Human Events with Jack Posobiec, January 26th, 2026

Summary

Podcast Summary: Human Events with Jack Posobiec – Real America’s Voice Episode Date: January 26, 2026
Host: Jack Posobiec
Guests: Andrew Branca, Kevin Posobiec, The Black Conservative Preacher, Xi Van Fleet
Theme: Analysis and on-the-ground reporting of the Minneapolis unrest, examining the alleged “communist insurgency,” ICE operations, legal controversies, and the broader implications for American society and governance.

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the so-called “Battle of Minneapolis”—recent violent clashes in Minnesota between federal officers (particularly ICE) and protestors/agitators whom the host and guests repeatedly characterize as “communist insurgents.” The episode examines the circumstances and legality of a deadly ICE shooting, analyzes the structure and tactics of local activist groups, and draws parallels to past communist revolutions abroad. Through live reports, legal expert analysis, and historical context, the episode builds an urgent narrative about law, order, and civic crisis in America’s heartland.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Setting the Scene in Minneapolis

[02:04–06:08]

• Host’s Framing: Jack Posobiec introduces the ongoing Minneapolis unrest as a “communist insurgency,” alleging that activists are attempting to create a new “Minneapolis Autonomous Zone.”
• Two of America’s most wanted brought to justice; a notable surge in GDP (4.4%).
• Trump’s administration extends ICE enforcement actions and brings federal agents into Minnesota following shootings; controversy over ICE’s tactics and the justification for the shooting of protester Alex Preddy.
• Posobiec’s personal note: Attending the Scott Adams (Dilbert creator) memorial; contrast between “patriots” being honored and chaos in Minneapolis.

Notable Quote:

“What we see in Minneapolis is the rise of a communist insurgency… building another [autonomous zone]… bringing in agitators, Bolsheviks.” – Jack Posobiec [05:15]

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2. The Minneapolis Shooting & Legal Analysis

[09:53–21:52]

• Jack and Andrew Branca (legal analyst) break down the ICE-led shooting of Alex Preddy:
  • Branca clarifies the legal standards for use of deadly force: Officers must have a “reasonable perception of imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm.” [12:44]
  • Body-cam and bystander video scrutinized by “freeze frame activists,” but Branca stresses real-world context trumps armchair analysis.
  • Preddy’s actions (impeding arrest, being armed, physical altercation) met criteria for police use of force; even mistakes are permissible if “reasonable” under law.
  • Misconceptions: Disarming, communication breakdowns among officers, chaotic environment with loud whistles/blaring car horns. Each officer acts on their individual perception.
  • Possibility of negligent discharge discussed but deemed legally irrelevant if officers believed a gunfight was underway.
  • Echoes the Rittenhouse case (self-defense, confused situations, public misperception).
  • Emphasis on personal responsibility: “He was a grown man, fully capable of making his own decisions; it was those decisions that ultimately made him lose his life.” [20:23]

Notable Quotes:

“He was shot for fighting the law, and the law won.” – Andrew Branca [15:26]
“If you are in one of those situations… hands on the ground, hands behind your back… This is really basic stuff which I feel like has to be said over and over and over.” – Jack Posobiec [16:57]

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3. On-the-Ground Reporting: Field Correspondents in Minneapolis

[33:03–43:09]

• Kevin Posobiec and The Black Conservative Preacher describe chaotic scenes from the previous night:
  • Antifa cells storm a hotel, damage property, and violently confront a corrections officer.
  • Policing response is slow (2+ hours from Minneapolis PD, despite close proximity).
  • Protestors described as highly organized: encrypted Signal chats, street spotters, coordinated mobilization within 90 seconds, and massed in black bloc attire.
  • “Community watchers” surveil large swaths of the city, monitor for ICE activity, and escalate quickly.
  • Field correspondents and bystanders at risk; harassment, mistaken accusations of being ICE, demands for IDs.
  • Authorities (National Guard) criticized as ineffectual (“busy passing out donuts”).
  • Comparisons to Portland: “Portland looks like a cakewalk compared to here… organization is nothing in comparison.” [41:13]

Notable Quotes:

“We were being followed, tailed, stopped. I’m talking about ten cars following us, tracking us.” – The Black Conservative Preacher [36:04]
“These are organized surveillance teams, spotters… they have taken effective control of the street.” – Jack Posobiec [36:14, 40:04]

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4. Framing the Conflict: “Insurgency” and Historic Parallels

[45:06–53:37]

• Xi Van Fleet, author and survivor of the Chinese Cultural Revolution, draws parallels between Minneapolis and Maoist tactics:
  • Insurgents manufacture crises, then mobilize masses against government (“same playbook” as CCP).
  • Examples from China’s 1946 anti-American protests, Cultural Revolution’s use of the Red Guards, and the creation of martyrs for political gain.
  • True believers (“useful idiots”) are regularly sacrificed for the cause.
  • Emphasizes mass organization, modern encrypted/opportunistic communication, and cycles of violence.
  • Tim Walz (Minnesota Governor) accused of using CCP tactics, knowledge from his travels in China.
  • America’s vulnerability attributed to lost control over education and public awareness.
  • Urges listeners that this is an existential battle; political, cultural, and physical.

