Human Events with Jack Posobiec, October 27th, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: Human Events with Jack Posobiec

Episode Date: October 27, 2025
Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Jack Posobiec
Guest: Orin McIntyre (Blaze Media)
Live Check-In: Ben Berkwam (Field Reporting)

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Overview:

This episode of "Human Events" with Jack Posobiec dives deep into the political consequences of mass immigration in America, focusing on New York City's mayoral race, the challenges facing American cultural identity, and the practical implications for law enforcement and policy. The conversation is interwoven with reflections on history, citizenship, and democracy, culminating in a live report from Ben Berkwam on the front lines of immigration enforcement in Houston.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Zoran Mamdani’s Mayoral Candidacy and Demographic Change

• Posobiec opens with analysis of Zoran Mamdani’s strong prospects in the New York City mayoral race, attributing his success primarily to mass immigration and demographic shifts.
• Both Posobiec and McIntyre argue that Mamdani’s appeal is less about ideology—Islam, socialism, or populism—and more about a critical mass of foreign-born voters seeing themselves represented.

Notable Quote:
"This is the wages of mass migration. If you import the Third world to your country, if you open your borders and give them free access to everything that we have. They will come and they will vote for their own people, just like they did in Minneapolis, just like they did in Dearborn, just like you’re going to do in New York City."
— Jack Posobiec (06:32)

• The hosts criticize what they see as the naivete of the "propositional nation" concept—i.e., that America is only a set of ideas, not a people or history.

Quote:
“A lot of people bought this propositional nation idea... But the problem with the propositional nation is built into the proposition of the United States is your ability to speak freely... But we have no mechanism for removing those people. And so we end up as a situation where people are arguing over ideology.”
— Orin McIntyre (14:55)

• The argument continues that new voters primarily seek representatives of their own group interests, rather than assimilating to traditional American or civic values.

2. Historical Context: Immigration, Assimilation, and Citizenship

• Posobiec and McIntyre revisit U.S. history—citing the Barbary Wars, Jefferson’s views, and WWII internments—to argue that previous generations were highly selective about whom to admit and vigilant about assimilation.

Quote:
“People throughout history have recognized that ultimately, when you have large immigrant groups, you have to be aware that unless they're fully assimilated over many, many generations, there could be this issue here.”
— Orin McIntyre (29:34)

• They assert that the modern trend of open borders and broad citizenship criteria post-9/11 is unprecedented and self-sabotaging.

Notable Segment, 26:04-28:06:
Discussion on the paradox of increased Muslim immigration after 9/11 and how even President Bush promoted “tolerance” over prudent selection.

"This is where you really know that our elites have betrayed us entirely. This is a situation where obviously we have a threat from a very specific source. And rather than turn that down, all of the messaging, even from people like George Bush, was ultimately, well, we need to be tolerant of Islam."
— Orin McIntyre (26:04)

3. The Limits of Ideological Debate and Transformation of the Electorate

• Both hosts argue mass immigration leads to irreversible demographic transformation and the loss of shared values, rendering ideology and argumentation toothless.

Highlight:
“If you want to change the voting pattern in the United States, you change the population of the United States, you don't need to win the arguments. You just literally change the population. And that's the real great replacement at the end of the day.”
— Orin McIntyre (37:12)

• A recurring theme is that the left explicitly uses immigration policy to engineer a permanent political majority, while conservatives are portrayed as unwilling or unable to recognize this.

Quote:
“Multiple, multiple Democrats have said this very proudly, that their strategy is to make the United States as foreign as possible so that ultimately those people will vote and the Republicans will lose every single election.”
— Orin McIntyre (37:12)

4. Voter Strategy and the New Jersey Governor’s Race

• Posobiec urges listeners to push conservative turnout in the New Jersey gubernatorial election and calls for conservative influencers to focus on this ‘winnable’ race.

Memorable Call to Action:
"You must normalize harassing social media influencers: Why are you not talking about New Jersey?"
— Jack Posobiec (08:19)

5. Live Field Report: The Realities of Immigration Enforcement

• Ben Berkwam checks in live from Houston, updating on ICE operations encountering community and NGO resistance.
• Berkwam emphasizes that whole communities, not just individual “illegals,” shield criminal aliens and actively resist law enforcement.
• Situation described: a Mexican national with a felony arrest warrant barricades himself in a home with children; ICE ultimately de-escalates without violence, thanks in part to cooperation with local Houston authorities.

Field Quote:
“It’s not just the illegals that were let in. It’s the communities that are aiding and abetting, protecting them. ... Just pathetic.”
— Ben Berkwam (52:34)

• Contrasts Houston’s cooperation with ICE to sanctuary cities like Chicago or Portland, warning that sanctuary jurisdictions are “a death sentence for this country” (53:09).

6. Policy Reflections: Sanctuary States and Illegal Population

• New Jersey’s high percentage of undocumented immigrants cited (6.5%—fifth in the nation), tying back to the earlier call for urgent political engagement in the state.
• Ben calls for prosecution of NGOs and entities abetting illegal entry and residence.

