Human Events with Jack Posobiec, October 23rd, 2025

Summary

Human Events with Jack Posobiec – October 23, 2025

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Jack Posobiec
Guests: Peachy Keenan (bestselling author), Leland Vitter (News Nation anchor, author)
Release Date: October 23, 2025

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Overview

This episode of Human Events dives into current events from a populist-conservative lens, focusing heavily on topics like national security, border policy, government spending, and the impact of political figures. The episode includes specialty coverage of a recent tragic truck accident involving an alleged illegal immigrant, a wide-ranging discussion on presidential priorities (including a new White House ballroom), and a heartfelt segment on overcoming childhood autism with Leland Vitter, who shares insights from his memoir Born Lucky. The show features regular banter, strong opinions, and a conversational tone, punctuated by sharp commentary and personal stories.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. White House Press Briefing Round-Up (00:35 – 07:09)

• Crime and Urban Policy:
  Caroline (White House spokesperson) discusses Trump’s willingness to work with city mayors on crime and cleanliness, referencing a recent conversation with the San Francisco mayor. She describes the administration’s approach as offering support but promising intervention if local governments “fail their citizens.”
  • Quote (Caroline, 00:39): “The President...is genuinely interested in this effort to make our streets safer, to make our cities safe and clean again.”
• Political Violence:
  They address the “no Kings” protestors and concerning, explicit calls to violence.
  • Quote (Caroline, 01:31): “...the President and everyone here at the White House certainly hopes that anyone making violent and illegal threats in that way against public officials will be arrested and prosecuted.”
• Government Shutdown & SNAP Benefits:
  Discussion around potential legislation to preserve SNAP benefits during a shutdown. The administration is open to legislative efforts while emphasizing the need for a clean continuing resolution.
  • Quote (Caroline, 02:59): “The administration would absolutely support that legislation... but the bill that will get everyone paid and put everyone back to work is the clean continuing resolution.”
• Sanctions on Russian Oil Companies:
  New sanctions on two Russian oil companies are highlighted, with discussion of their intended impact and possible further steps.
  • Quote (Caroline, 03:29): “...they’re pretty hefty... it’s full court press for sure, and we expect that these sanctions are going to do harm.”
• White House Ballroom Project:
  Lively discussion of the upcoming demolition of the East Wing for the new Trump ballroom, with speculation over its official name and cost (now $300 million, up from $200 million). The administration insists it won’t cost taxpayers.
  • Quote (Caroline, 06:21): “$300 million is the figure. And again, it’s not going to cost the taxpayers a dime.”

2. News Recap and Hot Topics

(Jack Posobiec, Leland Vitter, Peachy Keenan – 11:02 - 13:53)

• Sanctions and Spending Optics:
  Jack and Leland discuss new Russia sanctions and controversy over Trump’s plans for the White House ballroom during a government shutdown.
  • General public sentiment: As long as “he’s spending his money and not taxpayer money, it’s okay.”
• U.S.-Colombia Relations:
  Jack provides a blunt opinion on Colombia’s president following statements seen as threatening, highlighting strong U.S. action against Colombian aid amid drug concerns.
  • Quote (Jack, 11:41): “He’s a thug and bad guy... Colombia, they make cocaine, they have cocaine factories... He better watch it or we’ll take very serious action.”

3. Supreme Court Gun Rights Case (12:17 – 12:33)

• The Trump administration supports a federal gun ban for drug users, which marks a departure from its usual posture on Second Amendment rights.

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4. Fatal Truck Collision in California & Border Security Debate

(Deep Dive: Jack Posobiec & Peachy Keenan, 13:53 – 22:35)

• Incident Recap:
  Discussion of a devastating crash on the 10 Freeway involving a semi-truck driven by an undocumented immigrant (Jashan Preet Singh), allegedly under the influence, resulting in three fatalities.
  • Peachy connects the tragedy to broader concerns about road safety, immigration, commercial driver’s license (CDL) regulation, and the state of governance in California.
  • Quote (Peachy, 15:12): “California issues 25% of these CDLs to illegals... This guy crossed the border in 2022, was detained and released by Joe Biden, and now he’s driving a truck on our most crowded freeways...”
• Systemic Issues:
  Peachy and Jack contend that corporate interests and both political parties bear responsibility for relying on foreign (sometimes undocumented) labor for essential roles, bringing safety and economic concerns.
  • Notable moment (Jack, 18:10):
    “We... love entrepreneurship... But we hate ill-gotten gains and we hate corruption... this is how you get destabilization...”
  • Peachy, 19:41:
    “We’re putting these jobs, these sort of life and death tasks, we’re giving them to people who don’t have any skin in the game here... What do they care if they make a mistake and take out a whole family?”
• Personal Stories:
  Jack and Peachy both share personal anecdotes about encountering reckless semi-drivers and highlight recent deadly incidents.
• Culture and Safety:
  The conversation frames recent accidents as indicators of larger problems tied to weak border enforcement and misplaced political priorities.
  • Jack, 20:15:
    “It’s gotten to the point where public safety itself has absolutely been compromised... because we decided to let people come into this country without any actual controls on it whatsoever.”

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5. Naming the New White House Ballroom – Banter and Satire

(Jack Posobiec & Peachy Keenan, 28:03 – 33:01)

• Jack and Peachy riff on possible names for the Trump ballroom—suggesting (tongue-in-cheek) everything from “The Donald J. Trump White House Ballroom” to naming it after Charlie Kirk.
• Peachy jokes about the proliferation of recently named public infrastructure (streets, freeways) after political figures and moments, e.g., “George Floyd D.C.,” Barack Obama Freeway.
• Quote (Jack, 28:15): “Even Obama said... wouldn’t it be nice if the White House had a better place to hold these events? Yet none of them were willing to take on the actual job... Donald Trump has done so.”
• Jack jokes about renaming a destroyer USS Charles Kirk and banters about the “woke” era’s influence on naming conventions.

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6. Remembering Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA’s Response

(Jack Posobiec & Leland Vitter, 38:23 – 43:06)

• Jack and Leland reflect on the assassination of Charlie Kirk, the impact it had on conservative youth and the country, and the scale of the memorial events hosted in Arizona by Turning Point USA.
  • Quote (Leland, 39:02): “I think it speaks to Charlie’s influence that no one I think, in life, probably fully understood. Certainly I didn’t... His influence on the national political conversation and the effect that his assassination had is something I think we’re still trying to figure out.”
• Leland highlights Turning Point’s organizational strength and Charlie’s legacy as a catalyst for growth and unity in the movement.

