Human Events with Jack Posobiec, March 6th, 2026

Summary

Human Events with Jack Posobiec — March 6, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode of Human Events, hosted by Jack Posobiec and joined by guest analyst Mike Benz (Foundation for Freedom Online), dives into the unfolding crisis in Iran, the prospects and pitfalls of regime change, the evolving U.S. strategy, and the broader geopolitical and domestic impacts of a new Middle Eastern war. The discussion is timely and urgent, presented with the characteristic directness and skepticism toward mainstream narratives for which the show is known.

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Main Themes and Purpose

• U.S. and Allied Intervention in Iran: In-depth analysis of the recent escalations and strikes against Iran by the U.S. and Israel, with the goal of toppling the Islamic Republic and re-shaping regional dynamics.
• Historical Parallels and Regime Change: Comparison to past regime change efforts (notably Operation Ajax), exploring why regime change in Iran may be both tempting and perilous.
• Gulf States and Global Reactions: Discussion of reactions from Gulf States, global economic implications, and the fragility of alliances in a time of military conflict.
• Prospects for Peace, Occupation, and "Mean Reversion": Examination of the challenges in stabilizing Iran post-regime-change and the probable outcome of continued instability or "reversion" to revolutionary rule.
• Audience Engagement: Jack Posobiec fields listener mail and social media feedback on the surrender terms demanded of Iran and the likelihood of U.S. boots on the ground.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Stage: Unfolding Conflict and Regime Change Goals

Timestamps:
[04:54]–[08:47]

• Jack summarizes President Trump's calls for Iran's "unconditional surrender" and regime change.
• Reference to recent, coordinated U.S. and Israeli strikes on military and economic targets within Iran, with Iranian retaliatory actions extending to U.S. bases in the Gulf.
• Noteworthy mention of Israeli F-35s allegedly achieving their first air-to-air combat kill over Tehran ([07:38]).

Quote Highlight

"President Trump now this morning calling for unconditional surrender of Iran's forces ... not only full regime change, but a new leader of Iran to make with a total change of the Islamic Republic."
— Jack Posobiec [04:54]

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2. Comparing Iran to Previous Regime Change Operations

Timestamps:
[13:44]–[18:29]

• Jack and Mike Benz contextualize the current crisis with a historical overview, especially Operation Ajax (1953) and the lasting impact of CIA/MI6 involvement.
• Mike Benz draws a stark picture: Iran's population is "95% Shia," not conducive to a pro-U.S. secular regime. Any minority government would need sustained external enforcement, provoking endless cycles of resistance.

Quote Highlight

"Even in the best case scenario of a regime change, you are still talking about decades or centuries of internal meddling and suppression… unless you basically try to eradicate an entire religion of a quarter billion people."
— Mike Benz [17:40]

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3. Why "Now"? The Strategic Calculus

Timestamps:
[18:29]–[21:26]

• Jack and Mike outline why the U.S. and Israel are choosing this moment: Iranian allies (Syria, Hamas, Hezbollah) have been decimated; Russia is distracted by Ukraine.
• According to Benz, this is less about imminent threat, "more about imminent opportunity."

Quote Highlight

"It wasn't done because there was an imminent threat... It was done because there was an imminent opportunity."
— Mike Benz [19:20]

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4. The Brutal Reality of Regime Change and Occupation

Timestamps:
[21:26]–[26:49]

• The conversation grows sober: the IRGC's violent suppression of recent protests, likely need for a "secret intelligence state" if a regime change government is installed.
• Benz repeatedly invokes the concept of "mean reversion," predicting that without indefinite U.S. support, a pro-U.S. regime will always be vulnerable to reversal.

Quote Highlight

"You're going to need everything that the SAVAK was famous for in terms of having this secret intelligence state that is constantly going around murdering challengers... Even after you spend tens or hundreds of billions of dollars waging the kinetic war, you will need tens or hundreds of billions in USAID, foreign internal defense, and security... every year until the end of time."
— Mike Benz [28:30]

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5. Economic and Regional Ripples — The Gulf States' Dilemma

Timestamps:
[32:09]–[41:33]

• Jack brings in concerns of economic stability, focusing on Gulf nations (Qatar, UAE, Bahrain, Saudi, Oman, Kuwait) and their unease at a destabilized Iran and war in the region.
• Analysis of the risk to "party life" and investment in places like Dubai as missile attacks sow uncertainty.
• Mike warns that Dubai and other Gulf states, although not under immediate kinetic threat, may be targets for future Iranian actions with symbolic and economic impact.

