Human Events with Jack Posobiec, September 12th, 2025

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Podcast Summary: Human Events with Jack Posobiec – September 12, 2025

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: iHeartPodcasts
Episode: Human Events with Jack Posobiec – Special Charlie Kirk Memorial
Date: September 12, 2025

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Episode Overview

This deeply personal memorial episode is dedicated to remembering conservative leader, activist, and media figure Charlie Kirk, following his recent and tragic passing. Hosted by an ensemble – Andrew Colvett, Jack Posobiec, Blake Neff, and Tyler Boyer – the show gathers friends, colleagues, and longtime listeners to reflect on Charlie’s legacy. The tone oscillates between grief, tribute, celebration, and a call to continue Charlie's work, highlighting concrete impacts on the conservative movement, national culture, and individual lives.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Charlie Kirk’s Impact and Legacy

• The hosts reflect on Charlie’s unique place in modern conservatism, crediting him with a pivotal role in the youth conservative movement and helping secure the recent presidential victory.
  • “Without Charlie Kirk, we would not have President Trump and Vice President Vance ... We would definitely not have him.” – Andrew (03:40)
• His dedication to individual connection stands out, with anecdotes from colleagues and callers attesting to his personal warmth and attention.
  • “He’s been genuinely interested in individuals ... his touch, his warm touch on this ... is never going to be forgotten.” – Tyler (04:46)

2. Grieving as a Community

• The show explores the waves of grief and loss, likening it to military loss and quoting favorite poetry (“For the Fallen” by Lawrence Binyon).
  • “They shall not grow old as we that are left grow old ... At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them.” – Blake (09:55)
• Overarching theme: even in disagreement or criticism, Charlie fostered a sense of “coming home” for many, building a legacy of familial relationships and changed lives.
• Vigils and memorials are organically arising not just in America, but around the world—Australia, South Africa, Sweden, Hungary.

3. Faith and Culture as the Bedrock

• The episode repeatedly connects Charlie’s life and mission to a vision of faith being upstream of culture, and culture upstream of politics—echoing and reframing Andrew Breitbart’s maxims.
  • “Politics is downstream from culture. Culture is downstream from faith.” – Jack (20:03)
  • “Faith was what was dictating how our politics would end up. That’s absolutely correct and true ...” – Tyler (19:35)
• Multiple segments, including a prayer and reciting the Lord’s Prayer on air, reinforce Charlie’s message that returning to faith and church outweighs political victories.

4. Influence on Real Lives & Stories from Callers

• Callers share emotional remembrances:
  • Evan: Credits Charlie’s example for emboldening his Christian faith at work and in family. (14:46)
  • Anthony: Recalls a humorous on-air debate about baseball salary caps, illustrating Charlie’s eagerness to genuinely engage with listeners. (27:11)
  • Caleb & Michelle: Testify to Charlie's gift for elevating others and making them feel part of the team, turning personal meetings into opportunities for debate and growth. (35:13)
  • Sarah & Julie: Speak to Charlie’s unmatched optimistic leadership and credit him with personal faith renewal. (42:23, 57:19)
• Touching emails highlight private moments—Charlie comforting a student after a parent’s death, his habit of saying yes to every photo, and his humility in dealing with celebrity.

5. Charlie, the Man Behind the Persona

• Stories about Charlie's quirks—his “Shaq chair” from Staples, his encyclopedic appetite (ordering style at group dinners), and unfamiliarity with memes and modern slang—paint a picture of a driven, sometimes bashful, always authentic man.
  • “He could be talking, like giving a monologue and writing a separate argument to an email.” – Jack (29:11)
• Despite public stature, Charlie protected his private time; his ideal was quiet meals with close friends, devotion to family, and always returning to center on his faith.

6. The Continuing Mission – What Comes Next?

• Panelists and callers agree: Charlie’s legacy is embodied in the Turning Point USA apparatus, the cultural and faith reawakening among young people, and the sense of grassroots belonging he fostered.
  • “He picked the baton up for all three of those men ... and carried the entire conservative movement on his back.” – Tyler (21:59)
• Repeated call for the audience to carry the mission forward with activism rooted in faith—echoing Charlie’s exhortation not to stop with memorials, but to “do not stop there.” (39:17)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• The Final Battle

  • “November 5th ... we restore the promise that the founders gave us ... And we the people, take back America.” – Noah (01:15)

• Poetic Farewell

  • “They shall not grow old as we that are left grow old. ... We will remember them.” – Blake (09:55)
  • “As the stars that shall be bright when we are dust ... To the end they remain.” – Jack (11:38)

• On Faith and Family

  • “What we are fighting is a spiritual battle. And if you're here and you don't believe in God, okay, fine. I'll pray for you. And I hope you find Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, because it will change your life.” – Noah, Tribute Montage (40:40)

• Gratitude for Humility and Impact

  • “Every individual in America that talked to Charlie or would email in or would DM had a voice. And again, that's not most people that do this.” – Tyler (29:33)
  • “He wasn’t fearless. He was courageous. He looked fear right in the eye and he overcame it again and again.” – Andrew (58:12)

• On Cultural Influence

  • “Between Jack and Charlie alone, them dropping something changes the whole direction on Twitter.” – Tyler (30:33)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:15] – Reflections on Election Day, the “Final Battle” rhetoric, and importance of direct action.
• [02:46] – Panel (Andrew, Jack, Blake, Tyler) begins memorializing Charlie; initial wave of emotions.
• [09:55] – Blake recites “For the Fallen”; poetic reflections on heroism and memory.
• [14:46] – First listener (Evan) calls in with a testament to Charlie’s faith-driven leadership.
• [19:33–20:13] – Discussion linking faith, culture, and politics.
• [27:11] – Anthony’s humorous salary cap debate story.
• [35:13–38:03] – Caleb and Michelle share uplifting stories about Charlie’s inclusive, elevating mentorship.
• [39:44] – Noah’s tribute montage, with clips of Charlie on faith, productivity, and purpose.
• [42:23] – Sarah’s emotional call, crediting Charlie with national renewal.
• [51:10–52:58] – Sharing stories about Charlie’s off-stage personality, group dinners, and Thought Crime podcast as “real” Charlie.
• [53:18–56:59] – Lighthearted discussion about memes, “Riz,” and Charlie’s pop culture blind spots.
• [57:19] – Julie’s call about Charlie’s real-world impact, faith, and recharged sense of purpose.
• [58:12] – Andrew’s final tribute on the difference between courage and fearlessness in Charlie’s character.

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The Spirit of the Episode

This episode moves beyond news analysis and steps fully into a space of shared grief and celebration. It retains Charlie Kirk’s style—direct faith talk, appreciation for grassroots activism, candid humor, and refusal to shy from uncomfortable truths—while offering listeners comfort and the challenge to step up in the wake of loss. The panel’s openness, the heartfelt listener calls, and the weaving of personal stories with national movement building make this memorial both intimate and far-reaching.