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7. “Born Lucky”: Leland Vitter’s Memoir on Overcoming Autism

(Deep Dive: 44:04 – 60:14)

• Leland’s Story:
  Leland Vitter shares his experience growing up with an autism diagnosis, concealed for decades, and raised by a father who rejected the standard educational accommodations in favor of strong, adaptive parenting.
  • Quote (Leland, 45:45): “Born Lucky is hope for every parent of a kid having a hard time… This is proof of the power and agency that parents have.”
• Parenting Philosophy:
  Leland describes how his father became his “full-time parent coach” and only friend for much of his childhood, stepping back from a successful business career to ensure his son developed resilience and work ethic.
  • Quote (Leland, 54:00): “...He said there are two things you can control in life, your character and your work ethic. And if you take pride in those two, that is going to make all the difference for you.”
• Personal Trials:
  Emotional anecdotes include bullying, isolation, teachers degrading him, and his father's nightly emotional struggle—yet always “putting me back together.”
  • Quote (Leland, 57:06): “He would leave my bedroom every night after… two or three hours of me taking my frustrations and emotions out on him, and he would go downstairs late into the night and cry himself just because of the emotional toll this was all taking.”
• Life Lessons & Takeaways:
  The core message is about perseverance and parental love. “The currency of high school is not the currency of life.” (Jack, 57:57)
• Book Plug:
  Born Lucky is available on Amazon and is a New York Times bestseller.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “He’s a thug and bad guy... He better watch it or we’ll take very serious action against him and his country.”
  — Jack Posobiec on Colombian president (11:41)
• “We’re putting these jobs… life and death tasks, we’re giving them to people who don’t have any skin in the game...”
  — Peachy Keenan, on foreign CDL holders (19:41)
• “Charlie’s influence… no one in life probably fully understood… and the effect that his assassination had is something I think we’re still trying to figure out.”
  — Leland Vitter, reflecting on Charlie Kirk (39:02)
• “Born Lucky is hope for every parent of a kid having a hard time… This is proof of the power and agency that parents have.”
  — Leland Vitter (45:45)
• “Have no expectations about the future… Never allow your child to feel they’ve disappointed you… The currency of high school is not the currency of life.”
  — Jack Posobiec, summarizing lessons from Born Lucky (57:57)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• White House Press Briefing & Urban Policy – 00:35–07:09
• Sanctions, Colombia, and Gun Rights – 11:02–12:33
• CA Truck Crash & Border Issues – 13:53–22:35
• Naming the Ballroom Banter – 28:03–33:01
• Remembering Charlie Kirk – 38:23–43:06
• Born Lucky Memoir & Autism Discussion – 44:04–60:14

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Conclusion

This episode weaves together hot-button political crises, deeply personal stories, and the familiar Human Events blend of humor, insider commentary, and right-leaning cultural critique. Standout moments include the passionate, personal conversations about immigration and public safety, Jack and Peachy's satirical banter about political legacy, and Leland Vitter’s moving retelling of triumphing over adversity with family at the center. The tone throughout is conversational but urgent, unapologetically opinionated, and at times, surprisingly heartfelt.

For listeners who missed it, this summary should provide a comprehensive, timestamped guide to the major themes, arguments, and moments shaping the episode.

Transcript

[Jack Posobiec]

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[Peachy Keenan]

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[Caroline]

Is this what Trump hopes happens in.

[Jack Posobiec]

Pretty much every city?

[Caroline]

The President hopes, and I've said this so many times, and I think the President's conversation with the San Francisco mayor last night, in his statement today prove the President is willing to work with anyone across the aisle, across the country to do the right thing and clean up America's. He is genuinely interested in this effort to make our streets safer, to make our cities safe and clean again. And he heard from the mayor last night who told him that he is going to earnestly try to make his city better on his own. The president heard him out. He said, okay, I'll give you a chance. We'll be watching, and if you need us, we are here. And if I feel as though you continue to fail your citizens, the federal government may have to step in, but we'll continue to watch San Francisco. And that law enforcement operation has now been paused.

[Commercial Announcer]

Thank you.

[Caroline]

And then on the no Kings protestors.

[Jack Posobiec]

I saw videos of people explicitly calling.

[Caroline]

For violence against Stephen Miller, against the president, shirts saying we don't have enough assassins calling for more political violence. Does the president want to see arrests here, and are we going to see arrests of these types of explicit calls to violence? Ms. I would think myself, the president and everyone here at the White House certainly hopes that anyone who is making violent and illegal threats in that way against public officials will will be arrested and prosecuted.

[Jack Posobiec]

Thank you.

[Caroline]

Two questions. Would the President support the Senate ending the legislative filibuster to end the shutdown?

[Leland Vitter]

Ms.

[Caroline]

This is something I haven't heard the President talk about much, so I don't want to speak on him for it. I'll let him answer that question himself. And do you have an update on.

[Jack Posobiec]

The NASA administrator nominee?

[Caroline]

Do you plan to nominate anyone soon, or does the President nominate anyone soon? Sorry, I'll leave that to the President himself. He'll make a decision in due time, and when he does, you will hear directly from him as you always do. We'll give our friends in the back a chance. Yes, as you mentioned, at the top of the briefing, USDA has warned that it will run out of funds to.

[Jack Posobiec]

Pay full SNAP benefits next month if the shutdown continues.

[Caroline]

Senator Hawley is floating a bill that would ensure SNAP benefits are continuing to.

[Jack Posobiec]

Pay during the shutdown.

[Caroline]

Would the president support such a move?

[Peachy Keenan]

And you also announced that the administration.

[Commercial Announcer]

Was using tariff revenue to keep WIC.

[Caroline]

Going during the shutdown. How long will that last and is.

[Commercial Announcer]

Anything similar being considered for SNAP?

[Caroline]

Ms. Yes, the administration would absolutely support that legislation. We hoped that it would come over the finish line. But the bill that will get everyone paid and put everyone back to work is the Clean continuing Resolution. That's what the president and Republicans want to see. Ed, go ahead, Ed.

[Jack Posobiec]

Thanks, Carolyn.

[Leland Vitter]

On the Russian sanctions again, how much pressure do you think this sanctioning these two Russian companies actually puts on President Putin because the last administration sanctioned two other oil companies?

[Jack Posobiec]

How much economic pressure is this?

[Caroline]

Really a lot. If you read the sanctions and look at them, they're pretty hefty. And I saw some international news out of China this morning that they're scaling back oil purchases from Russia. We know India has done the same at the request of the president. The president has also pushed European countries, our allies, to please stop their purchases of Russian oil as well. So it's full court press for sure, and we expect that these sanctions are going to do harm, as the secretary of treasury said yesterday.

[Jack Posobiec]

Could there be more? Is this just the first step or could there be more sanctions?

