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Donald Trump
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Jack Posobiec
This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
Chris Bedford
A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran.
Jack Posobiec
This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobic. Christ is.
Narrator/Announcer
Our host tonight is Chris Bedford. Chris is the senior editor for politics and Washington correspondent for Blaze Media. His work has been featured in the Telegraph Compact and American Mind and the Washington Examiner, National View and the New York Post. Our guest tonight is Jack Posobic. Jack is the former Navy intelligence officer and has been the leading conservative voice for over a decade. As the host of Human Events Daily on Real America's Voice, he speaks to millions of viewers worldwide. Jack continues to be a regular guest on the host of the Charlie Kirk show, honoring his friend's legacy while continuing to shape the national conversation. Known for his fearless reporting and news analysis, Jack has also secured high profile interviews with influential figures like Vice President J.D. vance, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant and Donald Trump Jr. We're thrilled to have both Chris and Jack, two powerful voices in the movement, with us tonight. Enjoy the evening.
Jack Posobiec
One thing, by the way, that people also don't know about us is that we went through the Claremont Institute together. We were both Lincoln fellows in the, in the same cohort which, which Charlie Kirk did, I guess, two years after us. I want to say.
Donald Trump
Yeah, he was in the younger class.
Jack Posobiec
Yeah, I want to say. Oh, was he, was he Publius?
Donald Trump
No, no, he was, he was, he was Lincoln as well.
Jack Posobiec
Oh, he was like, yeah, okay.
Donald Trump
Yeah, he's just, he just graduated after we did. We're the old heads.
Jack Posobiec
Yeah, we are the old, the old heads here. But you know, it's, it's, it's really great to be here and I appreciate this. You know, it's, it's interesting because we, we had, had this scheduled a while ago and you know, I was, I remember throwing it on the calendar and they said, are you going to be free? You know, I don't even know what day it is. Oh yeah, it's, it's October 9th. And that day in October, I said, yeah, I don't have anything going on. And, and my schedule was, was wide open a month ago. And then, you know, I was doing my show at our, our real American Voice studio here just down the street. And you know, I got the news about. At first it was just a, you know, a rumor that there was a shooting about Charlie and you know, then everybody knows the rest of the story. And I've only actually, you know, I've been in Phoenix for probably about the Past three and a half weeks with, with Turning Point, working with Turning Point, working with Erica and just being there, being supportive. And political violence has gotten to the point where we've talked about it for many years. I wrote a book about it, I've experienced it, I've covered it. But it's gotten to a point now where it is threatening every single person in this room, the guests included, and even all of you out there. Because if you are a conservative in America today, that means to live your entire life, 24 7, top to bottom, when you wake up, when you're going to your car, when you're going to work, when you're coming home, when you're going out, when you're taking your kids to school, you could be killed. And it's blunt, but it's the truth. And I went to the White House yesterday and I was honored to be a part of this panel that we held on left wing domestic violence that's going on in America. And I said the exact same thing and even said to the president that Mr. President, the next person who could be assassinated could be sitting at this table right now and probably is. And so it's gotten to the point in this country, certainly in the wake of Charlie's murder, and only gotten worse. And I think there's a certain profile that's starting to emerge when you look.
Donald Trump
At.
Jack Posobiec
Gen Z, when you look at the zoomers, I tend to notice there's sort of a. It's like there's no middle. So that's great when you're on the right because everyone's like cool and based and awesome. But that means on the left, you turn towards the most extreme possible solutions, which include political assassination. So we've seen who Luigi Maggione, right, Thomas Matthew Crooks attempted to kill President Trump. This guy Tyler Robinson at Utah Valley University, who I think it's starting to emerge that there's some that he came from a conservative family but was rebelling against, that ran in the other direction. Mormon family. And the ICE shooter down in Dallas as well also fits the same profile. The anti Catholic shooter in Minneapolis fits the profile also. Many of these cases, the, you know, there's a tie to transgenderism and that ideology which has directly direct ties with violence.
Donald Trump
It's a very big election being watched by the world because he's done an incredible job. But with that comes some pain and they have some pain and now they're coming out of it. I think the victory is very important. Your poll numbers, I hear, are pretty good. But I think they'll be better after this. And, you know, our. Our approvals are somewhat subject to who wins the election, because if a socialist or in the case of New York City, a Communist wins, you feel a lot differently about making an investment. I think, Scott, you'd feel that if somebody that had no chance, and other words, if somebody wins and has no chance of ever having a great economy because of that philosophy, you would put a halt to what we're doing.
Scott
Yes, sir. And we're confident that President Milei is going to do well. We've been criticized by a couple of American Peronists like Senator Warren, so. And you know, she.
Donald Trump
She. That's a compliment. She has no idea what she's doing. A nasty, horrible senator. Go ahead. Other than that, I like her very much.
Scott
And she and her protege in New York, Mandame, who. I don't even think he's a Peronist. I think he's more the Communist chavamissimo.
Donald Trump
So.
Scott
We stand with the President and what he stands for and the hope for the Argentine Argentinian people. And President Trump, just like you, he carries the young people. So it's hope for the future. The Argentines have made the decision to shake off 100 years of bad policy. They went from one of the richest countries in the world to a ton of debt. And I think that with the bridge the US Is giving them and the strong policies, that Argentina can be great again.