Quote:
"This is a massive conspiracy against this nation and every single person involved and every organization involved with it need to be prosecuted."
— Ben Berkwam (54:34)

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Notable Quotes & Segments

• On the transformation of New York City:
  "You will see open terrorism against white people in New York City when Mandani becomes mayor."
  — Jack Posobiec (07:53)

• On immigration and assimilation:
  "The closer they are to our culture, the easier they are to assimilate, but when you have radically different religions and radically different language ... they're not going to integrate, they're not going to assimilate."
  — Orin McIntyre (18:37)

• On democratic strategy:
  "The purpose of the refugee program is to create democratic voters."
  — Orin McIntyre (41:30)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Mamdani analysis and mass immigration: 05:00 – 08:30, 13:04 – 18:37
• The "propositional nation" critique: 14:55 – 17:00
• Debate over first amendment and American identity: 20:58 – 23:07
• Post-9/11 immigration paradox: 26:04 – 28:06
• Historical internment and selective assimilation: 29:34 – 32:38
• Mass democracy and demographic change: 37:12 – 39:33
• Live report on ICE raid in Houston: 46:39 – 54:34
• NGO and community resistance to enforcement: 51:26 – 54:34

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Tone & Style

The episode is combative, urgent, and driven by a sense of cultural crisis. Posobiec adopts direct calls to political action and blends historical references with contemporary analysis. McIntyre is analytical and provides a framework for understanding the political impact of demographic change. Berkwam’s reporting is gritty and dramatic, emphasizing the dangers and logistical complexity of on-the-ground immigration enforcement.

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Summary for Non-Listeners

This episode of "Human Events" offers a starkly critical view of mass immigration and its effects on American politics and culture. Using New York City's mayoral election as a case study, Jack Posobiec and guest Orin McIntyre tie demographic change directly to political outcomes, arguing that the fabric of the nation—its values, citizenship, and democracy—is under threat from the left's explicit strategy to reshape the electorate. The analysis is supplemented by a live report from Ben Berkwam, who describes the practical and often dangerous realities faced by immigration enforcement officers in the field, reinforcing the episode's message: this is not just a political debate, but a tangible, ongoing transformation with real-world consequences.

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Note: All timestamps are approximate and exclude ad reads, intros, and outros.

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After unveiling a flurry of trade deals with multiple Asian countries.

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President Trump announced he has paused all trade negotiations with Canada over a TV ad that used President Ronald Reagan's words criticizing tariffs in Canada. They are pulling the ad so the trade talks can can resume.

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There has been a government shutdown here. People are suffering. Federal employees are starting to go to food banks. Any light at the end of the tunnel on that? Should the president be meeting with Democrats again?

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Martha? They've dug in.

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The American people are hostage to Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jefferies. Poll numbers because what's changed between now.

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And the last time there was a.

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Clean continuing resolution is Chuck Schum. Schumer has tanked in the polls. The both of the two guys from Brooklyn, like I call them, are worried.

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About being primaried from the left. 52 Republican senators have voted 11 times.

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To reopen the government.

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3 brave moderate Democrats have come across the aisle. So you know, I call on moderate.

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Democratic senators to end this craziness. You'll be heroes after the 2026 midterms.

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Yeah, I'd be lying otherwise.

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Governor Gavin Newsom isn't the only Democrat though considering a White House bid.

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Have you made a decision yet?

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No, I have not.

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President Trump with a clear message of force in the Caribbean. We stop all drugs virtually from coming in by sea and we'll stop all drugs from coming in by land very shortly. The Pentagon now sending the Navy's largest aircraft carrier strike group to the region, the USS Gerald R. Ford, nearly doubling the number of US forces there and adding to the B1 bombers flown near Venezuela's coast this week. The Trump administration has accused Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro of heading up the Cartel de los Solis and facilitating the flow of drugs into the U.S. this is.

