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Jack Posobic
This is an iHeart podcast. This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
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6, 7 Kevin
A commentator, international social media sensation and.
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Kingsley Wilson
Former Navy intelligence veteran, this is Human.
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Jack Posobic
Events with your host Jack Posobic. Christ is king.
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Unknown Supporter/Commentator
The epidemic of left wing violence and antifa inspired terror has been escalating for nearly a decade.
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Carlin Borisenko
President Donald Trump's Department of Justice is moving swiftly to prosecute alleged members of Antifa after he signed an executive order declaring the militant anti fascist movement a domestic terrorist organization.
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Unknown Far Left Activist/Commentator
Out of our state.
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Unknown Supporter/Commentator
These are agitators, anarchists, and they're paid.
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Carlin Borisenko
Accused of causing chaos and destruction, especially in American cities like Seattle and Portland.
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Unknown Far Left Activist/Commentator
They want to overthrow the government.
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Carlin Borisenko
But extremism researchers like Carlin Borisenko say in order to fully understand what fuels this decentralized network.
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Unknown Far Left Activist/Commentator
And so you're going to get really inside look at like the agenda of the far left.
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Carlin Borisenko
The Bay Area Anarchist Book Fair in Oakland is where to begin.
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Unknown Far Left Activist/Commentator
A lot of this stuff is about doing illegal stuff.
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Jonathan Cho
Like we just have to sort of watch our backs here.
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Unknown Far Left Activist/Commentator
I got you. I got you. A lot of this comes from their publishing company called Crime Think.
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Carlin Borisenko
Borisenko and I recently went undercover and discovered a disturbing world that goes beyond T shirts and New York Times best selling authors.
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Jonathan Cho
And this one literally says antifascist action.
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Unknown Far Left Activist/Commentator
Training martial arts for anti fascism. They are a decentralized group. That's very true. But it's like this is how they coordinates through the zines, through the publications, things like that.
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Carlin Borisenko
Borisenko says this is where the radical left organizes, recruits and indoctrinates the next generation of antifa militants.
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Jonathan Cho
So if I take this.
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6, 7 Kevin
Thank you.
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Carlin Borisenko
Generously giving away free propaganda material on how to mobilize for a violent direct action. Selling soccer scarves to fundraise for an antifa bail fund.
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Jack Posobic
Basically for folks that get into trouble.
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Jonathan Cho
With the government crackdown. What do you think is going to happen now? It's a good question.
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Carlin Borisenko
And pushing tons of material.
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Unknown Far Left Activist/Commentator
Yep.
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Jack Posobic
We're a bookstore and art gallery.
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Carlin Borisenko
Like these XXX LGBTQ comic books, easily accessible to children. Then there are the workshops, including a DIY abortion session where organizers claim women's reproductive rights are under attack in America.
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Jack Posobic
I know some of you have heard.
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Carlin Borisenko
About abortion cards teaching attendees how to make their own morning after pills. Through this video I can stop so.
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Jonathan Cho
That you clear it. And that's all that it takes.
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Carlin Borisenko
That's easily accessible on YouTube.
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Jonathan Cho
First dose left Misopristal is an incredibly safe drug.
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Jack Posobic
It's safer than Tylenol.
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Unknown Far Left Activist/Commentator
Abortion is critical to far left strategies because they believe it liberates women from being a part of the gender binary. The gender binary is one of the oppressive mechanisms of capitalism. And so if they can liberate women from the reproductive obligations that they have as women to raise kids, kids and capitalist families and stuff like that, they believe that's a blow to capitalism.
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Carlin Borisenko
The all day sessions ended with a panel on organizing against ice. Representatives from NorCal resist dressed up as Hamas terrorists in what they're now calling Keffiya block instead of black block, since they know federal authorities are scrutinizing Antifa.
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Jonathan Cho
More than ever.
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Jack Posobic
To counter their topics.
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Jonathan Cho
So we're constantly evolving, forcing them to change.
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Jack Posobic
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. We are here live on Real America's voice. Today is October 22, 2025. Anno Dominique, folks, absolutely amazing news. This is something that I've had for a little while, but of course have had to keep under wraps, even though I heard about it, of course, some certain things you just have to hold off for OPSEC purposes. Turning Point usa the Frontlines street journalism team infiltrated Antifa this past weekend. Two cells of Antifa in two separate states and in two separate cities. And we are going to be interviewing members of the team that participated in that infiltration very soon here on today's episode. So for all the people who want to say that Antifa is not real, that the organization doesn't exist, that, oh, they're, they're decentralized, they don't have a real leader. They don't have, no, no, it's a joke, it's a lie. And it's always been one. Antifa is the international arm of communism. They are the militant wing of communism and they have been for 100 years. They even have an Antifa professor. His name is Dr. Antifa, Mark Bray. He's over in Spain for some reason on the taxpayer dime out in New Jersey. Well, TPUSA did not take this lightly and in fact spent the weekend not only having people's front lines. The amazing thing about what these guys do, the men and women are front lines that not only do they literally put themselves into harm's way, put themselves into harm's way. And you saw many of them featured at the President's roundtable there at the White House. They're out there in Portland, they're out there in Seattle. They were in Chaz. They were in so many different things where bullets are flying, where tear gas is whizzing past them, where they're getting up close and personal with these radicals. But what does Antifa do when they're not out in the streets? Where do they go? How do they organize? How do they plan? Turning Point USA Frontlines is going to take you where they went. Inside the antifa cells, inside their planning, inside their ideological radicalization. And we will have them on to answer any questions. So by the way, send your questions in 1776 human events.com. that's 1776 human events dot com. Make sure that we get every single question answered that you want. Because this was no joke. These are people who are marked men. People that Antifa have a kill list out for. And we know that the kill orders went out after that roundtable of Antifa at the White House featuring the President. But you know something? We're not backing down. We're doubling down. This infiltration operation was a massive success. And we've got the information and all the details and of course, as always, the receipts. Coming up next, Human Events Daily. Right back.