Quote Highlight

"Every time you see a missile flying overhead... they're directly striking into that reputational investment... Dubai has positioned itself as sort of the Las Vegas of the Middle East, and rapidly, that reputation is going to be leaving."
— Jack Posobiec [36:48]

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6. Boots on the Ground? U.S. Public and Political Calculus

Timestamps:
[41:33]–[52:08]

• Jack and Mike return to the question of occupation: Will the U.S. put boots on the ground?
• Trump’s latest statement: deploying ground troops would be “a waste of time,” but he does not categorically rule it out ([43:13]).
• Audience emails and live chat reflect widespread skepticism about the feasibility and morality of regime change by force. Some comment on historical analogies (Japan 1945, Afghanistan, Iraq), others question American credibility.

Quote Highlight

"I don't think that we'll see American boots on the ground. I personally just don't think we're going to see it... I think that what you're going to see is something more similar to the Venezuela option..."
— Jack Posobiec [49:22]

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7. Wider Lessons and Anxieties

• Echoes of skepticism about whether the U.S. can "pick a winner" in Iran if assassinations of potential leaders are ongoing (by Israel or others).
• Listener commentary: Ongoing distrust in nation-building projects, fears that “mean reversion” and chaos will result, and doubts about any “unconditional surrender.”

Notable Audience Quote

“Will Iran agree to President Trump's unconditional surrender terms?... It was no before you typed the question... It was no approximately 3,000 years into Iran's existence.”
— Listener email [45:30]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “What we have here is basically a minority that we've been supporting, and that minority will not be able to rule without a permanent stability apparatus installed.”
  – Mike Benz [17:27]

• “If there were a time to do this, this would actually be the moment.”
  – Jack Posobiec [19:08]

• “As you say, revert back to mean. And the mean being that the Middle East is a hot area, it's a place of war, and it's a place where wars constantly break out.”
  – Jack Posobiec [36:48]

• “No one knows... I think that all the Gulf states learned about the attacks at the same time we did, which is unusual...”
  – Mike Benz [35:10]

• “Bring it on. So that we're waiting for them.”
  – Mike Benz, on Iran’s response to talk of U.S. boots on the ground [40:39]

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Important Timestamps

• [04:54] — Trump’s call for “unconditional surrender” and regime change in Iran.
• [07:38] — First confirmed Israeli F-35 air-to-air kill in combat over Tehran.
• [13:44]–[18:29] — Analysis of Operation Ajax, regime change history, and the Shiite majority dynamic.
• [21:26]–[26:49] — "Mean reversion," suppression, and the bleak prospects of establishing a pro-U.S. government.
• [32:09]–[41:33] — Gulf nations' economic priorities, Dubai's vulnerability, and regional fallout.
• [43:13]–[52:08] — Audience reactions to “unconditional surrender,” killing of prospective Iranian leaders, U.S. troop deployment debate.

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Episode Takeaways

• The present crisis is portrayed less as a “war of necessity” and more as "war of opportunity" built on Iranian regional weakness.
• Both host and guest are profoundly skeptical that a sustainable, peaceful transition away from the Islamic Republic can be orchestrated without endless intervention and suppression.
• Gulf states stand to lose the most in terms of economic prosperity and stability, complicating the U.S./Israel strategy.
• Trump’s rhetoric and global perceptions of American reliability and success in regime change are hotly debated among listeners.
• The tone is urgent, circumspect, and deeply critical of Washington’s expectations, warning about the likelihood of another protracted quagmire.

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For New Listeners

This episode encapsulates the "Human Events" style: forthright, combative, and deeply informed by historical analogies, with a focus on the unforeseen consequences and limits of American military power. If you want a skeptical, realist take on America’s latest Middle East adventure, this is essential listening—or reading.

Transcript

[Jack Posobiec]

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Sources tell CBS News the U.S. military used Claude for its attack on Iran over the weekend. Now, the Pentagon's ongoing use of Anthropic's AI model comes despite a falling out with the company over its refusal to grant the military unrestricted access to the technology. Now, hours after the Trump administration ditched Anthropic over the dispute, OpenAI swooped in and struck its own deal with the Pentagon. Now, the details of that agreement appear to be changing. After facing backlash, CEO Sam Altman says he's working with the government to, quote, make some additions.

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[Mike Benz]

Kurdish dissident groups based in Iraq are preparing to potentially join the ongoing fight against Iran. This is according to the Associated Press. A Kurdish official told the news agency some of their forces have moved near the Iranian border and are on standby. Should Iranian and Iraqi Kurdish groups become involved in the war, it would mark the first entry of a significant ground force.

