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David Pen
This is an I heart podcast.
Dr. Dennis Black
Greetings, Naturopathy Dr. Dennis Black here, founder of Rough Greens. And if only dogs could talk, I think a lot of them would say, hey, thanks for the love, but this food, it's not working for me. The truth is, they'd be right. Because most dog food, wet or dry, is cooked at such high temperatures that every live nutrient in it is destroyed. And what you're left with is. Is dead food bulked up with fillers and sprayed with artificial flavors. That's not what dogs need. But when you add back in the live vitamins, omega oils and antioxidants are in Rough Greens, your dog would say something different. Like, they'd say, wow, this is delicious. Or sluggish dogs might say, hey, let's go for a walk. Older dogs might say, I feel like a puppy again. It's not magic, it's biology. Don't just imagine it. See it in your dog. I'll send you a free Jumpstart trial bag for your dog. You just cover the shipping. Go to ruffgreens.com use discount code talk. That's Ruff Greens Discount code Talk. If your dog could only talk, they'd say, thank you.
David Pen
Cross our hearts and hope to die.
Jewish Community Member / Commentator
By these 50 countries differing so much in race and religion, in language and.
Dr. Dennis Black
Culture, it is a big idea. A new world order.
David Pen
Well, I know they're lying. They tricked me once, but they're not going to trick me twice. The time is now. Welcome back to the Professor Penn Podcast. David Pen, your host. Glad to be with you as always on this September 9th 9th, Tuesday night, 7:30pm Central Standard Time. You know, we're on YouTube and X and Rumble and Apple podcasts and Spotify, wherever you like. To listen to your podcast material, the Professor Pen podcast is there, including syndicated now on iheartradio. Iheartradio. This episode, number 237, has got a lot of material in it, but we're going to take another run at Kristen Robbins. It was very interesting, the piece we did last week. The soccer mom. Of course, Kristen Robbins is a darling of many of the local men, GOP activists. Although I have been told through the grapevine that she is no friend to the President Trump camp, that President Trump's camp knows she was a Nikki Haley supporter and that she is not welcome in the President's circle. Interesting. Nevertheless, my goal with Kristen Robbins is not to damage her gubernatorial run. My goal is to end her political career. And why do I say that? I don't say that to make you hate Me, I say that because we have to make some decisions as Minnesota citizens and as American citizens about who we are going to elect to represent us. And when people have histories that are globalist histories, you know, in their work life or, you know, their orientation, their friends, their family, their connections, you know, they're 100% justified. I mean, they're American citizens. If they want to believe in globalism and the end of the republic, as you know, their political modus operandi, they have every right to do that under the Constitution of the United States. And we the people have every right to figure out who they are and send them along their way. If we want to maintain a sovereign Republican, we have to understand. I have to understand, and I want to share with you, how are we going to maintain that republic? Well, the most important thing is we are a political action community. And I want every single one of you to get involved in the Republican Party. And for those of you who are Democrats or leftists that are watching, you know, it's not that I'm banging the pots for the Republican Party, it's I'm banging the pots for the philosophy of Republicanism. And even if you're a Democrat, you don't know this, You're a Republican. In fact, at one time, there was, I think, a party called the Democrat Republican Party, which kind of sums it all up. Good morning, Tanner. How you doing?
Tanner
I'm doing good. How about you?
David Pen
I'm all right. I'm right. But we're back at it here again. Once again, we're working on it. We're working on getting you involved in politics. I just invited Tanner to come to me to the Minnesota State Central Committee meeting, which is this Saturday. And I said, tanner, I'm not inviting you to film. It's not a business deal. Maybe you just want to come along. And he had a good, you know, response. My daughter's in soccer on Saturday. I can't make it. And, you know, we. We have those other commitments, those other things we have to do. I got this young guy, Tanner. He's doing a lot. He's getting involved, and everybody needs to get involved. So pursuant to that, I want to say, I said our next meeting here in SD45 was September 10th. I was incorrect. Please don't show up at Devanese on Wednesday because we won't be there. But we're going to get back to you soon. Please go to caucus counterattack on the roycewhite US Website, caucus counter attack, where you can fill out this form and we will be in touch with you. Our goal is to meet you. I want to meet you. I want to get to know you. This past Wednesday, I went to Devani's. We had a group there and we just sat and talked. I mean, it wasn't a big political shindig. It was more neighbors getting together and just expressing to each other ideas and what they want to accomplish. But none of this means anything to me personally unless I get you involved in politics. I know that sounds. It's a little bit controlling. I don't like being that way. But I just got to get you involved in politics because my freedom depends on it. You know, it's a self preservation proposition for me because I recognize that as long as the everyday American citizens stay disengaged, we're going to have a political class of people who talk like number one, please play number one. The ambassador has a very interesting view of anti Semitism. Rusheer grew up in America.
Jewish Community Member / Commentator
There was anti Semitism.
David Pen
Of course, what I've experienced, we've all experienced that. The ambassador has a very interesting view of that. He says people are. You can't understand antisemitism. If the people who are anti Semitic, it's because they're against God, against Rabbi Shulet, and we are represented as his people. And that's why they're anti Semitic. Otherwise it doesn't make any sense. Interesting view.
Political Analyst / Commentator
It's interesting view.
David Pen
He.
Political Analyst / Commentator
There's another view that since we consider the chosen people. So people are very. Who are you? Why are you taking big shots? Chosen people.
David Pen
And that's part of it, is that because you are the chosen people given a chosen place for a chosen purpose. And if someone is angry at God, he'll be angry at the people who represent him. So I tell people anti Semitism is irrational. There's no reason for it unless you understand the spiritual reason, which is what I believe is at the heart of it. It is not the left versus the right. It is good versus evil. It is the creator versus those who rebel against the creators. That is Ambassador Mike Huckabee, ambassador to Israel, speaking with two rabbis there. You know, Tanner, when I saw that the first time, I thought it was A.I. really I did, because I thought, what a crazy ass conversation that is to start saying if you criticize the Jewish people, you're angry at God. Boy, that is some political cover right there.
Tanner
Can I say something?
David Pen
Oh, you can say whatever you want to, young man, please.
Tanner
I'm not surprised. The conclusion they came with. I'm not surprised the what? They came the Conclusion that there's. Oh, there's no other reason that they could hate us. It's because they hate God.
David Pen
It's. It's a. It's kind of a good cover story.
Tanner
It's a great cover story.
David Pen
Oh, my goodness gracious. And this is because. And you know, I'm Jewish. And I had this thing that happened this past week. I had a Jewish friend of mine called me up and he said, royce White, your friend is an anti Semite. And I said, you know, he's my friend. He can't be an anti Semite. Have you ever known any anti Semites? Because anti Semites don't pal around with Jewish people.
Tanner
Yeah, they'd be pretty bad anti Semites if you hung around with Jewish people.
David Pen
They wouldn't really be anti Semite. So what Royce is doing is he's drawing some attention to AIPAC and to the U.N. well, just this kind of support for Israel, which, you know, we can't even talk about it because if we do, we're anti Semitic. You can't even talk about American foreign policy. Boy, talking about walling off your ambitions and creating a safe space to pursue greater Israel without any oversight, without any comment, without any political discourse or dialogue, you know, and I was talking to this, this friend of mine, and he is a friend of mine. Well, now he's an ex friend because he. He actually told me to lose his phone number. And I said to him, why? And he goes, royce White? And I go, well, Royce White is a completely independent person for me, why don't you ask me what I think about Israel? And he hung up on me, and he doesn't ever want to talk to me again. And this is the kind of thing that I'm getting from Jewish people, as if Jewish people are some kind of hegemonic group. And this is why I want everyday citizens involved in politics. Because I don't think everyday citizens are all wound up about this issue. I don't think, you know, my next door neighbor, I mean, they might have opinions about Israel, you know, support pro or con, but I think they're concerned about taxes and safety and schools and economic freedom and religious freedom and food freedom and medical freedom, things that affect their lives. And when we get involved, everyday people, our frame of reference, what we want to talk about politically is not so global. It's local. But just because I have to just say to this ex friend of mine who has this hegemonic idea about the Jewish people, and this friend of mine doesn't speak Hebrew, doesn't read Hebrew, didn't grow up religious. I'm not criticizing him for this. This is not an unusual American Jewish experience. I know a lot of American Jews that eat bacon like ribs. Always cracks me up when I talk to a Jewish guy. Where you want to go for dinner? Now, of course, if I go out for dinner, I'm not keeping the rules of kosher anyhow, so I'm not being judgmental. I just think it's when you talk about being angry at God, when you. You say, let's go out for some good pork ribs, man. Well, Governor Huckabee, what do you think about that? Why don't you ask the rabbis, if a Jewish person eats pork, are they angry at God? I don't know the answer to that. It seems crazy to me.