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Forever. Forever. Peace forever. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. We're here live on Real America's voice. Today is October 27, 2025 Anno Domini. Hope you guys are getting ready for spooky Halloween. But of course, spooky season. Halloween is entirely Christian, by the way. But spooky season has already begun in York City where Zoran Mum Dami, as it turns out. And if you go look at all of the polls, if you go look on some of the betting markets like Kalshi, where people are are putting up money for on this, it looks as though he is running away with it. We talked about this last week where both Cuomo and Curtis Sliwa had not, neither of them had dropped out. Didn't look like either of them were going to. I would encourage Cuomo to drop out and Cuomo, in fact, should be the one to drop out in that race. But he's not going to. And let this be a lesson, folks. This is the wages of mass migration. If you import the Third world to your country, if you open your borders and give them free access to everything that we have. They will come and they will vote for their own people, just like they did in Minneapolis, just like they did in Dearborn, just like you're going to do in New York City. In America's greatest city, you will now have someone who only became a citizen in 2018. Someone whose family, whose background, whose beliefs have no bearing culture or history with our country, with America, and someone who believes wholeheartedly in cultural Marxism. It will be open season on white people in New York City when Mandani becomes mayor. You will see open terrorism against white people in New York City when Mondami becomes mayor. Go ahead, write me up Media Matters. Go ahead. You know I'm right and I will be proven right. But fortunately, fortunately there is hope. Because just across the river in New Jersey, that is where things are absolutely heating up for the Republican candidate, Jack Chitterelli, and to everyone within New Jersey. That is in the sound of my voice. Get to the polls right now. Polls are open to 10am to 8pm every single day this week. They also open, I believe it's 10 to 7 on Saturday and then 10 to 6 on Sunday. Double check that with your local area to make sure. But I believe it's 10am Every single you need to be there. You must have a plan. You must normalize going to the polls to vote for Jack Cittarelli. And if you are not in New Jersey, then what you must, you do, you must go to every single person in your phone contacts, every single person you know that has any connection New Jersey who might be a New Jersey voter, and say, you must start asking them, have you voted yet? Have you voted yet, New Jersey? Have you voted yet? We when are you going to vote? When are you going to vote? When are you going to vote? When are you going to vote for Jack Ciarli? It's very simple. You must do this. You must be persistent and you also must normalize. Harass social media influencers. Why are you not talking about New Jersey? Why are you not talking about the election in New Jersey? Why are you talking about any other issue? If you have not yet told your followers, your subscribers, the people who listen to you about the election in New Jersey, it is paramount. This is a winnable, close election that Republicans can win if they get out the vote. It's as simple as that. So please harass, harass, harass every single conservative pundit and social media influencer that you can find and ask them, why aren't you talking about the election in the Garden State, New Jersey Right back Jack Posobic Human Events Daily continues.

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Always glad to have you here. So Zoran Mandami is now, it looks like he's got a pretty much a clear path to becoming the mayor of America's greatest city. It's our largest city. It's certainly our most economically viable city. It is the city that is the symbol of the United States of America around the world. And yet it doesn't seem that the mayor of this city is quite reflective of the country at all or perhaps is reflective of the new country. And so aren't you and I have been on here and you on your program done incredible work talking about what is an American talking about these massive issues. And I think it's very clear, I think it's so incredibly clear. I've said this, vice president has said this, that Zoram Mandami is winning because of mass immigration, because you can see that as the foreign born population of New York City, which has these highly concentrated in this area, they are the ones that are the leading edge for his candidacy above all other demographic groups. Now I don't mean to say that there aren't like the young urban creatives that are for him. There's a lot of zoomers, there's a lot of millennial support, et cetera, et cetera, but it's not really the yuppies, right? They were going for Cuomo and then you see, quote, unquote, old New York was for Curtis Lewis. But it doesn't matter anymore because you have these massive foreign born populations. Why is it that so many conservatives feel the need to say, oh, this is because of Islam. I mean it doesn't really strike me as particularly Jihadi. And, or they'll say, oh, you know, it's, it's what's socialism? And then when you hear him, he's really just using a lot of populist rhetoric. Why is it so hard for people to simply admit that America, we've got a little bit of an addiction and it's an addiction to mass immigration.

[Orin McIntyre]

Well, it's because I think a lot of people bought this propositional nation idea. The nation is just a set of beliefs and anyone can come here and hold, hold those beliefs. But ultimately the problem with the propositional nation is built into the proposition of the United States is your ability to speak freely is your First Amendment right to share your beliefs. And if your beliefs don't coincide with American founding values, well, if you're actually an American, we don't just like load you in a catapult and throw you out. So the idea that there's some kind of proposition that you have to constantly assent to simply doesn't work once people are here. Yes, they may have raised their hand and they might have said that they ultimately pledge loyalties to the United States, but becomes very clear that they're abandoning that immediately, that they never really shared those values. But we have no mechanism for removing those people. And so we end up as a situation where people are arguing over ideology. Well, oh no, he's a socialist. That's what we're really worried about. How did all the people in New York suddenly become socialists? Or oh, he's a Muslim. How did all the people in New York suddenly go become pro Muslim? Well, the real problem ultimately is not that he won over the majority of New Yorkers with his amazing rhet and the incredible logic and power of communist economics. The reason he's winning is because more people want people who look like them in power. He reflects the demographics of the incoming New York, which is radically different. And these people don't care if the economics fail they're not really, you know, very interested in the mechanics of the ideology and whether or not some abstract economist decided that this is the best way to manage our finances. What they care about is that they can just loot the state that they got here. They don't really care about the country. They don't care about whether or not it works. They care about whether or not they're getting their benefits and people like them are in power. But Americans have been so programmed against this thought that we can't grasp the fact that. The fact that ultimately it is immigration and not the marketplace of ideas that is winning this election for Mamdani.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, and that's exactly right. Because ultimately, when you have a multicultural society, it is not the marketplace of ideas that determines everything. You got to go one rung lower on Maslow's hierarchy and you're just going to, hey, who are the people that look like me? And I'm going to go support the people who look like me or sound like me or have names that sound like mine. And this is a huge reason. Zoron, Zoran Zoron. You see it everywhere. You see it on all of his, his logos and his marketing, right? That is done for a purpose. That is done for a reason. And so he's marketing directly to this and understands politically he's obviously a very sharp guy and he understands that all he has to do is exist and quote, unquote, play up his foreignness to that population and he is going to be able to win. It's really, really easy. So I was just in a. We pre taped the Piers Morgan show earlier with Mark Lamont Hill and some other people. And he and I got into this back and forth that I wanted to point out where I said that that's clearly what's going on here is that this isn't some, you know, America is being changed because of mass immigration. And we had this debate topic about the Muslim call to prayer. And I pointed out, well, this isn't happening because of some, you know, test of religion and because people are suddenly flocking to Islam. It's because it's happening because we are mass importing Muslims from the third world from Somalia to Minneapolis, from, from the Arab nations, Muslim nations, to Dearborn, Michigan. And that is the reason that you're saying to Houston, te is all over the place. That is the reason that you are seeing this. And he tried to argue with me that it isn't. That that wasn't changing the character of Minneapolis. I kid you not.

