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Jack Posobiec
This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
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Oren McIntyre
A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran, this is Human.
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Jack Posobiec
Events with your host, Jack Posobic. Christ is king.
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Unidentified Supporter/Fan
We're cracking down on more than $19 billion in fraud that was stolen by Somalian bandits. Can you believe that? Somalia. They turned out to be higher IQ than we thought. I always say, these are low IQ people. How do they go into Minnesota and steal all that money? Canada gets a lot of freebies from us, by the way. They should be grateful also, but they're not. I watched your prime minister yesterday. He wasn't so grateful. Canada lives because of the United States. Remember that mark the next time you make your statements. Certain places in Europe are not even recognizable, frankly, anymore. They're not recognizable and we can argue about it, but there's no argument. And I love Europe and I want to see Europe go good, but it's not heading in the right direction. The United States avoided the catastrophic energy collapse which befell every European nation that pursued the Green New scam, perhaps the greatest hoax in history. The Green News scam. Windmills all over the place. Destroy your land. Destroy your land. Every time that goes around, you lose $1,000. You're supposed to make money with energy, not lose money. The more windmills a country has, the more money that country loses and the worse that country is doing. We never ask for anything and we never got anything. We probably won't get anything unless I decide to use excessive strength and force where we would be, frankly, unstoppable. But I won't do that. Okay? Now everyone's saying, oh, good. That's probably the biggest statement I made because people thought I would use force. I don't have to use force. I don't want to use force. I won't use force. All the United States is asking for is a place called Greenland, where we already had it as a trustee, but respectfully returned it back to Denmark not long ago. After we defeated the Germans, the Japanese, the attacks, Italians and others In World War II, we gave it back to them. So we want a piece of ice for world protection, and they won't give it. We've never asked for anything else, and we could have kept that piece of land and we didn't. So they have a choice. You can say yes, and we will be very appreciative, or you can say no, and we will remember.
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Jack Posobiec
All right, folks, Jack Paso. Look, we're here. Davos World Economic Forum. President Trump just Got done speaking right behind us here. You can see the stage is now being set for Milei, who's going to be speaking later. President spoke really forcefully about Greenland, making the case for the sale based on national security, missile defense, strategic missile defense. The point being that there's other ICBMs. If fired from the Eastern Hemisphere, those powers, Iran, Russia, China, if fired at Washington, D.C. would fly almost directly over the territory of Greenland. Also bringing up the military history of Greenland, pointing out that it was the United States that defended, militarily, defended Greenland after Denmark fell to the Nazis in World War II, provided so much for the military defense of Greenland during that year. During that time, also a huge point that he made coming out, strong nuclear coming out for further development of oil and natural gas in the North Sea. But wasn't long. But he made a strategic reference and a strategic statement that the west cannot accept people from cultures, foreign cultures that have never created security, successful countries of their own. He specifically mentioned the Somalians in Minneapolis and of course, making a reference to the mass migration crisis here in Europe throughout this continent and the remigration that he has endorsed in the past. Jack Kovic here at the World Economic Forum, Davos, Switzerland. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. We are here live in Davos, Switzerland, inside, and as you can see right behind me, the World Economic Forum. Yes, we are here with the globalists. But do not worry, folks, because I did not eat Z bugs. I did not live in zipot, I did not sleep in zipad. No, no. In fact, I brought my own food. I've been here the entire time. President Trump still in the building. And we are told, by the way, that in moments he may actually be transiting right over here. And if that happens, he's going to walk by, we're going to, we're going to grab the camera, we're going to go over and see if we can say hi to him or go at least, at least let you guys see what it's like here. It's been an absolute madhouse. Historic speech by President Trump throwing down. Operation Greenland has begun and it's begun right here in Davos, Switzerland, in the headquarters of the World Economic Forum. Larry Fink of Blackrock is here introduced President Trump earlier today. Gavin Newsom has been running around and I had the opportunity to ask him a question. We're going to play that for you in a little bit here. But really the main thing for everyone, the United States is back on the world stage. The United States with President Trump not just taking a supporting role, not just taking a side role, a tertiary role, background, character, an extra if you will. No, the United States is taking the lead role. The leader of the free world is in the building. We are at the World Economic Forum, Human Events Daily bringing you into the belly of the beast. Jack Posoba hear real America's Voice. Do not touch that dial. Don't even think about it, don't even dream of it, because you're not going to miss what comes next. Stay tuned.
