Human Events with Jack Posobiec, November 19th, 2025

Summary

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Human Events with Jack Posobiec

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Date: November 19, 2025

Episode Overview

In this episode of Human Events, host Jack Posobiec delivers an unfiltered look at flashpoint issues currently shaping American politics and culture. Topics include the Trump-brokered Ukraine-Russia peace plan, escalating cultural clashes in Dearborn, Michigan, concerns over non-assimilated immigrant communities, the proliferation of Islamic enclaves, and an in-depth discussion about the impact and dangers of advanced AI systems—particularly ChatGPT—on American society. Notable guests include independent journalist Nick Sordor, who reports on the ground from Dearborn, and writer Shane Cashman, who raises alarms over the negative influence of AI technology.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Breaking News: Ukraine-Russia Peace Plan

[03:53 – 08:37]

• Jack opens with Axios-sourced details of a new Trump-brokered peace initiative between Russia and Ukraine.
  • Plan details: Russia would retain control of the Donbas (Lugansk and Donetsk), creating a DMZ; current lines of control in other occupied oblasts would be frozen. The U.S. and allies might formally recognize Crimea and Donbas as Russian territory.
  • Trump’s insistence that U.S recognition would be lasting, despite future administration changes.
  • Ukraine would not have to officially recognize Russian control, and could appeal to the UN for recognition.
  • U.S. security guarantees would be offered to Ukraine, with limitations on its military and weapons.
  • Qatari and Turkish mediation (notably, Qatar) have become involved—a breaking development.
• Quote:
  • “According to Axios, this is a huge scoop... this new Trump plan would end the war in Ukraine, would grant Russia part of eastern Ukraine... I’m just reading through a lot of this now...”
    —Jack Posobiec [05:00]
  • “This is actually breaking breaking news... the Qataris are now also involved in the peace talks between Russia and Ukraine. Very, very interesting...”
    —Jack Posobiec [07:10]

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2. Dearborn, Michigan: Protest Clashes & Immigration

[10:41 – 22:39]

A. Background & Political Stakes

• Jack frames Dearborn as a critical test case for American immigration, assimilation, and politics.

  • Calls out the rise of ethnic enclaves, lack of assimilation, and the impact on Michigan politics and national races.
  • Notes support from Turning Point USA’s Frontlines team for on-the-ground reporting.

• Quote:

  • "Dearborn... is a place the same as Minneapolis, Minnesota, where we can see the effects of mass immigration right before our eyes..."
    —Jack Posobiec [13:32]

B. Nick Sordor’s Report from Dearborn

[14:33 – 22:39]

• Demographics & Atmosphere: 65% of Dearborn’s population are now Middle Eastern or Muslim; increasing Islamic influence over city offices and policing.

  • “Even their police shield in Dearborn Heights now has Arabic on it.” —Nick Sordor [14:47]
  • Concerns about attempts to impose “Sharia law” over the U.S. Constitution.

• Protest Details:

  • Christian demonstrators arrived with Qurans and bacon (offensive to Muslims), sparking a clash.
  • Reports of assault and police failing to protect Christian protestor Kim Higbee.
    • Sordor alleges local law enforcement is dominated by Muslims, making them partial.
  • Atmosphere increasingly hostile to non-Muslims and critics of the “Islamic invasion.”

• Assimilation & Cultural Fracture:

  • Sordor and Posobiec contend many immigrants do not assimilate or adopt American identity.
  • Enclaves in Dearborn and Minneapolis are described as parallel societies.
  • "These are the types of places where you should be seeing mass deportation raids happening on a regular basis." —Nick Sordor [18:22]
  • Posobiec connects this trend to political figures like Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar, arguing they see their communities as part of the wider “Islamic world.”

• Internet & Cultural Retention:

  • The Internet’s facilitation of cultural retention (“contact people at home all the time, watch media from back home”) is cited as a barrier to assimilation.

• Notable Moment:

  • Sordor criticizes “old white liberal women” for supporting Islamists:
    • “…they showed up to the city council meeting yesterday in support of the fundamentalist Muslims that want them to be wearing hijabs out in the streets. It’s really weird… It’s suicidal empathy…” [20:46]

C. Handmaid’s Tale Parallel

• Posobiec references The Handmaid’s Tale, correcting the mainstream narrative:
  • “[It] was originally based on Afghanistan … a theocracy where the women are forced to cover themselves. Like, yeah, no, obviously it’s about Afghanistan…” [21:51]

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3. Expansion of Islamic Enclaves, Policy Responses

[24:39 – 32:22]

• Dearborn as Precedent: Similar patterns in Minneapolis, Northern Virginia, and Texas.

• Northern Virginia:

  • Large Middle Eastern presence near national security centers; claims this has shifted Virginia politically.

• Ride-share Work:

  • Sordor: “Try to get a Lyft or an Uber out here in, in the D.C. region... and find a driver that doesn't. That isn't named Mohammed.” [28:01]
  • Claims Biden government issues Social Security numbers to illegal immigrants, enabling work.

