Human Events with Jack Posobiec, November 11th, 2025

Summary

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Human Events with Jack Posobiec – Veterans Day 2025

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Jack Posobiec
Guest: Matthew Lohmeyer (Under Secretary of the Air Force, first Space Force veteran)
Date: November 11, 2025
Episode Focus: Veterans Day 2025, the state of the U.S. military, ideological threats, the influence of Marxism, and honoring the late Charlie Kirk.

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Overview

This special Veterans Day episode centers on the meaning of service, the legacy of American veterans, and the ongoing cultural and ideological battles within the U.S. military and society. Jack Posobiec hosts Lt. Col. (Ret.) Matthew Lohmeyer, now Under Secretary of the Air Force and the first veteran of the Space Force. The discussion traces Lohmeyer’s story from whistleblower on politicization in the military to serving in the highest levels of civilian leadership. Together, they reflect on recent political events, the challenges and opportunities for the military, and the impact of divisive ideologies, especially Marxism and DEI (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion). The episode also pays tribute to the late Charlie Kirk, exploring his recent involvement with military oversight and his legacy after his assassination.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Honoring Veterans and the Meaning of Service (02:19, 07:04, 39:05)

• Jack Posobiec opens with moving commentary about Veterans Day, honoring those who “have been willing to fight for” the nation (02:19).

  “We have a nation for one reason… Because American patriots have been willing to fight for it.” – Jack Posobiec [02:40]

• Narrative focus on how all military service, from the Revolutionary War through today’s Space Force, is united by sacrifice and devotion.
• Direct tribute is paid to all veterans, along with images of President Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance at Arlington, reflecting “the American birthright of freedom” defended by veterans (02:19, 07:04, 39:05).

  “Because of you, America is safe. Because of you, America is strong. Because of you, America is free.” – Veterans Day Narrator [01:44]

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2. Chaos at Home: Violence and Division (00:28, 01:18)

• Reports of violence in Chicago during immigration enforcement (00:28), and violence at a Turning Point USA college event in Berkeley, are discussed as symptoms of domestic disorder and political polarization.
• Posobiec explicitly links “radical Marxists” and Antifa to escalating violence at conservative events, drawing parallels with previous “Battles of Berkeley” (06:00).

  “They were attacked by a known terrorist group, Antifa... It needs to be stopped.” – Jack Posobiec [05:37]

• Emphasis that American patriots must defend not only abroad, but “here at home,” against internal threats.

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3. The Military’s Cultural Struggles: Ideology, Merit, and Readiness (09:21–22:00, 23:24)

• Matthew Lohmeyer details his military journey, his whistleblowing book, and the failure of official channels to stop political activism and division in the military workspace (12:32, 19:51).

  “Unity is our strength, not diversity... The problems I happened to see at my base... I had tried to use all of the appropriate channels... That didn’t work, so I wrote a book.” – Matt Lohmeyer [12:37, 13:44, 19:51]

• DEI Initiatives are framed as divisive and rooted in Marxist or communist ideology, drawing a direct line from historic revolutionary tactics to current military training.

  “We spent... blood and treasure during the Cold War fighting this very ideology. To have it just wreck house in this country was really sad...” – Matt Lohmeyer [21:20]

• Example: Soviet-style destabilization of military units by forced “justice reforms” to create division and weaken effectiveness (22:00).

  “My gosh, these aren’t similar tactics. These are the same tactics, same playbook.” – Jack Posobiec [22:58]

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4. Restoration under New Leadership (28:16)

• Return of President Trump and appointment of Pete Hegseth as Secretary of Defense led to rapid executive orders eliminating DEI trainings (28:16).
• Recruitment and retention rebound attributed directly to restoration of meritocracy and standards-based leadership.

  “We didn’t have a problem for the first time in a number of years meeting our recruiting goals... people are excited to serve again.” – Matt Lohmeyer [29:30]

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5. The All-Volunteer Force: Threats to Continuity (31:27–34:07)

• Declining morale and legacy enlistment during periods of politicization—families decline to recommend service unless trust is restored in the institution (31:27).
• Discussion of the military’s “contained community” and how the volunteer tradition is central to national security (32:54).

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6. Remembering Charlie Kirk: His Role and Legacy (34:07–37:31)

• Tribute to the late Charlie Kirk, who served briefly on the Air Force Academy Board of Visitors before his assassination.
• Lohmeyer recounts Kirk's devoted interest in the character development of cadets and the restoration of the historic Chapel at the Academy.

  “He got to interact with the men and women that are the future leaders... He had great respect for them, said they were outstanding and impressive.” – Matt Lohmeyer [35:14] “Charlie cared about getting that right... That was the last conversation I had about with him.” – Matt Lohmeyer [37:16]

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7. The Documentary – “Call Sign Courage: The Matt Lohmeyer Story” (09:21, 11:09, 40:42)

• Promotion and trailer for the documentary chronicling Lohmeyer’s experience, military culture, and ideological division.

  “Historically, we’ve been the best in the world because we’ve always cared about merit. And it’s what made the American military the most lethal military on the planet.” – Matt Lohmeyer [41:07]

• Points to both internal threat of politicization and the rising challenge from China.

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8. Marxism as the Central Threat (42:31–end)

• Posobiec explicitly places current struggles in the frame of Marxist revolutionary tactics—“divide and conquer”—citing not only division within the military, but across American society.
• Focus on recent “Marxist” victories in U.S. politics and the media’s lack of attention to leftist violence.

