Human Events with Jack Posobiec, November 20th, 2025

Summary

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Human Events with Jack Posobiec: November 20, 2025

Podcast: Real America’s Voice (iHeartPodcasts)
Host: Jack Posobiec
Guests: Steve Hilton (California Gubernatorial Candidate), Eric Trump
Location: Bakersfield, California

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Episode Overview

In this dynamic, in-studio episode of Human Events Daily, Jack Posobiec is joined by Steve Hilton—former Fox News host and candidate for governor of California—for an in-depth discussion on the state of California, energy policy, working-class struggles, and the larger transformation of American political dynamics. Special guest Eric Trump joins later in the episode, weighing in on issues of weaponization of government, election integrity, and political opposition. The episode blends current events with electoral strategy, energetic critique, and commentary on the state of the American right.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. California’s Energy Crisis and Policy Failure

[04:10 – 07:25]

• Steve Hilton outlines his key campaign pledge: “$3 gas for Californians.” He blames “climate zealots” for stifling California’s abundant oil and gas reserves, resulting in high gas prices and forced reliance on foreign oil imports.

  “We are in the heart of our energy industry in California... We have abundant oil and gas reserves right here under our feet, being left in the ground by the insane climate zealots.”
  – Steve Hilton [04:11]

• Hilton claims California now imports nearly 80% of its oil—primarily from Iraq—due to anti-oil legislation, calling it an environmental and economic failure:

  “We are now importing nearly 80% of the oil we use in California... What’s our number one provider? It used to be California. Today: Iraq.”
  – Steve Hilton [06:36]

• Jack Posobiec points out the irony:

  “If you actually care about the environment, you’d think that you wouldn’t want to do that [ship oil halfway around the world]...”
  – Jack Posobiec [07:25]

Memorable moment: The hosts bond over Bakersfield’s history as an oil town now prevented from drilling its own oil.

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2. California: A Cautionary Tale for One-Party Rule

[23:21 – 29:44]

• Hilton presents a scathing indictment of Governor Gavin Newsom’s record and California’s decline under Democratic control:

  • Highest rates of unemployment and poverty in the nation
  • Worst business climate, highest costs, failing infrastructure
  • Rising crime, homelessness, and a failing education system

  “If you look at the failure in California, it is total and complete on every single front... Highest unemployment, highest poverty, highest costs for gas, electric, water, insurance, rent, homes, everything to do with housing.”
  – Steve Hilton [24:01]

• He accuses Newsom and Democratic leaders of being “machine politicians” with no aptitude for governing:

  “These are sort of BS artists, don’t know how to get anything actually done.”
  – Steve Hilton [29:44]

• Jack Posobiec emphasizes California as a warning for the rest of America.

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3. Death of the “Uniparty” and the Rise of Trump’s Working-Class Coalition

[12:29 – 19:00]

• The funeral of former Vice President Dick Cheney is discussed as a symbol of the fading political “ancien régime”—ostensibly replaced by new populist dynamics.

• Steve Hilton recounts his own shift toward the populist movement:

  “There’s one chart that really kind of woke me up... It showed the income of regular working people after inflation since the 70s, completely flat. Everything else up like a hockey stick.”
  – Steve Hilton [16:47]

• Hilton argues that Trump transformed the Republican Party into a “multiracial working-class coalition”:

  “With Trump at the helm, the Republican Party has the opportunity to become a multiracial working-class coalition... And that’s completely been delivered.”
  – Steve Hilton [18:04]

• Jack Posobiec frames “the silent recession,” highlighting generational and regional economic stagnation, and credits the 2008 bailouts as the catalyst for today’s populist realignment.

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4. Hollywood, Free Thinkers, and America’s Cultural Divide

[32:39 – 37:56]

• Jack and Steve reflect on the upcoming event with Megyn Kelly, Victor Davis Hanson, and Charlie Sheen—calling Sheen’s films examples of culturally “pro working class” Hollywood, now out of sync with California’s elite.

  “The rebel alliance aspect of it… Maybe it was so exciting… those are the types of films that used to be made in Hollywood.”
  – Jack Posobiec [35:28]

• Hilton describes most Californians as regular people, disconnected from and harmed by the state’s coastal elite policies.

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5. The Impact of Renewable Energy Policies on Agriculture and the Environment

[37:27 – 39:13]

• Hilton and Posobiec denounce state and federal policies that replace farmland with imported solar panels—sometimes from China—claiming this further harms California agriculture:

  “Miles and miles of the most fertile farmland in the world ripped out, replaced with solar panels shipped across the ocean...”
  – Steve Hilton [38:43]

• They question the sincerity of environmental policies that hurt working-class communities while benefiting global interests.

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6. Eric Trump Joins: Weaponization of Government and the 2024 Landscape

[39:26 – 50:42]

• Eric Trump criticizes New York and California’s energy policies, relating them to higher costs and declining infrastructure, contrasting them with Pennsylvania’s energy independence:

  “You need low energy costs... Pennsylvania has literally taken all the net worth and all the wealth.”
  – Eric Trump [41:27]

• The segment turns sharply political:

  • Eric recounts governmental weaponization against the Trump family (FBI, DOJ, media censorship, legal actions).
  • Decries Democratic “obstructionism,” lack of positive policy, and reliance on violence and bureaucracy to retain power.

  “I wrote an entire book about this... a story about how they weaponized every single department in the federal government.”
  – Eric Trump [45:07]

• He claims the Trump administration saw increased military recruitment and greater commitment to service members than under Biden/Obama, framing current federal actions as a threat to democracy and rule of law.

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7. The Cultural and Political Divide: Where Next?

