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Jack Posobiec
This is an iHeart podcast, Guaranteed Human.
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Jim Jack Posobic
This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
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Jack Posobiec
A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran, this is Human.
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Jim Jack Posobic
Events with your host Jim Jack Posobic.
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Unidentified Protester/Chant Leader
Christ is King.
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Ben Berkwam
I'd much rather do live television than do non live because like when they say as an example in my speech peacefully and patriotically to the Capitol, peacefully and patriotically, do you know that the Unselect committee didn't report it that I said those words? Do you know that the news never reported the words walk or march peacefully and patriotically to the Capitol? Do you know they never reported a scandal?
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Jim Jack Posobic
Governor Tim Walz, who of course was the Democratic nominee for vice president in 2024 has ended his re election bid for governor. He is not going to run for reelection. This comes as pressure has been growing around this widening welfare fraud scandal.
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Ben Berkwam
Ousted Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro and his wife both arraigned in federal court here.
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Jim Jack Posobic
In New York City today.
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Ben Berkwam
Maduro and his wife under heavy guard today driven from a detention center in Brooklyn and then loaded into an armored vehicle taken to federal court. The couple standing before the judge pleading.
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Jim Jack Posobic
Not guilty to charges of narco terrorism.
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Ben Berkwam
Conspiracy along with cocaine and weapons charges.
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Jim Jack Posobic
We're talking to the majors. We're also talking to folks that American companies that have gone into high risk destabilized areas in the world before, around around the world there are a lot of small things can do. We just are giving them the technology that's available today that's even emerged in the last five years. It's going to help drive their production up in the short term. Some of these things can be done very quickly.
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Jack Posobiec
Following an attempted break in at Vice President J.D. vance's Cincinnati home. Ansel next saying that a crazy person tried to break in by hammering the windows. And a law enforcement official confirmed the suspect to News Nation as 26 year old William Dufour. He was charged with with one felony count of vandalism and three misdemeanors for obstructing official business, criminal damaging or endangering and criminal trespass. Defore has prior criminal charges of vandalism and was actually put under the guardianship of his mother in 2024 because of a mental illness, according to court records.
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Jim Jack Posobic
1:17Pm A second wave of D.C. metropolitan Police officers show up on the east side of the Capitol. They are the first to bring in explosive ammunition rounds that they will soon distribute to officers on the West Plaza. Unseen commander Officer Robert Glover gives the first audible authorization to deploy explosives into the crowd. Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events daily. Today is January 6, 2026, is five years after the fateful events. January 6, 2021. I was there that day, was at the Ellipse, walked up to Capitol, watched most of President Trump's speech from the War Room with Rahim Kassam, walked down past the Capitol towards where my studio was at the time on Constitution Avenue. And as we were walking down Constitution Avenue, I'll never forget this. I could see patriots standing peacefully chanting, but peacefully on the steps of the Capitol. And I could see so many people there. I had spoken the night before on January 5th. So the eve of January 6th, a number of us spoke the night before. I called out the Chinese Communist Party, among others, called out the election problem and said, we need to fix this. But that was a peaceful crowd that I saw. And there's video, that great documentary called Investigate J6 that's come out later that actually depicts something, if you go back to War Room episodes, because this is even before, I wouldn't even launch Human Events Daily until later that year. I've always said this, that they threw flashbangs or stun grenades at the crowd before I heard any call to disperse, before I heard any lawful order to disperse, before I heard that it had been declared an unlawful meeting. Again, they were standing around peacefully. They were peaceful. Watch what the documentary showed that was found. Who actually started the violence on January 6? There was a peaceful crowd right up until that moment when the stun grenades were thrown. This is what I've always said for years. Watch it for yourselves.
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Ben Berkwam
What else you got?
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Unidentified Protester/Chant Leader
Traces?
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Jack Posobiec
No.
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Jim Jack Posobic
Now you can see it right there. There's no question the crowd was peaceful and the munitions were thrown upon them. Stun grenades, flashbangs. We all know what happened left. Now, the White House has a website up right now. And I want to show you this because it is, it's, it's remarkable what they've done. They've got pictures up commemorating all of the Jan Sixers that we've lost. White House gov. You can go check it out yourself. And I'd like to read the names. Kevin Greason, Matthew Perna, Benjamin Phillips, Mark Ongst, Jord Meacham, Roseanne Boyland, Christopher Stanton, Georgia David Hummel, and of course, Air Force veteran Ashley Babbitt. The Stand in the Gap foundation organized a march today. They're going to be laying a wreath for Ashley later in the hour. We're going to take that live. If it ends up happening Supposed to be around 2:45. We're going to go straight live to take that. Ashley Babbitt and The patriots of Gen.