  “Marxism comes in to divide... Once the Marxist divides, the Marxist conquers.” – Jack Posobiec [42:31] “We are in a war for Western civilization. The Patriots of the United States of America did not die, did not give their lives... so that we could go down bickering and complaining instead of fighting back.” – Jack Posobiec [end]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "We have a nation for one reason... Because American patriots have been willing to fight for it."
  – Jack Posobiec [02:40]

• "Unity is our strength, not diversity."
  – Matthew Lohmeyer [12:37]

• "No enemy on this planet is capable of unseating the United States as the power... We can undo that ourselves, however, if we start fighting one another."
  – Matthew Lohmeyer [23:24]

• "We’re merit focused, we’re standards focused... What did you see happen with recruitment and retention? Certainly we didn’t have a problem for the first time in a number of years meeting our recruiting goals..."
  – Matthew Lohmeyer [29:12]

• "Charlie cared about getting that right... And that was the last conversation I had with him."
  – Matthew Lohmeyer [37:16]

• "Marxism comes in to divide ... Once the Marxist divides, the Marxist conquers."
  – Jack Posobiec [42:31]

• "On this Veterans Day... think about what you’re doing to honor that which they fought for."
  – Jack Posobiec [final monologue]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:28 – News of violence in Chicago and Berkeley
• 02:19 – Veterans Day reflections, President Trump and VP Vance at Arlington
• 05:35–07:05 – Discussion of Antifa, “battle of Berkeley,” rising domestic instability
• 09:21–11:09 – “Call Sign Courage” trailer, Lohmeyer’s introduction
• 12:32–15:36 – Lohmeyer on his story, transition from military to public servant
• 19:51–22:00 – Catalysts for writing “Irresistible Revolution,” confronting politicization
• 22:00–25:18 – Revolutionary tactics, impact on military effectiveness
• 28:16–31:11 – New administration’s reforms; turnaround in morale, focus, and recruitment
• 34:07–37:31 – Remembering Charlie Kirk’s military involvement and legacy
• 40:42 – “Call Sign Courage” trailer replay
• 42:31–end – Final monologue: Marxism, division, and call to unity and action

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Tone & Delivery

• Jack Posobiec’s style: urgent, passionate, direct, sometimes rhetorical, frequently returning to themes of “patriotism,” “war for Western civilization,” and the sacredness of military service.
• Matthew Lohmeyer’s tone: reflective, earnest, principled, respectful of chain of command and government service, but candid about past problems.

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Summary for New Listeners

This Veterans Day edition of "Human Events" goes beyond traditional commemoration to spotlight present-day struggles over the soul of the U.S. military and the nation it serves. Through sincere, at times fiery, conversation between Jack Posobiec and Matt Lohmeyer, listeners hear about the pitfalls of ideological division, the cost of abandoning merit, and the power of patriotic legacy. The episode is a call to unity and vigilance, honoring American service by confronting the threats—internal and external—posed by Marxist-driven discord. The narrative is anchored by the recent memory of Charlie Kirk, whose assassination is emblematic of escalating tensions, and serves as a solemn reminder of what's at stake.

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Transcript

[Jack Posobiec]

This is an iHeart podcast. This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare. A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran. This is Human Events with your host, 2 Jack Posobic.

[Veterans Day Speaker / Narrator]

Christ is King.

[Jack Posobiec]

Chaos in Chicago as federal agents clash with protesters. Authorities are now searching for a suspect who allegedly fired shots at federal agents on Saturday during an immigration crackdown.

[News Reporter]

Violent clashes on the streets of Chicago and an urgent search underway for the person who federal agents say fired multiple gunshots at them during an immigration enforcement operation on Saturday. A A crowd was demanding a detained woman's release when the Department of Homeland Security says a man driving a black Jeep fired the shots and then took off. The agency saying protesters also threw bricks and a paint can at their vehicles, calling those in the crowd agitators.

[Jack Posobiec]

After 41 days, the light is finally at the end of the tunnel. The Senate voting 60 to 40 to pass a bill that will fund the government through January 30. As far as this bill is concerned.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

It is now in the hands of the U.S. house.

[Jack Posobiec]

They expect to vote sometime tomorrow tonight at Zellerbach Hall. That is the group Turning Point usa, founded by the late conservative activist Charlie Kirk. Some Cal students say they are disappointed with the school for allowing the event to happen. So far, at least two people have been detained.

[Veterans Day Speaker / Narrator]

Across the globe. Our veterans fought and bled to vanquish our enemies and preserve American America's birthright of freedom. Because of you, America is safe. Because of you, America is strong. Because of you, America is free.