Donald Trump
Thank you very much. Please, go ahead, please. Thank you. Thank you very much. Do we have a interpreter that wants to. You will either have that has everyone understood? Because I think he made a very important, profound statement, actually. But we could have it interpreted if you want. Does anybody want an interpreter? Would you like that? Would you like it? Can the interpreter speak? What do we have somebody set up for that simultaneous. So if the President would like to repeat his statement, we can do it. No, that's okay. Don't worry about it. We'll leave it that way. So it's an honor to have you here and I just want to tell you that your career has been an amazing one and it's going to continue with the election. You're going to win the election. We're going to endorse you. I'm going to endorse you today. Fully endorse you. And, you know, people in Argentina like me, a lot of people like me. I'm even surprised myself. But we had a great week. We had a great weekend. We had a great period of time in the Middle East. It was Very comprehensive. It went very rapidly and I think it's going to lead to something that's going to be unrecognizable, certainly for the Middle East. What's taken place in the last few days, People can't believe it. I've never seen anything, anything like it. I've never seen the love in the spirit. And I've done a lot of things. I've done a lot of deals. I've done a lot of political deals where countries come into line or whatever, but I've never seen anything like this. The level of love. And it has to do with the mystique of the Middle East, I think, because if I did other countries, I did. I did seven other settlements of wars, complete settlements of wars, and it was very well received. But this is something I've never seen anything like it. The media covered it very fairly and even the fake news, of which we have a lot, they actually covered it fairly for a change. And I appreciated that. We have to get back to that. It's so important. But I just want to say it's a pleasure to be with you and we're going to have lunch and we'll take a couple of questions from the news and I'm sure they'll be extremely non hostile and friendly. Like JD Went through a very frustrating, friendly interview with George Sloppadopoulos, who was nice enough to pay me $16 million the last time we came. He had to pay $16 million to me, which was good. It was worth it. It was worth having somebody lie. If you get $16 million, that's good. But JD had a very nasty person interviewing him and we can't let that happen. Just as inappropriate to cut off a highly respected Vice President of the United States mid sentence. I guess it's one way to win an argument. That was the only way he was going to win the argument. So it was pretty inappropriate, I want to tell you that. So thank you very much. Do you have something there?
Jack Posobiec
Yes.
Donald Trump
Oh, great. Thank you. That's fantastic. Thank you. When he did this letter, Mr. President, your settlement in the Middle east wasn't done. Ah. So we have to do a new letter. Let's do it to include. Because this is a very important. You'll have to add one extra sentence. Exactly. That's great. Thank you very much. This is a great. Such a beautiful statement. Thank you very much.
Jack Posobiec
You're welcome.
Donald Trump
That's beautiful. Thank you, Mr. President.
Jack Posobiec
Mr. President, how is this.
Donald Trump
Why don't we talk about Argentina first? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And how Is Argentina going? Are you worried about the influence of China in Argentina? Sorry, go ahead.
Jack Posobiec
How is this Argentina rescue package?
Donald Trump
America first.
Jack Posobiec
And is this rescue package meant to help President Milei's party in the coming election?
Donald Trump
No, it's helped. It's really meant to help a good financial philosophy where Argentina can, after 20 years of disaster, because it was very successful at one point and it can be again, like Venezuela. Venezuela was very, very successful and now it's a dictatorship. So we can, when we can help our neighbors, you know, we're making tremendous progress in South America. South America. Marco was telling me my. He's like our great expert here. He really does it. You were telling me that so many of the countries are coming our way and we had a few years ago when I, when I just came back. So I've been here now almost nine months. But when I just came in, I was amazed to see how poorly we've done. We lost so many. And one of them was Argentina would be lost if he wasn't there. And I think he will be there because the people recognize he's done an amazing job. He took over a real mess. So did I take over a mess. I took over a mess by, you know, the Biden group. And Obama was, he started it. I'll tell you, Barack Hussein Obama started at. Could you give a couple of words on South America? You were telling me so well yesterday how well we're doing. Go ahead.
Marco
Well, first of all, we have now eight or nine, 10 countries, Argentina being foremost among them, that have aligned with the United States on issue after issue in international community events all over the world. In fact, these great allies like Argentina, but I can go into others, Costa Rica, you know, I don't want to leave anybody out. El Salvador, you know, But I think one of the more promising to the developments is later this month there will be an election in Bolivia. After 25, 30 years of anti American hostile government. Both of the candidates running in that election and the runoff election want strong, better relations with the United States and another transformative opportunity there. So I think this is important. This is our hemisphere. It's where we live. And having strong neighbors such as that.
Donald Trump
And great progress has been made and we'll make more over the last nine months. Really, over the last nine months. The president from Argentina want to say this. Do you imagine soon a free trade agreement with Argentina? Could it be possible soon? Yeah, it will be. Well, we're going to discuss some of it today. But no, we're. We want to help Argentina and we Want to always help ourselves, but we want to help Argentina. And one of the ways we can do. They have great product and we used to do a lot of trade. And then if you look at what the Democrats. Well, they didn't know. They didn't know. Honestly, they didn't know what they were doing. But a lot of that trade disappeared and they have great products. So we will be trading with Argentina. It will be helpful to them and it's good for us also.
Journalist/Interviewer
Mr. President, was China trying to draw a wedge between the US And Argentina by buying soybeans from Argentina and not US Farmers?
Donald Trump
I would say so.
Journalist/Interviewer
And China on the port seas.