Tanner
The whole conversation is, Huckabee, is he Jewish?
David Pen
No, he is an evangelical Christian.
Tanner
So he was just sitting there. To me, it just looked like he was kissing ass.
David Pen
I don't really know what he was doing there. That's why I said, I'm looking at the scene. I'm thinking, this is real.
Tanner
This is.
David Pen
Yeah, it just seems surreal. But just for. For the Jewish people that might be listening to me, and I just want to say this for the people in the Republican Party. There's a woman, for example, named Terry Nelson. She's an SD42. And there was just a meeting there. Royce went. Royce White went and spoke there. And I was gonna speak there. And then I was told, you can't speak. And I go, why is that? Well, there's a woman on the board there. Terry Nelson said that if David Pan speaks, I'm gonna get up and walk out, and I'm gonna quit. At least that's what was reported to me. Terry, we don't even know each other. We've never met. I couldn't recognize you in a lineup. I have no idea who you are. And yet you're spewing, as it came back to me, hatred for me. And I'm just going to share. For the people that love Kristen Robbins, you know, we're in a system. It's an energy system of the human will, and people express themselves politically. And I don't judge against you if you're a Kristen Robbins supporter or Kristen Robbins. I don't judge against her personally. I don't like her political background. That's my right. So when I put forth my energy in this fashion, I'm moving the needle to some degree. And when you push back on me, Terry, you're moving the needle to some degree on me. You wouldn't let me speak. But don't you think we should meet and have coffee first before you start to speak ill of me? Because we don't know each other and have you watched these podcasts and recognize how painstakingly careful I try to be about what I say and, and what I'm trying to do? And what I'm trying to do is empower American citizens to join the Republican Party. And I just said this to who? I can't remember. Oh, I had a short meeting with AK Kamara and I told ak, who's a national committee man, I said, ak, when I'm out working in the streets to organize my neighborhood, I don't ask people if they're President Trump's supporter or a Royce White supporter or an American nationalist, a Steve Bannon supporter. That's not my business. When I'm representing the party. When I'm representing the party, I want all people to join the party. Everybody. The left of the Republican Party, the right, the woke right of the Republican Party, the far nationalist mega group in the Republican Party. Everybody in. If you're Republican and you want to elect Republicans, I'm not there to keep you out. I'm going to help. I'm going to give you just as much time and energy to get you involved, no matter what you believe about Republicanism. But please join the party. And then we have a Democrat process in the party where we, the participants, vote to sort it out. Now, what I don't like is when the party puts its thumb on the scale and to get a predetermined outcome that it's seeking that I think is corrupt. I don't like that and I'm working against that. I, I want to straight up vote in the party so we can determine the party's future because we do have this fight in the party and I said to ak, you know, these people don't like me. Well, Kristen, let's say you win the endorsement and let's say you win the primary, I'm going to vote for you because you're a Republican. I'm a Republican, I vote for Republicans. Doesn't mean I like the kind of Republicanism that you are promoting. I don't. I'm working against it full blast. But when it comes down to being in that voting booth by myself, I'm not going to sit it out and vote for a Tim Waltz type character. No, we're going to work in our own house. We're working in our own house. People Say, why don't you criticize Democrats? There's plenty of time for that. And they almost don't need criticism. Their tomfoolery stands on its own. I'm interested in tomfoolery in my own party because I want to have a party that's honest. I'm trying to put down a cornerstone of honesty. Who you say you are is who you are, not who you say you are, as a cover up for what your career has been, as is the case with Kristen Robbins. But this Terry Nelson and SD42. You spoke ill of me, or at least it came back to me that you spoke. It's hearsay, Terry, So I don't know, but I'm inviting you out for coffee. I think it's like, Mary Amlo. Mary, could we go out for coffee? No, I'll never sit down with you. What? We're all in the system together. You tug in your direction, I'll tug in my direction, and at the end, we're going to come up with a better direction. Does anybody understand this is how politics works? That we have a cornucopia of ideas in the marketplace of ideas, and the best ideas prevail, and the ones that suck fall into the ashbin of history. And what I really hope falls into the ashbin of history is things like the Jews are the chosen people. Okay, you know, the Jews are the choosing people. Why do I say that? Well, number one, I'm Jewish. I'm Jewish, so I know I have to work on it every day. To choose to live under the shadow of the most High God, to abide in his way. Every time I sin, I'm choosing not to be with God. I'm choosing to separate myself from God. So Jewish, Christian, Muslim, whatever your faith is, it's an internal struggle to aspire to be holy. And that's what the Jewish people are supposed to be, is a. A holy people that are an example. Look at how short we fall, how short I fall. And I'm just going to redouble my efforts every day to try to be as appropriate internally as I can be. You're not going to know. I mean, you can't tell if I'm winning or losing. This week I'm losing. Maybe next week I'm winning. It's a battle that never ends. It's always an ongoing. Well, maybe it has an end point, either in my death, or maybe I come around the corner and. And I'm no longer drawn to be angry at God, as that we said in the Huckabee clip that people are angry at God are anti Semitic? Well, is it anti Semitic to sin? I mean, these are questions we got to ask ourselves. No, it's not anti Semitic when I sin, or if I question Israel's domestic and foreign policy, its military policy, or I question the validity or the viability of the Netanyahu government. I'm not.
Dr. Dennis Black
Greetings, naturopathy. Dr. Dennis Black here, founder of Rough Greens. And if only dogs could talk. I think a lot of them would say, hey, thanks for the love, but this food, it's not working for me. The truth is, they'd be right. Because most dog food, wet or dry, is cooked at such high temperatures that every live nutrient in it is destroyed. And what you're left with is. Is dead food bulked up with fillers and sprayed with artificial flavors. That's not what dogs need. But when you add back in the live vitamins, omega oils and antioxidants are in Rough Greens. Your dog would say something different. Like, they'd say, wow, this is delicious. Or sluggish dogs might say, hey, let's go for a walk. Older dogs might say, I feel like a puppy again. It's not magic, it's biology. Don't just imagine it. See it in your dog. I'll send you a free Jumpstart trial bag for your dog. You just cover the shipping. Go to ruffgreens.com use discount code talk. That's R U F F Greens Discount code talk. If your dog could only talk, they'd say, thank you.
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David Pen
Hmm, it's gotta be when I'm really craving it and it's convenient. Could you be more specific? When it's cravinient. Okay. Like a freshly baked cookie made with real butter.
Political Analyst / Commentator
A vegetable available right down the street at AM pm.
David Pen
Or a savory breakfast sandwich I can grab in just a second at AM pm. I'm seeing a pattern here. Well, yeah, we're talking about what I.
AM PM Advertiser
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David Pen
What more could you want? Stop by AM pm where the snacks and drinks are perfectly craveable and convenient. That's Cravenians ampm. Too much good stuff. Being anti Semitic, man, they've really walled themselves off a safe space to do whatever they want to do. Well, let's listen to something that's on the other side of the football. Please play number three.
Jewish Community Member / Commentator
That's why Zionism is opposed to Judaism. And never mind the fact that the Zionists violate the Jewish religion in all sorts of ways. The Very definition of a Jew according to Zionists is different than the definition of a Jew according to Judaism. All Zionisms. Instead of talking about the definition of Zionism, it's better to realize that every Zionism presupposes two things. The Jews are a nationality, not just the religion thing. Number two, Israel is the state of that nationality. What Japan is to the Japanese and France is to the French. Israel is to the Jews. And therefore, by the way, that's why Netanyahu and all of these guys say anti Zionism, has to be anti Semitism. This is coming from Benjamin Netanyahu. You cannot say I'm against the existence of the United States of America, but I want an American identity. You can't say I'm against the existence of France and say I want a French identity. So too, you can't say I'm against the existence of Israel and want a Jewish identity. Without Israel, it's like French without France, it's like the Japanese without Japan. Now the whole thing is baloney because the Jews existed way before Israel did. We exist now independent of Israel. There is no connection between the existence of the Jews, the identity of the Jews and the State of Israel. Yet the State of Israel wants to own Jewish identity to the point where Japan is to the Japanese what Israel is to the Jews. That's Zionism. It's the nationalization of Jewish identity.
David Pen
So I'm not alone. I mean, this. I don't know, this guy just stumbled across. I just stumbled across it this morning. He's obviously a Jewish dude, right? Looks Jewish, right? Got the beard, got the Yamakan, and he's holding a different opinion within the Jewish community. And does that make him. Do you think he was an anti Semitic? Was he acting anti Semitic? No, he didn't seem anti Semitic.
Tanner
He seemed like he was asking questions. That's all it was.
