this.

[Joshua Lysak]

Thank you, Jack. Scott Adams was the Mark Twain of King Solomons. His advice was timeless. It was perennial. And I brought up before the break that some of his, let's say, greatest hits and highlights that appear in Reframe youe Brain 2023 first appeared in 1997, the Dilbert Future. So Scott had seen the future. He knew what was going to be valuable, what was going to be useful. So many of the of life, business, career, money management, health, wellness, lifestyle, fitness, social skills and mental health. He had figured it out a very long time ago and had literally decades to test it, to perfect it even, and to prove it out. So often when there's a public figure and they put some advice out there, there's not necessarily a feedback loop to determine if they were right or wrong. But in the same way that the Proverbs of Solomon in the Bible have proven themselves out for more than two millennia, I expect we'll see the same thing with Scott. In the event that there remains a place called the United States of America and a couple millennia from now, there will be Americans who are leaning on the wisdom of that great patriot Scott Adams. And who knows what the English language will sound like at that point. There might be future editions and translations of his work by that point, but his wit and his charm and his way to issue simple, direct advice is remarkable. And I think he was the first person to successfully take the entire body of work from the profession of clinical hypnosis, which of course has centuries behind it, innumerable numbers of peer reviewed studies behind it, but he was able to take that out of the clinical context and make it accessible and practical for the everyday person to have like little micro hypnotic trances that reprogram them for success and happiness and in many cases relieving people of depression, anxiety, other concerns that would have held them back. And he set many free, perhaps millions of people free to be the person they were created to be. And I can't think of anyone who has that much of an impact on as many people for as much a period of time as our Internet dad, Scott Adams.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's tremendous. By the way. I actually, so funny enough, I was at this used bookstore a couple of years ago and I saw this copy just running around and I saw this copy of that same book, the Dilbert's Predictions for the Future that came out in 97, and I picked up a copy of it and I was like, I was like, oh, this is going to be such a good troll opportunity because I'm just going to be able to find all these predictions that he got wrong. And then I was like, I'm going to tweet them out and totally mess with Scott and this is going to be so fun. And I started opening the book and I'm like, oh, wait, well that came true. And this thing about the Internet, oh yeah, that definitely happened. And then like we said, well, people are going to be connected over times and spaces and darn it that, like every single page and I'm looking through, trying to find some kind of receipt. And to, you know, I'm like, I'll really blow him up. Or, you know, like, you know, you know, put him on blast on, on Twitter. Because this is of course, like, this is what you do when you're friends with me. I couldn't find anything, I actually couldn't find anything in the book that he got like blatantly wrong. It was just not a thing at all. And it actually struck me as even more, I think I texted him about it at the time. I was like. And I was like, darn you, Scott, somehow you've Somehow you've outwitted me yet again even before. Yeah, we, we, we started this, this crazy dance. It was tremendous. I got to find that somewhere because it was, it was really tremendous. There's even, there's even a comic. I've got to find this up where he predicts the rise of Trump all the way back in the 1990s. He predicts it and it's, it's like Dogbert explaining, I think it's Dogbert explaining it to Soviet Dogbert. You remember the one I'm talking about?

[Joshua Lysak]

I don't, I, I, it's familiar but I couldn't tell you the, the caption of the comic, the text.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, it's, it's something like. That's something. He goes, he goes, he goes. And so you're, and so your leader, you're so your leader is this Donald Trump. And Dogbert goes. I don't think it's official yet.

[Joshua Lysak]

You know another that was in 1991.

[Jack Posobiec]

Just yes, yes, mind boggling.

[Joshua Lysak]

Another sociopolitical prediction from that book that Scott got right and back in 97 nowadays term called NPC, right. For non player characters, people who are easily programmed by the media, particularly Internet based media in the Dilbert future. Scott Adams made this term called in duh vigual individual. But duh is right there in the middle. Middle he described as individuals are people who because they're so sophisticated and tech savvy, they get their news from the Internet. And it's because they're now on the Internet they're accessible to even more misinformation, disinformation, malinformation. As educated as they now feel because they can use this exciting new tech, the information superhighway, the World Wide Web to become informed, they are in fact learning less factual information than ever. Those are the individuals that we could expect to see more of in the past the millennium was what Scott termed it. I did a whiteboard video on this last night, Jack. People are, we're now saying that in the same tradition of God's debris, kind of like those of us who were his sort of Internet kids, let's say we're now Scott's debris. And one of those special little shards that meant a lot to me was the teaching technique of whiteboards. So I bought myself a whiteboard and I did a video about individuals in that book last night. So low production quality but in the, that never bothered Scott. You know, he just kept plowing ahead. So I will continue to do so and carry on that little piece of his Legacy.

[Jack Posobiec]

So you got. Wait, can we see the whiteboard? Where's the whiteboard?

[Joshua Lysak]

Oh, it's not here. It's. It's at the house. It's at the house. That's where I did it.

[Scott Adams (voice or reading)]

The guys.

[Jack Posobiec]

The guy's teasing us with a whiteboard. Well. Well, I mean, this. That's. I. I appreciate you doing that, Joshua. And as someone who worked with Scott, someone who knew him so well, is someone who was right there with them. You. You and I would not have met, you know, on Humans and Bulletproof and New York Times list and all the rest like that, just directly because of Scott's influence and so many of the things that Scott was influential in and so many of the people he talked to, which. And you mentioned this in the op ed today, the memorial, I think, that you wrote for Scott. It's going to be private, and it will always remain private. And there are things and conversations and situations that Scott Adams had an influence in that just because of sensitivity, will never be made public. But people know who he knew, and people saw his Rolodex, and people saw how fast certain individuals, for example, your favorite president tweeted out about Scott Adams, the great influencer. Joshua, where can people go to follow you and get Scott Adams work?

[Joshua Lysak]

Thank you. I'm on X and everywhere else. Oshualysik. I contributed to the second editions of many of his books. Also the first edition of Reframe youe Brain. Of course, those are also available on Amazon. I have the editor credit on those. And I'm the editor and publisher of the upcoming Scott Adams biography that's authored by Scott's longtime friend, Joel Pollack.

[Jack Posobiec]

I can't wait to read that. It's just going to be absolutely tremendous work. And I was honored, of course, to be on with Scott this last Sunday and just. Just hanging out with Scott there. And one of the final episodes we did. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore. This is an iHeart podcast, Guaranteed Human.