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Jack Posobiec
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Jack Posobiec
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Evita Duffy
A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran.
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Jack Posobiec
This is Human Events with your host Jack Posobie. Christ is King Food stamp recipients are suing the USDA after new restrictions limit what they can buy with taxpayer funded benefits. The policy blocks purchases of things like candy, soda and energy drinks through the SNAP program. The Trump administration says if taxpayers are footing the food bill, then junk shouldn't be on the menu.
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Cuba is in the dark. The entire electrical grid collapsing as the country struggles with an energy crisis, leaving millions on the island without power. It's been three months since a drop of oil has reached the country. Highways are empty because there's no gas. Conditions are deteriorating.
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Joe Kent
I think Cuba see the end. You know all my life I've been hearing about the United States and Cuba. When will the United States do it? I do believe I'll be the honor of having the honor of taking Cuba. That'd be good. That's a big honor.
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Jack Posobiec
Taking Cuba.
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Joe Kent
Taking Cuba in some form. Yeah, taking Cuba. I mean whether I free it, take it, I think I could do anything I want with it.
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News Reporter
A US owned oil tanker targeted in the Strait of Hormuz, one of several attacked by Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps. The devastation caused to the vessels which can hold up to hundreds of millions of dollars worth of crude, was clear to see. Since the start of the US and Israel's war with Iran just over two weeks ago, 500 tankers have been Struck in the strait this morning.
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Israel says they've killed Iran's security chief, Ali Larijani, one of the remaining faces of the regime. Just days ago, in a show of defiance, he appeared in a public march when a strike landed nearby. Killed alongside him Golem Reza Soleimani, the head of the Basij, the religious militia responsible for the brutal suppression of protesters. Meantime, Iran unleashed a wave of new attacks across the region. Overnight, a drone struck this hotel in Baghdad, not far from the US Embassy, setting off a fiery explosion. And another attack targeted the US Embassy itself. Iraqi officials say air defense systems shot down a rocket nearby. Multiple waves of Iranian attacks. Officials call it the most intense assault since the war began.
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Jack Posobiec
The Iranian regime has told Sky News, if you put boots on the ground in Iraq, it will be another Vietnam. Are you afraid of that?
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Joe Kent
No, I'm not afraid of. I'm really not afraid of anything.
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Jack Posobiec
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. Today is, of course, March 17, 2026, Anno Domini, St. Patrick's Day. And guys, if you could throw that shot up of the White House there, you could see the flags are back up. The tornado warning, ultimately it didn't take place last night. No tornadoes. And what do we see? Oh, that's right, the green in the water fountain for the incredible St. Patrick's Day that we have. But that said, what is the state of Ireland right now? Well, let's talk about the state of Ireland because the state of Ireland is in a state of danger. And Ireland is in a state of danger because since the year 2000, the foreign born population has gone from 9% in the year 2000 all the way up to 22% in 2024, 2025. And the foreign population that's come in largely has been from the third world. That's more than one in five from Ireland or excuse me, more than one in five are not from Ireland. And they are told by their people, including the president of Ireland who was on TV earlier today saying that anyone can be Irish, that there are Irish and new Irish. No, I disagree with that. I fundamentally reject that. There is the Irish and that is it. The Irish people are the owners of Ireland. Every single blade of grass on the Emerald Isle belongs to the Irish people. And it always has and it always will. A nation is its people. These things are very, very hard to create and as we are seeing, very easy to destroy. So when you look at the history of St. Patrick and you look at the history of what he did, bringing Christianity to Ireland. This Catholic priest, then later bishop, a former slave, comes to Ireland, teaches the Holy Trinity, being born in Roman Britain and then going over driving the snakes out. Yeah, we need to drive the snakes out, don't we folks understand your history, understand what makes you a nation. Does Ireland need cultural enrichment? No. Ireland has one of the richest cultures on the face of the planet. It's true. It's, it's great. It's an incredible culture. It's one of the best cultures. And the indigenous people of Ireland are the Irish people. That island has always been theirs and they have fought for it and they have bled for it against all odds. And now that very island is threatened by total replacement by foreigners. Conor McGregor came to the White House one year ago today and warned of the mass suppression of the Irish people. And it is time for the Irish people to raise up. Make Ireland Irish again. Make Ireland Irish today. Be right back. Jack Fiscovic Human Events daily. With Verbo Care help is always ready
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Joe Kent
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Trish McLaughlin
This is Human Events with Jack Posoba.