[Jack Posobiec]

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. We are here Live in Washington, D.C. today is November 11, 1111. Today is Veterans Day 2025 Anno Domini. And just a few hours ago, we saw President Trump there at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. We saw him at Arlington National Cemetery. And just incredible foot, incredible views, incredible sights. It's a windy day here in D.C. it is a cold day here in the Imperial capital. But that didn't stop the President United States, and it certainly didn't stop the Vice President of the United states, a Marine, J.D. vance, from Standing next to him and appearing with the color guard there as they laid the wreath for America's fallen at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier earlier today. We have a nation for one reason. Ultimately, we have a nation for one reason only. Because American patriots have been willing to fight for it. Because American patriots have been willing to fight and defend this nation from the very moment it was born, and in many cases even before it was born. If you look at the Minutemen, look at the army, look at the Navy, the Marines. All of those services predate the actual founding of the United States by several months. November, October, 1775. When you look at that, you look at the history of the patriots. You look at the history of those who are willing to fight and those who are willing to sacrifice up to and including the last full measure of devotion. You understand what it means to be a nation. You understand what it means to have a nation. And for those people who served and for those people who continue to serve, they go where their government tells them. They go where their Uncle Sam asks them to go. They don't choose the mission. That's a political decision. And that's why, when we have those political decisions, that it should always be taken with the utmost care that if you are going to put an American serviceman into harm's way, it is only done when it is of the utmost importance and in the direct interests of the American nation and the defense of the American homeland and the American people. We would not have an American people if it were not for the American patriots and the American veterans. But you look at what's happening here at home, and last night we had, and I mentioned it on Fox News, perhaps another iteration of yet another battle of Berkeley. We saw antifa attacks, we saw trans elements, we saw furry elements attacking the students and parents, by the way, who just wanted to go to a Turning Point event, spend time with their families, hear some great speakers like Rob Schneider, a Hollywood actor who's come out now fully embracing Christ, fully embracing his patriotism. And they were attacked. They were attacked by a known terrorist group, Antifa. The Berkeley chapter of Antifa is called By Any Means Necessary. They were behind the attacks at the Battle of Berkeley all the way back to 2017, the multiple battles of Berkeley. And yet for some reason, they have not yet been rolled up. It needs to be stopped. We can't allow this to happen to our people. American patriots must defend the American people, both here at home as well as abroad, from this insanity. And Turning Point usa. We faced violence at the very last event of the tour, and we faced violence at the very first event of the tour. Radical Marxists attacking people at the streets and committing one assassination. This has to stop. It absolutely has to stop. And we have to get this country right. So if we're going to honor veterans today, if we're going to honor patriotism today, then we should honor the things that they fought for, honor the things that the World War I veterans fought for. Sergeant Alvin York, World War II, the Band of brothers, the boys in Normandy honor what they fought for for now and all time, and we will be able to defend our country. Be right back with the undersecretary of the Air Force, Matt Lomire. The honorable Matt Lohmire joins me here in studio here at Vacuum Events.

[Veterans Day Speaker / Narrator]

We'll stand in our way and our golden age has just begun.

[Jack Posobiec]

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[Matthew Lohmeyer]

Being spied on, the chaplain, snooping around my office and my house being broken into. Things like that don't happen on military bases. The man I'm Interviewing today has 1200.

[Jack Posobiec]

Hours of flying the T38, followed by the F15C.

[News Reporter]

Colonel Matthew Lohmire.

[Jack Posobiec]

Matthew Lohmeyer. Matthew Lohmeyer. This is not just anybody we're talking about that served the military.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

Historically, we've been the best in the world because we've always cared about merit. And it's what made the American military the most lethal military on the planet. The entire military is preparing for a fight against China.

[Jack Posobiec]

President Xi is the most ideological leader that China's had since Chairman Mao. Mao said he doesn't need military people. He has an army of indoctrinated kids. They asked me what my pronouns were.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

And he thought it was incredible to see that inclusion and change. We were starting to be divided by political discourse.

[Jack Posobiec]

I want to understand white rage. And I'm white. That's what diversity, equity, inclusion is all about. Inclusion, equality, or. And what's important, that's how we'll win our nation's wars. We are trained Marxists because of forces coming from Marxism within our own government. It becomes not a foreign threat. It becomes a domestic threat.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

The base commander was the ideologue who is pushing a particular political agenda. If you're white, you're part of the problem. Biggest terror threat in this country is white men.

[Jack Posobiec]

Violent white supremacy.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

One of the greatest obstacles to the success of a Marxist revolutionary cause is a strong, united military force. Someone needed to speak up.

[Jack Posobiec]

Incredible documentary that is out now. You can check it out on salem now. Salem now.com and I'm very excited to to be joined here live in studio by the undersecretary of the Air Force and a veteran himself. In fact, the first veteran of the Space Force, the honorable Matt Lohmeyer joins us. What's up, Matt?

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

Thanks for having me, Jack. Pleasure to be here.

[Jack Posobiec]

So your story going from writing a book the way you did, coming out the way you did, what happened to you, the response from previous administration and now. I really don't want to make an Air Force pun right here, but soaring to what you've become, what does it feel like just going back and kind of, if you had to think about it, from. I don't know if you fly at 50,000ft, but maybe Space Force does almost. Space Force. Yeah, Space Force certainly does well above. But yeah. Neo Heo, Leo. Right, There you go.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

And Leo.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

Mio heo, gio mio heo, geo.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

I'll get there.

[Jack Posobiec]

I'll get there.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

You're getting there?

[Jack Posobiec]

I'll get there. I gotta work on my boards again. Been a minute, but how does it feel, having gone through such so many ups and downs, to now be sitting here today in the position you're in?

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

You asked a hard question up front. So first off, thank you for having me in.