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Unknown Supporter/Commentator
End in our wave and our golden age has just begun.
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Jack Posobic
This Human Events with Jack Pos now it's time for everyone to understand what America first truly means. Welcome to the second American Revolution. All right, Jack Paso. Look, we are back here, Human Events Daily. And folks, I've got a couple announcements that I want to make before we go into the Antifa infiltration. And the first one is going to be really interesting. You guys are going to like this. I know. I really like this. I'm super excited and I hope you will be as well. We are announcing a brand new partner here at Human Events Daily. A delicious and nutritious new partner. Yes, that's right. Human Events Daily is now partnering with Steak and Shake. Yes, that's right. Famous for the steak burgers, Famous for real tallow. And Human Events Daily is now partnering with them. We're gonna do a whole video on this and all the rest of Tanya, Tay and the boys get those beef tallow fries. See how the boys like them. But folks, let me just tell you something. Somewhere along the way, we traded real flavor for seed oils and processed junk. It is time to take back our kitchens. And here's what's great. Steak N Shake is here to help. Where they are introducing Steak n Shake's new 100% pure beef tallow. No chemicals, no fillers. You can actually get the tallow direct from Steak N Shake. Now we're talking the premium beef fat rendered the old fashioned way. I'm talking about the way that my Polish grandparents cooked. Okay, Right now they have Two options that you can choose from and you can check them out both@steakandshake.com and of course, you can steak and Shake with the letter N. There's their grass fed beef tallow, that's only $9 a jar. And then there's also their American Wagyu beef tallow. That's $12 a jar with a rich, buttery taste. Or you can bundle them both. Real simple 1999. Revolutionize your cooking. And Tanya Tay, I'll just tell you, she was so excited when I told her that we had this opportunity. You can fry the crispiest fries, sear the perfect steak, roast the vegetables bursting with real actual flavor. This is how food should taste. And you will see the difference immediately. Your taste buds will know. So bring tradition and taste back to your table with Steak and Shake beef tallow. Order now@steakandshake.com that's steak n shake with the letter N. So that's for all of our Maha brethren out there. I know we're all trying to live the Maha life a little bit more. And so get your beef tallow at Steak and shake dot com. New partner here with Human Events Daily. But I have another announcement to make in terms of partnerships that Human Events has been up to. We do a little. We do a little partnering behind the scenes. I wanted to bring this announcement to all of you. They may have heard recently over at the Department of War in the Pentagon. The Pentagon press corps staged this walk out, refusing to take part in the new standards and new rules for accreditation over at the Pentagon. And they said, oh, well, you're not going to be credentialed if we have to follow rules and do these things. And they were marching out with their boxes and their binders and, you know, they were going up on TV saying how they were the real victims and all of this nonsense. Well, the way I look at it is, gosh, what an opportunity to replace them. Ladies and gentlemen, I am proud to announce that Human Events is now a partner of the new Pentagon press corps as well as the Post Millennial. And here to explain exactly what that means and what that entails and what's all going to happen, we have Kingsley Wilson from the Department of War here to discuss it. Kingsley, thanks for coming back.
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Kingsley Wilson
Great to join you, Jack.
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Jack Posobic
Well, I just have to say thank you so much for the opportunity to be involved in the Pentagon press corps. Of course, as a prior Navy officer myself, I never, never expected to be, you know, involved in the department in such a way.
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Kingsley Wilson
But here we are it's fantastic news and we're so proud to have human events and over 60 other journalists that are going to be joining us here in the Pentagon. And you talked a little bit about the previous Pentagon press corps. They walked out because they refused to sign an agreement. That was simple, it was common sense. It said wear a visible press bad. Don't go in classified spaces, stay in the correspondence corridor and follow the building's rules. They refuse to do that. They self deported. That was their right, but also their loss because now we get to have incredible journalists like yourself who are going to be here in the Pentagon reporting on what the Department of War is doing every single day. It's really the next generation of journalism at the Pentagon and we're so excited for, for this new era and this new generation. I think we saw President Trump use this on the campaign trail so well. Right. He didn't have to rely on the mainstream media's corrupt filter to get his message out. He went to independent journalists, he went on podcasts and alternative news networks where he was able to speak directly to the American people. That's exactly what we hope to do here at the Department of War. And we're really excited to welcome this new group of 60 plus journalists. It's awesome.