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Jack Posobiec
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Trish McLaughlin
Jack, it's great to be back with you. Good to see you.
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Jack Posobiec
All right, you're adjusting to the new. The new. The new tempo, the new operational tempo there.
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Trish McLaughlin
Yes. Slower pace, that's for sure. But it's been good to be with family and take a beat.
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Jack Posobiec
All right, well, we got to get you off the sidelines because when. When we're seeing this Save America act that we're trying to push it through in, in the Senate. The House wants to do it, the Senate do it, the President's called for it. Let's take a step back and let's, let's actually look at the situation. I was just talking about Ireland and their immigration problems. We still face problems here in the United States regarding this because we had these illegal aliens on the rolls. We have so much more that the SAVE act covers. From your position at dhs, you had direct access to that information. So paint for us the picture of where things are now without the Save America Act.
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Trish McLaughlin
Yeah. I've yet to see a coherent argument on the other side why we should not pass the Save America Act. All 53 Republican senators should be doing just that. And it really does put our national security and of course our election integrity at risk that they're not willing to pass. I mean, Jack, we've heard from Senator Schumer and a lot of these Democrat senators voicing concern that there would be ICE agents at the voting locations come election day and that they were actually concerned about this when they're claiming that there are non, that there are not non citizens and illegal aliens voting. Part of Homeland Security, beyond the immigration aspect is cisa, which safeguards our infrastructure, including our election infrastructure. That agency itself, while there's been great efforts to reform it, they've gone really off mission and we're very focused on thwarting what they would call information, really censoring speech. So we do have a massive problem outside of just voter ID and the election integrity space. John Solomon, who I have great respect for, great reporter who I think you know. Well, he just came out with a report saying that in 2020.
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Jack Posobiec
You're getting ahead of me because this was my second question, this was my follow up question and I was going to say, so you know, Tricia, we have this report from just the news and John, our colleague John Solomon, but of course, because you're already ahead of us. So yes, please, if I can get you to comment on this, this report. We're talking about the voter rolls here, China accessing the voter files. Because this is, we know, we're told that 2020. I remember Chris Krebs over at CISA, he kept saying over and over and over, 2020 was the most secure election. 2020 was the most secure election. And yet now we have this information. What's going on?
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Trish McLaughlin
Well, and I'd love to remind viewers too, Jack, remember CISA was actually housed, what was that? Ministry of Truth that the Biden administration introduced in 2021 and eventually purportedly shuttered based on public backlash.
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Jack Posobiec
But as far as this report, there was a guy on a podcast called Human Events Daily who took a lot of exception to that board, the disinformation government's board, and a certain nich, Nina Jankovic, who was going to be running it and possibly caused a little bit of a stir back in 2021 when all that happened. I forget who that guy was, though.
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Trish McLaughlin
I could only imagine. No, Jack, thank you for your service and doing that and exposing it. You've exposed this and so many other really deep state issues and things that really imperil the American people, our freedom and our rights. As far as this report goes, it's yet to be determined. Was the Chinese government able to actually infiltrate and alter those voter rolls? Was Iran, Was other adversarial nations? I think that's a really huge question. That's more information is going to have to come out about.
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Jack Posobiec
No, I think it's exactly right. And so the story there, questions about the Chinese having access to our voter files, which by the way, I have to say, just as, as a, as a joke, a little bit that half joke, I suppose, that I know the president looks like he has postponed this meeting with Xi Jinping. He was expected to go at the end of the month there to Beijing. But I'm almost wondering if perhaps we can go to the Chinese Communist Party and ask them for help with the Save America act, because if they have access to our voter rolls, maybe they can tell us where the illegals are on the voter rolls and we can just match those up and take it from there.
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Trish McLaughlin
Oh, you're exactly right. What a, what a bleak state we're in. I mean, Schumer and these other Democrats, but also Republicans likening this to Jim Crow and saying that there is infringement upon married women such as myself, new, newly married. Because we were.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, yeah, I was just thinking to ask Trisha, you just got married, you know, are you, are you still able to vote? Did you lose your rights? Are we living in Handmaid's Tale? Or do you still have the ability, were you able to figure it out how to, how to register after you got married?