David Pen
Well, and I guess we're going to have to ask these questions. It takes a little bit of bravery. It's costing me friends. It's gotten me threatened. Okay, well, hey, I want to take this one more step. There's a lot of religious Jews when I was young that were very opposed to the state of Israel. In fact, most of the people I grew up with viewed Israel very suspiciously. Number one, because Zionism, well, if you look at the roots of it, it's socialism and it's not got anything to do with the religious or the religion of Judaism. It's a nationalist movement. Subsequent to the occupation of Jerusalem in 1967, the annexation. I think a lot of Religious Jews ran over to Israel because they didn't want to leave the holy sites in the hands of a bunch of non religious people. And there's been some kind of emerging and I have to be very forthcoming and say, I really don't understand it. I need to spend more time thinking about it, how the religious right has become so aligned with the Zionist project. Because it wasn't when I was young, when I was young, it was not that long after the Holocaust. And most of the people that I prayed with, not well, not most, but a very, maybe half, we prayed in a very tight, very orthodox community. A lot of people were survivors of the camps. A lot, lot. And these people were sufferers and their children who were also praying there. They were sufferers too. And the idea of suffering and being Jewish was wound into a punishment, a punishment that God had put upon the. Is the nation of Israel for its. In calcitrin. You know, Jewish people had. Or is, you know, the 12 tribes of Israel. There had been things that had been done that had violated God's, God's word for the Jewish people. And the Diaspora, the, the conquering of Israel and the dispersion of the Jewish people throughout the world was seen by the Jewish people. This is before Israel really became a force. I'm talking about the early 60s, that, that, that dispersion was seen as a punishment of a loving God that was chastising and reproving his people because he cared about our souls. And the suffering was part of that healing process. And I've suffered a lot in my life, and I don't reject suffering. And if you suffer a lot in your life, I'm going to urge you not to, you know, not to reject it, to embrace it. Because, you know, what's the alternative? I hate the fact that I'm suffering. That doesn't help you suffer until you're not suffering anymore.
Tanner
Yeah.
David Pen
And how are you gonna, how are you gonna get through it? You're gonna have to go through it to get to it, to get to the other side. And I think there's something about modern life, the new world order, the scientific method, which is related to Zionism in its own kind of weird way. Because if we think back about the story of Adam and Eve and the curse that, what's called the Adamic curse, God said to the woman, I will sharply increase your pain in childbirth. In pain you will bring forth children. Your desire will be for your husband and he will rule over you. Ladies. I get it. That's kind of a harsh curse.
Tanner
Yeah.
David Pen
Your desire will be for your husband and he'll rule over you. That's not very modern, is it? I get it, I get it. And then for men, I mean, men didn't get out of it. Men didn't get out of it all because you have listened to the voice of your wife and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you not to eat. Cursed is the ground because of you. Through toil you will eat of it all the days of your life, both thorns and thistles it will yield for you. And you will eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your brow, you will eat your bread until you return to the ground, because out of it you were taken. For dust you are. And to dust you shall return. Ouch. I've spent a whole life acquiring all these high end skills. I mean, I've been able to play violin at a professional level. I can play piano, I can sing, I'm highly trained physically, I'm good at business. Now I'm working on this career, I'm picking up all these skills and I look at myself in the mirror and, and I'm looking old to myself every day and I'm thinking, wow, all this work and poof, I'm gone to dust. I shall return. And you know, doesn't that make someone say to themselves, you know, if you're a woman, you'll cleave to your man and he'll rule over you. What a, what a bitter pill to swallow that is. That could lead to woman's liberation. That could be a, a weaponizable curse that somebody could say, wow, look at that. That can't be right. We could act going back to, we could be mad at God. We could say God didn't exist. We could say the whole thing is a scam because who wants to be ruled over and who wants to die? And is that not really wound into the core of the new world order? That the identities of blacks and Jews and women have been weaponized by my modernity to accomplish the purposes of modernity? And is not the scientific method? Is not science aimed at extending our longevity, nay, may I even say, making us immortal, creating something that is smarter than we are? Isn't that what this is all about? The period of time that we're living through? Well, in a very kind of similar way, Zionism. Because up until there was Zionism, and I want to remind everyone, Zionism started out as a Christian concept 50 years before there was Jewish Zionism. So you know, Zionism as a project, ooh, it bears Some historical investigation, but here's the Jews suffering all over the world without a homeland, discriminated against wherever they go. Maybe for reasons I don't know, not my people. We kept our head down, raised our families, tried to eke out a living and not cause any trouble. Hard to be hated when that's your strategy. That was our strategy. Could have been a post World War II strategy. I don't know. We're all culture bound, but Zionism pops up and says, no, we reject that suffering, we reject that homelessness, we reject being the butt end of every joke. We're going to organize politically, which they did. Jews can do it, Somalis can do it, but American citizens can't do it. The Jews got it done. They went from nothing. Now they got a homeland and 150 nuclear weapons in, I don't know, a couple hundred years. Pretty good work when you consider 5,000 year history, right?
Tanner
Yeah.
David Pen
Wow. They got organized. We just had Muhammad Ahmed in the Somali community organized. Why can't we get every single person in America involved in politics to save the country? If the Jews can do it to save themselves and the Somalis can do it, Are the Jews and the Somalis better than the Christians? I don't know. Got a Jewish group and a Muslim group. Now we got a Christian group. Can't organize, just wants to complain.
Tanner
It's like I, I think that it's not that like we don't have things, they're coming for our lives, but I think for those two groups, they have something recently that they've experienced as like a culture.
David Pen
A trauma.
Tanner
A trauma, yeah. It's like death has inspired them like a dog inspires a rabbit. And Americans, we've been protected from what we need to fear. There's a lot of people that, I mean, that's what I feel with the trans ideology, it's, that's a very luxurious worry that you think that the biggest thing you have to be concerned about right now is your gender identity. You've been sheltered from the real world. And so I think that's why it's so hard for Americans to get organized, is we haven't had that experience to inspire us like a dog does. A rabbit.
David Pen
Well, that's great. The dog and the rabbit. That could be the name of the next podcast because you know what? We're the rabbits, man. We're being hunted and our whole lifestyle is being hunted. Well, Zionism is not religious. It organized politically. It created a country, it created a military, and it's inflicting pain on Other people. Whereas to be Jewish was to suffer in silence internally between you and God. God's working on me to make me better, that I might be saved. So we, as a people, as a global people, as an American people, as Minnesotans, we're trying to throw off these Adamic curses as if there's no God. We must not believe it. Because, you know, if you're a woman, I get it. If you're listening to me and your woman, your husband's ruling over you. What kind of deal is that? And I'm going back to the dust. Wow. I get why people would reject this, but. And I get why people would reject the suffering, being Jewish and become Zionists and merge the Jewish identity with the nation of Israel, the modern state of Israel. I get it. It's a rejection of the suffering of human life. Well, that goes on all over. It's not just the Jews. It's not just you and me. This kind of identity thing is getting weaponized left, right, and center. And this is why I'm asking to get involved in politics, because we need a lot of people to cool off this energy. Let's play number two.
News Reporter / Correspondent
Wherever I go, God rules. When I walk on White House grounds, God walks on White House grounds. I had every right and authority to declare there, the White House as holy ground, because I was standing there, and where I stand is holy.
David Pen
To say no to President Trump would be saying no to God, and there. And I won't do that.
News Reporter / Correspondent
We are in a spiritual war right now. Let every demonic network that has aligned itself against the purpose, against the calling of President Trump. Trump, let it be broken. Let it be torn down in the name of Jesus. You want me to tell you what my thoughts are?
David Pen
The thoughts of the King of Kings, the thoughts of the Lord of Lords. I'm downloading heaven, speaking in tongues. President Trump is hanging around with this woman. She's a spiritual advisor, and she's an evangelical Christian, obviously speaking in tongues. And she is merging the identity of being an American with being an evangelical Christian, very similar to what the Jews have done with the nation of Israel. And is there any surprise that the evangelical Christians are the strongest supporters of the nation of Israel? You got that strange look on your face like you ate something that's making you sad.
Tanner
Oh, no. I was just listening to you. I saw a parallel with the video where she said, if you're not in support of Trump, then you're not in support of God.
David Pen
Isn't that interesting?
Tanner
That's an exact parallel to what we just reacted to.