Notable Quotes:

“It is absolutely 100% communist insurgency, nothing less.” – Xi Van Fleet [45:21]
“They need martyrs... [who are] true believers turned into useful idiots. The communists here, they want more crisis, they want more deaths.” – Xi Van Fleet [48:12]
“Mass mobilization is the key feature of communism. They get all those people involved and then use them as pawns...” – Xi Van Fleet [51:09]

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Memorable Moments & Quotes with Timestamps

• “Do you want to save this country? ... He was an armed communist insurgent who was participating in an illegal roadblock of ICE operations.” – Jack Posobiec [06:08]
• “If you’re violently resisting arrest… they don’t know if you’ve got another gun. They have no idea. Just comply.” – Jack Posobiec [16:57]
• “...they tried to flip the tables on us… because we are outsiders.” – The Black Conservative Preacher [39:57]
• “These are cadres, these are trained, they’re organized, they’re planned. And isn’t that exactly how the organization of the Red Guards was?” – Jack Posobiec [48:43]
• “It never ends well for useful idiots.” – Xi Van Fleet [50:25]

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Notable Segments and Timestamps

• Minneapolis unrest, shooting context: [02:04–09:53]
• Legal analysis with Andrew Branca: [12:12–21:17]
• On-the-ground field reports (hotel standoff, city surveillance): [33:06–42:46]
• Comparisons to CHAZ, Portland, and insurgency tactics: [41:13–42:46]
• Interview with Xi Van Fleet — historical parallels: [45:06–53:37]

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Tone and Language

• Direct, urgent, and highly charged; recurring martial metaphors (“battle,” “insurgency,” “front line,” “take the hill”).
• Frequent references to “patriots,” “communist insurgency,” and “useful idiots.”
• Legal discussion is technical but blunt; field reporting is first-person and vivid.
• Use of slogans: “Do you want to take America back?”, “Lock in, Patriots.”
• Frequent invocation of personal responsibility, both of officers and activists.

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Conclusion

This episode of Human Events delivers an uncompromising, detail-rich look at the Minneapolis protests, presenting them as a front in a larger ideological and political war. It fuses breaking news, on-the-ground reporting, legal interpretation, and historical analysis to warn listeners of alleged existential threats to “Western civilization”—while exhorting “patriots” to resist both on cultural and literal battlegrounds. The podcast frames the events not as isolated incidents, but as symptoms—and harbingers—of revolutionary change, with all its attendant perils and mobilizations.

For further information, the episode recommends following:

• Andrew Branca on X/YouTube – “The Branca Show”
• Xi Van Fleet on X – @XMenFleet
• Kevin Posobiec on X/Instagram/Substack – @KevinPosobiec
• The Black Conservative Preacher on X/Facebook/Rumble/YouTube – “The BC Preacher”

Transcript

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Government protests began in the country.

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They'll also try to convince a judge.

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To halt the deployment of federal agents.

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Into Minnesota after three shoot shootings in.

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Three weeks, including the killing of Renee Good on January 7th.

[Jack Posobiec]

We did not see the President today, but he was active on social media, calling on Democratic governors and mayors to cooperate with the federal government. Earlier, he complained about efforts to stop his building of a big ballroom. In another post, he focused on what he called massive financial fraud in Minnesota. It was Saturday that he addressed this latest fatal shooting, writing, let our ISIS patriots do their job. He also accused the mayor of Minneapolis and governor of Minnesota of inciting insurrection. The administration's immigration crackdown in Minnesota is now entering its ninth week. Its stated goal was to apprehend criminals. But there's growing uproar over ICE tactics and administration claims without evidence, that the latest shooting victim, Alex Preddy, was a domestic terrorist. This past week, Vice President J.D. vance visited the state, doubling down on the administration's actions. Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events daily. Today is January 26, 2026, Anno Domini. And as you can see, we have decamped Washington, D.C. we've decamped the north. We are here in sunny Florida to ride out the storm as well as to conduct some, some business, some behind the scenes dealings that I have while I'm on the ground here in Palm Beach. But we will be going live to Minneapolis soon to our operations that are there on the ground. The Battle of Minneapolis continues and we've seen it turn bloody this weekend. You guys may have also seen yesterday, I spoke at the Scott Adams Memorial, the Scott Adams celebration of life. And it was incredible honor for me to be there. Incredible honor to visit with his family, to visit his home, go to his studio, see the spot where the simultaneous sip was sipped so many times, the spot where Dilbert was written every morning. And it was truly an honor to greet and to be with so many incredible patriots and incredible people to say goodbye and see you soon to a great patriot, Scott Adams, and a man who gave every last measure of devotion to his country and to his people. But that's not what we see in Minneapolis, is it? No. What we see in Minneapolis is the rise of a communist insurgency. This is the Battle of Minneapolis. And what are they doing? They're building another Maz, another Minneapolis autonomous zone. What they are doing is bringing in these insurgents, they are bringing in the agitators, they are bringing in the Bolsheviks. And for all you people out there that want to play this little freeze frame activism game. Oh, well, Preddy may have. You know, he. He was. He was reaching for something else. And you know, actually the gun was over here and that.

