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Well, from the origins of vaccines to what's behind today's cancer crisis, what's true myth, and how do we protect ourselves? Well, today's guest is here to answer those questions from his book vaccines, Mythology, ideology and reality. But before we get to that, join me around the table is April Simons. Are you ready to hear about? I am ready.
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I learned so much on here. I'm ready to learn some more.
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I love it that we talk about health issues. We do to try to be a blessing.
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And I can't tell you how many people that I've just met wherever I go that appreciate this and appreciate you airing this. And it just so helpful.
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Well, also, welcome to the table. Anna Kendall, how are you?
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I'm just great. You know, I was meditating the scripture that says, guard your heart with all diligence because out of it flows the very issues of life. That's what we deal with. Joni, you deal with the issues of life. And we're all so thankful that you do that.
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Well, thank you so much. Dorothy Newton, welcome to the table.
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Thank you. Thank you. You know, we can never have too much information. And the information, what it does is it gives us the information so that we can make informed decisions.
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That's good.
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And I always love it and I always learn.
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Yeah. And it's no pressure, but sometimes it's information that you're not going to hear that's being censored or whatever. Rachel Ann Brown, we did a lot of that in 2020. 2021.
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Yeah. And you know, we've made so much headway from when we started talking about this, just the pushb and how censored we were. But moms are waking up, Doctors on the front lines are waking up, and our voices are being heard. And there's this maha movement going through the United States. And so I'm glad that we have a skilled expert here that's going to be able to talk about something that's so important that we need to be informed about so we can make the best decision for our families.
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That's so important. Rebecca Lamb Weiss I know this is a subject that's interesting to you and important to you with your kids and all.
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Yeah.
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You know, the apostle Paul talks about how he wants people to be preserved, spirit, soul and body. And so we are triune beings and our body matters and we need to take care of it. And there is a attack on our health. And so I feel like as a church, it's our job to talk about this kind of stuff and warn people so they can make decisions from a place of wisdom and informed consent and not from deception.
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Well, we do have Dr. Peter McCullough here at the table. Welcome, Dr. Peter Peter McCullough.
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Thank you, ladies.
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It's always a joy to have you. You know, Dr. McCullough is one of the most respected voices to testify before the Senate about the dangers of COVID 19 vaccines. And he's here to reveal how healthcare has been somewhat hijacked and why believers must stand firm in truth in the midst of some of the deception that's going on. Of course, you talk about in your book vaccines, mythology, ideology and reality. You talk a lot about the COVID vaccine in this. Well, what do we know now that is a fact and science about the COVID 19 vaccine?
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We've had a whole series of U.S. senate hearings on this, of which thousands of peer reviewed references have been collated. Senator Ron Johnson, an American hero, gets great credit on the Senate side. On the House of Representatives side, it's Marjorie Taylor Greene. She's done the same. So this is all in the record. In fact, at the last Senate hearing on May 21, 2025, I called out ranking minority Chairman Richard Blumenthal, who used a word that should never be used in the field of science and in this whole biomedical controversy we're in. And that's the word misinformation. And this has been used now twice when I've testified. They said what you're about to hear is misinformation. And you know what he was doing? I called him out on it. He was trying to gain leverage over me. He was trying to claim that he holds agency over the truth and that I don't. And listen, this is we're talking about emerging problems. No one holds the truth. No one holds misinformation. We all have fair viewpoints and our positions and our views can change over time as we learn.
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You know, a lot of people don't know, maybe you're seeing Dr. Peter McCullough for the first time, but he is a peer reviewed, one of the most peer reviewed cardiologists in America, maybe the most, and very well respected. And I've asked you this before, I don't know what your answer is going to be, but you have really taken a hard hit. Pushback, lawsuits, I mean, friends, colleagues, you went from like the top of the pinnacle, one of the most respected cardiologists. Now, because of you speaking out the truth on these issues we're going to talk about today, you have paid a price for it. And I ask you the question, why do you do this and why have you done it?
