Human Events with Jack Posobiec, March 5th, 2026

Summary

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Human Events with Jack Posobiec

Date: March 5, 2026
Platform: Real America’s Voice / iHeartPodcasts
Host: Jack Posobiec
Key Guests: Rich Barris ("The People's Pundit"), Kristi Noem (U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security), John Bachmann

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the sweeping geopolitical and domestic changes in the U.S. and abroad, particularly the reshuffling of key Trump administration officials, ongoing U.S.-Iran conflicts and public sentiment about foreign intervention, and a retrospective look at the Monroe Doctrine’s enduring legacy and Reagan’s interventions, with parallels drawn to the present. Jack Posobiec and guests deliver analysis, polling insights, and on-the-ground perspectives, with a strong focus on the intersection of generational attitudes, American priorities, and the Monroe Doctrine’s 21st-century revival.

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Main Segments & Key Discussion Points

1. Breaking News: Cabinet Shakeup and White House Strategy

[05:05–09:34]

• President Trump appoints Oklahoma Senator Markwayne Mullin as the new Secretary of Homeland Security.
• Kristi Noem, outgoing Secretary, becomes Special Envoy for “Shield of the Americas”—a new security initiative focused on the Western Hemisphere.
• Discussion of the political calculation behind shuffling Noem “out from underneath the line of fire,” especially in a midterm year.

"She had to go... There was really two choices: find another utilization for her and get her out from underneath the line of fire, or wait for Democrats to take aim and do their thing. It was better and smarter to move her now."
—Rich Barris [14:22]

• Trump’s choice of a sitting Senator seen as a confirmation tactic to ease Senate passage.

Notable Quotes

“President Trump knows from past experience… appointing a senator is more likely to be confirmed by the United States Senate.”
—Jack Posobiec [08:37]

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2. War in Iran & Foreign Policy Divide

[03:07–04:43, 12:20–13:53, 27:22–35:22]

• Latest U.S. airstrikes on Iran, destruction of Iranian warships, and Iran's retaliation against Gulf nations—especially the UAE, which lacks Israel’s robust air defense.
• Senate Republicans reject a bill requiring congressional approval for further military action in Iran.
• Zelensky offers U.S. and Israel Ukrainian anti-drone expertise, contingent on a Russia ceasefire.
• Generational divide: Younger voters are overwhelmingly anti-war, prioritizing domestic concerns, especially economic challenges. Older voters more supportive of intervention.
• Polling data: 80%+ of Americans say it's "very important" to avoid another long-term foreign operation.

Notable Quotes

“There seems to be a generational divide… Younger voters, the low-propensity voters, tend to want to see more focus on domestic policy.”
—Jack Posobiec [27:22]

"We ask people… How important do you think it is that the US stay out of foreign wars in these conflicts, and particularly when it comes to Iran? It’s over 80% now."
—Rich Barris [41:29]

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3. Kristi Noem’s Farewell & DHS Achievements

[15:48–17:57, 21:39–22:25]

• Kristi Noem highlights DHS accomplishments: drug interdictions, arrests of terrorists, and cartel crackdowns.
• Emphasizes the administration’s focus on border security — 1.7 billion lethal drug doses intercepted, 1,500 known/suspected terrorists apprehended, 7,700 gang/cartel members removed.
• Commits to expanding hemispheric anti-cartel operations as Special Envoy.

Notable Quotes

“We've also taken 1.7 billion lethal doses of drugs off our streets… That means 1.7 billion people will still be with us because of the work that our agencies… have done.”
—Kristi Noem [15:48]

"We'll be working throughout the Western hemisphere with all the countries to make sure we’re biting the snake off, cutting its head off… fighting the cartels before they ever reach the United States…"
—Kristi Noem [16:50]

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4. 2026 Political Landscape & Administration Turnover

[22:54–24:19]

• Discussion of expected midterm staff turnover; parallels drawn to prior administrations.
• Stress that high-level personnel changes are normal and not unique to Trump’s administration.

“Some of these jobs will burn somebody out. They are not easy. You don’t get paid very much for them. They’re thankless… This is normal.”
—Rich Barris [22:54]

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5. Iran Operation: Political Risks & Public Support

[39:49–43:40]

• Intensifying political risk for President Trump if Iran operations stretch beyond four weeks.
• Growing confusion among public about the operation's objectives; high demand for a clear victory definition and presidential communication.
• Rich Barris underscores possible narrative damage—fears of being "dog-walked" by Israel, and importance of Trump asserting U.S. control and interests.

“A little over 60%… say no, they really don’t know what our objectives are here, which leaves a lot of confusion. And the longer this goes on, the more political risk there is.”
—Rich Barris [39:51]

“The smartest political move here would be to just declare victory, Jack, and walk away. This is a narrative that's starting to take root that I worry about for the President, which is there really is no U.S. interest here. You’re not going to convince the American public that there is.”
—Rich Barris [41:29]

“The American people… want to see that behind-the-desk-of-the-Oval-Office primetime address from the President. ‘This is what we’re doing. This is why it’s happening.’ My fellow Americans moment.”
—Jack Posobiec [42:13]

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6. Electoral Implications: MAGA, Turnout, and the “War Ticket”

[43:40–47:55]

• Shrinking core base for intervention; Rich Barris: MAGA is "purifying through subtraction," at the potential cost of broad support.
• Advocates focusing on energizing the base with victories similar to the "Venezuela model" rather than protracted wars.
• Emphasize winning to boost turnout, avoiding persuasion efforts targeting the political center.