Donald Trump
China likes to draw things on US Ships too. Yeah, sure. I mean, I guess that's natural. It's China and it's natural, but it's not going to. It's not going to mean anything in the end. Should Argentina end the China swap and close the space base in. I don't think you should be doing business much. You can do some trade, but you certainly shouldn't be doing beyond that. Certainly shouldn't be doing anything having to do with the military with China. And if that's what's happening, I'd be very upset about that. Yeah. You do understand, Mr. President, what about the swaps? Because it's so important for Argentina.
Scott
The American assistance is. Is not predicated on the swap with China being closed. Any reporting to that effect is incorrect.
Donald Trump
You said. Sorry, but you said that Argentina has to expose China from your business or from your agenda and the swap is so important.
Scott
No, I was referring more to ports, military bases, observation facilities that have been created in Argentina.
Donald Trump
Than the swap. More than this one.
Scott
More than the swap.
Donald Trump
He was referring to that. Yeah. Behind you, please. Yes, President. For Argentina. What's the benefit for United States in help in this way? Argentina just helping a great philosophy take over a great country. Argentina is one of the most beautiful countries that I've ever seen and we want to see it succeed. Very simple. I mean, we don't have to do it. It's not going to make a big difference for our country. But it will in terms of South America, if Argentina does well, you're going to have others following and a lot of others are following. You have countries in South America that two years ago would have never even been thought of to go as democracies or as just countries that want to do fair and balanced trading. And now all. I mean, you mentioned Bolivia, but there are numerous other countries that are coming our way. And Brazil, as you know, I Had a very good conversation with the president. I met him at the United nations before I went up to speak. And then I found that he didn't have a speech because I had no teleprompter. They turned off my teleprompter purposely. They made it impossible, but it didn't silence me. I spoke without. And it was a good speech, but no, think of that. You go into the United Nations, I'm speaking in front of 158 leaders and the whole world, and I look at my teleprompter and it's dead. They killed my teleprompter. They wouldn't let the man that operated into the booth. Can you believe that? You don't have any specific, specific interest in economic terms for the. I do have no. I want to see it succeed. I think it's going to be great, and we will benefit also. But it's not that big a benefit because it's not that big a country, but it's a very important country, and it's a country that can be very successful. There are some countries that will never be successful. This is a country that has great potential if it has the right leadership. And you have the right leadership with this man right here. Okay.
Jack Posobiec
Mr. President, would you support dollarization?
Donald Trump
I would say that I'll leave that up to my. My economic people. But I like. I like the dollar. I'm very strong on the dollar. And anybody who wants to deal in dollars, they have an advantage over people that aren't. But for the most part, we're keeping it that way. I think if Biden would have, you know, Biden, that group would have gotten elected. Meaning, Kamala, you wouldn't have the dollar as your currency anymore. You wouldn't have a world domination by the dollar. If I didn't win this election and now the domination like brics, I told anybody wants to be in brics, that's fine, but we're going to put tariffs on your nation. Everybody dropped out. They're all dropping out of brics. BRICS was an attack on the dollar. And I said, you want to play that game? I'm going to put tariffs on your.
Scott
On your.
Donald Trump
All of your product coming into the U.S. they said, like I said, we're dropping out of Brics. And Brics is like they don't even talk about it anymore. Scott, do you want to add to that, please?
Scott
We're very happy with the current currency arrangement.
Donald Trump
You ready to see fake news, Mr. President, first of all, congratulations. Congratulations. I don't take questions from ABC Fake News. After what you did with Stephanopoulos, to the vice President of the United States, I don't take questions from ABC Fake News. Brian, go ahead. Yes, sir. First of all, congratulations on achieving peace. You are indeed the peacemaker. On a lighter. Did you ever think I was going to be called the peacemaker? Actually, I did. I saw some of the actions you were. Go ahead. But on a lighter note, Alyssa Farah, she is one of the hosts on, on ABC's show the View. She said a while back, I'll quote, if Trump gets the Israeli hostages out, I promise I will wear a MAGA hat for one day on this show and say thank you for doing it. Your response? Well, did she put the hat on? Well, she hasn't got the hat yet. Who is it? Which one, Elizabeth? Well, she used to work for me. So. She used to work here. I'll tell you about Alyssa. She worked here. She gave me the most beautiful letter. When you know the administration, the time came up, the election was rigged. I left. She gave me the most beautiful letter you've ever seen. I was a great president. What a great job. Some of the letters have been quoted. This is Alyssa, who I never thought was very outstanding. I figured she would not make it. And she didn't have a big role here either. And then we had January 6th, and she left after that or before. But she gave me the most beautiful letters. And then even months after she left and while we weren't here any longer, she sent another letter, glowing letter, beautiful letter. And then she got hired by the View and they gave her a couple of bucks and she changed her view very quickly. I never thought she'd make it. Never thought she had what it took in any way. You know what that means. But she's on the View. But it just shows what a fraud the View is, because this woman gave me letters and statements. She said I was the greatest president in her lifetime. Now, she's not that old, so I didn't consider it a great compliment, but. But I've had better. Can we send her a hat? Well, recently I've had the greatest president of them all. I like that much better. Does that include Washington and Lincoln? Yes, sir, it does. I see. And I like that president. So I think she's a total. I think she's a joke.
Chris Bedford
How long will it take Hamas to disarm? And can you guarantee that is going to happen?
Donald Trump
Well, they're going to disarm because they said they were going to disarm. And if they don't Disarm. We will disarm them.
Chris Bedford
How will you do that?