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God is my witness, if I helped one person, it was worth it. One person. If I helped one person. What I saw going on was a tragedy. It was a human tragedy. It was a crisis of compassion. People were left to die with no early treatment for the illness. And now people essentially had the vaccines forced on them, are having complications and they are being gaslit. Yeah, gaslit. They are being told it's in their head. They're being gaslit not just on the vaccines, but on the infection. I had a patient with a huge blood clot in his leg recently after having Covid. He never took the vaccine. He went to Mayo Clinic. They said it's not related to Covid. Why are they trying to cover up for the infection? It's obvious. It's well known that Covid, the spike protein, the spine on the surface of the virus, is found in the blood clots and it causes blood clots. The medical community is not leveling with the public.
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When have they come out and said, because you're a cardiologist and how many patients have you seen with myocarditis as a result of the COVID shot?
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Hundreds, if not thousands. Wow.
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And hasn't your personal ideology as it relates to vaccines evolved? Especially since what you experienced with the COVID 19 pandemic? Because.
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And you're a good witness for this. We all should have evolving views on things. Do you know during medical school there's no lectures on vaccine safety? I went to medical school here at UT Southwestern. Now, granted, it was decades ago, but, you know, there was no lecture on autism at all.
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Wow.
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There are no grand rounds on vaccine safety or autism? None.
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We didn't see any. There were no autistic kids in my class ever. No.
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Right.
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From elementary to middle school.
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What are the statistics now? It's 1 in 4. Right.
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Well, currently autism, according to 2022 CDC data is 1 in 31 children, 3.2% of children. But listen to this. But in California, California, which does not have any wiggle room on these vaccine exemptions, they're over 5%. And of those, the CDC Autism Spectrum Network says 27% of them have profound autism. We're talking about children with IQs above 50. They have head bangin repetitive behaviors. They cannot verbally talk to their parents. They can't manage the bathroom themselves. They will be lifelong invalids. There's far more children with profound autism now than there ever were with polio.
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But they will deny that the vaccine had anything to do with autism. Although we know that with some of these children that some of the ingredients pass through the blood brain barrier, right? And that's why you've got the head banging and they loosen, because it's actually brain injury. Now, I do know many parents that went through this and were able to actually see some recovery with their children. They had to work with the diet, they had to pull certain metals out, you know, and there was a process. So I don't want you to, for those of you that are dealing with this, to give up hope. But it is a problem we have to address. And Bobby Kennedy understands that. And he said, let's look at this science. What does the science show about this?
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You know, there are hundreds of studies and the studies that claim there's no link, not in a single study did they actually call the parents and get the vaccine records, nor did they examine the children for autism. It was simply done from automated sources of data and saying, well, we can't see anything here. It has been grossly understudied. The cases described are very clear. The parents know their children. They take a bundle of vaccines and they are changed. The children are born normal. And the CDC right now has no call of urgency. Their reports indicate that autism is absolutely skyrocketing. We should just get ready for more special needs services for children. No inquiry in terms of what are the risk factors for this and actually no interest in treatments.
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If vaccines are something that the majority of the public is taking, then why isn't there more testing done to prove efficacy of these, of these products?
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There should be. The vaccines have been held immune from any liability since 1986. They are given very, very easy pathways for approval. Just a few days of measurement of antibodies. Most have actually no proven efficacy. And then they're just installed on this routine childhood vaccine schedule without any question. Very few are ever retired. You know, I took the smallpox vaccine. You probably did too that one was retired in 1976. You know, the rest of them are continued. I, as a doctor, I've never tested a patient in my career for diphtheria or pertussis. I've never tested for it because we treat it with azithromycin. Anyway, when a child gets bronchitis, why do we still have these on the vaccine schedules?
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For example, Doctor, you mentioned that vaccines is almost like becoming like a false religion. What does that mean? And does it mean all vaccines?