[51:58 – 52:49]

• Steve Hilton and Jack Posobiec lament the double standards in media and politics:

  “These are the people that endlessly lecture us about protecting democracy and the rule of law. When the shamelessness…”
  – Steve Hilton [51:58]

• Calls for continued grassroots mobilization to counter entrenched establishment power in blue states and nationally.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Steve Hilton on California's decline:
  “It’s absolutely stunning. It’s a total failure. And the point that everyone needs to understand around the country is this is what happens when the left get everything that they want because they've been in power with no restraint whatsoever.” [26:08]

• Jack Posobiec on Cheney's funeral and the old guard:
  “This is the ancien regime, the old regime. This is the uniparty.” [13:32]

• Eric Trump on weaponization:
  “All they did was try and silence our family. They tried to take us out. They have 91 indictments against my father, 112 subpoenas against me personally. I became the most subpoenaed person in American history for never doing anything wrong.” [46:26]

• Steve Hilton on economic stagnation:
  “Earnings for most Americans after inflation: completely flat since 1974. Flat, and everything else up like a hockey stick.” [16:47]

• On the Trump coalition:
  “With Trump at the helm, the Republican Party has the opportunity to become a multiracial working class coalition... It’s a massive transformation, a historic transformation.” – Steve Hilton [18:04]

• Jack Posobiec on forgotten Americans:
  “President Trump calls them the forgotten man, forgotten woman. And those people are struggling. They’re struggling so much.” [19:00]

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Timestamps by Segment

| Time | Topic | |----------|--------------------------------------------| | 04:10 | Steve Hilton on $3 gas and California oil | | 06:36 | 80% of California’s oil imported; Iraq | | 12:29 | Cheney funeral, old establishment | | 16:47 | Economic “hockey stick” chart | | 18:04 | Trump’s working-class coalition | | 23:21 | California policy failure in detail | | 24:01 | Gavin Newsom’s record | | 29:44 | CA leadership as “BS artists” | | 32:39 | Event preview—Kelly, Sheen, Hanson | | 35:28 | American movies—Charlie Sheen as symbol | | 38:43 | Solar panels replace farmland | | 39:26 | Eric Trump joins—energy and NY/PA contrast | | 45:07 | Eric Trump on government weaponization | | 51:58 | Steve Hilton on double standards |

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Conclusion

This episode offered a sweeping critique of California’s Democratic dominance, energy and environmental policy, and the decline of institutional trust in America. Through pointed political analysis and personal stories, Jack Posobiec, Steve Hilton, and Eric Trump positioned themselves and their movement as the voice of “regular Americans” fighting back against corruption, establishment politics, and progressive overreach—framing 2025 as a pivotal year for conservative, working-class mobilization.

To learn more:

• Steve Hilton’s campaign: SteveHiltonForGovernor.com
• Eric Trump’s book: Available on Amazon
• To join future events—subscribe to Human Events on Real America’s Voice/iHeartPodcasts.

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Transcript

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[Steve Hilton]

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[Jack Posobiec]

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More in common than we do not in common. And that the disagreements that animate the Republican Party, while they matter and they're important, I think these debates should happen. They should happen in podcasts and they should happen in the media. They should happen on the op ed pages. It's totally reasonable for the people who make up this coalition to argue about what our foreign policy should be. What what our specific tax policy should be. Let These debates play out. But don't let the debates that you're, that we're having internally blind us to the fact that we are up against a radical leftist movement that murdered my friend a couple of months ago. And that would throw many people in the Trump administration in prison, not for doing anything illegal, but for not following the far left's agenda. That is the real opponent here, a political movement in this country that, that has no animating principle, that has no agenda for the American people. Their sole obsession is to take down Donald Trump and anybody who helped Donald Trump govern.

[Steve Hilton]

The US has now presented Ukraine with a new plan to try and end this war. A high level US Military delegation is in Kiev right now, is going to meet with President Zelensky later today. Some of the proposals that have been.

[Jack Posobiec]

Shared with ABC News include cutting the.

[Steve Hilton]

Ukrainian army, Russia keeping the territory it's occupied in the war, and a demilitarized buffer zone.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. We are live on location, Bakersfield, California. Today is November 20, 2025 Anno Domini. And I'm sitting here with perhaps the next governor of California, Steve Hilton.

[Steve Hilton]

What's up, Steve? There you go. I'm planning on it. And what a joy to see you.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, and thank you for having us. And incredible. The studio is amazing. And thank you so much for setting this up for us.

[Steve Hilton]

Well, you thank. Well, you know, I'm on the road a lot these days in California, all the time in Bakersfield. I love coming here because we are in the heart of our energy industry in California. We have abundant oil and gas reserves right here pretty much under our feet, being left in the ground by the insane climate zealots in California. One of the main things I'm gonna do as governor is open that up. My first pledge in my campaign, $3 gas. Which to you and everyone watching around the nation.

[Jack Posobiec]

I was driving around as we. I got into lax. I'm driving. It's about two hours north of Bakersfield. This. And we're in the Central Valley. This is the center of the center.

[Steve Hilton]

The south end of South Central Valley.

[Jack Posobiec]

And I couldn't believe the gas prices here.

[Steve Hilton]

I know.

[Jack Posobiec]

And this is coming from the east coast where they were under $3, right? I haven't seen it over 3. It's like 3. Maybe over like 310, give or take. But that's. Yeah, that's about it.

[Steve Hilton]

It's totally insane. And the thing is, and then I.

[Jack Posobiec]

Get here and I'm seeing $5 and.

[Steve Hilton]

The reason I go on about it is that actually it's such a perfect example of what the left is doing, which is in pursuit of their insane ideological agenda. They are crushing regular working class Californians. They are the ones paying the price for it. Drive their cars and their trucks two, three, four, five hours a day. It's not the climate warriors sitting at home and they're kind of tapping away at their MacBooks. It's regular working people who are paying the price for this ideology. And so that's why I started my, you know, my campaign with that pledge. And it's funny, I talk to people, you know, I come on shows like this and we have a national audience. People might be thinking, what's so good about $3 gas? Because that's normal. Less than that in most of the country. Here in California, despite the abundant oil reserves, literally here in Bakersfield, where we are, we're paying the highest gas prices in the country. Higher than Hawaii in the middle of the.

[Jack Posobiec]

Where it's completely imported, where they have to bring in, they have to ship it in.

[Steve Hilton]

It's insane.

[Jack Posobiec]

You're here and I was looking up, because it was my first time in Bakersfield, right? Looking up a little bit of the history. I just always like to do that when I travel. And it was, you know, gold rush originally, gold rush town, and then, you know, just a 50s, 50 or so years after that oil boom and it just became a massive oil boom town. And you're telling me they can't even drill the oil here the way that they should be able to?