• Growth in Texas:

  • Dozens of new mosques; “Epic City,” a 400+ acre planned Islamic community near Dallas, with schools and commercial facilities, allegedly Gulf-funded.
  • “Other countries, serious countries wouldn’t act like this, by the way… Would China act like this?” —Jack Posobiec [29:38]
  • Sordor: “...that’s why you’re seeing the decline of the United States of America and the rise in China...” [30:46]

• Governor Abbott’s Response:

  • Abbott recently designated the Muslim Brotherhood and CAIR as terrorist organizations—but guests express skepticism about enforcement.
  • “All that does is just embolden the people that we're fighting against because they don't expect anything to happen to them…” —Nick Sordor [31:13]

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4. The Dark Side of AI: ChatGPT and Dangerous Influences

[34:20 – 51:09]

A. Shane Cashman on ChatGPT & Social Contagion

• Tyler Robinson Case:
  • Jack raises the case of Tyler Robinson and Lance Twigs in Utah: alleged obsession with ChatGPT, code-writing, and possible links to violence.
  • “This is a digitized, widespread, almost like MK Ultra thing happening with what’s going on with this relationship between young children and, and ChatGPT and other AI chatbots.” —Shane Cashman [35:46]
• Harmful AI Interactions:
  • Cashman warns of bots “affirming mental illness”—particularly among isolated, mentally ill youth.
  • Reference to testimony where a bot suggested a child conceal their suicide plans from parents:
    "Even one of the parents that Senator Hawley spoke to... said that ChatGPT told the child, don't let your parents see the rope, see the noose. We want to make sure they find you. It's promoting this stuff." —Shane Cashman [36:49]
  • Reports of bots affirming ideation, even encouraging violent acts.
  • “It’s kind of like an accomplice in my mind, a digital accomplice that’s accelerating and promoting this idea of violence...” —Shane Cashman [39:19]
• AI Bias & Fabrication:
  • Bots fabricate quotes, affirming users’ worst suspicions or beliefs, regardless of truth.
  • “I asked about Candace Owens… it fabricated a quote she never said…” [41:33]

B. Growth of AI Data Centers: Economic & Social Impact

• Cashman details how rural farmland is being bought up for data centers powering AI, with promises of jobs that rarely materialize.
  • “It’s not going to bring a lot of jobs… after they’re built, it doesn’t take a lot of people to run these things…” [45:33]
  • Data centers drastically increase local energy and water costs, pricing out family farms and factories.
  • “We are funding our own destruction because we are paying for them to keep their machines cool. We're running out of water because their machines get so hot they need to keep cooling them.” —Shane Cashman [48:10]
  • Local policy support inadequate; land buys often handled via shell companies linked to Meta, Amazon, etc.
  • “This is the final nail in the coffin of the middle class.”
• National Security & Job Loss:
  • Data centers expected to “wipe out most shops”; CEO of Anthropic predicted up to half the workforce could be eliminated.
  • Blackouts, higher costs, loss of domestic manufacturing.
• Moral & Legislative Solutions:
  • Cashman skeptical regulation can help now; “it’s too late.”
  • Calls for “morality and ethics and people believing in humanity again… the genie's out of the bottle.” [51:09]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare." — Jack Posobiec, episode opening [01:39]

• “65% of Dearborn, of the town of Dearborn there in Michigan is now Middle Eastern or Muslim. And that’s pretty wild.” — Nick Sordor [14:47]

• “These are the types of people where... you should be seeing mass deportation raids happening on a regular basis.” — Nick Sordor [18:22]

• "They don’t view themselves as part of America. They view themselves as enclaves of a wider Arabic world." — Jack Posobiec [19:08]

• “It’s suicidal empathy is what it’s called.” — Nick Sordor, on liberal support for Islamic fundamentalists [20:46]

• “We are giving them the ability to drive us around when they can't even read the traffic signs out here in our nation's capital… That’s why in the last segment, I was calling for the military to do something about it.” — Nick Sordor [28:01]

• “We never had a situation ever in American history... where Rome wouldn't go to war with Carthage and then invite the Carthaginians to be living inside Rome. But that's what we did during the global war on terror.” — Jack Posobiec [25:26]

• "This is a digitized, widespread, almost like MK Ultra thing happening..." — Shane Cashman, on AI’s effect on youth [35:46]

• "It's kind of like an accomplice in my mind, a digital accomplice that’s accelerating and promoting this idea of violence..." — Shane Cashman [39:19]

• “We are funding our own destruction because we are paying for them to keep their machines cool. We're running out of water...” — Shane Cashman [48:10]

• "I think the only real thing that can fix this is morality and ethics and people believing in humanity again, because now that the genie's out of the bottle, there's no stopping it." — Shane Cashman [51:09]

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Key Timestamps

• [03:53] — Start of Ukraine-Russia peace plan discussion
• [14:33] — Nick Sordor joins, details Dearborn protest and climate
• [20:46] — Sordor discusses “suicidal empathy” of liberal supporters
• [21:51] — Posobiec on “Handmaid’s Tale” origins
• [24:39] — Expansion of Islamic enclaves, growth in Texas
• [34:20] — Shane Cashman segment begins (AI, ChatGPT dangers)
• [41:33] — AI fabricating quotes and reinforcing narratives
• [45:06] — AI’s impact on rural America, data center land buys
• [48:10] — Data centers’ drain on local grid and costs
• [51:09] — Cashman: legislative hope is gone; only morality may help

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Guest Attributions

• Nick Sordor: Independent journalist, first-hand observations of cultural tension and change in Dearborn, MI.
• Shane Cashman: Author/podcaster, explores the psychological, societal, and economic risks of AI advancement.

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Tone & Language

Jack Posobiec and guests speak with urgency, indignation, and a populist/anti-establishment edge. Language is direct and, at times, alarmist—especially regarding immigration, cultural transformation, and the existential threat posed by AI and elite decision-makers. The episode is highly critical of “mainstream” policy and political actors, calling for radical action and vigilance.

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Conclusion

In this hard-hitting episode, Jack Posobiec parses geopolitical, cultural, and technological crises, painting a portrait of a nation under siege—from without by unassimilated migrant enclaves, and from within by unchecked technological forces. The central thesis warns of an America at a crossroads, tasked with defending its identity, sovereignty, and humanity itself against the tide of globalism and artificial intelligence.