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It goes back. We start in our book. We found some dabbling in vaccines in Africa and in Asia, around Turkey, modern day Turkey, before this. But we start 1721 Boston, Cotton Mather. Now, he's 50 years before Edward Jenner and the smallpox vaccine. But what we saw from the very beginning was a tremendous fear of infectious diseases. People died of smallpox and measles. They died of tuberculosis. It was horrible. And then scientists came in and made these bold claims. We can give a shot, we can prevent this. Just take it. Trust us. And with this, we saw a tremendous amount of unproven claims. Bold hubris, always. And then money and power. From the very beginning. Usually these vaccine developers, they were at the right hand of the King and Queen. No different than Anthony Fauci at the right hand of Trump or Biden. No different. No different. Louis Pasteur, who did some good things, made many bold claims regarding his animal vaccines. We said, where's the proof? In the end, it was years later, 1960s, his family releases his memoirs. It's all in our book. It turns out he stole ideas from others. Most of them didn't work anyway. This Pasteur Institute, in a sense, just like they were going to build a shrine to Anthony Fauci, had elements of fraudulent concealment. So vaccine ideology goes like this. Mankind is vulnerable to infectious diseases, but through the brilliance of science and vaccinology, that man can improve upon God's creation, man can make God's work better, but the vaccines aren't perfect. So for everyone to benefit, for this to really work, everyone must take it. And if some people are injured or damaged or sadly die along the way, they have to accept that for the greater good of humanity. That's vaccine ideology. And listen, all vaccines have side effects. None of them are perfect. And we acknowledge the reality. Listen, the chickenpox vaccine has dropped case counts of chickenpox. Wonderful. But guess what? Now those who took the chickenpox vaccine, higher chance of shingles as an adult.
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Really, what was the tipping point for you that made you start looking into vaccines to Want to write this book to realize there's actually something much greater going on here that is not being discussed.
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Two things. One, this COVID 19 vaccine debacle where we were told that the COVID vaccine was better than God's given immunity for us. That type of hubris like really didn't matter how many times you got Covid just take more shots.
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Right.
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And then the second thing was this now awareness. We are being consumed with an autism epidemic.
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Yeah, we are.
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And as parents came up to me, I've given hundreds of public programs, thousands of people who come all over the world and parents coming up and telling me the story. My child was born normal. They were perfectly fine. They were toddling, they were babbling, they got blasted with a battery of vaccines and a few weeks or a few months later, they are profoundly autistic.
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The morning like, I mean, I've interviewed mother Sid the next morning, the little baby boy that would meet her every morning, jumping in the crib, had the vaccines, then kind of got a fever, got fussy, but slept through the night. The next morning just laid there, couldn't stand, couldn't bounce, couldn't look at her,
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couldn't say a word.
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I lost him just like that.
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These parents are not making it up.
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That's right.
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There was 5,000 families in the Autism Omnibus consideration 2007, 2008. It's in our book where they brought it forward to the government and said the vaccines are related to my child's autism. The one convincing case, Dr. Poling, who's a neurologist from Johns Hopkins who published the case of his little daughter Hannah, clearly the vaccines caused his daugh autism. It's in the peer reviewed literature. He's a neurologist. The government brings him aside, they do a settlement with him, they pull him out of the omnibus and then they dismiss the other 5,000 cases.
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Wow.
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That's what happened. Parents are furious. And you know what? Now a recent paper in JAMA shows 60% of young parents are not going to follow this vaccine schedule.
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That's good, that's a change. You know, I had a friend that her son got vaccinated too, who's perfectly normal like you said, within a week, just totally different. They had a daughter born, she was vaccinated at 2. They didn't think it was the vaccines. Exact same thing happened.
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Siblings.
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Yes, siblings. So, you know, I think about, I'm so glad to hear that now people aren't going to get the vaccines because that's really our only answer, right?
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Well, at this Point, I would say this. It's all about risks and benefits. A child born with terrible lung disease, they could be wiped out with RSV or something.
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Sure.
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Then the vaccine rises to the point where maybe the benefit outweighs potential risk. I mean, think about this. Some of these conditions occur less than one in a million administrations. If you had 20,000 administrations, you're likely not to have any of these. But even a flu shot, it's in the package insert, causes Guillain Barre syndrome paralysis. As an adult, I took 40 flu shots because I had to to be on medical staff. I never even tested for flu. There's four drugs to treat flu. Why did I risk Guillain Barre syndrome with each one of them? Sadly, there are thousands of people now who are in bed on ventilators because they took a flu shot and got Guillain Barre syndrome.