[News Reporter]

Officials say executives from defense contractors are set to visit the White House. They say the gathering is to talk about ramping up production as the war continues.

[Mike Benz]

President Trump says no deal with Iran short of what he calls an unconditional

[News Reporter]

surrender, there will be no deal with Iran except unconditional surrender. After that and the selection of a great and acceptable leader, we and many of our wonderful and brave allies and partners will work tirelessly to bring Iran back from the brink of destruction. This just coming in here from Truth Social, as we did hear President Trump saying he wants to have a say in who the next leader will be and that Khamenei son is an unacceptable pick.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right. And ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events daily. Today is March 6, 2026 Anno Domini. President Trump now this morning calling for unconditional surrender of Iran's forces. Iran's regime, of course, calling for not only full regime change, but a new leader of Iran to make with a total change of the Islamic Republic. President Trump, of course, focus on changing this also talked about the potential for looking at Cuba for a new operation, potentially a new deal, a new regime change or a new situation there opening up and re establishing diplomatic ties, however with Venezuela. On the same day also we've seen reports about the reestablishment of US to Venezuela, direct flights from Florida. So, you know, really seeing a model with Venezuela that were very quickly we saw the Operation Maduro which just a

[Mike Benz]

couple of weeks ago now to the

[Jack Posobiec]

resumption of diplomatic ties. Could this be a model for Iran? Could this be a setup whereby in

[Mike Benz]

the United States is able to see

[Jack Posobiec]

with a new leader, new leadership in

[Mike Benz]

Iran an ability to have these relations,

[Jack Posobiec]

these tensions, these operations lead to a better place not only for the United

[Mike Benz]

States, but for also the people of

[Jack Posobiec]

Iran and the world. What have we also seen since then? Look, Iran has struck the US base in Kuwait. We saw fires taking place over there. Patriot systems tankers. Iran also of course losing their Iranian drone carrier as the US attacks on tankers also heat up. So we're seeing both sides target the economic situation, both looking to impose those economic financial hardships on each other. Multiple explosions outside of Shiraz where an Iranian army ammunition depot near Bushir was hit. Of course, Bushir is also the site

[Mike Benz]

of Iran's nuclear power plant.

[Jack Posobiec]

We also know Israeli forces struck S300 launchers in the Isfahan area. And multiple strikes carried out on Tehran

[Mike Benz]

itself, particularly on the Parchin military industrial

[Jack Posobiec]

complex, the IRGC's Peron base, the Fifth

[Mike Benz]

Intelligence Police base, the District 18 municipality

[Jack Posobiec]

building, the waterfall public park and the headquarters of Iranian intelligence. Also we saw last night an Israeli F35 fighter supposedly we're told, shot down an Iranian fighter over Tehran.

[Mike Benz]

This would be the first confirmed kill for the F35 air platform in combat operations. The F22. I mentioned this the other day, still

[Jack Posobiec]

has yet to score a confirmed kill in any operation.

[Mike Benz]

So the first for the F35 platform, this being of course the variant purchased

[Jack Posobiec]

by Israel, scoring that kill over Tehran. We haven't seen American, American pilots and

[Mike Benz]

American fighters operating over the skies of Tehran yet. In this instance, that is, that is

[Jack Posobiec]

more what Israel is focused on with their Operation Rising lion.

[Mike Benz]

Whereas with Operation Epic Fury you're seeing

[Jack Posobiec]

the more standoff attacks taking place. We also saw Azerbaijan Ministry of Foreign

[Mike Benz]

affairs stating that drone attacks were carried

[Jack Posobiec]

out from Iranian territory. Now Iran, interestingly enough, is denying this.

[Mike Benz]

And so real questions as to whether

[Jack Posobiec]

or not this was militia that set that off as well. These real questions about the Kurds in western Iran will, or I should say

[Mike Benz]

in on the border with western Iran on Iraqi territory.

[Jack Posobiec]

Will they be sending this ground force which has been much discussed, will they

[Mike Benz]

be sending that ground force into Iran?

[Jack Posobiec]

Qatar also reported shooting down two Iranian Su 24 bombers from approaching Al Adid air base.

[Mike Benz]

So the United States air base in

[Jack Posobiec]

Qatar facing a lot of attacks and then of course seeing a lot of

[Mike Benz]

we're seeing a lot about questions about attacks on Abu Dhabi, UAE and Dubai.