[Caroline]

Ms. I'll leave that to the President to decide. Mr. Sure.

[Leland Vitter]

You've seen the video or heard the NBA gambling involved in the gambling issue there. Does the president gamble? What does he think about?

[Caroline]

You know, I'm not sure. I don't think he does. I've been with him quite some time and I have not seen him gamble before. I don't think he's a big gambler, but you can ask him yourself the next time you have a chance to Edward, go ahead.

[Jack Posobiec]

Two quick questions.

[Leland Vitter]

Back to the ballroom.

[Jack Posobiec]

It is a very spectacular ballroom according to the renderings, and if it's half as nice as the one in Mar a Lago, then future presidents are really going to appreciate it.

[Caroline]

They will.

[Leland Vitter]

First of all, is there is there.

[Jack Posobiec]

Like an official name, like are we calling it the Trump Ballroom or does the president have a vision for what the name for the ballroom is going to be? Ms.

[Caroline]

There will be an official name. I will let the president announce that once he firmly decides on it.

[Leland Vitter]

My second question is, you know, looking.

[Jack Posobiec]

At these renderings and it kind of got me thinking. He's likely going to go down as the greatest builder of this era. And you've been in on a lot of those meetings with him. Has, to your knowledge, has the subject of rebuilding the holy temple in Jerusalem come up?

[Caroline]

It has not. No, it has not. I don't. I'm sorry.

[Jack Posobiec]

Go ahead, Caroline.

[Caroline]

On the CC pardon, could this clear the way for Finance to resume US Operations? I won't get ahead of that. That's something for treasury or the Departments of Commerce to clear comment on. So you're welcome to ask them.

[Jack Posobiec]

And then one follow up question.

[Caroline]

Any more details on the president's Walter Reed visit? The readout from his doctor mentioned advanced imaging. What procedure was he referring to? Advanced imaging is something that presidents receive and people receive when they go to the doctor. And so we provide a detailed readout of that physical and I would encourage you back to that. Presidents and I don't know the exact imaging that took place, but as the physician's note said, the president is in incredibly good shape and I think that's evidenced here every single day. Danny, thanks, Caroline.

[Jack Posobiec]

Back to the ballroom, I'm afraid. I just wanted to ask because in July, the White House said that it would cost 200 million. Yesterday the President said 300 million. Is 300 million now the operative figure? And why did it go up by so much?

[Caroline]

300 million is the figure. And again, it's not going to cost the taxpayers a dime. So we look forward to this project continuing and we will continue to keep everyone apprised on it. Perhaps the president will even bring you all out to see it one day at the appropriate time. You're also going to hear from the president directly in about an hour. He's hosting an event with the Homeland Security Task Force. This was a newly created federal task force that the president and his law enforcement team have put together. I would encourage you all to tune in to the remarks. They have really done a tremendous job at refocusing how federal law enforcement and local law enforcement work together. There will be some local sheriffs and law enforcement officials in attendance as well. And they'll be talking about the success and the many arrests they have made of drug traffickers and cartel members all across the country by just simply working together. So we will see you at the event. Thank you, Caroline.

[Jack Posobiec]

Thank you, Caroline.

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[Leland Vitter]

When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why Benghazi? The truth became a web of lies. It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.

[Peachy Keenan]

Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?

[Leland Vitter]

Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit. We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.

[Jack Posobiec]

You put two and two together.

[Leland Vitter]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?

[Jack Posobiec]

Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.

[Leland Vitter]

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[Leland Vitter]

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[Jack Posobiec]

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[Peachy Keenan]

Former Navy intelligence veteran.

[Jack Posobiec]

This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobic. Christ is king. President Trump is imposing harsh new sanctions.

[Leland Vitter]

On Russia's two largest oil companies, ramping.

[Jack Posobiec]

Up pressure on Russian President Putin to end his war in Ukraine. The entire East Wing is expected to be demolished as soon as this weekend to clear the way for President Trump's $300 million ballroom. Some Republicans tonight now questioning the optics of this, especially during this shutdown. Reactions keep pouring in from some visitors to the nation's capital. He's spending his money and not my taxpayer money. It's okay with me.

[Leland Vitter]

I really don't see any major issue with it. The White House has been changed several times in the past.

[Caroline]

The President of Colombia in recent interviews.

[Jack Posobiec]

That said that if you won't change.

[Caroline]

Then perhaps you need to be gotten rid of.

[Jack Posobiec]

Do you view that as a threat? Well, he's a thug and bad guy. He's a guy that is making a lot of drugs. We've just, as of today, stopped all payments going to Colombia, the country, Colombia. He's hurt his country very badly. They're doing very poorly. Colombia, they make cocaine, they have cocaine factories. They grow all sorts of crap. That's drugs, bad drugs coming into the United States goes generally through Mexico. And he better watch it or we'll take very serious action against him and his country. The Supreme Court will be taking up a gun rights case and this comes.

[Leland Vitter]

After a request from the Trump administration.

[Jack Posobiec]

Asking the high court to limit the.

[Peachy Keenan]

Right of drug users.

[Leland Vitter]

This is a departure for the administration.

[Peachy Keenan]

That typically favors Second Amendment rights.

[Caroline]

In this case, the Trump administration is actually defending a federal gun ban for drug users.

[Leland Vitter]

Dash cam video shared with Eyewitness News. And it's from the red semi truck.

[Jack Posobiec]

That plowed into a number of vehicles on the westbound 10 freeway in Ontario.

[Leland Vitter]

It is now the subject of several law enforcement investigations.

[Jack Posobiec]

This fiery collision killing three people and involving a total of eight vehicles. Tonight, the CHP telling the LA Times.

[Leland Vitter]

The driver of this big rig is a 21 year old man who is.

[Jack Posobiec]

Now under arrest on suspicion of driving under the influence of drugs. All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live on Real America's voice. Today is October 23, 2025. Anno Domini. This story out of California. The CDLs, the illegal aliens, the idea that our country has been completely overrun by not just illegals, but people here working and driving these semis, which, I mean, Quite frankly, they're, they're like weapons of mass destruction all across our highways, all across our cities and towns. And you look at this horrific crash, there's no, there's no breaks. There's nothing. We find out it's illegal alien from around the world. I wanted to get on my good friend and bestselling author Peachy Keenan to, you know, who's from California to kind of break down this story for us. Peachy, how are you doing?

[Caroline]

Great.

[Peachy Keenan]

How are you doing? Jack maga's Next Top Model.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, come on, Seriously?

[Peachy Keenan]

Congrats on the Atlantic hit piece.