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Are there people who have a genetic predisposition to being more damaged by vaccines?
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For sure. For sure. And there are common genetic variants. Even in the polling case, which we have in our chapter, Little Hannah polling, she had a mutation in what's called a mitochondrial enzyme. So there probably are common genetic variants. And of course, the sibling case speaks to that. Right.
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That's why that happen.
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A common folate methylation genetic variant called MTHFR is one of them. Listen, these are common. And so, you know, parents are starting to figure this out. The sad thing is there is no concern at the level of our public health agencies. I think that's the reason why Kennedy has now cleaned house. Because we need a new group of leaders in that are going to prioritize public safety.
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Well, I want to get into what's going on at cdc. It's very interesting, but also wanted to mention for those watching that took the COVID shot or they had Covid and they're experiencing some of the spike proteins or lingering effects and they know are related to it. There is a. You, I just saw this today, this product, Ultimate Spike Detox. And you brought it because you've helped a lot of people and you took it yourself because you had Covid and you had the spike proteins higher. Right. Than what they should have been. Explain that to everybody.
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That's right. The virus and the vaccine both install what's called the spike protein, which is the spine and the surface of the virus in the body. There are some illnesses, by the way, that leave remnants in the body, like lyme disease is one and syphilis is another. Well, this SARS CoV2 virus, and I didn't take the vaccine But I did get the viral infection and the spike protein causes all the symptoms of Long Covid syndrome. All of them due to the spike protein. I've tried every drug under the sun. The drugs themselves don't dissolve or get the spike protein out of the body. Human enzymes can't break it down. God has provided a solution and that is nattokinase and bromelain, which are natural enzymes. They do degrade the spike protein. That's proven in pre clinical studies. Now clinical studies showing that curcumin helps block the inflammation. Other minor ingredients, selenium and turmeric.
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All of these things, all of these.
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The selenium aids in absorption. Black Sativa and others work in concert. But the main.
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Dandelion root.
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Dandelion root, all of them. We had to justify the evidence to the Federal Trade Commission. But the point I'm making is the natural products have to be taken probably for a year or longer. They're supplements. So some of it gets into the bloodstream, they dissolve the spike protein, the antibodies level go down. We've published this in the peer reviewed literature.
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And you experienced it?
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They published it in peer reviewed literature.
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Yes, it's published now in their centers all over the world. A recent paper came out in Brazil saying, Dr. McCullough, we're using this approach. If you go on Amazon, you get spike detox, this will come up. But there's many other companies making trios too. It goes to show you good ideas are taken up by others. This was not patented for a reason. We wanted so many people to get treatment through all different types of companies.
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Look at all the ladies. Have a bottle.
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Yes, we do.
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And it shows there's a need that a lot of people are making this. It just verifies.
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There you go.
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That this affected us.
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And so you've seen after the results from somebody who's been on like a year.
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Yeah, you go a year. I just saw a pro football player from Australia, wonderful gentleman vaccine, myocarditis. His levels were sky high. We measure the antibodies against the spike protein levels. They dramatically come down. I think he was about 18,000. He's come way down under 5,000 now. I just put out on Twitter and
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he was doing this.
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Yeah, he did that for about 18 months or so.
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So he came down that much. But you want to be 1000 and under.
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You want to be a. But I just put out just a patient. I redacted everything, but I put it on Twitter showing, you know, he was about 8000 having symptoms and goes about 20 months and now he's 3000. I was 2300 on this test, had ear ringing, didn't feel so good last time I came. And you know, now after nine months, I'm about 900 now. Of interest, my mother in law who's 92, took two shots, never had any symptoms whatsoever. Perfectly fine. I'm studying her like what's going on here? We measured her, she's 200. So some people who got the shots essentially got little or no vaccine.
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And some of them, and they've been spared, some of them were bum shots.
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I mean, that's what he's saying. And we know that because we had another person on that talked about that
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and they looked at the lots and it was for whatever reason the MRNA technology broke down before it got in. But when it was good and steady, you could see the effects.