[Jack Posobiec]

I did.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

There's a lot of feelings, I want to say, I guess kind of a necessary caveat up front, which you'll appreciate. You know, I didn't come here to promote the film. Thank you for your support for the film. But it is my story. I'm here to talk about veterans and the work we're doing in the Air Force. Of course. Of course. And I do want to tell you a little bit about how I'm feeling. I'm still trying to process that, actually. I wrote a book, you know, nearly four, over four years ago now, because I saw problems that were dividing the force. And like you or anyone that served in the military, you appreciate the fact that a divided military is not a strong military. You need a united military. In fact, unity is our strength, not diversity. And the problems that I happened to see at my base were something that I had tried to use all of the appropriate channels, from my chain of command to the inspector general's office to try to tell a story that would hopefully hold activists accountable for political activism in the military workplace. That didn't work. So I wrote a book. You were very supportive back then, by the way, so thank you very much.

[Jack Posobiec]

It was a great book.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

And so I ended up in the. In Private life for the last four years, which I enjoyed very much. Enjoyed having a full range of free expression of my views as a private, private citizen, but ended up meeting President Trump. It's been a little over a year that that happened. In fact, one year ago today. Exactly. I was sitting with Pete Hegseth before he was nominated by the president to be the Secretary of Defense. We were in John Rich's bar in downtown Nashville, Tennessee, and we were doing a Fox Nation show on Veterans Day, and he told me he was headed to the White House the very next day to interview for the job that he's currently in. I said, God bless you. Good luck with that. That sounds terrible. But he stepped up to the plate, and I was happy to step up when he and the president asked me to come in and Do a job for the Air Force. My feelings are, it's exciting, it's daunting. It's been a steeper learning curve than I expected. I speak both Air Force and Space Force, and yet there's a whole lot to learn. And I'm four months into the job, and I'm getting the hang of it now.

[Jack Posobiec]

You know, when I deploy, deployed down to Gitmo, I was actually attached to an army unit. So I. I like to say I speak a little bit of art. Like, I'm. I'm. I could say I don't know if I speak army, but I understand it and. But of course I speak Navy. I didn't realize that Space Force had already generated its own lingo.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

It has its own lingo because it's got.

[Jack Posobiec]

Or maybe that's what you just.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

Maybe just explained to me, its own domain. You know, that's true. I had a divorce, but I'd flown F15s. I've been a T38 instructor pilot. You have to kind of divorce yourself of a little bit from the air mindset and start thinking about orbital mechanics. Leo. Meo gi.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

The words you're already learning and you want your.

[Jack Posobiec]

Those are satellite orbits, by the way.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

Those are satellite orbits. Yeah. Anything you can look up at night, by the way, and see with the naked eye. The moving satellites, the little teeny stars that go slowly across the sky, Those are in low earth orbit. Leo.

[Jack Posobiec]

So that would be. Would that include Starlink? Elon Musk.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

Yeah. In fact, if you've had a chance to see Starlink, you'll see those things transitioning up into space. Big train of lights that are going up there. Anything beyond LEO, you're not going to be able to pick up with the naked eye. People mistake what we have in LEO for other things. But those are satellites. They're reflecting the sunlight. So you get to see a little bit of what's going on in space, but not much. I was just at the Andrews Air Force Base air show about a month and a half ago, and you've got people from all over that come in and they pet the jets and they see what the Air Force does, but you can't see what the Space Force does. So our space operators actually need to develop a unique mindset to be able to operate successfully in that domain. So I speak both of those languages, and yet here I am now a public servant, civilian political appointee, helping manage the Air Force and, frankly, care for the troops, the airmen and guardians in the air and Space Force. By giving them the proper resources to do their jobs, to train properly, the tools that they need to secure successfully do their mission. It's a daunting task, but it's exciting and I'm grateful to be here.

[Jack Posobiec]

How would you say the transition's been going from serving in uniform, you were lieutenant colonel then, to civilian life, but now in a leadership of force capacity?

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

I've had some surprises and also some things I expected. The bureaucracy of the Pentagon is a behemoth. Bob Gates in his memoir said he was even shocked when he became secretary of Defense back in the day. First during, I think, the Obama years. In fact, maybe it was the Bush administration, then the Obama years, but he was shocked at the bureaucracy, how difficult it is to successfully get done what needs to get done.

[Jack Posobiec]

I've read Panetta's memoir. He talks about that as well.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

Everyone experiences it. That was a surprise, actually. My love and respect for the troops and what they do on a day in and day out basis has been refreshing to experience that firsthand. It's not a surprise to me, but it was a great reminder coming back out of civilian life into this leadership and management capacity to be able to interact with them. And our senior leaders. We have many great senior leaders. Despite some of the negative press that we get, our Air and Space Force leaders, I think they have my respect. They're trying their best to serve the American people and the president's agenda.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, I think that's exactly right. Folks, we are here. It is Veterans Day. We're sitting down in studio on Human Events Daily with Under Secretary of the Air Force, Lt. Col. Matthew Lohmire, the first Space Force veteran. You have to stop getting titles, Matt, by the way. There's too many titles to put out there. He's also, and he's not promoting, but I'm promoting. He is the subject of the new documentary Call Sign Courage. You can go and get that on Salem now dot com. We're going to take a very quick break because when we get back, I want to get into some of the things that you talked about in the book that you put out and some of the things that our military, you know, prior to Secretary Hegseth coming in, had been steering us down, I think, the wrong path and things that we were doing now to right the ship and correctly, correctly orient it towards America's adversaries and America's threats. Yeah, right, the ship, you know. Right, the ship. What can I say? Navy terms are the best terms, as we all know. Be right back. Human Events Daily, New York city road, Washington, D.C. real markers, boys.