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Jack Posobic
Well, and I have to say, by the way, just honored to have been included at the Navy's 250th birthday and tagging along sort of in the new media seat as well with the USS Bush and that display of naval firepower, the same firepower that the cartels are now getting a taste of down in the Marcari Bay when they're trying to infiltrate the United States and trying to cross into, get their illicit substances into our area. And you know, I was, I was, not to digress, but you know, I was on the Piers Morgan show yesterday and people were saying, oh, you know, how can the US do this? And I said, but wait a minute. The United States Navy and the Coast Guard have been interdicting small boats and interdicting gun runners and slavers and pirates and mercenaries and rum runners during Prohibition and all the rest for actually hundreds of years in the Caribbean. This is nothing new. And so it's, it's unbelievable to me that the press corps is just so deficient, or I should say the previous press corps was so deficient in understanding just basic history. Guys, it's, you know, it's worth a grok to understand that this is actually a mission that the United States military in particular, one the United States Navy, one that I'm proud of, to have been served in, has been doing for hundreds of years. And you know, I served at Guantanamo Bay right there in Southern Command. To US Outcome and that was, you know, prior to detention, operations had been a key base as a recalling station, a refueling station in these types of operations. This is nothing new. But again, just, you know, to point to something that's going on right now that clearly shows that the people covering the Pentagon, people covering the Department of War, have no idea what they're talking about.
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Kingsley Wilson
Absolutely. And that's why we're so excited to have folks like yourself, Jack, who were Navy intel officers, who understand this stuff, have that important perspective and are going to be able to tell the American people the ground truth of what's going on. Without the leftist ideology, without the mainstream media spin, the American people are now going to get the cold hard facts. And the cold hard facts are that what we are doing in the southcom AOR all across the Western Hemisphere is protecting the homeland and keeping the American people safe. That is something that President Trump campaigned on doing. It's something that Secretary Hegseth is incredibly focused on. And we will continue to ensure that people are not trafficking deadly narcotics into our borders, across our shores. It's totally unacceptable if we have that kind of activity in the Gulf of America or elsewhere. We don't have a country, we don't have a homeland that is secure and protected. And we need to make sure as a Department of War that we are keeping the American people safe. So these operations will continue. We had our eighth strike yesterday, our first, that was in the Eastern Pacific. And we will continue to seek out these narco terrorists wherever they are and make sure that we dismantle these narco terrorist networks. They can't be allowed to, you know, wreak havoc on the American people anymore. President Trump has said no, so this has got to stop.
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Jack Posobic
And by the way, Press Secretary Wilson, that the, and I, you know, I had this, I was on the Piers Morgan show yesterday. So it's back and forth and you're changing subjects rapidly. But I didn't get a chance to say this and something I wanted to point out and then people had said, well, why do the strikes instead of, you know, a VBSS visit board search and siege operation, like you may see. And President got to see a sort of demonstration of that, an evolution that was conducted off of the USS Bush where they had sent a Navy SEAL team to, you know, sort of conduct the VBSS on a destroyer, you know, a simulation of what it might look like at sea, but the response that I had is, do they understand how dangerous that is for our sailors, for our servicemen? Do they understand the harm that you are asking them to put themselves in? If they're going to try to, I don't know, board a semi submersible that's being run by drug runners to board one of these things, it's being run by cartel members. And so, yes, of course, as, as an, I got to say, as a prior intel officer, of course, we're always looking for more information, more intelligent sources of information. And so, you know, we understand that obviously with the strikes, you don't always get all of that information out, but absolutely, one of the biggest risks that you're talking about is conducting one of these VBSS operations. And, you know, again, it's. It's just goes to show you that I really think that there's a lot of people covering the Pentagon, covering the Department of War that are very glib. They've been very glib about this, and they pick a narrative and they run with it rather than actually talking to people who served, who have a basic understanding of how these operations work and what they mean for the servicemen. And that's obviously been something that, that the new Secretary of War has put first and foremost in his, in his duty.
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Kingsley Wilson
I couldn't agree with you more. And I think these strikes also that the President has directed send a message, right? They tell cartels across the region, think twice before you try to harm American citizens with your deadly narcotics and deadly drugs. That is an important message that we're sending. We've spent years as a military, you know, nation building, doing UN missions all across the world while we have ignored what has been happening in our very own hemisphere and at our very own border. That has ended thanks to President Trump and Secretary Hegsess vision and leadership. So many of these cartel drug networks have been totally dismantled. And we will continue to ensure that they are fully dismantled because that's what the American people deserve. And it has been disgraceful to see so many in the media carry water for a lot of these narco terrorists. You have people claiming that they're fishermen. Jack, you and I both know that if you have a semi submersible submarine, you're probably not a fisherman.