Donald Trump
I don't have to explain that to you. But if they don't disarm, we will disarm them. They know I'm not playing games. Okay? Now, we did something monumental. We got the hostages back. That was the first thing we had to do above all else, get the hostages back. Now, they misrepresent it because we were told they had 26, 24 of dead hostages, if we can use those terms. And it seems as though they don't have that because we're talking about a much lesser number. But that's a very tough subject. I want them back. That's what they said. I want them back. Also, they said they were going to disarm. And initially speaking, they needed. You know, they did take out a couple of gangs that were very bad. Very, very bad gangs. And they did take them out and they killed a number of gang members. And that didn't bother me much, to be honest with you.
Scott
That.
Donald Trump
That's okay. We had a couple of very bad gangs. You know, it's no different than other countries. Like Venezuela sent their gangs into us and we took care of those gangs. We have. Washington D.C. is one of the safest cities in the country. It was one of the worst cities in the country. If you go back just a little while ago, right now it's safe. You can walk to work. Isn't it nice? But we have told them we want disarm and they will disarm. Disarm. And if they don't disarm, we will disarm them. And it'll happen quickly and perhaps violently, but they will disarm. Do you understand me? Because you always. Everyone says, oh, well, they won't disarm. They will disarm. And I spoke to Hamas and I said, you're going to disarm, right? Yes, sir, we're going to disarm. That's what they told me. They will disarm or we will disarm them. Got it? Okay.
Chris Bedford
What is the deadline? Sir, you said quickly, but what is the deadline? You're going to put on a reasonable.
Donald Trump
Period of time, Pretty, pretty quickly. A reasonable period of time.
Chris Bedford
Congratulations on the piece you achieved in the Middle east, first of all. And my question is regarding Argentina.
Donald Trump
Does continue. Are you from Argentina?
Chris Bedford
I'm from Argentina, yes.
Donald Trump
I like the Argentina. I like them much better than abc. Did ABC fake me too.
Chris Bedford
Does continued US Support for Argentina depend on the results of the upcoming legislative elections and the ability of the government to pass long lasting reforms through Congress.
Donald Trump
Well, I think if they don't do that, we're not going to be around very long. Scott, can you handle that one, please?
Scott
We're confident that the president's party will and the coalition will do well in the election. And this aid is predicated on robust policies and going back to the failed Peronis policies would cause a US rethink.
Donald Trump
Thank you very much. It's a little bit, it's a great question. It's a little like New York. You know, you're reading in Argentina about New York. We have a problem. We have a communist who's 33 years old, doesn't know a damn thing practically. He's never worked a day in his life and he sort of caught on. Right. And I'm not going to send a lot of money to New York. I don't have to. You know, the money comes all through the White House. And if they're going to be sending us stupid policies, I mean communist policies which has proven for thousands of years doesn't work, we don't have to prove it again. We're not going to ruin one of our great cities because we'll make that great. We will clean up the crime in about 30 days. Took 12 days to do Washington D.C. so New York is bigger and Chicago, we've already made a lot of progress despite fighting from the government. But we'll. Chicago is doing great. Memphis is doing really great. You know, we have great support there from the political leaders. They said please come in and clean up crime. And we love it. We've in one week Memphis is so good. It's so much better. We'll have it within a month we'll have that into a safe city again. And all of these cities, we want to clean them up. We don't like that opposition. But if somebody is going to be a communist mayor of New York, it's a fluke if he gets in. There are a lot of failed people that he's running against. I mean we have failed. You have inferior candidates or something because it's impossible to think that New York City can have a communist mayor. He's a communist, he's not a socialist by the way. There's a big difference. He's a communist. Maybe he's down and dirty. He's a communist. He hates police. He wants to get rid of all police. I mean, how can a policeman. He hates Jewish people and yet he's got Jewish people supporting hates Jewish people. So it comes through the White House. The funding For New York and for every place comes through the White House. And I'm very generous and I was always very generous with New York, even when you had opposition there. But I was always was very generous. But I wouldn't be generous to a communist guy that's going to take the money and throw it out the window. Because you're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars. And we're not going to let somebody get into office and squander the taxpayer money from this country. We're not going to let it happen. So it's a little bit like that with, if you take a look Argentina, if the president doesn't win, I know the person that he be running against, I believe probably we probably have the person. A person is extremely far left and a philosophy that got Argentina into this problem in the first place. So we would not be generous with Argentina if that happened. If he loses, we are not going to be generous with Argentina. Mr. President, you talk about Argentina important in the Latin America. What is your plan for Venezuela? But is the you the terrorism, the narco terrorism in the President Maduro, what is your plan about this? Venezuela has done a couple of things very badly. Number one, we get drugs and all of that, but we get something in a way worse because they're a big purveyor of drugs, but we have worse. What they do very well is they send their criminals into the United States and they send trends that you know very well you're from Venezuela, I assume. And they send them in by the thousands, literally. And these are the worst of all. And they emptied their prisons into the United States, they emptied their mental institutions into the United States. And because we had a president who is low iq, he didn't realize what was going on. And the people that are high IQ that surround him, but they happen to be lunatics. Radical left, they're highly intelligent, right, Radical left, lunatics. Okay? So in a way that's worse than having a guy like Biden. But they ran the show. You heard about the auto pen, the person that, that really operated the auto pen. But it was really the people that told the person that operated the auto pen what to do. Those are the people that really were president, okay? So we're not going to stand for it in this country. And, and by the way, that auto pen thing is under serious investigation. Just this. I don't think you care because you're from Argentina. You couldn't care less about that. But I just want to say because I do the weave, you know, the weave cover a Lot of different subjects. But the people that are involved in that auto pen scam, because he barely signed anything. I mean, this guy, I don't know how you can be president. He barely signed it. But the only thing we can find for sure is that it. He signed Hunter's pipe, his pardon, Hunter's fighting. I like that. That's a combination. So. So we're going to work very much with the President. We think he's going to win. He should win. And if he does win, we're going to be very helpful. And if he doesn't win, we're not going to waste our time. Because you have somebody whose philosophy has no chance of making Argentina great again. What's your advice for President Steve? Go ahead, Steve. What's your advice for. Just to check something. You said Hamas assured you that they would disarm. Was that a direct conversation or through Mr. Witkoff? Through my people at the highest level. What's your advice for President Mile and.