[Jack Posobiec]

Look, look, I saw the Atlantic piece. I've talked about this earlier. I'm not the guy who wrote this. I'm not the one who put up any of this. But all I will say is I respectfully disagree that maga's top influencer is and will always be Charles James Kirk. Charlie Kirk is the number one MAGA influencer. And that's. That's it. That's it.

[Peachy Keenan]

I think they're actually sort of fair to you. I mean, I think, you know, all publicity is good publicity. And I think, you know, there's a crown, you know, you can share it. No one will mind. You deserve it.

[Jack Posobiec]

Look, I mean, you know, none of us could do what Charlie did. And it's, it's as simple as that. But, you know, I'm happy to help with Turning Point Point. And, you know, we're doing what we can in New Jersey and other spots like that and hope to cover some of the same stories. And I know by, by the way, this was a story that Charlie was talking about quite a bit because Charlie gone on a journey and sort of a story arc on this where, like, how did we get to the point that we had illegal aliens just like running all over our trucks? Pg. How did we get here?

[Peachy Keenan]

Yeah, I was doing some research on this. This accident happened, you know, not too far from me. The 10 freeway for. I mean, most people know it's the main southern interstate, goes from Santa Monica, California all the way to Florida. And it takes you. It's the main way to get to and from la. From Riverside county, the Inland Empire, Arizona, Vegas. This is the way to Palm Springs. Big Bear. You know, everyone in LA has done this route many, many times. And the, and the driving here is already kind of crazy. And it actually has gotten noticeably crazier in LA since the Biden era. I mean, there's just noticeably worse drivers everywhere. And I feel like I'm seeing these videos of these illegal Indian CDL holders. Almost every day there's like another death. We saw that one a few weeks ago. The guy made a U turn across a freeway and killed a van full of Haitian immigrants. In this case, the guy Tuesday here in LA, he killed three people and two of them. One of them was a 67 year old retired basketball coach. Like a beloved, beloved basketball coach from Pomona High School and his wife. And these were people in their 60s, they had retired and they were just, you know, driving some, driving home from somewhere and just boom. And it's just, it's terrifying. I have a, I have a son who goes to college kind of out near there and he commutes this way, you know, frequently. And I live in terror. And this video does not, does not give me any comfort. And I, then I find out California issues 25% of these CDLs to illegals. I was doing research. As I said, you apparently have to be legal to get a commercial driver's license in this country. You're supposed to have a visa. All this. This guy crossed the border in 2022, was detained and released by Joe Biden, and now he's driving a truck on our most crowded freeways filled with innocent people and children and families going on trips. How is this, like, would we give him, would we let him fly a plane and he was high and drunk or whatever. He was on meth.

[Commercial Announcer]

I think.

[Peachy Keenan]

How are we allowing this? And when will there be accountability to the truck driving company which should be banned from operating in this country? And I'm sorry, Gavin Newsom, who is now an accessory to like, mass murder.

[Leland Vitter]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

Jashan Preet Singh was this U Haul driver. And you're right, there should be some complicity here. There should be some complicity here. And the, the ridiculous part of it is, I'll even take it a step back, right, because this is what, what Charlie would talk about. And he had gotten to a different place on it because, you know, the GOP used to be like the party of business, the party of corporate America. And you know, obviously we love entrepreneurship and obviously we love like Elon Musk. We love, we love when people do well and people are innovative. But we hate ill gotten gains and we hate corruption. And that's something we should have always been against. And I think we kind of lost our way on for a long time. And so we definitely looked the other way when corporate America was taking so much corporate welfare. And by the way, H1BS and all of these systems, H2BS, these are forms of government handouts and corporate welfare to companies. And so they. They'll say, oh, well, you know, GDP goes up. But here's the thing about the gdp. The GDP is a theory, is a theoretical model of how the economy is working. It doesn't actually capture quality of life. It doesn't capture how households are doing. And what does it even really matter when Most of the GDP's performance is going to the people at the top 1%. This is how you get destabilization. This is how you get disaffected youth. This is how you get disenfranchised young men who then go up on buildings and rooftops and pick up guns and shoot Charlie Kirk. It is all of these things, and it always has been. Historically. This is what gives rise to radical Marxism and, you know, the original no Kings protests, which was the slogan of the French Revolution. So there's no, there's no, you know, really moment that I think a lot of people are taking a step back and say, guys, you know, we conservatives kind of are to blame for this because we forgot about the country and we just sort of. We just sort of put the economy first. And sorry to be on a rant, but it's. It's just so obvious to me.

[Peachy Keenan]

Yeah. And we're putting these jobs, these sort of life and death tasks, we're giving them to people who don't have any skin in the game here. They don't have. They didn't grow up here, they don't have family here. What do they care if they make a mistake and take out a whole family, a minivan full of parents and kids, you know, Whereas, let's say someone who grew up here, who's American, who has family here, he might be a little more careful because he might think, oh, it could be my grandma on the road, but some guy who just arrived just off the boat, like, what does he. What does he care? He's just trying to get a paycheck and bring his. His whole entire family here to, you know, leach off.

[Jack Posobiec]

By the way, you've seen this. So I was driving up i95 to this jack Cittarelli rally last weekend up in North Jersey and Bergen county. And you just. And I was thinking about this, funny enough, and I was thinking about semi trucks in general. And they just. They're so dangerous. Anytime you see them now, they're so dangerous. And it's not like you remember when. I don't know what, like when I was a kid, you would see one of the big rigs and, you know, my dad had the CB radio.

[Peachy Keenan]

There you go, like this.

[Jack Posobiec]

Because that is, that's for opsec. And yeah, you would do the Hong Kong, right? Or the two, whatever you call it, right? You would do this and there'd be some guy in there and he'd be like, hey kids, you know, and you would do it and, and that would be the thing. But you knew you never had anything to worry about. Like those guys were the best. And now you see them and even beyond, you know, obviously this horrifying fatal incident and feels like there's one every week. Just when you're on the road, you see them changing lanes like crazy. You see them all over the place. And we see it a ton in the Northeast. We drove to Niagara Falls this past summer and we saw it all over the road out there as well. And bus drivers too, which I'm sure, you know, some of those foreign tour companies of course are using drivers that come from other countries. And there was a huge bus crash right outside of Niagara a couple of weeks ago that was directly, you know, directly tied to this sort of thing. And so, you know, it's, it's gotten to the point where public safety itself has absolutely been compromised. We're coming up on a quick break, but we'll stick it right here because we're on with PG Keenan and we're discussing very serious risks to life and limb that have now arisen because we decided to let people come into this country without any actual controls on it whatsoever. So stick it right here. Human Events Daily. Shoot us an email. 1776human events.com 1776human events.com we will be right back on Real America's Voice.