“You're in the minority, you're in the gross minority, and you have to care about that… The Maduro thing, totally different scenario. Americans are looking for wins.”
—Rich Barris [43:40]

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7. Historical Parallels & the Monroe Doctrine: John Bachmann Interview

[50:17–59:27]

• John Bachmann discusses his new book, Turning Point, about Reagan’s Grenada intervention and its lasting impact.
• Reagan’s operation in Grenada cited as an example of a "third way" in foreign policy—quick, decisive action without nation-building.
• Parallels between Cold War and current Chinese expansion in the Caribbean; emphasis on the Monroe Doctrine’s relevance.
• Anecdotes: Grenada’s annual “Thanksgiving Day” for U.S. liberation, Michael Flynn’s heroics in Grenada as a young officer.
• Bachmann notes growing anti-communist sentiment among Cuban exiles in South Florida and speculation about the fall of the Cuban regime.

“Every time we see a communist country or a communist revolution, it is the same playbook. They divide their people internally, and then the foreign influence comes in… It works out the same way every time. The people are starving, the government is oppressive… You can vote your way into communism, but you have to shoot your way out of it.”
—John Bachmann [57:40]

“My favorite Ronald Reagan quote of all time is when he says, you know, freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction, and we gotta constantly fight these fights to remind people of what the real danger is.”
—John Bachmann [53:47]

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Memorable Quotes and Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|--------------|-------| | 08:37 | Jack Posobiec | “President Trump knows from past experience… appointing a senator is more likely to be confirmed by the United States Senate.” | | 14:22 | Rich Barris | “Find another utilization for her and get her out from underneath the line of fire… It was better and smarter to move her now.” | | 27:22 | Jack Posobiec | “There seems to be a generational divide… Younger voters… want to see more focus on domestic policy.” | | 39:51 | Rich Barris | “A little over 60%… say no, they really don’t know what our objectives are here, which leaves a lot of confusion.” | | 41:29 | Rich Barris | “Over 80%… say that it's very important we stay out of this thing.” | | 43:40 | Rich Barris | “You're in the minority, you're in the gross minority, and you have to care about that.” | | 53:47 | John Bachmann | “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction, and we gotta constantly fight these fights to remind people of what the real danger is.” | | 57:40 | John Bachmann | "You can vote your way into communism, but you have to shoot your way out of it." |

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Summary Table of Core Topics

| Topic | Key Insights/Arguments | Timestamps | |------------------------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------| | DHS Leadership Shakeup | Trump admin reshuffles: Mullin in, Noem to special envoy | 05:05–09:34, 14:22+ | | U.S.–Iran Conflict; Focus on Gulf States | Iran targets UAE; US public unsure of operation's purpose | 03:07–04:43, 39:49+ | | Generational Divide on Foreign Policy | Youth are overwhelmingly anti-intervention, focused on economy | 27:22–35:22 | | Administration Turnover and Media Narratives | Cabinet-level moves normal in U.S. admin cycles | 22:54–24:19 | | Electoral Implications of War | Long wars politically risky; energize base with victories | 43:40–47:23 | | Monroe Doctrine in 2026 | Rising Chinese influence mirrors past Soviet moves in Caribbean | 50:17–59:27 | | Reagan & Grenada—"Third Way" in Foreign Policy | Swift, decisive intervention without nation-building | 50:17–57:40 |

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Concluding Takeaways

• The 2026 U.S. administration reshuffle aims to shore up Trump’s position against midterm risks and projected Democratic attacks by reinforcing border security credentials and regional focus (Shield of the Americas).
• War fatigue is at an all-time high, especially among younger and economically burdened Americans—80%+ want the U.S. to avoid foreign wars, demanding a domestic focus.
• Clear, direct communication from Trump is considered crucial to maintain support amid foreign policy complexities.
• Historical lessons from the Monroe Doctrine and Reagan’s Grenada intervention are invoked as models for limiting U.S. entanglements, emphasizing rapid action and regional security without protracted nation-building—“declare victory and walk away.”
• Bipartisan skepticism continues to mount regarding the Iran operation, with shifting polling numbers threatening the administration's political standing as the midterms approach.
• Bachmann’s book and stories from Reagan’s era serve as both inspiration and cautionary tale for contemporary U.S. strategic decisions in its own hemisphere.

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End of summary

Transcript

[Jack Posobiec]

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New video of US Forces destroying what the Pentagon describes as an advanced Iranian warship. The US says 20 Iranian naval vessels have now been sunk.

[Kristi Noem]

Iran's threat to set ships ablaze in

[Jack Posobiec]

one of the world's busiest trade routes

[Kristi Noem]

is raising some concerns about the implications for the global economy. The Strait of Hormuz is a critical oil shipping route that links the Persian Gulf to the Gulf of Oman and and eventually the Arabian Sea.

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Overnight, the first charter flight leaving the Middle east carrying Americans back home to safety. As the race to get out of

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a half thousand US Citizens in Beirut.

[Jack Posobiec]

Some airlines are getting more used to the risk. This plane taking off through the smoke of an Israeli airstrike.