Journalist/Interviewer
Argentina as a political leader?
Donald Trump
My advice is to hold strong to his principles because he's right and he's proving that he was right. He's got one problem. He's got people that are giving him tremendously bad press even though they know it's wrong. He's got to hold true to his principles because he's going to win. He's going to win. He's doing the right thing. Everybody knows he's doing the right thing. But you have a radical left, sick culture. That's a very dangerous group of people, and they're trying to make him look bad. I believe he's going to win out China. Well, you have to be careful with China. Everybody deals with China. They have to deal with us, too. We have to be careful with China. Look, I have a great relationship with President Xi, but sometimes it gets testy because China likes to take advantage of people and they can't take advantage of us. But we have a fair relationship with China, and I think it'll be fine. And if it's not, that's okay, too. You'd have to do. You have to do. And go where. Where the punches are thrown. You. You got to put up the blocks. We have a lot of punches being thrown, and we've been very successful. Look, we have the most success. I think we're the most successful we've ever been as a country. We have now close. I've been saying 17. We have, I think, close to, or maybe even exceeding $18 trillion going to be invested in the United States. That's more Money than ever invested in any country before. Even countries with much bigger populations, like India or like China, Nobody's ever had $18 trillion invested in the country. We have. And that's because of November 5th election. Because I won. Oh, if. If she won, you'd be negative. You'd have people getting out of the country. This country was. Would have been. We would have been in a major depression if she won, we would have been 1929. They'd like to see that. Anyway, that's why they keep the government laws. They have a shutdown based on nonsense. They want to give away 1.5. Think of it. They want to give away $1.5 trillion to people that come into the country illegally. And as you know, the borders now are closed. But when they hear that, that they get the greatest healthcare package in the world and they have no money, but they're living okay in another country, they head up and they start forming caravans and they try and come into our country. But the big problem is they want to give. They want to give healthcare to people that should not get healthcare. They want to give healthcare to illegal immigrants by the millions. Look at Gavin Newsom, what he's done. He's ruined California. He gives health care to anybody. And I guess they do it for votes. I actually think it's bad politics, but I guess they do it for votes. So I'm with this man because his philosophy is correct and he may win and he may not win, but I think he's going to win. And if he wins, we're staying with him. And if he doesn't win, we're gone. And Argentina can help to the peace process, to the Middle east peace process. They can help by doing well. If Argentina does well, that's helpful because they know we help Argentina. So if Argentina is successful, that's great because they view us as somebody that helped Argentina and they did well, and the United States maybe will help them and they're going to do well. So the success of Argentina would be a great feather in the cap of the USA because we're helping them. Right. You understand?
Narrator/Announcer
Yes.
Donald Trump
Please. Behind you. Behind you. Thank you. Mr. President, last week you said that NATO should consider expelling Spain. What? You said that NATO should consider expelling Spain. Would you support that?
Journalist/Interviewer
NATO consider expelling Spain?
Donald Trump
Oh, checking my beer. I'm very unhappy with Spain. They're the only country that didn't raise up their number to 5%. Every other country in NATO raised up to 5%, and Spain is doing very well. Off our backs. So I'm not happy with Spain. Spain gets protection and they know, you know, look, they're sort of in the semi middle of it. So they're going to get protected automatically. Even if you don't want to protect him, you're protecting them because of the way they're located. And I think what Spain did is a very bad thing for NATO. I think it's very unfair to NATO. It wouldn't matter if you said you're not going to protect them because they're pretty much protected. You know, what are you going to do? Go through the other countries and let's go attack Spain. Right. So I think what they did is not nice. I think it's very disrespectful to NATO. In fact, I was thinking about giving them trade punishment through tariffs because of what they did. And I may do that. I think unbelievably disrespectful. Spain, the only one, out of all the countries in NATO, the only one that said that is Spain. And I think that's, I think they should be punished for that. Yes.
Journalist/Interviewer
The government shutdown. You have the money to pay the troops on October 15th.
Donald Trump
Okay, how do we have a man who is a very wealthy person, you know that when I tell you this, who called a donor, a great gentleman, and he said, if there's any money necessary shortfall for the paying of the troops, that I will pay it, meaning he will pay it. How about that? I said, look, we're not going to need it. We're going to take care of our troops. But this was a position that's being forced upon us by Democrats. And all they have to do is just sign a piece of paper saying we're going to keep it going the way it is. You know, there's nothing, it's not like it shouldn't even be an argument. They've signed it many times before. I don't want to bore you with the fact that Schumer said 100 times, you should never close up government, but Schumer is a weakened. I mean, he's going to finish his career as a failed politician. He's a failed politician. He's allowed the radical left to take over the Democrat Party. So if they write books about that, if they write books about him, they're going to have to say that his career ended by allowing the radical left to take over the party. I mean, I won an election in a landslide because people are not into the radical left and the Democrat Party is. People didn't want to see men playing in women's sports. They didn't want to see transgender for everybody. They didn't want to see all of the different things that they do. That's so crazy. Open borders. I mean, the biggest. The worst thing that he did to us is not inflation because we fixed inflation. Prices are way down. I don't know if you saw that gasoline went to 58 just now for. Did you see what's going on with gasoline?