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Takeaway

For both longtime fans and new listeners, this episode summarizes a movement leader’s enduring impact—measured not in broadcasts, but in changed lives, rekindled faith, and the promise that energized community action will not end with his passing.

"Do not stop there." – Jack, echoing Charlie (39:17)

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Transcript

[Julie]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Noah]

School chapters, more college chapters. And disagreement is not just welcome. It is invited. We want to have those tough conversations. That's what it's all about. Because you're not supposed to be involved in this. You're supposed to just kind of be on the vote for me every four years, give me more political power, and stay out of my business. And what has happened is we are seeing an explosion in citizen participation.

[Andrew]

Follow me. Oh, there is nothing I'll ever need.

[Noah]

Knock on that extra door, go that extra mile, talk to that extra friend. Because throughout voting month and culminating on the 5th of November, I believe it will go down as a day that people remember, as a day that is written about history books, as the final battle. From the golden Escalator on down, from defeating Hillary Clinton, from the nonsense of 2020. From Butler, Pennsylvania. November 5th. It all culminates where we restore the promise that the founders gave us. And they said, hey, if the people want it, the people get it. And we the people, take back America. God bless Arizona, and thank you so much. Every day, the American people demand certain accomplishments and victories. Disagreement is what keeps a movement alive, keeps a movement fun. Here in this country. We are a country of flourishing. We're a country of risk taking. We're a country of building. We will achieve American greatness. And we are just getting started.

[Andrew]

Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. This is Andrew Colvett, Jack Bosobic, Blake Neff, and Tyler Boyer, remembering our friend, the one and only Charlie Kirk, who's on assignment from God, who belongs to history and will have forever be in our hearts. And. Sorry, I just. It's the way this thing works, man. Like, you see somebody you haven't seen yet, you haven't grieved with yet, and it gets the emotions flowing in.

[Jack]

You know, guys that I know who have lost, people in the military, they say it's. It's waves.

[Andrew]

Yeah, it's waves. It feels like.

[Tyler]

It feels like waves.

[Jack]

That's the best way to describe it. And it's just. And it's, you know, certain. Certain phrases, certain people, certain faces, certain memories, like. Like, for me, I didn't expect a Seinfeld clip would just, you know.

[Andrew]

Yeah. And everybody deals with it differently. And Charlie was not much of a crier unless, you know, he literally helped elect the future President and the 4045 and 47 and, you know, just hat tip to everything he just accomplished by sheer will. And I really, truly believe that without Charlie Kirk, we would not have President Trump and Vice President Vance and Vice President Vance. We would definitely not have him. And thank you to President Vance and to Usha, Vice President Vance and Second Lady Usha for just their, just how wonderful they were with Erica yesterday through and through. They came to Salt Lake City and they picked up Erica and they picked up Charlie and all of us and took us on Air Force Two back to Phoenix. And it was a beautiful ceremony, both getting on and getting off. And JD came back and talked with us and he spent most of his time with Erica and just clapped, hugged us all.

[Tyler]

He is genuinely, I want to say this about the vice president. He's been genuinely interested in individuals. And this is the same thing with Charlie. This is the same thing with President Trump. To be very point blank is very interested in individuals. And his touch, his warm touch on this, of making sure that Charlie was honored the way that he deserved to be honored is never going to be forgotten. It's never going to be forgotten by this team. It's never going to be forgotten by the conservative movement, by obviously, the entire Turning Point family. But that is, that is such a testament to our vice president's character because it's just as easy to say, I can't.

[Andrew]

And you got to understand, JD's hurting, too. JD loved Charlie as a brother and as a friend. They talked almost, I really mean this, probably on text, at least almost every day, if not every day. And JD was strong. He understood the moment was probably not his moment to grieve. He's grieving in private and he was there and he was strong. Usha was strong. And, yeah, I just love him for it. And there's a lot to love about jd, but that was a really amazing, really amazing moment and for our members. And by the way, thank you, Jack. This is your hour and you're, you're graciously letting us continue this show.

[Jack]

And I, I wouldn't have this hour if it wasn't for Charlie. So doesn't mean anything. Just, let's just keep going.

[Andrew]

And I appreciate that, brother. And I just a quick programming note. We're going to be sending our [e-mail], we're going to be sending you a phone number to call in and share your thoughts. So if you're one of the members of this show, you know who you are. You were the nearest and dearest to us out there and you believed in this show and you put your money where your mouth is and we adore you for it. And Charlie believed in his members in such an amazing way. And so if you're a member of the Charlie Kirk show, you are about to get an email with a phone number and you can call in and you can share your thoughts and your remembrances of Charlie and what he meant to you. We would love to hear from some of you. We'll try and fit in as many as make sense and how you got.

[Tyler]

To know Charlie, how you discovered Charlie is incredible. Your interactions with Charlie and your interactions with the show, your interactions with Turning Point, please, coming to events, whatever. We want to hear all of it, and we. Please send those thoughts. If you don't call into freedom, Charlie Kirk dot com.

[Jack]

I'll just say that, you know, and we haven't really addressed it here, obviously. We, you know, you know what we do, we see all the information that's coming in about the suspect. We've even got stuff that, that hasn't been put out yet. And we just. There'll be a time for that. And we know there'll be a time for that. There will be justice for Charlie Kirk. But that's. That's not what we're doing right now. That's all I'm saying.

[Tyler]

Can I share one more thing that I saw that was a frequent thing that was really touching? We have, of course, tons of people who've worked for us, tons of people who have worked with us, alongside us, that have helped build Turning Point into what it is today. But so many people, even people who, you know, again, there are people who aren't always. That don't always agree with every single thing that comes out of Turning Point. I think this is really important. But their life was dramatically changed because of Turning Point and they had met their spouses. The one common theme I saw was people reaching out to me, saying, tyler, I've always had this unbelievable respect for Charlie and for Turning Point because it changed my life for the better. I, I found my spouse. I have my kids. Because at Turning Point, I heard so.

[Jack]

Many stories like that.

[Tyler]

And that consistent message that Charlie gave about the family and building your family and everything else reinforced all of that. And so, so many people are like, almost coming back home because they're like, oh, you know, I didn't always agree with Trump or, like, Trump or whatever, and, and, or I didn't like X, Y and Z. And now they're on. They're on the team. And it was because Charlie, they stuck with it and listened. They're like, yeah, actually, you know what? This is the life I want to live. My family is important. My Religion is important. Christ being the center of my life is important, what Charlie said. And so it's been really a beautiful. Actually, honestly, a miraculous thing to watch as these people came back who I haven't heard from for almost 10 years, maybe, that have said, hey, this is how much this has impacted and changed my life. And, you know, and some of. Some of these people saying, I'm sorry I didn't say something before. And that was because of Charlie and what he built.