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Trish McLaughlin
I was still able to register to vote in Ohio. Somehow. I'm still able to fly. I'm still able to use my ID to buy a beer. These are pretty common sense things that every single American can do, whether it be women or African American people. We're pretty intelligent Americans.
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Jack Posobiec
So what's really going on here politically. Why is it that we see so much of the establishment fight against these, when in truth, when we get pulling back on this, these things like, things like voter ID and getting illegals out of voting are so broadly supported by, by the way, all across the political
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Trish McLaughlin
spectrum, 70% of Democrats, according to NBC, actually agree that we should have voter ID to vote and that you should be able to present your citizenship. So this really is a 9010 issue. I think that they don't want to give the president any political lens is an extension of Trump derangement syndrome. But further, I do think that they know that there are cases where illegal aliens and people who should be voting, who should not be voting, are voting, and they want to continue to encourage that. There is a reason, Jack, in my opinion, that that border was flooded and Joe Biden was waving people in, that all of those Democrats and the 2024 primary, excuse me, 2020 primary, were saying that they were going to give health care to illegal aliens and that it shouldn't be a crime to enter the country illegally. Those are their voters and they don't want to thwart them.
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Jack Posobiec
And that's, and that's the problem. That's the problem right there is that they don't actually want to represent the American people. They don't actually want to stand up and do the right thing because there are too many entrenched interests that are enjoying the fruits of this. Because, I mean, and let's just be honest, there are people who are worried about the pressure that this is going to put on illegal aliens. So Democrats, of course, don't want the voters, but unfortunately, there are many people from the Republican side that have ties to the U.S. chamber of Commerce and others that are very concerned because they know that the dirty little secret is that that cheap foreign labor is keeping a lot of their companies and a lot of their interests afloat.
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Trish McLaughlin
Oh, I completely agree. And the fact of the matter is, you do hear it from the left, of course, but you also hear it from the right, especially, you know, of course, those Republican members who believe that we should be using essentially slave labor and these illegal aliens to cheapen wages, to cheapen the price of goods for us. But the fact of the matter is, if illegal alien workforce was actually effective for our economy, then Joe Biden would have had a booming economy. Of course, he didn't have that. We, when he flooded our country with 10 to 15 million illegal aliens and we still had a crap economy. There is no correlation. And it's really just a Cop out.
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Jack Posobiec
No, it's exactly right. I remember someone saying that it's going to help with inflation if we have more people because there's more people to spend the dollars. The arguments just completely fall apart every time you look at it because we know by the way that by and large with these illegals, when they're coming in, they're not spending most of their money here, they're sending the money back. They're sending it back in remittances. So you know, places like Springfield, Ohio, others where, where they've been hit by this, they don't even actually get the financial or economic benefit to the area that they always claim is going to come.
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Trish McLaughlin
Exactly. And jack to that. And there's actually a rule that just went into effect from the Department of Transportation just yesterday saying non domiciled aliens, including those who are in this country illegally will no longer have the option or right to have a commercial driver's license. This is very common sense. When there's no longer these non domicile drivers, we don't have a record of what their driving is like. We don't know if they've had DUIs.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, I think we may have lost a little bit of a connection there with Trisha. I don't know, perhaps it was the Chinese Communist Party hacking into her, her connection there. But of course, go give her a follow over at Trisha Ohio. And it's great to see the great Trisha McLaughlin staying in the fight. Human Events Daily will be right back.
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Joe Kent
Talk about influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine. Jack. Where's Jack? Jack? He's got a great job.
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Jack Posobiec
All right, folks, Jack Posobic here in the darkness. That's kind of interesting. On Human Events Daily. We've got, we're very excited to have our next guest. It's Winton hall from Breitbart News. He's coming on because we need to talk about China. China is so important. China is in the AI fight with the United States. And in this AI fight the question is, is this going to be a national security concern. Well, it certainly is. And we just hear about China with the voting roll. So let's get him on now. Wynton hall from Breitbart News, the author of the new book Code Red joins us here. Wynton, how are you?
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Wynton Hall
Oh, great to be with you, Jack. Thank you.
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Jack Posobiec
All right, so are we losing the China war to or the AI war to China? What do you say?
