Human Events with Jack Posobiec – October 2, 2025

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Episode Overview

On this emotionally charged episode, Jack Posobiec hosts a roundtable-style discussion in Phoenix, Arizona, joined by Andrew Colvett, Blake Neff (Charlie Kirk Show producer), and guest Frank Turek. The episode focuses largely on the recent severing of ties between the FBI and the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), the continued influence of the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), and the aftermath of the assassination of Charlie Kirk. The show weaves together critical analysis of political nonprofit organizations, discussions of American political culture, and heartfelt remembrance of Charlie Kirk’s life and legacy.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Federal Actions and Crime Updates (00:27 - 01:36)

• Federal Funding to NYC Paused:
  The Trump administration halts $18 billion in New York infrastructure funds, critiqued as tied to “unconstitutional DEI principles.”
• Chicago Operation Midway Blitz:
  Large-scale federal raids target the Trende Aragua gang in Chicago, yet criticism arises that political motivations, not just public safety, drive these actions.

2. ADL, SPLC, and "Hate Group" Narratives (02:17 - 06:38)

• ADL Under Fire:
  The FBI has ended its partnership with the ADL. Elon Musk is also pressuring the government to drop its contracts with them.
• SPLC Scrutiny Intensifies:
  • Online discourse highlights both organizations as leading “purveyors of hate,” with Turning Point USA and other prominent conservative/christian groups added to SPLC’s “hate map.”
  • Panelists assert these groups distort hate definitions, incite violence, and influence media, government, and tech companies.
  • Reference is made to two high-profile shooters with links to SPLC hate lists.
• Notable Quote:
  • Andrew Colvett (03:02):
    “You want to be a big hate group? Just call yourself an anti-hate group.”

3. Critique of the SPLC's Finances and Methods (09:54 - 15:29)

• Massive Endowment Revealed:
  The SPLC is called out for its nearly $1 billion endowment (“Poverty Palace”), massive surpluses, and the use of direct mail campaigns mainly targeting elderly donors.
• Alleged Corruption and Fraud:
  • Accusations of running a money-grab scheme and suggestions that these are grounds for federal and state investigation for wire/mail fraud.
  • Colvett emphasizes the importance of conservatives using their legal and governmental powers to investigate and, if necessary, prosecute organizations like the SPLC.
• Notable Quote:
  • Blake Neff reading from Charlie Kirk’s "Right Wing Revolution" (11:15):
    “For decades, the Southern Poverty Law Center has collected revenues well in excess of its spending…”

4. SPLC’s Influence on Media, Tech, and Real-World Violence (17:13 - 24:48)

• Direct Ties to Targeted Violence:
  • Drew connections between SPLC hate lists and acts of violence such as the Family Research Council shooter (Floyd Lee Corkins) and Steve Scalise shooter.
  • Pointed out the timing of Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA’s appearance on “hate watch” lists relative to violent incidents.
• Spread and Legitimization by Major Media:
  • Cites how outlets like The New York Times and Reuters routinely quote SPLC, helping shape public perceptions with little scrutiny.
  • The SPLC’s labeling power directly impacts the reputations and safety of conservative, Christian, and family-oriented organizations.

5. Internal SPLC Scandals and Lack of Accountability (20:58 - 24:48)

• Leadership Scandals:
  • Former founder Morris Dees was forced out in 2019 amidst allegations of sexism and racism.
  • Investigation by Tina Tchen (Michelle Obama’s former chief of staff) was never made public, further raising transparency concerns.

6. SPLC’s Political and Cultural Bias (24:48 - 25:52)

• Inconsistent Labeling and Omission:
  • The SPLC’s reluctance to criticize far-left or violent groups (e.g., Antifa, Hamas) is contrasted with their aggressive pursuit of right-wing and Christian groups.
• Call to Action:
  • Posobiec and guests call for an end to federal and corporate relationships with SPLC, pushing for their removal from programs like Amazon Smile.