[John Bachmann]

The discharge is not approved overnight.

[Jack Posobiec]

Senate Republicans rejecting a bill to block further military action in Iran unless the President gets congressional approval first.

[Rich Barris]

The Constitution grants Congress the sole power to declare war.

[Jack Posobiec]

The power to declare war is ours. If we give it up, then we

[Kristi Noem]

are turning our back on the Constitution and our responsibility to the American people.

[Rich Barris]

Only one Republican Senator Rand Paul joining the majority of Democrats to back the resolution.

[Jack Posobiec]

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky says he's willing to help the US Israel and their Middle east allies defend against Iranian Shahid drones for a price. Russia has used those drones extensively against

[Rich Barris]

Ukraine since the start of the war.

[Jack Posobiec]

Zelensky says Ukraine is prepared to share what it has learned about stopping them if Russia agrees to a month long ceasefire. So far Moscow has rejected any ceasefire proposals.

[Rich Barris]

We'll do our best including with other countries of the international community in the

[Kristi Noem]

United Nations Security Council and the United Nations General assembly will do everything to

[Rich Barris]

create an atmosphere that will make this operation impossible.

[Jack Posobiec]

Are you afraid of a US invasion in your country?

[Rich Barris]

No, we are waiting for them.

[Jack Posobiec]

You are waiting for the US military to invade the ground troops? Yes, because we are confident that we can confront them and that would be a big disaster for them. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. We're here live real America's voice. Today is March 5, 2026. Anno Domini, President Trump anointing and appointing, I should say, Mark Wayne Mullen to be the new Secretary of Homeland Security, currently the Senator from Oklahoma. This of course, will potentially set up an appointment or and or special election there from Governor Stitt. Mark Wayne Mullen, having served President Trump, of course putting a tweet up now, Truth Social up saying that he is highly respected, that Kristi Noem has served us well and has had numerous spectacular results, including on the border and will be moving to be special envoy for the Shield of the Americas, our new security initiative in the Western Hemisphere. We're announcing on Saturday, tomorrow in Doral, Florida. I thank Christy for her service at Homeland and of course, Marco Rubio more than excited that he has not been given yet another position. Not sure if he can be both mentions how Mark Wayne Mullen has been serving for 10 years in the U.S. house of Representatives, three in the Senate. Mark Wayne has done a tremendous job representing the people of Oklahoma and says that he's an America first. He's the only Native American in the Senate. Mark Wayne Mullen, a fantastic advocate for incredible tribal communities. Mark Wayne will work tirelessly to keep our border secure, stop migrant crime, murderers and other criminals from illegally entering our country, end the scourge of illegal drugs and make America safe again. Mark Wayne will make a spectacular Secretary of Homeland Security. Thank you for attention to this matter. Of course, appointing a senator. President Trump knows from past experience that of course appointing a senator is more likely to be confirmed by the United States Senate. Remember, you need 50 plus one vote votes there. And of course, appointing a member from their own body is always going to be more helpful. Mark. Secretary Rubio, for example, received 99 votes during his confirmation process. So President Trump obviously looking to do that in Doral. It's that Summit of the Americas going on this weekend, security summit with today focusing on counter counter cartel operations. Speaking of military operations, Iran continues their operations and in, excuse me, the United States continues their operations in Iran, the war continues, the special military operation continues and Iran continues their strikes on the Gulf countries. And Israel, when you look at the UAE has faced the brunt of their attacks. And I believe we do have a chart from the Institute of the Study of War that's walking through this. So over a thousand strikes on UAE, just over 500 on Kuwait, then Israel, Bahrain, Qatar, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Oman really shows the amount of strikes on the UAE Talk showing the and if we could put a chart, put the map up here and actually show the retaliatory strikes here we can walk through this a little bit that they've really focused very heavily on Gulf nations rather than Israel. Most of Iran's retaliatory strikes as of now have targeted the United Arab Emirate Emirates, an American ally. And one of the reasons for this that I've been talking about is that Iran is focused on this asymmetric warfare because they know the UAE doesn't have the level of air defense air support that Israel does with the Iron Dome. And then of course the Forward Carrier Strike group. They're sitting off the coast of Haifa. So an opportunity for them to inflict economic pain, asymmetric warfare in the asymmetric space on America's allies in the Gulf, but also potentially drawing them into the conflict. More on this next as Human Events Daily continues here on Real America's Boys.

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[Rich Barris]

This was inevitable. So I mean there were really two choices here. She's been plagued by a lot of stuff, not only what was happening with ice, but you know, questions about contracts, Jack and, and bidding and recruitment. So there was really two choices. Find another utilization for her and get her out from underneath the line of fire or wait for Democrats to take aim and do their thing. It was better and smarter to move her now and get her out of there. Now. I don't know if everybody saw it, but the other day with the line of questioning with Kennedy, Thom Tillis is a blowhard who's not going to face the voters because he went against Trump too much. So he's going to tuck tail and run. But somebody like Kennedy having that exchange that he did with her really was a sign that, look, if Democrats take the House and, or the Senate coming in November, you just can't have baggage like that laying around. It was smart. It had to move her over, had to add to, she had to go.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah. And I understand she's speaking right now, although I don't believe she's actually discussing it. So we may cut to that on Ruler's voice, but I think we'll continue the interview on, on the stream here. I don't know if she's taking questions at all actually. Guys, let's tell you what, let's, let's dip into it for a second. Let's see if she's, let's see if she's discussing the situation. Can we do that, guys?