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[Jack Posobiec]

Stop it. Stop it right now. Do you want to save this country? Do you want to take America back? Do you think they're just going to. They're just going to let you take. He was number one. This guy was armed. He was an armed communist insurgent who was participating in an illegal roadblock of ICE operations. He was a member of the anti. ICE antifa group. He's in the signal chats. His own neighbor has confirmed this now. And he went out there of his own volition, of his own decision. He instigated and put himself. He inserted himself in there with the express purpose of disrupting ICE operations.

[Andrew Branca]

So don't sit there.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, he was a peaceful protester. Oh, he's. Shut up. Stop it. Stop whining. Stop the complaining. These are communist insurgents. They would kill you and your entire family. I used to sit here at this table. My friend Charlie. Let's just ask Charlie about that. Oh, right. We can't. We can't ask Charlie about that, can we? Because they killed him. When are you people going to wake up? And I'm not talking to the vast people, this audience, but I'm talking to the people, the little naysayers, the freeze frame armchair activists. I'm sick of it. I'm absolutely sick of it. You got ICE out there doing their level best to clean up the streets. That Joe Biden, these criminals, these thugs, these child rapists, the pedophiles that they brought in. And then you got. You've got the videos out. We'll have our team on here in a minute. That have been out there night after night braving the cold. My own brother going out there. I tried to stop him. You won't listen. Give mom some more gray hairs. He won't listen because he's out there night after night braving the cold, braving the communist insurgents to tell us the truth about what's going on. And then he had the border patrol agent there standing in the gap with one rifle at the hotel last night as the mob was trying to get in to kill everyone inside or who knows what. It's time to wake up. America and Western civilization are in the balance. Minneapolis is the front line. We'll be right back here. Jack Posobic, Human Events Daily.

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[Jack Posobiec]

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[Andrew Branca]

I'm doing great, man. How about yourself?

[Jack Posobiec]

I'm doing well with your, your commentary. Your analysis has been going hyperviral over the weekend. I want to ask. So you've been, you've looked at this case and we've seen these, what I call them sort of freeze frame activists. And I've seen you use this phrase as well, going through and, you know, looking. Oh well, what about this moment and this moment and they take this shot and this shot, but ultimately break down. What's the problem with the legal analysis versus what people are doing in the freeze frame activation activism?

[Andrew Branca]

Well, I mean, the legal question here is simply did the officers who fired the fatal shots, did they have a reasonable perception of an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm at the val. And there's more than enough evidence to support such a reasonable perception. And it's important to keep in mind that they don't have to prove this. A prosecutor would have to disprove that reasonable perception beyond any reasonable doubt. And what facts do we have here? We have the ICE officers. One of them shoves the woman and then is subject to a felony assault, felony impeding. It's good for eight years in a federal penitentiary by Alex Preddy. The other ICE officers or CBP come in to make his arrest. He's forcibly non compliant with arrest. They know he has a gun because they hear gun, gun, gun, shouted, a gunshot goes off. Alex Preddy, while being non compliant, brings his hand into view with an object in his hand. It's not clear what it is. It might be a phone or maybe it's one of his spare magazines. But in any case, it's an object in his strong hand. And the officers take all that information, the totality of the circumstances, and create a reasonable perception of an eminent threat of deadly force harm from him. And it's important to keep in mind they don't have to be correct about this perception. The law of self defense doesn't require perfect decision making, it requires reasonable decision makings. Mistakes are permissible if they're reasonable mistakes. And reasonable simply means they're not. They're not imagining what's going on. They're applying their powers of reason to the facts before them. And of course they're doing it in a very stressful, life threatening, compressed timeframe.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right, and that's what I wanted to get into as well, because you see these people running this, you know, we're freezing the frame or putting it in slow motion. But that's not how reality works. In reality, in this situation, what these activists have done and by the way, what these agitators are doing on purpose and deliberately, they're blowing the whistles, they're getting in the street, they're getting in the way. He's this, this guy. Individual. This individual immediately prior to the altercation, he's seeing an arrest going on and he's beckoning cars to come forward also just interfering with things that are going on. So he's bringing cars in, he's establishing a roadblock. All of these things that he's been doing. This is not a peaceful protest or illegal observer. He just stood on the sidewalk and said, shame, shame, shame. Okay, that's still legal. Right? But that's not what he was doing. He was inserting himself into this process and, and again, it's everything after that follows and anyone. And by the way, you're someone who very well understands concealed carry, concealed carry laws. Was this behavior lawful?

[Andrew Branca]

No. The moment he put hands on the first CBP officer committed a federal felony. So Alex Preddy was not shot for exercising his second amendment rights. He was not shot for concealed carrying. He was not shot for, for having a couple of spare magazines on him. He was shot for fighting the law and the law won.