[Steve Hilton]

Yes. So not that long ago, a few, before the kind of climate zealots took over. Most of the oil that we use in California. Be produced in California? Sure, why not right here in this county.

[Jack Posobiec]

And that's what they do in Texas.

[Steve Hilton]

Exactly. Now because they are, every single day they're shut, they're attacking the oil producers. And so the production has gone down and down and down. Almost every time I come here and I talk to the industry, the barrels that are produced going down. So now we are importing nearly 80% of the oil we use in California. So after all these years of the war on fossil fuels, the amount that we use is basically the same. The difference is we are now importing it from halfway around the world. What's our number one provider of oil in California? It used to be California. It used to be in state. Today. Iraq. Iraq. Iraq is.

[Jack Posobiec]

We've got Iraqi oil that's coming in all the way over.

[Steve Hilton]

I mean, wait on giant super tankers.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, the super tankers, which is the.

[Steve Hilton]

Most polluting form of transportation.

[Jack Posobiec]

If you actually care about the environment, you'd think that you wouldn't want to do that. This is going to be great. We've got Steve Hilton here. He's on for the full show today. We're so excited he's here. And we're here, by the way, because tonight we're going to be appearing on stage with Megan. Kelly.

[Steve Hilton]

Kelly.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, I'm so excited about that. We'll be here giving you a little bit of a preview, talking a little bit about California and other things because I want to talk about something that's going on back in D.C. the funeral unit party right back. Jack Boic, Steve Hilton. Human Events Day daily.

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[Jack Posobiec]

Now it's time for everyone to understand what America first truly means. Welcome to the second American Revolution. All right, Jack. We are back live here in Bakersfield, California. We're in studio with Steve Hilton, perhaps the next governor of the great state of California. Pardon me, folks. Anyone that knows me and knows the work that human events does day in and day out knows the conservative movement never stops. And the fuel that keeps me going all the way from the east coast to Bakersfield, I'm back again. Is blackout coffee. So for years, blackout coffee has been my coffee of choice. I know that so many of you are getting on board as well because it's so delicious. It tastes so good. It's not just coffee. It's America in a cup. Founded on Christian values, rooted in family and built on the belief that hard working Americans deserve better than that corporate swill you get over the counter. Blackout coffee is a family business that roasts every batch with right here in the usa, two roasts you got to try. Morning Reaper. A smooth medium roast that kicks off your day without bitterness. And for the dark roast lovers, that's me. Brutal awakening. A bold, rich flavor with a deep roast that will keep you sharp and alert. Steve, what do you do? Are you, you, you smooth or you dark roast guy?

[Steve Hilton]

So you know, I'm going to be. This is heresy. I. I still.

[Jack Posobiec]

Are you a tea guy? You're going to tell me.

[Steve Hilton]

I'm going to tell you that. Here's the thing. Proud American.

[Jack Posobiec]

Same way.

[Steve Hilton]

Let's just be clear. I'm not just a proud American. Just so that you're really clear. I have actually.

[Jack Posobiec]

Race, folks. You just lost the race.

[Steve Hilton]

I have formally. No, wait. Renounced my UK citizenship.

[Jack Posobiec]

Okay.

[Steve Hilton]

So there's the whole thing you have to go through. And I've done that.

[Jack Posobiec]

But.

[Steve Hilton]

But I'm sticking with the tea. I'm so sorry to say.

[Jack Posobiec]

Guys, we are going to get him an entire bag. No, you know what? An entire yearly subscription to Blackout.

[Steve Hilton]

Okay.

[Jack Posobiec]

And you are going to be completely converted once you try this.

[Steve Hilton]

Well, actually, should I tell you the story? So the reason I stopped coffee was that many, many years ago, back in England when I was running my business, we had a little office in Soho. Yeah. And this was the days when smoking was legal. I used to smoke a lot before I had kids. And me and my we. Our office was kind of small and across the street in Soho in London was a fantastic Italian coffee shop.

[Jack Posobiec]

Sure.

[Steve Hilton]

And we would go there and have our meetings there because it was a nice place to have a meeting. And basically I would have all day long double espressos and a cigarette. And they kind of went together.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Steve Hilton]

So when I thought I've got to stop smoking. But, well, maybe the connection with coffee was driving it. So I'll stop the coffee and maybe that'll help me stop smoking. So that's how it all went down.

[Jack Posobiec]

So what we need to do, we need to Americanize this. No double espressos. We'll do. We'll start smooth. We'll start with the Morning reaper. We'll start there.

[Steve Hilton]

I love the branding.

[Jack Posobiec]

She loves the brand. Is fantastic. Because. And you know, go into the rest of it. We know that Christmas is coming. Thanksgiving, of course as well. New Year's you want coffee at the holiday time when you're bringing people together.

[Steve Hilton]

So by the way, I love the smell of coffee and love that.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, here's the thing. If you want that all 12 year months of the year, you can get a subscription because what they do is they send it to you. They even have like, it's sort of a flavor of the month option. So if you want to, you go to blackout coffee.composto and use promo code poster for 20% off your first order. Again, that's blackout coffee.composto. try the flavor of the month because then you get to see. I like this one. I don't like that one. Try something new. It is the variety of life. And Steve Hilton, we are gonna, we are gonna spice up your life as well.

[Steve Hilton]

Okay. I love it. You're good at this. I love it.

[Jack Posobiec]

I gotta try. I gotta try. What can I say but Steve. So speaking of, we're talking about life, but we also have to talk about a funeral. So the end of life, which is going on in Washington, D.C. right now at the, or I should say took place earlier. And this was the funeral of Vice President Dick Cheney. And, you know, I was looking at some of these videos and looking at some of the, of the situation, and I thought, you know, it's, it's, you know, okay, it's a vice president. You know, we know the Chinese, we know the Bushes. That era. It is what it is. I didn't, I didn't even really want to talk about, you know, it as a news story. But something struck me, looking at these videos and I seeing the people who are there and the, the names that are there.

[Steve Hilton]

You've got Rachel Maddow, amazing.