[Jack Posobiec]

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Benz from the foundation for Freedom Online. Benz, how are you?

Hey, great, Jack.

[Jack Posobiec]

How are you doing?

[Mike Benz]

So you know, this has been something

[Jack Posobiec]

where we know that all the way

[Mike Benz]

back to Operation Ajax, all the way back to World War II. CIA, MI6 Western powers have really focused on Iran as a country where we've tried to install pro US government and of course, at the same time seen Islamic radicals, seen pro Soviet types take over in the past. When we look at what's going on with the Iranian regime right now, how would you say that history plays into what we're seeing take place on the ground today?

Well, it's an inextricable part of it. The, the fact is we are trying to accomplish regime change and this was something that we tried to do in 1953. It was done at that point. You're, you're correct to point out that that point, that was a joint US UK operation and notably the UK is on the other side of it this time. There's a, there's a pretty significant dispute happening right now between the US and UK over the UK posture around what's just transpired. But at that point in 1953, we installed a pro US regime in, in Iran that was precipitated by the Iranian attempt to nationalize Anglo British Petroleum and several other matters. That Shah regime lasted from 1953 to 1979. At that point, the Iranian revolution happened at a time that Jimmy Carter had decimated the CIA. So that set off a, a new era, pardon if there's background noise that, that set off a new era of a national security state in the United states after the 1979 revolution. And what you're dealing with fundamentally here is that there is mean reversion back to what the Shiite Muslim population there wants without very heavy CIA, US Military, USAID support. There was a pretty savage secret intelligence state in Iran during those periods of American effective occupation. There was the savak. There was there so pretty, pretty famous heavy hand that was used to suppress the unfortunately organic will of the people of Iran for some sort of Islamic state. My concern about what's happening here is, is I, is I'm concerned that the scale of the protests has been overstated. You have a basically 95% Shia population and you know, at about 90 million people, that's about 80 some million Shiite Muslim folks who are supportive of a Shiite Muslim state. What we have here is basically a minority that we've been supporting, and that minority will not be able to rule without a permanent stability apparatus installed. So even in the best case scenario of a regime change, you are still talking about decades or centuries of internal meddling and suppression in order to stop mean reversion back to, I mean, unless you basically try to eradicate an entire religion of A quarter billion people, the, of the Shiite faith around, around the world and, and knocking out the, their key religious figure in addition to all the assassinations. There's what we've bit off here is not a small amount to chew.

No, I think that's exactly right. And when you're talking about a country of 90 million people, this is a country that's far larger than Afghanistan, it's far larger than Iraq. This would be the largest country the United States has attempted this in, in the past couple of decades. Now at the same time I, you know, I have seen a lot of people point this out and I want to get your thoughts on it. This is actually happening at a time when the Iranian regime is certainly at its weakest. In the past 47 years. Its proxies have been largely decimated. They've lost their ally in Syria in terms of Bashar Al Assad. They've Russia of course their major partner and major supporter has been bogged down in Ukraine, Ukraine with those operations. So not to say that, that it's going to be easy, but if there were a time to do this, this would actually be the moment.

Well, that's why it was done. It wasn't done because there was an imminent threat. In that sense. It was done because there was an imminent opportunity. Syria's, Syria's gone. Bashar Al Assad, Hamas is decapitated. Hezbollah is literally decapitated. The Iran was so weak in, in late 2024 that it was one of the Iranian, Iran's weakness at that time post the Israeli offensive after October 7 that it was unable to prop up Assad against the CIA and Turkish backed moderate rebels, so to speak in Syria. It is undoubtedly true that they are at their weakest, so to speak.

And it's, it certainly is. You know, that being said, it's, you know, you have a situation where and,

[Jack Posobiec]

and I want to be clear about

[Mike Benz]

this with everybody that the Iranian regime is extremely repressive. We just saw them take out thousands and we'll leave it there some lower end. I've seen people say 5,000 at the upper end, 35,000 of these protesters just a couple of months ago. And that was the besieged, that was the irgc. And when those individuals are recruited, they are recruited specifically for their fealty to the regime, for their loyalty to radical Islam and specifically in this case radical Shia Islam. So you know, the distinct sect from the Sunnis doesn't mean they won't work with Sunnis like Hamas. But at the same time they are an Extremely powerful force and one that's going to have to be dealt with. They're not one that's just going to sit down and let an opposition rise up and take over. They will respond militarily. They've done so very recently. They will use martial arms on this. They're not going to be a situation where they allow protests to grow. They will go Tiananmen Square Day 1. And that's really the big, the big

[Jack Posobiec]

push here is who can outlast the other.