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[Leland Vitter]

What? I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi. Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked, why Benghazi? The truth became a web of lies. It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.

[Peachy Keenan]

Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?

[Leland Vitter]

Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit. We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.

[Jack Posobiec]

You put two and two together.

[Leland Vitter]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?

[Jack Posobiec]

Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.

[Leland Vitter]

I'm Leon Naifak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.

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[Leland Vitter]

Yes, that's right.

[Jack Posobiec]

Lock her up.

[Leland Vitter]

Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jack Posobiec]

You talk about influencers.

[Leland Vitter]

These are influences and they're friends of mine.

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[Leland Vitter]

Where's Jack?

[Jack Posobiec]

Jack who's got a great job? All right, folks, back live, Jack Posobic here, Human Events Daily. You know, I got a question. What if those who were once called conspiracy theorists turn out to be right again? Well, a new study by Korean doctors claimed that Covid vaccines actually raise the risk of six cancers, including lung cancer, breast and prostate. Researchers analyzed health records for more than 8.4 million adults between 2021 and 2023, and their findings were published in Biomarker Research, a respected scientific journal. Now, critics dismiss it but the data raises concerns that the spike protein exposure may be tied to long term health risks. Dr. Peter McCullough has been aware of this since 2020, which is why he collaborated with the wellness company to create the ultimate spike detox which is designed to help your body clear spike proteins, reduce inflammation and support heart health with natural ingredients like nattecinase, dandelion root and bromelain. It is your daily proactive defense from a man made virus. Don't wait until symptoms strike or something unexpected happens. Experience the only formula approved and used by Dr. McCullough, one of the top doctors who risked it all. Head to TWC Health,/pozo and use promo code POSO to get 10% off plus free shipping. Again, that's TWC Health. Slash POSO and use promo code POSO to Get 10% off. Get back to that pre Covid feeling. All right, so we're on with PT Keenan now and you guys may have caught the tail end of the press conference. We bled over a little into our, our segment here on, on the 2 o' clock show and which, you know, I got to talk to Caroline about that because I said, Caroline, you got to end those o'. Clock. That's when Human Events comes on here in the East Coast. And you know, usually she's good, but today, a little couple of minutes over, I just got to say one of the questions that she got was the question on the ballroom. So I'm going to put that out to our audience. Send us your email. What name should President Trump give for the White House Ballroom? 1776@Human Events.com 1776@Human Events.com and I'll put that to Peachy Keenan herself. Peachy, what are you thinking?

[Peachy Keenan]

Well, I think if I could read Donald Trump's mind, I think he's going to name it something like the American Ballroom or America's Ballroom. But I also loved your suggestion also, Jack.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, so I had said, now I know a lot of media, they're saying, oh, he's going to name it after himself, the Donald J. Trump White House Ballroom. And he's going to say that. And I, and I get that. And by the way, he totally could, right? Because he is the one. And I'll make the argument. I'll steel man the argument to steal the Charlie trick. I will steel man the argument. Even though it's not my argument. If he wanted to look, it was his idea. He's the one who raised the money for it. He's the one who is going through and he Knew. He knew that when they did. The. Guys, do we have the live stream, by the way? We were showing the live shot of the deconstruction here because we usually use White House bumper shots. So I said, put up the East Wing. And they were showing it with the crane and everything. And. And he's the one. But he knew that there would be a negative press cycle and that they would run around and say, Donald Trump is destroying the White House. And so he did all that knowing he's like, well, they're not going to say something nice about me anyway, so I might as well just go for it. And it's just true. And other presidents, even Obama, have said that wouldn't it be nice if the White House had a better place to hold these events? And yet none of them were willing to take on the actual job of doing it. Donald Trump has done so. He's done even more for the country. And so he would be well within his rights to name it the Donald J. Trump Ballroom. However, I don't personally think he is now. I don't know. I haven't actually talked to anyone over there about this, but it wouldn't surprise me. It wouldn't surprise me. And I'll just say I'd love. I would absolutely love if we could get the Charles J. Kirk Ballroom named after Charlie.

[Peachy Keenan]

That's beautiful. I love that.

[Jack Posobiec]

And I think we should be naming everything after Charlie. Right. That's what the libs would do. So we need to start normalizing, just naming things after Charlie. And I know people are doing streets. I want to go even further. I want schools, I want airports, I want. I don't know. What else can you think?

[Peachy Keenan]

Yeah, I mean, I'm surprised they didn't name Washington D.C. after George Floyd. You know, Floyd D.C. in 2020.

[Leland Vitter]

Well, they.

[Jack Posobiec]

We had. I think we had the street. We had a whole street of Black Lives Matter.

[Peachy Keenan]

Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

George Floyd Square, which, by the way, when Trump ordered them to. I don't have it right with me. But when Trump ordered that to be demolished, we went. And my brother went down there and he secured for me. Yes. I actually have a piece of the yellow brick of the Black Lives Matter Plaza that was just north of the White House. And I've got that all my. So I have a piece of the Berlin Wall and I have a piece of the BLM Plaza that has to.

[Peachy Keenan]

Go into the new Smithsonian exhibit on, like, the Woke era. That's amazing.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's the Jack Posobic Wing of Anti communism.

[Peachy Keenan]

Exactly. We can rename The Smithsonian. After you, Jack. Here. Now, here in California, we have a freeway that's named after Barack Obama since he. Since the Shovel Ready projects, you know, in his first term, there's a Barack Obama freeway that we have to drive across. I wonder what would happen if they're one of these, like, Indian illegal aliens kills 10 people on the Barack Obama.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, you know what we have that.

[Peachy Keenan]

Would be sort of perfect?

[Jack Posobiec]

What? In. In Pennsylvania, right outside of Scranton, we have, like. I forgot what they call it. I think it's the Joe Biden Expressway that they put up. And I'm just like. I'm like. I'm like, I need to. I need to get a couple of guys to go in with a. With a couple of wrenches and go and take care of that. Or maybe spray paint. I'm not sure. Kidding, kidding. I mean, in Minecraft. Minecraft. Not in my hobby. Absolutely never.

[Peachy Keenan]

Speaking of things to name after Donald Trump, I do think that by the time he leaves office, that the Dulles Airport should 100% be named international.

[Jack Posobiec]

Could you. I mean, as corrupt as the Dulles brothers were as. As pro war, and you look at everything they did to. Not for regime change all around the world. And the flying. I think, first of all, the airport itself should be, like, demolished and redone because it's disgusting. It's one of the worst airports in America. It's. It's. It's rank. I hate using it. I refuse to use it. It's just. It's just an awful airport. Never had a good experience there in my entire life. And people give me crap about the Philly airport, but I'm like, hey, it's right off I95, you're right there. Boom, you're in, you're out. It's done. You know, with. With Charlie, honestly. Wait. I just had an idea for Charlie, though, and that's all. I put my Navy hat back on for a second. The USS Charles Kirk.