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It's probably sloppy manufacturing. The shots given earlier were more dangerous in 2021, progressively over time less dangerous. But the lots from vial to vial are dramatically different. Verbigi Manici is a doctor from Denmark who's broken the news on this. And you know, it just goes to show you how sloppy and undisciplined and unsafe the vaccine program was.
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I know that you testified before the Senate and what truths came out concerning Pfizer Moderna and some of the other recently.
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And this goes to this nefarious nature that was mentioned about vaccines we uncovered. And it's in a report from the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations. It's in the record now. The US government and the public health agencies actively covered up the risks of heart damage from the vaccines. They delayed reports out to warn parents, warn young people. More people were damaged by the vaccine, vaccines. It was intentional. Our US government was getting communiques. They got a communique from Israel saying, listen, we've got 62 cases. Two people died of vaccine myocarditis and it was suppressed. So our government agencies were complicit with more vaccine damage leveled on the population.
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Is that why we're seeing the shakeup in the CDC right now based on what you're saying?
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We are, and I think it's mainly about ideology. The people in the CDC who essentially walked out or were fired were true vaccine zealots. They believed in vaccines and they can't possibly bring themselves to the reality of reviewing the science on hard safety. Now remember safety, things that happen are real. A blood clot, a stroke, autism. These are real heart events versus theoretical benefits. You take a shot, you don't know if you've really benefited or not. You don't know if it lasts your whole life or not. I don't know if the polio shot I took when I was a kid really does anything, because polio's out of the water supply. Right. So you don't know. Vaccine efficacy is theoretical, Vaccine harm is real.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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That's a good line.
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But the zealots that are walking out, this is where that ideology comes in, where you're like, this is more than scientific. This is becoming a new religion.
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Do you remember that Tom Cruise movie with when he says, you can't handle the truth? That's what we're down to.
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What do you think is fueling that? What do you think? What's your theory?
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I think this vaccine ideology is a real false religion and it's baked in. If you talk to doctors about this, some doctors can't even stay in the exam room with you. If a mother actually asks about vaccines, some doctors start to flip out.
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Yeah, but as you said, you haven't even really been educated on how many doctors don't even actually know what they're doing because nobody's ever told them. But they're just doing what's always been done.
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Well, they're actually told to accept it based on blind faith. That's different. And once you've taken the faith step, then the doctors become committed.
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I think you don't really recognize it until one of them has a daughter or a granddaughter or grandson. That has the effect.
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Then they'll change. You can understand, I mean, as a prominent cardiologist in your field, early on, you can understand some of the doctor's mindset, can't you? I mean, as far as being afraid of pharmaceuticals or losing patients, et cetera. Sure.
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And losing, in a sense, losing their career. I mean, from the time I graduated from high school, I graduated right here in Grapevine High School. From the time I graduated from high school to the time I was fully baked as a doctor, was 17 years of hard work, six years sleeping in the hospital. This is nearly an entire military career. Can you imagine all that thrown away if you don't accept the religion of the vaccine?
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Wow.
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And that's a philosophical opinion, but at
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the end of the day, that there is a higher power that you answer to, and that would be God. And at the end of the day, you want to please him, even if you have a man coming against you. Right?
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That's right.
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Well, this is so good. Vaccines, mythology, ideology and reality. Everybody needs to get the book and read it. Vaccines, mythology, Ideology and reality. And this is John Leake and Peter McCullough. I like on the back.
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Yes.
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Joe Rogan says Dr. Peter McCullough was right all along. That's great.
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That's a good line.
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I love that. I love that. So. And of course you. This is. We don't get anything from this. So I'm just saying ultimate spikes. You know, I'm all about helping you anytime that I can. And ladies, we all got a bottle, so we can. I'm so excited about giving this to Spike ourselves. Can you take it? If you've had Covid or if you've been vaccinated, Even if you don't do the test, can you still.
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Oh, for sure. And the test is not mandatory in any way. You know, two capsules twice a day, even two capsules once a day. The nice thing about these products, particularly nattokinase, is that it's anti atherosclerotic. The Japanese use this for prevention of heart attack and stroke in general. They've been doing it for decades.