David Pen
Right. And these are these two groups. The Evangelical Christians are the strongest base of support for Israel worldwide. So, you know, I'm not about being critical about this. I'm just putting it forth for your review. I know a lot of evangelical Christians are watching this. And I've said I spent a lot of time in the Evangelical Christian church myself, but I say I'm searching for truth. I'm trying to live a life where I'm trying to put sin underfoot in my own life, and I'm struggling with that. And there's a quiet confidence that comes when we all just stop sinning. And a lot of this display becomes a little bit less necessary now in the hardcore political. And I'm just going to talk about Minnesota because I'm well aware of it, because I live in it. We have a Republican Party here that prays before its meetings. And there is nothing holy about this party. This party is fractured. It's full of people that lie. And I'm sorry, if you're watching me, you know you don't like me saying it. Terry Nelson, Let me, let me just say that if you accept lies, outline is what you're going to get. If you demand the truth, the truth is what you're going to get. I'm demanding the truth. And I'll tell you there's a woman who's very involved in the Republican Party's name or her name. Her name is Vicki Ernst. She's down in Carver county and she runs a PAC down there called the Conservative American pac. I've been to some of their events. It's a very centrist, kind of Nikki Haley esque kind of a pack. At least that's my read of it. Vicki, I'm sorry, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see you as being a Royce White supporter or a President Trump supporter based on what I've seen of your crew in the past. And this group, the American, the conservative American Pack, is hosting a movie night, a drive in movie night on October 3rd. And they're going to play a movie called Government Gangsters, I guess. Who produced this, Tanner? Do you have any idea? No, that'd be Stephen K. Bannon. This is a Stephen K. Bannon joint. And so here is what I would consider a very anti Bannon, anti Royce White, nay, verily, may I say, an anti President Trump group. Now, I know there are people in the group that voted for Trump, but this is not a pro, mega, pro nationalist group. This is what you would call the core of the Minnesota Republican Party, which is not America First. It's just not. And they're actually using a Stephen K. Bannon movie to bring people together because that's where the energy is with the citizens. So we've got the hierarchy, the Tom Ammer hierarchy. And, Tom, you're always welcome to come on. I'm inviting you on. Wouldn't that be a bombshell? You could lift me up and you could explain to me why you really now support President Trump after not supporting him. And maybe you've had an epiphany. And if you had an epiphany, thank goodness. Maybe you want to apologize to me and the American people for lying about that debt ceiling raise in 2023, or explain to me why it happened. That's great, because you're clearly an impressive politician, and I hope you're an equally impressive human being. And we start searching for truth together, because here's this pack, which I know you know is in your backyard and is, I think, aligned with the kind of politics that you purvey. And it's using a Steve Bannon production. And all I can say is that's where the energy of the party is. That's where the energy of the Republicans in the street is at, and that's in the America first movement, the American nationalist movement. So go ahead, Vicki. Use Stephen K. Bannon. Promote for us, please. And if you come to the conclusion that American nationalism and the Professor Penn podcast, you know, this kind of politics is where we need to head to win. I voted for George W. Bush. See, my hand goes up. You know all you American nationalists out there that want to hate these people, I don't hate them because I was with them until one day I woke up and I said, wait a second. Wait, this is not true. There's no weapons of mass destruction in. Where's George W. Where's the weapons of mass destruction? I can't find them. He said they're not. Well, you know, Secretary Colin Paul stood in front of the United Nations. These people spawn a psyop that led us into a war that millions of people died in and trillions of dollars went down the rabbit hole. Come on, we can't be doing this. We have to build our politics on telling the truth. And that's why when you, a regular citizen, a person struggling to pay their bills, a person struggling to save money to send their kids to school, maybe you're struggling just to get a. A wife or a husband. We're struggling. The people that are struggling to make it Work. When we take the time to get involved in politics and bring our struggles, bring our suffering into the political process, we dilute the people that got $9 million in their 401ks and don't care about the everyday Americans, don't care about CD5, don't care about the shootings that happen there every day. We only care about the Annunciation shooting, which is awful. But what about what's going on every day? So please, if you're an American citizen in Minnesota or any other state, please get involved. How do you do it? Find your local committee. Every geographical area has a local committee. Find it, call the head person and just go and watch. You don't have to tell these people who you are as far as what you believe. You just have to say, I'm a Republican and I want to work to elect Republicans. And after all, isn't that what we all want to do? We don't want to elect communists. And for those of you who think I do, you can go bite a hog in the ass because I don't want to elect communists. I just don't want to elect Republicans that are in collaboration in cooperation with communists, as we're going to see very shortly. Now, I want to talk about Kristen Robbins one more time. I'm sure we'll talk about her again because every time I over lift up a rock, I go, wow, what's this? But I want to talk about a new friend of mine who I'm working with politically and he's running a organization called Minnesota first. J.K. cook. He's an activist here in Minnesota. And, you know, Jay kind of viewed me along the lines of this Terry Nelson rather suspiciously. I don't think he liked me very much. But Jay is an engineer and Jay is an evidence based guy. And, you know, he started watching the podcasts and he said, wow, Penn's laying out a case. He's just not talking, he's bringing the receipts. And he actually, you know, let me know that I'm shaking up his world, that he's, he's looking at things in a new way. I'm letting him see the lies. And, you know, once, once you see it for yourself, you don't need any help. If you're a researcher, I mean, you got to do your own work. And Jay let me know that I, I kind of rocked his world with the Kristen Robbins thing. And Jay, I'm sorry I'm using your name without asking you, but you're a model for everybody in the Republican Party in whatever state. See this hand. I voted for George W. Bush. Can you believe I voted for George W. Bush?
Tanner
I don't know. I wasn't alive when Bush was in office.
David Pen
Well, let me tell you something. You should say, yes, I do believe it, and I'm going to tell you why. He was the Republican on the ticket. He was fighting a guy named Al Gore. I'm always going to vote Republican. Where are the 250,000 Republicans that voted for President Trump but didn't vote for Royce White? You see, this bar door is not swinging both ways. The reason why Royce is talked about in the way he is by the party hierarchy is they don't want him as a leader of this party because he is going to topple the current leadership, which is really opposed to the America first movement. So I'm going to vote for the Republican. But you Republicans that are part of the establishment will not vote for Royce White or some of the other people that are emerging, like Steve Boyd, who are more, shall we say, America Firsters. But, you know, going back to this Kristen Robbins, I'm going to give you some more information, Jay, which you can look up first. You can look up, you can go online and you can find Kristen Robbins alumni profile at Bethel University. I'm sure Kristen will ask them to take it down, but you can find it. And you know, Tanner, you can put that link in the notes to this podcast.
Dr. Dennis Black
Greetings, Naturopathy. Dr. Dennis Black here, founder of Rough Greens. And if only dogs could talk, I think a lot of them would say, hey, thanks for the love, but this food, it's not working for me. The truth is, they'd be right. Because most dog food, wet or dry, is cooked at such high temperatures that every live nutrient in it is destroyed. And what you're left with is dead food bulked up with fillers and sprayed with artificial flavors. That's not what dogs need. But when you add back in the live vitamins, omega oils and antioxidants are in rough greens. Your dog would say something different. Like, they'd say, wow, this is delicious. Or sluggish dogs might say, hey, let's.
David Pen
Go for a walk.
Dr. Dennis Black
Older dogs might say, I feel like a puppy again. It's not magic. It's biology. Don't just imagine it. See it in your dog. I'll send you a free Jumpstart trial bag for your dog. You just cover the shipping. Go to ruffgreens.com use discount code talk. That's R U F F greens discount code talk. If your dog could only talk, they'd say, thank you.
Tanner
Description. Just go on down, you'll find the link for it.
David Pen
And they talk about her history and, you know, they talk about her being involved with the Economic Club of Minnesota. But you'll also find them talking about her sojourn at the center for Strategic and International Studies, the csis, a very prominent globalist organization. And why I say globalist because there's two kind of politics in the Republican Party. There's nationalism and globalism. And we got to know who these people are. And the nationalists can get easily sucked down the rabbit hole of we gotta win. And the globalists, like Vicki Ernst using Stephen K. Bannon's Government Gangsters movie to aggregate people. Hey, they'll use anything in a storm, you know, but they won't use Royce White. They could use Royce White to get into CD5 and work on the inner city community. But nah, nah, nah, we're not going to do that because Royce swears, for example, they don't like that he swears. But Mary Fransen's swearing up a storm now, isn't she?
Tanner
Yeah.
David Pen
See, things are changing. They're changing in the America first direction. And if you get involved in politics, go find that committee and go sit there and watch and learn. And when you're ready, join the committee. Become a precinct committee man. You know, this is just as simple as knowing the people in your neighborhood. And when it comes to election day, calling them and making sure they go vote, identifying the low propensity voters and getting them to the polls. If we do that, we win. Like Tanner was a low propensity voter. Now I think he's a high propensity voter.
Tanner
Oh, yeah, I'm showing up for any election I can.
