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Joshua Lysak
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President Trump is now urging House Republicans to vote to release the Jeffrey Epstein files, writing, quote, we have nothing to hide.
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They're using Jeffrey Epstein as a deflection from the tremendous success that we're having.
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A House vote is expected tomorrow.
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Jack Posobiec
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President Trump has directed a Justice Department probe into Epstein's ties to top Democrats, including former president, President Bill Clinton and major banks after a House panel released more than 20,000 documents from the estate of the deceased sex offender whom the president previously said he cut ties with years ago. Both Trump and Clinton have denied knowing of Epstein's crimes.
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The Federal Bureau of Investigation is pushing back after former Fox News host Tucker Carlson accused the bureau of lying about the gunman who tried to assassinate either US President Donald Trump in July 2024. Carlson suggested that the FBI hid evidence of Thomas Matthew Crooks's online activity. The FBI replied directly, saying it never stated that Crooks had no online footprint at all.
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Jack Posobiec
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard. Today's edition of Human Events Daily. We're here live in Washington D.C. we're figuring out the latest on political violence in America. Today is November 17, 2025. Anno Domini, folks. Massive, massive story out both this weekend, starting with the Tucker Carlson show and then this morning, incredible piece by Miranda Devine in the New York Post regarding the secrets of Trump's killer. And what we find here is a social media footprint that was not released to the public, that did not come out to the public, that was not made at the time to anyone. And if you go and look at the Daily Mail, their headline here that they pulled, very clear, Trump Shooter Thomas Crooks Disturbing Trans Furry Fetishes Revealed. Now here's what's interesting is what did we talk about all last week? Well, all last week we talked about the potential furry fetishes or what we know of the furry fetishes of Tyler Robinson, man who's alleged to be the killer. Charlie Kirk. So Trump's would be assassin appears to have used they them pronouns on a website known for hosting pornographic furry material linked to various accounts on a website called DeviantArt. The website hosts sexually explicit images of furries, human like animal characters. The accounts linked to Crooks used they them pronouns used by the trans community. And his activity suggests a high interest in cartoon characters with ripped male physiques and female heads. Folks, we have to talk about this and we have to be serious. How is it possible that two now two of the most high profile assassinations, one attempted, one completed in this country, coming within less than 18 months of each other, about one year of each other, both have ties to the same type of fetish as is reported here. This furry fetish, Dr. Chloe Carmichael wrote in and and we're going to have her on the show later on talking about this. She wrote that crooks fixation on hybrid male female body art and Robinson's trans obsessions both suggest a drift away from basic human grounding. It's no surprise that they're both interested in furries. It's just a further derailment of their concept of humanity. This dovetails with treating the special human gift of language as dangerous, believing that those who express disagreement threaten their existence. The entire mentality erodes respect for human life, creates irrational fear of ideological opponents and leaves them unwilling or unable to use words to navigate differences. So they default to violence instead. Now, I've got a piece up@humanvents.com I wrote a call it a flash op ed. You guys can go get that@humanvents.com right now, today and go read this because it's look, it's just, it's some of my thoughts that I put it down trying to understand how we got to this moment. And I said making beasts of men. Why are two high profile political assassins reportedly tied to the furry fetish? Folks, we need to understand this. We need to understand how young white men, their demonization and disposition in this country is driving towards more and more extreme sexual behavior, fetishes and yes, violence. We Write back human events.com Human Events Daily.