[Orin McIntyre]

Oh, I entirely Believe it. Because ultimately the left is just using this as a smokescreen. They've always known that mass immigration is good for their politics. And not again, because they're going to make the best argument. They know that if people come from outside America, they're going to vote for the party that gives the benefits of, of America to non Americans. It's really that simple. It's not complicated in the slightest. And we can even see this in the elected representatives from places that are dominated by Somali populations. Of course. Ilhan Omar. But now several others have openly come out and said, usually in a foreign language, that they support the people of Somalia first, that their job is to serve the people of Somalia first. The Somalian community is what really matters to them, and America is secondary at best. There's nothing strange about this. Yes, in the level. At some level, it's a betrayal of their oath to America, but in another, it's really the ultimate manifestation of how most of the world exists, which is in a highly tribalized way. Now, in America, we don't like to think about that, and we really shouldn't have to think about that. And as long as we controlled immigration, we didn't have to think about that. But when you have mass immigration, you're breaking down the homogeny of the entire culture. And when you do that, you have this situation where each one of these little groups is vying for what can be theirs. They no longer see the country as a whole thing, that they're a part of a project, an identity that they are growing into. Instead, they see themselves as different groups that can carve a little benefit out for themselves. We've always had a certain level of immigration in the United States. Some waves have been larger and less, well, assimilated. Some have been smaller and very easily assimilated. The amount the culture is close to America really matters. The closer they are to our culture, the easier, easier they are to assimilate. But when you have radically different religions and radically different language and radically different custom coming into the United States, all of them trying to vie for control of different areas, they're not going to integrate, they're not going to assimilate. They're going to carve those pieces out. And it has nothing to do with whether or not socialism or even Islam, which I am worried about in the United States. But even Islam is not ultimately the problem. The problem is if you just stopped shipping these people in, then you wouldn't have to deal with this in the first place. And until any politician is ready to talk about that. I'm not taking them seriously about the Islamification or the socialist nature of these politics.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, again, because they'll sit there and act like, oh, I guess it's like, oh, it's so much easier to just say, I'm against. And I disagree with your idea, I disagree with this.

[Orin McIntyre]

But.

[Jack Posobiec]

But again, you know, that puts you in, you know, kind of a bad position if you're, you know, just in a debate situation because they're going to then turn to say, oh, well, look, your First Amendment says that you need to be a pluralist and therefore you need to have freedom of religion and you need to have this, you need to have that. And it's like the reason that obviously the First Amendment was written for Christians, but the reason that it wasn't explicitly done so is because to mass import the population of the Ottoman Empire into the formerly British colonies was just so completely divorced from any kind of view that the original Americans had, that the founders had, that they didn't think you had to. I mean, it's like saying, why don't the fish, you know, why don't the fish talk about how wet the water is? It's just inherent, it's just obvious. And so that's why these things aren't written in. And there's a bunch of, of course, great cartoons about this where you want to go back and say, like, you know, especially for the Second Amendment right, make sure you write no one is allowed to change the words of, or interpret this out of, you know, meaning anything other than flintlocks or something. Yes, it covers all firearms, you know, and it's absurd. And you take it to greater lengths and it continues to be absurd because they want to tell us that our history isn't our history. They want to tell us that our cultural identity and our norms are not our cultural identity and our norms, and that instead our norms are ever changing and that it's totally fine if Minneapolis goes from. You can go look at the Mall of America opening videos from 1990. 1991. And it don't look like it does today. It's really as simple as that. It doesn't have a massive Somalian character to it. It looks like America. Jack, Posobic or McIntyre back here. Real America's voice. Human events daily.

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[Jack Posobiec]

These are influences and they're friends of mine. Jack.

[Orin McIntyre]

Where's Jack?

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He's got a great job.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right, folks are back. Jack Posobic, we're on with R. McIntyre of Blaze Media, host of the Arne McIntyre Show. And we're talking about, you know, really these questions of Zora Mandami, these questions of how is he becoming the mayor of New York City. And there's a really simple answer. It's not the sort of, you know, there's this like, I don't know, just very odd like argument, sort of a knee jerk response from I'm seeing a lot of people from like the over 55 crowd. I'm just going to say it, the over 55 crowd saying, oh, I can't believe, can't believe people want to vote for a Muslim. Can't believe people want to vote for a Muslim. And it's like no, you're not asking the right question. The question is not have the people, have the people of New York Forgotten 9 11? The question is are the people of New York who live there today the same as the people who live there on 9 11? And the answer is simply that they're not. And the idea being that after 911 and maybe I'll ask Oren this our guest Oren, why is it that after the events of 911 that for some reason the United States opened its doors wide to the countries like Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan that were associated with it?