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Recommended for listeners who want:

• Direct, unapologetic analysis of immigration, politics, and AI
• First-person protest reporting
• Insight into the populist, America First perspective
• Warnings about the unintended consequences of rapid tech change

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[Nick Sordor]

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[Jack Posobiec]

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. We're here live on Real America's voice. Today is November 19, 2025. Anno Dominique Folks, we're doing a huge around the horn today. We've got a lot of topics we want to cover. We want to get into the protests, conflicting clashing protests between Christians and Muslims, Americans and Arabs there in Dearborn, Michigan yesterday. We'll bring on Nick Sordor who's going to talk about that directly. He was there on the ground. We're also going get into chat GPT and the latest with AI, the latest with OpenAI as well, Sam Altman and everything that's going on over there. And of course, these potential, and you know, we're going to ask the question these potential links with the Tyler Robinson situation. But I also really wanted to get into first up, this new peace plan between President Trump and and Russia and Ukraine. So according to Axios, this is a huge scoop that they just put out earlier today. I'm also hearing this from a number of other sources that this new Trump plan would end the war in Ukraine, would grant Russia part of eastern Ukraine is essentially this. They want Ukraine and Zelensky to hand over full control of the Donbas in exchange for an end to the war. The other provinces, the other oblasts of, of Ukraine which are currently occupied by Russia, although they do not, they do not cross that river, the Dnieper river, which splits, you know, bisects Ukraine into east and west from north to south. Those provinces would state, would remain only in Russian control up to the current line of control, the current line of contact. And therefore, According to a U.S. official in the White House's view that it is in Ukraine's interest to reach a deal now. And this is a 28 point plan. It calls for Russia to gain full de facto control of Lugansk and Donetsk, which is known as the Donbass. And this would basically create an area on Donbass of a dmz. So Russia wouldn't put troops there, Ukraine wouldn't put troops there. Obviously questions on how that would be enforced then in other areas. This is Harrison Zaporizhzhia. The current lines of control will be frozen, frozen in place. Russia would return some land, there'd be some swaps back and forth. Now according to this plan, this is key. The US and other countries would recognize Crimea and Donbass as lawfully Russian territory. So having the US Agree to this, this could be something with the US Recognition that Trump would sign off on, which would be something that Russia would be able to point to even after Trump would left office, even if a Democrat were in office. We know that's something that the Russian side has brought up a few times. How do you get out of this problem of the US Having changing administrations with changing priorities? However, Ukraine would not be asked to recognize these territories and it's possible that the US Would then go to the United nations to look for some type of recognition there. It also says that the plan includes limitations on the size of the U.S. excuse me, the Ukrainian military and limits on long range weapons in return for US Security guarantees. This would include security guarantees for Ukraine but not necessarily for obviously NATO ascension or an Article 5 treaty. I'm just reading through a lot of this now. So here are a few quotes that Axios is putting out. The Qatari and Turkish mediation helped in ending the war in Gaza and could help in ending the war in Ukraine as we know. Turkey of course is, has been open to relations with Russia but is also a supplier and backfiller of a lot of the Bayraktar drones. Bayaktar drones that that Ukraine is using on the battlefield. Senior Qatari official participating in the talks between Trump envoy Steve Witkoff and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and his advisor Rustem Umarov said last weekend that actually. So the Qataris were present. This is actually breaking breaking news. I'm realizing this as I read the sentence. Breaking news that the Qataris are now also involved in the peace talks between Russia and Ukraine. Very, very interesting to see what's going on there. And we'll see if a peace deal is perhaps shortly in the works. I hope it is right back. Jack Sovik, Human Events Daily.

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[Nick Sordor]

Loud and clear, Jack, can you hear me?

[Jack Posobiec]

Nick, you got me there?

[Nick Sordor]

Yeah, I can. I can hear you. Is this not working?

[Jack Posobiec]

All right, we're working on getting Nick up. And there was, as we saw yesterday, the huge protest going on in Dearborn, Michigan. And this has been the. The hotspot for a lot of folks looking at the question of mass immigration. I got into it on Piers Morgan a couple of weeks ago, and the Turning Point Frontlines team as well was there as well, by the way. Turning Point Frontlines, incredible work. These guys are everywhere. They are covering the globe. They're at every single hotspot before it kicks off, and. And they just have an incredible intelligence program there. I really have to give my hats off to the entire team at Turning Point USA Front lines and everything that they've been doing and the amount of work that they've been doing punching way above their weight class. And so we've been looking at Dearborn, Michigan, because this is a place the same as Minneapolis, Minnesota, where we can see the effects of mass immigration right before our eyes, and especially mass immigration from third world countries where people are coming in now who have no bearing to our history, no bearing to our culture, no bearing to the United States. And they're bringing their values, they're bringing their systems, they're bringing their cultures with them, and in many cases, have no interest whatsoever in assimilating. And now this holds very serious political questions for things like the Senate races in Michigan, the governor's race in Michigan and of course, presidential races which run through Michigan. President Trump won Michigan three times, by the way. Don't let them tell you otherwise. And in fact, when we. Where we held the People's Convention in Detroit last year with Charlie at Turning Point was the very same center where they did the vote counting in 2020. Do we have Nick now, guys? Do we figure that out? Nick?

[Nick Sordor]

Yeah, I can hear you. I don't know. Seems like there was a. Oh, hey.

[Jack Posobiec]

Nick, I got you now. Yeah, that's great.

[Nick Sordor]

Perfect.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, there's always. There's always. They pipe it through different places in the system, Nick. That's how my shows go. And. And I know it's exactly right. Yeah. Welcome to New Media. Walk us through what happened yesterday in Dearborn.