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This is Human Events with Jack Posovic. Now it's time for everyone to you understand what America first truly means. Welcome to the second American Revolution. Jack Posopic here Back live Human Events daily. Real America's voice Washington D.C. folks, did you know that in the last six weeks 86 million AT&T users had their name, address and Social Security numbers leaked? Or that the CCP is harvesting massive volumes of Americans personal data to train deep SEQ and other AI systems? When you're online doing the work like I am, you need digital camouflage. And that's why I partnered with our newest show sponsor, Patriot Protect. Patriot Protect removes your personal data from the Internet. Whether it's Google, Amazon or Apple, your personal data will be wiped so that scammers and cyber criminals and swatters like the ones who tried to come after the Poso family will not and cannot find your data and can take you back your security privacy. Once Patriot Protect scans and scrubs your personal information, they'll continuously monitor your info to make sure every new instance of a possible data breach is eliminated immediately. I'm talking 24. 7 protection for the cost. Keeping the porch lights on. The only thing worse than getting hacked is knowing you could have stopped it and didn't take action when you could have. So go to patriot-protect.com poso and use promo code POSO for 15% off a yearly subscription. That's patriot-protect.com poso & use promo code POSO for for 15% off a yearly subscription. Patriot-protect.com poso Folks, I want to get in and read a little bit more of this op ed that's up@humanvents.com I wrote it this morning. Kind of a flash piece. Jack Making beasts of men why are two high profile political assassins reportedly tied to the furry fetish? Crooks and Robinson both fit the profile perfectly. Socially isolated, downwardly mobile young might men from working class or middle class suburbs radicalized in the exact online spaces where economic resentment, racial grievance and sexual deviancy all converge. And these are two names that should haunt every parent, policymaker and patriot right now. Thomas, Matthew and guys, let's show, let's show the photos of them both. Thomas Matthew Crooks, the 20 year old who climbed onto a rooftop in Butler, Pennsylvania on July 13, 2024 and fired the shot. It came within inches of killing President Donald Trump. Then Tyler Robinson, the 22 year old who walked into an event at Utah Valley University and allegedly executed conservative activist Charlie Kirk in cold blood. When I went to the White House and talked about left wing violence, I talked about the profile of these individuals. I told the President of the United States himself that there is a profile, there is a pattern. We need to understand it. And I want to throw some facts out here. The crisis is not just young men. It's specifically young white men who have experienced the sharpest, most psychologically disorienting fall from grace in modern American history. And that precipitous drop is the single biggest driver of the online perversion to political violence pipeline. We're watching in real time. Go back to 1970. A white man with only a high school diploma had a 75 to 80% chance of earning more, inflation adjusted than than his father. By 2020, that number had collapsed to 50%, the worst intergenerational decline of any demographic group in the entire country. White men without college degrees saw their real wages fall 15% from 1979 to to 2022, while every other major major racial, gender or gender group held either steady or gained. The labor force participation rate for prime age white men 25 to 54 has cratered from 97% in 1960 to 88% today, the lowest of any racial group. Suicide rates, opioid deaths, deaths of despair are overwhelmingly concentrated among white working class males. And those are the same males that face same white males who face alienation from every elite university institution, corporate hr, university admissions, government contracting, policies that discriminate against them. Affirmative action, DEI hires Quote, unquote diversity hires and the endless media drumbeat that white men are the problem and tell them in a thousand ways that the system no longer has a place for them unless they apologize for existing. And you wonder why then they disassociate with reality. They disassociate from a system that hates them. And they find more and more association with radicalization, radical sexual behaviors online. We saw this before in a place 100 years ago called the Weimar Republic in Weimar Germany. Wanted to bring on someone who understands this and so much more is my co author from on the Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to Crush Them, Joshua Lysak. Joshua, how are you?
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Joshua Lysak
Well enough. Thank you for having me on, Jack.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, Joshua, we're working through some of these profiles. Obviously you and I wrote the very first book on the on Thomas Matthew Crook's Bulletproof, the Plot to Kill President Trump and the Untold Stories of this. Now we now have new information. I certainly hope, certainly expect we've got perhaps a second edition in store here. What do you make before we get into my analysis, what do you make of the new information that links Thomas Matthew Crooks with gender ideology, with perhaps the furry fetish as well?