In Memoriam: Charlie Kirk (28:23 - 47:49)

1. Frank Turek’s Eyewitness Account (28:23 - 37:38)

• Personal Testimony:
  • Frank Turek shares the detailed, harrowing experience of being with Charlie Kirk at the time of his assassination and the aftermath as they rushed him to the hospital.
  • Emphasizes Charlie’s humility, passion for mentorship, and unflagging dedication to his cause.
  • Turek debunks online conspiracy rumors about his involvement, clarifying his role and the events.
• Notable, Poignant Moment:
  • Frank Turek (34:03):
    “I kind of forced my way into the back of the SUV. The security team was on him immediately… We did everything we could to save him, but he wasn’t looking at me. He was looking right past me into eternity. He was already with Jesus, Jack.”

2. Charlie's Legacy and Spiritual Impact (39:46 - 47:15)

• National Mourning & Global Ripple Effect:
  • The memorial service broadcast, which openly discussed Christian faith and Kirk’s influence, is credited for leading individuals worldwide to Christianity.
  • Turek and Posobiec reflect on America’s temporality and the eternal weight of faith, contrasting Christian and Marxist worldviews.
• Theological Insights:
  • Explores the concept of evil as evidence of God’s existence, referencing Kirk’s text exchange with James Lindsay about evidence for Satan and thus God (43:03).
  • Discussed C.S. Lewis-type apologetics: “There would be no such thing as evil unless there was good… Goodness is God’s nature.” (43:25, Frank Turek)
  • Dante’s Inferno and Scriptural meditations on the afterlife (45:48).
• Emotional Climax:
  • Jack Posobiec describes the emptiness left behind, gazing at Charlie’s empty chair, encapsulating the grief and love borne by all who knew him (47:03).

3. Where to Find Frank Turek’s Full Account

• Listeners are directed to Turek’s YouTube channel, “Cross Examined,” for in-depth testimony:
  • “The Greatness of Charlie Kirk: An Eyewitness Account of His Life and Martyrdom.” (30:04, 47:30)

Selected Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On ADL/SPLC Tactics:
  “Do you want to defame people? Call yourself the Anti Defamation League.”
  — Andrew Colvett, 03:07

• On Money & Corruption:
  “Their lavish headquarters is nicknamed the Poverty Palace. But even other more principled liberals find the SPLC completely loathsome.”
  — Blake Neff, quoting Kirk’s book, 11:15

• On Conservative Power:
  “We on the right need to learn how to exert and use the power that we have.”
  — Andrew Colvett, 13:55

• On the SPLC’s Influence:
  “They were on the rise, to entrench themselves as this supposedly neutral arbiter of what a hate group is, when they’re not.”
  — Blake Neff, 24:40

• On Charlie Kirk’s Faith Legacy:
  “He was always looking to improve himself… The only thing that surpassed Charlie’s intellect was his humility.”
  — Frank Turek, 31:20

• On Theodicy & Evil:
  “If Satan, then God… Evil does not disprove God. Evil actually shows God does exist. Because there’d be no such thing as evil unless there was good, and there’d be no such thing as good unless God existed.”
  — Frank Turek, 43:03 – 43:25

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Discussion on ADL, SPLC, and Hate Group Definitions: (02:17 – 06:38)
• Deep Dive into SPLC’s Finances and Alleged Fraud: (09:54 – 15:29)
• Connections between SPLC Lists and Real-World Violence: (17:13 – 24:48)
• Frank Turek’s Eyewitness Account: (28:23 – 37:38)
• Reflections on Faith, Eternity, and Charlie’s Impact: (39:46 – 47:15)

Tone and Language

The episode blends polemical political commentary with raw, heartfelt mourning and spiritual reflection. Speakers use energetic, sometimes combative language when discussing the SPLC/ADL, but shift to vulnerable and reverent tones in remembering Charlie Kirk. The discussion is unscripted, direct, and at times intentionally provocative.

Conclusion

This episode is both a call to arms—demanding scrutiny of establishment “anti-hate” groups like the SPLC and ADL—and a poignant memorial to a fallen friend and movement leader, Charlie Kirk. Jack Posobiec and guests urge both government action against alleged nonprofit corruption and a steadfast commitment to Christian values in the face of adversity, closing with a sense of communal loss and determination.

For full firsthand details on Charlie Kirk’s last moments and the aftermath, listeners are encouraged to watch Frank Turek’s “The Greatness of Charlie Kirk: An Eyewitness Account of His Life and Martyrdom” on the Cross Examined YouTube channel.