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Unidentified Supporter/Fan
In our wave and our golden age has just begun.
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Jack Posobiec
This is Human Events with Jack Pos now it's time for everyone to understand what America first truly means. Welcome to the second American Revolution. All right folks, Jack Posobic, we're here live. Davos, Switzerland. Human Events Daily want to say a huge thank you to the entire real America's Voice team. You've got absolute patriot warriors that are here on the ground. Mason and Luke, these guys have been banging and clanging going all the way up and down the Alps to do all of these live shots, all of these shows. Myself also covering down for Brian Glenn. Also want to say thank you to Parker, the real America's Voice team, for giving us the support to be here and to be able to actually film and do our show live in Davos, Switzerland. Of course, for those who who recall, this is not the first time we have done human Events daily in Switzerland, although it is hopefully the first time that we're going to be doing the show without being detained in the middle of the show, which is what happened when we were here four years ago, folks. The biggest medical hack of 2025 was several peer reviewed studies identifying the direct connection between anti parasitic medications having off label benefits that fight a wide variety of cancers. And this makes sense. The connection between tumor growth and parasites has been known for years. While the CDC remains silent, they have admitted that millions of Americans suffer from parasitic infections that often go undetected or undiagnosed. This is why Dr. Peter McCullough, Chief Science Officer at the Wellness Company and the world's most published cardiologist says these studies make a clear case to do at least one medical grade parasite cleanse annually. The Wellness Company's proprietary USA compounded Ivermectin Meadnole is a doctor prescribed gold standard combination dose designed to help the body eliminate parasites plus other incredible benefits. Each bottle contains 90 capsules, enough to complete four 21 day cleanses. This high strength formula can't be found at your local pharmacy, but the Wellness company Removes the red tape by making the digital process full, making the process fully digital. Fill out a quick intake form, a doctor reviews it and your medical grade parasite cleanse arrives in just one week. It's time for a new year. New you reset your own health, head to TWC Health/POZO and use promo code Posto to save $60 off plus free shipping. That's USA residents only. Okay folks, just to give you a little bit of the traffic schedule here. So President Trump, if you understand where I'm standing, this is the World Economic Forum. This is the atrium. This is right here where the annual meeting is held, Congress Hall. So where President Trump spoke is right over here to my left. And President Trump, where he's holding those bilateral meetings is just down the hallway over here. So you've seen a number of the meetings. He's conducting them right now. I believe he's in a NATO meeting. He of course met with the head of Switzerland. He met with, with El Sisi of Egypt just before the show began. Chancellor Mertz of Germany just walked by. He was kind of holding court. Gavin Newsom has been running around. President Trump is expected to make a to come around this corner here any minute now. And so we've got a secondary camera that's set up over there. We'll go live to that when it happens to see if he is taking questions, to see if he's addressing anyone. But as that is coming forward, I wanted to bring on for some commentary our good friend here on the podcast on Human events daily, Aaron McIntyre of the Blaze and the Aaron McIntyre Show. My friend, how are you doing?
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Oren McIntyre
Well, thanks for having me.
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Jack Posobiec
So, Arin, one of my favorite things and I think some of your work can be really, really helpful here is so President Trump comes in and he just looks at Greenland on the map and says, I want to buy that. And it's so incredible because this is sort of like the old version of statecraft. You know, we're talking Monroe Doctrine, Dunro Doctrine. It's almost an 18th, 19th century type of statecraft. But here at the World Economic Forum, the Danes refused to even come the Ursula von der Leyen. So many people. Mark Carney, by the way, attacked Trump and then refused to even be in the building, in the room. He flew back to Canada before Trump even spoke. It drove them absolutely nuts because he's not playing with their system. He's not going along with their world order. And by the way, Mark Carney of Canada actually admitted, keep in mind, this is the former chief ran the chief Bank, Central bank of Canada and the Central bank of England as well as being the UN climates are which he tries to, doesn't try to remind people. He said he actually admitted that there was a world order. And he says, but that order is passed because of Trump and the rise of autocracies. And I'm like, I'm going to go. I said, mark, what did you just say about this world order that apparently we were all members of, but you were. We were told it was a conspiracy theory to even bring it up. Or I love. You can just break down this, this total mismatch here.