[Peachy Keenan]

Yeah. Haven't they been talking about that? That they have to rename the Harvey Milk. Right. Get rid of that.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, rename the Harvey Milk the Charlie Kirk.

[Peachy Keenan]

Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

And. And by the way, have Eric commission it. Well, fumigate, then commission fumigate and then commissioning ceremony with the champagne, and then. And then, you name it, the USS Charlie Kirk. I mean, I think we have. I'm sure this is. Call him up.

[Peachy Keenan]

Let's get it done. I love it.

[Jack Posobiec]

You're always great to. Come on. Thank you so much for being here, and I know we called you last minute, so thank you. So much for that. Tell everyone where they go, follow you and get your book. And also maybe your next book.

[Peachy Keenan]

Yeah, my my book Domestic Extremists available on Amazon. My my new book Super Villains will We're about to announce they'll be coming out this spring summer. You can follow me on substack peachy keenan.com and Twitter @ keenanpeachy. Thank you so much Jack.

[Jack Posobiec]

I can't wait. This is going to be great. All right, very special, very special. Couple segments coming up next year at Human Events Daily.

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[Leland Vitter]

When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten they called me a Masochist rolled their eyes or just asked why Benghazi? The truth became a web of lies. It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.

[Peachy Keenan]

Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?

[Leland Vitter]

Bad faith, political warfare and frankly, bullshit. We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.

[Jack Posobiec]

You put two and two together.

[Leland Vitter]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?

[Jack Posobiec]

Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.

[Leland Vitter]

I'm Leon Neyfak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.

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What difference at this point does it make?

[Leland Vitter]

Yeah, that's right.

[Jack Posobiec]

Lock her up.

[Leland Vitter]

Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jack Posobiec]

Jack, Where's Jack? Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack.

[Peachy Keenan]

Thank you.

[Jack Posobiec]

What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news.

[Leland Vitter]

And the bad, but we have guys.

[Jack Posobiec]

And these are the guys who've been getting bullishers. All right, folks, Jack Posobic. We're back here. Human Events Daily. Real America's voice. Folks, Americans are tired and frustrated by a stalling economy, inflation, endless wars and the relentless assault on our values. But thankfully, there's companies like Patriot Mobile that still believe in America and our Constitution. And I'm proud to partner with them personally because Patriot Mobile is on the front lines fighting for the first and second Amendments, the sanctity of life and our military and first responder heroes take a stand for conservative causes by putting America first and switching to Patriot Mobile today, you will get the same great nationwide coverage as the big providers because Patriot Mobile operates across all three major networks. Plus they back their service with a coverage guarantee. Their 100% US based customer service team will find the best plan for your needs. Keep your number, keep your phone or upgrade. Go to patriot mobile.com posto or give them a call 972-patriot right now. You get a free month when you use promo code poso. Don't get fooled by other providers pretending to share your values or having the same coverage. They don't and they can't. So join me. Switch to America's only Christian conservative mobile provider, Patriot mobile. Go to patriot mobile.com poso or call 972-patriot. For your free month of service today. All right, I've got a special guest coming on now for Human Events Daily. First time that he's ever Been on my show, but I've been on his show. It's Leland Vitter of News Nation. What's up, Leland?

[Leland Vitter]

Jack, good to see you. Thank you.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, thanks to have you. Thanks for coming on. And I just wanted to say, you know, so you and I got to. Didn't know each other too well, but, you know, you really came out and did great coverage of when Charlie passed away, his murder, his memorial. You came out and did several days, I believe, of shows out there, even directly from the vigil itself, right outside of our Turning Point headquarters in Phoenix, Arizona. And I just wanted to say thank you for giving it the spotlight that you did and for coming out. And I know it's not easy to make the trek, but myself and a lot of the people that work with Charlie that knew Charlie, we really appreciated it.

[Leland Vitter]

Well, you're nice to say that. And we appreciated you. The very warm reception from TPUSA and the folks there. You know, when we obviously learned about Charlie's death and saw the effect it was having on the entire country, I think it was something that we needed to be at. And it's one of the things I love about News Nation is our connection to our audience that really responded to that and the nerve that Charlie's assassination touched. News Nation outrated both CNN and MSNBC during, before, during and after his funeral service. We covered the whole thing and took the whole thing live. And I think it speaks to Charlie's influence that no one I think, in life probably fully understood. Certainly I didn't. Even though I've covered him since 2015 and knew him since 2015, his influence on the national political conversation and the effect that his assassination had is something I think we're still trying to figure out. And I'll be quiet in a minute, but I would be remiss if I didn't say to you, Jack, that I think the fact that Turning Point in the midst of its founder, leader, sort of spirit animal, everything Charlie was in the midst of his assassination and that grief and that sadness to be able to pull off an event and fill a football stadium and a basketball stadium to memorialize him, those are the kinds of events that take months to plan. You know, political conventions with the president and the vice president and everything else. And Turning Point did it in a week. And it speaks to the just incredible organization and professionalism that Charlie built that I think people just did not really understand and appreciate in his living time. No.

[Jack Posobiec]

And, and, and I thank you for that as well. The entire team there. Turning Point USA Turning point action. The. And it's, it's just the people that Charlie brought together, it's the talent that he saw. It was his ability to. And I think a lot of people didn't. You know, he would always joke with me and he would say, you know, you know, Jack, if I fail at this politics thing, I'll go and be a college football coach. I'm going to go sec. And, you know, people, you know, see the videos of Charlie and he could throw the long. Well, he really could. He's a great basketball player, too. And he honestly could have probably considered, you know, considered or pursued a career in that if he wanted to. But it was his ability to see talent and then put people who had that talent in places where it made sense was how he built those organizations. And he was making them bigger and bigger. The events and the organization was getting larger. And obviously now it's exploded in terms of size and growth and interest since his assassination. But, but it was because he built everything to put, you know, everyone who was there and, you know, whatever small role I played, you know, to also kind of just be on the front lines and have a front row seat to all of that as it was going on around me, or, you know, pick up the phone, hey, can we get this thing? Can we get that thing? And, and everybody just said yes. I mean, it was one of those situations where everybody was just saying yes to everything when, whenever we needed something. The Cardinal Stadium was fantastic. They were phenomenal to work with. I mean, they just said yes, of course, right away. So many people really stepped up. And even, you know, even stories about people that I'm not really at liberty to say, because they wanted to help out, but didn't necessarily want, want to get credit for it or anything like that. They just wanted to do it because it was the right thing. And I, I, I, you know, look, none of it makes what happened right, but it was, it was truly an amazing thing to just be a very, very small part of that, that I was. And, you know, that was Charlie, right? That was Charlie understanding his ability. And, you know, it struck me that day when I walked in to the stadium and that Charlie had always told us that he wanted to do a stadium show. He always, he had always said that. And it was sort of his, his vision. And he would send us messages. This is the vision. This is the vision. And we finally got there. And in a sense, and I know, you know, he's looking down, but in a sense, you know, he knew that maybe on some level. He knew that we'd get there without him physically being present.

