Human Events with Jack Posobiec, September 23rd, 2025

Summary

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Podcast Summary: "Human Events with Jack Posobiec"

Episode Date: September 23, 2025
Host: Jack Posobiec
Guests: Ali Beth Stuckey, Nicole Shanahan, Mike Benz

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Overview

This episode dives into the escalating political violence in America, recent high-profile acts linked to far-left groups, the role of new media and government in shaping public perception, and breaking developments regarding censorship and children’s health policy. Jack Posobiec, joined by guests including Ali Beth Stuckey and Nicole Shanahan, explores reactions to recent attacks, the left-right cultural divide, the implications of Charlie Kirk’s assassination, and President Trump's historic moves on autism policy. It is an episode charged with emotion, urgency, and pointed critique of mainstream and left-leaning narratives.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Violence, Antifa, and Media Narratives

[00:26 - 02:16]

• The episode opens with a rundown of violent incidents attributed to Antifa and related groups, culminating in the recent designation of "Christ TIFA" as a domestic terrorist organization.
• Emphasis is placed on mainstream media’s alleged underreporting or mischaracterization of left-wing violence.

[01:41] Jack Posobiec:

"The man accused of opening fire at...a Sacramento news station, ABC10, has been arrested by the FBI after posting bail."

[02:46] Jack Posobiec:
Emphasizes Christian forgiveness following tragedy, referencing Erica Kirk’s public display after her husband’s (Charlie Kirk) death and the importance of separating personal forgiveness from public justice.

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2. The Innocence Project and the Death Penalty Debate

[03:54 – 05:18]

• Jack and Ali Beth criticize The Innocence Project, asserting it often defends those they believe are guilty.

• [04:25] Ali Beth Stuckey:

  "When they say love, they actually mean hate. When they say tolerance, they actually mean intolerance. And when they say innocence, they typically mean guilty."

• They discuss the difficulty of facing violent events personally and the imperative to pursue evidence-based reasoning rather than paranoia.

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3. Critical Thinking versus Conspiracy and Evidence-Based Analysis

[05:54 – 07:56]

• Jack describes balancing skepticism toward official stories with the need to avoid conspiratorial thinking, with the essential touchstone being evidence.

[07:06] Jack Posobiec:

"I don't dismiss it, but at the same time, if you can't provide the evidence of it, then I just can't go there."

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4. Contrasting Responses: Right vs. Left

[07:56 – 13:18]

• Comparative analysis of left and right responses to tragedies:

  • Left: "Riots and violence" after George Floyd, media celebrities focusing on “free speech” when minorly inconvenienced (e.g., Jimmy Kimmel’s suspension).
  • Right: “Vigils, forgiveness” in response to assassination (Charlie Kirk).

• [11:46] Ali Beth Stuckey:

  "When our legitimate hero dies, there’s not violence, but there’s vigils. And I just don’t know how someone especially professing Christian right now could not see the perfect dichotomy between light versus darkness."

• Introduction of the “DARVO” tactic: Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender, used by activists and media to shape narratives.

  • [12:49] Jack Posobiec:

    "It’s so interesting that...once you see the tactics and once you see the playbook and the pattern, you just see it over and over."

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5. Feminine Impulse and “Misplaced Mothering” in Progressive Politics

[13:32 – 16:27]

• Jack and Ali Beth analyze how nurturing feminine instincts are culturally redirected towards supporting "marginalized groups," arguing this can become destructive or misapplied.

• [15:15] Ali Beth Stuckey:

  "All of these liberal women have misplaced mothering. And they are acting defensive about these people that they don’t actually know, out of a disordered motherhood instinct."

• Discussion extends to male involvement, with Jack coining terms like “Pink Nightingale” to describe men who adopt similar protective stances around progressive causes in a disordered way.

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6. Pattern Recognition, Radicalization, and Law Enforcement

[16:27 – 18:21]

• Importance of not ignoring patterns in violence or cultural shifts, even when such pattern recognition is politically discouraged.

• Jack draws parallel to terrorism and law enforcement profiling.

• [18:05] Ali Beth Stuckey:

  "Recognizing those patterns is actually important. We’re propagandized against recognizing patterns, but noticing patterns has been passed down for generations."

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7. On-Going Threats and Political Violence

[19:04 – 21:14]

• Commentary on ongoing threats, assassination attempts (notably against President Trump and Charlie Kirk), and the argument that violence is predominantly coming from “one direction.”

• [23:07] Mike Benz segment begins:

  • Mike Benz discusses Big Tech’s admission of government-induced censorship (Google/YouTube allowing return of banned accounts).
  • Censorship is cast as “fifth generation warfare,” with Benz highlighting the original government-military roots of Google.

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8. Government Censorship and Tech Platforms

[23:07 – 28:54]

• Benz details how YouTube and other platforms suppressed dissenting voices on COVID, elections, etc., under governmental pressure—now admitting as much.
• Jack links this trend directly to suppression of people like Charlie Kirk.
• [27:39] Mike Benz:

  "Every great movement ultimately faces the day when one of its leaders faces that bullet...they have no other way to stop you. And they did that to Charlie in his prime."

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9. Breakthrough Autism Policy and Vaccine Debate

[31:46 – 39:18]

• Nicole Shanahan details President Trump’s historic acknowledgment that the childhood vaccine schedule may harm children and his call for change, calling it “bold, brave, and courageous” and a turning point in children's health.
• Shanahan underscores the suffering of autism parents and the importance of now-unlocked information about autism’s biomedical comorbidities.
• Shanahan and Posobiec repeatedly stress this is about health, not politics.
• [35:01] Nicole Shanahan:

  "This is the teeniest scratch of the surface, but it’s opening the valve for us to bring forward all of the other incredible research that has been silenced over the years."