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Oren McIntyre
Yeah, we love to hear about the rules based international order or you know, these different global governance initiatives. But what could any of those words be other than a synonym for a New World Order for a global government? That's exactly what the guys at WEF and many of these other organizations think that they are ultimately creating. And for a long time, American presidents fell in line with, with that understanding, in many cases believing that they were actually at the head of this thing. But ultimately we know that these organizations are going to take on lives of their own and drive their own interests. And so it's become very passe for world leaders to acknowledge that their nations do have specific interests and that they're acting in those interests. Now, of course, China, Russia, these other countries, they don't care. Yes, they'll play the game, they'll use the different language, but they're fighting for their own interests. They're looking to capture natural resources. They want to increase their military presence and their influence. And all of these European nations are just playing along with that because it allows them to avoid having their own military or taking any real risks with what they're doing. But ultimately, Donald Trump realizes that this will lose America's sovereignty. So he's pushing back against this. And this disrupts everything that they believe. He's willing to take nationalist economic policies, willing to say, yes, I am specifically tariffing other countries because I want what's best for us. Yes, I am willing to negotiate and push for expansions in territory because I think they will economically benefit us. And I think if we don't do it, other great powers will. Now, you might have differences of opinion on any given action, but this is a stance that is decidedly pro American in a way that we have not seen in a very long time. I think it's very refreshing for Americans to see that kind of leadership. It also is very off putting and in many cases terrifying to the global world order because they recognize that without the United States playing along, they lose a lot of legitimacy.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, they clearly do. And ultimately, it's always the United States that has to foot most of the bill. For all of these organizations, the United nations for naito, for many World Economic Forum programs, it's all coming from US Dollars. And President Trump comes in realizing that he actually does have the leverage here, not them. Actually. One funny aside is that when, when Trump was on stage, he said something about, oh, I'm going to be meeting Zelinsky later today. Apparently, one of the things that I'm hearing is that Zelensky wasn't in Switzerland, wasn't even in the country, wasn't even planning to come. And then here's Trump's speech and realizes he has to hop a plane and now come or else he's going to be snubbing the President of the United States. It's so refreshing to see an American leader actually use America's leverage and to do so in ways that benefit the United States of America. But I suppose are in. The question I have then is, for so many of these examples, you look at the Venezuela raid, you look at Greenland, Panama Canal talk, changing of the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America. I mean, isn't everything that Trump is doing breaking international law? Doesn't this mean that he could run the risk of being arrested by the world international police?
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Oren McIntyre
Yeah, that is an absolutely adorable storyline that we hear over and over again. But of course, it's a absolute fantasy. There is no such thing as international law. That's not how sovereignty works, and that's not how laws work. Laws only mean something if they are enforced by a sovereign power. There must be a power behind that law capable of enforcing that law. And without that, the law means absolutely nothing. So an international law would require an international body to enforce it. Other words, it would require a one world government, a multinational government that would reach in and somehow punish Donald Trump for what he's doing. But of course, that does not exist at all. And that doesn't mean that Donald Trump should just go around making bad decisions or just being abusive for the heck of it. But I think what Donald Trump is revealing to the world is that ultimately this idea that they are somehow participatory in the understanding of America's interests is being discarded. America decides America's interests. You can't cage that. And if you want to fight back against that, you need to have some kind of substantive power. It's been adorable to watch different countries Deploy, you know, 5, 10, 15 troops to Greenland, and then talk about how they're going to fire first on American soldiers if we decide to invade. The truth is that NATO is a complete joke without the United States. It only exists because of the United States. And the chance that they could repel the United States if it attempted to use force at any moment is an absolute, you know, just hysterical lie. But they need to believe this. They need to look tough. They can't be honest that they've basically turned over their sovereignty to these organizations at the end of the day because their people still want to believe that they're somehow sovereign nations. The difference is that the United States has the ability to be a real sovereign nation because we have the power, we have the authority, we can enforce our own rules. Now, we haven't been acting like a sovereign nation for a very long time. And as much as Trump has been pushing back, there are still ways in which our sovereignty is impeded. So I'm glad to see him making those bold statements, but I also would like to see him continue to push to end these global commitments. We don't need these people. They need us. Trump is aware of that, which is very important. That puts them in a great bargaining position. But at the end of the day, we're not going to have Trump forever. And I would like to see him start to wind down some of these relationships so that in the future, America is not committed to this absolute charade of global governance.