[Mike Benz]

Can the United States maintain these operations? And certainly we have offensive weapons that, that far exceed the Iranian military and the Iranian regime. The question is can they hang on? And that's really what their fight's for, is for survivability, isn't it?

Yeah, this is via Iran. This is, this is the concern is not who's got the better military hardware. There has been concerns that after the 2015 Iran deal that a sanctions free Iran, per what the Biden and well really what the Obama framework was, was calling for would allow Iran to supersize its, its military and its long and short range missiles. But the situation we're in now is, is not really, it's not really about whether or not we are militarily stronger than. There is a durability issue, obviously the, the much vaunted debate right now over the cost of interceptors and really the validation of the 1.5 trillion dollar Pentagon budget proposed by the president. We're now seeing why that is perceived as, as necessary. It will be to support this because of the sheer cost. We, we saw that all the heads of the defense companies were all brought into the White House this week and by media reports, tongue lashed about the need to radically upscale production because of the relative asymmetry in the, in the cost of a cheap Iranian drone versus multiple expensive interceptors. But the fact is, is that's simply a question of budget, not capability. But that question of budget is going to tear at the, the heart of the debate inside America about what we're spending our money on. And this is happening, you know, right ahead of the midterm elections and those

domestic concerns that a lot of people are starting to bring up. Jack Posobic, Mike Benz right back. Humans Daily.

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[Jack Posobiec]

All right, Jack Paso. Look back live human events Daily. Ron with Mike Benz. We're talking about the potential is this, is this the final showdown with Iran? And Nicolo soldo who once wrote the essay Turbo America says yes, says that this is the final showdown with Iran. And he writes that when you strip away, he's a great essayist, people can follow him. Stripping away moral considerations, domestic policies, biases. The author contends this is the best time to, quote, finish off Iran once and for all. With Iran being severely weakened, isolated, vulnerable, making it, quote, ripe for the plucking. Removing the Islamic Republic would eliminate the last major state level challenger to US hegemony in the Middle east, finally pacifying the region, incorporating it fully into what he calls the US sphere of influence. So it talks about the protests, Talking about the 40 year regional strategy which has largely collapsed in the last couple of weeks. The recent joint strikes, of course we've seen the US and Israel damaging Iran's nuclear infrastructure returns Iran's retaliation seemingly as if they're mortally wounded. And international isolation where you know, of course, as we know, Russia is bogged down in their existential war where China is playing a long game without intervening. And you have these, these allies like Assad and Hezbollah either either exiled or humbled and you know, really, really seeing Al Qaeda and the, you know, the rebranded Al Qaeda taking over Syria. So here are the US objectives. Secure US Secure oil supplies, fuel the global economic growth, exert leverage on non aligned states, control of energy resources, protect and expand the position of Israel, heavily influenced of course by pro Israel domestic constituencies in the US and you look at the past interventions which have served these goals with side effects obviously 9, 11, no question tied to US troops in Saudi Arabia which have offended Islamic norms. But you really look at this regional picture of the secular Arab regimes having been removed and Iran of course being the sole remaining state opponent to US designs. So Benz, that's the Nicolo Soldo analysis, the final showdown with Tehran. In a summary, I wanted to get your, your sense of where you stand on that.

[Mike Benz]

I'm not sold though, not sold though on that. This is a, this is a, how does, how does that come to pass? Let's just, so let's assume that it's going to take weeks and not years best case scenario to install a pro US government. Even though we just heard this week this is going to probably take until at least September is what is what. You know this when, when the strikes were announced, they said four or five days. Now it's four or five months. I don't think anyone will be surprised if it's four or five years. But let's just say that you best case scenario, you install Reza Pahlavi or whoever. Now you've got a minority government that is going to have to be protected, midwifed against the fact that most of the people in Iran are still are going to have loyalties to the previous regime. The majority of the people there, arguably the vast majority of the people there, and they are going to have fresh memories of their entire senior leadership being decapitated of thousands of people dead of, I mean, possibly tens or even hundreds of thousands by the time this is, this is over. You're going to need everything that the SAVAK was famous for in terms of having this secret intelligence state that is constantly going around murdering challengers to the state. You're going to need that inside Iran to stop folks loyal to the previous regime. You're going to need this regime propped up from the outside from now till the end of eternity to stop the mean reversion. And I keep coming back to this point. This is, this is the main issue with regime change in the first place, is that if, if an exogenous force is necessary to install a regime and exhaust during that short, turbulent period leading up to the regime change, that exogenous force is needed to maintain the regime or else it mean reverts back to the regime it was before the artificial change. And that's what we saw in 1979 after the 26 years of the Shah. That is what we will need forever in Iran in order to keep this and keep this even in the best case scenario. So even after you spend tens or hundreds of billions of dollars waging the kinetic war, you will need tens or hundreds of billions of dollars in USAID in foreign assistance and foreign internal defense and security and peacekeeping forces every year until the end of time in order to order to, in order to keep the regime propped up that you install.