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Jack Posobic
No, the semi submersibles are not fishermen. I know. You got to run a second. Any other names that, that you're releasing at this point or where can people go to get the full list?
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Kingsley Wilson
Yeah, so we've got a lot of folks we're retweeting everyone from Dow Rapid Response, so go check out our account there. We've got great people. We've got Real America's Voice, which I know you're streaming from right now. We've also got the Post Millennial. So a lot of things affiliated with you, Jack. And we're very excited to have so many wonderful truth telling journalists that are going to be joining us here.
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Jack Posobic
It's a real honor. The Department of War Press Secretary Kingsley Wilson. And God bless and thank you and I will see you soon. And you better be ready for some tough questions. We'll be right back. Human Events Daily.
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Unknown Supporter/Commentator
Talk about influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine.
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6, 7 Kevin
Jack.
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Unknown Supporter/Commentator
Where's Jack?
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Jack Posobic
Jack.
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Unknown Supporter/Commentator
He's done a great job.
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Jack Posobic
All right, Jack Kobic, we are back here, Human Events Daily live on Real America's Voice. Want to play the next half of that infiltration documentary? Turning Point USA Frontlines going beyond the front lines into the heart of Antifa.
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Carlin Borisenko
Despite the change in appearance, their goals remain the same.
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Jonathan Cho
Because we're being so successful.
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Carlin Borisenko
Declare class warfare. Use the latest protest movement to destabilize the US government. Tear down capitalism and anything, anything related to Israel. Then usher in a violent revolution built on socialist and communist ideals. This playbook is pretty much laid out in all their material.
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Jack Posobic
Welcome to the Church of Satan.
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Unknown Supporter/Commentator
Anarchists.
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Carlin Borisenko
But most unsettling of all, multiple vendors embrace teachings from the occult and Satan.
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Jack Posobic
Worship explicitly anarcho Satanism.
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Carlin Borisenko
This man altered the Antifa logo and added prongs from a devil's pitchfork.
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Unknown Supporter/Commentator
Satan.
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Carlin Borisenko
Then ask people to put on this Lucifer mask and recite their allegiance to the Prince of Darkness.
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Jonathan Cho
Satan, the eternal rebel, the first free.
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Kingsley Wilson
Thinker and the emancipator of worlds.
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Carlin Borisenko
The next day Boris and I flew to the Emerald City to meet citizen journalist Matthew Adams.
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Jack Posobic
You can feel the heat.
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Carlin Borisenko
Who's been covering Antifa chaos for several years.
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Jack Posobic
They're absolutely trying to recruit for Antifa.
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Carlin Borisenko
We infiltrated the Seattle Anarchist Book Fair hosted by the Vera Project.
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Jack Posobic
They want to put our picture up there for being a fascist.
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Carlin Borisenko
And we're immediately greeted by a massive board featuring a so called wall of fascists. That's us in the photos. Once we got in wearing disguises. The messaging and the vibe were pretty much the same as the Oakland Book Fair. More far left propaganda calls for anarchist violence against the ruling class.
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Jack Posobic
I hope to see all of you soon.
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Carlin Borisenko
10 minutes and hyper sexualized content targeting minors. Borisenko even obtained a flyer for an Antifa direct Action in a city park scheduled for Halloween Eve. Stop filming.
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Jack Posobic
Please stop.
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Jonathan Cho
Fucking red pants.
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Carlin Borisenko
Adams and I were eventually outed and chased by a group of angry transgender activists.
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Jonathan Cho
Even with this amazing T shirt, they know us for these direct actions.
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Unknown Far Left Activist/Commentator
We're going to Left Bank Books, which is far left revolutionary bookstore.
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Carlin Borisenko
Borisenko spent the remainder of her time plotting out the constellation of bookstores in Seattle that are keeping these ideas alive.
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Jonathan Cho
He knows the direct action. Fascist, anti fascist errors.
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Carlin Borisenko
With more Americans now realizing the danger posed by Antifa and their followers, the.
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Kingsley Wilson
Rioters that were saying kill ICE agents.
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Carlin Borisenko
Federal authorities are also trying to disrupt the terror group's funding network.
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Jack Posobic
We are following the money, but like.
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Carlin Borisenko
A hydra, and I won't give a. Cutting off one head will likely sprout several others.
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Jack Posobic
They are harming everyday citizens in every.
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Jonathan Cho
Single one of our communities because Antifa.
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Carlin Borisenko
Is fueled by an allegiance to extremist ideology, not just a bank account.
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Unknown Far Left Activist/Commentator
So if law enforcement isn't looking at the bookstores and the book fairs, then they're really missing an opportunity to figure out what these people are doing.
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Jack Posobic
Just incredible work. And we're joined now by two of the members of that team, incredible intrepid journalists and videographers and. And friends of mine, by the way, we've got Jonathan Cho and Six, seven, Kevin. What's up, guys?