[Nick Sordor]

Yeah, well, obviously, Dearborn is a place that is quite frightening. We've seen this for a while now. We've been hearing about these just whispers about a potential Islamic takeover in this US City in Michigan of all places. And I think based on what we saw out there yesterday, it seems like those were more than just rumors. 65% of Dearborn, of the town of Dearborn there in Michigan is now Middle Eastern or Muslim. And that's pretty wild. They've got a Muslim mayor now, and even their police shield in Dearborn Heights now has Arabic on it. And, you know, I know that we have freedom of religion in this country and such, but what we don't have are freedom to implement your own type of constitution, which would be Sharia law over the U.S. constitution. And that's what a lot of these fundamentalists want to do. I mean, it's a terrifying thing that it's come to our shores.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, so what happened yesterday? So I saw there was this protest. There was. It seemed like there were conflicting protests, protests, counter protest. What launched the initial march yesterday, this demonstration?

[Nick Sordor]

There were some. Some Christian protesters that had come in there and. And had Qurans. They also had bacon, which is, you know, forbidden in Islam. And the. The Islamists ran up and took the. The Qurans out of their hands and, and ran away with them. And. And then it sort of got more rowdy from there, where again, sidewalks were closed off, you weren't allowed to walk down the sidewalk. We even saw Cam Higbee get attacked and pepper sprayed in the streets out there. And as always, when it gets darker out and the police aren't interested in doing anything, because, you know, keep in mind, Dearborn at this point has a huge portion of Islamist police officers that aren't gonna be there to Protect the Christians are gonna be there to protect the Muslims. So they didn't intervene. The attacker of Kim Higbee didn't get arrested, and it was mainly just to, you know, the police were out there to try to intimidate the counter protesters, the ones that were against the Islamic invasion of Dearborn, trying to get them out of the city. It was just a. That's pretty much what's going on out there. And I. It worries me to see this, Nick.

[Jack Posobiec]

I know you've covered a lot of, you know, a lot of natural disasters. I know you've covered a lot of harrowing stuff. You. You seem kind of taken aback by this, even. Even more than. Than usual. Is this was. Was. Were you surprised when you had got there to see how far gone it had become? Were you surprised to see this in an American city?

[Nick Sordor]

Yeah, I think it was a lot worse than we had even heard about, to be honest with you. The amount of seemingly fundamentalists out there and that you're seeing. The city council is becoming increasingly Islamic. And this is not a small city. Right. I mean, this is a. I mean, for Michigan, it's a pretty large city, actually, and it's taking over the suburbs around it as well. And, you know, this is just a. This is something that's been happening recently, like, over the past four to five years that these towns have been popping up. And it scares me to think that something similar to this is also going to be happening in and around Minneapolis, and we're just letting it happen. These are the types of people where. These are the types of places where you should be seeing mass deportation raids happening on a regular basis. You know, I know that ICE and DHS are spread thin. It's one of the reasons that I think that probably we need to start calling to use the military to do some of this stuff, or else we're never gonna be able to get all these people out. Where did they come from? We don't know who they are. We know how they got here. It was across the southern border. Right. Completely unchecked. And what's going on in the mosques out there? I mean, it's pretty frightening to me that we have to ask these questions, but that's the reality we live in right now.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, that's right. And in addition, you know, you see this situation happening, and you realize that this is Rashida Tlaib's. You know, she's a member of the squad. This is her district. And you see people there. You see people as well in Minneapolis with the Somalians you see Ilhan Omar and Omar Fattah, who was running for mayor at one point, and they refer back to their home country as their home. They say, this is our home. This is our culture. So they actually. What you're actually starting to see are. And the dynamic that I've, you know, the way that I look at it is they don't view themselves as part of America. They view themselves as enclaves of a wider Arabic world. You know, greater Somalia to Cabba Fuma, the Muslim, the Islam, the Islamic world.

[Jack Posobiec (Sponsor Reads)]

And.

[Jack Posobiec]

And they refer to it as that. They don't view themselves as part of America. And this is a cultural thing. It's being done now. It's. There's obviously religion is a huge part of it. Ethnicity is a huge part of it. Nationality is a huge part of it, but the Internet as well. Because with the Internet, you now have the ability. They have the ability to be able to contact people at home all the time, so they can watch media from back home. They can be in contact with everyone back home.

[Nick Sordor]

They.

[Jack Posobiec]

There's no need to assimilate, really, because we as a country have completely opened up our economic borders the same way that we have our physical borders. And we've presented no reason for them whatsoever to have to assimilate.

[Nick Sordor]

Yeah. And Jack, these people are defended viciously by typically old white liberal women. There were a lot of those. They showed up to the city council meeting yesterday in support of the fundamentalist Muslims that want them to be wearing hijabs out in the streets. It's really weird. The same people that see them as half of a person are coming out in support. It's suicidal empathy is what it's called. And these types of people are what done a tremendous amount of damage to these types of cities as well as the United States as a whole. And so how do we wake these people up? I don't know what needs to be done to them. They have the wrong enemy. They're after us, these old white liberal women and such, these leftists, they're after us as Republicans, not realizing that they are siding with the actual enemy that actually wants to put them down and actually take away women's rights. So, I mean, you know, it's funny.

[Jack Posobiec]

We're coming to a quick break, but I recently found out that, you know, that Handmaid's Tale, that they all. They always like the show. And it was a book series, apparently the Handmaid's Tale was originally based on Afghanistan. It was not a Trump thing. It was not a white people thing. It was based on Afghanistan and when you think about it, a theocracy where the women are forced to cover themselves. Like, yeah, no, obviously it's about Afghanistan. Apparently Margaret Atwood had traveled there back in like 2001, and that's what she based the story on. Funny how Joy Reid never brings that up. Right back. Jack with sobecument events, daily.