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10. Censorship’s Direct Impact on Children’s Health Discourse

[43:18 – 48:17]

• Shanahan describes how internet censorship prevented autism parents from finding useful information, and praises today’s re-platforming of censored voices.
• Both Shanahan and Posobiec reflect on how state-industry collusion shaped what parents could find online about autism and health.
• [43:18] Nicole Shanahan:

  "You can't have a healthy nation without free speech. I got my daughter's diagnosis in 2019 and went on the Internet, like every mother does, to find information...Until we heard about somebody's doctor who got censored or a video taken down."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jack Posobiec on evidence over paranoia:

  "If you can't provide the evidence of it, then I just can't go there." [07:06]

• Ali Beth Stuckey on progressive language:

  "When they say love, they actually mean hate. When they say tolerance, they actually mean intolerance. And when they say innocence, they typically mean guilty." [04:25]

• Nicole Shanahan on Trump’s autism announcement:

  "Trump did something so bold and so brave and so courageous. We were only supposed to hear about the studies on Tylenol and acetaminophen. And Trump decided in the moment...that we can no longer be silent." [31:46]

• Mike Benz on political violence:

  "As censorship increases, the ultimate form of censorship becomes censorship with a bullet. And that's exactly what happened with Charlie." [27:10]

• Ali Beth Stuckey on the contrast in response:

  "When our legitimate hero dies, there’s not violence, but there’s vigils...It’s so hard for me to see how someone could not see that." [11:46]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Opening / Antifa Violence Recap: [00:26–02:16]
• Christian Forgiveness and Personal Loss: [02:46–03:54]
• Innocence Project & Death Penalty: [03:54–05:18]
• Balancing Critical Thought vs. Conspiracy: [05:54–07:56]
• Comparing Left/Right Responses to Violence: [07:56–13:18]
• DARVO Tactics and Psychological Framing: [12:49–13:32]
• Nurturing Impulse and Feminine Politics: [13:32–16:27]
• Pattern Recognition in Radicalization: [16:27–18:21]
• Ongoing Threats & Political Violence: [19:04–21:14]
• Big Tech Censorship, Government Coercion: [23:07–28:54]
• Autism Policy Breakthrough: [31:46–39:18]
• Censorship & Parent Advocacy: [43:18–48:17]

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Conclusion

This episode underscores the Human Events perspective on culture, media, and political violence in America. The hosts and guests highlight a striking difference in how left and right respond to violence or tragedy, criticize misapplied therapeutic and nurturing impulses in politics, and call out government-media-tech collusion in suppressing key public health debates. With breaking news on verdicts and federal recognition of Antifa as a terrorist group, alongside historic moves on childhood vaccine policy, the episode marks a turning point both politically and culturally.

For listeners seeking a summary of recent events, ideological analysis, and insight into ongoing battles over speech, health, and justice, this episode provides a robust and unapologetically opinionated account.

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Transcript

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Jack Posobiec]

This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran.

[Nicole Shanahan]

This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobic.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Christ TIFA is going to be designated a domestic terrorist organization. In July 2025, several members of an antifa cell ambushed and opened fire on officers at an ICE facility in Alvarado, Texas, shooting one officer in the neck. Also in July 2025, three Antifa members were charged with assaulting a police officer during a violent riot outside an ICE facility in Portland, which for weeks prior had been under siege from the local antifa terror cell. In February 2024, a transgender Antifa terrorist detonated an explosive device outside of the office of the Republican Attorney General of Alabama. In July 2023, Antifa members linked to abortionist group Jane's Revenge firebombed pro life facilities and vandalized churches. In January 2022, a suspected Antifa member was arrested for bringing a pipe bomb to to a pro Trump event. In January 2021, an Antifa supporter threatened to shoot police officers and Trump supporters outside of the Florida State Capitol building. Again, I could continue to list many more examples for those in the room who don't believe this is a serious threat to American safety and our national security, but this administration knows that it is.

[Jack Posobiec]

The man accused of opening fire at.

[Narrator/Reporter]

A Sacramento news station, ABC10, has been arrested by the FBI after posting bail.

[Nicole Shanahan]

For his initial arrest.

[Unknown Commentator]

We believe there was a political motive behind his actions. In fact, when officers went and did a search warrant of his vehicle and next to an anti Trump book, they found a handwritten note. The handwritten note read do not support Patel, Bongino and AG Biondi. They're next. And the note was signed CK from above.

[Mike Benz]

You're only seeing this in people who are under 50 years of age.

[Rue Marcus]

If it were better recognition or diagnosis.

[Mike Benz]

You'D see it in 70 year old men. I've never seen this happening in people my age.

[Rue Marcus]

Don't take Tylenol. There's no downside. Don't take it. You'll be uncomfortable. It won't be as easy, maybe, but don't take it. If you're pregnant, don't take Tylenol.

[Jack Posobiec]

That is is a Christian woman. This is a public display of Christianity directly taken from the Gospel. And I knew that there would be so many people out there that would be confused by Erica Kirk's display of the full values of Christ Jesus before the entire world. This is what Jesus called to forgive on a personal level. And that doesn't change the public punishment and the process, the trial, the. That'll all come, but personal forgiveness. We're called to do this in the Lord's Prayer itself. Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. We are here live, of course, in the Charlie Kirk studio. We're flying in the missing man formation still here in Phoenix, Arizona. Today is September 23, 2025, and though we are down 1, and I'm joined by a woman here in studio today, a fine Christian woman at that, it's Ellie Betztucky.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Thank you so much for being here. Thanks for having me. It is an honor, truly.