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Oh, wow. That's amazing. That's so good. Alright, well, we're out of time. I hope you've enjoyed the discussion today, but I want you to remember that no matter the deception or darkness, Jesus is still the light. He is our healer. He's our savior, he's our hope. So I don't want you to be afraid. Those of you that have had the COVID shot or you've had Covid or you still have symptoms or you know someone, you know there are answers to these questions. And we're going to trust God first off, and the blood of Jesus and whatever God's put on the earth to help us with doctors like Dr. McCullough who have developed some of these products and stuff can be a blessing. So you be encouraged today. If you're watching and you need prayer, you can call the number on the screen. We'd love to pray with you and it's our honor to do so. And if you don't know Jesus and you say, you know what, I've tried everything else, I might as well try that. Just open up your heart and just say, jesus, come into my heart, forgive me. And he will meet you right where you are. So don't be afraid to whisper that prayer again. If you did pray that prayer with me, you can call, let us know. We'd love to send you the Book of John. The Gospel of John is a great place to start in the Bible with QR codes after each chapter, where Dr. Gene Goetz explains the chapter to you. So it's just our way of saying thank you, a good way for you to get started. But I do want to thank Dr. McCullough for joining us. You can get a copy of his book on Amazon and to know more about his work, you can visit visit mccullough fnd.org as always, make sure to follow us on all social media. Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full episodes, exclusive content and let us know how Table Talk is touching your life. We love hearing from you. Of course, you can also listen to the Joanie Table Talk podcast available now on all the major platforms. Thank you, ladies. Thank you, Dr. McCullough, you will be back to update us right as things happen, as things are changing. So just, just pray, what do we want? We want to see everybody have access to the truth concerning things going on about their health. And so that's why we do programs like this. I hope it was a blessing for you. I want to thank you for watching. We'll see you next time. Bye Bye for today. Well, from the COVID pandemic to cover up, what's the truth behind vaccines? Well, today's guest joins us to share tragic stories of individuals and families that were impacted by vaccine injuries. And they're going to expose the shocking realities the mainstream media will never tell you. But before we get to that, join me around the table is Cindy Johnston. How are you? Hey, I'm doing great. I'm thinking of a story of somebody we helped that had Covid. Yes. We had a man in our church that had Covid and they put him in the hospital. They were going to put him on a ventilator. They were going to put him on remdesivir.
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Yes.
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All the things that they shouldn't have done. And through Joni, we connected them with an attorney and other people to help them. And he is living a happy life today. Eudesanine, Ivermectin. And he's alive today, happy, doing well, thriving. And they didn't expect him to live. But we're going to talk about some of these stories. Anna Kendall.
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Yes.
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Jodie, how are you doing? You look beautiful today, by the way. Oh, thank you. Thank you.
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D
I'm just so happy to be here. And I just love what we're talking about. This is information that people need to hear. I never get tired of hearing about this.
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Dorothy Newton, how are you doing?
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E
I'm doing so good. You know, Joni, I love sitting at this table because we learn so much and give it to the audience. So that they can make informed decisions now that I have grandchildren. Oh, I want to know everything I possibly can so that I can encourage my young adult kids.
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That's true. Rachel Ann Brown, I know you're interested in all of this today.
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F
Yes. Man, this is such a crazy time in our world and to hear the stories of people's lives that have been affected so dramatically is so truly heartbreaking. But I'm glad that we can talk about it, expose it, and bring to
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light what people need to know, you know, in 2020. Cindy Murdoch, you were here when we talked about a lot of this and got a lot of pushback from people that did not like us talking about it. And yet you look at how everything has unfolded, it's unfolding to where I think, wow, they must have been watching Table Talk because now they're saying exactly what we said. Well, I mean, science is telling it out. It's proven to be true. And we're so glad to have Polly Tomney and Dr. Brian Hooker. Thank you for being here, guys.
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J
Thank you for having us.
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I
Thank you so much.