[Veterans Day Speaker / Narrator]

Now they talk about influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine. Jack. Where's Jack?

[Jack Posobiec]

Jack.

[Veterans Day Speaker / Narrator]

He's done a great job.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right, folks, Jack Kwisobic, we are back live here, Human events daily, Washington, D.C. we're here live in studio. And we're honored to be joined by the Honorable Matthew Lohmer, Undersecretary of the Air Force and Under Secretary Lohmeyer. You wrote this book and it became the subject of so much information. It became the subject of. Well, it became the impetus for and the catalyst for. What made you the first Air Space Force veteran? What made you want to put pen to paper when you wrote that book?

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

Frustration with my failed attempts to use the system, a chain of command, and the Inspector General's office to correct political activism in the military workplace. I had attempted for many months to right a wrong that was happening, at least in many cases. Poor, ethical, you know, it was misconduct and in some cases, in my view, criminal conduct. Because we've got law that prohibits discrimination within the military based on race, hiring practices, promotion practices, and so forth. And we had troops that were being targeted in uniform for their accidentals, as it were. The race.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

And I think my chain of command at the time in the space force happened to probably agree with me that this was a big problem. But we had created a climate of fear and we were rendered rather incapable of solving the problem ourselves. And so after my failed attempts, I felt inspired to put pen to paper, as you put it, to write about it in a book as an effort to create dialogue, to bring it to the attention of who? Of Congress and the American people. And frankly, I had the troops in mind the entire time. I wanted to educate them specifically about what I knew as the communist or Marxist roots of the current progressive social justice activism that were dividing the military. And we spent an immense amount of blood and treasure during the Cold War fighting this very ideology. To have it just wreck house in this country was a really sad thing and frustrating thing to see. And I knew exactly what it was. Not everyone did. And so I thought, you know, I'm uniquely situated. I have a unique vantage as a commander in the military. I'm going to make this. Although it's about a political ideology, it's not intended to be a partisan work. It never was intended. I was later painted as kind of a partisan activist, but I wasn't. I was about keeping partisanship out of the military. That's what motivated me to write the book. And in Fact, it generated a dialogue. And I think it's done an important work. It's been valuable.

[Jack Posobiec]

So I've also. And actually, you wrote your book prior to mine, but I also wrote a book about communist revolutions. You called yours the Irresistible Revolution. And I think one of the things we were just talking during the break that we both came about was that you saw this in China, but you really saw it in Bolshevik Russia. That one of the first things that the Bolsheviks did when they wanted to recruit was they actually went into the Tsarist army at the time. Now they're fighting in World War I. So they're on the Eastern Front, they're fighting the Germans, they're fighting the Austrians, but they start going in and they start introducing these, these justice reforms. And the justice reforms are meant to make the units more equitable. And they would say, well, your unit is, is, it's, it's all Russian and, you know, ethnic Russian, and you need more Burgyars and Burats and Tajiks and Tatars and, and all of this, you know, for the. Because it's the Russian Empire, they've got all these Central Asian groups and it, and it almost changed the entire character. It destabilized those units. And then when the unit became a less capable fighting force, they went to that unit and said, you know what? Perhaps your real enemy isn't the Germans. Perhaps your real enemy is back home in the capital. And I realized, looking at it, saying, my gosh, these aren't similar tactics. These are the same tactics, same playbook.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

Same spirit that motivates that work. There is no enemy on this earth. I mean, I get to see a really clear picture now as the undersecretary of the Air Force. We've got incredible airmen and guardians. They've got amazing weapons. We've got an amazing leadership right now under Secretary Higseth and President Trump. No enemy on this planet is capable of unseating the United States as the power, the great power on the Earth. We can undo that ourselves. However, if we start fighting one another, if we start hating one another and demonizing the other, especially in uniform, because we become ineffective, we're distracted. And the mission that we do in the United States military requires a laser like focus. When you're training to do those missions. I just saw if we've got time to tell a brief story story. My first day back as a public servant, I went downstairs, I'd just been read in, and I was able to go in and sit down and receive some good and important information about our military operations. I sat down to listen to the planners and those that executed Operation Midnight Hammer in Iran, the strikes that were so well orchestrated. And I was nearly brought to tears, very emotional about the quality of work, the professionalism of these young men and women who flew bombers, flew fighters, flew tankers, did a lot of planning, sacrificed a lot of family time for a number of weeks to bring this together seamlessly and execute a mission that was fraught with peril. And it was just done so well. And that's the United States military. We are just excellent. And you cannot persist in that excellence if you are beset by distractions like diversity trainings, equity training. Secretary Hagseth has done a phenomenal job since the very beginning of eliminating those things. And I'll tell you, it's my sense that our troops are very. Excuse me. Our troops are very happy that there is a return to a focus on war fighting. That's why they signed up in the first place.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, and I can remember, in the intelligence community on our side of the House before I got out, I can remember them sort of going around with these sort of like mini pride flags and mini pride, like decals. It wasn't the full flag, but like a decal. And it would say, well, you got to put those up at your cubicle or put those up at your desk. And I'd say, in the spaces. And I'd say, well, what are those for? I'm not, you know, first of all, I'm Catholic. That's. That's, you know. And they would say, well, no, this is. If you're. This is for allies. I said, what do you mean, allies? What does that. With an ally? And they said, well, you put it up to show your support. I said, well, I don't. I don't really feel comfortable putting something like that up. I just. I'm just. I'm just going to sit at my desk and focus on China, if that's all right with you guys. I'm really not just not interested. Just. Just. I'll pass. And you could see how there was this social pressure that was brought to bear that if you. That if you rejected the, you know, the display of whatever the cause was, and it wouldn't have anything to do about the issue, it's just about the cause that suddenly, you know, suddenly that's a demerit against you. Suddenly that's a check against you. And suddenly, you know, people start looking at you differently, and people start writing your stuff up differently, and. And you're. You're sitting there wondering why aren't we focused on the mission? That's what I'm sitting here doing. That's why I'm learning Mandarin. That's why I, I focus on all of this because we want to win. And it's seemed like we had totally lost our focus. And this is under, under Obama during those years. We write back, quick break here. We're with Lieutenant Cole. Matt L. Meyer, current Under Secretary of the Air Force. Live Human Events Daily, Veterans Day.

