Podcast Summary: Human Events with Jack Posobiec, November 17th, 2025
Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Jack Posobiec
Date: November 17, 2025
Main Theme & Purpose
This episode of Human Events delves deeply into the disturbing parallels between two recent high-profile acts of political violence: the 2024 attempted assassination of Donald Trump by Thomas Matthew Crooks and the 2025 murder of Charlie Kirk by Tyler Robinson. Jack Posobiec, joined by co-author Joshua Lysak, examines the so-called "unhumaning" of young, downwardly mobile white men—exploring the confluence of online sexual deviancy (notably the "furry fetish"), gender ideology, and economic alienation as drivers of radicalization and violence. The episode situates these phenomena within broader social, economic, and historical contexts, stressing the urgency of national strategies to address alienation and restore hope and stability.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Operation Southern Spear & Current Events – (01:07)
- Reference to major US military buildup in the Caribbean.
- Update on "Operation Home for the Holidays," the largest child recovery operation in US history, and Trump's push for releasing the Epstein files.
- Political tension around the transparency of the Epstein investigations and alleged diversion tactics.
2. Assassination Attempts, Online Footprints & Mainstream Media – (03:06)
- The episode’s central topic arises: the underreported online activity and sexual deviance of Trump's attempted assassin, Thomas Matthew Crooks, and alleged Kirk murderer Tyler Robinson.
- Discussion of the "furry" fetish, trans pronouns, and deviant online communities as factors in both young men's radicalization.
"How is it possible that now two of the most high profile assassinations, one attempted, one completed—both have ties to the same type of fetish?"
— Jack Posobiec [06:45]
3. Societal Roots: Economic Decline, Alienation, and "Unhumaning" – (08:08, 13:04, 13:40)
- Jack Posobiec explains "making beasts of men"—how alienation of young white men in a system that offers them diminishing economic opportunity fosters anti-social and deviant online culture.
- Joshua Lysak expands on the spiritual and philosophical vacuum among these men, intensified by left-wing and anti-white rhetoric, and exposure to radical online spaces.
"It's not just young men. It's specifically young white men who have experienced the sharpest, most psychologically disorienting fall from grace in modern American history..."
— Jack Posobiec [11:27]
- Lysak on "unhumaning" and how leftist ideologies strip young men of humanity, leading to extreme identity shifts and fetishism.
"Making men of beasts—that's dehumanizing... It's like, if there's nothing special about humans, then we're just animals, so we should just act like it."
— Joshua Lysak [13:47]
4. Pandemic, Pornography, and Socialization Breakdown – (22:01, 24:57, 26:04)
- Exploration of "digital sexuality" and how the COVID-19 lockdowns trapped young men online, accelerating exposure to extreme online pornography and deviant communities.
- Lysak provides insight into the psychological effects of online porn, likening repeated exposure to simulated stimuli as real experiences for the subconscious, rewiring sexual preferences and compulsions.
"Digital sexuality became mainstreamed during the COVID lockdown experience... The subconscious mind doesn't understand the difference between the real and the simulated."
— Joshua Lysak [26:04, 22:01]
- The hosts draw a connection between enforced isolation, economic hopelessness, and the eruption of deviant, and eventually violent, behaviors.
5. Profiles of Crooks and Robinson: Parallels and Patterns – (28:45, 31:59, 34:58)
- Reiteration that both perpetrators were isolated, highly intelligent, downwardly-mobile white males radicalized online, suffering from lack of viable economic future.
- Both involved in online communities focused on the furry fetish; both had troubled romantic/sexual dynamics closely tied to digital platforms.
"The antisocializing behaviors became kind of normalized to these young minds where they live on the Internet and thinking about, fantasizing about, let's say, illegal activities like bestiality, obviously assassinations."
— Joshua Lysak [33:16]
6. Historical and Ideological Context: Revolutions and the 'Coalition of Fringes' – (36:04, 41:04)
- Drawing on themes from their book Unhumans, Lysak and Posobiec connect modern revolutionary violence to tactics used in historical communist revolutions—uniting societal "fringes" in times of economic turmoil.
- Lysak describes how online spaces accelerate the ability for deviant or radical ideas to spread, but emphasizes that "breaks from reality" and violent deviation have always recurred in times of economic and social collapse—even before the Internet.
7. Policy & Prescriptions: The Role of Economy and Immigration – (38:18, 41:45, 44:43, 46:35)
- Both hosts repeatedly return to economic grievances as the underlying driver of antisocial and violent behaviors in young men.
- Forward-looking segments propose a revival of economic populism, protectionist policies, and proactive care of “our own citizenry,” specifically citing tariffs and limitations on immigration and foreign worker programs.
- Lysak: "We must create a stable society for the next generation, or they will rise up and kill us all." [47:56, 48:37]
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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"We're not alleging any direct connections, but some of the similarities... Both seem to be of that same type where they would have had fantastic economic opportunities in any era... It all comes back to economics."
— Joshua Lysak [31:59] -
"It’s almost like… this is what they do every single time..."
— Jack Posobiec on historical patterns of revolutionary violence [41:45] -
"How do you head this off from the start? You maximize economic opportunities for our own citizenry, our young people in middle America in B-tier and C-tier and below cities. Policies of hope, putting citizens first..."
— Joshua Lysak [42:53] -
"When you have economic stability, when you have an economic path forward for the people, they’re not interested in the fake stuff... They’re interested in reality itself."
— Jack Posobiec [47:56]
Important Timestamps
- 01:07 — Coverage of Operation Southern Spear and US military buildup.
- 03:06 — Introduction to episode's main topic: new revelations on Trump/Kirk assassins’ online lives.
- 06:45 — Posobiec: questioning the bizarre overlap of fetish communities and political violence.
- 08:08 — Op-ed excerpt on making "beasts of men" and white male alienation.
- 13:01–19:01 — Joshua Lysak joins for discussion of spiritual, societal, and identity breakdowns.
- 22:01–26:45 — Detailed exploration of pornography’s psychological effects and pandemic impacts.
- 28:45–34:58 — Parallel analysis of Crooks & Robinson: profiles, economic conditions, and online radicalization.
- 36:04–38:18 — Historical comparisons to communist revolutions and the “coalition of fringes.”
- 41:45–44:43 — Policy proposals; calls for nationalist-populist responses vs. libertarian or left-leaning solutions.
- 46:35–49:09 — Economic stability as foundation for social and mental stability; prescriptions for American renewal.
Flow & Tone
- The conversation is insistent, analytical, and often passionate, adopting a distinctly "America First" and anti-elite tone.
- Both hosts make use of direct, sometimes provocative, language ("beasts of men," "unhumaning," "coaltition of the fringes") intended to challenge mainstream narratives.
- Although highly opinionated and polemical, the episode maintains a steady thread of concern for root societal and economic causes as drivers of violence and radicalization.
Summary for New Listeners
This episode is a deep dive into the under-reported connections between sexual deviancy, online radicalization, and acts of political violence by disaffected young white men. Drawing on breaking news, personal analysis, and historical context, Jack Posobiec and Joshua Lysak argue that a collapse in economic opportunity, combined with cultural and digital alienation, has created a dangerous pipeline from deviant online subcultures to headline-making violence. The solution, they contend, lies not in censorship or scapegoating, but in bold economic nationalism and the restoration of shared stability and hope for America’s youth.