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Love having you guys. You're going to love hearing from them. Well, it's one of the most controversial topics of our time. Vaccines. Polly Tomney and Dr. Brian Hook are two parents who turned their personal pain into a mission for truth. Are here to share their personal stories and shocking discoveries from their new documentary, Vaxxed 3. Let's watch the trailer together. It's a nightmare. It's a nightmare. I ended up in a wheelchair, completely seized up. Thought I was stroking, couldn't walk. Had to relearn how to walk again. Kidneys are shutting down. She had five Pfizer COVID vaccinations. She never woke up. This is the life that I have now. It's when you start thinking, okay, how do I end my life?
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J
Something really sinister, really, really sinister was going on.
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These were fundamental violations of human rights.
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J
So we here at Children's Health Defence are going to go back out on the road. We are going to speak to every single one of you. What have you been doing?
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A
Those are my eyes. This is a huge tumor. This is the bottom of my lung that is filled with blood. They said it was the most aggressive cancer that they'd seen.
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H
I held onto my husband for the
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A
very last and I stayed with him until his body got cold. I told him that I loved him, not to be afraid.
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J
What have your children been through? Through Covid, through all of the issues that we've had over these last few years. We want to hear all of your
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H
stories, it was hard seeing 25 year
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olds coming in with heart attacks, with
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H
strokes because they received the vaccine.
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The success rate of these patients getting better was next to zero. There's something wrong, there's something has happened
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H
and you have to consider the vaccine, vaccines. This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
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A
You showed up here and you're unvaccinated. You will suffer for having not done what we had to do. That to me was a crime against humanity and a violation of my oath.
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J
We will continue. Children's Health defence will continue and we will not stop until there's justice and this never, ever happens again.
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So why do we do shows like this? These are stories that you'll never hear in the secular media. These stories, real life stories of what happened to people who had the COVID vaccine. And I know everyone wasn't affected and I know some of you make the choice to have the vaccine and you absolutely have that right. All we're saying today is we want to give you information, we want you to be the most informed because they are still touting the COVID vaccine for babies and it's actually on the list of vaccinations that a baby should receive the COVID vaccine at 6 months of age. So we want to talk with people who know and understand and have met with thousands of people and what they've experienced. Dr. Brian Hooker, you got involved in this when your child was vaccine injured from a childhood vaccination. Tell us your story real quick. Sure.
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I
My son was vaccinated at 15 months. He received three vaccines and he had an active ear infection that day. And we even questioned the, the nurse practitioner that was there, you know, he's sick, should we vaccinate him? She said, oh yeah, we do it all the time.
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How was he mentally, physically, at 15 months old before he got these vaccinations?
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I
He had 15 words, he had eye contact. He was the light of my life. I mean, he was such a, he posed so much for pictures that we actually considered him being a childhood model for, you know, he was just so bright eyed and would look right at you. But then after that, after that incident, he had a high fever, high pitched screaming. He fevered for two weeks and then coming out of it, he had lost all language, lost all eye contact. His bowel basically turned a hamburger. I mean, you know, he had multiple issues medically, just looked like a time bomb went off in his system.
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A
Wow. And that propelled you out of whatever you were doing, employee wise or for your employment to turn and to try to figure out what you could do to help your son. And you got involved in all this because of what happened to your son and how he was injured?
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I
Absolutely. 25 years ago, yes.
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A
And what did you do?
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I
Well, I wanted answers right away. And you know, one of the things that was preposterous was that there was mercury in vaccines and in many of the vaccines he received in childhood. So I started investigating the Centers for Disease Control specifically around mercury being one of the issues. But then it became so apparent that there were so many more issues and that the CDC was actively covering up, you know, the relationship between vaccines and autism. And so that was the start of my journey back in 2001, 2002. And it became not only the challenge to heal my son and to make him medically well again, but also to warn others and to make sure that this never happen again. You never want this to happen to a child.
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A
How is your child today?
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I
Well, he's 26 years old, he's a non speaker, he does not speak, but he uses a letter board to spell. And so it's a modality called spellers. And for the first time in 26 years, he's openly communicating with my wife and I. So it's just, it's an amazing miracle, amazing blessing.
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A
You have such empathy and understanding for those that are watching that have an autistic child.
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I
Yes. You know, there are so many, so many children that are struggling with autism. You know, it's 1 in 34, which is an underestimate in the United States, the autism prevalence, 1 in 22 boys. So it's very, very difficult.