David Pen
But let me ask you a question. Had you not stumbled into the Professor Penn podcast, do you think you'd be voting?
Tanner
I don't know. I don't think I would have. I think I probably would have fallen into the Christians that just went, well, God's got me. It's out of my control.
David Pen
And, you know, this is what I'm going to say to Dan Schultz. Dan, this is why we don't just talk about political strategy, because we got to build this audience, build this community, build a mighty wave of people that are going to work together to elect Republicans. But back to Kristen Robbins, whose career I want to see. And I'd like her to go back and work at one of these organizations which seem to want to hire her, like the Economic Club or she worked at the center for Strategic International Studies. Please Pop up number four. There it is. The looks very official. Could you please put up the board of Trustees and counselors? Click that link, go down. There it is. And we'll start scrolling through here. Let's start looking at these names and faces. Oh, look at these people. Keep going. So I keep going. Stop right there. There's Erskine Bowles, former elected official. Brendan Bechtel. Oh, there's a defense contractor. William S. Cone, used to be a defense secretary. Yes, Luperman, very wealthy. Let's go up a little bit farther. There's William Daly. He was the Chief of staff under, guess who? President Barack Obama. Ray Dalio, noted billionaire. Let's keep on going down. There's even more. There's more. There's former executive director Harriet For. Of unicef. UNICEF United nations, well represented here. There's Evan Greenberg of Chubb Insurance. Let's keep going. Keep scrolling. Wait, there's more. There's more. Who do we got on? Keep going. We're going to get to Paul Ryan here sooner or later. There he is. Paul Ryan. You see that smiling face? I used to think he should be president before I realized what a weenie he was. There's Leon Panetta. You see him up in the upper right hand corner, former Secretary of Defense, former Director of the CIA. I saw him. You know, when I last saw Liam Panetta, I was in the room with them. He was sitting there with Nikki Haley, and the two of them were discussing politics, hand in glove. Nikki Haley, Leon Panetta. But guess what? Leon Panetta, supposedly a Democrat, and Nikki Haley, supposedly a Republican. Yet they were conversing and agreeing about everything. How can that be? There must be some other description that works like, oh, I don't know, globalist and nationalist. There's Bob Schieffer, formerly of CBS News. Let's keep scrolling, see if any other happy faces pop up here. So this group of people are the trustees of this organization, the center for Strategic and International Studies, where Kristen worked at. Now, I wouldn't work with people like this. I wouldn't because I have principles. See, if you have principles, you don't hang around with people you don't agree with. And they're all entitled to their opinion. They're American citizens. I am not impugning these people personally. I'm saying, where are we, the everyday people? Because there's hundreds of millions of us and a handful of them, yet their political philosophy is prevailing because what are we doing? We're going to soccer on Saturday. I don't take that personal. But, you know, we Got other things to do. These people have one thing to do, which is bring about global governance. Now, who funds this organization? Well, let me tell you who the number one funder is. Oh, that'd be the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Kristen, you were working at an organization, and it's funded by Bill Gates. If you're an American firster or you don't really understand this and you're a Republican and you're just hating on me, how do you feel about Bill Gates? Is he a Favorite? How about Dr. Fauci? Are these favorites of yours? Because if they are, you're entitled to think that way, and that's cool. I don't think that way. And there's a lot of Republicans that don't. I think there's more Republicans in this country and in Minnesota that do not support Bill Gates. Then support Bill Gates. Here's the Carnegie Corporation. Look them up for a blast. The Dalio Foundation. The Ford Foundation. Oh, look at this. The Open Society Foundation. Supports the center for Strategic International Studies. Tanner, have you ever heard. Ever heard of the Open Society Foundation?
Tanner
No.
David Pen
You know who runs that? Who's that? Belongs to? Who? George Soros.
Tanner
Oh, nice.
David Pen
So here's Kristen Robbins working at an organization funded by George Soros. And look up the Sequoia Climate Foundation, Stanford University. Here's a communist organization to the Max the Tides Foundation. Here's a depopulationist group, the William Hewlett Foundation. The Henry Luce foundation is here. The John D. And Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation. I mean, this is. Who's funding this organization. You can go to this website, which Tanner will put the link in the notes to the podcast and then start looking up these organizations and their histories and what they're into. Harvard University funds it. They're at war with the Trump administration. International Labor Organization funds it. King's College of London funds it. The Rockefeller foundation funds it. Look up the history of the Rockefeller Foundation. Well, look at this. The center for Disease Control and Prevention. Hey, how you like that? Corporate donors include Amazon, Aramco, bank of America, Chevron Corporation, ExxonMobil. Oh, I'm sure these people are pro climate change, right? You know, these are the climate people. Chevron, ExxonMobil, FedEx. Here's a couple defense contractors. General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, north gman, Pratt, Boeing. Oh, here's Cargill, a nice Minnesota corporation. You know, this is an organization that's funded by globalist organizations. Beckdel, bae, Conoco, Phillips. How about countries? Can you imagine an organization funded by countries like the government of the United States? Government of Japan. Government of South Korea, Taiwan. Government Australia. Government Norway. Government of Qatar, Government of the United Arab Emirates or another funder. Listen to this. The United nations funds this organization.
Tanner
How can they. That's legal. It's very legal for an outside country to directly donate to a campaign that.
David Pen
Kristen. Not a campaign, an organization.
Tanner
Sorry.
David Pen
The csis, which Kristen Robbins worked for, allegedly, according to her Bethel University alumni bio, which may not be true. I mean, I have to be so careful. And I'm going to say, kristen, hey, if the bio is not right, come on the show and tell me about it. And you're going to say, well, I just had a job there. Well, you know, I don't think I'm going to get a job working for the Klux Klan. They hire people. Yeah, I don't think I'm going to work for the Klux Klan. I'm almost sure I'm not going to do that. Government of the United Kingdom. Oh, NATO threw in on this deal. North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Government of Canada, the government of France, Government of Germany, government of New Zealand, government of Netherlands, government of Philippines, Lithuania, Vietnam. You know what? These people are entitled to do this. Their interests are not my interests. I'm interested in medical freedom, food freedom, religious freedom, economic freedom. That's what I'm interested in, freedom. These people are into control and the organization of resources for their benefit. They are not looking out for me. They're looking to rule over me, and they are in charge of me. I am inventory in their economic model. And all we need to do to overcome this is go down to our local Republican Party meeting and start to vote. And when you do that, you become a delegate and then you say who the party endorses, and that means something. And let's start endorsing everyday people. Now, Kristen is going to say, and some of the people in the hierarchy are going to say, well, these people are not qualified. Like Vicki Ernst at the last state convention said Royce west was qualified with reservations. They had reservations about him. Why? I don't know why. And you know, who are you to say, Vicki, that you have reservations about Royce White? I don't think that's right. I don't think it's okay. I want everyday citizens. And why? Because these people that are at the center, the CSIS center, these people, look what they've done to the world. Look at the evidence. That's what I'm saying to Jay and to Terry Nelson and all the rest of you are listening. I don't want to fight with you. These People look at their outcomes like, you send your kid to school. Like, I got kids go to college, okay? It's expensive. 100 grand a year. You know, if you get Ds, I'm not paying for it. If you get Cs, I'm not paying for it. As a matter of fact, if you get Bs, I'm not paying for it. Because for that kind of money, you better go get an A. Okay? A minus, B plus. You got to show me you're working at it. Don't just have an experience. Right. You're going to send your daughter to school someday. You're going to pay for it. If she's getting Ds, probably not. Wouldn't that.
Tanner
If I can tell that she's screwing around and it's not her just trying her hardest but can't seem to pull a higher grade, I will probably stop paying.
David Pen
What if she's trying her hardest and she's getting a D? Maybe she doesn't need to be in college.
Tanner
Yeah.
David Pen
You know, look at what these people have done to our world. These governments and these curated people that are so experienced, so educated. Look at the outcome. With $37 trillion in debt, war, my entire lifetime, all kinds of systemic problems throughout our culture. Man, it's just awful. Tanner, can you please play number six?
Tanner
Yeah.
NBC News Correspondent
At a fractious time for the world, this was quite the statement. A collection of powers convened by China, part of what some are calling a new axis of upheaval. One by one, leaders lined up to greet President Xi, 26 in total. But there was no question of about who was the guest of honor here. Vladimir Putin got a lingering conversation, a right hand position for the pictures. It felt a bit like the others were simply trailing along as they headed on in to have dinner. But the welcome banquet was also designed to place the host front and center. His vision as well as his message. His guests listening on.
David Pen
Guided by the Shanghai spirit, let us.
Dr. Dennis Black
Set out again from Tianjin and embark.
Indian Official / Commentator
On a new and promising journey towards a brighter future.