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6, 7 Kevin
Howdy.
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Jonathan Cho
Thanks for having us, Jack.
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Jack Posobic
So let me get started on this, Jonathan. The first question I have is how did you shape this operation? And how was it that you got started really on this infiltration?
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Jonathan Cho
Well, Jack, the conversation about chasing this story actually started right after our White House roundtable. I think it's been about a week now since we were both there advising the President on Antifa and our experience covering this domestic terror group. And my friend and researcher, Carlyn Borisanko and I, we've stayed in touch and she told me that if I really wanted to see what was happening behind the scenes, the underbelly, so to speak, the planning, the recruiting, the indoctrination, that I would need to go to these anarchist book fairs. Now look, I've known about anarchist book fairs for several years now, living in Seattle. Places like Portland have them, Oakland have them. I didn't really think much of them. I thought they were just book fairs, right? Pretty innocuous. But once I went inside with Carlin, that's when I started to see the actual material, the messaging inside, the calls for direct action and the sessions, like one on an anti ICE protest that they're planning, they're actually calling for violence. And teaching recruits how to again, get in the way of these agents and disrupt ICE raids.
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Jack Posobic
So the idea is then you came in. Now, did you know where these locations were? Did Dr. Carlin know? Was this something or was this something that you uncovered by. By sort of, you know, using a top of funnel method where you go to the black block and then learn more information as you daisy chain it forward?
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Jonathan Cho
Yeah, pretty much. This is all public knowledge. This is all openly advertised on social media sites like Blue Sky, Instagram, and of course the flyer method. These are posted everywhere. I wanna be very clear, there was no fee to enter these anarchist book fairs. It was totally free, it was open to the public. The only thing that we couldn't do was record. And that's where we had to go undercover. And unfortunately for me and Carlin, we're recognizable in this space. The far left activists know who we. So there were actually poster boards with our faces saying, look out for these fascists. That's what they called us, fascists.
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Jack Posobic
And that's something I want to ask in a second, by the way. Six, seven, Kevin. So I have to imagine that after this they're definitely going to recognize you. By the way, he really is. Six, seven. Folks can't really tell here.
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6, 7 Kevin
Yeah, they are going to recognize me. I did get out of there for trying to record inside of a DIY abortion workshop. But being on the ground at this book fair, one of the things that hit me first, other than the smell, because there are a lot of overweight LGBTQ individuals who just get struck by the smell, was the occult, the witchcraft, and the overt Satanism that was everywhere at this book fair. I was talking to people, I was like, are you guys putting out real witchcraft, real sigils, things like that? They said, yeah. I mean, you saw the guy there, he asked me, hey, put on this satanic mask, mask, and basically, you know, swear yourself to Satan. I'm like, no, thanks, you know, I'm good. But when conservatives say this is a spiritual war, this really is. And we need to pray for these individuals because they're all images of God still, but they're being corrupted right now. But prayers are necessary. This is a spiritual war.
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Jack Posobic
That's exactly right. And we're going to break that down some more throughout the rest of the episode. Quick break here. Do not touch that. Don't even think about scrolling away, folks. Turning point. USA frontlines infiltrated antifa. And we've got the stories from inside the black block. Stay tuned. Right back, Real American sports.
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Unknown Supporter/Commentator
Where's Jack. Where's Jack? Where is he?
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6, 7 Kevin
Jack. Jack.
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Unknown Supporter/Commentator
I want to see you. Great job, Jack.
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6, 7 Kevin
Thank you.
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Unknown Supporter/Commentator
What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys. And these are the guys who've been getting bullishers.
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Jack Posobic
All right, Jack Posobic, we're back live here. Human Events Daily. Folks, cold weather will be here before you know it. And in many ways, it's already here. And you know what I realized the other day? Well, I realized that if the power goes out when it's really cold, I've got no way to keep myself and my family warm. It's true. You know, isn't that crazy? Could actually freeze in this day and age. But then I heard about the Vesta off grid space heater from our friends over at my Patriot Supply. And what's great about Vesta is that it's a space heater that doesn't even use electricity. Runs on something they call canned heat. I remember using stuff like this in the military. It's an indoor safe heater fuel. So with the Vesta stashed in our closet, the Poso family knows that we can keep warm no matter what. And it doubles as a stove. You can boil water, you can cook food. That's, you know, honestly, just pretty cool. So the best part is you can get a Vesta and a bunch of other free gifts. That's right, free gifts. When you order the winter prep special from my Patriot Supply, just go to my patriotsupply.com jack to see everything that's included. And when you go to my patriotsupply.com Jack, you have to understand this offer will not last long. Neither will the nice fall weather. So go to my patriotsupply.com jack today. That's my patriotsupply.com Jack. All right, get back on here. We're with Jonathan Cho, 6, 7 Kevin. Who are part of the Turning Point USA Frontlines team, the journalists that infiltrated antifa in two spots this weekend. I want to go to. To Kevin for a second there because just picking up where you left off, you mentioned the pervasive occult references that you saw. And occult, you know, I would almost call them like quasi inversions or sacrament false sacramentals. You know, Media Matters wrote me up last week for saying. Because I said that Black Lives Matter was filled with demonic and occult practices, but it's actually true. One of the founders of Black Lives Matter, Patrice Colors, is a practitioner of ifa, which is a voodoo religion. And these practices which come up from Haiti include summoning circles, such as standing around in a circle and chanting the name of a deceased individual to try to summon their soul. Like, oh, I don't know, George Floyd or Breonna Taylor. Again, the reason they chant these names, it's going back to these older occult practices, pouring of libations, et cetera. And so pulling out that a little bit more I saw there was the clip you guys mentioned about, you know, Satan and the, you know, the Satanic temple. What other pieces of occult practices did you see there?