[Andrew]

Blake.

[Blake]

I just. You know, I keep thinking about. There's a poem that's a favorite of mine. It's from. It's a poem during. It was written during World War I by Lawrence Binion. It's titled for the Fallen, and it was about the men they lost in World War I. I think about just a few lines from it and about Charlie. They went with songs to the battle. They were young, straight of limb, true of eye, steady and aglow. They were staunch to the end against odds uncounted. They fell with their faces to the foe. They shall not grow old as we that are left grow old. Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. And that's how Charlie will always be for us. All of us are going to grow old. All of us are going to die. But Charlie will forever be how he was on September 10th. Brave, strong. Out there. Could be like that forever.

[Jack]

The end. The end of that one is well said.

[Andrew]

Thank you.

[Jack]

There's a couple lines where the next line of this actually. They mingle not with their laughing comrades again. They sit no more at familiar tables of home. They have no lot in our labor of the daytime. They sleep beyond England's foam. And the very last part. As the stars that shall be bright when we are dust moving in marches upon the heavenly plain as the stars that are starry in the time of our darkness to the end. To the end they remain.

[Andrew]

So much of this in retrospect, and you don't have eyes to fully appreciate it in the moment, but where you realize that you were encountering greatness. And the moment you get the news, you realize that you were around somebody that was so. So incredible. And in kind of in a weird way, like, in retrospect, it all kind of makes sense that we were. We only get him for such a short time.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Because he was too great for this world in so many ways. And he was a shooting star. He was a mythological creature. You know, you hear these pictures, hear these images of descriptions of George Washington and how he's this huge man and especially for his time. Well, Charlie, we always joked he was a Nephilim. The only chair that we could get. I. This is actually a really funny story. When we first started getting Charlie the chairs for his studio, it was like, no, not. That was like. It was like mattress shopping. It was like, nope, not that one. Not that one.

[Tyler]

Literally, this chair.

[Andrew]

This is a shack chair.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

From. It's a Shaquille o'. Neal.

[Tyler]

It's a fairly inexpensive chair.

[Andrew]

Yes.

[Tyler]

Just from, like, Staples.

[Andrew]

Huge people like Shaquille o' Neal and.

[Tyler]

From Staples.

[Andrew]

Yes. And from Staples. Locally, like, oh, this is the one. And he's worn it out. It's got, like, a little, like, you know, the very cheap, you know, veneer on it or whatever. I don't even know what you call it. Like, it's definitely not leather. It's like the vinyl. Vinyl.

[Tyler]

Vinyl.

[Andrew]

Vinyl. Yeah. And he wore it out, and he loved that big chair. And I have to say, like, when I've sat in it in the past, like, you've sat in it. It's like, you're like, okay, I see what he was kind of. You know, it's a good chair, but, like, a hug. But he was larger than life, and we all saw it, and we all. You know, he was younger than us. Everybody at this table, he was younger than us. And so we just. You know, you assume that you're gonna probably go before him, and. But in retrospect, like, he was so larger than life, and he packed so much into every single day that it's pretty impossible to. It's impossible to. To fully grasp just how much life he lived and how much he accomplished in 31 far too short years. But we do have our first caller. Do we want to. You guys ready for that? His name is Evan. Evan, the floor is yours.

[Caller]

Gentlemen, it's an honor to just be on and talk about Charlie for a sec. I'll keep this quick. Charlie was a friend. I consider him a dear friend. Even though I never, ever met him. I've listened to him for a very, very long time. I run and operate a lawn landscaping business and also host a podcast. And what Charlie really taught me was he was always continually learning, and even with my show that it helps me. You got to know things. You got to know about equipment and things like that, and Charlie was always learning. He's always listening to books and things like that, and his boldness to stand on the word of God and Jesus is what I'VE tried to do with my business and in life and even my family, too. I have a two and a half year old son and a kid on the way. And when I heard the news just a couple days ago, I was on the moor, I stopped and I cried. It was just. It's devastating. But we know that God's gonna work this together for good. And through his tragic death, guys, more people are gonna know about Jesus. And that's the one thing that we have to remember through this. And it's just I've never been. He had considered him a friend, even though I just never knew him. And I want you guys to hold on to God's word because that's what Charlie would want for us to do is stand on God's word and hold on to it right now. Not let the enemy just blind us from the mission that he had set. God, appreciate all that you do. And just Charlie, just thank you and thank. Thank you, Lord, for just putting him on this Earth for 31 years.

[Andrew]

Well said, Evan. And I think I just want to echo what you're saying. I've gotten so many notes and I've seen so many comments on social media of people saying their kids are coming back to church because of Charlie and because of this, what's happened that people are coming back to the Lord. And I just. Jack, it is your hour, but I'm just going to say a quick prayer. I'm going to say a quick prayer for that. Heavenly Father, we ask that you would bless Charlie's legacy right now in this moment, across the country and across the world as we mourn. His passing is far too early and too soon. We ask, Holy Spirit, that you would enter the hearts of millions of people across this planet, across our nation, and that you would bring people to faith in you, Jesus. Saving faith in you. He loved you. And I know that he is getting his reward in heaven right now. And that's what he wanted in the beautiful eulogy that Blake helped write, that all he wanted was thriving young people that went back, found their faith in you and thriving young families that made this country strong and great so that more could follow that same path. And I know, Lord God, that getting married and having a family and knowing you were his greatest accomplishments on top of everything else he did. And so, Jesus, we just bless this country and everybody that loved Charlie or that heard about him, that only heard about him even from his death, Lord, that you would make so many new believers, meet so many new members of your heavenly kingdom right now and in the days and weeks to come, Lord Jesus, we ask in your precious name. Amen.

[Tyler]

Amen.

[Jack]

If you guys want, we could follow that up. Tyler, I know you just put the hat back on, but we could all say together, Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done.

[Andrew]

On earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses as we.

[Jack]

Forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but.

[Andrew]

Deliver us from the evil.

[Jack]

Amen.

[Andrew]

Amen.

[Jack]

Charlie would have wanted people going back to church more than anything. More than anything. That. More than politics or campaigns or whatever the next election was, or whatever the next turning point was, the core.

[Tyler]

The core belief was.

[Jack]

That was it.

[Tyler]

He was. He was a true believer in what Andrew Breitbart said. And we talked about this all the time. I actually remember visiting. We were visiting a donor, and we stood in the spot where Andrew Breitbart passed, which is a kind of a.

[Andrew]

I think in la.

[Jack]

You've been there, right?

[Tyler]

Yeah, it's. It's really interesting. Just right outside a restaurant.

[Andrew]

Well, it's in. It's in Brentwood, at least. I don't know.