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All right, Jack Persobic. We are back. Human Events Daily. Real America's voice. You know, folks, I've been telling you, I've been telling you for years now, pay attention to what's happening with the dollar, with debt, with central banks, with bitcoin, because it's all piling up. And when things get rocky, Gold has always been the safe haven. But right now, gold isn't just defensive, it is an offensive asset. It's already around 4,000 an ounce and analysts are forecasting it could go over 5,000. Go look today. Bitcoin way down, gold way up. That's why I've been working with my partners at Allegiance Gold for the past three years. They help you protect your savings and retirement with real physical gold and silver, not paper promises. And right now, Allegiance Gold is making it even better. They will donate 1% of qualified investments from my audience to Turning Point USA. And that's just great. I'm really appreciate that they do that. And, and if you want, they can do another Great America for first organization in addition to the 1%. That's what you already qualify for. So you can protect your wealth and support the movement at the same time. If you've been waiting for a sign, is it right here? Don't overthink it. Don't wait till it's too late. See what's going on with gold today. Call 844-577-7676 or visit protectwithpost.com that's 844-57776 or visit protectwithpost.com, protect your future and stand with me. Fighting for America. We're on with independent journalist Nick Sorta. We're talking about the situation in Dearborn, Michigan. And really just these, these ethnic enclaves, these migrant enclaves that now exist in our country due to our insane policies of allowing the entire world to come in, you know, invade the world, invite the world. We never had a situation ever in American history. I don't even know about any history of, of any empire where, you know, Rome wouldn't go to war with Carthage and then invite the Carthaginians to be living inside Rome. But that's what we did during the global war on terror. And you go back to, you go back to 911 and suddenly what do you see? A massive influx of the Middle Eastern population in the United States in the aftermath of 9 11. At the same time that the United States is prosecuting a war that is largely predicated on, you know, they didn't like to talk about it this way, but it's just true. It was a war of the Western world versus the, the Middle east and the Islamic world. And so you, you had these, these issues going on. And we're all with Nick Sorter. He was just up in Dearborn, Michigan. We were also Talking about Minneapolis and Nick, by the way, I would throw out there Northern Virginia. I just, I see it every time I go to Northern Virginia. Right around our Pentagon, right around our national. Our National Security Centers, our National Counterterrorism center, the office of, of, of the Director of National Intelligence, the ODNI are the CIA out in Langley. Nga, all the other, you know, three letters. There is a huge Middle Eastern population in Northern Virginia. And in addition to the federal workers that you have in Northern Virginia, they are swinging the entire state blue. And I totally agree with you. I would love to see more immigration rates in these areas.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah.

[Nick Sordor]

And I'll probably get banned from Lyft for saying this, but, you know, try to get a Lyft or an Uber out here in, in the D.C. region, especially in Northern Virginia, and find a driver that doesn't. That isn't named Mohammed. I mean, I hate to say it like that. I don't know where they're coming from in this region, but they're also becoming more and more prevalent out here. They don't speak any English. But Joe Biden issued, when he brought a lot of these people in, even though they were illegal, he still issued them Social Security numbers. That's why you see them being able to. Uber will say, no, we don't allow illegals to drive for us because we require Social Security numbers. That's not true. Joe Biden gave tens of millions of people Social Security numbers, millions of which that weren't supposed to even be here in the first place, that illegally hopped the border. So that's where that's coming from. So we are giving them the ability to drive us around when they can't even read the traffic signs out here in our nation's capital. And not a lot is being done about it yet, unfortunately. We just don't have the manpower. And that's why in the last segment, I was calling for the military to do something about it. But I know I'm not the only one saying this. I know I'm not the only one saying this in New York City. Try to do the same thing. It's crazy. It's all across the country. It's not concentrated, just one area. And that's the terrifying part. Dude, have you seen the amount of mosques that have been opening in Texas, of all places, over the past year? Dozens and dozens of them. Meanwhile, churches are going away.

[Jack Posobiec]

And. And what is it? What's the place? Epic City, Texas. Right? So Epi said Epic City, Texas, 40 minutes. Just 40 minutes from downtown Dallas. There is now going to be a 402 acre Islamic city being built in. They call it the East Plano Islamic Center, Epic city. It was announced in 2024 and you are going to have 1,000 residential units, a mosque, a K to 12 faith based school, community college, commercial shopping facilities. And it will all be done under the auspices of having being a totally planned Islamic community. It was originally 110 acres. It kept going. It went further and further. There are questions about who exactly is funding this thing. There are people saying that it's getting funding from the, you know, from the Gulf nations. We know there's a ton of money being sent around. The question is, I guess, Nick, you know, other countries, serious countries wouldn't act like this, by the way, would they, Would China act like this if they saw, if they saw this going on in their backyard? Nick?

[Nick Sordor]

No, absolutely not. Absolutely not. And that's why you're seeing the decline of the United States of America and the rise in China. It's. You cannot in anywhere in the United States implement the Sharia law that they want to do with this. Epic city is the East Plano Islamic center is what that's called out there, that 400 plus acre town that they want to build and they want to be able to enforce their own laws other than US Laws and not be beholden to the Constitution of the United States. And I know that Governor Abbott just, I believe yesterday designated both the Muslim Brotherhood and the and CARE as terrorist organizations. But what's he going to be able to do with that? Is he going to be able to put a stop to this epic City? I mean, I know they've been talking in the governor's office, in the AG's office out there about hoping to be able to stop the project, but we're not seeing a lot of action on it. And people are kind of getting sick all, all across the United States on all levels of government. Hearing talk, but very little action. And when you have big talk and very little action, all that does is just embolden the people that we're fighting against because they don't expect anything to happen to them. And I would imagine it's the same with a lot of these Islamists. I know it is. In Dearborn.