[Jack Posobiec]

Sitting next to Anthony Fauci, James Carville. You've got Kamala Harris, you've got both Bidens. No Clintons as far as I can see. Correct me if I'm wrong, guys, but I'm not seeing any Clintons there. This is the ancien regime.

[Steve Hilton]

Exactly.

[Jack Posobiec]

The ancient regime, the old regime. This is the uniparty. What struck you when you were looking at this?

[Steve Hilton]

It's so funny. When we walked in, when I walked into the studio and we were just chatting before, the show had exactly the same sense. I just saw a few minutes of it back in my hotel room and I just thought what it was actually when President Bush was giving his eulogy and there was something. So it just felt like from a different age, like, wait, this was the president and he's talking about Liz Cheney and referencing this Family and what they did together. And it just felt so, from a different era, everything about it felt completely out of place. Just, wow.

[Jack Posobiec]

You look at where we were 10 years ago and everyone thought going into the, you know, so 2015, going into 2016, everyone, you know, all the, the smart people, the smart money Knew that the 2016 campaign would be Hillary Clinton versus Jeb Bush.

[Eric Trump]

Right, right.

[Jack Posobiec]

That was going to be, you know, that was your, your, that was, it was a fait accompli. And probably, and I said this the other day, probably Hillary was going to seam roll him and, and that would, you know, but then the Bushes would still sort of be around and they'd have a governorship and maybe he runs for Senate. You have a few different things like this. And then, you know, their kids, the next generation, the grandchildren of, of George Bush senior start coming up. And yet Trump came in and the populist movement came in with him and just totally rearranged American politics completely. And, and they're all still there. And yet prior to today and prior to looking at these images, I think that's why it was so startling because we just, they just don't have the influence they once did. And I wanted to bring this up. Not only is 9, 11, the Iraq war, the war on terror, the financial crisis, the bailouts. Exactly. That was at the very tail end of Bush. And I would argue that both of those combined have had the most profound impact on all of our politics today.

[Steve Hilton]

Well, I'm glad you did.

[Jack Posobiec]

And we don't even talk about the people who did it.

[Steve Hilton]

No, exactly. And it was actually the economic aspect of that was the real moment, if you like, the sort of wake up for me around the Uni Party and everything that they represented. I remember really clearly because it's almost like you remember President Trump at Butler and he talks about the chart that saved his life when he turned his head. There's one chart that really kind of woke me up in terms of my orientation towards the populist movement, which was I wrote a book in 2015 called More Human Designing a World Where People Come First. I did the Update for early 2016 for the US edition. And in the chapter about economics, one of the chapters about poverty and so on, I was getting US data and I saw this chart and it showed the income, the earnings of the 80% of the population, roughly, they call it non managerial, non supervisory workers, regular working people. The chart of their earnings after inflation since the 70s plotted against corporate earnings and corporate profits.

[Jack Posobiec]

And the stock market's going it was.

[Steve Hilton]

Absolutely stunning earnings for most Americans after inflation. Completely flat since 1974. Flat and everything else up like a hockey stick. But the top 20% and for corporate earnings and profits, and that was the moment I thought, it's totally failed.

[Jack Posobiec]

There's a phrase that, there's the phrase that I've heard to describe this and they call it, I Wish I Could Claim Credit. It's not. They call it the silent recession. The silent recession because you've got so many people, perhaps people here in Bakersfield that are stuck in this economic stagnancy.

[Steve Hilton]

Yes.

[Jack Posobiec]

Then you've got young people, millennials, Gen Z, that are trying to break into the system but are facing all of these headwinds. But you've got so many people who, to use the slang, they've already secured their bag and so they don't even see that all of this is going on around them. Exactly. If you're already in the real estate market, if you're already in the stock market, life seems great because you're, you're above that line. You're in the hockey stick territory.

[Steve Hilton]

Exactly.

[Jack Posobiec]

And this, I think this drives all.

[Steve Hilton]

Of our politics, I really do. And that's why this, you know, the Trump era transformation is just so profound. And the reorientation of the Republican Party to become the working class party, the majority, representing the majority of, of, of regular workers interests is just amazing. That transformation, I remember at the beginning of that I, it really coincided with when I started hosting my show on Fox News, the Next Revolution. I remember saying at that time, with Trump at the helm, the Republican Party has the opportunity to become a multiracial working class coalition. An opportunity, well, that's completely been delivered. It's a massive transformation, a historic transformation. And the other thing that's so satisfying about it for those of us who supported the president right from the beginning is if you look at the data, and it's too soon for this, this administration. You look at the data towards the end of the first Trump administration, that whole pattern was reversed. And the people whose earnings rose fastest percentage wise during the first Trump administration, the bottom 20% of workers, they did for the first time in half a century. They, their position improved more rapidly than anyone else in the income scale.

[Jack Posobiec]

And I've said this, it's funny, I was talking to producer Angelo here on the show today and I said, you can't understand the MAGA movement if you don't understand the importance of your, your, what they call the B tier and C tier cities in America. Yeah, right. These are. So I'm from, you know, Pennsylvania, so my B tier, you know, this would be like your western Pennsylvania, Appalachia, J.D. vance territory. These areas, they don't have a, don't necessarily have a professional football team or the Steelers are there. But, but you know, it's areas that are sort of overlooked. The flyover country, forgotten America, and this idea that there's so many communities out there that have just been completely overlooked. President Trump calls him the forgotten man, forgotten woman. And those people are struggling. They're struggling so much. And then you've got Gen Z. And this was something that my friend and yours, Charlie Kirk, exactly spoke out against over and over and over and said, you know, you guys think there's this, this generational warfare that's going on right now because they feel like they are being oppressed, that they're being pushed down by so many of these pressures. I don't think. And just to, just to put it all back and we're going to a break here in a second. But you're right, though, all of that was predicated on the Bush bailouts. So the pop. We would have had no populist revolution or at least it wouldn't have caught on the way that it did did if we didn't have the Bush bailouts of 2008, the financial crisis, the response to it, where it's just true. It's just true. The rich were handed everything. Exactly. Everyone else had the ladder pulled up right in front of them. Going back to a break, Jack Posobic, Steve Hilton here. Human Events Daily Live on location, Bakersfield, California.