[Kristi Noem]

With, We've also taken 1.7 billion lethal doses of drugs off our streets and stopped them from coming into the United states. That means 1.7 billion people will still be with us because of the work that our agencies and our work has done. Our Coast Guard is an important assets in the Department of Homeland Security and they've worked with us and maybe have worked with some of you in the room as well to help interdict those drugs and stop them from coming into our country. You know, President Trump has been working hard to make sure that he's delivering on what he promised the American people, and that's to make America safe again. In doing so, we have gone out and found over 1500 known and suspected terrorists that were let into this country over the open border invasion that we saw during the last administration. Administration. Those 1500 individuals who are already on our known and suspected terrorist watch list have been brought to justice and removed. We know there's many more, but we're going to still continue to look for them, to find them, and to do all that we can to make sure that this country is safe. Beyond that, we've also arrested and removed over 7700 gang members, TDA members, Ms. 13 Sinaloa cartel. The president is extremely focused on fighting cartels and recognize them as a foreign terrorist organization so that we could have new authorities to go after them. And we'll be working throughout the Western hemisphere with all the countries to make sure that we're biting the snake off, cutting its head off with fighting the cartels before they ever reach the United States, stopping the drug flow, stopping the guns and ammunition from getting here and hurting our families and the homeland. We'll continue to work together to make sure that we have the opportunity to do that to everybody in the room that puts on a uniform, that wears a badge, that steps out every single day and does something that so few others do. Put your life on the line for your brothers and your sisters and your families, and you do it in your home community. I want to say thank you. I also want to let you.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right, well, that was Kristi Noem. She's speaking there at the Summit of the Americas down at Trump Doral. Rich Barrister, want to bring you back in here. So, you know, she's. She's speaking this. What do you think this looks like? Does this look like turmoil within the White House? I'm sure that's how the mainstream media is going to. To highlight it. What would you say?

[Rich Barris]

I think this was smart by the President. This was a smart move. He had to do it. She was rattling off a lot of accomplishments right there. Let me just say this, Jack. You know, saying too much. There was a lot of good work done at the Department of Homeland Security. There was. Let's not forget what the border looked like when Donald Trump into office. We were being invaded. We were being invaded. And God knows who's in this country right now as the country engages in a conflict with Iran. God knows who came across the border when Joe Biden was president. So there was a lot of. And look, she has the right to rattle off those accomplishments and the President has a right to tout those accomplishments. But just let it be, you know, let it serve as a bit of a warning going forward to other people. Put the movement first. Don't let problems that you have overshadow the great accomplishments that this president has made. Put the movement first. The media will spin it that way. And the President did, did the right thing here, the smart thing, by doing it now, getting out in front of it, and let's move on.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, I think that's, that's what the President is certainly doing here. The president getting ahead of anything.

[John Bachmann]

No.

[Jack Posobiec]

Still going to be in the administration, though. So he's not, you know, the soft landing over as the special envoy. So someone that he's not putting out, of course, with Markway Mullen, that will set up either. You know, that's a safe seat. So I don't think there's going to be any question over whether or not that would really challenge or threaten the balance in the Senate, although it could, of course, lead to a special election or a. Have to look at where he's at in terms of his, in terms of which class he's in in the Senate as to whether or not he's up again and then. Or potentially just a, Just an appointment by Governor Stitt.

[Rich Barris]

Yeah, I mean, it is an opportunity. I know sometimes he's coming to the conflict with, you know, the, the core of maga, but for the most part, Mark Wayne Mullen is solid. Right. And the only question is whether or not there are. Look, even in some of the reddest states out there, guys, there are a lot of rhinos. So it's just something to keep an eye on when, when the time comes. But this is, this is a good move. He's the right guy, I think, on this issue. I don't think MAGA will have any problem with him whatsoever. Not yet. I don't anticipate that anyway.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, I don't think so. Certainly not in this capacity. I think that's actually, that's actually a great appointment for him. Really, really something that I would be supportive of. I'm not, you know, I'm not someone who had any issues with Kristi Noem either, as Secretary of Homeland Security. I think she's done an admirable job. I think she's always. And what I'll say about this is. What I always appreciated from Secretary Noem is that she's. She's always stood up from ice, actually. For ice, actually, that she is taking questions. So let's. Let's dip into that. Let's dip into that again.

[Rich Barris]

My name is Chris Galligan. I'm the vice president of San Francisco Police Officers Association. First of all, I just want to say thank you for recognizing major cities and all of our police unions here across the nation.

[Jack Posobiec]

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[Rich Barris]

My question. Local officers have increasingly been on the front lines of homeland security security, yet we are still funded and staffed like a city responsibility, not a national one. How will DHS ensure local agencies aren't carrying federal priorities on local budgets and with local staffing?