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Ben Berkwam
6 end in our wave and our golden age has just begun.
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Jack Posobiec
This is Human Events with Jack Posit.
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Jim Jack Posobic
Now it's time for everyone to understand what America first truly means. Welcome to the second American Revolution, Jack. We are back live January 6th commemoration five years later. The patriots of J6. Well, folks, anyone that knows me and the work that Human Events does day in and day out knows that the conservative movement never stops. The fuel that keeps me, the show and the work going is blackout coffee. Let me tell you right now, for years this has been my coffee of choice. And the Human Events audience knows exactly why. This isn't just a coffee, it's America in a cup. Founded on Christian conservative values rooted in family, built on the belief that hard working Americans deserve better than the corporate swill. Blackout coffee is a family business that roasts every batch right here in the usa. To roast, you gotta try Morning Reaper. A smooth medium roast that kicks off your day without bitterness. And for the dark roast lovers brutal awakening, a bold, rich roast with deep flavor that'll keep you sharp and alert. Perfect for serving friends and family around the holidays. Because let's face it, the best gatherings start with the best coffee. So here's the deal. Go to blackoutcoffee.com poso and use promo code poso for 20% off your first order. That's blackoutcoffee.com poso support a company that shares your values, supports American jobs and fuels your freedom one strong cup at a time. Now this website guys, that, that the White House has put up, it's absolutely incredible. And the fact that the White House is willing to do this, the fact that they are putting it up there, that they have it up in full view, think back to five years ago today. People were denouncing Republicans, they were denouncing Trump left and right. Eric Erickson called for all of the protesters to be shot at January 6. Indiscriminate killings of conservatives. That's what you heard from some of these neocon podcasters. But now today, we can finally tell the truth. And one person, one woman who made it an absolute crusade to do that truth telling is Julie Kelly. She joins us now. Julie.
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Jack Posobiec
Hey Jack. Happy Insurrection. Fed direction day. 5 years. Hard to believe.
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Jim Jack Posobic
We're calling it Patriot Day. We're calling it Patriot Day. Maybe Patriots Day. We'll, we'll figure it out. What do you think? I don't know if you've had time to really dig into it. I know it's just launched. Have you, have you seen this website now with the White House has launched on Jan6. Because to me this is incredible. They have the, they have a timeline which is great. They have the commemoration of the J6ers we've lost. They have a decisive statement about what J6 really was. And then they have a timeline. They have a timeline that actually goes through everything is incredible.
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Jack Posobiec
It is. And Jack, I just think it's representative and I posted this earlier on how January six has to the political operation that it was intended to be. It has to represent the biggest backfire in American political history. I mean the Democrats, the Never Trumpers, Mike Pence, Mitch McConnell etceter, the neocon conservative echo chamber. Certainly the media thought that not only would January 6th result in the prosecution and imprisonment of Donald Trump, but also kill off the MAGA movement. And that just did not happen. And that's why you see media types and Betty Thompson is holding an alternative hearing on January 6 regurgitating the same lies that made no impact on the American people whatsoever. And just this huge backfire. And so of course the President put together that timeline, put together the accurate account of what happened before and on that day. And yes, remembering the American citizens who took their own lives rather than continue to be tormented by the Biden Department of Justice and the FBI. So yes, there's a few of them of course. Matthew Perna, the most well known but there are a few others. Jordan Mecham who is 19 year old old man who killed himself. His father found him, he had shot himself in the head right before he was supposed to be arraigned in Washington D.C. on misdemeanor charges. So these are really of course Ashley Babbitt tragic stories. But that only tells a little bit of what hundreds, thousands of Americans endured under the thumb of the Biden DOJ and Chris Wray FBI Today I posted documents that Rand Paul has published 70 pages of records related to a two year investigation of an innocent American woman. This resulted in at least four times her home and family being physically surveilled by the FBI. She like hundreds of J6ers were put on a TSA terror watch list, subjected to additional screening and scrutiny at the airport. They had all of her air flight, airplane itineraries and then finally determining that this was a case of mistaken identity, that she never entered the Capitol. Nonetheless, Jack, the D.C. u.S. Attorney at the time, Matthew Graves, the Biden appointee, wanted to prosecute her anyway, even though the FBI had said we don't have enough evidence. We don't have facial recognition. We don't have anything on the geofence warrant that they got with all the self thousands of cell phone data that people who are present at the Capitol and in Washington. So we're still learning a lot about the abuses of the DOJ and FBI related to January 6th. And I'm sure you and I share this sentiment. We have to finally bring accountability for the people responsible.