NBC News Correspondent
Putin's presence will be the headline grabber here. His war in Ukraine drags on, so does his reluctance to make peace. China clearly still has his back, but for the host, this summit is wide, reaching a forum to discuss security, a platform to promote its credentials. It is only day one of what is going to be a huge week here in China. But for many here, it will already be seen as a success. China is showing the world that it has the ability to convene nations, it has the ability to provide global leadership. And it has the ability to provide alternatives at a time where many see America as increasingly unreliable. And if there was ever proof that that strategy is working, it is this. The presence of India's Narendra Modi. They share a bitter border dispute, intense regional rivalry, and lately a distaste for Donald Trump and his tactics.
David Pen
Based on.
Indian Official / Commentator
Mutual trust, respect and sensitivity. We are committed to take our relations forward.
NBC News Correspondent
Trump has levied tariffs of 50% on India. They say he is the reason they're here.
Jewish Community Member / Commentator
With Donald Trump coming in and telling.
David Pen
Us who we should be friends with.
Jewish Community Member / Commentator
And how we should be conducting our business, and with whom should we be.
David Pen
Conducting our business, I think he has created an impetus for us to look for other friends and cultivate relationships that.
Jewish Community Member / Commentator
We might not have been keen, keen on repairing.
NBC News Correspondent
A cultural show rounded off the evening. Soft power tactics to mask a rock hard political message about China and its ability to lead.
David Pen
Well, that was meant for you and me. That was quite a show. And there is a growing alliance amongst the victims of colonialism. That's what these countries have in common. They were victims of European colonialism, many of them, and they're coming together and they're organizing what they believe will be a multipolar world. And wouldn't it be great if we were all involved in politics and we sent to these meetings, or we were. We the people were part of these meetings, either in our presence or in our lack of presence. And that everything that we did politically was for the good of everyday citizens, not for the defense contractors and the other large multinational corporations which these politicians actually represent. They don't work for us, don't work for me. They could if we all get involved in politics, but until we all get involved in it, these people are acting like they care about us. Here's what they care about is power. Please play number seven.
News Reporter / Correspondent
The military parade provided rare insight into the range of weapons now powering China's People's Liberation Army. Including hypersonic missiles that could threaten US ships, Japan, giant lasers to blind pilots and underwater drones that look like submarines. The show of power and precision was highly choreographed for the cameras, with over a billion people watching on television here and 50,000 spectators right there in Tiananmen.
David Pen
Square.
News Reporter / Correspondent
Who cheered when nuclear capable missiles and launchers went past in batches on trucks. The first ever show of its nuclear triad, all of it providing clues about how China and the PLA see the future of warfare. The PLA today is a force that is starting to be regarded and starting to regard itself as a near peer, if not a true peer to the US Military. Should that scare US Military leaders? I think there are reasons to be concerned about the competitive challenge.
Political Analyst / Commentator
Challenge.
News Reporter / Correspondent
The exhibit showed a focus on naval power. Already China is estimated to have the largest program of uncrewed underwater vehicles. It's also developing unmanned aircraft known as loyal wingmen that will use AI to fly alongside fighter jets.
David Pen
Drone is a different kind of warfare. I think it is not a secret that the US Is trying to make best use of AI in modern warfare and in China worldwide, the same thing.
News Reporter / Correspondent
As much as weaponry. The parade was a show of China's ambitions to recast a world order dominated by the US with an eastern led alliance. Images of Xi Jinping flanked by the leaders of Russia, North Korea, Iran and nearly two dozen others sending a not so subtle message. In his speech, Xi said China is a great nation that is never intimidated by bullies. The flurry of meetings, after all, rich in symbolism too. Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un needing legitimacy and finding it here in Beijing. The optics that China may be seizing a moment has ignited patriotism across Chinese social media.
David Pen
The September 3rd parade wasn't just a show of force, it was a strategic declaration.
News Reporter / Correspondent
Weibo alone logged 20 billion views about the parade, with comments declaring national pride.
David Pen
Whenever a disaster strikes. People feel so safe when PLA showed.
News Reporter / Correspondent
Up and confidence about what it means for unification with Taiwan. Beijing claims the self governing island as its territory and hasn't ruled out using force forced to take it. What's driving those ambitions? What is the end game? So I'd say that the question of Taiwan has been a driver for the PLA's pursuit of much more expansive and significant capabilities. And of course, the US Military is regarded as a major factor and if not the primary obstacle, the US Is still widely seen as having the military edge shaped over decades of tried and true conflict experience. But all along the avenue, here are signs that a rival force is emerging, one that is largely untested but being built to win. Janice Mackie Freyr, NBC News, Beijing.
David Pen
That's just great, isn't it? Good reason to be involved in politics. Got to defend ourselves. But let's remember we are offensive. President Trump just changed the Department of Defense to the Department of War. Being honest about it, yeah, you know, let's just be up front. It's the Department of War defense got very little to do with it. We are offensive and of course that's bringing about a counter reaction throughout the world and we're going to have to be strong at home. But I think if our politics really reflected an inward turn where we were concerned about our own citizens and the well being of every American, I think that would be mirrored throughout the world. We are still the center of everything that goes on. When I say we, I mean we the people. So what we think, what we do, the politics we pursue affects everything. And when we pursue a time worn globalist, America's the policeman, hegemonic ruler of the world policy, we get resistors because what country wants to be ruled over? They don't. And right in the middle of this thing when China's flexing, we announced, we the people announced that we're going to deploy controversial Typhon missile systems to Japan for the first time. These are medium range nuclear capable missiles that not very long ago were banned under a treaty which has now been, for lack of a better word, canned. And now we have this new medium range missile technology being deployed throughout the world. These Japan based Typhon missiles can strike both Russia and China. They're nuclear capable. Hey, you know, it's not like we're walking off the stage here. We're doubling down. And then we got Israel. Let's play number eight, please. This is an APAC short about Republicans and Democrats visiting Israel.
Tanner
I'm Tom Emmer, the House Majority Whip.
David Pen
In the US Congress, and I'm with.
Dr. Dennis Black
My friend Pete Agalar from the Democrats leadership.
David Pen
We're spending a little time here. So here, here's two groups, the Democrats and Republicans, that for all intents and purposes hate each other on every issue.
Dr. Dennis Black
Greetings, naturopathy. Dr. Dennis Black here, founder of Rough Greens. And if only dogs could talk, I think a lot of them would say, hey, thanks for the love, but this food, it's not working for me. The truth is they'd be right. Because most dog food, wet or dry, is cooked at such high temperatures that every live nutrient in it is destroyed. And what you're left with is dead food bulked up with fillers and sprayed with artificial flavors. That's not what dogs need. But when you add back in the live vitamins, omega oils and antioxidants are in rough greens. Your dog would say something different. Like they'd say, wow, this is delicious. Or sluggish. Dogs might say, hey, let's go for a walk. Older dogs might say, I feel like a puppy again. It's not magic, it's biology. Don't just imagine it, see it in your dog. I'll send you a free Jumpstart trial bag for your dog. You just cover the shipping. Go to roughgreens.com use discount code talk. That's R U F greens Discount code talk. If your dog could only talk, they'd say thank you.
David Pen
Except they're friends when they go to Israel. Let's think about that. Continue please in Israel to show our support and to learn new members who many are coming to Israel for the very first time, helping them understand the special relationship between the United States and Israel.
Dr. Dennis Black
It's really important for us to be here so we can focus on how the US can work with Israel in a mutually beneficial way to counter our adversaries.
David Pen
I think Americans need to understand how protection fraught that situation potentially can be for the region and particularly for the state of Israel. The quiet resurgence of some of the extreme elements who have been engaged in jihad.
Political Analyst / Commentator
We've looked at the aftermath of October.
David Pen
7Th in some locations.
Tanner
We went down and visited some of the Kabbuzzas that were attacked.
David Pen
We heard from some of the victims that day. It is really heart wrenching and devastating to see see what took place here. To hear from people that endured that day. It's just remarkable. And to see that they actually want to go back and rebuild is so inspiring. A bipartisan group of lawmakers from the United States met with Eli, brother of Eviatar David.
Tanner
Eli wants his brother home and he.
David Pen
Asked for our help. Throughout this entire trip we've learned just how imperial narrative the US Israel relationship is. Been a great trip, an opportunity to everything from meet the Prime Minister to tour some of the Israeli defense facilities.
Political Analyst / Commentator
The Israelis, including the Prime Minister, indicated how important it was to get food.
David Pen
To people who were hungry. These trucks and containers behind us right.
Jewish Community Member / Commentator
Now are going both to the west bank and to Gaza.
David Pen
But the to provide essential nutrition, medical supplies.