[Orin McIntyre]

Yeah, this is the most insane thing that that's true about the United States. Right after the largest terror attack in American history, so many thousands of people dead, we saw a vast increase in Muslim immigration into the United States. And this is where you really know that our elites have betrayed us entirely. This is a situation where obviously we have a threat from a very specific source. And rather than turn that down, all of the messaging, even from people like George Bush, was ultimately, well, we need to be tolerant of Islam. And they become, they can become Americans just like anyone else. And it's all the same because again, we're a propositional nation. And as long as you agree to the values, then it doesn't matter if you're doing the call to prayer or you're going to Catholic mass or any of these things, they're all the same. Because America is really just an idea. It's not a people, it's not a tradition, it's not a set of beliefs that is carried by specific people. No, ultimately it is just this abstract idea that you can absorb. But of course this is ridiculous because for instance, a large number of Afghanis coming in the United States are people who are theoretically refugees or the help the United States during these wars. But this would never occur to any other president. Look at Thomas Jefferson, right? He wrote that all men are created equal and endowed with their creator by these inalienable rights. And this is self evident, right? It's self evident. But when Thomas Jefferson goes to war with the Barbary pirates, he's not under the impression that if he just brings in all the people who helped him against the Barbary Pirates, that they're just going to become Americans. He knew that they were self evident to a people, to a tradition. It was self evident to Christians from a certain part of the world who carried a certain understanding of how society should be running. You can't just plug in a bunch of people from Tripoli into this system and expect it to run exactly the same way. Thomas Jefferson pinned those words, but he knew that just wasn't the case. So if you're throwing the borders open to a bunch of Muslims after 9 11, assuming that they just walk in and touch the magic dirt and become Americans, you're completely deluding yourself. And that's why you see the voting change in a place like New York.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's, it's really bizarre. And, and again, the founding fathers, the United States, this idea was so divorced from anywhere in their thinking that. And certainly they were well aware of the Ottoman Empire. Certainly they were well aware of the ancient parts of the world, the ancient world that they were, you know, viewed themselves as breaking away from and becoming members of the new world and instituting a new state in the midst of this. There's no question. And you're right to your point, the Barbary Pirates were a. An arm of the Ottoman Empire that the United States fought its, you know, first sor. You know, foreign conflict against. And at no point was there a thought that, yes, we should be inviting in the people that we are at war with. This will go well for us. No. And in fact, in our most recent major war, we interred the people that we were at war with at a mass expanse. The Democrats did this, by the way, in the United States. And you saw this happen in other countries of the Allies as well. And so, you know, not to relitigate all of that, but it's just this idea, this very strange idea that, you know, somehow you've come to. I mean, and you go parts, by the way, parts of New York, you go to parts of Northern Virginia, Northern Virginia, where the Pentagon sits, and it's surrounded by mosques. And you see that. You see this everywhere. You see this all over the streets, and it's really nothing. You know, it's. It's remarkable. I can't really think of anything quite like it in all of history.

[Orin McIntyre]

Well, I'm glad you actually brought up FDR's internment because most people will put, you know, put up the internment of the Japanese as the example here. Right. But don't forget he also interned Germans. Right. Who in ways are thought of as being basically as American as anyone else at this point. It's not just about ethnic minorities who happen to have a different shade of skin. European white Europeans were also interred because they were worried that they might ultimately be loyal to a homeland that they were recently. They had recently left, as opposed to. To the United States. So the idea that this is purely racial is just not the case. People throughout history have recognized that ultimately, when you have large immigrant groups, you have to be aware that unless they're fully assimilated over many, many generations, there could be this issue here. Right. And so this is not something that is totally racialized or it only comes from a sector of a particular world. It is throughout American history, if you do not have generations of assimilation, if they have not completely assumed Their, their role in the United States, then that's going to be a problem. Now the founders knew that Christianity was a big part of what was going to hold the United States together. It was predominantly Protestant Christianity. But of course there was a presence of Catholics at the time and they allowed for it, even though they were a little hesitant about it. And you can see that in the fact that most of the colonies actually banned Catholics from holding public office inside those states once, once they became states, states. So even at that time, the idea that just these two different versions of Christianity was like, well, this is probably as far as we can go with tolerance, right? Like we're extremely tolerant because we think that we can work with Catholics and Protestants in the same country. The idea that now you need to bring in radically different religions, many of which have a complete ethos of like jihad or attack against those religions, it simply makes no sense. The founders would have rejected it outright. The idea that, you know, the First Amendment or some idea of religious pluralism was ultimately what even a guy like Thomas Jefferson was going for in that sense is just ridiculous.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, it's certainly not. And just like all things that the founders wrote, they should be written within the understanding of the time and within the context of the time. Again, if they wanted to attract people from other parts of the world, they certainly knew how to do so. They were well aware of those, of those other areas. They were well aware of those, those nationalities, those nations, those empires. And no, you don't see these massive entreaties from Jefferson and, and Washington and Adams to the Ottomans. It's, it's just completely unheard of. By the way, I would be remiss if I did not note that there were Italians also interred during World War II. Certainly not as many as the Japanese or even the Germans. But yes, Italians, Germans and Japanese were on turn. This was not a racial situation. It was a question of are we at war or are we not? And in fact, that's the real history that we're talking about here. The history of ethnicity, nationalism, war and peace. All of this matters. And that's why Zora Madame is about to become the next mayor. Be right back.