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Jim Jack Posobic
Well, there's no question about that. You know, I want to go back even a little bit, because I'm stunned, and I call it stunning. The media is apoplectic. They don't even know what to. Here. They thought that, you know, certainly he'll just, you know, let the day go by without even mentioning it. No, no. President Trump's going all the way in the White House totally leaning in on this. I want to go back to what I was saying here. And this is so key. Capitol Police response escalates tensions. Capitol police aggressively fire tear gas, flashbangs, and rubber munitions into crowds of peaceful protesters, injuring many and deliberately escalating tensions. Video evidence shows officers inexplicably removing barricades, opening Capitol doors, even waving attendees inside the building. Actions that facilitated entry while simultaneously deploying violent force against others. These inconsistent and provocative tactics turned a peaceful demonstration into chaos. And this is all true. You can see all of this on video. What they'll do is, of course, is they will, you know, they'll put up footage, but show it out of context. They'll show it completely out of context and not show who was being aggressive. And one key piece of this, and I said it in the opening, I'm gonna say it again right now. No calls to disperse. And, Julie, correct me if I'm wrong, they lied about this under oath. They lied that there were orders to disperse. Look, I was there. I was on Constitution Avenue, which is just adjacent. I didn't hear anything about that.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, I think that there is some recording, just like an automated recording that you can hear at some point. But listen, people were certainly before.
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Jim Jack Posobic
Before the munitions were thrown. I'm saying before.
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Jack Posobiec
Right. That I am not aware of. So there's a timeline here. So, obviously, the president's speech wrapped up at about 110 that day. Protesters or supporters of the president, I won't even say protester, were already at the Capitol. They were walking from the Ellipse to the Cap to the Capitol. Many told me, and we have this on video now, as soon as they arrived, they could hear the flashbangs being thrown. And this is illegal use of these, what they call non lethal munitions. You can't just throw flashbangs randomly into a crowd of people outside a government building who aren't doing anything wrong. So I have called this the greatest incident, the biggest instance of police brutality since the civil rights era. You had protesters killed by police, obviously, Ashley Babbitt, Roseanne Boylan, Kevin Greason, who suffered a heart attack as a result of one of these flashbangs. You had people being shot with rubber bullets, people bleeding from rubber bullets. You see this officer right here? I believe he was with D.C. metro Police. But for the actions of the capitol police and D.C. metro police, most of this would not have happened. And it's really unfortunate that no police officers have been held accountable. And to your point, Jack, we know some of these, I call them celebrity J6 cops. Michael Fanone, Daniel Hodges, Aguina Canel, Harry Dunn not only lied during their testimony before the first J6 Select Committee in July of 2021, they lied under oath, testifying, get this, as victims of January six, they would go to the cap, to the court, federal courthouse, and they would sit before juries and they would tell their inaccurate stories of injuries in an effort to get more prison time, excessive prison sentences for J6ers. But we now know because of body worn camera footage and other video, they did not suffer the injuries that they said that they did. Nonetheless, this was embraced by federal judges and certainly convinced D.C. juries that their tales of woe were indeed True and these J6ers needed to be punished accordingly. So this is, I think, the biggest untold story of January 6th police from Capitol Police and DC Metro, what they did to instigate a lot of the confrontations that now you see the media, Betty Thompson and others regurgitate reposting on social media to your point, with no context behind them.
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Jim Jack Posobic
Well, and it's horrific. And by the way, just as we have a minute until the break here, I want to also point out that there are. Early today, Boss Berry released a report saying that new records show that US Capitol Police captain now promoted Captain Michael Byrd, who fatally shot and killed unarmed Jan6 protester Ashley Babbitt, without warning, has been running an unaccredited daycare center with his wife from their home in Maryland and have received over. Have received a ton of money in help or potentially received a ton of money in taxpayer funds. Which goes back to some of the other stories we've been hearing about these unaccredited Daycares. I don't know who it was that tipped off Sperry to pull those records, but, man, what an incredible revelation just a few years later. Quick, quick break. We're right back with Julie Kelly, the Patriots of J.
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Ben Berkwam
About influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine.
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Jim Jack Posobic
Jack.
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Ben Berkwam
Where's Jack? Jack? He's got a great job.