[Jack Posobiec]

I know, and you know, it's funny because, you know, here we are, and you and I had been chatting about doing an episode, talking about our favorite death penalty group or anti death penalty group, the Innocence Project.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

And, you know, here we are in a situation where, you know, we were just doing an episode the other day where we were talking about how in this situation, there's been a guy who's received the death penalty in the wake of this leftist violence and who knows how long until the Innocence Project comes in and starts to defend him.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Yeah. Unfortunately, when it comes to any progressive entity, organization, or even just idea, you get closer to the truth by taking them at the opposite of what they mean. So when they say love, they actually mean hate. When they say tolerance, they actually mean intolerance. And when they say innocence, they typically mean guilty. And the Innocence Project takes up the cause of typically, I think, very guilty people and just tries to get them off death row.

[Jack Posobiec]

I call them the Innocence Project.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

There you go. That's good.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

It took me a while to come up with that. I went pretty hard on them back in the day on Rodney Reed, because that story was coming around. And there were some people, by the way, even on, like the conservative.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

I know it's hard, Jack, that got.

[Jack Posobiec]

A little twisted up on that one. And then I just started reading the evidence and I was like, no, no.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

I'm so glad that you're willing to talk about that because, yeah, there aren't very many people on our side who are willing to wade that conversation, but we need to, like, rightly order justice matters.

[Jack Posobiec]

And, and, and this is why, because I've gone through stuff like that and you have as well. In, in cases that we weren't related to that we were much more impartial on having no idea that we'd be faced with one ourselves.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

Is that. It's like I feel like in a way, I was preparing myself for trying to figure out what happened here in a case where it's my friend who was the victim and I have friends who were the eyewitnesses, and I don't even know how to put it into words. You know what I mean, though?

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm curious to hear what you think, like the balance of all of us, we want the truth, and no one thinks that you should just take whatever the government tells you as absolute truth ever. So you want to ask questions, but at the same time, it can be so easy to go down these rabbit holes of paranoia. Is it this? Is it that? So how do balance that of critical thinking, asking questions without going down the conspiracy route?

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, you know, it's, it's. It all for me, it just comes back to evidence. I just say, I. I just say, what actual evidence do we have? And if you stick with that and you use that hard evidence as your. I really don't want to say lodestar, but if you use it, or North Star, but if you use that as your rubric, if you use that as your litmus test, it really prevents you. Because it could always be something else. It. Anything could be something else. But if you say, right, do I have evidence of this? All right, what do I have evidence of? So in this case, we have the bullet casings. You know, we have some stuff about a gun. We have a gun that's been recovered now. We have DNA links, we have text messages, we have discord. So it's like I just go on that. And then when someone says, well, what if this, what if this show. Cool, great. Show me the evidence.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Right, right, exactly.

[Jack Posobiec]

Like, I don't dismiss it, but at the same time, if you can't provide the evidence of it, then I just, I just can't go there.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Yeah, I 100% agree. And a lot of people have been messaging me. Have you heard this? Have you heard that?

[Nicole Shanahan]

And I've heard it all.

[Jack Posobiec]

And I don't, I don't try to shut that down either. Unless, you know, unless there's something where. Because this horrific turn of events, I find myself, you know, and we're in this case where, you know, we know people who were there and, you know, you can walk around and it's, and it's, it's been so amazing seeing the fact that the staff of this building that we're sitting in right now has come in every day. Yeah, the. The staff over at the Turning Point center, they've come in every day. Yeah, they're right here. They're willing to work, even having gone through that grief themselves.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

But they're staying on mission. And so as certain things have bubbled up, you know, I can go over, hey, you know, what's this thing? You know, and one of the big ones, you know, and, you know, was Charlie wearing a vest? He wasn't. You know, and that was something where it was like, we weren't sure at first. And you ask around, and there you go, you know, it's. And it's one of those things where it's like, I wish he was. Don't. Don't think it would have, you know, changed the situation here. But it is what it is. But, you know, I wanted to even take that back a second, because something that was really striking to me is that when we see this incredible outpouring of love and thank you so much for being there on. On Sunday, and there's just. There's so many. There were so many people there. I don't even know everyone who was. And then I'm like, I was asking around. I said, oh, I didn't see this guy. And they're like, oh, yeah, he's over here. And I don't even know. I don't even. Can't even tell yet. And it was such an outpouring of love and such an outpouring of goodness and godliness and the Christian gospel with. On full display with Erica's incredible Christian witness that she performed and the hard work that she performed in doing that. And in the wake of this assassination, we've seen more violence now from Jimmy Kimmel not being on air for six days because there was this leftist that shoots up. And we just played the video, an ABC affiliate and is talking about, like, Charlie and Pam Bondi and Cash Patel and all this stuff. And we found his Twitter account, and he's just raging, Absolute raging. Targeted me, targeted you, targeted everybody. Just raging leftist. And so it's like. It shows you the difference, shows you which team you want to be on. But there's a real threat out there.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Yeah, there really is. I mean, it was almost. It'd be laughable if it weren't so sad that you've got people like Ben Stiller and all of these celebrities speaking up for free speech. Not after the guy gets assassinated for free speech, but because someone gets temporarily suspended for five days because of something that he said from his employer. Like I'm going to question your, like.

[Jack Posobiec]

You got a vacation?

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Yes. I'm going to question your First Amendment bona fides. If you spoke up in the last latter case, but not in the former case. But that's, you know, that's leftism.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's disorders. $16 million a year, by the way. Like, I think he'll be all right.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Boo hoo.

[Jack Posobiec]

I think he'll be okay.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Boo hoo. Okay, so this guy shoots up the ABC affiliate because he's taking vengeance for Jimmy Kimmel.