[Veterans Day Speaker / Narrator]

Where's Jack? Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who've been getting policies.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right, Jack Republic, we're back live here. Human events daily, Washington, D.C. we are on with Under Secretary of the Air Force Matt Lohmeyer. He's here and he's walking us through his book, the Irresistible Revolution. And it occurs to me, you know, talking about, you saw, so you were, you were depicting and mapping out the issues that you saw within the force when you were, when you were in uniform. You get slapped down for that. You become the first veteran of the space force, you go into private life, you come back in this capacity, that revolutionary change that we saw going on within the force. Where is it now and what are the initiatives to. I don't want to say right the ship, but I'm going to have to say it. I'm going to have to say right the ship.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

Sorry, I'm learning Navy lingo.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, I'll get you there. I'll get you there.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

So I think that your viewers would be well aware of the fact that President Trump comes back into office issues a number of executive orders that are deliberately targeting these problems within the uniformed services and across all of the federal agencies. In fact, before he left office for his first term In September of 2020, he attempted by executive order to eliminate diversity, equity and inclusion trainings from the uniformed services. And so there was a short reprieve there before the next administration had come in. Secretary Hegseth, as the secretary of defense now secretary, has done an outstanding job moving out quickly executing those executive orders and each of the services, or the departments, and in my case, the department of the Air Force, have efforts underway and have ever since the beginning of this administration to be very clear in our communication with the force that we're merit focused, that we're standards focused. And you know, what's really interesting. And I mentioned this in my book that, that you brought up. I warn in the book that if we abandon meritocracy and if we abandon a standards based military, we will see our recruitment numbers plummet and our retention plummet. That happened and as soon as the president, this administration, Secretary Hegseth, readjusted the focus to be meritocracy based, standards based. What did you see happen with recruitment and retention? It certainly we didn't have a problem for the first time in a number of years meeting our recruiting goals. You've got young men and women all over the country that are excited to come in and serve in the military and they see that lethality matters and nothing else. We're interested in serving our country, keeping the homeland safe, deterring our enemies abroad. And we've got a serious administration that prioritizes those things. And we want to serve again. We want to serve again. A lot of people reached out over the last few years, not sure if they should serve and wanted my opinion. And now I don't get those questions anymore. I get people excitedly telling me they're signing up and are so happy with how things are going.

[Jack Posobiec]

You know, it's funny you mentioned that because I had so many people when I do the turning point events and you know, we would have college kids come up or even sometimes high school kids come up and they would say, you know, during and during the previous administration, they would say, you know, I've always wanted to go in. I've always wanted to serve my country. But I'm just, I'm just not sure because I hear you talk about these things and heard your book here, I've heard about you, heard your story and say, does it make sense for me to go in? And what I would always say is this. I would say do it. I would say go in and tell me your opinion on it. But I would always say go in because we are going to win. Because I believe common sense is going to win. I believe the military will return to form and I believe that the right answers will once again take over the leadership. And when that point comes, we are going to need good people that are already there.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

Unlike you. I'm not talking about me now, but unlike you, there were, you know, one of the ways in which we get young men and women to even take interest in all volunteer force in the first place is that they've got moms and dads and grandmas and grandpas who have all served, aunts and uncles.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, the legacies are.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

And when you've got military, they are. And when you've got an older generation in particular that does not appreciate the direction that the country is going, that does not appreciate the policy changes within the Defense Department now, War Department, that seem to upend all that they, all that they fought for themselves and the unity that they experienced while they were in uniform, they're not willing to recommend to the next generation military service. And I think, think we're seeing a.

[Jack Posobiec]

Change that would just shatter the military. That's, that is your recruiting base. And especially because so many of those, those kids, when they come through the pipeline, when they're hitting 16, 17, where those prime recruitment ages, you know, if, if they're, if their mom or dad or active duty, they've grown up in, in the military, they've grown up on post or on base, they've gone to military schools, they've had, you know, they've had, you know, military health care, etc. Etc. So they're, they're familiar with it, they know it. And you know, this has always been the core draw. I lived on base for a number of years and I always used to make a joke about it. I'd say, you know, it's very interesting to me that here on base we have, we have a hospital, we have a daycare, we have an elementary school, we have a high school, we have a MEPs, so you can join the military. Then we have our, then we have colleges, we have, we have higher grad. Then we have, we have the retirement section, we have the RV trailers. And all the way at the other end of base we have a cemetery.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

It's like the whole, it's its own contained community. Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

Which is, which is what you want.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

That's right.