[Leland Vitter]

Yep. Well said.

[Jack Posobiec]

But, you know, one of the things that you passed me that, you know, in. In the midst of all this, and I had no idea that this was going on. You've just released it. You're now a New York Times bestselling author. You debuted at number four. You've written this incredible book. It's. It's a memoir, in a sense. It's. I think it's about yourself. It's about your father, your relationship with your father. But also, and this is really one for so much of the Maha audience, this is an issue that we've talked about a ton from Bobby Kennedy and his work and Nicole Shanahan and her work about living with autism and growing up with autism. It's called Born Lucky. You've received an incredible response for it and well deserved because I've had a chance to flip through. I haven't read it all yet, but I've, you know, flipped through a lot of it. I mean, this is an incredible story. What was it like, you know, coming out and publicly telling your story like this? It couldn't have been easy.

[Leland Vitter]

No. And, Jack, you're nice to say everything you did about the book. For 42 years, I didn't talk to anybody about this. My parents didn't tell anyone. No teachers, no counselors, no friends, nobody that I had been diagnosed when I was five or six years old. Through all of that, we as a family handled everything together. The learning disabilities, the bullying, the isolation, the emotional trauma and difficulties. And now, at 43, going through therapy, if you will, on national television is not exactly a thrilling experience. But it has been proven worth it because of the hundreds, if not thousands of emails, social media responses, everything I have gotten to Born Lucky because Born Lucky is hope for every parent of a kid having a hard time. Doesn't matter if it's autism or ADHD or anxiety or bullying or the social media disasters that kids go through. Whatever it is, this is proof of the power and agency that parents have. And I think you're very right to point out parents aren't told that. They're not told how much power they have to help their kids and shown they're told to just put their kids in bubble wrap and meet them where they are. My dad chose to try and adapt the world to me rather than adapt me to. The world is very different than what's out there right now. And Born Lucky, I think, is showing how many families that are having a hard time that they are not alone.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, and I just have to say it because it's, you know, there's obviously when we look at what Bobby Kennedy's doing and Nicole Shanahan and there's so many parents out there that are dealing with these issues or have children who are dealing with these issues and they want to know what to do. So even you just coming out and being public about your diagnosis and being public about your childhood and then, you know, but I, you know, I don't know how to say this without coming across as rude. I had no idea. I just shocked, I was just completely shocked when you said that. And even I'm rarely speechless, but I'm like, what? You know, it just, it made no sense whatsoever. And I'm reading through this and I realized that that's why you wrote the book. It's because of the effect of your father, the effect of growing up the way that you did. And it's a testament to the fact that other people can do this as well. And what, this is not right for them.

[Leland Vitter]

Yeah, Born lucky isn't a prescription or a cure, right, Jack? It is this story about what great parenting can do. George Will wrote the Forward and he said this is proof of the mountain moving power of parental love, which parents aren't told. You know, being a strong parent isn't celebrated right now. This is proof of what strong parenting can do. And you think about when I was about six years old, my parents were told they had to have me evaluated. Worst thing any parent can hear. So they take me one of those medical testing centers and they're in there for a couple of hours waiting for me in the waiting room. We've all been there. Linoleum floors, stale coffee, old magazines.

[Jack Posobiec]

The woman turns out. Speaking of waiting, we're going to have to wait to catch the end of that because we are up on a quick break, a hard stop, but I'll hold you right there and we'll come back right after the bakery and bitter here on Human Events Daily.

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[Leland Vitter]

When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why Benghazi? The truth became a web of lies. It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.

[Peachy Keenan]

Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?

[Leland Vitter]

Bad face, political war. Fair and frankly bullshit. We kill the ambassador just to cover something up.

[Jack Posobiec]

You put two and two together.

[Leland Vitter]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?

[Jack Posobiec]

Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.

[Leland Vitter]

I'm Leon Nayfak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.

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What difference at this point does it make?

[Leland Vitter]

Yes, that's right.

[Jack Posobiec]

Lock her up.

[Leland Vitter]

Listen to Fiasco Benghazi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jack Posobiec]

Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it.

[Leland Vitter]

And he's been my friend right from.

[Jack Posobiec]

The beginning of this home beautiful and event. And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again. Amen. All right, Jack, what's up? We're back on with Leland Vitter. He's here, joining us from News Nation. We're not talking about the news. We're talking about his new book, Born Lucky, all about the role that parents can have and the incredible role that parents have and his. And coming coming forward with his own story of growing up with a diagnosis of autism. So, Leland, where we, where we left everyone, the cliffhanger was that they're in the waiting room, they're looking at the linoleum floors. They've got that disgusting prison halogen lighting which I hate so much. What happens next?

[Leland Vitter]

So they're waiting for their little boy, six years old, me, to be brought back after all of this testing. And the woman says, there's very, very difficult things going on with him and hard to understand what's going on inside his mind, meaning mine. So I had huge behavioral issues. Forget birthday parties or play dates. That wasn't happening. But if a kid touched me in school, I turn around and slug him. And I was a fat little kid, so I could, I could do some damage. That was the behavioral issues and couldn't relate to kids my own age. Number two, terrible sensory issues. You know, if there were socks on my feet that I didn't like or a jacket I didn't like or whatever, I would just melt down. And third, big learning disability. So an IQ test, is that at the halves of an IQ or put together to form your IQ score? My two halves had a 70 point spread. It was the biggest spread they'd ever seen between the two halves. 20 point was a learning disability. She said to my parents, we never see anything like this. It's very difficult to understand what's going on inside his head. So, Jack, you're a father, any father goes, all right, what do we do? And the woman says, there's not much you can do. And the woman goes, just sort of meet him where he's at. My dad goes, is there anything we can do? And then she goes, generally not. And so I wrote Born Lucky to give parents the hope that my parents didn't have, that they could make such a difference. My dad decided he was going to adapt me to the world. So no special time on tests, no, you know, accommodations in school, no discussions with teachers or principals or anybody about my diagnosis. And he said, look, he's not going to be good at school. He's not going to be good at having friends. He's not going to be good at athletics. The three Things that kids normally get self esteem from. So he started when I was five or six years old, having me do 200 pushups a day to try and teach me what self esteem was, what hard work was. He said there's two things you can control in life, your character and your work ethic. And if you take pride in those two, that is going to make all of the difference for you. And that began him being my first and for 18 years only friend as he helped me adapt all the way through high school and college.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's incredible. Now, do you still do the 200 push ups a day? No.