[Jack Posobiec]

And this, of course, this is of course, what happened, I'll just say in Afghanistan and Iraq.

[Mike Benz]

Yeah. And In Iraq has 45 million Shiite Muslims. This is, what's happening right now is going to, you know, I mean, I think we're already seeing, I think what was it, nine protesters who were killed in, in Bahrain with the, the Shia protests that surrounded.

[Jack Posobiec]

Which also has a Shia population but a Sunni ruler.

[Mike Benz]

Right. But there was a, there was a set of, I think we killed nine protesters who were surrounding the, the embassy right there. You're going to see Iraq inflamed over this. We just saw, I think three of the four major Gulf states, including Saudi, threaten to peel back us invest their investments that they promised President Trump last year in the us over this unless this comes to a close very quickly. I think that we're coming up on

[Jack Posobiec]

a, on a quick break, but I would love to delve in with that with you a little bit more because I've seen reporting from the Financial Times and others regarding that question, the Gulf states, and I was on Fox last night, brought that up as well. What will the reaction of the Gulf states be? Will they put money over regional power? Right back. Human Events Daily. Jack Paso, Big Mike Benzion

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[Mike Benz]

No one knows. It's, it doesn't look like their consent was secured prior to the attacks. This is now. It's, I suppose it makes sense. The surprise nature of the attacks probably necessitated in the eyes of the White House a very small need to know basis. But I think that all the Gulf states learned about the attacks at the same time we did, which is unusual in the Bush administration in the regime change wars at that time. I think the Saudis were bought in or brought in at the ground, ground floor level. I think that there's widespread recognition in the region that this is going to be a long, this is, this is an event of enormous implication and long term implication. As you said, they want the party to keep going. They had a good thing going. There was relative stability. Iran was weak and not posing an imminent threat to shutting down the Strait of Hormuz or to Frank or frankly an economic threat even to the, the Saudis or the other Gulf partners because of the sanctions that, that have been in place. And now everything's up in the air and we don't know

[Jack Posobiec]

and what we, when we see this, you know, I want to go through the list again. We're talking Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and particularly when it comes to Dubai. You know, people have been talking about the, the plight of the influencers and the onlyfans models, the only fans capital of the world. But really Dubai has pitched itself as, and positioned itself for years. It's taken them 15 years to establish themselves as sort of the Las Vegas of the Middle East. And rapidly that reputation is going to be leaving because they are losing all of it. Every time you see a missile flying overhead, whether it be air defense or an Iranian missile, they're directly striking into that reputational, that reputational investment that they had built up so much because, because simply you're not going to be able to have these, these parties, this nightlife, all these things going on if people still revert back to, as you say, revert back to mean. And the mean being that the Middle east is a hot area. It's a place of war, and it's a place where wars constantly break out.

[Mike Benz]

Yeah, we'll see if the attacks there escalate. I think that the, the, the physical stability. I think, I think if there were to be a very serious attack on Dubai, it's hard to say we don't know all that much about Iran's stockpiles. The big target, we're told this week has been the remaining stockpiles of missiles at all the various sites, both above and underground inside Iran. While there is considerable, I think, hysteria within our own military establishment about our own stockpiles, there is a unknown, unknown about Iran's. And while it's true that they've struck out at, I think the list is up to 13 different countries and territories all over the Gulf. You can't keep that up forever while still trying to hit Israel and US Military bases. We've seen that the largest munitions deployments in the past two nights, for example, have been at Tel Aviv. And I'm not sure that Dubai will be under physical kinetic assault a month from now in the way that the US and Israeli assets are likely to be. But who knows? It's what we've done now with the Iranian Navy could, you know, which was intended, I think, to stop the ability for Iran to shut down the Strait of Hormuz may drive Iran to pursue some sort of surprise attack against something like Dubai proper. We saw, I think it was even one of the hotels associated with the Burj Khalifa. You know, basically, I mean, this is. They may attack something of great symbolic value. You know, for example, if you were to have some of these marquee projects in, in Saudi or in Dubai struck in the way that some of the ones in Iran were, I think Iran will be looking for pressure points. And the, the best case scenario is that they don't, they don't strike them. But, you know, now, now there's talks about boots on the ground, which will be necessary even in the event of success. As I said, you're going to need boots on the ground to support whatever regime you prop up at the end of this. There's, there's simply no way that the small minority of, of the folks inside Iran that we've been supporting and who are trying to throw off the yoke of a, of a pretty nasty regime. The fact is they are, they are a minority and it will require boots on the ground one way or the other, whether you call that a invading military force or whether you call that a peacekeeping internal foreign defense force. And the response, I believe, from the Iranian foreign minister on, on the news last night, I think he was interviewed by MSNBC or CNN and he, he said, bring it on. So that we're waiting for them.