[Jack Posobiec]

Which is ultimately what you want. And, and, and, and you know, it's, it was heartbreaking. And by the way, obviously a national security crisis, if we broke that, if we broke that system and broke that trust for so many of those, so many of those generations that you meet people and it's shocking when they say, oh, every generation of my family has served back to the revolution and, but you hear it all the time. You really do hear it all the time. Everyone who serves knows someone like that.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

I had, I'm guessing it was a year, it might have been two over the past four years while I was a civilian. I guess I'm still a civilian, but just when I was, when I was in my private life for, you know, at, after I'd separated, I wondered if the trends continued, we might lose Our opportunity to have an all volunteer force in this country. The trends were bad enough. That was my. I don't know if everyone would have agreed with that. But as I watched what was happening, I thought, I don't know how many years you keep this up with low recruitment numbers and still avoid a compulsory military service in this country. We've enjoyed over a half century of an all volunteer force. And I think the trend is heading in the right direction.

[Jack Posobiec]

I think that's incredible. One of the, you know, and I have to bring this up because one of the people that I know who were. Who was so focused on that very issue was someone who was actually appointed to the Board of Visitors for the United States Air Force and had time to conduct one visit out there in Colorado Springs, and that was Charlie Kirk. And Charlie and I spoke many times about how he was so excited and you know, he had, he'd had an interest in serving earlier in his life. It didn't work out. He ended up doing Turning Point full time. And we all know the story there, but he always had the utmost respect for the military. And I knew that joining the Air Force in even this advisory capacity was so exciting for him. Tragically, he didn't get chance to see that all the way through. But you told me you had a conversation with Charlie right before he took that visit.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

Yeah, we had. So my conversations with Charlie were after his visit to the Air Force Academy in his capacity on the Board of Visitors.

[Jack Posobiec]

Okay.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

But just a couple of days before his assassination. And we had spoken a couple of times, in fact, and exchanged messages because share with you the two reasons that he was really interested in talking with me about his love for those cadets. He spent time there getting a tour at the Air Force Academy, spent time with the leadership there. He got to see what cadet life was like. And he got to interact with the men and women that are the future leaders in the Air and Space Force. And he had great respect for them, said they were outstanding and impressive, wanted to ensure that any barriers to their character development and their education were eliminated. That was one thing. And he also took particular interest in the Cadet Chapel. It's a historic building. It was first finished in 1962. And he was disappointed to see, as are many people, and rightly so, the big white box that sits around the Cadet Chapel because it's under construction, there's a restoration project that's been underway for many years. And Charlie said, hey, I've just called the President. I've spoken with him a couple of times expressing the need to move out faster and get this restoration project done correctly, because we're going to have two generations of young cadets that come through this place and never get to experience or see their cadet chapel. And I appreciated that input, and the Air Force appreciated the input. Already thought that. But to see that there was extra attention. In fact, recently. Recently the president even put up a true social post about the chapel. He's paying attention, but the Air Force leadership is moving out with alacrity, trying to get that project done as quickly and as wisely as possible so that we can get our cadets one back in what is the symbol of the spiritual center there of the Air Force Academy. And also all the folks driving down Interstate 25 every day of the week that see just a white box and not the iconic chapel there. So that effort's going well. In fact, I recently took a trip out there to meet with a contractor and Air Force leadership who are in charge of that project to make sure that we get it right, move it left if possible, save as much money as possible moving forward. And I'm optimistic about those conversations, but Charlie cared about getting that right. And that was the last conversation I had about with him, was about that chapel.

[Jack Posobiec]

There's. There's so many touch points and so many fingers and so many pots that Charlie had. It's just incredible to hear that we're going to carry that out, and I. I know Charlie would really appreciate that. We'll be right back. Take a quick break here at Human Events Daily.

[Veterans Day Speaker / Narrator]

Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it. And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event, and we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.

[Jack Posobiec]

Amen. All right, Jack Posobic, we are back here, and we've been so excited and so blessed on this Veterans Day to have had the time to sit down with the undersecretary of the Air Force, Lieutenant Colonel Matthew Lohmire. He is the first veteran of the Space Force, and he's the author of the book Irresistible Revolution. And he's been telling us so much about his story and all of the things that he's been up to now, all the work that he's been doing, setting aside private life, coming back to government. Mr. Secretary, I just want to say how thankful I am that you were here with us on this Veterans Day. Do you have a final message for the veterans out there, the service members out there? Just as we go through this Veterans Day about. From the administration, from your position.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for having me on. Happy to spend time with you. I suppose my message would be thanks. I already mentioned that the first day I'd come back in to this position, I had an opportunity to sit and listen to the. In a classified setting, the work that our men and women in uniform do. Specifically, no spillage.

[Jack Posobiec]

No spillage.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

No spillage and no spillage. Here. I'm lock vault. But I think the only thing that there is to say on a day like this is thank you to the men and women in uniform. We've got a great administration. We've got a great secretary of War who's laser focused on the things that matter, and I'm focused on those things, too, and grateful for the opportunity to come on and thank them. And thank you for your time, Mr.

[Jack Posobiec]

Undersecretary.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

Thank you.

[Jack Posobiec]

Absolute honor. Thank you so much for joining us.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

Thanks, Jack.