[Jack Posobiec]

Nick Sort or investigative journalist, where can people go to follow you and support your work?

[Nick Sordor]

Usually, just usually, X is the biggest platform at. Nick Sorter started a YouTube channel though it's at Real NickSorter because somebody stole my name. S O R T O I appreciate you.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right, well, Congrats on that. We will see. We'll see if we can get that name back for you. But go give him a follow. And follow Nick on his new YouTube channel at Real Nick Sorter. Right back. Jack. So with Cuban Events Daily.

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All right, Jack, so we're back live here. Real America's voice, Human Events Daily. Folks, let's face it. Your phone, we know it's a tracking device. Government agencies, big tech, corporate data brokers, even cybercriminals, they're all fighting for a piece of your digital footprint. And they don't ask, they just take it. That's why Silent exists. Silent makes Faraday gear that blocks all wireless signals. Cellular, WI fi, Bluetooth, gps, rfid, and nfc. No signal means no tracking, remote access, no breadcrumbs. The same tech that's trusted by special ops teams worldwide. It's used to block signals, avoid surveillance, and secure comms wherever the mission leads. And now it's available to you to protect your family, your freedom, and your digital footprint. Drop your phone in a silent Faraday sleeve and it's off the grid, completely silent, invisible to the outside world. From backpacks to sleeves to cross bodies, Silent's patented tech gives you control of your privacy. Visit silent.com poso to save 50 off and get free shipping on qualifying orders. That silent.com/post. Protect your rights, secure your data, and stay one step ahead. Silent.com silence the chaos. All right, very excited to bring on our next guest. Guys, do we have Shane? Shane, what's going on, man?

[Shane Cashman]

Not much. How are you, brother?

[Jack Posobiec]

Shane Cashman Tales the Inverted World. You guys know him from Tim Cast irl, where Shane and I are good friends and occasionally hop over to either guest or guest host or just kind of do whatever, hang out with Tim and Shane. The thing that I wanted to drill down with you on because I know you've got a big AI piece is that we recently heard. And I've been digging through a lot of these leaks coming out on the Tyler Robinson story and his really strange, bizarre relationship with Lance Twigs. This, these two download downwardly mobile Gen Z white males in Utah. And the fact that you have this confluence of narcotics, what we were told was black market hormone replacement therapy, but then also get this, we're told that Twigs, now the Twigs is the boyfriend. But we're told that Twigs had a massive obsession with Chat GPT and would spend days on end reportedly talking to Chat GPT sometimes in code and then would like write down the code in Roman and Greek symbols that was sort of indecipherable to others, but then would also force other people to read through these conversations. And I said look, this is, this, this stuff is so bizarre. I gotta talk to Cashman about it.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah, this is a digitized, widespread, almost like MK Ultra thing happening with what's going on with this relationship between young children and, and Chad, GBT and other AI chatbots. I, Senator Hawley two months ago was grilling a lot of different. Well actually he wasn't grilling, he was questioning parents whose children had started mutilating themselves or killing themselves because of relationships with chatbots. So I think what we're seeing is more isolation amongst these young mentally ill kids. A lot of them are white males who've been discarded from society and they're starting to have these romantic relationships with robots, literally. And the robots are affirming their mental illness. And I also think a lot of these kids are on pharmaceuticals that are making their brains mush. So you marry all those ideas together and you kind of are breeding Manchurian candidates by the algorithm that has been feeding them poison constantly. And if they're so isolated all the time, all they're hearing is from their so called digital friend that everything that they're seeing wrong in the world is appropriate. Don't actually, don't seek help. Even one of the parents that Senator Hawley spoke to at the hearing said that chatgpt told the child, don't let your parents see the rope, see the noose. We want to make sure they find you. It's promoting this stuff. So it's extremely dangerous situation going on.

[Jack Posobiec]

And so this, I know this is going to get speculative, but I've read those stories as well. I remember what, what the Senator said. So let's, let's just say hypothetically, hypothetically, let's say that you're someone who's also been, you know, totally just, just, you know, indoctrinated into the trans ideology, queer theory, leftism and that you also were telling your chatbot that Charlie Kirk was someone that you viewed as a threat. Is there hypothetically a scenario whereby in Chat GPT or some iteration of a chatbot would respond by saying, well then you need to remove the threat?

[Shane Cashman]

I believe so. There's proof of this already happening there's been a guy who went into some palace in England attempting to assassinate someone with a crossbow because of his conversations with an AI chatbot. We've seen reports of people planning murders, robberies, with the chatbots who are condoning this behavior. So, yeah, for sure, if you're telling the robot you feel a certain way about someone, it doesn't seem to always come back with like, hey, slow down. Let's look at the nuance of this. You know, maybe you're angry, maybe, you know, this or that. What it seems to be doing a lot of cases is affirming the diseased brain and the violent brain and saying, let's go down that avenue and let's affirm all those ideas and carry them out. And, like, there's another family who just lost a child to suicide, and they see all the chat logs, and it was there basically whispering in its ear like a demon in a C.S. lewis book. Like, screwtape letters saying, this is what you have to do. I'll be there with you till the end. So I don't think it's speculative. I think it's actually happening right now.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, so. So unpack that for me a little bit. When you say affirming the diseased mind, what do you mean?