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[Orin McIntyre]

Where's Jack?

[Jack Posobiec]

Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack.

[Ben Berkwam]

Thank you.

[Jack Posobiec]

What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys.

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[Jack Posobiec]

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[Orin McIntyre]

This should be really simple, right? Like, mass democracy is something that our founders really spoke up against. They had restrictions on who could have the franchise and when and where. It was not this open system we have today, but we have made that like the basis of our country at this point. Mass democracy is the way that we legitimate our rulers. Well, if you have mass democracy and you bring in a bunch of people who don't hold your beliefs, who don't hold your values, who don't have a generational loyalty to the United States and what it stands for, then they will choose other ideas. They will bring their ideas with them. If you import the third World, you will become the third World because that's just how numbers in democracy work. You don't have to believe anything crazy about race or any stuff like that to ultimately recognize that if you bring a bunch of people in from a country that's, you know, got nothing to do with the United States, and you say, hey, would you like to pick a system where you have to earn every single thing that you get, or would you like a system where we're going to take the stuff from other people and hand it to you? What are they going to choose? They're going to choose the second one because guess what, they just got here. They don't have an investment in the system. Their ancestors weren't involved in building it up or making it what it is. And so something like socialism, where they appropriate the wealth of Americans. And as you pointed out, mom, Donnie has made it very clear that he intends to take mostly from white New Yorkers and not others. When they see that, they say to themselves, well, yeah, that's a lot easier than coming in and necessarily making it from, you know, from scratch. As an American, this is a very simple thing to understand. If you want to change the voting pattern in the United States, you change the population of the United States, you don't need to win the arguments. You don't need to prove your system is better, you don't need to have a better messaging. You just literally change the population. And that's the real great replacement at the end of the day. Maybe it's racially motivated, maybe it's not, but it's certainly politically motivated because the Democrats have said out loud, very proudly that if they can open the borders, then they have a demographic advantage in perpetuity and that eventually they will win no matter what. Multiple, multiple. Democrats have said this very proudly, that their strategy is to make the United States as foreign as possible so that ultimately those people will vote and the Republicans will lose every single election. The Democrats know this. It's time for Republicans to stop pretending they don't know this either.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's really amazing because you'll see refugee program after refugee program and suddenly are there are these temporary protected status programs.

[Orin McIntyre]

They have.

[Jack Posobiec]

They have all this whole litan of various programs that they use to say, well, that's not an illegal alien. See, look, they have this piece of paper. It's totally different. Or, you know, that person has legal ability to be here because, well, look, you know, we told them they could, and then again they're supported and propped up by this entire Archipelago of NGOs and government institutions and ultimately taxpayer funding so we are, in fact, funding our own demise through this. And you sit there and you go. And then. And then, like, the joy reads when, of course, when she was feeling the joy on msnbc, will sit there and say, well, it's just. It's just a natural. It's just a natural, organic progression. It's just a natural evolution over. No, it's not. It's not natural at all.

[Orin McIntyre]

It's a.

[Jack Posobiec]

Do you have much money it costs to fly to Africa or how much money it costs to fly to India? These things take money. This is logistics. This is not, you know, this is not like walking across the street or something like this. No. All of this takes time, money and effort. And what they'll do then is they'll claim that, you know, that it's totally fine and that America is enough. And I think one of the issues, too, is that there's too many people, even on the right, I'm just gonna say it, that haven't really updated their mental worldview, so they have this fried mental model of the way the world is, much of which adopt. Is adopted from the left. And they'll think, oh, America is America for all things. And it. You know, it's not. You know, it's not a. It's a limited, limitless source of resources, a limitless source of opportunity. And that's great. That's romantic language. But unfortunately, romanticism is the tradition of the Marxists. Right. As conservatives, you should want to deal in reality, you should want to deal in scarcity. You should want to actually deal in the world that we inhabit, not the world that you wish it could be. And so because we have that, you sit there and you say, wait a minute. Sure is peculiar how all these migrants end up in the swing states, isn't it?