[Leland Vitter]

No, I, I still, I still, I still run five miles about three times a week and I lift the other three times a week. So the physical fitness part, and I, and I think it's, it's interesting.

[Jack Posobiec]

But you kept the physical fitness.

[Leland Vitter]

Of course. Of course. Well, no, and I, I got to tell, you know, as we've is, is autism has become in the news and we didn't write this knowing that Bobby Kennedy was going to start making autism the scientific question of our time, which I'm so happy it is now and hopeful that nobody has to go through the hell that I went through as a kid. But I think the push for physical fitness for kids, especially kids who are having a hard time, whatever that means, autism, adhd, anxiety spectrum, whatever it is, it was such an enormous part of my life and so helpful and still is. I'm just happy people are talking about it.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, no, that's exactly right. And so one of the pieces that I, I mean it just shocked me that it, it, it jumped out of me in the book, other than the 200 push ups, was the fact that your father quit his job to be able to spend more time with you. You referred to him as a full time parent coach. So how does that even work from just, just a household perspective?

[Leland Vitter]

It's a great question. You know, first to tell you the dad was fortunate. We were fortunate. He had started a few companies and done quite well, but certainly was in the high, you know, the, the pinnacle of his career. He was, you know, doing phenomenal, sort of. There was so much more he could have done and knew that. And he said, I'm going to take a step back. And he, he said to me that I knew your only chance, meaning my only chance was for him to be there before I went to school and when I got home and I said, well, dad, as we were working on this book, because, you know, he didn't tell me I had this Diagnosis. Until I was in my 20s, we never really talked about it. But as I started interviewing him for the book, I said, what would you have done if you couldn't have quit your job? You know, if you couldn't have been financially secure? And he said, simple. He said, I would have worked the night shift because I realized I was going to be your only friend. And the only chance you had was for me to be there with you, to put you back together every day. And by that, I mean, you know, there was no taking away the adversity. There was no accommodations or, you know, behavioral accommodations or academic accommodations. He said, you're gonna have to endure the bullying. You're gonna have to go through the isolation and the physical bullying and the emotional heartaches. I mean, you think about it. There was a teacher. I think, you know. You know what kids do. The kids were so bad to me. In fifth grade, my dad came to visit me one day. And they had put me with the girls in PE For a few months. He found that out. Imagine what that does to a father, because I was so bullied. But by seventh and eighth grade, I was in class one day, so the kids were mean to me, and the teachers were, too. I had an art teacher who didn't think I was going to become Picasso. And this art teacher said in front of the entire class, if my dog was as ugly as you, Vitter, I'd shave its ass and make it walk backwards. Think about doing that to a kid. And so I'd come home, I was totally distraught, as I was every day. And my dad sort of patched me back together. What dad didn't tell me Jack was that middle school is great training for a Washington newsroom. And then he would make me.

[Jack Posobiec]

Inside joke. But that's a good one.

[Leland Vitter]

It's true. And then he would get me, you know, he would put me back together, and he would make me, you know, go to school the next day. But what I didn't know until we started working on the book and I interviewed him and my mom is that he would leave my bedroom every night after two or three hours of me taking my frustrations and emotions out on him. That he would go downstairs late into the night and sit in the living room and cry himself just because of the emotional toll this was all taking on him. And I just think it's a remarkable story also about my dad. Really great and honored. So many have come on the Born Lucky Journey, and it's a New York Times bestseller. And I said to my dad, Last night when I saw him, I said, you know, dad being a bestseller and author is nice. I said, but you are the subject of a best selling New York Times book, which I think is a really fitting tribute to all he did and all he sacrificed.

[Jack Posobiec]

I mean, I, I, I can tell how much you love your dad and how important your dad is. And you know, my dad, look, we didn't have that kind of situation, but I mean, we've got that kind of relationship and my dad is absolutely the person that I go to for all of it. And you know, I remember when Charlie got, when Charlie got shot, you know, my dad just gave me a call and he was just calling me like every single day even. So I flew out to Phoenix, but then my dad was still calling me, just every day. Hey, just, just calling, you know, literally just that, just calling, just checking in on you, making sure you're good boy, you know, sonny boy. He always calls me sonny boy. I, I, I noticed I pulled some, some of the foundational parenting principles out of this though. Have no expectations about the future. Right? You're not setting expectations. Never allow your child to feel they've disappointed you. You mentioned the depository of the frustrations. Just listening, literally just listening before school, late into night and then, and I love this line, by the way. The currency of high school and you know, middle school as well, is not the currency of life. Man, we put so much pressure on kids right when hormones are hitting them, we do the hierarchy, we're ranking and stacking everybody and it's like, for what? Like what? You know, and that was that. There's that joke about people peaking in, in high school that exists. And it's like none of us, you know, you know, go back to any of that. Guess what? You can't take it with you. I love so much of what's in there. We've got a minute left. Tell people just final sentence on the book and where they can go get it.

[Leland Vitter]

Well, Born Lucky's back in stock on Amazon. I know Jack is going to tweet out the link and put it on social media. Much bigger social media following than I have, Born Lucky. So it would be honored to come on this journey with us. And I'll tell you, Jack, you brought up Charlie Kirk's funeral where this started. The only other time I ever felt the kind of emotion I felt at Charlie Kirk's funeral was in Tahrir Square the night Mubarak resigned. And that's sort of one of the stories in the book about the rest of my life. And what my dad was able to set me up for was to be able to go overseas, become a foreign correspondent, now have a wife and a wonderful chance that I would have never had had he not shown all that dedication.

[Jack Posobiec]

No. And I mean, and you've been all around the world. You've covered so many obviously very tight situations and. And it, you know, it all started with 200 push ups a day with dad back home. Born Lucky is the book. Leland Vitter. Go check it out. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore. You know what your customers are doing right this second? The exact same thing.

[Leland Vitter]

You are listening to me.

[Jack Posobiec]

Which, let's be honest, is kind of flattering.

[Leland Vitter]

But my point Is, ads on iHeartRadio actually get heard in the car, at.

[Jack Posobiec]

The gym, on the couch, while people.

[Leland Vitter]

Are walking their dogs.

[Jack Posobiec]

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[Leland Vitter]

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[Jack Posobiec]

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