[Kristi Noem]

So you maybe have some challenges in San Francisco just because of your state laws and local laws. That mean. Although you've got a mayor that works with us very well, he probably doesn't want me to talk about it a lot, actually. But he has been cooperative, and we have great conversations with and talk quite often and many times in doing law enforcement in your city. If the federal task force is coming in, you know, it's more preferable for the FBI to lead and the Department of Homeland Security to come in and supportive rules, which is what we've done. And that works very well in your city. Thank you for your focus there, too. I think the city is seeing some dramatic improvements under this leadership. When you talk about funding, we have tied a lot of our funding that we have for enforcement this year and prioritized over 1.5 billion.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right, so we're back. So she. Christine, they're taking questions regarding dhs, not necessarily about any of the changes from dhs, just current operations. I'll go back to Rich, you know, just a minute and a half before we leave, because I do want to get into sort of some of the talk about Iran and how that's coming down. But Rich, as the president, is going into this midterm year. Look, this is the time of year where we would expect to see some staff turnover. Isn't it the time in a term? I should say it is, actually.

[Rich Barris]

I mean, we're gonna. We're gonna be coming up very soon on some jobs. I know there's a lot of talk about Dan Bongino, right? I mean, Dan Bongino's role as well. They don't last that long in those roles. This is not just unique to a Trump administration. We're at that point, even after the midterms, particularly, a lot of people will be discussing changes, turnovers, leaving. Now, you won't hear a lot of that talk out in the open. But after the midterms, there will be change. I mean, this is the nature of things. I mean, the media makes a big deal about it when it's a Republican president and they love to do it to Donald Trump. But if you go back and look at the Obama years, same thing. The Biden years, same thing. There's guys, some of these jobs will burn somebody out. They are not easy. You don't get paid very much for them. You, they're thankless. You're constantly being criticized. They're very long days, very long hours. So this is normal. We're getting to that point.

[Jack Posobiec]

You're exactly right. Yeah, I think we're getting to that point. You know, this isn't, this isn't something really that again, as you say, if this were the Biden administration, nobody would be talking about it. Jack was so big. Rich Barris Back Human Events Daily.

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You do, buddy, I'm here.

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Do we have you? Okay, great. I was just talking about how. Yeah, I hope you're not driving off the interstate there. I, I was talking about how we have this generational divide that we're seeing when it comes to a lot of these issues, and particularly when it comes to the operation in Iran, but really just foreign policy in general where, where the younger voters, the low prop voters tend to, to want to see more of that focus on domestic policy. You've been out in the field, you're working on a poll. Tell us what you're seeing out there.

[Rich Barris]

Yeah, this is something, you know, before the war for six months and we have the White House focus tracker on big data poll. People should go and check it out. And you'll see that young people driving this predominantly under 50 millennials, generation Z, right. They, they want a government that focuses on them and focuses on their needs at home. They have no appetite for war. Even millennials, Jack, of which, you know, I'm on the line of generation X millennial, you know, we're the 911 generation. They don't want it. I mean, they've been, they live through this already and they're over it. So this idea that there's going to be more appetite as time goes on is just incorrect because they had been kind of seeing this happen in, you know, over the last six months or so. They, they kind of expected it and they were doing everything in their power to tell their, their leaders that, that this is not what they wanted and it happened field right now. And this is something I want to throw out. I've been warning people who really do support Israel, you have a huge age signal on this and there's not a lot of sympathy for Israel out there right now. And this, they're going to be fair or unfair. I'm not arguing either one. Either way, fair or unfair, they are going to be blamed by these younger voters for their government not focusing on their needs. We ask people whether or not they think Israel has too much focus, too much influence on U.S. foreign policy. And I mean, Jack, it's 60%. It's 60%. And it's driven largely by people who are under 50. You know, if you're older, if you're the boomer, baby boomer generation, you know, you see the world dramatically different than how younger voters see the world. People who are younger than baby boomers see the world they simply can't afford. You know, while boomers may think it's not that big of a deal, younger voters think I simply can't afford a government that isn't focused on the domestic agenda anymore. It's a very different worldview. And it's a very, it's just about priority, Jack. It's about priorities.

[Jack Posobiec]

And this is something that we've seen on and on Again, I know that the guys over on the Charlie Kirk show earlier today had a couple of turning point students on who came up from different universities and that's exactly what they were saying. That's, you know, this isn't something that we are sort of just you know, just spitballing here. I hear it when I go and talk to college students, the turning point students. I know you see it when you're talking to people. I get it when I see the emails coming in. Especially the under 30 crowd. Man, it's especially under 30 crowd.

[Rich Barris]

I mean look Jack, it's. We live in different economic realities, right? They have a different, a different inheritance than prior generations before. They're inheriting a huge debt. They're inheriting much, much more difficulty in doing something like buying your first home. Even myself, Jack, I mean I have no problem sharing this. It took me until I was 38 years old to build my own house, you know, so it. Why that's just the world we lived in. We had one crisis after the other, one war after the other. The economy is just not the same as it was for older gener. And those students, what did they, what did they talk about in that interview? I mean what did she say? Affordability overall. But housing, Right. Gas prices? I can't buy a vehicle. This is not something you want to hear from people and. Or I would say this is not what you have the environment you want to have at home. If you're trying to build support for a foreign entanglement or foreign conflict, it's about priority. They don't have the luxury of caring about freedom for the Iranians when they're worried about the future of their freedom at home. It's that simple. And you're never going to convince them with any amount of, you know what? We normally bring the war drum beaters.