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Jack Posobiec
That's exactly right. And, you know, perhaps you are starting to see, you know, different. Different things pop up. The Board of Peace is supposedly is going to be having this signing tomorrow regarding Gaza. We're also hearing that, that Belarus is coming in. So looking forward, probably the way I read that is that that's looking forward to an end of the Ukraine war situation. They want to bring in some of the local, the central, Eastern European nations to talk about that, that have those relationships with Russia. And you also saw Alexander Stubb, the president of Finland, came out yesterday, right. Right here on the stage behind me and said, well, well, we don't need NATO and Europe can defend itself even without them. To which I replied on Twitter, it's going pretty viral. But I said, I said, great, absolutely. Have at it, Finland. Have at it. You guys are more than welcome to do so. We're going to go deal with the Somali invasion in Minneapolis. We're going to go deal with all the stuff that's happening in our country. You guys got it. I love that. Please go right ahead. And I think you're. You're going to see so many more people latch onto that. And I agree with you that these commitments do need to be looked at. Look, I remember President Trump all the way back in 2016. This was one of the very first reasons that the, the deep state, the permanent state really targeted Trump because he was questioning why do we still have NATO even all these years after the fall of the Soviet Union. Arne McIntyre on with Jack Bosovic. We're live, Davos, Switzerland. Human Events Daily. Stay tuned right back. President Trump coming out soon.
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Unidentified Supporter/Fan
You talk about influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine. Jack, where's Jack? Jack. He's got a great guy.
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Oren McIntyre
All right.
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Jack Posobiec
Jack was obic we're back live here on the ground. Davos, Switzerland World Economic Forum as you can see behind me. And, and yes, to be clear, I have not eaten Z bugs. Not even that. We got some comments in during the break. They said did you eat any crickets? No, I have not eaten any of the crickets. I, I do want to ask you know, you know, folks in check if I have just one, does that count, you know or if I just try it? What if it's just a leg? If it's chocolate covered? I don't know. Oren, I wanted to ask you as well and you know we're talking about these differences between, between sovereignty. We also see the federal sovereignty in the United States being challenged by mayors and governors and same situation. They just don't have the power to be able to fight back. President Trump by the way and actually maybe I should even ask you this question. Aren't President Trump made a very strong statement about the Somali community in the United States but I think he reading between the lines he was definitely applying it to Europe as well saying the guys we are the inheritors of Western civilization and if we don't defend Western civilization then we will lose it. And he made this statement that the west cannot bring in in mass numbers foreigners from foreign cultures who now he did not use the word compatible but he said cultures from countries that have completely failed on their own not successful. He's really making those civilizational type type arguments. Now I don't personally think that he's going to find a lot of, a lot of purchase with that comment here in this room outside of maybe the president of Poland. No, wrote Ski who was here but writ large we are starting to see this in Europe as the rise of many of the right wing parties is, is really predicated on this issue of re migration.
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Oren McIntyre
Yeah. We've Already seen Germany have to basically try to ban the AfD there. We've seen in the UK the, the attempts to censor speech that is trying to address the immigration issue. And President Trump is exactly right to highlight that what's going on in Minnesota right now is simply a microcosm of the larger issue that is attacking the west in its entirety. People not being willing to address the fact that people from different cultures, from incompatible cultures, cultures that absolutely are a failure by our standards, they simply cannot move here and then magically become part of our civilization. I think it's very obvious to many people now that that's the case. It's a growing sentiment across the west, even in these European nations that denied it for so long, and action has to be taken. The absolute magnitude of the different populist movements that have forced a way through these different European countries in spite of their leadership just shows you how desperately people want a return to sanity when it comes to immigration. Most people are okay with some level of immigration, but they want it to be people who already are very compatible, who are going to go ahead and contribute to their nation. They don't want people who are going to come in immediately, try to change it or become a financial drain on it, be violent. All of these things become clannish, tribal, all of this stuff. We see this pattern repeating over and over again. Europe has gone through a different type of socialization. They have created societies where identity is very different than it is in these classic tribal societies in the Middle east or North Africa. And the same is true in the United States. We carry that identity over. So when you import a bunch of people who never went through this process, who never shared those ideas, who never had that heritage or that tradition, they simply cannot do it. They will not compete based on merit. They will not conform to the understandings of the society they're now in. They will continue to their tribal and clannish behavior, in which they defend and are basically completely ethnocentric inside their own ghettos, their own ethnic ghettos. We're all tired of this. And of course, this is not, like you said, not going to receive any big applause from world leaders because they're all on board with this project. But Trump is done. And we're very excited in the United States to see what's happening in Minnesota. The fact the administration is not backing down, despite the less terrorism, their attempt, the media's attempt to spin things and, and put out propaganda. They continue their deportations. They are not backing down. In fact, we're even Getting, I don't know if this is, this has been confirmed yet, but we're seeing possible reports that even military MP units might be deployed into Minnesota. So they're continuing to increase the law enforcement presence, not decrease it. And I'm very, very glad that Trump is making that a issue that all European leaders have to deal with because again, their populations do not want this. This is something that is engineered top down in these type of global summits, not something that the people of Europe or the United States are asking for.