[Jack Posobiec]

It really is as simple as that. What is the danger though, I guess I would say of. Or what do people get wrong when they get so down the rabbit hole in this sort of freeze frame sort of world?

[Andrew Branca]

Well, there's a lot of confounding factors in these kinds of group events. So for example, people tend to assume that every officer knows and sees what every other officer knowing and seeing, they'll say, well, obviously he'd been disarmed. The guy in the gray jacket took his pistol off him. That appears to be true, by the way. It doesn't mean he doesn't have another weapon, but certainly that weapon was taken off him. That doesn't mean the other officers saw that or know that they're not aware of that. Every officer has a different perspective. They're looking from different angles, their vision is obscured in different ways, they're hearing different things. And they're not hearing things over the screech of these whistles, by the way. Very difficult to communicate. So each officer is making an independent decision. There's no collective base of knowledge that they're all sharing in the instant. And that's all the law requires, is they have to make their use of force decisions based on what they personally are aware of, not what some fellow officer might be aware of. Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's amazing to me because there's so many times that I feel like, and you've come on the program or other times in the past where it's like you have to have the same conversation over and over and over. Because if you're violently assist, resisting arrest, even if you've been disarmed once with one handgun, they already know you, you had a handgun. They don't know if you've got another, another gun. They don't know if you have a knife. They don't know if you have some other implement of a weapon that you can use. They have no idea. So if you are in one of those situations, you know, God forbid, let's say you find yourself in one, just, hey, man, hands on the ground, hands behind your back. Hands, you can see them. Don't go near the belt line. This is really basic stuff which I feel like has to be said over and over and over. And people want to play freeze frame armchair activist, but that's not the real world. And by the way, if he had wanted to fight to fight this from a legal rights perspective and had wanted to say, hey, I'm concealed carrying, you're doing something wrong, couldn't he have done that in court?

[Andrew Branca]

Well, that's where you do it. And that's how you don't get killed in fighting law enforcement in this way. I mean, think about what law enforcement knew here, right? Indisputable facts. They saw him impede another officer by contact. That's a forcible felony in a law enforcement officer. So he's not a peaceful observer. He's just committed a forcible felony. They know or discover that he's got a gun on his person, meaning he's a person who carries weapons on him. They know he's non compliant with arrest. He's fighting their lawful arrest. They know his hand comes into view with a black object in his hand while they have him at gunpoint after a gunshots gone off, while they're hearing gun, gun, gun being shouted. That is going to get you shot by the police 999 times out of a thousand.

[Jack Posobiec]

It really is. I wonder, though, you did mention the shot that went off. I know there's this sort of controversy regarding this specific weapons platform and a lot of questions about negligent discharge. I don't really personally have any opinion one way or the other. I think it's hard to tell. Do you have any opinion on, you know, having viewed this, as to whether or not there was a negligent discharge or. Or some kind of round fired by that firearm?

[Andrew Branca]

I just can't tell. So people keep sending me images and saying, hey, you can see it here. Right?

[Jack Posobiec]

Right.

[Andrew Branca]

I look at the images, I don't see any indication of the gunfight. I don't see recoil. I don't see muzzle blast. I don't see an impact on the street. I don't see the slide moving. Now, it's possible all that happened and it just wasn't caught in the video frames. Right. Video is not continuous. It's frame by frame by frame. So it could have happened, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because if the officer who actually fired the shot at Alex Preddy, not this initial shot, if he'd heard gun, gun, gun, and a gunshot goes off feet away, it would be reasonable for him to believe this is now a gunfight. And I have to neutralize this threat. He's. He doesn't have to know the exact mechanism. I actually have been a car backfiring. It would have been the same thing.

[Jack Posobiec]

Is this a similar legal dynamic? Going back when you and I talk so much about the Kyle Rittenhouse case, that first shot that was done while Kyle Rittenhouse is not looking. The first shot actually was targeted in the air at. But so not directly at Kyle, but from his perspective, he hears a gunshot behind him from a mob that's chasing him.

[Andrew Branca]

Right. Shots are being fired. Right. It would be reasonable for him. Right. A reasonable. Reasonable. Gunshots are being fired.

[Jack Posobiec]

A reasonable. No. It's a horrific situation, and yet again, one that was completely avoidable if we. We actually remember something, and that's called the personal responsibility of Alex Preddy. The behavior, the actions and the decisions of Alex Peretti, which, by the way, his parents apparently had warned him about not doing. They said, don't do this, don't engage. Which sounds to me like they knew their son was a hothead. They knew and you know, they keep acting like he was some kid. He was 37. He's a grown man that's almost old enough to be retired from the military. You could retire at 38 with a pension or at least you used to be able to. And so I mean this, he's a grown man. He's fully capable of making his own decisions. And it was those decisions that ultimately made him lose his life. Andrew Branca, where can people go to follow you and get access to your work?

[Andrew Branca]

Best way to find me is on YouTube and on X, of course, at the Branka show.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right, take care, Andrew Branca. Make sure you go check out that book, folks. The law of self defense. Know the law if you are carrying. If you were going to get involved in something like this, know what to do. And unlike this guy, what not to do do. We'll be right back. Jack Posobic, Human Events Daily.