Journalist/Interviewer
We tracked that.
Donald Trump
No. $58 a barrel. Nobody can believe it. I'm very proud of it. You know why? Because we're pumping like we've never pumped before. Because with. If you get the gas price down, everything else comes down. It's very simple. And he. He went away from my policies and you had the greatest inflation. The last administration had the greatest influence inflation in the history of our country. And now, as you know, groceries are down. It's all down.
Journalist/Interviewer
Are you settling in for a long. Is this going to be a long term? Are we looking months?
Donald Trump
All they have to do is just vote to extend. We don't need it. We're not saying we want money. We don't. What we need is a right to extend. They want a right to extend, but they want $1.5 trillion so they can give it away to illegal immigrants. The people that are invading your cities. And many of these people, for whatever reason, I mean, I understood this. I called it a long time ago. These countries are run by people. I know, friends of mine. Like I know this gentleman. I hope you haven't said. He probably did, too. Why not? They send up their worst people. They send up people that are criminals. They send up people from jails. And at best, the best ones they send up are people that don't work very hard and that are on a social form of welfare. And they're sending those people into the United States. I don't blame them. I'm angry at them, but I don't blame them. But I'm really angry at Biden and Kamala and that group of lunatics for allowing it to happen. Because it's the hardest thing now. You know, we're sending them out is. It's incredible, the job that Christie and Tom Holman and the whole group is doing, but we shouldn't have to be doing that. We're doing a lot of work on getting people out of here. Trend Aragua has caused tremendous damage. And our soldiers are great. You know, our soldiers are now based on merit. They're not based on woke because we won the case in the Supreme Court, which was the bravest case. I have such respect for the Supreme Court because of what they did with merit. Because our country was built on merit. Countries are destroyed on woke. You know, I made a statement and I hated to make it because it sounded bad, but everything turns to, you know what, when it goes woke, you remember the term. I don't like to use it because you might have some children listening, but it turns bad. And no, we have a. We have the hottest country right now anywhere in the world. That's why he's here. That's why every other country wants to meet here too. But we only have so many hours in the day and days in the week. But get the hottest country. Think of it, we were a dead country a year and a half ago and now we have the hottest country anywhere in the world. It's pretty good. Did a good job. Okay. Any other questions? Would you like to visit Argentina soon? There is an invitation for that. What does that mean? Do you like to visit Argentina? I do. I would love to. I'm just a little busy. I'd love to go to Argentina. I'd like to be like Biden. I'd like to go to the beach. You know, my legs are not quite as thin as his. My legs are slightly heavier. My arms are slightly larger. My body is a little bit larger than his. I'm not sure it would be appreciated on the beach, but I'm not going to take a chance. You won't see me in a bathing suit. You won't see in a bathing suit sitting on a beach in Argentina falling down, not being able to lift. A three ounce chair meant for old people to lift and he couldn't lift it. So we had a problem. He spent too much time in a beach. Somebody told him that he looked good in a bathing suit. And you see this guy on the beach all the time. I never quite understood. Steve, go ahead. Preview your meeting with Ukraine President Zelensky on Friday. You expect to talk about weapons. Is there going to be a package, interesting meeting going on? Look, I'm very disappointed because Vladimir and I had a very good relationship. Probably still do. I don't know why he continues with this war. This war has been so bad for him. He's going into four years of a war that should have beaten. He should have won that war in one week. He's now going to soon be into his fourth year. He's lost a million and a half soldiers. Probably close, certainly in terms of wounded and no legs and no arms. And all the things that happen in horrible wars. It's a horrible war. That's the biggest thing that's happened since World War II. In terms of death. It's bigger than any of them. I settled eight of them. The biggest is that in terms of death. Incredible. I think India, Pakistan had great potential. We did a great job of that one. But he's got to really settle this war. And, you know, they have long lines waiting for gasoline in Russia right now. Right. They have long lines. Who thought that was going to happen? And all of a sudden his economy is going to collapse. And I'd like to see him do well. I mean, I had a very good relationship with Vladimir Putin, but he just doesn't want to end that war. And I think it's making him look very bad. He could end it. He could end it quickly. And I have to tell you, I give credit because who would think that Ukraine could have fought Russia for four years to essentially a standstill? Now, there has been some early, early, you know, before they knew what the hell was happening because it happened quick. Biden should have never let that happen. That's a war that should have never happened, but it did. But it's not making Russia look good. I will tell you that. We'll be talking about Ukraine. Yeah. I mean, I have the president coming in on Friday, and we'll. I know what he has to say. He wants weapons. He would like to have Tomahawks. Everyone else wants Tomahawks. We have a lot of Tomahawks. Tomahawk is a. Do you need any Tomahawks in Argentina? You need them for your opposition, I guess, because, see, in this country, they'd use Tomahawks for the opposition. I don't do that. I'm much nicer. The Democrats would use them if they had the chance. They're sick people. Go ahead.