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Jack Posobiec
That's exactly right. And the fact that, the fact of the matter is that, look, you know, I've been doing this, talking about these issues for a decade at this point. One of the very first international documentaries I did was up in, we called it the Rape of Sweden. You know, just north of where I am now. We went into Malmo, Sweden, and we were talking about all of these issues. And, and back then it was considered a conspiracy theory. It was hate speech. Our, our documentary, of course, was banned on YouTube and everywhere else. Now we've come so far that the President of the United States within the well of the World Economic Forum is talking about these very issues. It's been quite a journey. It's on this issue, I really have to say.
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Oren McIntyre
Yeah, it's one of those scenarios where just a few years ago it was entirely believable that you would be banned from social media, you would lose money platforms, you would be Persona non grata inside the Republican Party. And Donald Trump has changed that wildly. He's embraced the arguments of guys like Pat Buchanan and Paul Gottfried and all of these other paleo conservatives who saw what was coming. Guys like Sam Francis, he recognizes the same problem that they recognize and he has the same base of support. Ultimately, this is civilizational suicide. Anyone who's looking around at the world and what is happening can obviously see that. And, and I'm very glad that the administration is recognizing that and doing everything they can to push back. We've already seen illegal immigration basically entirely shut down in the United States. That in itself is a miracle. We were told they had to pass all these bills and do all this crazy stuff that make that happen. It turns out if you just give the President a free hand and some funding for ice, he was able to solve that problem almost immediately. We're also hearing that the administration is expecting to cut legal immigration and as much as 50% by the end of his term. I know for some people that's not as much as they wanted, but you have to understand where we came from like you said, people like us have been talking about this for a very long time. In many cases, it got us completely removed from the public conversation. Now it is the public conversation and the reason is very simple. Donald Trump has been successful on this issue.
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Jack Posobiec
Exactly right. Arin, I know you got to run. We're here. Davos, where can people go to to access your podcast and everything that you're putting out?
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Oren McIntyre
Absolutely. Thank you so much for having me. Of course, I'm on Blaze TV, the Oren McIntyre show there. I'm also on YouTube and Rumble, and then of course, all your favorite podcast platforms, Spotify, Apple, all of that stuff. The Orin McIntyre Show.
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Jack Posobiec
Check him out, folks. Oren McIntyre, he's put so many of these ideas out into the ether. He is so eloquent. The way he describes them is so clear. Clear. Definitely someone that you absolutely want to follow. You may have seen one or two of his tweets regarding tapping a sign here and there. Jack Posic live, Davos, Switzerland, the World Economic Forum. And thank you again to Real America's Voice. Be right back.
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Oren McIntyre
Jack.
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Unidentified Supporter/Fan
Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack.
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Oren McIntyre
Thank you.
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Unidentified Supporter/Fan
What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who've been getting bullishers.
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Jack Posobiec
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Will Chamberlain
Great, Jack.
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Jack Posobiec
So, Will, I've got to play some footage for you that I recorded just a couple hours ago myself. The governor of California, Gavin Newsom. It's a remarkable success. You remember I'm friends with Charlie.
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Will Chamberlain
Was friends, obviously.
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Jack Posobiec
As you know, I always appreciate your interview.
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Oren McIntyre
Yeah.
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Jack Posobiec
Quick question. You mentioned Minneapolis. Any comment on this? Don Lemon charging those guys into the church like that.
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Unidentified Supporter/Fan
I literally. It's funny, someone mentioned Don Lemon and Trump the other day, and so I have no idea what that's about.
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Jack Posobiec
Big viral story. He had a bunch of agitators. They ran into some kind of church.
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Unidentified Supporter/Fan
Into a church?
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Will Chamberlain
Yes.
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Jack Posobiec
Even focus on this. No, it's not even at this focus.