[Jack Posobiec]

Quick break. Right back, we're getting some emails in

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All right, Jack. Back live, Human Events Daily. We're on with Rich Barris. So, Rich, I want to go into some of the data that you're pulling together regarding the Iran operation that we've, we've heard from the president and our own reporting that four weeks was the time frame initially that was being looked at. We're now also hearing some reports from Politico. Again, not official, but, but, you know, potentially looking at 100 days of operations, some other data points that are coming out out there. Do you think that this is something that extends further, if we're talking this goes beyond one, the one month mark through the summer.

[Rich Barris]

All right. I mean, are you asking whether or not that, you know, increases the political risks of it? I mean, again, one of the questions we're asking. Yeah, one of the questions we're asking, Jack, and this is a problem the administration is going to have, they have to address, which is do you think that the administration, the president laid out clearly what the goals were and what the, you know, what a success look like in these operations? And a little over 60% as well view that say no, they really don't know what the, what, you know, what our objectives are here, which leaves a lot of confusion. And the longer this goes on, the more political risk there is. We ask a question which is interesting because it tells us where people, again, their priorities are. How important do you think it is that the US Stay out of foreign wars in these conflicts and particularly when it comes to Iran? It's over 80% now when we first started asking and it looked like we were probably going to launch strikes against Iran in some capacity. It was about 70% and it was the same as what we got as far as opposition to the conflict. It's now above 80 with people who say that it's very important that we stay out of this thing like that. And a long term conflict is what they, that's what they're talking about with very important, surpassing somewhat important, which tells you that the intensity is against long term operations. So, I mean, without a doubt, the smarter, the smartest political move here would be to just declare victory, Jack, and walk away. This is a narrative that's starting to take root that I worry about for the President, which is there really is no U.S. interest here. You're not going to convince the American public that there is. And I don't want to see him as viewed as being dog walked into this thing by, you know, by Israel, by the prime Minister of Israel. And I really would and honestly I'd, I'd like to see the president assert, you know, basically make a public showing that he is in fact the one in control here. Because this is something the American public, they just don't, Jack. They just don't see the vital interest here. They don't, they're not going to be duped into claims that they had ICBMs that are going to hit us. It's just, it's ludicrous to them and it's just too tall of an order to get them to believe this.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, and Rich, here's, here's something that I've, I've said from the start is that the American people want to hear from their president. The American people, I think, want to see that behind the desk of the Oval Office primetime address from the President. This is what we're doing. This is what's going on. This is why it's happening. My fellow Americans moment. And President Trump is always his best spokesman. This is what we saw at the State of the Union, which was a tour de force just last week, where you notice, by the way, the primary focus was on those domestic issues with the exception, by the way, of the Venezuela raid. And the Venezuela rate in that model was seen as largely successful. The president took a victory lap on that. He had the Medal of Honor ceremony related to it. So again, this was something that was very and highly successful, the Venezuela model. That's something that I think the people of the United States are waiting for. Now, what I would say though, Rich, is that, look, we're receiving some emails right now and I've I've got people, you know, that are on both sides of this, people who say, I'm behind this. I think we need to be on this. This is this important to do now. So you do see support from, and we've seen the polling support from core Republicans on this and core conservatives. So what would you say to those folks who say, look, I'm a core conservative, I'm a three time Trump voter, I'm for this. What's the problem?

[Rich Barris]

I would say you're in the minority, you're in the gross minority, and you have to, you have to care about that. The fact of the matter is MAGA is shrinking. We're seeing a little bit of what I'm calling, I don't know how else to call it, you know, purification through subtraction. So it's great that you have 98, 95 of support from that 30%. But it was 45, 13 months ago and you had 93 support among 45. 93among 45 is greater than 98among 30. So, I mean, you, it does matter, you know, whether something's popular or not does matter. The Maduro thing, totally different scenario. I mean, honestly, Jack, Americans are looking for wins, you know, and they may not even know how to articulate that, but you know, we killed the Ayatollah and we're out, you know, mission accomplished. Let them figure it out. Would be a win to the American public and that would be okay. What wouldn't is giving the opposition the ammunition that you ran as the no new wars president, especially in the Middle east, for regime change. And yet that increasingly is the suspicion that that is the objective in which is regime change. And you said something before I think is really important, that the President is his best spokesman. Without a doubt that is true. I mean, look what happened when they tried to, you know, give an interview to New York Post, I mean, the New York Times and the Washington Post. That had to be cleaned up. Rubio comes out attempting to clean it up. He steps on, you know, steps on himself and chokes down his own tongue. Then Mike Johnson comes out 30 minutes later after they try to clean up Rubio, and he makes the same mistake. Both of them, including the news reports, you know, on top of the news reports, giving the people the impression that they were goaded into doing this by Israel, like forced into doing this by Israel. The President has got to come out and don't tell anybody any tales about ICBMs that can hit Los Angeles and just tell them, look, he was a bad Guy, I got rid of him. End of story. We're coming back after that. If he did that, he could, you know, we could really turn this thing around here. But the longer it goes on, Jack, without a doubt, it's not really even debatable. The longer it goes on. I would tell this to that 30%. The longer it goes on, the more in the wilderness you're going to find yourself. And we're getting way too close to a midterm election. You know, I'd remind everybody that the real threat is at home, you know, as far as winning elections. And I mean, it wasn't that long ago that they were rounding people up and putting people in jail, including the president. That really needs to start. You know, people get all hyped with war and, you know, we all start, you know, having that war high, but once that high comes down and you crash, you gotta, you better make sure you don't find yourself in a really bad spot.