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Wynton Hall
We're not yet, but we, we've got to make sure that we stay ahead. We definitely have a lead because of our advancements in semiconductors. And President Trump and Vice President Vance have doing an amazing job of really making sure that we have what we need to win that AI race. But we cannot be caught flat footed. We saw with the deep seat our one moment that one day wipeout, biggest historic one day market cap loss when they rocked Nvidia with a $600 billion market cap wipeout when they released Deepseek. And so they came to play. Right. We know that since 2017 they've had this determined drive to make sure that they dominate by 2030 in the global air race. And I think Americans sometimes say, well, how does that affect me? I think it's two things. I think there's the economic component which we sort of just alluded to. In addition to that, the upside is that on any given day, depending upon market fluctuation, you're looking at a third of The S&P 500 made up of the Magnificent Seven, the seven large American tech companies. So there's the plus and the minus there. But I don't have to tell you, you're the expert. You know that the military piece is the real part because that involves human lives, not just capital. And we can talk a lot about why we have to win that race in Code Red. What I say is we've got to beat China without becoming China. And I think we can do that. I think we have a plan to do that. But it's going to take a lot and I think a lot of Americans maybe are just coming late to this conversation and realizing that, wow, this really is a 5D new chess game that we got to play.
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Jack Posobiec
And now and this situation is actually serious because, you know, we look as the United States is getting involved in Iran, what's China doing? Oh, they're messing up right outside of Taiwan. Now personally, I'm a guy who's always said that I don't think China wants to take Taiwan directly by force, but certainly they are showing us the optionality that they have now you add AI targeting to any of the packages that they could be looking at with Taiwan island looking at the packages in terms of U.S. military installations, this shows exactly what they could do to apply that to their military and put a really strong squeeze on the, on the Republic of Taiwan. Well, the Republic of China.
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Wynton Hall
Yeah. I mean, Jack, you nailed it. One of the things that people need to understand is that one of the things that I, in the, in the tech, in the defense tech sector space will really excel at. We often think of these, you know, sort of Hollywood things of, you know, Terminator with laser beam eyes and things. And certainly the autonomous warfare piece is important and I talk about that. But the real thing that on a just broad and very, very effective level it is, is this mass scale scale pattern recognition. And so when you have all this intel information, all this intercepted communication, all these audio and video and satellite being able to quickly boil that down to actionable intel that used to take hundreds of human officers months to be able to do, can be done in warp speed. That's a huge advantage for us. We've seen it being used right now with Iran. We've seen used in the Maduro raid. But it also means, that's your point, that that democratization of that power and other nation states and non state actors who obtain it, that also gives them massive leverage. I think the other thing.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, in China, yeah, I was just gonna add. So China, we've actually been covering it. Not a lot of people have talked about this here at human events. We've been covering how China is using their AI functionality along with their new satellite technology to be able to provide images of the US military as it's conducting this operation in Iran. Whether it's the Ford, whether it's the USS Tripoli that's headed up through the Straits of Malacca right now with that 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit there. Whether it's planes on the tarmac, they're potentially able to provide targeting for information to the Iranians. I mean they are showing us a masterclass in real time how they're able to pair their new technology with AI. And guess what? They're providing it for the entire world to see. They're bragging, aren't they?
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Wynton Hall
Absolutely. It's a muscle flex. You, you said it exactly right. And I think the other thing too is, you know, when you look at the resource allocation that they have poured into this, Let me. I think a lot of us probably wouldn't be aware they spend, China spends more on semiconductor imports than they do on oil, okay? So that just really shows you where their priorities are in that 2017 plan they laid out for 2030 dominance. The other thing that you, that you take into consideration of that is telescoping this out as both superpowers are racing toward what's known as rsi, Recursive self improvement. And what is that? It is when a AI can automate autonomously, improve and update its own code. We're not there yet. Technologically anthropic. Just had some recent data on this. But when you get something that is like rsi, the exponential goes up. And anybody in the defense space will tell you if that theoretical construct were to be achieved, think about this. You would have, you know, full spectrum battlefield dominance in things like encryption, cyber attacks, cybersecurity, hacking of missile systems, hacking of infrastructure. So the reason why people say we've got to beat China in this AI race is once whoever gets there first, they really do gain this level of battlefield supremacy that is unlike anything we've seen people say. Sometimes to me, they'll say, aren't a lot of these just marketing pitches by these huge trillion dollar companies so that they can raise investor capital by making it sound like their tech is so important? Look, I think two things can be true at the same time, right? No doubt. Look, from the market side, and as a business, I'm sure they use that to build a capital raise. But I don't have to tell you, you've lived it and you know it probably better than most in our movement. This is real. China is there to play and they are putting their money where their mouth is.