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Jim Jack Posobic
All right, Jack Posobic, we are back here. January 6th commemoration, the Patriots of Jan.6. And look, I've been saying this since day one. I'm going to keep saying it here on the program. I will never forget seeing with my own eyes. And this, and this is something that I can say that I definitively saw. I've never came come up and said that I saw this or this happened or anything else. The only thing that I've ever said that I saw with my own eyes. On January 6, we were walking down Constitution Avenue. Police officers later found out mix of Capitol Police and MPD were throwing stun grenades, flashbangs at that peaceful crowd. Now, this has been verified and The White House, WhiteHouse.gov even has it up on the website. So it's not just me saying it. It's on video. It's on the White House website itself. You can all go watch it for yourselves. You can all go see it for yourselves. Crowd was peaceful. All right. The crowd was peaceful and then it descended into chaos. And I believe, personally my opinion, and we've seen this bear out, that there are elements, bad elements, who wanted the chaos that day because they didn't want an actual recitation of the problems of the votes in the various states that were under dispute. It's as simple as that. Julie Kelly, you've done more work on this than anyone. Probably you and of course our good friend Darren Beatty, who is off pursuing other work right now at the Department of State on the question of freedom of speech, which is so amazing and of course you did so much work also as well on the blood libel that was spread against these individuals by people like Jake Tapper claiming that Gen Sixers murdered brutally beat to death a police officer named Brian Sickney, which is not true, just not true at all, spread lies about them. So they were smeared early on. I even remember, I don't talk about this much. I even remember tweets saying that it was Jan Sixers who who were firing shots on in the inside the Capitol. We later find out it was a police officer shooting at someone who was unarmed. So again, just. And then of course, we all know how AOC responded to all of it, to which I responded by putting a map of where all of this was versus where her office was, which is on the other side of Capitol Hill. So Julie Kelly, that being said, it's been five years. We've got the House, we've got the Senate, we've got the White House. Where do you think we're at with all this?
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Jack Posobiec
I think that the base is understandably frustrated that they're not seeing more legal accountability and consequences for the perpetrators, not just of this vindictive, vicious, destructive January Six prosecution that ultimately ensnared 1,600Americans and unknown Americans. For example, the documents that were released by RAND Paul today, 70 pages of records related to the FBI's two year plus surveillance of a Catholic school teacher suspected of going into the Capitol. Nonetheless, she ended up on that infamous TSA terror watch list like so many other J6 or she wasn't even charged even though DC's attorney Matthew Graves the Biden appoints he wanted to charge her. But nonetheless the FBI finally said we don't have the evidence. It was a case of mistaken identity. So we don't even know about how many other cases similar to that that the FBI, Chris Wray's FBI and Joe Biden's DOJ were responsible for. But look, we've had a few prosecutors demoted and fired. We've had several FBI agents and not just January 6, but also the lawfare against the president. So we've seen prosecutors tied to both of those efforts demoted, fired, forced into retirement. We've seen several FBI agents, including top officials, the head of the New York FBI field office ousted. So that's a very good start. But it's starting to feel like Russiagate all over again, that these people are going to get away with what they did. And the next time Democrats have power, it's going to be so much worse than what we saw against the President and J Sixer. So where are our congressional hearings? Bennie Thompson putting on another big performance today with Nancy Pelos, Adam Kinzinger, the J6, celebrity cops, crisis actor Mike Fanon and his buddies. They're putting on a whole show today. We have seen little in the way of public hearings where we where the American people can hear directly from J6 victims, their families, their lawyers, what their lawyers saw holding these judges also accountable. There just has not been appears to have no appetite in Washington, the House or Senate, aside from releasing a lot of documents that are helpful. But when I post documents like I did with Rand Paul's records, again, Christine Crowder the woman who was surveilled by the FBI for two years. People are like, okay, that's great. We've seen all the documents, we've seen the records. We know who these people are. What next? And so that's the question to start 2026. What next? And I think we just have to keep pushing for more legit action, prosecutions, more hearings where the American people can see who these people are, like we saw with Jack Smith last week. And then criminal referrals against the people, DOJ and FBI agents who brazenly violated the constitutional rights of Americans to help bolster the phony narrative that January 6th was an insurrection and a domestic terror attack.
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Jim Jack Posobic
You know, we look at so many of these piece of information, we look at so much of this footage, and it's really as simple as this. And I've said this to members of the administration and others, that if, and even go back to Russiagate, you go back to everything that was done to the Trump movement, the MAGA movement, to President Trump himself, almost everyone associated with him. If there's no response to all of this, there's no response. Then what's to stop them from doing it again? What's to stop the same people when they are given power again? And we know how politics moves kind of back and forth. There's a pendulum. What's to stop them from doing again? Shout out to our great friend Charlie Kirk, by the way, because when Charlie was brought in for front of Bennie Thompson's committee, and it's my favorite, I've read pretty much all of the J6 depositions and certainly the ones of people that I know directly. And in Charlie's. I think he's the only one who pled the fifth to every single question that was asked him of the J6 committee. He wouldn't even confirm his name. He wouldn't confirm his date of birth, nothing.