[Jack Posobiec]

I mean, you look at his Twitter account and he's going all he had been prior to this, you know, tweeting about Jimmy Kimmel, et cetera, et cetera. Getting really radicalized about this.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

And. And then release just leaves this note that it's very hard to understand. He's sort of like trying to hit all of the, you know, the current hot topics on the left and things like that.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

And it's slaughtered in the streets. Their communities absolutely. Raised to the ground because they were angry about supposed systemic racism that they claimed killed George Floyd, who wasn't even a hero yet. One of our heroes died.

[Jack Posobiec]

There were, there were black teenagers that got shot up in jazz.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Exactly. There was an eight year old little girl, Sequoria Turner, who was down in Atlanta. Exactly. And what happens when one of our.

[Jack Posobiec]

Legitimate, I believe they were trying to go to Wendy's.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Yep, you're absolutely right. And they were, I think burning the Wendy's. And I'm pretty sure that these BLM rioters, they stuck their gun in the back seat of the car and killed this little eight year old girl. So that's what happens on that side. It's not even just a leftist problem, it's an evilness problem. And then on our side, when our legitimate hero dies, there's not violence, but there's vigils. And I just don't know how someone could see, especially professing Christian right now could not see the perfect dichotomy between light versus darkness. And it's not primarily Republican versus Democrat, although that matters. It's primarily light versus darkness. It's so hard for me to see how someone could not see that.

[Jack Posobiec]

I think the vast majority of people do see it. But I also think this is what. So I posted this last night and this is a classic tactic of the left. It's also well known in psychology from narcissists, which is called Darvo, the great Darvo tactic. Deny attack, reverse victim and offender. So this is something that's known and by the way, men and women, right. It's, it's, you know, and people talk about it in relationships all the time. But what you're seeing, of course, is because something horrible happened to Charlie, they have to deny what happened. They have to attack Charlie and then they reverse the victim and offender so. So they have to somehow become the victim. So Jimmy Kimmel. Right. Becomes the victim. And it's, it's Republicans fault. It's Charlie's fault. And what was Jimmy doing? He was blaming Maga. He was saying, this is. You guys did this. It was not one of us. It was definitely one of you. And, and oh, by the way, try. And this is where you get like the cluster B responses of, of it didn't happen. Well, if it did happen, it wasn't that big of a deal. And if it was that big of a deal, then it should have happened. And finally. Well, you should be glad it happened.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Yeah, exactly.

[Nicole Shanahan]

Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

This, it's so interesting that it's like once you see the tactics and once you see the playbook and the pattern, you just, you see it over. It's like that scene in the Matrix.

[Nicole Shanahan]

You just see it over and over as you're talking.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

I'm like, oh, that's exactly what they do on abortion. That's what they do on every single thing.

[Jack Posobiec]

Literally every topic.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Yep. And they use, you know, Charlie and I always talked about this, how they use empathy to convince people to go down. The tactic that you just explained to feel bad for this person over here but ignore this over here. It's a distortion.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's total distortion.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

So.

[Jack Posobiec]

And typically it's, it's also, it's very feminine, by the way. So what they'll do is they'll take the normal female nurturing impulse, which is, is obviously in a rightly ordered society is for family and children. And that's like, like, it's like women love gardening.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Yes.

[Jack Posobiec]

Like, like my wife, like, she's like, I'm like, why do you want to go and plant stuff and grow it?

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

And I'm like, it's caretaking.

[Jack Posobiec]

And I'm like, yeah, it's great. And that's, that's female. And like, I just don't have that. I'm like, I get that she likes it fine. So not into it.

[Nicole Shanahan]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

And you know, I'm like, I want to build something. I want to go out and do something. I want to go out and, you know, and if anyone's messing with us, you know, then I got, I got to go take care of that too. And you know this. So. But if you disassociate that from the family, which. Which requires, you know, billions of dollars of propaganda and decades upon decades of cultural conditioning which is. Is Got. Been able to pierce the veil like a little bit at least, then you're. What you're doing is you're switching that over to, quote, unquote, marginalized groups.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

So a marginalized group like in at risk pregnant teen or a, you know, an illegal alien who's living in the shadows, trying to just find a better life for themselves or the marginalized transgender community. And so it's. You're taking that caretaking impulse, which is good.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

And switching it to something that ultimately is either negative for society, negative for the person involved, or. And. And then can become extremely negative for anyone who gets targeted. As in the way. Which seems like. What is the case with Charlie, with. With what happened here?

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

100%. That is spot on. I call it misplaced mothering, because naturally we have this mothering instinct. It's why girls play with dolls or growing up. Well, that doesn't go away. It's going to channel itself towards something. Ideally, it channels itself towards children or women who are called not to get married. Channels itself towards maybe discipleship, caring for children in other ways, but not channeling that mothering instinct towards kids. You'll channel it towards animals, you'll channel it towards your profession, you'll channel it towards plants. Or you will channel it towards political causes. And so you take under your wing the illegal migrant or the trans person, and you become, in your mind, their mama bear. Well, we know how mama bears react when someone tries to hurt their cubs. They're vicious. And so all of these liberal women have misplaced mothering. And they are acting defensive about these people that they don't actually know out of a disordered motherhood instinct.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's so perfect and it actually tracks. Now, I don't think that's exactly what Tyler Robinson was doing. That was. It's along those lines. But because he was male.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Yeah, it's different.

[Jack Posobiec]

What he was actually doing was, you would say white knighting if it was a male female relationship. But in this case, I think we have to say Pink Nightingale.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Oh, gosh.