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Jack Posobiec
Tell us what the name again, the name of the book and where people can get it.
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Wynton Hall
Oh, thank you. Code Red. The left, the right, China and the Race to Control AI. And it came out today. And you can get it anywhere. Books are sold and on Amazon for sure.
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Jack Posobiec
I didn't even realize. So not only is it happy St. Patrick's Day to you, it's Happy pub day. So go and check that out, folks. And. And as we've been here just. Guys, look, we've been tracking it. Mizar Vision. China is showing us our own military operations and showing our adversaries in real time. What is the threat? The threat is now. Check this book out. Be right back. Human Events Daily.
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Joe Kent
Jack. Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing where we stomped about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys Who've been getting policies.
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Jack Posobiec
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Joe Kent
Good.
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Evita Duffy
Thanks for having me, Jack.
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Jack Posobiec
No, it's good to have you on. And I guess this is when I've talked before about the generational divide, how I believe there is this sort of generational and it's just something that is when it comes to foreign intervention, when it comes to war, when it comes to these matters. Is that something that we're seeing now when we look at the Iran operation where there's, there's people over a certain age that are fully behind it, there's people sort of who are in the middle and then there's young people that are just totally opposed to it. Do I have that right? Am I seeing it? What are you seeing out there?
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Evita Duffy
Yeah, well, let's just dig into the polling right now. So you have 72% of independents who are saying that they are against this war for Gen Z. This is an NPR poll from just this month. 62% of Gen Z voters disprove of President Trump's handling of Iran. 24% approve. Now this is of course significant because it's not just polling left wing libs who are overwhelmingly against this conflict. But included in that Gen Z coalition are a lot of conservatives who actually voted for President Trump. President Trump historically won Gen z Men in 2024. Whoever thought that could have happened? It did. And so I think what's happening, Jack, is, and this is a narrative problem, a lot of gen zers are associating the war in Iran that we're having right now with Iraq and Afghanistan. And the statement that Joe Kent came out with today narratively does not help that at all.
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Trish McLaughlin
Right.
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Evita Duffy
He said this is Iraq 2.0 and we're doing this on behalf of Israel. That's not some Podcaster saying that that's Joe Kent. So the problem now is a lot of young people are viewing this as Iraq 2.0. And what happened when we went into these forever wars in the Middle East? You had trillions of dollars being spent on these wars. How do we afford them? Well, we borrowed money. This of course, increases deficits, increases our national debt, increases inflation. It devalues the American currency and that takes away the American dream from young people. President Trump knows this. President Trump has been against forever wars for his entire political career.
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Trish McLaughlin
Right.
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Evita Duffy
And so I don't think that what's happening in Iran is necessarily what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan. The problem is that there's a narrative that it is and we're ahead of midterms. And if you're a black pillar and you're worried about, you know, the Trump admin isn't doing enough, we're not, we're not being successful enough, which I disagree with. But if you really want to see nothing happen, let's see what happens in the midterms when the Democrats take back the House or potentially take back the Senate and then we're going through two years of incessant impeachment proceedings.
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Jack Posobiec
And I do think, by the way, that, you know, this, and this is something that I've brought up so many times as well. I said, guys, it's been two weeks. You know, it has been two weeks, two weeks and a couple of days. That is so different. Cuz I remember, I remember the Iraq war, I remember the mobilization, I remember the months and months that went into that, went into sort of the championing for the war. Colin Powell goes up to the UN is talking about the weapons of mass destruction, Remember the whole thing, all right, this was laid out systemically by the administration, by the Bush administration over a long period of time. And at the same time people have to remember, you know, when you look back on it, that in context, 9, 11 wasn't that long before. And so people were very traumatized, just the American people were very traumatized by that attack and were feeling vulnerable, feeling at risk, feeling like another terrorist attack could happen and we're looking for the government to protect them. And what the Bush administration did was squander that trust, absolutely squander that trust and say, oh, we need to go and do this because this is the big problem. And not only. And that was far more than just, you know, airstrikes and hitting military installations. That was a full on ground invasion where when, you know, my senior year, I remember people who saying, hey, I'm going to enlist in the Army. And they did. And I knew people who enlisted and were in that pipeline and went straight to Iraq. And I know people came back. I know people who didn't come back. And that's just how it was during those years. So fundamentally, this is already a different thing. There's no question about that. And by the way, I've not said at all that people shouldn't be allowed to debate, because this is the United States of America. And in the United States of America, if you are going to, if you have freedom of speech, you should be able to exercise that freedom of speech. When you have a war, when you have invasions, when you have, you know, questions about invasions, that is the kind of thing that's always going to be controversial and should be debated the most. There's no question. And, you know, that's one thing, and I'll throw it to you, Evita, that we have actually seen some people calling for shutting down the debate. And I think that's a problem, isn't it?