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Jack Posobiec
I'm gonna pull that up.
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Jim Jack Posobic
Fifth Amendment.
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Jack Posobiec
I'm.
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Jim Jack Posobic
All of it. It's. It's just. It's just one of the most stunning things. And you're reading through it, you're just like, patriot, Patriot, Patriot, Patriot, Patriot. Julie Kelly, thank you so much for doing the yeoman's work on this and continuing the fight. Where can people go to follow you?
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Jack Posobiec
Well, and Jack, thank you for helping get this information to your followers and your viewers from the very beginning. Because I think what we did was really instrumental in helping to reverse and overturn this narrative and expose the truth and especially the abuse against these American citizens. So I'M on Substack declassified with Julie Kelly. Kelly and also X Julie underscore Kelly, too.
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Jim Jack Posobic
All right, God bless. We'll be right back. Human Events Daily continues.
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Ben Berkwam
Jack. Where's Jack? Where is he?
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Unidentified Protester/Chant Leader
Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack.
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Ben Berkwam
Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible, incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys should be getting policies.
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Jim Jack Posobic
All right, Jack Posobic, here we are. We're on with Human Events Daily right now. I want to cut to Ben Berkwam now. He's at, he's down there at the U.S. capitol on the grounds. He's on the National Mall where there's been this great commemoration going on. Ben, tell us about what went on earlier today and what we're seeing right now.
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Ben Berkwam
Hey, Jack. You know, pretty surreal day. We were here five years ago to the day when the elections were stolen in 2020 and millions of Americans wanted justice and wanted the actual investigations to be done. And I was down on the Ellipse that day and marched down here to the Capitol and then, you know, all hell broke loose. But what's crazy to think about that, Jack, is we had witnessed for four years the coup against President Trump, the real insurrection, BLM and antifa, burning down our country, attacking American citizens and the fake news propaganda media being weaponized against us. And so American citizens were rightfully pissed. They were upset. I was pissed. I was, you know, it felt like a lot of Americans, and I was out here and to come back here and to see that you've got these patriotic Americans that have been pardoned. Around 200 of the J6ers are out here. You got Mickey out here. They're going to be laying the wreath for Ashley Babbitt actually to the minute at 244 when she was murdered. So it's just, it's kind of a surreal event today coming out to commemorate, to thank President Trump for the pardons, to remember the people that have been lost in this time, and then also to demand that we still get the justice that we have not seen yet, the enemies within our country that perpetrated the Russia collusion hoax and all, the coup, the treason against President Trump, the election fraud that we saw, even the COVID mandates. I was talking to some folks earlier. Everything that's been done to the American people, until there is justice and those people are held accountable, we're in a dangerous place in this nation. But at least the J6ers are out. At least President Trump's in office and at least we're going in that direction.
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Jim Jack Posobic
So, Ben, what, what's the mood of the J6ers? You know, we were just talking with Julie Kelly about all this. When you're talking to people, there were five years on, they've been through obviously some of the worst of the worst. Many sent to the gulag for months, even years. When you're talking to them, what's the general sentiment that you hear regarding President Trump, regarding obviously their, you know, their pardons, but also the efforts of moving forward? What do they say?
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Ben Berkwam
Well, a general sense of appreciation for President Trump for sure. I mean, the fact that they're free today is only because President Trump won the election. If Kamala Harris were in office, not only would all the January 6th that are standing behind me still be in prison, there'd be many more. They were still going after people in America. So there's definitely a sense of appreciation for President Trump. But then there's also this realization that it wasn't just the pardons. It was the four years that they lost. Many of them lost their homes, their jobs, their families. You know, marriages were torn apart, children no longer speak to a lot of their parents. And so there's just the community of MAGA has been majorly impacted by this. And so the focus going forward is how do we reunite? How do we get people whole again? There's a big lawsuit that Enrique Tarrio and the Proud Boys are pushing through. We'll see where that goes. To try to get some real justice, some compensation for the people. But in general, they just want to be able to go back to living their lives, loving America. I mean, these are the most patriotic people you can imagine. They love God, they love their country, they love their families, and they just want to be able to live the life that this nation was created for its people to live. And until that happens, they're going to continue to fight until they're not ostracized for being a January 6th defendant. They're not going to be whole. And so there's this kind of mixed bag of appreciation. Definitely a sense of blessing, but also still more work to be done.
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Jim Jack Posobic
Well, that's right. And, and so we're about to see this wreath laying ceremony that's going to be coming up here in a couple of minutes for Ashley Babbitt. Walk us through the the details. What's the TikTok? What are we going to see? And we're going to blow the break here because this is important.