[Jack Posobiec]

Because so many layers of depravity because it's a male. Male relationship. And I've even looked at some of the furry pornography that he was looking at. And I've seen some of a lot of the chats and stuff that people haven't even been interested. Stuff that I Can't even show here. And to realize how completely disordered this individual was. And. But again, in that case, it's the misplacement of saying, I want to protect my loved one and I view Charlie Kirk as a threat to them. And so I'm doing this out of protection in a totally backwards and messed up way that leads them to do this. Because something I learned in Guantanamo, you know, having spent time there, is that. And people say, oh, those guys are not so this guy's. They're all nuts. And yeah, to be sure. Right. But they don't think they are right. They think they're scary part. They think they're rational. So when you can pick apart the ideology, their rationalization, their justification to understand what went wrong, which is what I always try to do, then you can create a profile, then you can figure out the pattern. And this is something that just from a basic federal law enforcement perspective, like when we had serial killers and we had Jeffrey Dahmer running around, we used to do this. And yet for some reason, in this specific instance of, of the radical left and radical trans shooters, we just. We don't do it.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Yeah, it's so true. And recognizing those patterns is actually important. And we're propagandized against recognizing patterns, but, I mean, those things have literally been passed down to us for generations, noticing patterns for the survival of our species. So it's actually just prudence.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah. So, you know, don't. Don't notice, don't track, don't look at things that, you know, seem to have a message. And it's like, you know, so many people, especially on the right, when, when Charlie was hit, you know, they, they, you know, we, we said, hey, we think this is what it is. And. And that ended up being it. And they're doing everything again. I understand you have to run. I know you got a flight.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Thank you so much, though, for having me. I'm so honored to be able to hand this off. And you're doing a great job and honoring Charlie's legacy. So keep going.

[Jack Posobiec]

God bless you, Ali Beth.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Thank you.

[Jack Posobiec]

We'll have to do a much longer. I'm like, I'm getting so wrapped up in their conversation. I'm like, all right, she had a flight and I'm getting all these messages. Jack, she gotta go.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

No, it's all good. Thank you.

[Jack Posobiec]

And we're going to have to do a longer one of these. For sure.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

For sure.

[Jack Posobiec]

We will, folks, the great Alibeth Stuckey. Make sure you are going to follow her across all platforms. Once, of course, you subscribed to the latest human events daily and feel free. If you got to run, you got to run. It's no problem. And look, folks, this is what we're up against. We're up against a people that will spread deception operations that will lie about Jimmy Kimmel, that will lie about what's going on, that will distract you. And I'm not, and I'm not saying that it works on you, I'm not saying that it works on everyone you know, but it works on some of them and it works on enough. And those people are out there and they're getting madder and they're getting angrier, and then one of them is going to pick up a gun and head to the local ABC station or worse, head to a campus. And look, this is all real. This is the real world. Somebody has to say it. When President Trump made the designation yesterday of ANTIFA as a domestic terrorist organization and opened up new authorities to be able to go against them. There's a real threat out there. It's 100% real. And don't let anyone ever tell you for a second that this is a both sides issue. Charlie Kirk was shot and killed in cold blood. ABC station was just set shot up. We've been receiving death threats at scene, death threats at other stations and other things that have gone on. There are bullets flying. This is the real world and they will not stop until they are stopped. Luigi Maggione is still coming. Be right back. Human Events Daily continues. Rue Marcus voice.

[Rue Marcus]

You talk about influencers. These are influencers and they're friends of mine. Jack. Where's Jack? Jack's got a great job.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right, Jack. Pacific back live Human Events Daily. We're here in Phoenix, Arizona. Breaking news. A verdict has been reached. Just as we were during the break in the Ryan Routh trial. This was the would be assassin of President Trump at at West Palm beach at Trump International Golf Course. And we of course will have that verdict for you as soon as it is read. Looks like the jury, jury only deliberated for about two hours. Ryan Routh represented himself, did an absolutely horrible job in terms of his defense. So we'll see what comes out there, folks. I want to remind you though that if you're a patriot out there, you gotta stop giving money to people who hate you. And so many times the big telecom companies are using the money from your service fees and they're going and putting it in the pockets of far leftist organizations. We remember the ESG situation. We remember the crt. Remember the BLM donations and all the the nonsense that they were giving money to? No, we have to stop and we have to use economic warfare. Vote with your dollars. So all patriots now go to patriot mobile.com poso or call 972-patriot get a free month of service with promo code poso again that's patriot mobile.com poso in such a time as this. And I want to say thank you to Patriot Mobile for being there with us in this time. The guys who run Patriot Mobile actually came out to Charlie's memorial Glenn story got to see him and his lovely wife there show their support. Patriots stand up for each other and that's why we need to stand up for them. Patriot mobile.com post I want to bring on now Mike Benz, the executive director of the foundation for Freedom Online because Benz, we got huge news out of YouTube just a few hours ago.