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6, 7 Kevin
Yeah, so it's kind of the foundation of their philosophy. And idolat ideology goes to Satan, which is really interesting because what I was hearing, they talked about Satan as one of the first border crossers into Eden. So they see Satan as this illegal immigrant. I asked them if they think that the United States is a godly nation or a satanic nation. They said that any nation that has hierarchy is godly and therefore should be pulled down. So this is part of their ideology is basically to just bring chaos and burn it all down. And it's kind of insidious how they're doing this because there were children at this workshop. So you can see clips. A child walks up to the satanic anarchist table and takes some satanic propaganda. So they're teaching children this, this is just deep in the ideology. And so I think we need to be aware of it and kind of learn how they're thinking about these things.
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Jack Posobic
That's so key because what goes hand in hand with that is the idea of death, destruction, killing. And of course we all just saw the killing of Turning Point USA's leader, Charlie Kirk just about one month ago. It's almost two months ago, believe it or not, we're getting up to the two month mark. Jonathan, this image that you actually texted me over the weekend that I got to see before you guys had made this announcement that you had infiltrated. This to me looked like a hit list, a kill list that was printed up on the wall of journalists, of conservatives that were all over the wall of this antifa cell. Describe it for me and tell me what you learned about it.
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Jonathan Cho
So Jack Carlin and I, along with citizen journalist Matthew Adams, we were in two different spots we found. First started off in Oakland and that's when they were using social media to really warn people, especially about Carlin and her presence. They knew that she could potentially infiltrate this space. Then we fly to Seattle and that's when I see this massive board again at the Vera project. It is a space Within Climate Pledge Arena. This is where the Seattle Kraken play. This is where Seattle's WNBA team plays. So this is a place where you have millions of people who visit every single year. And then in this room, as soon as we walk in, there was a massive board, so to speak, and they call it the fascist wall. My photos on it, Matthew Adams photos on it. Carlin's photos on it, of course, your colleague Katie Davis Court over at Post Millennial, her photos on it, along with other Pacific Northwest and West coast journalists. And basically, it was not just a warning to keep us out. I truly believe it was a warning to the antifa thugs who are mingling in this room to look out for us and target us and to hurt us. So we knew that going in. So we tried our best to go in disguise. I was wearing a mask. I was wearing a queer liberation shirt. But eventually, towards the tail end, we were in there only for about 15, 20 minutes. We were outed. They recognized me, they recognized citizen journalist Matthew Adams after all of his, you know, coverage on the front lines here. And we had to book out of there asap. And they sent about five, six, seven transgender activists after us. And again, that's how antifa and these far left activists play. They'll never come at us one on one. They'll send like 20 people. So we got out of there, we got the story. So that's what you're seeing right now.
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Jack Posobic
And what sort of, what sort of information did they have included on that? Because it does seem that. So it's mentioning sort of the, the list of crimes, but did this include. And obviously we're not going to zoom in because I don't know if it's totally redacted. I'm sure you guys aren't going to put anything like that, but did it include things like addresses, docs, is that type of stuff?
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Jonathan Cho
Well, it didn't have our specific addresses on the wall, but I know that there is a similar wall right now online with more details. What was on this were our photos, our names, and also which cities we lived and operated in. So again, it was a call out to their comrades to look out for us, especially in these protest hot zones or these anarchist book fairs. And again, I was actually surprised at the planning and coordination. I have never really been to these anarchist book fairs in Seattle. I've known about them, but I had no idea what was really happening inside. And the fact that they went out of their way to have security put up this wall shows that this isn't Just something that happens organically. This was intentionally planned. This was a sophisticated operation. And again, the anarchist book fairs are not these innocuous places that just go pick up a good read. It's where they plan, they strategize and they recruit and they indoctrinate through their far left violent propaganda.
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Jack Posobic
And Jonathan, before I ask you have felt to see your name up there. Is that a security system that I see on the wall beneath the pictures?
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Jonathan Cho
Yeah, look, I didn't take a really close look, so I'm looking at the same photo you do. But yeah, there were cameras there as well. There were security guards. They had people with walkie talkies. They were looking out for us. They were also looking out for anyone who looked like police officers or the feds because they know that they're going to be infiltrated eventually.