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Joshua Lysak
Well, with this furry business, it's not surprising because making men of beasts, that's dehumanizing, that's to use another verb, unhumaning of an individual, taking the soul of a human being and equating it to the sexual activity of literally animals, a sort of quasi bestiality type of shenanigans over there. I don't think we could have picked a better title for this sort of far left wing aligned ideology and behavior. Because when you, when you state that there's nothing special about humans, human beings, the soul, which is part and parcel with left wing ideology, far left wing tends to be extraordinarily atheistic and its rejection of all things metaphysical, spiritual and makes an all powerful government effectively a stand in for God. The philosophical downstream of that practically is we're not special, we're just animals, so we should just act like it. And this is a warped, bizarre sort of turbo maxed version of that far left wing ideology that inhumans an individual with the furry and the gender sort of thing. Because if there's nothing, let's say transcendent about the male and the female and male and female, he created them. If you completely reject that ideology or that sort of origin story of humanity, then you can just be whatever you want. And I have observed this in individuals in my own life and this is where that racial resentment gets into the picture. Jack. I have seen kids go from being, you know, straight white male to begin to fall in with the gender crowd, let's say the gender bending crowd, transvestites, and with the self hating language about how awful white people are. White people are so oppressive and we're like worse than animals. I have heard that expression used to refer to specifically young white men, like animals are worse than animals. That sort of unhumaning animalization of them. It's the opposite of anthropomorphizing, actually, which is a word where you, you kind of describe animals like, like people in a certain way. It's doing the opposite. Unhuman works as the verb here. And they go from being straight white males to being openly bisexual or to being homosexual. And then you start seeing makeup and you start seeing nails, you start seeing other accessories. And I've seen individuals go from being straight white males with not a whole lot of economic prospects, spending all their time on Reddit or these other websites disassociating from friends and family, being 20, 21, 22, 23 years old, still living in mom and dad's house, not having a lot of career prospects, and then one day announcing that you're going dress shopping and you go by she her pronouns or by they them pronouns. And I have seen this directly start with left wing, anti white, anti male rhetoric that they got from the public school system.
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Jack Posobiec
And so when we look at all this together, right, and when you and I wrote the book on humans, you know, we talked about it because we saw there was this disassociation with humanity. And in fact what we urged was for people to try to rebuild as best they could that connection with humanity. But what I've said, of course will be said in the book, and I went on Fox with Friends this weekend and said it as well, that all of this is downstream of economic conditions. It is economic conditions that drive this now, whether that be inflation, whether it be mass immigration, it's all of it. It's all of it put together. So you create this cesspool, then you add in the transgenderism, then you add in the anti white hatred and it creates this toxic soup whereby in these young white men, in these areas particularly, and in these cases, both gifted young white men then turn to extreme behaviors and then eventually extreme behavior actions because they feel that there is no hope for them in the rest of society, in the rest of the system.
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Joshua Lysak
Yes, and it's an explicitly anti Christian religion. When you describe it that way where it's. It's like wearing the Christian skin suit, let's say, or that shell, or that template where you have original sin of being a straight white male. Each of those are three intersectional points against you. You're way on down the priority list at this point. You have grievous sins in your nature. And only way to redeem yourself is to undo each of those as much as you can. So you have to become not straight. You have to engage in other kinds of behaviors. And if it's. If it's not quite possible to not be a white male, or at least white, well, then what can you do? Okay, well, you can become a different whole species.
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Jack Posobiec
So not only becoming a specific transing your gender, you're even going beyond transing your gender. You're transing your entire species. But deep down, deep down, they know it's not true. Deep down, they know, as they all know, that a man cannot become a woman. And then the next piece of that is a man cannot become an animal and vice versa. No matter how much you want it to be true. No matter how much your pathology, no matter how much your psychotic break with reality drives you to want it to be true, it cannot. And so your forcefulness of trying to make that false reality comport with actual reality drives the psychotic split right back. Jack Posic, Joshua Lyk. More Real America's Voice. Human events daily. Dude, this new bacon, egg and chicken biscuit from AM PM Total winner. Winner, chicken breakfast. Chicken breakfast? Come on. I think you mean chicken dinner, bro.
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Jack Posobiec
All right, Jack Krasovic, we're back. Live human events daily Real America's Voice. We're here talking with Joshua Lysak about these new refere revelations about Thomas Matthew Crooks, the young man who attempted to kill President Trump last year at a Butler rally, July 2024. And the eerie similarities, perhaps even connections, to the case of Tyler Robinson, the man who allegedly killed Charlie Kirk in September 2025 in Utah. And both clearly dispossessed young white men Highly intelligent, prone to violence, but also disturbingly reportedly tied to the sexually deviant furry fetish. Joshua Lysak, co author of Unhumans and Bulletproof, the first book about Thomas Matthew Crooks, is our guest. Joshua when we look at these cases, the sexual deviancy, the effect of pornography, and overuse of pornography, walk us through how that leads potentially towards the hypnotic effects, if you will.