[Jack Posobiec]

Which is exactly, that's right. Exactly where, you know, we see the situation with the, with gas prices going up, the price of oil, you know, with going up, the price of a barrel of oil going up, hitting gas prices that's going up around the nation. There's no question we've seen that spike just in the last couple of days. That's something the administration is going to want to wrap their hands around before anybody starts early voting in any of these key states, any of the states that have a Senate race on them. But at the same time, Rich, you know, let's say that we do actually just, just devil's advocate, let's say that things go well and he gets. Does actually achieve a real positive outcome. Could that have a better outlook when it comes to midterms because of the, the spoils of war?

[Rich Barris]

Yeah. I think that at the very least it'll limit what I, you know, what, what people are estimating to be the damage. You're always going to have those people who are going to complain that he said no new wars, and yet here we are. I mean, you're going to have those people. You and I had a conversation, right. A lot of those people are right. They're already kind of gone. Right. So a midterm is a turnout. It's a turnout operation. I mean, the, the right is probably not going to win the middle, but they can take heart in the fact that they still are much bigger than the left.

[Jack Posobiec]

That.

[Rich Barris]

That is true. They are. I'm not talking about party identification. I'm talking about the number of people in the United States who agree with the right wing platform is larger than the number of people who agree with the left wing. And if you can motivate them by winning, winning, you know, getting them excited, that's, that's what you have to do. This is what Democrats did when they engaged in some rather unpopular agenda items under Obama. They didn't even bother to win the middle Jack. They just juiced their base with what they viewed to be wins. And that saved them time and time again, especially Barack Obama himself. So that is, that has got to be the strategy here going into 26, because it would be unwise to try to rely on persuading the middle back. Just get the president's base fired up. Make sure they understand what is at stake, which is that, you know, the, the, the more seats Democrats win, the more likely it is that he could be removed. I mean, this is a, this is a reality. They're not going to stop. It's only been. Guys, it wasn't that long when they were breaking every law in the book to try to remove them from the ballot. Right. To prevent them from running from president for president. If you think that Democratic Party just changed or disappeared overnight, no, we remember all of it.

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[Rich Barris]

Yeah.

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[John Bachmann]

It's great to see you, Jack. Thanks for having me.

[Jack Posobiec]

So tell us about the new book, Turning Point. You know, a name that I certainly am familiar with and certainly enjoy. Tell us why. Why write a new book about Reagan, Grenada, the Cold War, which is interesting because that's a piece of the Cold War that doesn't really get talked about that much.

[John Bachmann]

No, it doesn't get talked about because it happened within days of the U.S. marine barracks bombing in Beirut, Lebanon, which dominated news cycle back then. And you know, it's, it's fascinating for me now. I started this book four years ago and it just came out a couple weeks ago. And we have Operation Urgent Fury back then. That was the liberation of Grenada. And we have Operation Epic Fury right now. But I think, Jack, what the one of the reasons why I wanted to write this book is really to kind of reintroduce Ronald Reagan to a new generation of people, particularly with this story. Because I think the lesson that we're often taught is that there are only one of two options when it comes to military conflicts. There's the isolationist wing of the Republican Party who doesn't think we should be getting involved in these types of things. And then there's the other rhino neocon aspect of the Republican Party that, you know, has no problem with forever wars. But what we learned from Reagan's action in Grenada is there is a third way. We sent in the military. We liberated a country from a brutal Marxist regime and we didn't stick around for the same type of regime change nation building exercises that we saw during the both Gulf wars. So Ronald Reagan knew the consequences. There were 600American medical students on the island. There was a communist coup that took place. I used moderate dictator. Maurice Bishop was assassinated by a more radical militant Marxist named Bernard Coward. And that's what put these Americans in danger. Ronald Reagan also saw the opportunity that this represented. You could liberate this place, you could save Americans, you could send a message as well to our adversaries that we were not going to tolerate communism in the Western hemisphere. The other parallel between this and what we're seeing today is the Monroe Doctrine. Ronald Reagan believed in it and we see that with Donald Trump as well.

[Jack Posobiec]

You see that there. So, you know, this is a great example of something that I've gone around talking about Chinese influence, which is the new influence in the Caribbean. And that's exactly what Ronald Reagan understood with grenada back in 1983. The idea that we can't have these great powers, we can't have in the time it was the Soviet Union, you know, a Soviet aligned actor getting in there that we can't have them in our backyard, we can't allow them this toehold. And why it makes sense from America's strategic interest to actually Emphasize more influence in our own Caribbean. I mean, that should be like a. An American pond, basically.