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Jack Posobic
That security, by the way, Jonathan, that security was that, was that armed security?
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Jonathan Cho
I couldn't tell, but they definitely had batons. I can tell you that I didn't know if they had, you know, pistols, but I'm sure I just assume whenever I go to these events, especially these direct actions, that the antifa militants at the very least have bear sprayer knives. But I didn't see any guns. But they had walkie talkies. They were all masked up and it was again, coordinated and that's what was really concerning. And it was a total risk for us to go in there, but we made it out and we're thankful.
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Jack Posobic
Well, look, you're seeing again, you know, you guys are what you went up against. They say this stuff doesn't exist. They've got sophisticated security. They've got communications, security, communications operations, comsec, where they're using walkie talkies because obviously they're worried. And clearly, by the way, the use of walkie talkies or ham radios is a way to attempt to circumvent police or federal infiltration of their comms because they're worried about their cell phones being infiltrated or wiretapped by the FBI. That's one of the reasons that you see them practicing COMSEC like that. I remember in Chaz in 2020, they were using microphones and walkie talkies with push to talk that was operated over Bluetooth like a Bluetooth mesh network. So what they would be doing is they would set up a digital network locally with local repeaters and local routers. That wasn't. So they're not even operating off the cell phone towers, but it was basically just from within the Chaz itself and they could communicate from one one checkpoint to another checkpoint. And in those cases, they were armed with the John Brown Gun Club of Puget Sound with both long rifles and handguns. I remember at one point when Katie Davis Court was there, I was in, you know, infiltrated in cover the same way you were, and she was not. And I could see there was a guy who walked right up to her with a looked like a Glock 9 millimeter in his waistband and got very, very close. And I certainly kept my eyes close on that gun and close on his hands while he was very close to her like that. And of course, saw them pulled multiple times by Raz Simone and others when we were there late in the night. Jack Posobic on with the incredible Turning Point Front Lines team who infiltrated Antifa this weekend. All the details right back when we continue Human Events Daily.
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Unknown Supporter/Commentator
Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it. And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event. And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.
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Jack Posobic
Amen. All right, folks, Jack Posobic, we are back. Human Events Daily. We're talking about the incredible infiltration operation, the Turning Point USA Frontlines team ran. And guys, Jonathan, let me ask you, if people want to continue to support your operations, I'd be remiss if I didn't put this out. How can they go and support Front Lines?
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Jonathan Cho
Yeah, no, thanks for asking. You know, first of all, you can follow me at CHO Show C H O E S H O W and of course, our Frontlines team at Frontlines tpusa. And you know, we always want to partner up with people who may want to fund one of these trips because we need the support. And if you can just click the subscribe button and follow us and just send these stories out to the rest of your friends, America really needs to see what's happening here right now in independent media. Guys like us, we're the only ones showing it right now. And this is really happening in American cities.
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Jack Posobic
That's incredible.
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Jonathan Cho
And as you and Kevin discussing earlier, it really now has come down to a fight between good and evil. In fact, it's always been like that, but I'm seeing it now more than ever. This really is spiritual warfare.
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Jack Posobic
No, it is. Six, seven. Kevin, you know, on that, on the question of the technological side, you know, when you go to conduct one of these operations, what sort of tech, what sort of, you know, filming equipment were you guys using?
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6, 7 Kevin
Yeah, I mean, we have to be pretty covert here because obviously they put up about hundreds of posters that say, no filming, no recording, and they will kick you out immediately. And they have all of these guards standing around and they're just watching you like a hawk. I had people looking at me like, you know, he looks a little too straight. But they just couldn't, you know, be for sure that I was doing something. But we had spy sunglasses, so if you see the six foot seven perspective looking down, that's my angle. And then Jonathan also had his own sunglasses. And then both of us were mic'd up with audio as well. So when we couldn't record with the sunglasses, we were getting the audio. So it was an amalgamation of a lot, even some iPhone footage as well. But then by the end, we did get outed and a leftist basically was putting tape over my sunglasses and told me to leave. So. Didn't work that great.
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Jack Posobic
Well, again, it's that incredible use of technology. The incredible use. Now, Jonathan, you don't. You don't have those. Those spyglasses on right now. That's not what those are, are they?
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Jonathan Cho
No, these are just my regular Gucci sunglasses. But we had the.
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Jack Posobic
Sure, sure. Okay. That's what he. Yeah, he says that now. He says that now.
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6, 7 Kevin
But.
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Jack Posobic
But in all seriousness, you were. You mentioned something earlier that I wanted to get into this sort of. You know, Kevin was telling us about the interplay there. And I remember this when I was in the. Chaz. It really does operate like a sort of mini community when you're inside these things, doesn't it?
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Jonathan Cho
Yeah, and that's what was so fascinating for me when I went there. And again, everyone assumed that initially we were leftists, right? That we were for this cause.
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6, 7 Kevin
They.