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[Jack Posobiec]

These are influencers and they're friends of mine. Jack. Where's Jack? He's got a great job. All right folks, Jack Posobic, back live we are here. West Palm Beach, Florida I want to thank the real America's Voice team for getting us set up here. Help us to beat the, beat the cold little, beat the storm a little bit while we're down here, down south, folks. Every day Americans make choices that shape our country's future right down to which cell phone provider we support. Here's what most people realize. Patriot Mobile isn't just a wireless provider. They're an activist organization funded by selling top tier cell phone service. They've been on the front lines defending our freedoms long before it was cool. Standing in the gap when others wouldn't. The best part is they delivered prioritized premium service on all three major US Networks, giving you the same or even better coverage backed by 100% US based customer support. 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They've got people up from Boston, they've got people up from Chicago. They're coming all the way in. All the leaders, the antifa, the anti ice, all the rest of it. They're coming in because they're trying to make their stand. So what's President Trump doing? He's saying the operations will continue. Then they must continue. No back down, no backing down. We will not blink. We're not going to back down. We're not. We're going to double down. We're not going to de. Escalate. We're going to escalate. Why is this important? It's really simple. Who governs? Will we be governed by the mob? Will we be governed by the insurgents, by the radicals, by the Bolsheviks? Will we allow A communist insurgency to make decisions for us and their media allies to run around and say, oh gosh, oh gosh, he wasn't doing anything wrong. He wasn't. Of course he was doing everything wrong, Alex. Freddie was doing everything wrong. Stop. Don't fall for the lies. Advance, push the advantage. And by the way, the normal, the normie Americans like your sort of average, you know, non political American. Go look at Google Trends. They're not focused on this right now. They're not looking at the antifa smashing up this hotel last night with the one brave agent standing there in the gap, standing in the gap, standing on the precipice at the gates of hell, before him, death all around hands, fingers bloodied. And did he drop? Did he quit? Did he back down? Did he surrender? Did he put, take a knee and say, oh gosh, I'm so sorry? No. He stood there and he stood his ground and stood his post. He did his duty for the American people and for our civilization and for our way of life. And if we are going to support him, if we are going to continue to double down on our support, we're going to see this all the way through. We started this fight. We're going to see the fight through. And we're not going to quit because the fighting's hard. We're just not. You want to, you want to go talk to a guy? You want to sit down and have a conversation about it? Not after September 10th. Nope, sorry. Not interested in having these conversations. Not after September 10th. Not after losing the guy that used to sit right next to me at this table. Nope. Not interested in those conversations. Really not. I'm interested in restoring law and order to the United States of America. And that's what this is all about. Remember, they did not deploy antifa. They did not deploy these agitator networks into Minneapolis until after the fraud was exposed. This is about the fraud of Minneapolis, the fraud of Minnesota. It's about Tim Walls. It is about everything that they are doing, okay? It's about everything that they are trying to cover up. The illegal aliens. And by the way, the Fortune 500 companies. Seventeen of the Fortune 500 companies that are headquartered in the Twin Cities. Largest per capita concentration of Fortune 500 companies in America. So you've got corporate America. Think of the convergence here. Corporate America and tifa. The Somalis, the illegal aliens, the money laundering, Tim Walls. It all comes even, Even George Floyd. It all comes to a head in Minneapolis. And so take the Hill. Take the Hill. If we can't take Minneapolis how are we ever going to make it to Chicago, to Detroit, to Philly, to Baltimore, to la, to New York? No, no, You've got the road to all of them. The road to Vienna goes through Minneapolis. And what's Antifa saying? You run out there. We've got the reports up. They're saying that they want to make Minneapolis their Fallujah. That's what they're saying. And they look, go back and they look at the battle of Fallujah as the time when the tide was turned in the Iraq war, when the insurgency really kicked off. Zarqawi. All or Solder? All of them coming up through the battle of Fallujah. Solder city. Is that what we want? Do we want them to do this? I say bring it on. If that's what you want, bring it on. Tim Walls knows this is a disaster for him. Why is this not happening? Tim Wallace, keep in mind, he could issue an executive order right now, right now and say, work with ice. He could just say, work with ice. Let him into the prisons, let him into the jails. That's all you'd have to do. Piece of paper, you could tweet it. Done. This is all on Tim Walsh. He's doing this on purpose. And don't think for a second that he's not, because he's trying to test you. This is about testing the administration, testing the resolve of the patriot movement, testing the resolve of maga. Are you going to fail that test? Are you going to let the likes of Tim Walls and these scum win? These people who laughed when Charlie was murdered, who celebrated, who cheered? Is that what you want? You're going to let them win and then they're putting up stuff. Oh, Charlie Kirk was a supporter of the Second. This isn't about the second Amendment. It's about ICE raids, it's about remigration, it's about sending these people home. And by the way, to the illegals. There's a much safer way. There's a much safer option if you want to deal with that, by the way, than any of this stuff. Just leave. Just go home, get out. There's been more arrests right here in Florida and Texas than there were in Minneapolis. But the government is working with the federals. That's why it's safer. Lock in, Patriots. Lock in. Be right back. Human Events Daily continues.