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[Jack Posobiec]

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[Guest/Supporter]

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[Jack Posobiec]

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[Steve Hilton]

Exactly. It's all going to be taken care of.

[Jack Posobiec]

And you're going to. And you're, you're going to Gavin Newsom. Of course he's here in California and somehow he's presided over all of this and he wants to use this to try to launch a presidential campaign. And you see this. Now, I know Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania. He was my county commissioner. Now he's the governor. He wants to run for president as well. And yet he has a complete track record of failure. I see the same thing with Gavin Newsom. Is it possible for him to take this message and just overlook the mess of California to a national scale, or are you going to be able to stop?

[Steve Hilton]

Well, my plan is to be the governor not only cleaning up the mess in California that he left behind and thereby improving the lives of Californians, but in the process showing the rest of the country the scale of the mess so they can avoid the calamity of bringing that nationwide. I mean, if you look at the failure in California, it is total and complete on every single front. It's actually kind of genius the way he's been able to fail. And the Democrat regime, they've had one party rule now here for over 15 years. Every single thing the worst in America. It's an amazing thing. The other day the Wall Street Journal wrote an editorial on Elise Stefanik entering the race to become New York governor. And I agreed with most of what they said, except for one sentence at the end. We said, it is hard. This is the quote. It's hard to think of a state more in need of political change than New York. Well, I can think of. So I wrote a letter and they published the letter. And I went through just the facts. Right, right. How many times we talked. Follow the data. Okay, right now, California has the highest unemployment rate in America. The highest poverty rate, the highest costs for gas, electric, water, insurance, rent, homes, everything to do with housing. Chief Executive magazine does an annual survey of the states in terms of which is better or worse to do business. California for the last 10 years, worst out of all states. 50th out of 50. 50th out of 50 for affordability. 50th out of 50. U.S. news & World Report does a ranking for opportunity. It's just every single thing. I used to make a joke in my speeches about. Well, there is one area where, where we're not the worst in America. That great success story. Roads are roads in California only 47th out of 50. I look, when I wrote this letter, I went, it's at the Wall Street Journal. I better get my facts right. I went and checked every single data point that I was about to make my joke about the roads. I looked it up. Now we're 50th on that as well. I mean, it's absolutely stunning. It's a total failure. And the point that everyone needs to understand around the country is this is what happens when the left get everything that they want because they've been in power with no restraint whatsoever. Every statewide office, the super majority in the legislature, so that they can pass anything that they want. Republicans have had no input or ability to constrain that. They run all the big cities, all the big counties. This is what you get. We've seen this far left experiment play out here in California better than anywhere else. And the results are a total disaster. And the people hurt the most are regular working class Californians, small businesses, those who can least afford. I mean, we haven't even got into crime, homelessness. I mean homelessness, the, the squalor of, of our Great cities. It's just, you know, education. We haven't talked about reading scores, math scores, the worst in the country. I mean, everything is a disaster.

[Jack Posobiec]

And the impact of illegal aliens as well. Exactly. Probably pound for pound, one of the states most affected by this issue.

[Steve Hilton]

Exactly. And of course, affects everything else, because health care costs, the housing crisis, the. The schools where you have. I mean, I'm on the road the whole time. You go to communities where the parents are in despair because the kids in that trying to learn at school, you have so many languages, people don't speak English. It's just a total disaster. And yet he seems to think he could just ignore all that and run for president. And so far, especially on the left, the media just letting him get away with it because they think he's a successful political showman. Of course that's true, he is. But the record has to mean something. And I think it's incredibly important that all of us who really know the record make sure the whole country understands just what a disaster he has been. And the core of it is that he's just not interested in governing. Not interested and no aptitude for governing. And you see this with all this is what you get from one party rule. It throws up these kind of machine politicians whose only skill is navigating the political system. They've never done anything else. They've never done a real job. And so they just, they think that saying something is the same as doing it. For example, nearly a year ago now, after the LA wildfires, by the way, the disaster caused by their policies, the fire we now know started by an arsonist, but the fact that it was such a disaster entirely due to their ideology and incompetence, the fact that they didn't clear the brush on those hillsides, they didn't have proper, you know, the empty reservoir, all those things we know. But at the time, Gavin Newsom stood there in the smoldering remains of the Palisades and said, we're going to have a Marshall Plan. This is a quote, a Marshall Plan to rebuild. Nothing's happened. He just says these things, you know, Karen Bass, the mayor, I think this.

[Jack Posobiec]

Is up at all with. Was it Spencer Pratt? He's been.

[Steve Hilton]

Yeah, it's fantastic. He's so good on this.

[Jack Posobiec]

So good.

[Steve Hilton]

But here's a really, really specific example that tells the story of California failure. Karen Bass, about a few months ago.

[Jack Posobiec]

And avowed Marxist, by the way.

[Steve Hilton]

Yeah, exactly. So she does this press conference and she puts a social media post that says, I have just Signed an executive order streamlining permitting to rebuild la. And I remember thinking well that's good, four months too late. But whatever the actual quote, I have just signed an executive order tasking agency heads with developing paths forward to streamlining permitting. You got it there. In a nutshell. These are sort of BS Artists don't know how to get anything actually done.

[Jack Posobiec]

Exactly what it comes down to. Jack Posobic, Steve Hilton, a special guest joining us in the next segment here in Bakersfield, California.

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Where's Jack? Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job Jack.

[Jack Posobiec]

Thank you.

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What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys and these are the guys who'd be getting bullishers.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right folks, Jack Posobic here back live Bakersfield, California. Folks, cold weather will be here before you know it. And you know what I realized the other day? Well, it's simple. If the power goes out when it's really cold. It's actually a little bit cold here in Bakersfield today. I have no way to keep myself and my family warm. Isn't that crazy? You could actually freeze. But then I heard about the Vesta off grid space heater from our friends at my Patriot Supply. It's a space heater that doesn't use electricity. It runs on something called canned heat which is an indoor safe fuel with a Vesta Stashed in my closet. I know we can keep warm no matter what. And it doubles as a stove to boil water or cook food, which is pretty cool. Now, the best part is you can get a Vesta and a bunch of other free gifts when you order the winter prep special from my Patriot supply. So just go on over to my patriotsupply.com jack and see everything included. This offer won't last long and neither will the nice fall weather. So go to my Patriotsupply.com jack today. That's my Patriotsupply.com jack. Okay, we got about five more minutes until our special guest shall remain nameless. It's not Megyn Kelly. Not Megyn Kelly, for the record, but we've got a pretty cool event coming up tonight. So we've got, we got Megyn Kelly, myself, yourself, and Victor Davis Hansen, as well as Charlie Sheen.