[Tyler]

Yeah, it's. It's. It's kind of an interesting place. But we. He had always had kind of this infatuation with the concept, and we actually leaned into it, talking about culture wars and all of that. But that culture is what dictates your politics. So. And culture is dependent upon your faith. There's nothing.

[Andrew]

The bedrock, there's the absolute starting.

[Tyler]

There's nothing that. That impacts that. So the politics that is really downstream from culture is really. And this is like, kind of like, I would say Andrew Breitbart next level, which was Charlie Kirk, is that. That's why I believe Charlie was so adamant about faith being so important, is that he was a true believer in that statement. But that faith was what was dictating how our politics would end up, which is absolutely correct and true. And so go. There's nothing that could be more important right now.

[Jack]

What you can think is tie it up and say politics is downstream from culture. Culture. Culture is downstream from faith.

[Tyler]

That's right.

[Andrew]

And.

[Tyler]

And Charlie led by example in embracing faith, embracing the Christlike attributes that are necessary to impact culture in the positive way that needed to happen. And I think that's why you're seeing that turn of so many young people that were influenced by this, maybe starting with politics, but walking themselves backwards and going oh, my gosh. Well, my politics is dictated by my faith.

[Andrew]

And.

[Tyler]

And that's a great legacy. That is the most important legacy, which Charlie himself said, which is. That's all. That's all he cared about, was that people would know that.

[Andrew]

Well, it was interesting. I saw a clip yesterday from Larry o', Connor, who worked for Breitbart, Andrew Breitbart, and they were talking about. He was talking about this memory at cpac. They were doing an Andrew Breitbart panel. And Larry put it together. He was kind of. He's like, well, all of us worked directly with Andrew. You never knew him. He's like. And Charlie says, I can't wait to be on this panel. You know, this is so amazing. And so he's like, I'll call you and tell you about it. Like, my thoughts. And he's like, okay, we probably should talk, because the rest of us knew Andrew. And Charlie said that I was so inspired by Andrew Breitbart that I created Turning Point. And Larry realized that. He started Turning Point in 2012, the year that it happened, and he realized that. That. That Charlie, in many ways, is the blossom of the seed planted by the death of Andrew Breitbart. And so when you think about how that can keep going forward, and I know Charlie would want that, that. That. That we would have many such stories like that, not just Turning Point or whatever.

[Tyler]

And it's really an interesting point to make for those that study modern conservatism. There aren't very many people. I mean, let's. If you. If you had to pick the top three, it would probably be, you know, and again, we're setting Charlie aside, but Andrew Breitbart, Donald Trump, and the third being Rush Limbaugh. And when you look at that and you start to go, wait, what's the connection between all three of those men? It's really. You look at that, you go, charlie Kirk. And Charlie was a. Again, enigma. He was. He had a personality that was unlike anything else, but he was the continuation. He picked the baton up for all three of those men in different ways and carried the entire conservative movement on his back and created something, again, the culmination of that. What is the representation of Charlie? And people are like, well, what can we do to keep Charlie? You have it. It's Turning Point usa. It's Turning Point, the entire ecosystem. He did it.

[Andrew]

He was. He was able to do all the things I.

[Jack]

All of the things I promised we would. We would mention this. And before we go to the next caller, I saw some people saying that, you know, they thought I was trying to brush it off. I just. I wanted to give the vigils a moment, because the. I know one, because I knew we were up on a clock before. It's unbelievable. And they are worldwide. South Africa. I've seen Australia. Australia. Huge one in Australia. I got a video from Sydney this morning. Someone sent me Sweden.

[Tyler]

Sweden.

[Jack]

All across Europe.

[Tyler]

I just got one from Hungarians.

[Jack]

And then all across the country, and. And there's, like. There's, like, little ones popping up, you know, like, just, hey, this is the one in our town. If you want to come. Just come on. Someone said Westchester, Pennsylvania. And, you know, I hear there's. I hear there's going to be a. I think I hear this. They're trying to put together one. Not like an official one, but like at the. At the White House, at Lafayette Square Park. There's just some local people trying to get a permit. And. And it's that spirit of individuals becoming activated and coming together around one core concept, principle value. That's what Charlie Kirk stood for. That's what he was all about. He lived his entire life trying to inspire a turning point in this country, and he's done it.

[Andrew]

I take so much solace in a couple of things. He got to see young men and the youth vote win a president. Yes. He got to see it, and he got to do it. And he got to see. He got to see the decline in church start going back up. He got to see that it bounced. And he got to see just. Just before that NBC poll that said that young men want to get married and have babies as their top priorities. And I can't tell you how much that means to me that he got to see the fruit of his work, because so many people don't. They don't get to see what they've accomplished. And he actually got to see it. And all of you that came out to the campus events, all of you that came out to our Turning Point events, all of you that subscribed to the show, that gave him, like, one of the biggest shows and reaches and platforms in the entire country, day in and day out, we had millions of people listening to Charlie every day. Every day. Every day. We tried our best to estimate it and the way of modern analytics, with fast channels versus radio versus podcasts, and then you take clips. It was basically impossible to measure. But even just in the fall, going up to the election, 15 billion views of Charlie Kirk content just in, just ahead of the election. And every day, there was between 2 and 3 million people that tuned into this show to Charlie, the Charlie Kirk show, or listen to the podcast or. And that's just the live show. That's not even counting clips. So that was podcast radio. And it was truly, truly a feat for anybody. But the fact that he was able, like we said, Tyler, to be like a Rush Limbaugh, to be like an Andrew Human, that took. And by the way. And I want to give a shout out to all of his assistant staff and his chief of staff, Mikey, who made his day today possible. They were really amazing. We're gonna get to another caller, and this one is Anthony. Anthony, the floor is yours, my friend. Tell us about Charlie.

[Caller]

And thanks, Andrew. Well, first, my condolences to you and everybody. So Charlie and I, I've been listening to the show since it probably started, and I've been a member for a while and everything. And then. But the one time that it stood out to me, and this might have been the funniest disagreement, was probably at the end of July, early August. It was the weekend before you had to go on Fox and Friends. And he put out the question to everybody in the first hour, does baseball need a salary cap? And he knows that I work in the industry and it's on the college side of athletics. And we talked about the political question I sent into him. And then he goes, all right, give me your. I need to know. You're the professional. I go, I already emailed you my answer in the first hour. He goes, I know. I'm not letting you go until you tell me. Said, well, I believe I'm on the fence. And he literally starts laughing and goes, you can't be on the fence about this. You have to be on my side. And I'm like. And then I'm, like, literally sitting there, and I'm like, he's yelling at me. He's yelling because the guy in the industry won't side with him. And I'll be honest. I always wanted a salary cap until I did more research. And then he's like, well, you have to. In Blake, you can relate to this. You got to find me that research and Senate. So I said, all right, I will look for it. I sent it to him next Saturday morning when he's live on Aaron Fox the following week. He goes, I got your emails. I haven't read them yet. But he goes, but it was the funniest to see his facial expression just.