Journalist/Interviewer
Are you worried that this plan with Argentina can fail?
Donald Trump
Anything can fail. Anything can fail. You never know. That's why I say Putin should do something about the war, because so far, I mean, it's turned out to be very bad for him. But anything can. So this plan can fail. Sure, it can fail, but it's got a better chance. I would say, Scott, it's got a better chance of success than failure. And if it's successful, it's an unbelievable success. It can transform your country into greatness. It's got a great chance. We'd like to give it a chance. Anything can fail, but we'd like to give it a chance. And we think because he's made so much progress, I mean, the work that he's done over the last four years is incredible, and it would be a shame to lose that progress. He's very close to having a big success.
Chris Bedford
Mr. President, will you consider removing new restrictions on the press? That report at the Pentagon? And have you spoken, spoken to Secretary Hegseth about this?
Donald Trump
I have, yeah. Well, he's finding. I mean, I think I can speak for him. I'll let him speak for himself. But I think he finds the press to be very disruptive in terms of world peace and maybe security for our nation. Press is very dishonest. Not you, but the press is very dishonest. You have something to say?
Journalist/Interviewer
Well, I very much appreciate the question because it was interesting to watch. We had a chance to go along on, on the historic trip of Middle east peace, which our generation of veterans never dreamed would be possible. So you would think that the Pentagon press corps of all press corps would be front and center across the board on wanting to give credit to the President for forging this kind of peace. And instead, what they want to talk about is a policy about them which simply says maybe the policy should look like the White House or, or other military installations where you have to wear a badge that identifies that you're press or you can't just roam anywhere you want. It used to be, Mr. President, the press could go anywhere, pretty much anywhere in the Pentagon, the most classified area in the world. Or also that if they sign onto the credentialing, they're not going to try to get soldiers to break the law by giving them classified information. So it's common sense stuff, Mr. President, we're trying to make sure national security and we're proud of the policy.
Donald Trump
You know, we have an option here as do as, you know, the press years ago moved into the White House, used to be across the street. We could move them. You're lucky I'm president because we could move them very easily across the street. They used to be there. They would have more room. We have a beautiful, nice space. You could sit all by yourselves and have fun. Instead, you walk around the White House talking to anybody that can bring. And you know, but, but I find that when it comes to war, and now our great Department of War, we have some great people over there. I think it sort of, it bothers me to have soldiers and even, you know, high ranking generals walking around with you guys on their sleeve asking because they can make a mistake and a mistake can be tragic. They can do it innocently too. They can, you know, and they're not press people. They don't really deal with the press. So they're not really necessarily good at it. Although I think it's mostly instinctual one way or the other. You're either good at things or you're not. But I could see you being bothered by that. So you have them in an area and you treat them fairly, but they're not allowed to go into much like somebody's office and sit with them for 10 hours. Yes, sir. Yeah, I can understand.
Journalist/Interviewer
Had some street takeovers that we saw.
Donald Trump
Are you.
Journalist/Interviewer
Is the mayor. Are you going to work with or try and work with the mayor of Boston? And then they have a World Cup. They have several World cup games. I know Argentina knows about World Cups. They have several World cup games. Could those games move to cities that do work?
Donald Trump
We could take them away. I love the people of Boston. I know the games are sold out, but your mayor is not good. There are worse than her. At least she's intelligent. Summer extremely low iq. Those bother me more. She's intelligent, but she's radical left. And they're taking over parts of Boston. That's a pretty big statement, right? We could get them back in about two seconds. All she has to do is call us. We'll go in and take them back. But she's afraid to because she thinks it's bad politically. She could take them back to. The Boston police are great. I mean, I know they love me. She'll never tell them to go after Trump because they love me and I love them. And I got. I got a tremendous police vote and military vote, you know, and firemen vote. All of them. No. I think she is hurting Boston. The answer is yes. If somebody is doing a bad job and if I feel there's unsafe conditions, I would call Johnny, the head of FIFA, who's phenomenal, and I would say, let's move it to another location. And he would do that. He wouldn't love to do it, but he'd do it very easily. You do it and this is the right time to do it. If I thought Boston was doing something that was going to be cause safety conditions for the, you know, World Cup, I could say the same thing for the Olympics because, you know, we have events that are in different locations for the Olympics. It's based in L. A. If I thought L A was not going to be prepared properly, I would move it to another location if I had to on that one. I'd probably have to get a different Kind of a permission, but we would do that. Gavin Newsom, he's got to get his act together, because had we not gone in at the beginning of my term, had we not gone in with a very strong, powerful force, they would have lost L. A. Now, you already lost 25,000 houses to fires. She got a big scar right in the middle of the street city. And that should have never happened because they should have had the water flowing in from the Pacific Northwest. All they had to do is open up the valves. He didn't want to do it, and he didn't want to do it, he says, for environmental reasons. I don't believe that. But, you know, for some reason, he didn't want to do it and lost 25,000. You had no. No water in the fire pumps. You had no water in the sprinkler systems, in the ceilings. There were no houses that normally the things would go on the. You might not have lost. You might not have lost two houses. So if he doesn't play ball, we're going to have to be very tough with him. He's done a bad job, you know, just to finish off on that. So when we went in, we did a phenomenal job. We went in with great force, and that was the end of it. We put it out. We extinguished that fire, which was agitation, and it was a very dangerous position to be in. And we went and did a great job. But the head. The chief said we could have never done this without President Trump and without the federal government coming in. Okay, that was it. He said that. Now, two or three weeks later, he said, oh, we could have done it. But he knows he couldn't. The city was going to be taken over if I didn't go in. And you have to remember that Los Angeles was going to be taken over. And we have it where the chief said it, I believe, numerous times. But that was as it was happening. That was a rough one. That was nasty. And if we saw a situation like that, yeah, we'd be forced to make a move. Boston better clean up their act. That's all I can say. Go ahead. One more question. Do you feel any urgency to end.