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Evita Duffy
No, I mean, we certainly shouldn't be shutting down debate. I mean, I think from a young person's POV, you talk about the memory of 9 11, how that impacted Iraq and Afghanistan and forever wars in the Middle East. The perception of them, the Gen Z perspective, is radically different. I mean, I was 1 year old when 911 happened. I don't remember that. What I remember is being at war for my entire childhood. And I remember going off to college and then afterwards and realizing, oh, this is not the America of my parents and grandparents. Now, reckless spending is reckless spending, and that's not just about wars, but certainly forever wars in the Middle east contributed to that. But again, Jack, I think you're right to point out it's been two weeks. It hasn't been 20 years. If we're going to call this a forever war, I'd be over 40 years old right now. I'm not. So let everybody just chill out for a second. And I think I'd like to see, especially from some of the conservatives in the room, with all the name calling and the shutting down the debate, you're not maga. Instead, what I'd like to see is some focusing on the midterms. I mean, Charlie Kirk, before he died, his entire goal, right, was mobilizing people. I saw a tweet from TP Action yesterday. They're registering people to vote. They are door knocking. They are doing the work on the ground. Meanwhile, you have the podcast wars. And I think people engaging in A lot of just vitriol for clicks and not even necessarily debate. But again, people saying you're not maga and it's just so unhelpful and silly at a time like this when we need to be coalescing together ahead of the midterms.
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Jack Posobiec
I appreciate you saying that, Evita, because there's been a lot of calls for me to engage in the podcast wars. And what side are you on? Pasobic. And who's. Do you support this podcast or this podcast? Are you in this camp? Are you in that camp? And I always just kind of say, you know, I support Charlie, I support Turning Point, you know, I support America, I support Trump. Like all the things that I've always supported that. I, I just want to win and keep the coalition together at all costs. I'm not trying to play these games. We gotta put a pin in that. And we have a quick break. We'll be right back. Human Events Daily.
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Evita Duffy
There's no meaningful conversation being had. And Jack, you know, you and I are both part of new media. I love new media. It's great. The corporate media, the propaganda press had been doing a terrible job for decades lying to the American people. The flip side of that is that new media is full of a lot of personalities who are very self absorbed, who are cult of personalities if we're being honest. And everything is about them and everything is about getting other people to be absorbed into their drama in order to promote themselves. That's really what it's all about. It's deeply selfish and it's unproductive and especially when they're ostensibly our sides or our voices. It doesn't do anything to help the movement. In fact, it actually creates division. I mean, we're acting like losers right now. This is what's so obnoxious to me. Jack. 2024 was incredible. I mean, Trump won the popular vote. He won Gen Z Men. He did better with Gen Z women than he did in 2020. I mean, actually the numbers for Gen Z Women were incredible even if he didn't win them just because Gen Z women never. Young women never vote for Republicans. But they did. He did really well with them. And all of a sudden we are acting like losers right now. We are acting like losers with these stupid podcast wars and all of the back and forth. He's not maga, she's not maga. I'm so sick of it. It's completely unproduction.
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Jack Posobiec
No, that's exactly right. And at the end of the day, I said this yesterday and it was kind of. I don't know, I was kind of making the rounds because they clipped it. And I said, if, if there is, you know, a sort of. Because, you know, the President brought it up about, you know, MAGA means you support Donald Trump. And I think that's fair. He certainly earned that. There's no question. But there are, you know, and if you need a name for it, there is sort of this America first group, which is. Is people who support the various policies of 2016, 2020, 2024, but perhaps would be willing to do so without the president. So they're, you know, more, you know, more focus on immigration, more focus on trade, you know, no focus at all on foreign policy. And so that if I see a split, that's where I see the split. Because. And I was on Sky News the other day and they asked me about this. They said, is, is MAGA splitting from Trump? And I said, no, I don't see a MAGA splitting from Trump at all. That you look at poll after poll, and people who identify as MAGA do, by and large, stick with the president. It's like 80 do. I think it's 94%, something like that. 94% are still with the President. So, you know, that being said, though, what you're pointing out is that there's a larger coalition that can get you beyond maga, Republicans, it can get you into independence, it can get you into perhaps former Democrats. It can get you into all sorts of things that take you from, you know, 45% of the country into 55% into 60%. And that's what the goal is about.