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Ben Berkwam
Well, it's Mickey. You know, Mickey was Ashley Babbitt's mom. She was outside the Gulag, the D.C. gulag, for over 900 days. You know, you talk about dedication. She has dedicated her life to the memory of her daughter, Ashley Babbitt. But it's not just Ashley. There were five American citizens killed that day by our own police and by a rogue government who sided with the traitors within our own country. And so today is honoring Ashley's life, but it's also remembering those that were lost that day as well as those that were lost from that point on. We had many suicides. People just took their own life because they couldn't take it anymore. And it's sad, you know, the tragedy of that. But the most important part today, and I was talking to Mickey earlier, is not just remembering Ashley and her life and honoring her life, unlike she wasn't able to do. You know, she was demonized and ostracized during Joe Biden's regime. But being able to honor that now, but then looking forward and saying, how do we make sure this never happens again?
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Jim Jack Posobic
Well, I think it's exactly right. And I understand the wreath laying, it's going to be. And Ben, walk us through. What's the significance of 2:44pm why is the wreath laying being done at 2:44pm.
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Ben Berkwam
Well, that's the moment that Ashley Babbitt was shot in the neck. She was murdered by Officer Byrd, who actually who still not only did he not get accountability, he was promoted. And so this is, that is the moment that she was murdered in the Capitol just a few hundred yards away from where I'm standing. I was actually here that day. I saw some of the first responders coming out of the building. I saw some of the Patriots that were around her coming out. Blood, blood on their hands. They, you know, I was here when they said they murdered somebody. They murdered a girl. At that point, nobody knew who she was. What had happened. 244 is the moment that Ashley took her last breath inside the U.S. capitol five years ago.
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Jim Jack Posobic
And this is incredible, this is going on that you've got the regular, the regular folks that are up there, the regular patriots, the common man. That's who's down there, that's who's up. That's who's actually standing in the gap. And it's incredible to see, see, it's incredible that they're going to be there. And just three minutes, we're just three minutes away now from this wreath laying and we know, and Ashley's mother is there, as you mentioned, Mickey is there. And it's terrible that it ever happened. Shouldn't have ever happened. Should have never gotten to this point in our country. And at some point, we're going to need a real reckoning with just how dark the situation got, not only on that day, but for the years after the persecutions of these people. Everything that went, oh, you see Ashley's. Ashley's mother there just walking into the shot. And I believe. I think she has the wreath. Is that the wreath? I don't know, Ben. I don't know if you can see it from. From your angle.
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Ben Berkwam
Yeah, no, she's just off to my right. And it looks like she's getting. She's getting ready to do it right now. But, you know, you're right. You know, it's surreal, Jack, having been here, having seen the. The attacks, and this was what that was all about. It was about silencing our side. It was about silencing the American people and intimidating people to not stand up.
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Shane from Stand in the Gap Foundation
And Mark Middleton.
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Jim Jack Posobic
It looks like they're preparing now.
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Ben Berkwam
Yeah. And. And to see the actual police here actually standing on our behalf, supporting us, protecting us, not fighting us. But you're right, it wasn't. You know, it was. It was. It was basically January 6th was designed by the Democrats to stifle any dissent. It was to shut down the proud boys and the Oath Keepers and anybody who had the gall to stand up against a tyrannical regime. The. The idea was, we are going to destroy you. And we saw.
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Jim Jack Posobic
Now, are they. Where are they? Where are they walking? Do you know where they're walking to? We can see they are.
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Ben Berkwam
It looks like they're trying to move. So Mickey is trying to get the wreath up as close as she can to the Capitol. Capitol police have basically said, this is as far as we can go. And so the. It's a bit of a standoff to, you know, whether or not they'll be able to watch.
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Jim Jack Posobic
Let's just take this audio.
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Unidentified Protester/Chant Leader
Keep talking about January 6th, how you commit fraud with our tax.
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Ben Berkwam
So it looks like we have a representative that came in and is trying to escort Ashley closer or, excuse me, Mickey, closer to be able to put the wreath down. Yeah. So there's actually a Democrat congressman who came by and was taunting the crowd. I didn't even recognize him. Like most congressmen, worthless congressmen, you don't even recognize them. But they're. They're trying to. Mickey's trying to get closer and bring the wreath up Actually to the steps of the Capitol. Doesn't look like Capitol Police are going to allow her to do that, but we'll see where they actually lay it. We're at that time now, but it is again, like you're saying, Jack, all of this was designed to intimidate people into silence, to stop people from standing up and saying what they believe. In particular, in a country like we saw.