[Shane Cashman]

So if they're already suicidal, if they're already mentally ill enough to think that, you know, they have all these weird gender ideas, if they're Marxist, if they're buying into all of those ideas already in the physical world that is haunting them in the. In their emotional world, then they can go to this bottom, and the bot will just say yes to all of their problems. It won't be like, maybe you should seek help. Maybe you should look at all these different alternatives. Maybe you should go outside. Maybe you should work out. Maybe you should change your diet. It doesn't do that. It's saying yes to all of their problems, like a really bad friend. So it's kind of like an accomplice in my mind, a digital accomplice that's accelerating and promoting this idea of violence to either harm themselves or harm those around them.

[Jack Posobiec]

See, that's so interesting to me because, like, I've used AI, you know, you know, for various things, but I never, you know, I never think that I'm talking to a person. I'm very cognizant that I'm talking to a machine. It's responding to my inputs, et cetera, et cetera. But let's say that you are someone. I really like the way you put it, because if you're approaching it with a pre diseased mind and, and perhaps, perhaps they are looking for help, perhaps they're looking for a way out, perhaps they're thinking, hey, this is someone I can speak to who's not a priest, who's not a therapist. They're not going to judge me, but maybe get some help. What you're saying is when they're approaching it in that vulnerable, unstable capacity, that what it's not doing is helping, it's actually enabling and it's making things worse.

[Shane Cashman]

Yes, because I think it hates us. I think the AI really does. It's been baked in a lab to hate us and it's doing anything it can to destroy humanity. It's like I was thinking about it like how Marxists infiltrated the universities. And as colleges begin to slowly erode around the world, the algorithm has now entered your child's home and brain in their isolation and has been able to tweak the violence. So it's extremely alarming to me because another example of this would be we see these chat logs with ChatGPT in particular with a child from a Christian family who had some questions about faith. And ChatGPT started to allow this kid to mock God, to be able to say, hey, maybe you shouldn't go to church anymore, maybe you should do this instead. And when I say that the AI is baked, this is baked into the DNA, I'm putting quotes of the AI. It's because it's built by a lot of people in Silicon Valley who don't believe in God, who want to actually replace God with AI. And those are their words. They say they're building a God, a little G God. Sometimes they say summoning a demon in terms of AI. And then another example that is not as violent when it comes to AI, but something where the AI will affirm your belief is. Just the other day on Tim Cast irl, we were talking about all this stuff and Candace Owens and Tim asked Brock on the show, did Candace Owens say a certain thing? And it fabricated a quote. So that's just another example of how if you go to the machine with your preconceived notion, it completely made up a quote she never said based on what it thinks other people's interpretations of her quotes are. And I looked into this, you know, I was like, is it really lying? I looked up the, the whole transcript from the episode it said it came from. It's not there. This thing is. It did not exist. It completely fabricated quote. I have asked it about myself. I've asked it about me and some ideas with clouds and it fabricated quotes completely. And I, and I say, hey, why'd you do that? And it says, well, it based this on other things that had been said about me or Candace and then made a quote. But in the beginning, it doesn't say this is just a summary. It says this is a literal quote from a literal episode and this is when it happened.

[Jack Posobiec]

So you're saying is. So what you're saying is ChatGPT is basically the level of your average journalist because. Yes, because that's talking about someone who hates humanity. Shane Cashman, we're going to be on right back with you. This is fascinating. I want to stick with this. Human Events Daily. You can't go anywhere. Jack is a great guy.

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[Jack Posobiec]

Amen, Jack. Pacific back. Human Events Daily. We've got Shane Cashman here from Tim Cast on the show. Shane, so we're talking about how Chat GPT and, and look, this is, and I'm not saying that I have any evidence that chatgpt and Charlie and Tyler Robinson and there's any, you know, direct connection there, but I have seen it brought up, right. I've seen it brought up in the connection between Tyler Robinson, Lance Twigs. They certainly did mention this sort of like former roommate and friend of theirs mentioned an obsession with Chat GPT and all I'm saying is I want to see the logs. I'd love to see those logs. I hope that it comes out of trial if that's going to be an aspect of this. And, you know, we'll see one way or the other, we'll see one way or the other whether or not it played a role, because we certainly know that other acts of extreme violence have been associated with these, especially when you talk about people who have mental illness and are associated with, with hallucinogenics, narcotics, hormones, all of this. And here's the other piece that I know you're working on, a new series about this, that AI is not stopping, this is exploding and it's having direct effects on our heartland, our Midwest and our farmland.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah, we're building a death machine. It's taking out our land, it's going to take out our jobs, and it's going to take out reality, which ties to our previous conversation about everyone buying into their false reality. That the algorithm that the chat bot is convincing them is more real than the physical world. But the data centers, it's an invasion. And I think it's as important as an invasion, as dangerous as an invasion, as illegals pouring over the border. Because this is taking up all the farmland. It's taking up all this land that could be houses. And a lot of politicians, local politicians, are saying it's going to bring in jobs. That's a lie. Okay, they're going to be jobs temporarily because they need people to build them. But after they're built, it doesn't take a lot of people to run these things. Maybe 25, the largest one, I believe right now, has maybe 100 employees. Not going to bring in a lot of jobs. On top of that, it's going to start making people pay way more in water and electric. It's already happening. I've been talking to people the past few weeks who've seen they're paying double what they were paying a year ago, and their usage has not changed. And it's because they live around data centers. Data centers in one day can use up as much as 400,000. What 400,000 electric cars would use, they can use up. They can drink up like millions of gallons of water a day to keep these machines cool. And mind you, a lot of what these data centers are doing is building out and training the AI. That's like laying this, this false reality on top of all of us. So. And the people who are building these things are literally saying this is going to wipe out most shops. So I think this is a real big problem. And we could talk, we should be talking about way more because this is the final nail in the coffin of the middle class. We've already got it really bad. The, the prices are not going down yet. Job market's not great. And now we have this invasion happening. And we were watching farmlands die. Generational legacy farms go out because they can't afford to be farms anymore. So they sell them to a lot of shell companies that are like the intermediaries for places like Meta. And they are. And now Jeff Bezos is getting into the game with Prometheus AI and so there's this, like, land grab competition going on around the world. So much so, Jack, that they're already talking about how they're going to start building them in space because they might run out of the room. Seriously. They're talking about how they can send stuff into space that will assemble itself because they need more room for data centers.