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Unidentified Supporter/Fan
Literally don't know anything about it.
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Will Chamberlain
Okay, thank you.
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Jack Posobiec
Great. So that was the. That was the interview. The question that we had there is security. Kept it polite, kept it respectable. Well, I got to ask you, though, does his answer pass this male test with you? Because a lot of people are saying it doesn't pass it for them.
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Will Chamberlain
How does he not know about that? It's dominated the news cycle. He's the governor of a major state. I mean, maybe he's tired and jet lagged. Being Davos. Like, I don't know why I'm trying To be charitable. But that's weird. It's weird that he doesn't heard about, like, the primary news story of the last three to four days, mass DOJ investigation, Pam Bondi going out there. I mean, this is a guy who's nominally on top of current affairs as a governor, and he hasn't heard about it. That's a little weird.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, and he was talking about. So you can't see in the video that he was conducting a gaggle for about 30 minutes after Trump spoke and he brought up the Somalians. He was asked about it. He talked about Minneapolis a number of times because he was responding to different things in President Trump's speech. So it strikes me as odd that we have the attorney general going to Minneapolis yesterday, putting out these subpoenas, you know, the story dominating the news cycle, and yet not. Not heard of it. So, you know. Okay, interesting. Very interesting. Well, I do want to ask you, though, about that regarding, regarding Pambani, the attorney general. These subpoenas. Look, you and I, look, we talked about legal liability from for, you know, just, we began. Remember, this all started with Becca. Good. And asking whether or not she had legal liability. And then I, you and I had offline and then spilled online a long conversation about other people who face legal liability and really just obstruction of justice. Now we're talking face act. We're talking obstruction of civil liberties. Will do you. Have you been able to Hear an Article 3 project, are you tracking at all regarding the subpoenas regarding this investigation? It's obviously very high profile and it does seem to be moving very quickly.
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Will Chamberlain
Yeah, I mean, they're moving really rapidly on this stuff. I mean, we have, you know, subpoenas are getting delivered. Basically what they're trying to do. They're trying to uncover evidence of underlying conspiring and aiding and abetting these organizations by the state authorities. You know, and that's what when the left tells you, it's like, oh, these statements they've made in public, well, they're not a crime. You're allowed to oppose ice. It's like, yeah, but some of these statements at least provide probable cause to investigate further about whether they've explicitly coordinated. There was that one statement that Jacob Fry made about how people are asking him to use the National Guard or have the National Guard oppose or Minneapolis police go out and oppose federal law enforcement. Who is he talking to? Exactly. So these people have to answer for their conduct here. And, you know, if they haven't been coordinating with these agitators, then fine, but they you know, these subpoenas are absolutely justified given the bizarre way in which both Fry and Waltz have decided to completely abdicate any kind of cooperation with federal law enforcement and seem to be on the side of the people who are obstructing it.
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Jack Posobiec
Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's very strange to me because, you know, so we were just Talking with or McIntyre the previous segment, how President Trump is here. He's exercising that American sovereignty on the world stage, but at the same time, within the United States, the federal government has federal sovereignty over federal law. States do not have any power over federal law any say whatsoever. It's the supremacy clause, as cities certainly don't yet. Well, it seems that these mayors and governors seem to think that they can just take the law into their own hands.
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Will Chamberlain
Yeah, it's strange. I think what's happening is that their default strategy is losing. So the default strategy for dealing with federal authority you don't like and federal law enforcement you don't like is to refuse to cooperate. Right. And there's plenty of federal law explaining constitutional law, rather, explaining that states don't have to cooperate with federal authorities in enforcing federal law as a general principle. Right. They don't have to use their resources to do it because it's all about. There's a whole doctrine called commandeering. Right. The federal government's not allowed to commandeer state governments. It's part of respect for their sovereignty. But we passed the one big beautiful bill act, which means that ICE has infinite law enforcement resources. So if local and state authorities won't cooperate with ice, that's fine. We'll just send in thousands of people to your metro area and enforce federal law. And so if you want to stop that and you try and do so, then you're violating the law, then you're obstructing. So I think this is sort of this new interesting test case where the. For years, because we didn't have anything like the one big beautiful bill in this massive amount of funding and resources behind ice, they were very, very reliant on the cooperation of state and local authorities. Now they're not like they would prefer it. It would make their lives easier. But if a state or local authority refuses to cooperate, that's fine. They'll just send in thousands of people to enforce federal law. So I think that the left is now reacting that very. And might well be making some mistakes that verge into criminality.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, and that would just be just totally unprecedented. But that being said, for at least federal governments to go after. But it certainly wouldn't be the first time in U.S. history that we've seen this. Will, I did want to ask you, though, the reason that I brought that up in relation to Gavin Newsom is, look, we all know that even though there are targeted communities in different parts of the country, like Minneapolis, where we have these issues with the legals, we all know that the number one state in terms of being a flagrant offender of illegal immigration, as well as not working with the federal government, is, of course, Gavin Newsom's California. Do you think, And I'll just say I highly suspect that it could very well be that a place like Los Angeles could be the next area where we see a deployment like this.