[Andrew]

Light up because he's like, anthony, I just want. You're reminding me of A very unique detail of Charlie Kirk that unless you emailed in the show, you didn't know he would argue with emails and he would get into these during the show. During the show. He's sitting there hosting the show, going, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Press send. And then he'd be like, you know, they didn't keep the show going, but he would. He was arguing with people as we went.

[Jack]

He could be talking, like giving a monologue and writing a separate argument to an email.

[Tyler]

Well, we would all be debating too. So he would. Your emails that you would, you would make. He would drop into the chat and it would be like rolling a grenade into the chat.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Blake]

Or sometimes, you know, he'd be like.

[Andrew]

What do we think?

[Blake]

And he'd be like, oh, this person just agrees with me.

[Tyler]

And we, and we would take sides with all of you. So like there would. We would have all of that and, and, and, and truly. And this is the one grassroots part because one of our, Our culture point that we have at Turning Point is grassroots humility. And this is the really interesting part. And again, Andrew deserves a ton of credit for this because they framed the entire show, the Charlie Kirk show here around your feedback, your commentary, your conversations. Individual. Every individual in America that talked to Charlie or would email in or would DM had a voice. And again, that's not most people that do this. And it helped with the work because it helped frame Charlie's opinions about things. It helped frame from a grassroots perspective how we think about things at Turning Point. And we think about issues. Issues that would be covered on Charlie's show every single day that everybody listened to. Everybody at the White House would listen to you. And I mean, I. Twitter would change because we, the three, like between Jack and Charlie alone, them dropping something changes the whole direction on Twitter anyways.

[Andrew]

And then. Benny. Yeah, Benny. Yeah. Let's throw this up. I just want to. I don't know all the details about this, but there is a prayer vigil planned in Washington D.C. on Sunday, September 14th. So this Sunday at 6pm location to be announced soon.

[Jack]

I think I may have just accidentally said it.

[Andrew]

Oh, whoops. Well, I, if you did, I, you know, some, some.

[Jack]

I, I wasn't given the full confirmation.

[Andrew]

On that Sunday, who knows. But it'll be at 6pm in Washington D.C. and I think it's a beautiful way to honor Charlie. Charlie candidly didn't love Washington D.C. didn't love going to Washington D.C. i mean, he was the imperial capital, Imperial Capitol. He would stomach it because he loved his country and he would go there. And. And so, I mean, I think it's a fitting tribute.

[Jack]

Can I just say if, if you are at Washington, D.C. or if you're in any other blue area and you're going to one of these vigils and protesters come up or something like that, just, I'm not going to say, you know, don't get into it, but just. We're not there for that.

[Tyler]

We're just.

[Jack]

We're really not there for that.

[Andrew]

Charlie. Charlie. What? His message was peace. I mean, yeah, Charlie, he was a master swordsman, but his sword was the word, the logos, and debating. And he didn't believe in peace per se. He believed in verbal combat and he believed in intellectual and ideological combat. And he believed that we were in a war of ideas and a spiritual battle. So I'm not here to give you some rosy prescription about the state of the world. We're in a battle not against flesh and blood, but against blood powers and principalities and obviously close. Yeah.

[Jack]

Understanding of the state of the world a couple years ago.

[Andrew]

Yeah. But like Charlie ultimately believed in the promise of America and the fact that our institutions will hold. I guess Speaker Johnson will be at that one, along with Anna Paulina Luna. And, you know, more details coming about.

[Tyler]

Which is very fitting because Anna is, you know, by her own admission, is our. Is the turning point. Congresswoman. She, you know, tell this fun story again. I know some people have heard it, but Anna was thinking about going to med school and she had engaged with us online. We had. I found her, we saw that she was saying some smartthings on Instagram and we actually reached out to her, invited her to Young Women's Leadership Summit. And she came and she was like, hey, I'm applying to med school. And she was again, an Air Force veteran, everything else. And that one experience of her being there at Young Women's Leadership Summit, which, by the way, that was Young Women's Leadership Summit was the brainchild of Charlie. We started that many, many years ago. He knew that was important, wanted to do that. But it culminated, it started at a tiny little thing in Illinois and then we moved to the airport. We were at the airport, you know, kind of a three star hotel at.

[Andrew]

The Hyatt in dfw.

[Tyler]

At dfw. Tidy. It was like inside. It's like literally inside the airport. So you don't even, I remember you don't even leave the airport when you show up. And it grew and grew and grew. But Anna showed up there and we convinced her to not go to medical school, to quit basically move to Arizona and start touring and learning how the. The ropes of. Of how to debate on campus. And to do that, that was like the Charlie Kirk model.

[Andrew]

By the way, APL she is. She did it so fierce. In Charlie's defense, since all this, I've been texting with her.

[Tyler]

She has been the person.

[Andrew]

She's so great and I just love it. Anyway, she's part of the legacy too.

[Tyler]

She left. She left here wanting to run for Congress, wanting to change the country. She's. She's doing just that. And she's a tremendous friend and ally and she's been incredible for the last few days here.

[Andrew]

We're going to take another caller. Caleb, you are on. Caleb and Michelle, how are you, my friends.

[Caleb]

My friend Andrew? Well, you know how we are, but it's such a privilege and honor to that Charlie called me his friend and you know, even though we were occasional acquaintances and I loved how he, every time we would meet, he would treat us like family, you know, and I have this. What I want to talk about is maybe just a couple stories about how he elevated those around him. And I know it's been said before that that was the kind of person he was. He wanted everyone to be their best. And. But, you know, we, and Michelle's already emailed you guys the story of how we first met in 2020. And you know, we. He introduced us to people. I think you were there, Andrew. We come back and says, these are my 2020 friends because we met, you know, met him in 2020 just after the election at the headquarters. And what was so cool is that every time afterwards we would go to an event that Charlie was speaking at and he did this like at least twice to me. He's like, oh, hey, Caleb. Out in the crowd, I'm just sitting out in the crowd, he says, oh, there's Caleb and Michelle. I should tell you the story about how we met in Arizona. And he remembered you when he saw you again and welcomed you in. And Michelle and I just, we're so happy that, you know, three weeks ago he was in Myrtle beach and, and you know, we're in North Carolina now and like, we could drive, we could go to that. And we, you know, and so we went to see him.

[Andrew]

I saw you there, Charlie there, Caleb.

[Caller]

Yep, saw you there.