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Joshua Lysak
Yes, this is where I take the nonfiction book ghostwriter and author's cap off, and I put on my certified professional hypnotist hat on. I have some training and background and working on that. And what you learn in the hypnosis profession is that the subconscious mind, also called the unconscious mind, doesn't necessarily understand the difference between the real and the simulated. So whenever you're visualizing something, perhaps you are seeing it in your mind's eye, so to speak. The brain as it's processing that equates that with something real that's being really seen. That's why visualization of hypes up a professional athlete. Before they go out in the game, their brain thinks it's actually happening. And so they physiologically, hormonally, biochemically, energetically respond to that. It's why. And people don't believe this, but yet there's literature on this, that visualizing weightlifting causes your muscle fibers to act and respond as if you've actually lifted weights. And that effect, we see with other things. So when someone is engaging in use of pornography, what their subconscious mind thinks is, oh, this situation is actually happening. The subconscious mind doesn't know about videos. They don't know about. It doesn't know about live streaming. It doesn't know about any kind of technology. If it sees it, it thinks it's real. And so as one engages in, let's say, use of pornography of a particular genre maker kind, the brain and the body of the person thinks, oh, because I'm being forcibly aroused to this material, I must like it, I must respond to it. It must be really happening to me and I must like it. So the brain thinks it's actually happening, the subconscious mind. And so then it adjusts to say, okay, well, give me more of that, give me more of that. That's where pornography as an addiction is a little bit different from substance abuse. Because it's not necessarily that you need more and more of the drug of choice in order to get the same dopamine or serotonin or oxytocin release that you'd experienced before. It more so is retraining your brain, your Sexuality, let's say, to respond to that particular stimulus. So this particular habit, it is forcibly arousing oneself to this particular depiction, which again, the subconscious unconscious brain thinks is really happening in real life. Oh, I'm being aroused by this, therefore I must have a taste for it. That's pornography works to create this sort of weird, we would call weird or let's say deviant behaviors.
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Jack Posobiec
Well, and it creates this, this need also, I suppose the need for like when people, when people are drugged users, they're always searching for a bigger high or a recreation of their initial high. So this. Then on the pornography side, they'd be looking for more and more extreme or more and more unique, different types of content. Now I also wanted to throw on top of that. Now let's say for example, that the government tells you that you are not allowed to go outside, that your job is closing down, that you need to shut down, your school is closed down and you are now going to spend your formative years stuck inside your house and you're not allowed to leave. And again, the government tells you that if you do, there is a virus outside that will kill you and your entire family. What do you suppose that does to certain people that are going through. We talked about the economic conditions where you're going through some of these pornographic behaviors and the confluence with social media and the Internet. Now add the. The stress of lockdowns and taking away those formative years in high school which, which both of these individuals would have gone through.
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Joshua Lysak
Digital sexuality became mainstreamed during the COVID lockdown experience where this sort of behavior, rather than being something that is, let's say, fringe or is uncool, let's say it, it became normalized. So normalized to the point that as we write in the. The Bulletproof book here, the last Internet search of Thomas Matthew Crook's life was for pornography and the minutes leading up to the assassination attempt and the murder, murder of Corey Comparatori. Of course in the.
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Jack Posobiec
We have reported that. So we had reported on this link between the sexual nature of crooks as well as his lethal and violent actions. Corey Compature, President Trump and you know they always call him would be assassin, certainly the murder of Corey Campatori as well. We had reported on that. We still to this day don't actually know the specific content that he was searching for though, do we?
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Joshua Lysak
Not yet. Not yet. We can put it at that. As hopefully as more questions are being asked, we will be able to find more answers. And that was one of the difficulties of the book and we were honest about that. It's less a book of answers and more so a book of the questions that need to be asked and the information we have on the context of each of them so far and what readers have shared with us, of course is it's more complete than anything any senate or house committee or subcommittee has released. This book that we wrote in just a matter of weeks before the election.