News Reporter / Correspondent
I'm so glad that the United States.
David Pen
Is an ally of Israel.
News Reporter / Correspondent
It's a country that we need to stay.
David Pen
That's Representative Harriet Hagman from Wyoming. She replaced Liz Cheney there in Wyoming, but she's folded right into the group. Please continue. Very close to to understand things from 5,000 miles away is love harder to do.
Political Analyst / Commentator
So I'm appreciative to be here with.
David Pen
Colleagues and try to come up what.
Political Analyst / Commentator
We hope be the right public policies.
David Pen
That will support Israel and support freedom across the world. We're so grateful to AIPAC for doing this trip.
Dr. Dennis Black
It's a great piece of education at.
David Pen
A really important time in history. And so we continue in that spirit and in that friendship, coming together Democrats and Republicans in support of our friends and colleagues and allies in Israel. This kind of Politics is coming to an end in the United States, and this doesn't mean I'm anti Israel, certainly not anti Semitic. But we, we as older people that are still in power positions, we have to understand that young people are not down with this. Tanner, can you second that emotion?
Tanner
Yeah, Yeah, I can. We are not done with this. It's just more so, like, cool. It's awesome that you guys can get along. But then who's the benefit for that? That's Israel. What about us Americans? You guys come home and then you sit and argue and you can never agree or even work with each other.
David Pen
But we all agree on this.
Tanner
We all agree on this. Regardless of how you feel about Israel, if it, like, if Israel was the perfect country ever, still my feelings would be the same. Israel's getting the benefit of this, and then you guys come home and you don't give us your best.
David Pen
Right? So, you know, this is something that's just grown in the country. But I really played this because of the public relations effort made to cast Israel as distributing food and medicine to the needy people on, in Gaza and on the West Bank. Well, let's play number nine and listen to President Trump and the leader of Great Britain, Prime Minister Starmer, talk about this.
Political Analyst / Commentator
We also discussed, obviously, Gaza. And I think before we get to phase two, which is, you know, what's going to happen afterwards. We want to get the children fed. It's amazing it's not being handled a little bit differently. We're going to set up food centers, and we're going to do it in conjunction with some very good people, and we're going to supply funds. And we just took in trillions of dollars. We got a lot of money, and we're going to spend a little money on some food.
David Pen
Next time you speak to Netanyahu, what will you ask him to do?
Political Analyst / Commentator
Well, I'm going to say, look, we're giving money and we're giving food, but we're over here and we're over in the United States. And I think I can speak for the Prime Minister. We're giving money and things. He's got to sort of like, run it. Well, I want them to make sure they get the food. I want to make sure they get the food. Every ounce of food. I think you want the same thing because that food isn't being delivered. Is yours a lot of responsibility?
David Pen
Did you hear what President Trump said? Did you hear what he said? What did you hear him say?
Tanner
That it is being delivered?
David Pen
Why don't we play it again? I think he's saying it's not being.
Political Analyst / Commentator
Delivered because that food isn't being delivered.
David Pen
Isn't being delivered. So we've got this AIPAC piece, which is a giant public relations effort to show the distribution of food and medicine, and the President of the United States, the Prime Minister of Great Britain, are sitting together in harmony and saying the food is not being delivered. That's what you heard, isn't it?
Tanner
Yeah.
David Pen
Okay, so you can see that there is an infowar around this issue, and that's why I played that AIPAC piece. Let's continue with President Trump and the Prime Minister of Great Britain.
Political Analyst / Commentator
Possibility they're hampered by the fact that you still have 20 hostages or so.
Indian Official / Commentator
Yeah, I would say, look, we need to get the hostages out. They've been held for a very, very long time, and we must always start from there. But also recognize the situation on the ground in Gaza is absolutely intolerable. And I think that, certainly, speaking for the British part and myself, seeing those images of starving children in particular are revolting. And there's a sense of revulsion in the British public at what they're seeing. And they know, and we know that humanitarian aid needs to get in at speed, at volume. There needs to be much more of that. We need to galvanize other countries in support of getting that aid in. And, yes, that does involve putting pressure on Israel, because it absolutely is a humanitarian catastrophe.
David Pen
Interesting that we have a info war over a humanitarian catastrophe. There's a US Special envoy in the Middle east, his name is Tom Barrack, and he had a very impactful interview with new media. He was on a podcast, and he made a stunning statement. Israel sees the Sykes Picot borders as meaningless. They will go wherever they want to go. That is quite a statement by an American diplomat. We've talked about Sykes Picot before. It was a secret agreement between the British and French which partitioned the Middle east at the end of the Ottoman Empire around the time of World War I. That was in 1916. And that agreement drew the map that gave us Lebanon and Syria and ultimately Palestine, which became Israel, for example, and Jordan also. And Barak is saying, no, Israel's not doing that. They're going to do whatever they want to do. So that is the concept of Greater Israel. And this is something that we have to look at and say, do we support it? Do we not support it? We're supporting it because whatever Israel does is great. And if you question Israel, you're anti Semitic. For example, Secretary of State Marco Rubio signaled this past week that the United States will not oppose the annexation of the occupied West Bank. That's kind of a bombshell. And if you can pop up that picture, there's a little map there with some yellows. You see that? The yellow is the areas that Israel is alleged to intend to leave for the Palestinians. Those are six cities that have very great populations of Palestinian people. Ramallah, Nablus, Janin, Telkaram, Jericho and Hebron. They're going to leave those cities in the hands of the Palestinians. But the rest of the area in green, that's going to become annexed, and that is part of creating a Greater Israel. Not necessarily Greater Israel, which has its own meaning, but a Greater Israel, a greater territory. The United Arab Emirates, which was the first Arab country to join Israel in the Abraham Accords. They have warned that the annexation of the west bank is a red line which will lead the UAE to withdraw from the Abraham Accords. So we got a lot going on over there which we're not supposed to talk about.
Tanner
Yeah. So just so I understand this, that green area here right now is occupied by Gaza people.
David Pen
It's occupied by Palestinian people. That's not Gaza. That's called the West Bank.
Tanner
Okay, my bad.
David Pen
And that is the area that has been targeted to become part of the two state solution that was supposed to become a Palestinian state nation.
Tanner
Yeah, A whole green area.
David Pen
A whole green area.
Tanner
Okay.
David Pen
And at the next United nations meeting of the General assembly, which will be in the fall, many European countries have said that they're going to come out in support of the two state solution. France is one, Australia is another. Western countries aligned allegedly with the United States. And in response to that movement to recognize a two state solution, at the United Nations, Israel said, hey, Sykes, bi Cope. We're just going to take it. It's ours. Can you stop us? Can anybody stop us? And you know, as a matter of fact, nobody can. The idf, the Israeli Defense Forces are now moving into Gaza City. That is the last bastion of Palestinian population in Gaza. And they are out to destroy Hamas. And they're not kidding around. We have already begun the ground operation in Gaza, according to General Ayal Zamir, who's in charge of it. We will not stop the war until we defeat this enemy. So on and on it goes. On and on it goes. If we can't talk about it without being labeled as anti Semites, if we can't talk about what's going on in our family courts without being misogynistic, if we can't talk about what's happening in our inner cities without being racist. If we can't talk about these things, boy, we sure have stifled any kind of meaningful dialogue that could lead us to better solutions just because things have been stuck. Have you ever been stuck in your life?
Tanner
Yeah, multiple times.
David Pen
But it resolves at some point, right?
Tanner
It always works.
David Pen
I think the same thing happens in history. We get stuck. We've been stuck on this thing since 48, and it. It seems insoluble. But if we keep working at it, you know, solutions may emerge. And I pray that I am blessed with the ability to see something that would allow me to present something that would be novel. The novel thing I'm working on right now is let's just start telling each other the truth, or at least what we think the truth is. Let's not intentionally hide who we are, hide our ambition, hide what it is we believe as it is in the case to Kristen Robbins. Kristen Robbins may be a fine person. I don't know her. But her political Persona and her past history are not in congruence. And when I see that, I'm going to call it out. It's not that I'm against the Republican Party. I'm not even against Kristen Robbins. I'm in support of the truth. So Kristen Robbins wants to come out and explain why she spent a good part of her professional career working for globalist organizations, but now says she's a soccer mom concerned about the same things I'm concerned about. Maybe she is. She can come on and explain it. Yeah, you're more than welcome, Kristen, to explain, to square that circle, how can you be involved with globalists, the wealthiest people in the world working for the most major globalist organizations, and then show up and you're a soccer mom and you're concerned about Minnesotans? I don't think so. But you're welcome to come on and. I mean, I'm very limited. Maybe you can explain it to me and I'd love you to do so. So have your people call. We'll get you on right away.