[Caleb]

And it was so cool because Charlie invited us backstage or, you know, Mikey did, and he brought us into the green room and there's Alex McFarland and Charlie introduces us, you know, Caleb, Michelle, you know, my, my super fans. These are guys are Charlie Kirk show super fans. And, and he, he said, you know, Charlie, Charlie said to. Said, you know, Caleb just sends me the, you know, the best feedback. I love reading his emails. You know, he always talked about how he loved Michelle's emails. She's always so encouraging to him. And, and then he said, so, Caleb, what's on your mind? He just puts me on the spot, you know, like, you know, I'm not the guest speaker or anything. What's in your mind?

[Caller]

I throw out a couple ideas and.

[Caleb]

He says, you know, I'll let you choose. You know, here's a couple ideas. What do you want to talk about? And he's like, oh, that's a great topic. Hey, Alex, you and Caleb, you guys should debate this topic. And then he just put this on the spot and he facilitated, you know, he kind of moderated. He jumps in on my side, you know, gives a good point here from the Bible because it was a, it was a, you know, a biblical discussion.

[Andrew]

And by the way, Caleb, I want to give you credit because Charlie threw it to you to make a point. Remember backstage with McFarlane and you crushed it, man, you crushed it. And I remember looking at. I walked away with Charlie and I said, caleb did well. And he goes, oh, yeah, he's been paying attention. I want to throw up. Another image here. This is from some friends here. A memorial rally tribute ride in Lynchfield park here in Arizona. Arrive at 5pm Ride at 5:30. And speakers to be announced. Candlelight vigil at 7:30. This is just, this is what's happening. People want a way to help. And I think it's incredible that so much of this is happening so organically. Nobody's planning this. No. Nobody's like, there's no, like, organization, by the way, doing like the DC one. It's just like people in D.C. that love Charlie.

[Jack]

Charlie would have loved this.

[Andrew]

And it's just hat. People are grabbing the bull by the horns and they're doing this because they loved him.

[Jack]

But, But Charlie would also say, he'd say, okay, but don't stop there. Of course he would say, don't stop there. Do not stop there. Thank you. But do not stop there.

[Andrew]

Speaking of which, this is like, I had my team coming to me going, like, how can I help? Like, can I make a montage? Can I make a tribute video? And I'm like, sure, I haven't seen this one either. Let's go ahead and play. This is from Noah on our team. And I haven't seen it, so. 4, 19. Thank you, Noah.

[Noah]

Why? Your faith is the most important thing. You are commanded to go do something productive with your life. You are not commanded to go sit idly by, buy and just receive. You are commanded to go give and to produce and to risk, to then go sow into other people. That is a biblical idea that has made the world a profoundly better place. We must put God first in everything that we do. We are nothing here, but just for a short instant, short little glimpse. We act not out of outcome, but we act out of obedience.

[Andrew]

Everybody.

[Noah]

This was not earned. You guys were a vessel.

[Jack]

We were a vessel.

[Noah]

Psalm 107. 1.

[Tyler]

Oh, give thanks to the Lord, for.

[Noah]

He is good, for his steadfast love endures forever.

[Andrew]

I have to say this without getting.

[Julie]

Emotional, but I'm very proud of my husband.

[Andrew]

You are so intentional with your faith, and you are so intentional with just.

[Julie]

How you are as a father and a husband.

[Noah]

Becoming a father has made me, first of all, understand that what I'm fighting for is beyond even yourself. We do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities and darkness and spirits. Because at its core, what we are fighting is a spiritual battle. And if you're here and you don't believe in God, okay, fine. I'll pray for you. And I hope you find Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, because it will change your life.

[Andrew]

How do you want to be remembered? I want to be.

[Noah]

I want to be remembered for. For courage, for my faith.

[Andrew]

That would be the most important thing. Most important thing is my faith in my life. Wow. Good job, Noah.

[Tyler]

Great job, Noah.

[Jack]

That's great.

[Andrew]

Noah's pretty new to the team. And you captured it, brother. We got a note here from a John. He said, charlie sat down with me after my dad died. He says, hey, thought crime crew. I look back fondly on the time I spent with Charlie. From my time as a student at GCU to working for NFP and then chase the vote. Charlie inspired me and was my hero. I specifically remember when Charlie came to GCU in 2022, he was informed that my dad had died. He personally spent time with me backstage before his event, and that has stuck with me forever. Charlie was an incredible man and made me the man I am today. Sending love and prayers, John.

[Tyler]

Now he's. Now he's working for President Trump in D.C.

[Andrew]

And we have Sarah. Sarah, you're on with the crew. What's on your mind?

[Julie]

Hi. I am holding back tears. It's been a rough couple of Days, as I'm sure you all know. I just wanted to say to all the people listening and all of you folks who are continuing this movement, thank you, especially to Charlie. I really believe he has been the turning point of our nation for, I guess, what those words are worth. And I'm grateful to him. I'm grateful to his words. I'm grateful to how he held himself and was able to hold conversations with people. And I do think that in this tragedy, I'm hoping that it really is the turning point of our nation and that we can move forward as a nation in a way that Charlie would.

[Caller]

Be super proud of.

[Andrew]

Beautiful, Sarah. Well said. Thank you. And I think we're all praying that the reach and the impact that Charlie has, I don't think any of us have any idea just how big it is. And that's what I'm realizing. I feel like Tyler, you and me, specifically, and kind of what we had to do the last couple days, I think we're a little insulated from it, and I'm. I feel like I'm just starting to see it.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Of what I've been kind of ignoring and the calls I haven't been taking and the texts I haven't been responding to. But that's probably just the tip of the iceberg of how huge his impact is.

[Tyler]

I don't think we have any idea. I, Like, I woke up this morning realizing that, yeah, just because of the people, like, the layers of people talking to people who talk to people who talk to people who are kind of coming back. And people have been so good to all of our team. Like, you know, people were worried about the safety of our team. And so, you know, Phoenix PD and Mesa PD have been incredible. I know Scottsdale PD and everyone else. There's been so many people impacted by this, by the way, aren't even saying anything.

[Andrew]

And when we. We landed in Phoenix yesterday, there was a huge crowd, Hundreds, like, gathered outside of the airport. And as we drove away in the procession, there was people lining the streets, like, American flags and MAGA hats, probably half of them that Charlie threw to them. And when we got to our final destination, again, there was a huge crowd gathered, waiting for us and for him. And it was really, really amazing. And it was just kind of a little insight. And I'd. Blake, I joke with you, because we couldn't take him anywhere in life. We couldn't take him anywhere. Like, he would get absolutely mobbed. Can I get a selfie? Can I get a selfie? I mean, it didn't matter if you were in Seoul.

[Blake]

It was unbelievable. Yeah, just in Seoul, in Japan. Just the number of people, or, you know, even we realized it when we went to Cambridge and Oxford last spring. The number of people who would recognize him all over the place.