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Evita Duffy
Yeah, I mean, that's what you need to win. I mean, that's what Charlie Kirk's whole goal was, you know, Jack, I mean, something that I feel like has been really missing from this conversation about war with Iran, and this goes beyond President Trump. And I think that there's certainly an opportunity for us to midnight hammer what's happening in Iran right now and just say, all right, we're in to victory, we're out. And that's been like Trump's whole mo. He's done that for a long time. I don't think we have any reason to believe that this is gonna be a 20 year conflict based off of who President Trump is and his track record. But if this does become a 20 year conflict, and again, that wouldn't even be President Trump's fault. It would certainly outlive him. The problem that I see, one of the biggest problems is mass immigration and how conflicts across the globe have destabilized Western countries via all these refugees, people asking for asylum. There hasn't been a lot of conversation about that, frankly, among serious people in our movement, and it's actually one of the biggest ones that I see. And again, this wouldn't be a President Trump problem. This would be the preceding presidents. This is why deportations are so essential. This is why passing the SAVE act is so necessary right now. This is why Congress has to get it into gear right now and, and protect our country insulated from another Joe Biden who will gladly let in millions of people or a bad Republican. And by the way, there's been a lot of bad Republicans in the past. The track record for Democrat and Republican presidents has been mass immigration, amnesty, you name it, that's what they've stood for. And so I'm worried about what happens post Trump that conversation is even being had.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, there's a lot of questions, and this is certainly why. And I threw that up. I threw a tweet up yesterday about that, talking about, you know, who supported JD Vance back, not in terms of, you know, right now, but in terms of putting him on the ticket for 2024. Because I remember Charlie Kirk was there. I remember that's where Charlie was 100%. And he spent so much time on that. He spent so much energy on that. And there are a lot of people who fought tooth and nail regarding that pick. And where do we go? 2024 or, you know, 2026, 2028, potentially beyond 2032, that is all going to matter. And I think, quite frankly, Vita, that it's all of those questions that are causing a lot of the fights that you see right now, because there are people who are jockeying for position. And I'll simply put it this way, that the 2028 primary isn't starting sometime in the future. It's already begun.
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Evita Duffy
Yeah. One, I couldn't agree with that more. And I think, you know, it's interesting that Charlie made his stance clear right away, and then Erica Kirk, you know, echoed it on the stage at turning point, endorsing J.D. vance right away. But certainly there are a lot of people who are in the mix for potentially running for office and becoming president, and the future of the party depends on that. That's why, Jack, when you're like, let's not shut down the debate. I couldn't agree more, because the future of who we are as a movement is really just about to be solidified or defined, I think, in this post Trump era. And so instead of focusing on these cult of personalities in the podcast wars, serious conversations about who we are as a movement need to be happening.
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Jack Posobiec
It's what it's all about. This is about agency. It's about men standing up and being leaders again and men and women joining together and starting families for our country, as you guys are doing, by the way. Congrats again on that. And I hope everything is going well. But it's about actually doing these things. Don't be a follower. Don't make it be, you know, just a slogan. You have to be a leader, be a rebel, start a family. I started saying that years ago and it's, it's just amazing to see that people, people like Evita Duffy and, and her excellent husband are actually doing that. So, Evita, God bless you. Tell us where people can go to follow you and get access to your rants and ravings.
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Evita Duffy
Underscore one is my ex in my Instagram. And you can go to Alfonso for Wisconsin dot com. My husband is running for Congress in the seventh district of Wisconsin.
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Jack Posobiec
Yes. And his rants and ravings are far, far more professional, polished, and gentlemanly. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for enjoying us. It is true. It's very true. Thank you so much for joining us here. Human Events Daily. We'll be back tomorrow. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore. This is an iHeart podcast, Guaranteed Human.