[John Bachmann]

It's so true and it's been so overlooked throughout our entire lifetimes. And it's so refreshing now to see someone like Marco Rubio as a Secretary of State who understands this. Obviously, Pete Hegseth understands it now as well, much like Ronald Reagan's administration understood the importance of it back then. And you're right, Jack. Back then, it was the Soviets. Today, it is the Chinese. And they are investing and millions of dollars in Grenada in particular. They're building a new cricket stadium. They are funded by the Chinese. It's something we got to continue to pay attention to. My favorite Ronald Reagan quote of all time is when he says, you know, freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction, and we got to constantly fight these fights to remind people of what the real danger is.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's exactly right. One of my favorite stories, by the way, the operation of Grenada. A young second lieutenant in the United States army who was a platoon leader serving with the 82nd Airborne, was actually Second Lieutenant Michael Flynn, who. Who later became General Flynn, who actually. Not only did he deploy to Grenada as a platoon leader, but also performed a notable rescue, jumped off a cliff, saved two stranded US Soldiers in rough waters. I mean, this. It's. There's so many origin stories of the people that we talk about, you know, every single day here that go all the way back to things like this.

[John Bachmann]

Yeah. The heroic efforts of the 82nd Airborne. I didn't get a chance to interview General Flynn. I would have loved to talk to him about this, and hopefully we'll get to someday. I do tell the story of a young captain named Michael Ritz, who was. Who was shot and killed. I mean, we lost 19 service members over the course of four days, including four Navy SEALs. The combat was very real. And it's important to remind people of the sacrifices that were made in Grenada as well. And to this day, Jack, the Grenadian people celebrate October 25th as their Thanksgiving Day, which is their Thanksgiving to the United States for liberating them from a Marxist dictatorship.

[Rich Barris]

I see.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's actually amazing, this idea that people. Because whenever you talk to someone who served, or, excuse me, I should say, who suffered under a communist dictatorship, whether it's in Grenada, whether it's Soviet Union, wherever it is, they'll tell you immediately how terrible it was. They'll tell you how awful it was. And then you go to some Columbia college campus in the Ivy League, and they'll sit there and say, well, that wasn't real communism, or that person doesn't know what they're talking about. This is gonna work in theory. When the Berlin Wall went up, pretty, as people always say, I know it's cliched, but people were only crossing that thing one way. Nobody's trying to break into the East, Right?

[John Bachmann]

Right. They don't put the walls to keep people from pouring into the communist parts. Think about the Berlin Wall as well. And that was really the final straw for Ronald Reagan, because the Communists, the Marxists on Grenada, had threatened to shoot the American students if they disobeyed a curfew they put in place. And I also tell the story of the communist revolution in Nicaragua as a precursor to this one, because I think we lost. It was a total of 12 countries fell to either socialist or Marxist regimes during Jimmy Carter. And that didn't stop until Ronald Reagan was elected. And it really started with Grenada. And then we started to see the dominoes fall in these Eastern bloc countries. Then they started to reform. And then we saw ultimately the Berlin Wall come down in the end of the Cold War, right at the end of Ronald Reagan's presidency and the beginning of George H.W. bush's presidency.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, that's incredible. So what you're doing, so you're going through the Sandinistas, you go through all of the history of communism in the Caribbean. And that gives people. What I think is great about this book actually, is it gives people a primer into the Don Row doctrine. So, yes, it's the 1980s, but it actually can help you understand current events, because you're going around the Horn, you're saying, this is what happened in Nicaragua, this is what happened in Grenada. Then boom, just, what, 20 or so years after that, we got, what, the. The Communist revolution, or I should say the Chavez takeover in Venezuela. So that's where communism, of course, you know, emanating from Cuba. That's where that came out. So this has been the push and pull of the United States, Western influence and Communist influence that's going on South America, Latin America and the Caribbean, really, for since the dawn of the Cold War back in the 1950s. So it gives you an understanding of how we got here and what the past is, what the prologue is for a lot of people, as you say, who didn't understand exactly what Reagan was up to down in South America, or they get these, you know, really ridiculous. I've seen some of these TikTok videos where Zoomers talk about Reagan like he was just some imperialist that's not what he was about at all.

[John Bachmann]

No, he was not. He knew exactly what he wanted to do. His main goal was really nuclear non proliferation. That's what he ultimately wanted to accomplish. But in order to, to do that, he had to end the Cold War and really put the Soviets in a position where they had to play ball. And Grenada was just part of that. And Jack, you made, you make a great point. And something I hope the readers get across in this book is every time we see a communist country or a communist revolution, it is the same playbook. They divide their people internally and then the foreign influence comes in from the dominant communist power in the world to reform these countries into a Marxist or socialist or communist government. And it works out the same way every time. The people are starving, the government is oppressive, and you know, like they say, Jack, you can vote your way into communism, but you have to shoot your way out of it.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's exactly true. Last question, John. President Trump earlier today talked about Cuba. He said that we could see the fall of the communist regime in Cuba. You just wrote the book Focus on Grenada. What do you think?

[John Bachmann]

I think it's entirely possible. I think the challenge there versus Venezuela is that you've had communism so deeply entrenched into Cuba. It was interesting to see the Cuban president, Miguel Diaz Canal this week say they need to drastically reform their economic system. It might be a little bit too late for that. But the Cuban people, Jack, I live in South Florida and as you know, the Cuban people are begging President Trump to get involved. They've seen what happens in Venezuela. They see what's happening in Iran right now, and they desperately want Cuba to be next. Many of them want to return to their homeland. And the only way to do that is to make sure there's a democratic republic or some sort of free actual government in Cuba, something they haven't experienced since the early 1960s.

[Jack Posobiec]

Amen to that is John Bachmann. The book is Turning Point How Reagan Liberated Grenada. John, thanks so much for joining us here. Human events. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay short.