[Mike Benz]

Oh, it's absolutely massive. So there's several things. Google just had its Mark Zuckerberg moment. If folks remember after the Supreme Court case that Amy Coney Barrett threw out effectively on standing grounds arguing that effectively that there is insufficient evidence of government coercion of the platforms to censor the specific individuals in the law lawsuit because of the thousands of people that that the Biden government told to censor the the exact plaintiffs were not in the were not named by the Biden administration. The Biden administration simply told them take down everyone who's a critic of COVID take nine one who questions election voting machines. And those people got swept up. And after that Mark Zuckerberg wrote this letter in 2024 to Jim Jordan's House Judiciary Committee confessing and saying yes, actually we did do this because of government coercion. We only did this because of government coercion. Jim Jordan, who deserves all the credit in the world for this by the way, as the head of the Weaponization subcommittee and the House Judiciary Committee has been on big tech companies like White on Rice for three years now and these efforts are paying enormous dividends in what the House Judiciary Committee has been doing, has been subpoenaing the the tech companies for their version of the Twitter files. We got the Google Files, the Facebook files and and the like and they all showed government coercion on this. And what Google has done is they have confessed just like Mark Zuckerberg did to take having the terms of service policies they did because of pressure from the Biden government. But then they went a step farther and and offered effectively an amnesty, offered the a right of return if you Will to the exiled banned social media accounts who criticized both Covid vaccines and COVID policies as well as election denial. This was one of the big ways they completely rigged the 2020 election is that almost every major right wing influencer was kicked off of the biggest video platform on planet earth and the second biggest website on Google on planet earth. The number one most trafficked is google.com, the number two most trafficked is YouTube.com, both are controlled by Google and offered them the ability to come back to the platform. And there's lots of reasons in the background of this. There's obviously the fear of government pressure from any number of US executive branch agencies, as well as legislative pressure. This was the trick that Democrats used to pressure the platforms to do censorship. This was the thing I was calling for in 2018, 2019, 2020 that Republicans need to do as counter pressure for free speech. Those same kind of pressure tactics are very effective because at the end of the day, these corporations have a fiduciary duty to maximize shareholder profits. And the government is the big customer for these companies, especially Google. Google was conceived of initially. It came out of a DARPA grant for a joint CIA NSA program called the Massive Digital Data Systems Program. This is how Larry Page and Sergey Brin were in position to create Google because their DARPA grant while they were Stanford PhDs was to create the architecture for Back Page, this, this predecessor to Google that turned into Google and then Google became a military contractor the very year they went public. I think it was 2003, 2004, that Google has almost all of its major products and services because of the US Government. They only have Google Earth because they bought the CIA's keyhole satellite technology. The list goes on and on and on.

[Jack Posobiec]

And Mike, you know, just, just in the last, in the last minute that we have, I want to point out that one of the high profile conservatives that we know face this kind of government censorship was none other than Charlie Kirk himself. And you saw these increasing levels of censorship and you've said, and I've said in the past that as censorship increases, the ultimate form of censorship, censorship becomes censorship with a bullet. And that's exactly what happened with Charlie.

[Mike Benz]

Yep. And they, and, and this is like this is going to be with us for eternity. The fact is, is every great movement ultimately faces the day when one of its leaders faces that bullet. That is, that is the telltale sign that they have no other way to stop you. And they did that to Charlie in his prime and not even in his Prime. I mean, but Charlie was absolutely going to be a US president one day, if not in the next five years, in the next 10, 20, 30, 40. I mean, Trump didn't become president until his 70s. This is. And they cut him down with a bullet, as you said. And a lot of this was also because when people get to live in a bubble and all you hear is someone's fascist, someone's a Nazi, YouTube is bigger than TV, it's bigger than Netflix. It is, it is the video content par excellence. We built alternative institutions through places like Rumble, through X Video and the like. But the fact is Google and Google monetization is where the big bucks are made for everyday content creators, political ones.

[Jack Posobiec]

Exactly right. Mike Benz, gut, thank you so much for joining us. Go and follow him right back.

[Rue Marcus]

Where's Jack? Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you. Great job, Jack.

[Unknown Commentator]

Thank you.

[Rue Marcus]

What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who be getting pullers.

[Jack Posobiec]

Ladies and gentlemen. We're back. Jack Posobic live. We're here on, on Human Events Daily. And just to get this out, breaking news. Ryan Ralph the would be assassinated assassin of President Donald Trump has been found guilty on all charges by a federal jury in Florida. So guilty on all charges, including the attempted assassination of the President. I'm going to get in as much as I can the ability to figure out what the sentences are for this. And actually producers, maybe you can maybe get Blake Neff to, to pull that up for us. But the look, this is, this is a case where again, it has to be said the violence is coming from one direction. President Trump was almost killed twice last year. An ABC station was shot up just a couple of days ago in Sacramento. Charlie Kirk, the man who used to sit and should be sitting right now in this chair right next to me, was shot and killed by a violent leftist. Understand the situation, know what time it is. How many times did Charlie say that know what time it is? Charlie knew what time it is. President Trump knew what time it is. Stephen Miller knew what time it is and knows what time it is. Do you know what time it is? Guy just found got found guilty of trying to kill President Trump. And he was only one hole away. He was on the fifth green, Trump was. Or he was on the sixth green. Trump was on the fifth. It was only a matter of minutes before he could have had a direct shot on President Trump before the election. Figure it out. Wake up. Something else that we are waking up to, though, is what's going on in our in health and what's going on with our children. And I wanted to bring on someone who has been a massive voice for children and specifically talking about the issue of autism. Folks, Nicole Shanahan joins us next. Nicole, we're so honored to have you with us here today.

[Nicole Shanahan]

Jack, I'm so honored to be here with you today. Today, after a historic announcement on children's health, hearing president speak openly about autism and its comorbidities, and many of us who knew subtle, there's some things that happened yesterday that were very unexpected. Trump did something so bold and so brave and so courageous. We were only supposed to hear about the studies on Tylenol and acetaminophen. And Trump decided in the moment. And I believe he embodied Charlie Kirk. I believe that something has happened to this nation, to our leadership in this nation, that we can no longer be silent. We must speak the truth. And yesterday, Trump did. And you have to understand what a big, big deal this is, Jack, that Trump said that the childhood vaccine schedule is causing harm, needless harm. It's reckless, and it can be changed, and we will change it. He opened up, he greenlit a mandate for that the voters wanted. But as you very well know, things have to happen in a certain order for them to be successful. And HHS and Bobby have been incredibly conscientious and careful in how they approach change. It's a very heated political environment.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

Our health.