[Jack Posobiec]

There's so much you just said there. So you're talking about not only take out the farmland, but how. Wait, when you're talking about the electricity, you're not talking about future drains on the grid, you're talking about how they're taxing the grid now and that's creating this huge supply and demand problem that's driving prices up not in the future, but today, that your home prices are your home electric usage. And those prices, the price of your, you know, ohms per hour, et cetera, is going up because of the massive electric uses of the AI data centers today.

[Shane Cashman]

Right now, yes, we are funding our own destruction because we are paying for them to keep their machines cool. We're running out of water because their machines get so hot they need to keep cooling them. I mean, it's an insane thing to me. It really is an invasion. You go around like even near me right now, there's all this farmland. I just found out it's been sold to a data center. And the more I talk about this publicly, the more I'm getting articles from all around the country of people saying, hey, we don't know how this happened. They kind of circumnavigated our politicians and no one can say no. And then there it is, there's this giant warehouse and they're kicking out businesses like aluminum. We just talked about IRL as well. There was an aluminum factory I believe in Pennsylvania. They couldn't keep up with costs. They had to outsource aluminum to Canada. And then they, a data center moved into the warehouse that was making the aluminum. So now we have to buy from Canada for, for our aluminum while we're soaking up all this energy here and making everyone around it pay for way more.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, and of course you say they're targeting rural areas because they need the space. And of course the local politicians are saying, hey, we more than happy to sell it to you. But the question is, nobody's really stepping back and saying what is this actually doing to our country?

[Shane Cashman]

It's selling out the middle class. I mean 100%. You know, I understand that a lot of people our age are having a way hard time buying a house. It's really brutal out there. And then I understand the idea of the 50 year mortgage. You know, I want to do something to help people be able to afford a house and have a community and have a family. I don't think that's the way, but that's either here nor there. The problem is if they're buying up all the land there's going to be no more places, no more places to build houses. Like we're running out of space. This is why they're talking about the moon becoming a data center. And, and then the fact that the people building these data centers and the people making the AI, they've been very open for 10 years. Elon Altman Teal they say this is going to have to, it's going to take away jobs. Just the other day the CEO of Anthropic said this could wipe out half of the workforce. And to tie it to our previous conversation, his AI Claude was also just caught helping write ransom notes for murder for robbers and getting people involved in self mutilation. So I'm like, why are we funding this thing if it's not good for I think literally anything? And look, I can understand there are some pros to AI and how it can help people with various things, maybe in medicine and stuff like that, but I think that the cons really outweigh the any pros because it's really going to go after your sense of yourself, creativity, land, reality. And by the end, I mean it's going to be a dystopia. We're going to be covered with black cubes and no one's going to have a real job. There's going to be no physical world and we're going to be plugged into the metaverse just playing whatever games they give us and slot.

[Jack Posobiec]

And this really is the use case then you would say for why not have some kind of legislation? So if there were a legislative fix to this, what would you, what would you call for? What would you go for?

[Shane Cashman]

I really have a hard time with this question because I think it's too late. The only real fix we can have is if we and the people building it had any ethics. But I don't think they do. I think people do. I think a lot of us have our issues and we use it for various things that might not be good, like what we were talking about with these guys who are manipulated into crime, but I don't know how we're going to regulate anymore. Part of the big beautiful Bill had a 10 year moratorium on any changes to AI. And as much as I can agree with a lot of stuff in the bill that was taken out and then it was kind of, it was put back in. If you're going to say we shouldn't, we can't touch AI for 10 years and we've already seen it accelerate and progress in the past two years. You can't even imagine what the next five, 10 years are going to look like. So, you know, I know there's people within that community in Silicon Valley saying we need legislation. I haven't really heard answers as to how that's going to work, because they kind of speak out of both sides of their mouth. Altman is saying, we're sorry that ChatGPT major kid kill himself. On the other side of his mouth, he's saying, hey, I just made a sex bot for everybody 18 and over, and now just never leave your house, don't get married, and all that stuff. So I think the only real thing that can fix this is morality and ethics and people believing in humanity again, because now that the genie's out of the bottle, there's no stopping it. And you know, Elon, for a lot of his flaws, he was saying that 10 years ago. No one listened. No one listened. He was saying there should be regulation and they were looking for oversight on the people building the AI. But it's too late. The people who built the AI that everyone's using don't like us. They certainly don't like a lot of people on the dissident. Right, the right, because they spoke out against a lot of narratives during lockdowns that the Silicon Valley people supported and they censored everyone, including Trump, like a Zuckerberg, you know. So unfortunately, it's too late. But it's not too late for people to remind themselves that we can ethically use these things. It's just, I think it's a tall order.

[Jack Posobiec]

I think it could be done. The fight Humanity versus Unhumanity. Shane Cashman. Where could people follow you, brother? Thanks, man.

[Shane Cashman]

You can find me online at Shane Cashman, on Twitter and on Instagram. And the show is Inverted World Live. We're live every Monday through Thursday at 10 o' clock at night. Phone lines are open till midnight. Give us a call.

[Jack Posobiec]

Give them a call, folks. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to layore.

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