[Andrew]

Yeah. And I took him to a, like, a very, very private place in California. And I was like, don't worry, we'll be, we'll be left alone because we had business to attend. We had a pretty important, like, discussion we were having. We needed to work out some details and some planning. And I was like, don't worry, we'll be fine. And it was like, no, it was not. It was like, people would come. Candidly, they were a bit rude, But I looked at him and because, you know, we're obviously having a private discussion. And they were like, can I. Oh, my gosh, can we get a selfie? And as he was driving away after, I mean, there was, like, very private place. There was still about, I would guesstimate, about 30 people in the course, about 40 minutes. Like. And we were trying to hide, and. And then as he's driving away, these two kids were like, rode their bikes after him. And they were 14, 14, 15 years old. They're like, is that Charlie Kirk? I was like, go get a selfie before he leaves. And I was like. I was like, charlie, you know, and Mikey was in the car with him as they were driving away. And of course, he's like, I, I, I got him to stop. And he was. And I asked him in the middle of it, I said, are you okay with this? He's like, honestly, it's just, I've accepted it. This is life. And I just, I want, like, I know that I can make somebody's day by doing it. It's fine.

[Blake]

You know, always, always say yes to every photo.

[Jack]

The one funny.

[Andrew]

Yes, he would always say that. Always say yes to every photo. Even if he was in the biggest hurry.

[Jack]

The one funny moment that I have that's like, that was the opposite of that with Charlie. And I don't know why this memory sticks with me, but it was, it was during that whole time when he lost his voice, and we were trying to get his voice back. So it was like, me, Charlie, and Mikey, and we were just. Because the way the travel route, we were just driving through, like, Central Florida, where it gets kind of rural, and we had this idea to get him, like, a humidifier with, like, medicated humidifier, but we couldn't figure out where to get one. And Charlie wanted a specific One. And then we were just driving down the street, and Charlie goes, well, there's Walgreens.

[Andrew]

Let's just.

[Jack]

Let's just go to the Walgreens. And you know how he is when he. Like when he wants something, and he wants something specific. So we're like, are you coming in? And we just. We just went to Walgreens, and we're just, like, walking around, and it was just so surreal because, like, nobody came up for, like, the one time among all these times where it was just, like, the most normal, simple. And of course, we couldn't find the one he wanted, and we had to get very Seinfeld, you know, kind of thing. And then we just go check out. And it's like, in the middle of all this craziness, it's just a random trip to Walgreens trying to find something for my buddy because his throat hurts.

[Andrew]

You know, it's funny, actually now, thinking of. Thinking about that you inspired this. I remember when he was in Seoul just like a week ago, two weeks ago, whatever it was. And he. He went out and explored the city. He got up early and explored the city. And I remember going alone. Are you like. And he was like, yes, alone. Lol. Like, it's safe here. Like, it's clean. Like, that actually meant a lot to him. And I'm so glad now that he got to do this thing that he hadn't been able to do in so long and just go explore a city by himself.

[Tyler]

He hadn't been by himself for so long.

[Andrew]

He hadn't, like. And he loved it. He kept sending us pictures in our chat and, like, videos. And you were there, right, With. I mean, you weren't. I mean, you did do some exploring with him.

[Blake]

He was on his own. And then later, we were in this old town neighborhood, and he's like, all right, Blake, just tell me about Korea. And I'm just babbling.

[Andrew]

This is the.

[Blake]

This is the palace where they do the Confucian examinations. He loved it. And, of course, it was also a trillion degrees out, so we were all in, you know, nice clothes because we had to go to the thing later. And it was swamp, and I was dying, but it was. It was so much fun.

[Tyler]

That's such a good point, though, Andrew. I mean, the thing that I think most people don't realize, especially in these last years, that Charlie was with us, was that he was never alone. I mean, the weight and pressure of having to be that celebrity, like, that's a lot. It's a lot to do. And that has an impact on most people. And the one thing I think that was really astonishing about Charlie is he didn't change as a person at all.

[Andrew]

He didn't. By the way, he wasn't like the party animal either. Like, so a lot of people get in this role and they. I don't know, you see him at clubs, you see them drinking, you see them partying, or, like, enjoying all this stuff. Charlie would go home at like, the first instant that was socially acceptable for the programming. Like at America Fest, maybe the program didn't get over until 7:30. He would go straight home back to the hotel as soon as he could after meeting with donors or supporters. Yeah, he would do like. He would do a circuit of like four stops, five stops, meet with donors, and then he goes straight back to be with Erica like, immediately.

[Tyler]

And he. His personality never changed. His. No, his demeanor never, never changed. I mean, his busyness level was never different. He was always busy in different ways throughout his career, throughout the time that. As he grew. But the thing that was always really difficult, that I was always really worried about him, was that you're never having that reprieve from the public eye or be able to go out and just do normal things. And the one thing I really appreciate about Erica and you guys actually, specifically that are here with Andrew and Blake because you guys spent a lot. When he did have alone time, it was with you. And so it was like the. That was as alone as he got with Mikey. And he. He got to do some normal things in that way. Right. Which was like going to the Cubs game.

[Andrew]

He was always just the kid from.

[Tyler]

Chicago and wanting to be. Always was and wanting to eat. The restaurants, like, I'll always remember again, just after we had a long day of doing something extraordinarily exhausting, and I felt like it was like 10pm and you. You guys know this. Like, Charlie loved to just go sit down and break bread and eat.

[Andrew]

By the way, the way he would order was hilarious. He'd sit down, we'd be at a restaurant and be like, you know, four or five of us gathered around, and he would take the menu, go, give us some of this, some of this, some of this, some of this, some of this. Get these out for shareable plates. You guys are gonna love this. You're gonna love this. Trust me. And then he would go, and can I get some hot sauce and olive oil and some salt and pepper, please? Thank you. It was like he would order like a crazy person, like, 15 items. And then. So you're Just like, I guess I'll just eat what Charlie's having. The table would be filled and he'd be like, get some more of this. You're gonna love that. Eat some more of that.

[Tyler]

And then everybody's around, eating, talking, you know, again, kind of decompressing from whatever the crazy was that you're going through, whether it was the travel or the event or the donor meeting or whoever, or whatever you're doing the show, the speech, the, I mean, the rally, the activist event. That was the consistent thing is that you, if you got that opportunity to sit down and then you talk, and then you wasn't just talking about nonsense. It was usually talking about big ideas and having the conversation similar to, like, what we have on Thought Crime. So, like, if you, you as an individual out in the world, and I don't know if you agree with that.

[Andrew]

Crime is probably the closest visual video, videoed version of what it was like to kind of like hang out with Charlie. Yeah. So that was distracting.

[Jack]

Like our, like, we used to joke about it because it was just. It was like our group chat on camera.