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Jack Posobiec
Thomas Matthew Crooks would have been 16 years old in 2024. Tyler Robinson would have been about 16 or 17 high schoolers. This is what happened. This is what happened in real life. The lockdowns, the psychological breaks, the downward mobility. It created a pressure cooker and pressure cookers explode right back. Jack Posobic, Joshua Lysack Kim at Events Daily.
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Jack Krasovic
Where's Jack? Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack.
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Jack Posobiec
Thank you.
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Jack Krasovic
What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys and these are the guys who be getting bullishers.
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Jack Posobiec
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Joshua Lysak
Both of them seem to be of that same type where they otherwise in any era would have had fantastic economic opportunities. And this is, this is the point of the populist right of maga. It all comes back to economics and economic opportunities for young people. Without viable economic opportunities for all, we were going to have a bad time. And so what we're discussing right now, as it is in most societies where far left wing ideologies take over, it's typically downstream of a lack of economic opportunities for the masses to be upwardly mobile. And that lack of, that for both of these individuals seems to be a real similarity and of course a concern. So we want to talk about the upstream and downstream consequences within this. But both of them, of course, being a certain age, both of them being right about the same time when social distancing resulted in what antisocial behaviors. And of course with this furry porn simulator and creating video games out of it and having these, let's say odd digital sexuality type of behaviors, being chronically online or terminally online Being, let's say a person of Reddit, for example, which is a forum that's known for some of this, let's say, deviant kind of behavior and encouraging it and grooming it, let's say, say is an accusation we hear quite often. The antisocializing behaviors here became kind of normalized to these young minds where they live on the Internet and thinking about, fantasizing about, let's say, illegal activities like bestiality, obviously assassinations. Both were aware of both Tyler and Thomas having searched and discussed and talked and shared their views on some of these matters. And of course, it's so bizarre to have a peep at the mainstream media. And we even to this day see headlines like Motive unknown. We will just never know the motive. And are you kidding? Are you not paying attention to what's going on here? Both of them were able and capable of shooting a firearm, which of course is part and parcel of being in middle America or lower middle class. Firearms, of course, are ubiquitous in the United States. And when we think about so many teenage school shooters over the years, we do see some similarities here with some obsession in otherwise deviant behavior or an antisocial behavior. They tend to be very, very smart. And this is where there's real concern that comes back to economic populism. You have these kids missing and bright, yet the opportunities aren't, aren't available to them.
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Jack Posobiec
Joshua, want to throw out that Cambridge University did a study in 2005 highlighting a link between bestiality, zoophilia and associations with violence and sex offending. And just from their abstract, bestiality is a subject that it usually evokes strong emotional reactions such as abhorrence, disgust and ridicule. During the past few decades, it's gained more interest from animal protection workers and research in the field of interpersonal violence and sex offending. Now, we already know about the research, the documented link between animal abuse and violence, violence against other humans. But what they're also talking about here is this, this role of. Now, obviously that's an extreme example of bestiality, but you, you can't really change. You can't, you certainly can't separate this prevalence of online furry pornography from these same types of links. Again, this is from Cambridge University 20 years ago. We're documenting the heightened propensity for violence in people who exhibit these behaviors.
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Joshua Lysak
Yes, this comes back to the unhumans template that we've talked about in the book and in our works and our interviews and publications and whatnot over the last 250 years. What left wing organizers and agitators, whether they're forming an actual communist movement or they want to trigger people to engage in far left wing revolutionary violence like what we've seen in the past few weeks, months and years, they will, to quote Steve Saylor, they will build a coalition of the fringes. And whether it's 18th century France or Haiti, or it's late 19th century, early 20th century imperial Russia, or it's mid late 20th century Cambodia, or it's the 2000 and 20s, on the Internet, what is a fringe activity there you will find left wing agitators, you'll find left wing political viewpoints, you'll find left wing rhetoric, you'll find left wing suggestions, to use a word from hypnosis, suggesting the names of individuals that they hate oh so much suggesting, wouldn't it be awful if something bad happened to them? Wink, wink, suggesting. This is typical language. It's just now that we have the Internet, so it's, it's ubiquitous now, this antisocial behavior in, in times past. And this is how the communist revolutionary model has changed via transportation, telecommunications and in the Internet. Now we have, and we hypothesize this in the book, we have witnessed an irregular communist revolution since the 1950s in the United States where it's been happening on simmer, so to speak, just below the level of open revolutionary violence. So institutions have been infiltrated, groups, forums, communities, anything that can have a left wing agitator in it unfortunately does at this point. And it's even in many churches as good patriotic Americans are realizing every Sunday morning.