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[The Black Conservative Preacher]

Jack.

[Jack Posobiec]

Where's Jack? Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys.

[Andrew Branca]

And these are the guys who'd be getting policies.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right, Jack, Pacific, we are back live. We're here, West Palm beach, and we're covering down on the Battle of Minneapolis. I wanted to bring up two veterans of the Battle of Minneapolis, two actual legal observers, by the way, the two guys who are out there who are working hard on the ground not to tell us the truth about what's happening in these riots, but also what's going on with the Somali invasion. It is human events Field correspondent Kevin Posobic and the black conservative preacher. What's up, guys?

[Kevin Posobiec]

Doing pretty well.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right, so walk me through. And Kevin, we'll start with you. Walk us through what happened with this. This hotel situation last night. The standoff that led to one. It looks like a border patrol guard, or, excuse me, Bureau of Prisons guard, who's out there standing in the breach.

[Kevin Posobiec]

Yeah, so we got. We got early reports that, you know, antifa cells came and said there were two ICE agents staying at this hotel in St. Paul and that, you know, they were starting to raid. We saw last week where they would protest out front of hotels, but tonight they upped at a level and broke through into the lobby and started trashing the refrigerators, breaking windows, spray prating f ice all over the windows and beating the trash cans. It was like a Mob from, from the beginning. And so there was a response, I believe it was from corrections officers. And so that escalated very quickly. It was about two dozen people. And then at one point an agent came out with what I believe was a shotgun and was able to clear the lobby of people. But then as we see like someone threw either an empty tear gas canister at him or just a block of ice, something jagged enough to slice his fingers open. And so that also escalated things. And I wanted to point out, Jack, that Minneapolis police, they did respond, but it was about two hours after. And keep in mind, this is only like across the river, maybe five, ten minute drive from their precinct downtown Minneapolis. And you know, when they finally arrived, it was, I mean they had EMS trucks, about a dozen squad cars, and I believe state troopers as well, a riot squad. But this, this, this is getting out of control. These people are organized. There was black block antifa there. So it's bad.

[Jack Posobiec]

And let me, let me go to another preacher. So you've done a lot of work over in Portland. You've been covering down there with my colleague, our colleague Katie Davis Court and so many others. What you're seeing on the ground now in Minneapolis, these things that I've been seeing online, that some of the information I've got are we now seeing organized antifa groups and insurgents flood into Minneapolis from other parts of the country?

[The Black Conservative Preacher]

I believe so. You know, being here in Minneapolis versus Portland, Portland looks like a cakewalk compared to, compared to here. And what I'm seeing a few minutes ago you mentioned being governed by these people. And going back a little bit, especially what cam exposed over the past couple days, the signal gate, you know, we were being followed, tailed, stopped. I'm talking about 10 cars following us, tracking us.

[Kevin Posobiec]

They're saying we're ICE, telling us that.

[The Black Conservative Preacher]

We'Re ICE because we're wearing masks. Imagine that. And then if you step out the car, they start blowing the whistle.

[Jack Posobiec]

So you're saying this, these are, these are organized surveillance teams, spotters, observers that they've got all over key areas and they're coordinating in these signal chats.

[The Black Conservative Preacher]

Correct. And it's key areas, but a big portion of the city, it's not just like a small little area is a big portion of the city where these people are standing on every single corner, waiting all day long, including going to restaurants and being in restaurants, waiting and watching to see if ice comes in there.

[Jack Posobiec]

And so, you know, looking at all of this, and I'm just asking your opinion in terms of your analysis. We know that Alex Preddy was. Was out there. He was involved in this. We now know that there was a mobilization alert that was sent to through the signal network that he was a member of. Does it seem like he was one of. When they say legal observers, that's what it actually is. He's a spotter for this insurgent network. Do you think that's the role he was playing?

[The Black Conservative Preacher]

I do believe that's the role he was playing. And that's still impeding on what they're doing. Because once you're a spotter, you start communicating so that other people get to the area within 90 seconds. I mean, and these people really show up quick. And I'm talking about by the masses and by the numbers because they start blowing the whistles, they start honking their car horns and getting the neighbors and the community's attention to respond. Because ICE agents are there to do their job.

[Jack Posobiec]

And so what you're describing is a criminal conspiracy. This is a criminal conspiracy to impede operations of law enforcement. This is not going out and holding a sign or chanting or something like that. They are taking active steps in furtherance of the conspiracy to obstruct justice and obstruct law enforcement. Kevin?

[Kevin Posobiec]

Yes. So not yet. Not only that, but these watchers, these community watchers, it's. It's getting chaotic. Like, they got leaked with signal gate. Now they're trying to get organized again. But as we saw last night coming up on the scene, like, there's innocent bystanders that are, like, in lobbies actually scared. And then we had people coming up to us like, oh, my gosh, like, what happened? Like, just, like, totally oblivious. So you gotta keep that in mind, too. I mean, we're doing what we can down here. And as far as, like, cooperation from JD Vance's message last week, it's, It's.