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Will Chamberlain
I could see it being Los Angeles. I could also see being Philadelphia, given how much Larry Krasner seems to really want a fight with federal law.
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Jack Posobiec
Please, God. Please, please, God. By the way, every time I have anyone from DHS on here, I say, I say don't forget Philadelphia. Remember, it's America's 250th. We have to clean up America's birthplace by America's 2-50th. So we got only a couple more months till July.
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Will Chamberlain
That's right. I think Minneapolis will prove to be the right place, like a sort of good test case. Minneapolis is smaller than Philadelphia or smaller than, certainly a lot smaller than Los Angeles County. So I think it's, it's more manageable. It's a good place to sort of try out, you know, figure out what kind of personnel you need, what kind of resources you need. If you're going to do this on your own, how, how exactly you're going to deal with uncooperative authorities, you know, because for so long, even in the first Trump administration, I think that if, if authorities, local authorities weren't cooperating, there wasn't a lot of deportations happening because they just didn't have the resources. There wasn't.
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Jack Posobiec
And coming up on a quick break. But, well, it's. You bring up Pennsylvania because, of course, Josh Shapiro, another potential 2028 nominee, Governor of Pennsylvania. But also Pennsylvania has a Republican attorney general who won in 2024. Dave Sunday in his own right. So interesting to see what kind of cooperation we'll see there. Should Philadelphia be the answer?
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Unidentified Supporter/Fan
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Jack Posobiec
Jack Posobec, World Economic Forum, Davos, Switzerland.
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Unidentified Supporter/Fan
Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it. And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole Beautiful event and we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.
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Oren McIntyre
Amen.
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Jack Posobiec
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Will Chamberlain
Yeah, I mean, that's actually Carney had an interesting speech on that effect where he's like the sort of everybody understands now that the rules based international order was fake, wasn't real, and that Carney himself was tired of paying lip service to it. I don't know that Carney's solution to this problem of getting buddy buddy with China was a particularly smart one. If he understands real politic, he should understand that there's no world in which Canada gets to be an ally of the Chinese government with that type of massive border with the United States. That's just not a thing that's going to work for us and we're not going to tolerate it. But his point about the rules based international order being kind of over is, is true. I saw a very interesting take on this today, which is the whole neoliberal order was based on the need to justify your conduct internationally. And so it's like the idea is the United States always needs to justify anything it does and there are justifications for Greenland. But part of the point of what Trump's doing is saying, no, this is a great power world. We don't need to sit here and we're just going to do it. We'll justify it later. We know we want Greenland. We know what's important to our national security. The end. We want Greenland. And I think it's good. I mean, the Danes claim on Greenland is sort of ridiculous when you think about it. I mean, it's the, Denmark is in a tiny country very far away from Greenland. We're closer to it, I think, and they're not able to defend it. They're a tiny country with what, like 10 million people Greenland should belong to.
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Jack Posobiec
And not only that, by the way, not only that. President Trump made the point. I mean, I'm just gonna say, folks, if you've been listening to human events D for the past year when we've talked about Greenland, you're going to, you are going to recognize a lot of the things that President Trump said. He brought up the World War II history where it was the United States that militarily defended Greenland against the Germans when Denmark itself had fallen to the, the Wehrmacht had fallen to Nazi Germany. And it was the, it was the US that kept German U boats, kept Germans from landing there, was able to continue lend lease, and then the air bridge to the UK Through Greenland. That was the United States that did that. That was not Denmark. He also brought up the fact that map break Greenland is of course, on the, on the tectonic plate of North America. It is part of the North American continent. It is not part of Europe, even geographically. So he's, he's just bringing up so many good arguments. But, but really ultimately the history based argument I find very strong, especially through the World War II claim. But, and, but then gave it back. He said they were stupid to do so. But really I think the strongest argument was the golden dome and the idea that any ballistic missile defense of the United states regarding Washington D.C. that's going to go over the North Pole. And if you want sophisticated air defense, you're going to want to put it in Greenland. I mean, Will, that's a serious point he's making and it's completely nonpartisan.