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Jim Jack Posobic
Hold on a second, hold on a second. So what are we seeing right now? That. So, because we see that the officer there in blue is that Capitol Police or mpd. Explain to people what they're looking at.
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Ben Berkwam
It's Capital Police. Yeah. So it's Capitol Police. So you have a combination. You do have some of the Metro Police out here, but you also have Capitol Police. And they're, they're being.
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Jim Jack Posobic
She's going forward now. There she goes. She's going forward.
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Ben Berkwam
Yeah. Now it looks like now we are going forward. Yep. She's walking across the street. It looks like they're only escorting her. I don't know if we have the.
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Jim Jack Posobic
National Mall side or is the, this is the backside of the Capitol.
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Ben Berkwam
Yeah, we're on the National. We're on the National Mall side.
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Jim Jack Posobic
You're on the, that's on the National Mall. So she's being, she's being brought up, escorted.
- [38:02]
Ben Berkwam
She's. Yeah, she's being brought up somewhere. We're not exactly sure how far we're going to be able to go, but I believe she wants to go up to the steps on the backside. So if you're familiar with the Mall, this is the side or the Capital. This is the side where the inauguration happens. And she. Hang on one second. She's trying to get up to the steps and lay the wreath on the steps of the capital. It's, we're still not sure if that's going to, they're going to allow her to do that, but they clearly are allowing her to get closer.
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Unidentified Protester/Chant Leader
Land of Jesus. No racist bombing against the ground skin. There's no such a thing as a white blue eyed Jew. There's no.
- [39:05]
Ben Berkwam
You also always have some crazies out here as well.
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Jim Jack Posobic
All right, folks, so we're, we're, we're currently watching this. Ashley Babbitt's mother and the J6ers were working to go up the stand at the Gap foundation to go and place the wreath. We're now here five years. We're now five years. 2:44pm it's now 2:47pm Help us trying to figure out what's going on here. Looks like the Capitol police were not allowing the wreath to go up at one point. Now it looks like they are starting to get heated at one point. Democrat politician walked by and you can see the Jan Sixers there. This is the National Mall we're looking at right now. The Jan Sixers are gathered. They're working to get the wreath out. And you can see certainly people starting to get a bit upset. But yet again, you still see the Jan6. The very same Jan Sixers as 5 years ago. Very same Jan Sixers who were peaceful the first time around are peaceful now.
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Ben Berkwam
From here, Jack, Mickey is actually walking up. They only allowed five people to go up. She's walking up to the steps right now. We don't have a good shot of it from the vantage point. They only allowed her and four other people to go up. And they're heading up though now to lay the wreath.
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Jim Jack Posobic
Every.
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Ben Berkwam
Everyone else is told to stay back on this side, but Mickey and four others are going up to lay a wreath as we speak.
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Unidentified Protester/Chant Leader
Asleep. Asleep. Ashley babbage. Ashley b. Ashley bab. Ashley b. Ashley b. Ashley babbitt. Ashley babbitt. Ashley. Ashley bab. Ashley babbage. Ashley babbage. Ashley babbage. Ashley babbage. Ashley babbage. Ashley babbage. Ashley babbage. Ashley babbage. Ashley babbage. Ashley. Ashley babbage.
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Ben Berkwam
Come on.
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Unidentified Protester/Chant Leader
Ashley babbage. Justice for michael byrd. And we know what that looks like.
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Jim Jack Posobic
You hear the calls there. Ashley Babbitt. Ashley Babbitt. Justice for Michael Bird. The J6ers have returned to the U.S. capitol. Five years later. They're there. The patriots are there. They're peaceful. They're patriotic, just as President Trump asked.
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Ben Berkwam
Them.
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Jim Jack Posobic
Peacefully and patriotically. They're planting flowers, they're saying prayers, they're laying reads. And the Capitol police are there as well. It's an emotional situation. And you're seeing the mass now of the J6ers. They're watching as this is coming down. Want to bring Ben Berkwam back in here, I think. Oh, I see Neil McCabe there from Red State as well. Ben. Ben, tell us. Tell us what's going on now. We just saw the chant. We just saw some of the media music. Tell us what's happening.
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Ben Berkwam
Well, we got word. I was just talking to Enrique Tario that they allowed Mickey and four others to go up and lay the wreath at the steps of the Capitol. They didn't let allow anyone else, but they did allow Mickey to do that. And now we have some of the other folks that came in and they're. They're planting roses or putting roses down here, basically making a memorial, flower memorial for Ashley and for all the others that were either killed that day or that took their lives or lost their lives following January 6th. So. But as you mentioned, Jack, peaceful. You know, it's this. Our side is peaceful. MAGA is peaceful. But it's, as President Trump said, peacefully and patriotically moving down. But there. There we. There is justice. There's a reckoning that still needs to be had, and that's what the folks here want to see.