[The Black Conservative Preacher]

It's.

[Kevin Posobiec]

It's getting confusing with everybody trying to get in, and then people want to get in. Then all of a sudden, like, they are following ice. And all of a sudden, like, you know, it's getting very dangerous for people that might just want to be there to, like, blow a whistle. It's like, that's why I said this isn't a game. Or they could.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, and I think. I think Renee Good and Alex Pretty just found that out.

[Kevin Posobiec]

They sure did. They sure did. Yeah. That's exactly it. And, yeah, I mean, you know, God forbid that, like, with us, like, we're just reporters. We got called in, they thought we were ice. But what if they call in and it's like a gang member or something, or a sex offender or like, whatever. And they just, you know what I mean? Because we. We had to stop at one point and get out. And. And a couple of the other clips went viral for that because we got out and confronted these people saying, like, hey, like, stop. Please stop stalking us and harassing us.

[The Black Conservative Preacher]

And with that, to piggyback off what Kevin is saying when we got out, they're asking us for our credentials, they're asking us for our ID and to prove that we live or don't live here in Minneapolis. So they don't even want illegals in their own area because we are outsiders.

[Kevin Posobiec]

Right, Right.

[The Black Conservative Preacher]

Imagine that.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Kevin Posobiec]

They tried to flip the tables on us.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, and of course, what they're. So it sounds like what they're doing, though, is they're create. They're. They have. They have taken effective control of the street. They have taken operational control of the street. And, and by the way, so I just want to say this again, all of this is going on the Minneapolis police force, the State Police, the National Guard of Minnesota are. The Minnesota State Police, the National Guard of Minnesota, are they doing anything? Are they responding to this criminal conspiracy in any way?

[Kevin Posobiec]

Oh, yeah. I mean, the National Guard's here, but they're. They're busy passing out donuts from Dunkin Donut, a corporation, by the way. You know, he brought that up. And, yeah, last last week, we. We went and got pizza and donuts for everybody, but it was for mom and pop shops, American small businesses. But, yeah, they got that there. That's National Guard. That's what they're doing right now.

[Jack Posobiec]

When, when. And, and preacher, I'll go, I'll go back to you. You've seen these. Them organized on. On the streets in Portland. Have you ever seen them masked up in numbers like this, the way you're describing, going block by block covering the entire city? No, sir.

[The Black Conservative Preacher]

I mean, in Portland, you know, you had 2020, when they're destroying and breaking businesses, and that's what they were focused on the most. But the organization is not nothing in comparison to what I'm seeing here in Minneapolis.

[Jack Posobiec]

So they've. David, they've evolved their organizational capabilities. And, and look, Kev, you and I have been seeing this going back to Chaz in 2020, going back to the DNC in 2016 in Philadelphia and other places and stuff that we've done. So what we're seeing is the evolution of tactics, techniques and procedures. So they're getting more advanced now. They're using the encrypted communications, they're going out and these, these swarm tactics that they have, it's. It seems to me, by the way, that they're probably, we know they're operating in convoys. We've seen that throughout their social media and of course with Renee Good and others. But it would also seem to me that they probably have staging locations as well throughout the city where they're waiting for, you know, for one of these alerts to go off so that they can move in in a large group like that. Guys, I'd love to have you on. I will say, but we're out of time for the segment. I will say stay safe, stay warm. Kev, I know, I know mom wants you home, but I understand why you're doing what you're doing. So give out here. Kev, give your coordinates.

[Kevin Posobiec]

You can follow me on X and Instagram at Kevin Pasovic and I started writing as well on Substack.

[Andrew Branca]

All right.

[The Black Conservative Preacher]

And Preacher, you can follow me on X, Facebook, rumble, Instagram, YouTube, everything is the BC preacher.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right, man, I appreciate you. Appreciate you having my brother six while you're out there. All right, stay safe, guys. Be right back. Human Events Daily continues.

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[Jack Posobiec]

Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it.

[Kevin Posobiec]

Go get it.

[Jack Posobiec]

And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event. And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again. Amen. All right, Jack Wysobic, we're back. Live Human Events daily. Well, look, we're dealing with a communist insurgency. You know, I've written the book with Joshua Lyzak, the Unhumans, the Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to Crush Them. But I also wanted to get on someone who lived through a communist insurgency in a communist revolution. Ladies and gentlemen, we welcome back Shivan Fleet to the program, the author of Mao's America xi. How are you?

[Shivan Fleet]

Very, very well. Thank you so much. I so look forward to it. The interview. I just read your Twitter this morning. I'm totally with you. It is absolutely 100% communist insurgency, nothing less.

[Jack Posobiec]

So when. When you see what's going on in Minneapolis, does it remind you of the Cultural Revolution in China?

[Shivan Fleet]

It remind me of communist revolution, including Cultural Revolution, yes. But they did the same thing. Before they got power. They absolutely created crisis. And then they mobilized the masses against the sitting government, which was the Nationalist. They played the same game over and over until they got into power. The Cultural Revolution is just miles way to get. To get the back. To get back the power that he believed that his political rival had. It's all about power. And that is just that simple.