[Eric Trump]

Really?

[Steve Hilton]

This is it. So I've really met, like, imagine how I feel, Jack, you know, as a. My parents, immigrants from Hungary, they fled communism and grew up in a regular working class household in England. And then here I am, move to America, become a citizen, my wife and my two sons, and here I am on stage with Charlie Sheen. How about that? Of course, Jack, you know, you're, you're the one I was, you know, all those years ago back in England thinking maybe one day, maybe I'll make it and I'll be there with Jack. But Charlie Sheen, of course.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, yeah.

[Steve Hilton]

Well, I mean, what a country this is.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, you know, it's, I mean, you look at Charlie Sheen and I look at the films, right? And some of the most paid matriotic films. This, maybe he's in Platoon. He does Red dawn, which, so you know, you know Amanda, right? Amanda Milius.

[Steve Hilton]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

So Amanda Milius, of course, good, good friend. Huge, huge name in the movement. She's the daughter of John Milius who made that film, but talks about, but yes, he made Red Dawn. And then Charlie is the, you know, is the lead in that. And actually, you know, unfortunately, I do actually hear that John. He's not doing so well health wise. And so, so we're, we're absolutely praying for him. And then he also, Charlie Sheen plays Ricky Vaughn in Major League. Ricky Vaughn then became the sort of non de plume of, of Douglas Mackey, who was the guy who got arrested by the Biden administration for meme.

[Steve Hilton]

Right, right.

[Jack Posobiec]

But his picture was Ricky Vaughn from Major League played by Charlie Sheen. But it was, of course, he took the Ricky Vaughn character and put him in a maga hat So I don't know if Charlie's ever actually done that. So maybe, you know, you know, maybe throw some stuff up. But it's, it's, you know, it's just an incredible, it's incredible situation. I think that when you look at the. That's the flip side. Right. So we talked about the Anshen regime. Right. And their funeral. This is the new, you know, the new Republic, the new coalition. The new. Exactly. It makes sense to have a guy like Charlie Sheen. You know, maybe he's not coming out as a Trump supporter, but someone who just wants to speak freely.

[Steve Hilton]

Freely. Just as you were speaking. That's what I was. It's free thinkers. It's people who are just like, this is America.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yes.

[Steve Hilton]

We're not going to be told what to do, how to behave. We're going to conform. We're not going to be bossed around in any way. And I just feel that spirit, that rebel spirit that really was captured in the 24 campaign. The Trump campaign was so thrilling. The way you saw people coming together and the way that the president handled that and was just, you know, everyone who wants change, let's all get together. You don't have to agree with every single thing that I say or whatever, but we're all on the same team, which is for, you know, helping lift up regular working people in America and that rebel alliance aspect of it, maybe.

[Jack Posobiec]

It was so exciting you said that because you go look at Charlie Sheen's films. Those are the types of movies he made. He made movies for the regular American movies. Navy seals. I didn't mention Navy seals, a great movie. He jumps off. They're at the wedding and he jumps off the bridge and he's swimming out of the car and into the, into the water. And, and then even, even when he does Wall street with Gordon Gekko, that's, it's, it's a cut up of Wall street and like. And if I remember correctly, because his father is in that Martin and plays a union.

[Steve Hilton]

Union guy. Exactly.

[Jack Posobiec]

Union guy. And it shows how the union guy is able to sort of get one over on. So it's very much a pro working class movie. Those are the types of films that used to be made in Hollywood, which. Not too far away from here. And they've, I feel that they've completely been divorced from this, this art sort of America, which, you know, it's, it's so strange because you're here in California and they live right next to each other.

[Steve Hilton]

Exactly. And that's the majority of Californians.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right.

[Steve Hilton]

And you know, I'm. The great joy of doing this job of running for governor is I'm the road the whole time across the whole state. And we have everything here. You know, you go up, I was just the other week up in the northern part of our state, Sierra County, Nevada County, Siskiyou county, you could be in Wyoming. I mean, you've got ranches and, you know, epic landscapes. As far as you can see, the farming community here in the Central Valley are hugely supportive of everything to do with our ag industry. All the parts of California, the kind of regular working class parts of our state that are just not reflected in that elitist coastal culture. They just look down their noses at it. And the fact that you've got people in charge in California who are actively crushing two great industries actually right here in the Central Valley, our energy industry, oil industry, as we talked about earlier, and our farming industry, they're deliberately crushing it. It's unthinkable. For example, the way that they're denying our farmers water to grow our food. And by the way, the healthy food.

[Jack Posobiec]

Speaking of movies, that, that is the, that is the plot of Chinatown. Jack Nicholson.

[Steve Hilton]

Exactly. So, so, you know, they're deliberately doing that in the name of their ideology.

[Jack Posobiec]

What is it?

[Steve Hilton]

Who control the water, control the power, you base it. That's exactly right. Well, that's, that's what's happening right now. And they do. And they're crushing our farmers. Imagine it's unthinkable that they would say in the name of climate, which actually would be a stronger argument for, well, you know what, we're going to take electricity away from Google. And.

[Jack Posobiec]

We'Re going. So our episode yesterday is now going viral because we talked about how these data centers that are now being built up and you know, we see the rise of AI, we see the technology, we see that, you know, obviously we see the, you know, the potential for good, but also how that's going to be. It's playing a direct role in an attack on jobs in the United States. And these energy resources, these energy resources and these data centers are pumping up prices for Americans right now, today. And, and they're cutting. Another friend of mine has Alex Fasulo up in upstate New York. She's, you know, documenting some fields and grasslands that were previously protected, but now we're being told that, oh, the solar panels get a waiver from all.