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Will Chamberlain
Yeah. And there's another point he made, I think yesterday, which is about what the United Kingdom Kingdom decided to do with the Chagos Archipelago where the Diego Garcia is. We have an extremely important military base.
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Jack Posobiec
Oh, don't even get me started on that. Don't even get me started on that. It's atrocious what they're doing.
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Will Chamberlain
It's atrocious what the United Kingdom is doing. And the fact that the United Kingdom would do that would literally let a Chinese engineered ICJ advisory ruling lead them to simply hand over that archipelago to Mauritius, which is a thousand miles away. And nobody from Mauritius was ever on the Chagos Archipelago. But he just decided, oh, we'll just give it to them and then lease it back so the United States can keep their base there. Like, what, what are you doing? And the fact that the UK would do sort of silly stuff like this and let themselves be manipulated and the other European countries aren't like, hey, don't do that. Don't mess with our ally that way. Don't, don't like jeopardize the security of their own military base in that fashion. It's just kind of crazy. So when we look at Denmark, you know, Denmark is just, you know, what if China manages to engineer another ruling that says, oh, you, Denmark's claim to Greenland is forfeit and then maybe who are we negotiating with? Are we negotiating the Greenlanders? Maybe the Greenlanders were bought out by the Chinese and they're like, no, you got to close all your military bases or something like that. Like, none of this is acceptable for the perspective of the United States national security. And if the Europeans are going to be feckless allies like the United Kingdom was with Diego Garcia, then we can't just rely on them to make, we can't just make an agreement with them and then put bases there. Or at least if we do make an agreement, maybe there's now an agreement that we don't get sovereignty. I don't know. But I think the best case scenario for the United States is we simply say, no, it's got to be ours. It's got to be ours. There can't be any more talk of you randomly handing over, selling the ground underneath our feet in Greenland to somebody else. We need to own. Uncontrollable.
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Jack Posobiec
And in fact, for anyone, if you actually sat down and read the entire New York Times interview, it was only released in print with President Trump, Highlights came out. But if you read, read through the entire thing in the Greenland section, they actually discuss. And President Trump is very familiar with this at one point, that part of the Cold War treaty that the United States signed with Denmark is that those bases which have now been deactivated could be reactivated unilaterally by the United States if they declare an emergency. So President Trump could, under the terms of the current treaty that we have with Denmark, reactivate those Cold War bases. By the way, Thule Air Base needs to be renamed, of course, but he could immediately start putting troops there right now and point to a direct treaty that we have with Denmark, and there's nothing they could do about it.
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Will Chamberlain
Yeah. And we need to keep the Chinese out of Greenland. That's another thing, right? Like, in full, there can't be no Chinese infrastructure projects, no Chinese working on the airports and the roads, none of that. They need to be out of there. That's like, this is our hemisphere. China doesn't get to, like, do this stuff in our hemisphere, especially with something so important to our inner, you know, our mass. The geopolitical strategic outlook is Germany as Greenland. Sorry.
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Jack Posobiec
No. But to your point, you know, looking at, looking at, from a military perspective as well, regardless of. Take the ICBM threat off the top of the table. But you've also got, in World War I, World War II, when the Germans, when the Kriegsmarine wanted to come out from the Baltic Sea, wanted to cross the North Sea, where do they have to go through? Oh, they had to go through the GI UK gap. This is the gap in. In the sea lanes, right. Directly where they would have to come out to cross into the North Atlantic to conduct those campaigns going up to Lusitania and others, that's where the Germans would have to come through. So if this is US Territory, then we can fortify the territory, then we can build it up, then we can strengthen it. The same deal with the Russian army, the Chinese army, or anyone else who comes through. Will, as you know, I could talk about this all day. And I'm sure you can as well. Where can people go to fight? Follow.
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Will Chamberlain
You find me on at Will Chamberlain on X. And you can follow what the Article 3 project is doing@a3paction.com.
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Jack Posobiec
All right, folks. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore. This is the future governor of Greenland, Jack Posic, signing off. Dapo, Switzerland. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.