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Jim Jack Posobic
Ben, I don't know. Is anyone. Does anyone want to say hi? Does anyone want to. Is anyone chatting out there?
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Ben Berkwam
Yeah, no, definitely. I. Let me grab. Hang on one second. Give me just a second. I thought I had Enrique over here. He's moved off. Let me go grab. Give me one second. Let me go grab. Shane.
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Jim Jack Posobic
This is an incredible moment, folks. And of course, you know, we're doing this live. I didn't realize that, you know, that we'd seen it. So let's. Let's get that shot back up with the JS Sixers there that have amassed at the Capitol here five years later. This is an emotional moment, powerful moment, a moment for our nation. Patriots Day return, I believe we've got Ben now. He's got Shane from Stand in the Gap foundation there. Ben, you there?
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Ben Berkwam
Yeah. So, Shane. Yep. I got you, Jack. With Jack Posobic on the show. Shane, talk to us about today, what this day means for you. And, you know, Mickey, being able to go up there and lay that wreath.
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Shane from Stand in the Gap Foundation
Man, it is a. It is a heartfelt, you know, thing just to be here. Surreal walking down Constitution Avenue. We got to walk down there together. But to see them walk. Ashley Babbitt and four other people, I mean, Ashley Babbitt's mother, Mickey Widhoff, up to the steps to the Capitol to lay the flowers. It just really hits home that four people died on January 6th. You know, we were. I was beaten from behind with the baton. Actually, the cop that beat me from behind is standing over there. Commander bagshaw of the D.C. metropolitan Police Department is standing right over there and had to protect us. Today, he hit Victoria White over the head 32 times with the baton when she took. No offensive action, only defensive act. Just stops screaming in the tunnel when I was there. And so this is just a. It's. It's a lot of sensory overload. But it's been a wonderful experience to be on the Ellipse, to walk down Here to see all my brothers and sisters who suffered and were forged in the fire with me through January 6th. And just to, it's just a wonderful gathering. It's been, it's been a good, it's, I think it's, it's a process of healing and we're thankful for President Trump, for pardon us, but we need some accountability. We need to see the J6 committee, Maduro or perp walked. We need to see these people held accountable. We haven't had accountability for Covid. We haven't. Cash Patel hasn't turned the FBI headquarters into a museum yet. Like, we're still, we're patiently waiting. We're, we support President Trump, but we, we need to see action. We need to like, think Bannon says. Action, action, action. We need to see some action. But we are, we're thankful to be here and this is such a wonderful day and a wonderful gathering. Thank you for Real America's Voice for coming.
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Ben Berkwam
The organization Stand in the Gap. Where can people get more information about.
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Shane from Stand in the Gap Foundation
If you go to StandInTheGap foundation, that is an organization that is focused right now primarily on helping January 6ers put their lives back together together because we have been pardoned. But we also went through two years of solitary confinement through some ptsd. We were assaulted by guards, inmates. We, we were. Two years. No visits two years, no religious services a year. No haircut a year, no fingernail clippers. So it has been difficult for people to get back to work. And what people don't realize is that a lot of people have, if they do a background check for your job, they pull up your record and it says all your offenses for J6. But in really fine print below it, it says pardoned by the President. So it still shows if anybody is a left foot wing at that job, your, your, your applications going in the trash are going to the bottom of the stack. So we're, we're trying to fight. If you guys will help us support the J6 community going forward, we will be very thankful.
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Ben Berkwam
Thank you, Shane. Jack, why'd you go to jail?
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Jim Jack Posobic
That's incredible. You know, we've, I don't know what we're doing in terms of breaks. My show ends here in a, in just a minute. So I just like to say thank you and of course to everybody out there, please go and support Stan the Gap Foundation. Incredible work that you guys have done, putting on this march, bringing together the J6ers, being a voice and a clearinghouse for everybody, for everyone coming together on this day, this commemoration five years later. Five years. Just an incredible shot to see so many of the J6ers returning. Just unremarkable images, unremarkable visuals that, you know, we really just want everyone to be able to see that this is a peaceful movement. This has always been a patriotic movement. And the fact, the fact that they're able to do it five years later just speaks to that. Remember the Patriots of Jan6. And maybe going forward, we'll refer to Jan6 as Patriots Day. Ladies and gentlemen, as well, always, you have my permission to lay ashore.
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Jack Posobiec
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Jim Jack Posobic
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