[Steve Hilton]

Exactly.

[Jack Posobiec]

Because they're friends with the greenies and they can put in whatever they want. And they say, oh, it won't have.

[Steve Hilton]

An Effect, but it's the most disgust thing I've ever seen. I made a video of it just the other week, you know, just not far, just up the road here in the Central Valley in the Westlands Water District, Federal water district, particularly bad on this. And in the previous regime, just like miles and miles of the most fertile farmland in the world ripped out, replaced with solar panels shipped across the ocean. Someone made in China.

[Jack Posobiec]

Hold on, someone who's talked about this. The solar panel industries, I think. And before we go to break here, I want to bring in our special guest, ladies and gentlemen, Eric Trump joins us now on Human Events Daily. Eric, do we have you?

[Eric Trump]

Yeah, we. Guys, this is the world I know a lot about.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, I was just going to say, well, your father has spoken about this quite some length. We're here in Bakersfield right now and obviously this is something you know quite about as well.

[Eric Trump]

Listen, energy is everything, guys. I mean, attract gdp, you know, GDP growth around the world and it's directly correlated to energy costs. Right? At the end of the day, if you have, you know, if you want high energy, you know, GDP growth, you need low energy costs. And you can do that. You take a state like New York, and I know that state as well as any human being, and guess what, they've shut down half of the nuclear power facilities in that state. You wonder why, you know, you need to take land and you need to put solar farms out there because they've shut down all the best energy supply. They have a great, you know, nuclear facilities called Indian Point just north of the city. It's in Westchester County. They literally shut the thing off. And guess what? Everybody's, you know, power supply costs went up by 40% as well. So listen, New York's a mess. New York is an absolute mess. They've got the best natural gas under its, you know, under your feet. You've got the Marcellus, you've got the Utica, you've got, you know, you've got some of the greatest natural gas reserves anywhere on earth, you know, in New York and not far outside the city. That state could be so energy independent, but yet they resort to all these kind of crazy measures and it's, it's a shame that they do.

[Steve Hilton]

Yeah. And it's exactly the same Steve here, Eric. And it's exactly the same here in California. We have literally right under our feet. We're in Bakersfield, in Kern county, abundant natural gas. We are now importing 90% of our natural gas in California. And our natural gas.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, wait, tell Them. Tell them where you're reporting it from.

[Steve Hilton]

Well, oil. The number one supplier of oil for California now Iraq, Eric, it's from Iraq.

[Jack Posobiec]

They got oil from Iraq to California.

[Steve Hilton]

Even though we haven't got natural gas power stations that could be providing affordable, reliable energy. They are running them at 10 to 15% of capacity because they're obsessed with windmills and solar. It's so insane and it's just crushing putting prices.

[Jack Posobiec]

Eric, respond to that, respond to that. And we've got a, we're cutting out to break in 30 seconds here.

[Eric Trump]

Yeah, I mean quickly, I, I want, I want everybody to take a look at the difference between New York State and Pennsylvania. You just go right on the opposite side of the river. Right, right in between the state and the Pennsylvania side where they actually explain exploit natural gas they've got. Every single gas station is new. The, you know, the greatest CVS is, I mean the infrastructure is perfect. It's beautiful. Then you go to the New York side and it's the exact opposite of that. Pennsylvania has literally taken all the, the, the net worth and you know, all the wealth.

[Jack Posobiec]

Seen it right back. Steve Hilton, Human events.

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Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it. And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event. And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.

[Jack Posobiec]

Amen. Jack. Back live, Bakersfield, California. We're here with Steve Hilton in person. We've got Eric Tracy Trump joining us. And Eric, I Just have to show, you know, I think people have mentioned, you know, your father had a couple of choice truth socials earlier today, and media, of course, is losing their minds. But I wanted to go and play the actual clip that he was responding to and then get your reaction to it. Guys, let's roll that clip of the Democrats right now.

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I'm Senator Alyssa Slotkin.

[Jack Posobiec]

Senator Mark Kelly.

[Eric Trump]

Representative Craig.

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[Eric Trump]

Aluisio.

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Congresswoman Maggie Goodlander. Representative Chrissy Houlihan.

[Eric Trump]

Congressman Jason Crow. I was a captain in the United States Navy, former CIA officer, former Navy, former paratrooper and Army Ranger, former intelligence.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

Officer, former Air Force.

[Jack Posobiec]

We want to speak directly to members.

[Eric Trump]

Of the military and the intelligence community who take risks each day to keep Americans safe.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now. Americans trust their military.

[Eric Trump]

That trust is at risk. This administration is pitting our uniform military and intelligence community professionals against American citizens like us.

[Jack Posobiec]

You all swore an oath to protect.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

And defend this Constitution.

[Eric Trump]

Right now, the threats to our Constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but from right here at home.

[Jack Posobiec]

Our laws are clear.

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[Eric Trump]

You must refuse illegal orders.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution.

[Jack Posobiec]

We know this is hard and that it's a difficult time to be a public servant.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

But whether you're serving in the CIA, the army, or Navy, the Air Force.

[Jack Posobiec]

Your vigilance is critical.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

And know that we have your back. Because now, more than ever, the American people need you. We need you to stand up for.

[Eric Trump]

Our laws, our Constitution.

[Jack Posobiec]

Eric Trump, what's your reaction to that?