[Nicole Shanahan]

It's a very dangerous environment. Many good doctors have lost their licenses. Some have lost their lives. It's a. To underscore, I don't have the words to properly emphasize how groundbreaking what Donald Trump, President Donald Trump did yesterday. And I have received messages from people who were worried about us leaving our campaign and Bobby leaving his campaign to join this administration, thinking that Bobby would get silenced, that Bobby wouldn't get a big enough stage. Donald Trump has done exactly the opposite. And there is no more doubt in the Maha movement that President Donald Trump is the first president who is brave enough to take on the entrenched big pharma lobby and do what is needed to finally, finally protect our children.

[Jack Posobiec]

I. It's incredible to see, and to anyone who's gone through this or have children been affected by this, it's. It's truly something incredible to see him use his ability as the public figure that he is, as well as the president, the leader of all of us, to do something for the children. Now, I'LL ask you this, though. Do you think this is the end of the story on childhood autism? Because I do see a lot of people saying that they think it's a great first step, but that the story will continue.

[Nicole Shanahan]

Oh, this is the teeniest scratch of the surface, but it's opening the valve for us to bring forward all of the other incredible research that has been silenced over the years. One of the challenges, and I just want to speak to the millions of mothers out there who feel that somehow how they're to blame. You're not to blame at all. What President Trump did yesterday was he put doctors in a position to finally provide the right kind of information to parents. He is now allowing information to be made directly to moms so that they can make the right decision. There is no blame here, moms. We know everyone out there is doing the very best with the information that you have. And the sad reality is information has been kept from you intentionally. And what we're going to learn is that autism is not just a psychiatric disorder, that almost all autism cases have some form of biomedical comorbidity. These are apraxia, dyspraxia, which limits a child's brain in its capability, its motor planning capability to speak. And we're going to finally hear about apraxia and dyspraxia and how under diagnosed it is amongst these children who are, you know, the parents are told it's just a psychiatric disorder. That's why they're not speaking. No, they're not speaking because there is a neurologic condition.

[Jack Posobiec]

And it's, and it's so, you know, I've heard so many messages and our producers have heard so many messages from moms and, you know, girls and their friend groups talking about this. I think this is something. The moms knew something was up and it was the moms who pushed this forward because the moms were saying something was not right. And to me, really. And you as well. Right. You know, as, as a mother and, and, and my wife and, you know, Tanya. And there's something incredible about the moms taking the forefront on this. And the moms had to come to the know Erica and Charlie and it became such a. Charlie became such a proponent of Maha and such a proponent of this issue where it really was mom driven. And I think it's, I just think it's amazing. I really do know.

[Nicole Shanahan]

I spoke with my autism mom mentor. I'm an autism mom. That's what brought me into politics. I sold my AI company. I was a very successful Patent AI lawyer. And two months after my daughter's autism diagnosis, I knew I had a new job. Much more important, that was figuring out what was going on with my child, who was suffering from all of these different things that were new to me. I'd never seen anything like this. And moms have sought out other moms. They've been gas. I mean, talk about gaslighting. The amount of gaslighting that mothers have experienced is extraordinary. So much so that there's so much pain in this community. The autism community is. Is full of courage. It is full of mightiness, but it is full of a lot of pain as well. And the desire to help our children. That's what unites us autism moms. We might have political differences, but we love, love, love our children so much. And, you know, autism doesn't define who they are. Chronic illness does not find who they are. But we want. We want their full expression of who they are because we want to take away these hurdles. We want to take away these things that are just making to day so difficult for them, and we want to see them thriving. That's all. That's all. And it's not about politics. It's about love. At the end of all of this effort, and it's about the right to thrive. Why would we be preventing any child or family from fully expressing its full potential and full happiness?

[Jack Posobiec]

It's not political at all. At all. It's not political at all. It's about. It's about health. It's a health issue. It's a children's issue. Children obviously are not, you know, left or right or whatever, and people are, you know, not left or right. We're still people. We're still humans. We're still all members of this country and members of this planet. And it's something where, if we can figure it out here in the United States, we can figure it out everywhere and hopefully share that. Nicole Shanahan, I hope, hope you will hold on with us. We have a quick break, but I hope you'll stay because we have so much more to get to, and I really want to get to as much as we can here on the program today, Real America's Voice, Human events daily. Right back.

[Rue Marcus]

Jack is a great guy. He's written a fantastic book. Everybody's talking about it. Go get it. And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event. And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.

[Jack Posobiec]