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Jack Posobiec
And it's just so much to look at, so many questions that we have to figure out. But at the same time I just going to keep bringing it back and I want to talk about this when we get to our next segment that I keep wanting to bring it back. It all comes back to economy and immigration. It really does. Because when economic conditions are positive, you just don't see this type of behavior. And when you do, it is isolated, it is small, it is not prevalent, it is economic conditions that drive this behavior. Immigration of course, is a downward pressure on economic conditions or middle class or working class societies throughout this country. And you can't disconnect it, you just can't. The deviant sexual behavior, the violent tendencies associated with that and the downwardly mobile white men, specifically young white men who went through the COVID experience and then were told on the other end that what do you get? Nothing. There's nothing for you. Well guess what, what does it drive People to do. Apparently some of these cases, it drove them to kill right back.
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Jack Krasovic
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Jack Posobiec
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Jack Krasovic
And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event. And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.
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Jack Posobiec
Amen. All right, Jack Krasovic, we're back live here, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice. We are in Washington D.C. we're going through these disturbing similarities, eerie similarities between Thomas Matthew Crooks online social media footprint as well as Tyler Robinson's. From what we knew, the furry overlap, the furry behavior, the fact that each of these individuals seem to be involved in some way, in some strange way with this behavior. Joshua Lyk is our guest. Joshua, you and I wrote the. And Joshua, I'm going have to say it, man. We wrote on humans and Bulletproof last year. I think. I think we need to start working on second editions. What do you think we should at least get audiobooks and ebooks out as soon as we can?
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Joshua Lysak
I think so, yes. Yes. There's so much that has occurred. Some of the initial, the say, critical review of Unhuman specifically was that it was extreme and hyperbolic. And now those same people are apologizing to us and saying this content, it turns out, was. It wasn't extreme and hyperbolic. It was just right and prophetic. I'm sorry.
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Jack Posobiec
Yeah, well, you have, you have Steve Bannon goes to jail the week the book came out. Then ten days after the book came out, Donald Trump gets shot at a political rally. Corey Carpentore gets murdered. And then about a year, year and change after Charlie Kirk gets assassinated at a rally in Utah. And then they come back and they say, oh, and we also had the Luigi Mangione experience, which happened in New York City, followed up by the election of Zoram Mandani, who wins an election in New York City predicated on what. Oh, that's right. A coalition of the fringes and economic conditions. Joshua, you know, it's. It's almost like. It's almost like. It's almost like this is what they.
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Joshua Lysak
Do every single time. And this is, this is where, when we think about, okay, what, what can be done about this, what ought to be done, short, medium, long term, this is where we will. At least I will part with our libertarian friends and I will become a nationalist. And a nationalist is somebody who believes that we are a nation, populist of people, that they. The two go together. I'm Borrowing Steve Bannon's own language of nationalist populism, we are a nation of people, and in a paternal sense, we gotta take care of these citizens and letting everyone fend for themselves, so to speak, that's not gonna cut it because when that happens, you get antisocial behaviors, you get digital sexuality, you get people taking potshots from the roof at public figures because in their personal lives the outlook is not so great. How do you head that off from the start? You head that off with maximizing of economic opportunities for our own citizenry, our young people in middle America in B tier and C tier and below cities having policies of hope, putting citizens first, a little bit of Teddy Roosevelt progressivism. We can go back and recall that. And that's why I appreciate that eras tariffs coming back under Donald J. Trump. And we do need more of that. What we don't need are more H1BS and immigrants first type of policy in this country. And the, and the irony is left wing and right wing economic populism rhymes a little bit from the perspective on, on race. And, and generally speaking, the left is all but officially anti white. Well, we would say to them, okay, you say, you know, those white people are so awful. Yeah, but white people are the vast majority of the country. Do you want the vast majority of male white people to be a personal threat to you that anyone could develop a fetish and pop off? No, you do not want to live in that kind of society. And then to the right, do we want to say to the right, do you want to live in a society where that same thing can happen? Because that kid, despite having an IQ of whatever, basically well into the three digits, they can't find a viable economic path for themselves to have whatever the 21st century American dream equivalent. For most people, it's not the white picket fence and the town home and the two and a half kids and the one and a half pets anymore. It's new and it's changed. And yet there is a dream in the heart of every American. And if there is not a path to achieve that success, they will achieve success on a very different path to a very different destination. And oftentimes that destination is Utah Valley University or Butler, Pennsylvania.