Tanner
Plus, wouldn't it be like, a cool concept if, like, we were just. We were wrong and she came on and laid out the receipts and explained her side of it, and then we were friends.
David Pen
I'm saying that I could be wrong. I'm saying it about Tom Hammer, too.
Tanner
I'm saying how cool it would be to have someone actually come and talk to us, give us your point of view. So then, I don't know. I want to be friends with these people. I don't want to be mad at them, you know?
David Pen
Well, I'm not mad at them and I'm not friends with them, but I'm not mad at them in the sense that I don't hate them. Yeah, it's not personal. I don't dislike anybody I meet in the Republican Party. A couple people I've disliked, but they're particularly highness. There's a few of them, but the, the, the majority of the people, even if they're. A lot of these people that are in the Republican Party, don't even understand what globalism means. You know, it's like my friend Jay, I mean, he's just figuring it out for the first time. It's like I didn't know what was going on. I stayed up all night when the US military stormed across Iraq on the way to Baghdad. I had friends in those tank columns. I was so fired up, you know, I was fired up. It's not that long ago. It's 22 years ago. So, you know, somewhere along the road I said, whoa, wait a second. Where are those weapons of mass destruction? How can that be? Why is my longevity in decline? But we're spending more money for health care than any other country per capita in the world. Why are we gathering to righteously mourn the deaths of young Catholics? But every day somebody gets shot in the inner city and nobody says a word about it. Why are these things? Why are these things. Why is the Republican Party abandoned the core cities in Minnesota, in every state, you know, you start looking at this stuff, you go, come on, we can do better than this. I can do better than this. I am better than this. I'm going to search for truth. And I'm asking you to do the same thing. I'm not asking you to hate people. How are we going to ever unify if we hate each other? You know, Terry, how are you going to unify with me if you hate me? Can't even let me speak. Can't even let me speak or you'll walk out. You. Am I really that controversial or. What I'm really interested in is medical freedom, food freedom, economic freedom, religious freedom. Those are the things I think that's going to bring us together, and we can't talk about that. I don't think some of these other issues we get tied up in are going to unify us. I think they are divisive by design. By design. Like our debt. $37 trillion in debt. And I'm looking online and I'm watching people run down these tariffs, run them down like Trump's an idiot. No, we're going broke. He had to put in some extra revenue somehow anyhow, or we were going to lose our currency. And that was going to usher in a whole new, brave new world for all of us. And, well, guess what happens. Companies sued and said the tariffs, the reciprocal tariffs are illegal. And a circuit court of appeals just ruled a couple weeks ago, seven to four, that in fact, these tariffs are illegal, unconstitutional. They need to be stopped. They're still in place because the court knows that this is a process and we're waiting to see. President Trump has now appealed to the Supreme Court to make a ruling on this. Now, allegedly, we have a 6 to 3 conservative court, but two of those court members, John Roberts and Amy Comey Barrett, vote frequently with the left. So I don't know how this appeal to the high court's going to turn out on these reciprocal tariffs. I do not know. In fact, the court may choose not to take it up, which means the tariffs are going to come off. These tariffs come off. The budget deficit is staggering. Staggering. And I'm going to say to all the people out there who I see running down these tariffs, propose your budget cuts. I mean, if we can't raise more revenue, we're going to have to cut spending. If we can't raise more revenue, we can't cut spending. And we keep going down the road we are on. The country is going to go bankrupt. That doesn't mean the country is going to go away. It means that your collateral is going to be foreclosed on. Tanner, do you know what the collateral is on the debt?
Tanner
Real property.
David Pen
Your freedom.
Tanner
Oh, boy.
David Pen
That's the collateral. Our political system is the collateral, the full faith and credit of the American people.
Tanner
So then you're saying I would like. Are you saying that I would be a slave to the Federal Reserve?
David Pen
Then you got to pay the bill, baby.
Tanner
Okay.
David Pen
Bank gets paid.
Tanner
All right.
David Pen
Okay. We're already a slave. And it would be even more intense because it would be an accelerated process of repayment. And you know the markets, which just when the tariffs came on just a few months ago, the markets tanked and went nuts. Now the markets are saying, wait a sec, wait a sec. No court case. These tariffs are indispensable to the financial health of the American people. Wow. Isn't that interesting? Tariff revenues are way up already year to date. This year, we've collected twice as much as we did last year. And the full reciprocal tariffs are not even really going to be in effect until October. This is a huge money revenue raiser. Probably 6 to 800 billion a year. It squares the circle on the national deficit. It'll make the next 10 years revenue neutral or even pay down the debt if we could ever get to the necessary spending cuts. Our problem is not revenue. Our problem is we are all government dependent. I personally am not, but that is because I am a Republican. A Republican believes in personal sovereignty. If I'm a king or queen of my own life, how can I be on the take? That's something for Republicans to think through. I mean, Democrats, hey, they're Democrats. The whole idea is to tax everybody and have socialism. That's their political philosophy. Which by the way is prohibited in the Constitution. Maybe we'll get there someday. But as a Republican, as a believer in Republicanism, I believe I'm responsible for my own health, my own wealth, my own well being, the well being of my family. I'm into taking care of myself. I don't want government involved in my life. I'm a sovereign of my own life. That's Republicanism. And if you want to fight for that, you got to get into the Republican Party. Because about half the members of the Republican party don't believe that a la Kristen Robbins. No, no. They're looking for government solutions to our problems. I don't think that's going to work. And why would I say that? Well, that's because I've been watching this. This really picked up speed in 1964 when Lyndon Johnson created what's called the Great Society, also known as the welfare state. Life's not gotten better over the course of my lifetime. It's gotten worse for the majority of citizens. For a small group of citizens, the ones that benefit from a financialized information based society. Oh, they're kicking it. And guess what? Those people run the Republican Party. Guess what? Those same people run the Democrat Party. The whole thing is a scam. Until you and I simply get off the couch and get into the game of politics, that's it. That's all we have to do to bring the everyday perspective that is so sorely needed into our political process. You and I are the most important people in this country. We are the citizen sovereigns of this nation should we choose to exercise our power. So glad that we were able to get together. I'm trying to be a searcher for truth. 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Tanner
Have a good night, everybody.
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Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: David Pen (Professor Penn)
Guest/Co-host: Tanner
Date: September 10, 2025
Episode: 237
Theme: Exposing “globalist” influence in American politics, the importance of grassroots involvement, and the intersection of religion, nationalism, and political identity in America.
This episode centers on the fragility of American republicanism amid globalist influences, the blurring of religious and national identity, and the urgent need for ordinary citizens to reclaim influence in politics. Professor Penn critiques establishment figures, “globalists” like Kristen Robbins, and highlights the risks of a disengaged populace. He also delves deeply into U.S.–Israel relations, antisemitism, Christian nationalism, and the weaponization of identity politics—all while advocating for honest, open discourse and local political activism.
"When people have histories that are globalist histories…they are American citizens. If they want to believe in globalism and the end of the republic as their political modus operandi, they have every right…but we the people have every right to figure out who they are and send them along their way." (02:40)
“None of this means anything to me personally unless I get you involved in politics. My freedom depends on it.” (05:22)
"If you criticize the Jewish people, you’re angry at God. Boy, that is some political cover right there." (08:36)
“Zionism pops up and says, no, we reject that suffering, we reject that homelessness…we’re going to organize politically, which they did. Jews can do it, Somalis can do it, but American citizens can’t?” (30:56)
"Isn't that interesting? That's an exact parallel to what we just reacted to." – Tanner (36:00)
"We have a cornucopia of ideas in the marketplace of ideas, and the best ideas prevail... I hope falls into the ashbin of history things like ‘the Jews are the chosen people’... the Jews are the choosing people." (16:22–17:42)
"I'm not asking you to hate people... How are we going to ever unify if we hate each other?" (85:50)
The episode is passionate, unfiltered, and at times confrontational—mixing personal anecdotes with sharp political analysis. Professor Penn’s rhetoric is direct, sometimes humorous, often pointedly critical of both establishment figures and broader “globalist” trends. He balances critique with invitations to dialogue, self-reflection (“I could be wrong!”), and repeated calls for unity among ordinary Americans.
This episode of The Globalist with Professor Penn is a trenchant, sometimes sprawling exploration of the struggle between globalism and nationalism—anchored in the host’s urgent belief that only active, honest, everyday citizens can rescue American republican governance. The show is at its strongest when challenging establishment narratives and urging constructive, grassroots participation, with a message that honesty and unity, not factionalism, are the antidote to elite misrule.
For anyone wanting to understand current debates about globalism, U.S.–Israel relations, and the internal rifts in the American right—from a fiercely populist, nationalist perspective—this episode is essential listening.