Joni Table Talk – December 14th, 2025
Podcast: Real America’s Voice (iHeartPodcasts)
Host: Joni Lamb
Main Guests: Kimberly and Andrew Har, Nicole C. Mullen
Episode Theme: Healing from Life’s Deepest Hurts: Stories of Trauma, Survival, and Redemption
Original Air Date: December 14, 2025
Episode Overview
This powerful episode of Joni Table Talk centers on stories of deep trauma, faith, and the resilience of the human spirit through God’s restorative power. The featured guests share firsthand experiences with abuse, betrayal, near-death moments, and the journey from devastation to true redemption—offering hope to anyone walking through pain, brokenness, or hardship. Drawing upon their personal testimonies and biblical wisdom, the guests discuss the process of healing, rebuilding trust, and finding purpose after tragedy. The episode also features a segment with Grammy-nominated artist Nicole C. Mullen, who shares her music and story of overcoming abuse, using biblical sheroes as inspiration.
Key Segments & Discussions
1. Introduction: Previewing Kimberley and Andrew’s Redemption Story
[03:05–03:54]
- Joni Lamb introduces today’s focus: surviving life's deepest hurts and God’s power to restore life after trauma.
- The table is set for a gripping, movie-like testimony involving betrayal, domestic violence, and miraculous survival.
Memorable Quotes:
- “When your life completely falls apart, is it really possible to be whole again? …Our guest walked through abuse, trauma, and a near-death experience. And they're here to share their miraculous story of redemption…” – Joni Lamb [03:05]
- “It’s amazing what God can bring you through when you think there’s no way.” – Joni Lamb [03:57]
2. Kimberly’s Journey: From Faithful Beginnings to Heartbreak
[05:03–07:40]
- Kimberly Har was raised in a Christian home and married a Christian man; they lived an upright, church-centered family life.
- Several years into marriage, she discovered her husband’s habitual struggle with pornography and sexual addiction, which escalated over time.
- Despite repeated forgiveness and attempts at counseling, unfaithfulness culminated in an affair. After 23 years of marriage and four children, Kimberly decided to divorce.
Memorable Quotes:
- “I did not want to divorce and our kids go between homes. So I made the decision to forgive and forgive and forgive again. But I didn’t have good boundaries...God doesn’t want us in relationships where there’s continual betrayal.” – Kimberly Har [06:36]
3. Rebuilding & New Beginnings: Becoming a Therapist and Finding Andrew
[07:46–12:10]
- While raising her children as a single mom, Kimberly went back to school and became a therapist, intending to offer hope to others.
- Four years later, feeling led by God that she would remarry, Kimberly navigated online dating—enduring 13 unremarkable first dates before meeting Andrew (#14).
- Their first date was over coffee and breakfast; both recalled easily connecting through deep conversation—though, as Andrew humorously notes, he’s “an engineer type” and less demonstrative.
Highlights:
- “Where does a 50-year-old woman go to meet people? …I decided I was going to join a dating site.” – Kimberly [08:52]
- “We dated for four weeks, and he told me, ‘I want to marry you,’ but it wasn’t a question, so I wasn’t going to embarrass myself and say yes. So I just smiled. But we knew.” – Kimberly [12:44]
4. Trauma Strikes: Domestic Violence and a Near-Fatal Shooting
[13:00–21:01]
- After four weeks of dating Andrew, Kimberly’s ex-husband, jealous and spiraling, attacked her violently at gunpoint—assaulting her for four hours after breaking into her home, and threatening to kidnap and kill Andrew.
- Forced at gunpoint, Kimberly was taken to Andrew’s home where her ex-husband shot Andrew ten times through a closed door and fled.
- Kimberly escaped, bloodied, to seek help and call 911; Andrew was left fighting for his life.
Memorable Quotes:
- “At 2:30, I woke up to my bedroom door crashing down…My ex-husband was intoxicated. He had a gun in his hand. And for the next four hours, I was assaulted.” – Kimberly [14:07]
- “I was struck 10 times with .45 caliber hollow point bullets.” – Andrew [16:54]
- “I was more upset about him [Andrew] than I was anything that happened to me that morning.” – Kimberly [20:18]
5. Survival, Hospitalization, and the Difficult Early Days of Recovery
[21:01–24:07]
- Andrew suffered massive blood loss and underwent at least 13 surgeries, while Kimberly was left deeply traumatized and physically battered.
- Their respective adult children and families managed communication and recovery, initially keeping them apart for healing.
- Kimberly describes finding solace in worship and laying her trauma before God.
Quote:
- “I just laid down on that cement floor and I just wept…would you just sing over me and breathe life back into my body? Because I felt like such an empty shell.” – Kimberly [21:13]
6. Reconnection, Engagement, and Moving Forward
[23:17–26:44]
- Andrew, once well enough, reached out to Kimberly via Facebook with the simple message: “I’m alive.”