[Orin McIntyre]

Yeah. You know, Russell Kirk wrote the Conservative Mind. Yeah. One of the guidebooks to conservative ideology and his work. Whole point at the beginning of that book is that ultimately, conservatism is not about ideology. It's not about abstract theory. It's about defending a concrete people, a concrete way of life. And so conservatives need to stop playing the ideological game. They need to stop being afraid of defending the United States and its people as opposed to trying to defend some abstract ideology. It's exactly what Kirk told us not to do. Ultimately, we can recognize, as you point out, that this is not. Not something that's genuine, it's not something that's organic. Because all you have to do is look at what the Democrats did when the Trump administration said we're going to start bringing white South Africans into the United States because they are refugees. They are people who are in a position where the government is trying to kill them. They freaked out and they said, this is white supremacy. Because for so long, the entire refugee system in the United States has been bent, has. Has been aimed in the direction of bringing other races, other people's, other religions into the United States. And the idea that a white person could be a refugee was so radical to them that they got absolutely insane about it. They lost their mind. Because it's clear that the refugee program is not meant to actually bring in people who are really being targeted, as the Afrikaners are in South Africa, for death by their own governments. That is not the purpose of the refugee program. The purpose of the refugee program is to create democratic voters. That's what it really exists to do. And so when you point out, oh, no, there are some white people over here, and they really are being oppressed by the government, they really are calling to kill the bar. They really are calling to get rid of these people, and we need to bring them in if we're going to be consistent with a refugee policy. The left loses their mind because they know that's not what the refugee policy is there to do. It's the same thing with home loans, business loans, education, you know, health care. All of these things are offered to immigrants or to refugees, often before they are even offered to Americans in the United States. This program is stacked to encourage foreigners to come in, to take root in the United States, and to vote Democrat. It's a wide patronage network that is there to buy votes for the Democrats, not to help people who are actually in trouble.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right. And so Mandami knows that when he walks into this situation, when he walks into this ecosystem, he doesn't need to, quote, unquote, state his. His plan, you know, outwardly, although he does when you, when you, when you ask him some questions. But he typically will sit on the stump and say, oh, it's just about. It's just about health care, it's just about working wages, just about rent, it's just about housing. And then you start teasing him out a little bit, and he goes, well, yeah, we're going to take it from the white people, and we're going to make sure that we take all the white people's stuff and give it to everybody else. And they all inherently know that, too. His voters inherently know that that's what his program is and they want it. These are the people who supported Maggione and really when you got it the same city, right? New York City. Magione Mamdani. Well, we've got the the moderates and the radicals yet again. It's the most. It's the Bolsheviks and the mensheviks or a McIntyre. I wish we could talk all day, brother. Where can people go to follow you and get more access to your work?

[Orin McIntyre]

I've got the Orin McIntyre Show. It's on Blaze TV. It's also on YouTube, Rumble, all your favorite podcast platforms. And then of course I am Orrin McIntyre on Twitter. Sorry, never calling it X.

[Jack Posobiec]

Salute to you, brother. All right, we'll be right back. We've got breaking news up live on the ground with Ben Berkwam. We're back in one second. Human events Daily.

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[Jack Posobiec]

Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it. And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event and we're going to turn it around and make our country great again. Amen. All Right, Jack, what's up Here we are back live. Human Events Daily. Want to go now live on the ground where we have Ben Berkwam who just got, I believe just wrapped up a situation revolving, involving and a barricaded illegal alien. Ben, give us the, give us the update. What's the skinny where you're at?

[Ben Berkwam]

Yeah, in Houston at the field office, we just picked up three illegals. Just wrapped up a two day operation with 260 illegals picked up across the city. But what we're seeing all over, including places like Plum Grove, they hit heavy in Colony Ridge, you know that area. Basically an entire community built for illegal aliens. But what we're seeing here in Houston, just like I saw in Chicago last week and in Portland the week before and in New York, everywhere we're going across the country are these activist organizations. The same NGOs that were aiding and abetting the invasion of our country are now aiding and abetting the illegals. And in this case with these barricaded ones, we were told that they were actually talking to an NGO from inside the house. These guys were at a field or at a traffic stop. They ran from ICE officers, ran into the house, created a major situation. Thank God nobody was injured in it. But this is what ICE is dealing with every single day because of these activist judges and these activist organizations.

[Jack Posobiec]

And so when you're talking about the barricade situation, do you know, do you, do we know if they were armed at the time or was it something where they were just refusing to come out of the house? I mean, again, this is a situation that ICE agents find themselves in. In addition, right to all the riots and the protests and the insanity that the great frontlines team that has covered, that you've covered just go on a routine call. They know they're going after the worst of the worst. They're going after criminals, they're going after cartel members. And they, that's why they roll in in force. That's why they up armor, that's why they put on, that's why they're wearing their field kit, their battle rattle, because they know that they could be facing anything on the other side of that door.

[Ben Berkwam]

Yeah, that's exactly right. In Houston. Houston's one of the cartel hubs in America. They. So what happened this morning? I don't. We have the clip ready to play, but they pulled from a traffic stop. There was one. What's that?

[Jack Posobiec]

They're, they're working on getting it up.