[Jack Posobiec]

Folks, it's very rare when you get a situation like that. And I know that he's not able to talk about it in his official capacity, but we'll let you know that he is the subject of this new documentary that's just come out and it's over on Salem. Now, I want to give everyone an opportunity to go and check it out. It is called Call Sign Courage, and it'[e-mail] and it's an incredible. Just an incredible look, not just through his career, through his story, but also at the history of communism itself, the history of what communists have done all around the world. And in fact, guys, I mean, I'm just going to say it. Let's hit the trailer again because this thing was too good. What do you say? Do we have it lined up? Can we just hit the trailer again?

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

Being spied on, the chaplain snooping around my office and my house being broken into. Things like that don't happen on military bases. The man I'm Interviewing today has 1200.

[Jack Posobiec]

Hours of flying the T38, followed by the F15C.

[News Reporter]

Colonel Matthew Lomay.

[Jack Posobiec]

Matthew Loma. Matthew Lohmeyer. This is not just anybody we're talking about that served the military.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

Historically, we've been the best in the world because we've always cared about merit. And it's what made the American military the most lethal military on the planet.

[Jack Posobiec]

The entire military is preparing for a fight against China. President Xi is the most ideological leader that China's had since Chairman Mao. Mao said he doesn't need military. He has an army of indoctrinated kids. They asked me what my pronouns were.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

And I thought it was incredible to see that inclusion and change, we were starting to be divided by political discourse.

[Jack Posobiec]

I want to understand white rage and I'm white. That's what diversity, equity, inclusion is all about. Inclusion, equality are what's important. That's how we'll win our nation's wars. We are trained Marxists because of forces coming from Marxists within our own government. It becomes not a foreign threat, it becomes a domestic threat.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

The base commander was the ideologue who is pushing a particular political agenda. If you're white, you're part of the problem. The biggest terror threat in this country is white men.

[Jack Posobiec]

Violent white supremacy.

[Matthew Lohmeyer]

One of the greatest obstacles to the success of a Marxist revolutionary cause is a strong united military force. Someone needed to speak up.

[Jack Posobiec]

I mean, you look at this folks, you look at the history of the division and this is what Marxism does. Marxism comes in to divide. Marxism takes a stable situation, takes a stable group, takes a stable country, a stable military force, and it comes in and divides it, or should I say even a stable movement like the conservative movement. And they divide. They pit one side against another, they draw false binaries and they begin their attacks. This is the essence of Marxism. But people have to understand it is a Marxist tactic because then once the Marxist divides, the Marxist conquers. So we wrote about this in Non Humans last year. We were very clear about it. We said first they observe, then they orient, they decide, they act. And these are all stages of the revolution or the intelligence preparation of the environment, the ope, the operational preparation of the environment. And when they run through this, it's so obvious because you see them doing it again and again and again everywhere. It is their only tactic. And it's obviously what they were doing to our government, it's obviously what they were doing to our military, and it's obviously what they were doing with our administration. But I got to say something else. So yesterday was the two month anniversary of the murder of Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk was murdered by a violent leftist. We now know through the investigation, we know through leakers, we know from many others that this violent leftist was involved with the transsexual community, was involved with the furry community. And rather than focus on the violent left and these trans groups and these furry groups and this subculture, which by the way, if you go and look, we have the exclusive footage here on Human Events Daily that we can show you those provided to us by Turning Point frontlines of another antifa furry that was out there last night on The Berkeley campus. Now, people would say, posto. Why are you asking about that? Po. So why are you talking about this? This stuff is gross. This stuff is weird. Well, guess what? Guess what. Charlie Kirk is dead because of this stuff. Charlie Kirk was murdered because of this stuff. Erica. And those kids will not have their loving husband and father come home because of this stuff. So I'm sorry if you're a little bit grossed out. I'm sorry if you're a little bit uncomfortable when I talk about it. But guess what? To know the enemy, you must understand the enemy. And to defeat the enemy, you must know the enemy. It is as simple as that. And what do I see out across conservative media? Do I see people focused on this? Do I see people trying to understand the violent left? Do I see people trying to understand the Marxist revolution? That, by the way, let's just go down the scoreboard, all right? New York City just fell to Marxism. The state of Virginia just elected a violent Marxist who said that he wants to kill all of our children. 1.7 million people in Virginia. These liberals all voted for him, okay? And we're told to unite behind a guy like that. Unite with people like that. Who said 1.7 million, okay? So all this is happening. All this is happening. New York City, Virginia, Charlie Kirk's murder. And what do I see across the right, across the conservative movement? I see bickering. I see infighting. I see e drama. I say, oh, you got to argue with the comments. You got to look at this comment. I got to argue with it. I got to argue with that commenter. I got to argue with the Internet trolls. I got to argue with, you know, these people online. These people are mad online. I got to respond. No, no, you got to get your head on straight. We are in a war for Western civilization. The Patriots of the United States of America did not die, did not give their lives, did not sacrifice everything. Their families didn' sacrifice everything so that we could go down bickering and complaining instead of fighting back. It's time to fight back. So it's time to get your head on straight. It's time to lock in, and it's time to march forward. It's as simple as that. We have to get it going. Charlie deserved it. Charlie's family deserved it. Charlie's children deserve it. We will lose our country if the Patriots do not hold together. It's as simple as that. So on this Veterans Day, when we talk to the veterans, when you think about the veterans, think about yourself, too, and think about what you're doing to honor that which they fought for. The United States of America. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore. This is an I Heart podcast.