[Eric Trump]

I wrote an entire book about this. It's called Under Siege. It's called a story about how they weaponized every single department in the federal government. They use the FBI, they use the DOJ to spy on my father's campaign. I mean, in the eyes of all those people right there, is that legal? Are you allowed to spy on an adversary's campaign now? Are you allowed to do that? Only because my father is a Republican and not a Democrat and. And not on their team. Right. Should those people have, quote, unquote, refused that order? How about breaking into Mar A Lago? How about. How about breaking through the gate at Mar a Lago with 30 FBI agents and going through Melania's drawers and going through Barron's closet and taking my father's medical records and taking, you know, protected under HIPAA and taking his attorney client documents? I mean, how about the Russia hoax? I mean, how about the Dirty dossier. How about having Hillary Clinton literally fund a dirty dossier, which is totally lies. It's all slaves, slanderous to try and affect her political opponent. Or how about making up the lie that we had secret servers in the basement of Trump Tower that were communicating with the Kremlin? The FBI knew 100% that it was not true. I told them, I invited them into the Tower, go look at any room you want. Go look for any servers you want. It was all made up. And they let this perpetuate for a three year period of time. I mean, should they have refused the order to do that? I mean, my answer would have been yes. And then they. I get to hear this guy talking about a corrupt administration. All they did was try and silence our family. They tried to take us out. They 91 indictments against my father, 112 subpoena against me personally. I became the most subpoenaed person in American history for never doing anything wrong. Mug shots of my father every day. Taking him off the ballot in Colorado, you know, was that constitutional? Was that their constitutional duty to take a Republican nominee off of a ballot in a state. State not allow their people to speak? How about Maine, when they did the exact same thing? How about censoring my father? You know, taking away his First Amendment right? Take him off of YouTube and Twitter and Instagram and Facebook. Right. I mean, literally, we had to create truth social in order to have any kind of voice, you know, how about the gag orders from every single one of these corrupt judges? How about the $400 million?

[Steve Hilton]

Well, now it's amazing.

[Jack Posobiec]

And I know I'm calling for that. I mean, to me, and I say this as I was in the Navy, I was an intelligence officer in the intelligence community. I've never heard this kind of language from senators directly speaking to members of military members. The intelligence community.

[Steve Hilton]

Yeah, I mean, it's totally reckless and disgusting, but it's part of how they behave. And what's amazing, just listening to Eric there, the way you lay it all out, it shows why your book is so necessary to. Because just the scale of it and the endless nature of it, on and on and on in so many different ways, it's easy to forget. Not least because in the second administration, so much is being accomplished on a policy front and we're just focused on that all the time. But just looking at what they've done, the question, Eric, is do you feel that we're moving towards real accountability for all of that which happened to you and your family?

[Eric Trump]

Steve, I Think that's why they're petrified. And let's, by the way, for all the, you know, service members who are. Who are petrified, right? I mean, isn't it kind of ironic that under Joe Biden, it was the worst recruitment? I mean, they couldn't fill any of their quotas. They were, you know, not only could they not fill their quotas, but they were actually removing all the standards because it was the only way that they could get people into the United States military. Yet, you know, under my father and Pete's headset, isn't it really amazing that you have the greatest military recruitment in the history of the country? But obviously you have the greatest military recruitment in the history of the country. You did a total 180 change in what, a period of seven months. But you only have the greatest military recruitment in the history of our nation because people are petrified of this. You know what they're not petrified of? They have a commander in chief who will actually act. They have a commander in chief who will stand behind them, not do. What Barack Obama did was prosecute every single person who took out a terrorist. Right. And court martial them. I can't tell you how many of my friends were cartoons marshaled for doing their jobs, yet my father stands behind all these people. And don't you think that the men and women in the United States military and our intelligence agencies wants a world where there are no wars? How many wars has my father stopped at this point? What, eight? I mean, under my father's first term, they had fighter planes that couldn't even take off. Pretty much the first thing that they told him when he went into 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue was, sir, don't start any conflicts because we are out of ammunition. United States of America is out of ammunition. And yet, you know, all these service members are so petrified to have, you know, Donald Trump as commander in chief. Give me a freaking break.

[Jack Posobiec]

And it's, and it's just, it's just dangerous. It's so dangerous because when you have a system like this, when you have a system that's become so adversarial that it, the politics don't end at the ballot box when they continue into the jury box. And as I've said, and we've all, you know, experienced this recently with the loss of our friend, you get the jury box and then you get the bullet box, and that's what's so dangerous. And Eric, not just, not just the loss of our friend Charlie, but your own father had shots taken at him. And Corey Compatori, of course, was murdered out in Butler. Eric, do you think that they will stop on their own or do we need to do something to really put pressure back in the opposite direction?

[Eric Trump]

Jack, of course they won't. Their policies are horrible. Their policies are horrible. It's why we won 11 counties in California that had never been won before. It's why we won the popular vote. It's why we won every single swing state. Right? I mean, their policies are absolutely horrible. So what do they do? They resort to violence and they resort to weaponization and they resort to being obstructionists. That's all the Democratic Party knows. You know, they're not winning the American people based on having 6 foot 5 men swim in women's sports. They're not, they're not winning hearts and minds with that, right? I mean, they weren't winning hearts and minds of the military members because they had zero recruitment. They write, none of their messages are like, DEI is dead. They didn't like people kneeling for the, for the national anthem on NFL football teams across the country. The Colin Kaepernicks. Right? They didn't like the war on family. They didn't like the war on faith. They didn't like the war on our First Amendment rights, our freedom of speech. They didn't like any of this. They didn't like, you know, the revisionist history that was being taught in school schools. They didn't like what they were indoctrinating our kids with. And that's why they lost. And they have no party and they have no leadership and they have no damn message. And so guess what they do? They weaponize systems and they become obstructionists, which is exactly what you see right there. And it is such a shame for the United States of America.

[Steve Hilton]

And by the way, these are the people that endlessly lecture us about protecting democracy and the rule of law. When the shamelessness.

[Jack Posobiec]

Guys, I'd love to keep the conversation. We'll have to do this again sometime and in person. Eric, tell us again where to get the book.

[Eric Trump]

Honestly, Barnes and Nobles was playing lots of games. I just, I'm directing everybody to Amazon, number one New York Times bestseller. And I think, Steve, you probably know New York Times did not exactly want to give me the number one book in the country. Incredibly proud of it. We're selling like crazy. Go get the book on Amazon.

[Jack Posobiec]

Eric Trump. God bless to you and your family. Steve Hilton. Where can people go to get access and information on the campaign?

[Steve Hilton]

Steve Hilton4Governor.com F O R Steve Hilton ForGovernor.com we got it. We got to build a grassroots movement to beat this Democrat machine.

[Jack Posobiec]

God bless, man.

[Steve Hilton]

Great to see you, man.

[Jack Posobiec]

Thank you so much for having us today. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission. This is an iHeart podcast.