[Jack Posobiec]

They are certainly preparing for it. And they're certainly, I would say, baiting President Trump and trying to say that they're not going anywhere, that they want to be out. We're also seeing, by the way, Bahrain, as to your point, just banned public gatherings. I'd also throw out that, you know, the question of these drones, the question of Iran's massive drone stockpiles and construction capabilities, the same way that we've seen them be able to supply these to Russia for the Ukraine fight, are going to be another huge factor in all of this because, yes, the ballistic missiles are far more powerful, but these kamikaze drones are an asymmetric capability that Iran has built up over the last couple of years and been using to such great efficacy that even the United States has reverse engineered them. Unfortunately, that's all time we have with Mike Benz today. Benz, where can people go to follow you to get more of your Cheerios, cheery and optimistic analysis?

[Mike Benz]

You know where to find me. I'm, I'm on exit. Mike Ben, Cyber.

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All right, Jack Posobic. We are back live Human Events Daily. Oh, breaking news from the Post. Millennial President Trump coming out now saying deploying US Ground troops to Iran would be a waste of time, says they've lost everything. They've lost their navy. They've lost everything that they can lose. President Trump said that he would not rule it out originally, but now is saying to NBC that such a move would be a waste of time, but that he's also looking, of course, for that new leadership. So the question that we've asked to the audience, and we've got your emails, we've got your comments in, let's go through some of those today 1776 human events.com 1776 human events.com Will Iran agree to President Trump's unconditional surrender terms? First is in from Andrew. Yes, and to quote Darth Vader, I find your lack of faith disturbing being all the best. Next is from Turnkoff. He says no, they will not because that would leave Iran completely and utterly defenseless and no country would do that. Why? Because whether they leave themselves defenseless by agreeing to Trump's terms or simply lose the war, it'll have the same effect. Be wiped off the face of the earth. And let's see, where else are we going here? Okay, next we've got Jerry from California. We've had several administrations that did absolutely nothing and allowed Iran and their proxies to attack our bases, our ships and our people. They've supplied Hezbollah and the Houthis and have re wreaked havoc on the world. God bless President Trump. He is the only ones who has the stones to go out and try to fix this mess. Also taking in some comments from X so and and Rumble. So if you guys are on Rumble or Getter, if you're in the live chats, please send your comments, your messages in. We'll get to them if we can. This one from Open Society Lens. Iran has been preparing for this war for the last 20 years. And when the magic moment finally comes, you think they will give up? Absolutely no chance. They are eagerly waiting for the USA to land boots on the ground. This one from Michael. I doubt it. Time to quit being so nice. This one from jc3. The answer is no. Jack. It was no before you type the question. It was no before Trump sent the email was no approximately 3,000 years into Iran's existence. But please keep checking. Keith, Uncensored says counter question. Is there anyone left to accept terms base? James? I highly doubt it. What else do they have to lose? Political hack. They won't have to. There won't be any leadership left to agree with it. Let's see. I want to find some good ones. Want to find some good ones. Trump's legacy will know no unconditional surrender. N like K N O W How about this question? Will Israel send its navy to the Strait of Hormuz to allow oil to flow out of the Gulf states? Chad? Not a chance. Thaddeus. The terms are no different. Before we legally attack them, there's no such thing as an illegal war, by the way. They're rejected because there's no such thing as international law. They were rejecting them and that's why Trump and Bibi attacked because unconditional surrender is kind of a nonstarter in negotiations. John says no, but I've officially become a panic in over this. How would this not turn out being a disaster? Frank? Not only are they surrendering but they are buying up the Trump Gold Card Visa program in droves. Never seen anything like it. I don't know if that's true as the IRGC buying the Trump Gold Card. Okay, this one from William, he says yes and they will agree to Trump's unconditional surrender. About time he realized that. Oh, Trump's unconditional surrender. About time he realized US and Israel have lost another Michael says why would they think they want to have a regime change because the US said so. They are also pounding Israel. This one from John. Trump surrendered to the neocon Israel first. Republicans. Bobby says they have already told us to screw off. We just attacked them twice during negotiations and they along with the rest of the world have learned their lesson. What question what country would ever