Scott
The shutdown in the next week, two.
Donald Trump
Weeks, or would you be fine if it stretches it in November and then toward the holidays with folks not getting paid? Well, you know, shut down. We've had many, many shutdowns, and this is a shutdown that shouldn't have happened. A group of people brilliantly decided to make it after the election. I said, thank you very much. In Other words, give it to Trump instead of Biden. So it shouldn't happen. And likewise, debt ceiling shouldn't. But the big, great, big beautiful bill solved the debt ceiling problem. For is there a point where you would reach out to both parties? What's happening on the shutdown, though, honestly, can I put it in plain words for you? And you're a smart guy, so you all understand, but a lot of people don't. The Democrats are getting killed on the shutdown because we're closing up programs that are Democrat programs that we were opposed to. So we're being and they're never going to come back in many cases. So we're being able to do things that we were unable to do before. So we're closing up programs that are Democrat programs that we wanted to close up or that we never wanted to happen. And now we're closing them up and we're not going to let them come back. The Democrats are getting killed and we're going to have a list of them on Friday. Closing up some of the most egregious socialist, semi communist, probably not full communist, we're saving that for New York. But semi communist programs and we're closing them up. We're not closing up Republican programs because we think they work. So the Democrats are getting killed, but they're not telling the people about that. I say it. Nobody. Well, I haven't said it probably as bluntly as I just said it, but so we are closing up Democrat program that we think that we disagree with and they're never going to open again. Thank you very much. Thank you, everybody.
Jack Posobiec
He did not say all, like all black women. And so they do this over, over and over and over again because for them to have to admit that a good man was killed, that a family man, a Christian man, someone who they disagreed with, but a good man was killed, this would be an entire repudiation of their whole project because leftist politics is based and rooted in resentment. However, there's also this interesting game they play where they never admit it. They never admit it to themselves. You know, and I'm sure you've seen all the signs or, you know, heard the refrain from some redditor or some like, suburban woman, you know, just be a good effing person, right? You know, and they scream it over and over and over. And in their mind, to be good means to be associated with all the things of the left. And to be quote, unquote, bad is to be associated with all the things of the right. And I could sit here for Years and talk about. Or hours, I should say, and talk about how many years this has been in the making. I actually track a lot of it back to John Stewart and the Daily show because he was one of the first people that came up in America who started talking about politics because he didn't know anything about politics and. But he knew about sports. So he started talking about sport, politics as if it was just, you know, sports teams. And so the Democrats are like, the left were like the good ones and the right were the bad ones. And. And so we're against those guys. And he also, by the way, is one of. One of the people who shut down one of the last shows that existed in America where both sides would talk to each other. And that was Crossfire with. With an appearance that he made when Tucker Carlson, a very young Tucker Carlson. Bow ties. Tucker Carlson. Yeah, baby, baby. Tucker was the host. And he would, you know, he would yell and say, how dare you. You guys are the problem. But what were they doing that was so problematic? They were sitting down and having a cordial discussion about the issues and certainly disagreeing, but they would. This was the. Really, the last show in America where you would see that that doesn't exist anymore anywhere on the higher level. And one of the people who may have been trying to bring that back in some way in a modern form was Charlie by saying, look, if we disagree, then prove me wrong. Come. And if I've said something that is, you believe is misinformation, then what better way to have that out than having a debate on a college campus, the literal modern public square, and let's have a chat and figure it out. And he would always say, if you disagree, come to the front. And if someone was there, he wouldn't berate them and he wouldn't make fun of them, because I probably would. It's hard to have his patience. It's very hard. He was very patient. So to answer your question, where does it come from? It comes from this belief, which is completely widespread on the left. And poll after poll after poll shows this, that they, to a great extent, don't look at us as people. They look at us as some sort of sub creature. They look at us as cavemen. They look at us as people who are not as progressive and elite. History. Yeah, we're on the wrong side of history. And we have the same values as those, you know, those poor inbred hicks in middle America, you know, you know, crawling around on their hands and knees.
Donald Trump
And Jack, thank you for taking the time. Thank you for joining us tonight.
Jack Posobiec
Chris, always a pleasure, my friend.
Donald Trump
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Main Theme & Purpose
This episode centers on pressing issues in American and international politics with a special emphasis on political violence, U.S.-Argentina relations, threats to conservative figures, cultural divides, and ongoing conflicts in the Middle East and Europe. The guest of honor is former President Donald Trump, who shares his views and stories alongside host Jack Posobiec and guest host Chris Bedford, focusing on current events through a distinctly conservative, unapologetic lens.
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The episode is vigorous, unapologetically partisan, and candid. Trump and Posobiec use blunt language, direct attribution of blame, and frequent invocations of American values. There’s an air of camaraderie among the hosts and guests, interspersed with moments of brash humor and forceful rhetorical flourishes.
For listeners seeking in-depth, unfiltered conservative commentary on contemporary political crises—both at home and abroad—this episode stands out as an emblematic Human Events broadcast.