[Ben Berkwam]

Copy, copy. Okay, so what we were told was there Was one illegal from Mexico. A previous deportee pulled him over. He. He refused to stop, ended up driving back to this location, got out of the vehicle, ran inside with two other individuals. @ that point, they didn't know if he was armed. They ended up finding out later that there were children inside the house as well. So they got a felony warrant to go inside and apprehend this guy. As I arrived on the scene, they were planning to break the door down and go get this guy. Thankfully, he ended up coming out and the two others did as well. He's a Mexican national. Again, a previous deportee. But this is, as you said, this is what ICE is having to deal with every day. You're talking about hardened cartel members, hardened gang members that are being protected by the communities that they live in. Because half the communities are illegal as well. You go to some of these communities, it's over 50% are illegal. Living in that community, they have this rapid response network. So any ICE agent or any federal agent that's seen in their neighborhood, they start making phone calls, they start surrounding the vehicles, they start attacking ICE officers. I've witnessed it personally multiple times. And so not only is ICE having to deal with the illegal that are potentially armed and dangerous hardened criminals, but they're also having to deal with the community that's potentially armed and dangerous alone.

[Jack Posobiec]

Agenda by the left, Ben. I'm told we. We do have that clipper. Let's cut to it now. He's an illegal entrant. We got a criminal arrest warrant that we're going to go in on to get him for illegal re entry. He's already been deported once. We're attempting to make an arrest of him at a different location. He fled to here and then got inside the house and barricaded himself.

[Ben Berkwam]

And so he fled in the vehicle?

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, first in the vehicle and then on foot into the house.

[Ben Berkwam]

Copy.

[Jack Posobiec]

At that point, we went, got the criminal arrest warrant, connected with local law enforcement to make sure we can secure the scene. Obviously, as you can see, there's a lot of folks here that are drowned. They are upset. And so we want to make sure everybody's safe. The public, the officers, and the individual that's barricading himself inside the house. And right now, I'm sure they're making a plan to go in there safely and get him out so that nobody gets hurt.

[Ben Berkwam]

I think two of them get him probably over there on this side.

[Orin McIntyre]

All right, let's clear.

[Ben Berkwam]

Let's clear.

[Orin McIntyre]

Let's clear.

[Jack Posobiec]

Let's go.

[Ben Berkwam]

You're endangering your baby.

[Orin McIntyre]

You're endangering your baby.

[Ben Berkwam]

We're up against America. It's not just the illegals that were let in. It's the communities that are aiding and abetting, protecting them. Like this right here, walking out in traffic. Walking out in traffic with her baby. Just pathetic.

[Jack Posobiec]

Ben, incredible footage. So as you say that the entire community coming out, you know, obviously it was peaceful, but, I mean, that was a situation that looked like it was getting pretty hairy. It looked like it could have gone sideways there on you.

[Ben Berkwam]

Yeah. No, and that's again, in each one of these, there's that tipping point, and you've got all these violent thugs on one side that want it to get violent. And you never know. I mean, it is that close. In all of these situations, and many of the times I'm out there, it does go violent. And that's why you have border patrol and ID having to deploy gas to get out safely. They're trying to surround vehicles. They were trying to stop vehicles as we leave. Thankfully, police. This is the big difference, Jack, in sanctuary jurisdictions like I was at in Chicago versus a place like Houston where law enforcement actually works with ice. Law enforcement held these guys back. They've created a perimeter. They allowed ICE to get in and out safely. That's the difference. We go to a place like Portland or Chicago, Mexico, where police are actually working against you. That's the problem that we have in this country. And every jurisdiction is different, but the sanctuary jurisdictions are a death sentence for this country if we allow them to continue.

[Orin McIntyre]

One.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's one of the, you know, just kind of tie it back to what I was talking about in the prior opening here. That's exactly one of the big reasons that Jack Ciarelli has made ending New Jersey's sanctuary state policy one of the centerpiece. Centerpieces of his campaign specifically for criminal illegals. Because New Jersey, as small as it is, as one of the highest per capita illegal populations in the entire country. Have you done. You've done some work up there, right, Ben?

[Ben Berkwam]

Yeah, yeah. And this is. I was in New York. You've got it all over the country. You've got population. Like I was saying, you've got population densities that are 50 plus percent. In fact, some cases it's 60, 70%. It's unknown in many that are illegal populations living in the United States that were invited in and strategically located in many of these places that were guided there by the cartels in some instances, or by these NGOs that are profiting off this and that are profiting and supplying funds and support for all the protests that we have going on across our country. This is a massive conspiracy against against this nation and every single person involved and every organization involved with it need to be prosecuted.

[Jack Posobiec]

I just looked it up by the way. New Jersey is number five in the entire country in terms of illegal alien population at as many as 6.5% of the entire state. That's after Nevada, California, Texas and Florida. So New Jersey number five and then New York right behind them at at number six at 4.5%. Ben, give people your coordinates, give people your socials and where they can follow you and support you while I hope that you are staying safe while embedding with the agents out there.

[Ben Berkwam]

Yeah, stay tuned. I can't talk about everything we're going to be doing, but stay tuned. Ealam voice on all social media. My personals Ben Berquam Substack is Frontline america and websites frontlineamerica.com and I will be speaking in Utah this Saturday. If you guys are anywhere near the Salt Lake City area, you can get tickets for it. It's utahspatriots.com utahspatriots.com Myself, Dave Bray will wit Jeremy Harrell, an amazing group line up there on Saturday. So look forward to seeing you guys there.

[Jack Posobiec]

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