Amen. Jack, we're back live here. Human events Daily. So much breaking news going on. Of course, we're in the Charlie Kirk studio where we're holding it down as much as we can. We are here. Charlie's chair is nearby. It's next to us. But nobody sits in the chair. Erica didn't sit in the chair. If she wants to chair, obviously, that's, that's her prerogative. But none of the rest of us. No, no. Wouldn't be right. And we're here. Incredible news. So President Trump's would be assassin just found guilty on all counts. But also President Trump coming down, talking about childhood autism, the epidemic that's going on has and say and putting moms first. Putting moms first. It's incredible to see and it's incredible to have it here. Folks, real quick, I want to read you a message from one of our partners out there. Please go and support them because they've been with us in this very trying time. And so I hope that you will listen to them and be receptive as well. Folks, silver just cracked $44 and gold keeps breaking all time highs. People always ask me, how do I get involved in the gold sector? And the answer is, is simple. Allegiance Gold. Whether you're a collector looking for the best pricing in the precious metal space or you're looking to protect your future, doesn't matter if it's $5,000 or $5,000,000, now is the time to act. Just go to protectwithposo.com to get started. Allegiance Gold is the highest ratings in the industry and I've been partnered with them for years. When you go to protect with poso.com or call 844577 poso, you can move part of your 401k IRA or savings into real physical gold and silver and you may qualify for up to 5,000 do free silver. And with the way the market is looking, that free silver could be worth a lot more by the time it arrives securely at your doorstep. So call 844-577-POSO or visit protectwithposo.com that's 844-577-7676 or protectwithposo.com it's smart, secure and simple. Call 844-577-6666. Want to bring our guest Nicole Shanahan back on here? Nicole, you've been at the forefront of this, this for so long now, and we're talking about it. But I wanted to also juxtapose what we've learned here in the last 24 hours because not only has President Trump come out and say this, but here's what's amazing. Just one year ago, if he had said that on YouTube, he could have been censored. And we now come to find that YouTube was, in fact. And they have admitted that they were censoring people based on a push and based on coercion from the federal government in the Biden administration, which we all expected, by the way, and was what we all said was going on on the basis of what they labeled medical misinformation. So walk us through. How did these things work in tandem?

[Nicole Shanahan]

You can't have a healthy nation without free speech. I, I got my daughter's diagnosis in 2019 and went on the Internet, like every mother does, to find information. That's what we do. We go to the Internet even before we call our doctors, even before we call our friends, even before we call our own parents. And we expect that. We've always trusted these platforms until we didn't, until we heard about somebody's doctor who got censored or a video taken down. That's how I found out. I met an autism mom who told me that her videos were getting taken down off the Internet and if you tried to Google her website, you couldn't find it. And so I, you know, I was seeing this early on. Obviously, I was in a, in a unique situation, kind of stuck between trying to seek out the best for my dog, Water, and then being, you know, a Silicon Valley elite and directly connected in, in many ways through my time at Stanford and personally to these tech platforms that had aligned or, or were pressured. Who knows, you know, we're still finding out there's going to be more information made available. But, but we know for a fact that voices were being censored. And, and this has been known to many, many people in the United States for, you know, close to six years now. And the, the challenge that we face in the aftermath of this is that we now live in this siloed world of information. So what do we do? I, I would say this morning's admission is probably one of the biggest steps. It's incredibly breakthrough. You pair that with what happened yesterday with President Trump's and, and Robert F. Kennedy' we're finally going to get information to help these children out. Can you imagine that? Gut dysbiosis, which is linked to an autism diagnosis as a comorbidity. Much of that was censored. Andy Wakefield completely censored his entire career, you know, career after he made that finding over 20 years ago. 20 years, we've had this information 20 years we've been trying to get this information out, and it's just been block after block. And it has been the tech companies that have been largely responsible for this, but it's also been the government sending signals that they don't want this information out there.

[Jack Posobiec]

And when you look at it, too, it. You also have to wonder, when you look at something like YouTube, as powerful as it is, who was the algorithm pushing, right? Which names then were working in conjunction with these corporations? What are their corporate dollars that went behind it, that the government sort of went to YouTube and said, hey, make sure that the algorithm suggests this person next. Hey, make sure this one gets to the front page. Hey, make sure this one gets pushed in. And this is where the coercive effects of, as you say, corporate money and government interests can come together. And I love that we're living in this moment of freedom of speech, but we're not that far removed from what happened. This was only a year ago that we were living under, I just have to say it, we were living under a communist totalitarianism, at least when it comes to online speech. And you saw it with how people were locked up for so many of these things, how so many people were persecuted, how many doctors were persecuted. And it's something that I really think we haven't quite come to grips with yet as a country.

[Nicole Shanahan]

Country, we haven't. And these doctors are waiting for an apology. These doctors are waiting to be replatformed and to have some of their damages rewarded in one way or another. Many of them would be just fine with getting their jobs back. A wonderful pediatrician, neurologist from Brown University was just fired last week because it leaked that he was invited onto a sip. It's gotten some news coverage, but not much. But, you know, maybe Brown should invite him back. If Jimmy Kimmel can get his dismal show back with some online, you know, complaints and political pressure, I think that this doctor should get his job back.

[Jack Posobiec]

And one shooting up of an ABC station, you know, yeah, they just go in with the insanity. They go in with the complete insanity. But we're fighting back. And I hope, I really hope that the forces of good are winning. Nicole, thank you so much for joining us. Tell people where they can follow your, your, your show.

[Nicole Shanahan]

Yeah, back to the people. Follow our show. We're going to be doing quite a bit in the upcoming weeks on other therapies, things to look out for in, in your child if they're experiencing signs of chronic disease, sensory processing disorder, apraxia and all of that. We're finally going to talk about the stuff that's been censored. And thank God for that.

[Jack Posobiec]

God bless. Nicole. Thank you so much for joining us today.

[Nicole Shanahan]

Thank you.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right, folks, we're also seeing incredible, just stunning breaking news, but not shocking, not surprising from the Ryan Ralph case, where reports are now that Ryan Routh, the violent leftist who attempted to murder President Trump, also just attempted to commit suicide inside the jail, excuse me, inside the courtroom where he attempted to stab himself with a pen after he was found guilty. We don't know exactly what his status is with his medical status, whether or not he did injure himself. But again, the violent left is on full display. It's on full display. Utah Valley University, Florida Courtroom, Butler, Pennsylvania, ABC station in Sacramento, take your pick, but make sure that you do not let your eyes stay closed. Open them up and open them wide. This is the real world. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay.

[Ali Beth Stuckey]

This is an I Heart podcast.