[Jack Posobiec]

So talk to us about how they create the crisis and then they use the crisis to destabilize the country.

[Shivan Fleet]

Well, for the Cultural Revolution, the crisis is there are people in position of power they want to do. They want to take us back to capitalism. That's what I was told. That's what I believed. So what do we need to do? The young kids, the Red Guards, we should go and get those people in position, including teachers, principals, get them out of power. And then eventually Mao want to replace them with his own people. But before the Marxist, before the victory of CCP taken over China, they did the same thing. They cried a crisis. They. And they. And then they mobilized people. There's one example I think a lot of people don't know about. So in 1946, they really want to weaken the American support of the Nationalist government. So they created crisis. What's that? They accused that two Marines raped Chinese students from Beijing University and it turned out to be manufactured. Doesn't matter. They mobilized 10,000 people in Beijing and demonstrated on the streets and all sorts of chaos to demand that the United States get out of China. And when they say get out of China, they don't want the government US come to support the National League. It's the same playbook they Played over and over and over. Now we see it unfold here in America.

[Jack Posobiec]

And so when, when you have an individual like a Renee Good, like an Alex Preddy, someone who goes in and is totally a true believer in these situations, they actually want those people to be killed because then they can turn them into a martyr and then they can use their, that, that act to try to smear the government that's currently in power.

[Shivan Fleet]

Exactly. They need mothers and there's a lot of mothers in China. And I grew up learning about their stories until later I found out it's all BS and those people are victims. They are true believers turned into useful idiots. And the communists here, they want more crisis, they want more deaths. They absolutely rooting for more violence and death. And that's how they're going to use that for their political gains. It's all about power.

[Jack Posobiec]

It is all about power. And so when we talk about the. I just had my brother on, he's there in Minneapolis, as well as black Preacher who's there with him working on this and Cam Higby, we see now the levels of organization. These are cadres, these are trained, they're organized, they're planned. And isn't that exactly how the organization of the Red Guards was?

[Shivan Fleet]

Yes, of course. In China, in Cultural Revolution, they had one thing going that is Mao is behind, was behind them. Mao absolutely openly told everyone that he was their Red Commander in Chief. Because of that, the Red Guards was given this power to destroy, to, to beat people, torture people, even kill people. That is what kind of a revolution that Mao was launching. So the Red Guards destroyed everything until they are destroyed by Mao. And this is the part two of the story of the communist story that the, the new American useful idiots never learn because it's never taught. And my father is the example. He joined the revolution in 1949 thinking that he, you know, that he was doing something great until afterwards he realized he was the target of the revolution solely because he was from a land landowner family. And so it, it happened over and over and over. The useful idiot never end well. Never.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, it never does. And it's only useful for those in power or those who want to take power. I have to ask, by the way, that seeing as we are talking about Minnesota, Tim Walls, he spent many times taking trips to China all the way back to, I believe, even during the Tiananmen Square protests and right after Tiananmen Square massacre, Tim Walls himself was taking trips to China. Now I spent time in China, everybody knows I'm very public about that although I have a slightly different stance on the CCP than it comes to Tim Walls. Do you think Tim is doing this on purpose and deliberately because he may have learned about this history as well?

[Shivan Fleet]

Absolutely. He's a communist. There's just no doubt about it. And he lied about being there in Tiananmen Square. He went after that, the. The massacre on the year after, but he made that June 4 as his wedding anniversary. He is absolutely a communist, and. And he knows the playbook. It is open playbook. You create a crisis and then you use that, immobilize people. Mass mobilization is the key feature of communism. They get all those people involved and then use them as pawns and to create a crisis, and then they use that against their political enemy. And in culture, during the Cultural Revolution, it's Mao's political opponent. Before, it was the sitting government, the Nationalist government, and today in America, it is the Trump administration in pro democratically elected government. So they're doing exactly the same thing, but the people don't realize that that is because we have lost the control of educational system for decades. Those people's brain was washed so clean that they just can't think critically anymore. They don't want to think. They don't even want to think. You can give them the fact that they don't want to look at the fact. So we are in the moment now. It is absolutely almost impossible to change those people's mind. So it is very, very challenging. And so a lot of people here in America were just like, when they hear, when they see someone hurt, they absolutely think this is state violence. It is a PR war. And the Trump administration has to win this war. Have to. We already passed the ruby gun. There's no way back. If we step down, they know exactly what to do next. When they cornered, they will launch a mass mobilization and then they will push back. And so basically, eventually, we're talking about 20, 26 election. They can use or this, and then.

[Jack Posobiec]

They will deploy it again. She's Van Fleet. Thank you so much for your time today. Where can people go to follow you?

[Shivan Fleet]

Yeah, please follow me on X. I tweet every day.

[Jack Posobiec]

I see him every day.

[Shivan Fleet]

It's a X Men fleet.

[Jack Posobiec]

I love following them. I love following you on their face. General Woman. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore. This is an Iheart podcast. Guaranteed human.