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Jack Posobiec
Right. And there's a lot of people who want to say, you know, that, oh, it's all just the Internet. It's all just the Internet. But I actually would argue back and say that it's the. Yes, the Internet could present these ideas, but there's also ideas have virality and have an ability to transmit themselves throughout every society. And when we wrote on humans 1790s France, there's no Internet, there's no discord servers, there were no video games. But there were these ideas and I was about to say, by the way, that the transcendent writers perhaps could be the trans writers of their time, if you will. Joshua Haha. Oh, I did it. That's right. Take that Walden. And, and so sorry Thoreau. And, and so you, you've taken this, this and the same with like Mao, you know, Maoist China or Czarist Russia. There's no Internet tied here. It's, it's the break with reality. Whatever fills that break is, you know, it doesn't, is, is, it doesn't necessarily matter as much. And so what you need is to create the conditions for a stable society. You keep your stable society going or the brain rot it through whatever vector will come in and will penetrate because if you don't provide that off ramp for people. And so I did, you know, sit down with Fox and Friends on Sunday morning and this is what I talked about. I said guys, it's not just the GDP in the stock market. You have to look at the economic conditions of the people. What are the economic conditions? What is the cost of living? I care a lot more about the, the people of this country care a lot more about the turkey that's going to be on their table than they do about the turkey that's 5,000 miles away.
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Joshua Lysak
Joshua Liesnick and also the stock price of Tyson Foods or Morningstar, although they're part of Tyson. But you get, you get the idea, right? This sort of abstractions, well, the economic is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. No, we have become one nation under GDP and we got exactly what we bargained for. Unfortunately, where the economy from the perspective of shareholders and the asset owning elite, those became it. The kind of economy I want is where a family can go on family vacation, whether it's on the holidays or in summertime, they can go to a nice restaurant, the husband, the wife, the two or three kids, they can go to that nice restaurant and without stress, they can pull up the menu, order as they please and not fret over the prices of the items on the menu, much less the cost of the vacation for the family.
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Jack Posobiec
And what this does is. And what this does, right? And by the way, another country that didn't have the Internet, Weimar Germany. And so when we, when we look at all of the, we know what the Weimar Germany had a ton of sexual degeneracy. There's no question about it.
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Joshua Lysak
And hyperinflation, economic crisis and deviancy.
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Jack Posobiec
Deviancy. It goes absolutely together. So what do we see as the way forward? The way forward is when you have economic stability, when you have an economic path forward for the people. They're not interested in the fake stuff. They're not interested in fake reality. They're interested in reality itself. And you, dear listener, whether you're in the White House or you're in the Big House or whether you're in the Capitol or wherever you're just, or if you're just out there mowing the lawn today or raking leaves, getting ready for Thanksgiving, we must create stable society where the next generation, where they will rise up and kill us all.
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Joshua Lysak
Joshua Lysik Economy and immigration. Economy and immigration. Economy and immigration. These two issues. This is the right. This is the past, the present and the future of the right. These are the issues that the right can win on. Not these time wasting ethnic grievance, let's say detours, where there's infighting or who had who and what podcasts and who said what kind of teeny bopper high school caddy games a complete waste of time. What is it going to take to get the price of turkey down?
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Jack Posobiec
Give him a follow, folks. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay. This is an I heart podcast.