- The two reunited secretly in the hospital as Andrew healed. Their love rekindled quickly—within weeks, they were engaged, and married four months later.
- Both describe the importance of healing—Kimberly especially needing to do spiritual and emotional work, Andrew experiencing a deepening faith after his brush with death.
Notable/Light Moments:
- “I looked at him and I shook my finger in his face and I said, ‘Andrew Har, you will never meet another woman like me.’” – Kimberly [25:36]
7. Healing, Community, and Faith-Filled Restoration
[28:00–29:01]
- The discussion turns to the process of healing over the next eight years of marriage: Kimberly and Andrew support each other and build a blended family.
- Kimberly’s book, Healing from Life’s Deepest Hurts, is highlighted as a resource for therapeutic tools and hope.
Quote:
- “He was just such a…he really was the hands and feet of Jesus.” – Kimberly [28:54]
8. Nicole C. Mullen Story & Music: Overcoming Abuse and Finding Freedom
[34:07–45:10]
- Nicole performs “My Redeemer Lives” and shares her own testimony of surviving an abusive marriage.
- The co-panelists praise biblical women like Abigail and Ruth as sheroes who acted with courage in difficulty.
- Nicole details her journey: growing up in a Christian home, marrying a controlling, abusive husband, and ultimately escaping while finding spiritual and emotional healing along the way.
- She emphasizes that even in abuse, God’s love is steadfast, and that seeking help is crucial.
Memorable Quotes:
- “In my valley I saw His kindness, His graciousness, His protection. When I thought He would be mad at me, [instead] He was like…I love you, I got you.” – Nicole C. Mullen [55:36]
- “God only has messed up people in His family because He came for messed up people.” – Nicole C. Mullen [50:32]
9. Faith, Surrender, and the Power of Biblical Example
[40:08–59:08]
- Further discussion of Abigail and Ruth, their biblical courage, humility, and trust in God’s sovereignty.
- Nicole draws parallels between Job’s and her own suffering, discussing how God restored them after the night season.
- The episode closes with a call for faith, surrender, and assurance that God heals, restores, and never wastes pain.
Quotes:
- “You are not what happened to you. You are who God says you are: loved, chosen, and never alone.” – Joni Lamb [29:14]
- “I was grown and I wasn’t…” (on trusting herself despite red flags) – Nicole C. Mullen [52:24]
Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps
- “When your life completely falls apart, is it really possible to be whole again?” – Joni Lamb [03:05]
- “I did not want to divorce and our kids go between homes…But I didn’t have good boundaries. I didn’t get the message about God doesn’t want us in relationships where there’s continual betrayal.” – Kimberly Har [06:36]
- “I knew at that point that I was done.” – Kimberly Har [07:39]
- “It just takes one rogue agent…” – Early Table banter about God’s grace in “movie-like” trauma [03:33]
- “I woke up to my bedroom door crashing down…for the next four hours, I was assaulted.” – Kimberly Har [14:07]
- “I was struck 10 times with .45 caliber hollow point bullets.” – Andrew Har [16:54]
- “Andrew Har, you will never meet another woman like me.” – Kimberly Har [25:36]
- “In my valley, I saw his kindness, his graciousness, his goodness, his protection.” – Nicole C. Mullen [55:36]
- “God only has messed up people in his family because he came for messed up people.” – Nicole C. Mullen [50:32]
Key Takeaways and Guidance
- God’s Redemption: No story is too broken for God to heal; the journey from pain to restoration is possible for anyone.
- Courage and Support: Whether escaping abuse or walking through trauma, confide in someone, seek help, and trust that your story matters.
- Surrender & Faith: Healing often requires relinquishing control and allowing God to work, even when the situation feels impossible.
- Community Matters: The role of supportive friends, family, and even spiritual counselors/therapists is vital.
- Biblical Inspiration: Stories like those of Abigail, Ruth, and Job reinforce that God uses brokenness for glory and can resurrect hope from despair.
- Therapeutic Tools: Healing is both a spiritual and practical process; resources like Kimberly’s book can offer actionable steps.
Final Words and Encouragement
[29:14, 59:19]
Joni Lamb closes the episode by reminding listeners that no matter how deep the pain or betrayal, God is able to heal, restore, and walk with you into freedom. The testimonies offered serve as beacons of hope:
“You are not what happened to you. You are who God says you are: loved, chosen, and never alone…” [29:14]
If you need prayer or support, don’t hesitate to reach out—never walk through darkness alone.
For further resources:
- Kimberly Har’s book: Healing from Life’s Deepest Hurts
- Nicole C. Mullen’s book: It’s Never Wrong to Do the Right Thing
- Visit kimberlyhar.com and nicolecmullen.com
If you or someone you know is experiencing abuse, please reach out to a trusted friend, counselor, or professional for help. You are not alone.