[Tyler]

That's right.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

And that's what it was like to sit down with Charlie. Like in a scenario where it's like you're sitting there talking about. There's these things going on, these topics, and like, everybody's going around the horn just like, you know, talking about it, debating it. And, you know, he was like, well, isn't that interesting? Or like, you know, you get into it and ideas would spark and he'd do that smile and he would think.

[Jack]

Favorite. My favorite. I was just sharing with Daisy that my favorite segments in Thought Crime were so uncomfortable. Yes. That was the point was.

[Andrew]

Was.

[Jack]

Was when we would explain memes to him.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Blake]

Just like Charlie's, like, entire knowledge of pop culture froze when he was 17.

[Jack]

Yeah. Like what, what chart? Like, Charlie, you. You don't. You mean you don't know what a bonus hole is?

[Blake]

Charlie, don't use that one.

[Jack]

Or just, just whatever, whatever the Riz.

[Andrew]

What is Riz.

[Jack]

No, no, I'm not going to get into it. I just mean, like, whatever the thing was that was going around, he'd be like, is that good? Yes. No. Okay.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Is this good? Yeah. He just wanted the binary. Like, remember the J.D.

[Jack]

Vance memes?

[Andrew]

Yes. When the J.D.

[Tyler]

Vance memes came out, he like, are.

[Jack]

They making fun of J.D. kind of, sort of.

[Andrew]

But in a good way. Sort of in a good way. Is it good, Charlie? Charlie didn't necessarily speak meme fluently or natively, but he understood the power of them. I have a story I just want to share.

[Caleb]

He loved him.

[Andrew]

He loved. He loved them. I have a story I want to share from Emma on our team. And she said, the night after the election, Charlie wrapped the stream and came out to the bullpen and sat and ate his dinner with the team and told us stories about the behind the scenes work he was doing that nobody knew about for like 2 hours. It was one of my favorite CK memories of all time. He told us how much we can trust JD as vice president and the work he did to get him to that spot. It's really beautiful.

[Tyler]

Charlie had. The thing that makes me the saddest about Charlie's passing and that he was ripped away from us so abrasively is that that man had probably a library of books to write about the things that he knew that have gone to rest with him, things that he saw that are very interesting for politics. Because again, piggybacking on that. You sat down with Charlie, he could tell you about things that nobody knows. I mean, there's things that we know. There's memories that I have that I can tell you and I, when the time's right, at some point, I hope that I can share some of these stories that, that they come out. Andrew has a gazillion of them. Blake, since you've been traveling, Jack knows these things because he lives this lifestyle every day. But.

[Jack]

And that's what I mean.

[Tyler]

I'm sad that we'll never hear.

[Jack]

I don't want like, we, we can't. You know what I mean? I just can't. I can't process because people are like sharing text messages. And I was going back and look at. Because look at some of the ones that I have and I was like, can't share that, can't share that, can't share that.

[Tyler]

Where do you even begin?

[Andrew]

No, I know the Riz. What is funny? Like, we should probably put that up.

[Jack]

That's what I brought up the memes because, like, that's what I talk about.

[Andrew]

Put the Riz one up. This is funny. This is like perfect Charlie. And so I always like to like hound Charlie a little bit. And I. It looks like I was making fun of the cough drop thing because the. By the way, that was the one thing that his Zinn cough drops. Right? The South Park. Yeah, People thought it was Zinn when he was on campus and he would pop the cough drops in. So this. Welcome to the inside chat, guys. This is about as close up as you can get. And. And I. I would be like, actually, Charlie, I love the cough. It makes you look really cool. Like when you're, like, popping. You got this kind of, like, nonchalant look when you're just popping the cough drop. And Daisy says, everyone thinks his cough drops are zins. And I was like, nicotine cough drops. And Charlie, ha ha, ha, ha ha. And I go, charlie's Riz secret. For the record, it's a great Riz crutch. Makes you look nonchalant. Plus the athleisure wear versus the suit. Charlie goes, what is Riz Like a like swagger. And Blake has to go, k Riz muh.

[Jack]

But no question mark, right? What is Riz?

[Andrew]

What is Riz? What is Riz period?

[Jack]

Is it good?

[Andrew]

It's probably because he was hosting a show or something.

[Jack]

That was always his follow up, though. Is it good?

[Tyler]

Is this good?

[Andrew]

We have one more caller I want to get to, and that is Julie. Julie, hopefully you're still with us. The floor is yours.

[Julie]

Yes, can you hear me? Yes, yes, yes, I'm Julie. This is me letting Charlie inspire me to be more joyful, bold, and brave. I'm calling instead of emailing, calling. The scariest thing in the world. So I learned about Charlie after he followed Steve Bannon on rav. I listen to his podcast every morning on my. On my walks. I love thought crimes and the glimpse that gives you into the secret world of men. I was glued to the Rumble late night election coverage. I was blessed to see Carly interact with college students at Normal, Illinois. When I was here this spring, I was so afraid to go because I thought there's no mute button because I'm kind of like banning, like on the cold open.

[Caleb]

Stop, stop, stop.

[Julie]

I can't take anymore. But I didn't need it because Charlie's just fantastic. And then lastly, I'm most thankful for Charlie for introducing me to Jack Hibbs and the Real Life Network and reinvigorating my face. Thank you.

[Andrew]

Beautiful. Well said, Julie. Thank you for calling. Thank you for sharing that, Julie, and sharing that. And your bravery was rewarded. And by the way, I want to say this. People describe Charlie as fearless. He wasn't fearless. He was courageous. He looked fear right in the eye and he overcame it again and again and again. And I can tell you how many moments I spent with Charlie in this behind the scenes and quiet before he walked out on stage, before he had to tackle something or a setback, bad news. And Charlie just looked at the fear right in the eye. And he knew there was no way but through. And he just was so courageous, and he just did it. And he always won. He won, and he kept, like, coming back, and he was stronger and fiercer. And frankly, I think I said this to Erica yesterday. I said, probably for the last two years, I knew Charlie actually was fearless because he'd overcome so much, and that's.

[Tyler]

He was an absolutely fearless individual. I mean, since the day I met him. And I shared a story yesterday, I won't repeat it, but the times where I had the greatest fear of people, and there's lots of people to fear in politics, and I had this privilege of getting to know what President Trump would label as bad hombres. And Charlie was always the person that said, stand in the pocket. Fight these people. Fight, fight, fight these people.

[Andrew]

Some do it, too, in our chat.

[Tyler]

Too many times. Many times.

[Andrew]

We have to wrap. It's been a pleasure to be with the audience. Thank you, Jack. Thank you, Blake. Thank you, Tyler. Thank you, Charlie. Kirk, you are our hero, and you always will be.

[Tyler]

We love you, Charlie.

[Andrew]

We love you.

[Julie]

This is an I Heart podcast.