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Jonathan Cho
They called us comrades and so on and so forth. Everyone was so generous and giving. Giving us free pamphlets, free posters, giving us discounts. A lot of the material was, you know, if there was a charge, there would be a sliding scale. They would say, whatever you can afford, but just take it and give it to someone else. I also saw homeless teenagers. One fella said he was kicked out from his house because he came out to his parents as lgbtq. And that's unfortunate. But overall, this, again, feel of family, community is what these disenfranchised young people are looking for. And unfortunately, they're finding it here. But what I really believe. I know that, you know, when it comes to even our coverage, sometimes, you know, I'll say it again. The ideology is dangerous. It's violent, it's evil. But these people can all be redeemed. But unfortunately, right now, they're all lost.
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Jack Posobic
And that's what's so sad. Kevin, you know, you mentioned that, praying for these people, and I think that's a big part of it. But also from a. From a governmental perspective, at the same time, the federal government. You guys broke the story that the crackdown has begun on the financial and network investigation of these guys. You know, Kevin, from that perspective, what we've learned. Do you think, as committed as they are, that they'll stop unless the government does something?
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6, 7 Kevin
They're not going to stop. And even if there is a huge amount of government action, which it might require, overreach, which I don't agree with either, because so much of this operation is decentralized. We went to their anti ICE workshop, and they told us part of why they were so successful is that it is decentralized, that there isn't just one nonprofit that you can defund, and it just collapses. Antifa. I was actually at a brewery, and I was talking to this gentleman that ended up being a Chase executive president there, and he admitted to me that he was actually a communist and that he had funded some of these antifa groups. And he told me he had given them $10,000 in cash at a protest, at one point, just dropped it off. He'll just bring them coffee, he'll bring them food. So it's so decentralized. Some of this is cash, some of. Some of this you can't track. So this is going to be terribly difficult to actually tramp out.
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Jack Posobic
And I think that's exactly right, because it's something that we learned with these committed communists over time, that they do have this sort of romantic belief. And Jonathan, would you describe it as sort of a romantic utopian belief system that they seem to have thrown themselves into it.
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Jonathan Cho
It really is. This is their subculture. This is their ideal worldview.
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6, 7 Kevin
Right.
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Jonathan Cho
But again, I believe they've been brainwashed. This is because a lot of these young men and women, they don't have purpose in life. They've been kicked out of their homes. They don't fit in. One of the analysts that I talked to in the Oakland area, outside of the story, he basically said these were the kids who felt like they were outcasts and losers in high school. They weren't even necessarily the smart kids, but they were the ones just in the corner cafeteria. But then now they've all grown up and they found each other. So they formed not only this family, but a gang and a Gang now with purpose to go out and cause chaos, ultimately to usher in this violent revolution, to bring this what they believe is a utopia. And right now, America doesn't fit that vision.
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Jack Posobic
Well. And it goes all the way back to the French Revolution. The French Revolution had that commune system, and that's exactly what you're describing. These are modern communes. And when the modern iteration of antifa got started in really in West BERLIN in the 1960s, that's exactly how they started. They were in, they were in buildings that had been abandoned in World War II and they sort of set up shop as squatters. And that's, that's really where the Ottoman, as they called themselves back then, came from. And that of course is back from the prior iteration of antifa during the interwar period when they were used to destabilize the Weimar Republic. But you go back to these French Revolution references and of course that goes all the way up to the mainstreaming of the French Revolution and antifa phrase, no kings, that goes all the way back to the French Revolution. No kings, no masters is a phrase that was used, has been used for hundreds of years. That's certainly been used by antifa since they've come back around and it was used by the Jacobins. No kings, no lords was the original phrasing. And now it's been completely mainstreamed in cities across the country. Final question I suppose to let's. Let's go. Let's start with Kevin. Kevin, given what you've seen, would it surprise you to think that the organizers of the no Kings and organizers of these antifa cells have some overlap?
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6, 7 Kevin
It definitely could be overlap, but it also could be just organic and it could be just springing up naturally in their own areas. What is interesting, I'll quote Star wars on this. This is from Star wars andor but this character says when the empire cracks down, its overreach stronger, it only makes the rebellion stronger. So as all of these talks about cracking down on antifa and National Guard increase, it's almost bolstering the morale of these individuals and making more of these people pop up and want to rebel. So, you know, they're only getting stronger, it seems.
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Jack Posobic
Yeah, well, this, this is the situation and it won't stop until it stopped. Jonathan Cho. Cho Show 67 Kevin do you have social media you want to put out?
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6, 7 Kevin
Sure, yeah. 67 Kevin1 on Twitter and then 6, 7 Kevin on YouTube where I do documentary.
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Jack Posobic
Make sure you're there. Gentlemen, thank you so much for your work. Be. Be safe. But don't quit.
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Jonathan Cho
Jack, thanks for amplifying.
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Jack Posobic
Thank you, Jonathan. Amen. We'll get it out there. And I. I said to everybody, I said, we're going to spread this one like the plague. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay a short. This is an I Heart podcast.