trust us? Now the lesson is if you don't have a nuke, you better race to one. That going from Bobby. His latest email from Edward Jack, how do you feel about that, Mike? Ben states no matter which way you go, they will need boots on the ground or either as an invading army or as a peacekeeping force. Allah, Vietnam. So as the host of human events, are you going to make a comment on those specific statements? Boots on the ground? I don't think that we'll see American boots on the ground. I personally just don't think we're going to see it. I don't think that it's in the cards. You saw President Trump's statement last night about that. He thinks it would be a waste of time. I think that's true. I think it's unlikely. Is it impossible? No, it's not impossible, but I think it's unlikely. I think that what you're going to see is something more similar to the Venezuela option where someone pragmatic is going to step up and say I will be the leader but I also want to make this deal with the United States for peace and hopefully on their perspective, stability. And you're going to see that. So the boots on the ground to uphold the regime will be their own boots, not US boots. Let's see this one. Oh, here's a MVG says you're asking a narrow question. In a multivector scenario, when and if Iran surrenders to the contact contract that the powers that be require, based on past history of similar regime change Scenario factional fighting will continue and exacerbate instability in the region and beyond. Or as Charlie put it, regime change warfare in Iran is a big mistake. Tamper with that the nwo both in new age intel and new age weaponry. It looks as if we landed in the net exactly where the enemy would prefer us. But as for enemies, it would seem more dire for America to address the enemy within. Drain the swamp. And since oil may be the only factor regarding this war, please consider my crypto prepay gasoline disruptor idea for the industry. It would sure help farmers and truckers around the globe. That doesn't sound like a bad idea. This one in from Joe. Remember 1776@Human Events.com 1776 Human Events.com no, they will not give up. These people are. If you think these people are crazy. If we want our way, you'd have to kill them all. When we get closer, they will use the better stuff to hit one of our ships. We still have a chance to pull out now if we don't and they get their say, we will be dragged in. If a ship, if a ship gets sunk, we are going all in. These people think differently. We need to focus on the western hemisphere. Even if Trump get someone, I think, I fear Netanyahu will kill him. And of course we saw that where Israel came in and was striking leadership. President Trump even said himself that some of the people that they were looking to work with Israel had already killed. So obviously being a factor here that people want are going to have to understand is that will the United States agree or will other people not agree to whoever the, whoever the next leader is and what role. Look, when you start assassinating people, right this becomes, it changes the incentive structure. It changes the instructive structure for everyone because people are going to be saying should we be assassinating them? Should we step up and be the leader? If I'm going to be assassinated next, who wants to be the leader? And of course who wants to be there? I want to hop into the. I'm in the rumble chat right now. This one from Poygon kid says we asked for unconditional surrender by Japan right before we dropped the bomb on them. Fisherman85 that was their big drone launching warship bursting into flames, turning around into glass. Memzi Finally, a person with an intelligent question. Kurt Bass. While President Trump has delivered time and time again, all these doubters are wearing me out. Why is it so hard to trust him? Let's see someone Memzi now talking about the Palestinians and question about and you know, cause it a genocide. What's going on with the Palestinians? Trucker Trucker 69 says Obama gave them billions to wreak havoc around the world, destroy the regime in Iran. Trump is cleaning up the past administration's treason. Darth Brooks 77 Our boys are Darth Brooks. That's funny. Our boys are fighting our tax dollars. Obama gave them, you know, so that getting to that point again, asking about the Abraham Accords, let's see. Alyssa says, well, they tried to assassinate Trump. And this, of course, is something that the president has said himself. I got him before he got me. What has the president seen in terms

[Mike Benz]

of the assassination attempt, which we were

[Jack Posobiec]

told, and it's been reported, and I heard this as well, Even back during 2024, back during the campaign, that there was an assassination attempt on the president that was tied to Iran. What does the president know about that? And will he come out and tell the people of the country all about it? Folks, that is it. It has been a week here on Human Events. Thank you so much for sticking with us. Thank you so much for being here. And as always, ladies and gentlemen, you have my permission to lay ashore. This is an I Heart podcast, guaranteed human.