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A
And what was it 25 years ago, what were the numbers?
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About one in 5,000.
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F
Wow, that is staggering.
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I
Yes.
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F
Like, how can no one do anything about that?
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I
When you see how astounding it is, you know, that there's something afoot, that there's some type of COVID up because you cannot miss autism. You know, saying that it's better diagnosis of autism, which is the excuse that we get from the federal government all the time and you know, the talking heads to say that it is, you know, missing autism would be like missing a train wreck.
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A
Okay, Polly, give us a little quick rundown of how you got pulled into this because you were pro vaccination.
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J
Totally, totally pro vaccine. I mean, why would you ever question a medical professional? I was taught, brought up that you don't, you know, don't speak down to authority. So, yeah, my son, my second child, I took him in for just the MMR that day he was 13 months old. That's all that was on the schedule back in that day.
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A
And what was he like at 13 months?
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J
Right. Absolutely perfect. In fact, I thought incredibly advanced. So all was good. But he had a seizure after he had the MMR in the morning, by the evening he had this ghastly seizure. I'd never seen a seizure before. Eyes rolling back, all of it, you can imagine. We rushed him into hospital and they said it's a very common reaction to the mmr, very common. And he's going to be fine. Give him some antibiotics. I mean, none of this makes sense now and he'll be fine. And, well, he wasn't fine and he never was fine. We had 13 months of his life as God intended him to be. The rest is vaccinated.
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A
And what happened? What kind of, how was he after the vaccine? How was he different?
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J
Well, he then started stopping, responding to his sister, to us. He didn't realize we were his parents. We'd take him out for a walk and he'd keep running. Nothing, nothing would make him come back to us. He was just slowly losing all skills and like Brian said, very medically sick. This horrific high pitched scream, this endless diarrhea, it was a medical condition. You could see he was a very sick little boy. And we couldn't get any help because everywhere you go, they'll say you're crazy.
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A
Well, if you want more information on what they're talking about, especially for childhood vaccinations, you did a documentary, Vaxxed 1 and Vaxxed 2. We covered that years ago. You and I covered that years ago when nobody was talking about this. And we helped a lot of people. And so how can they see vax1 or vaxx2?
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J
So to see the Vax movies you need to go to chd.com and it's in the movie section. Everything is free. And there's other movies there as well, all educational, but vax2 and vax3 are on there.
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Okay, so we're going to talk about VAX 3 today. So a single father who believed the COVID vaccine was safe and effective took his son to get vaccinated only to experience the unimaginable. Let's see what happens.
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K
My name is Ernest Ramirez. I'm the father of Ernesto Ramirez Jr. And I'm honored to be here with you. Polly.
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J
We're thrilled. Children's Health Defence unanimously shows you your bravery, the way you speak out about your son. Tell everybody briefly. We do know your story, but there may be some watching that do not. What happened to your son?
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K
Well, being a single parent, I was concerned with the COVID and they lied to us. Said it was safe and effective. So we went to get the vaccine, and five days later, after his first dose of Pfizer, he died suddenly. He just collapsed. And the government denies it. Everyone. No one wants to, you know, admit to the wrongdoing. And, I mean, it's just. I was upset. I got suicidal. The good lord put me in the past to try to protect other children. So I do this to honor my son. And I know he wants to protect other.
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Other.
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H
Other kids.
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K
That's the reason I do this. We have to protect one another.
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J
Yes, we do. Would you sign your son's name as number one, please, on the children's health defense bus?
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L
Well.
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A
Shocking. It's so sad. I know the ladies at the table, I looked over, and you're just shaking your head in dismay. But, Dr. Hooker, we don't know how many people actually died from the COVID vaccination. Right, but you have a. The latest estimates are what?
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I
That you know, of the latest estimates. And this is not every country worldwide, it's about 17.6 million individuals died from the COVID 19 vaccines, and probably over a million people died just in the United States.
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A
And you don't hear about it?
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I
No.
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C
That's what's.
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A
What's so frustrating is you don't hear those stories. And the other thing is that a lot of people don't know, Dr. Hooker, that hospitals got money when somebody died from COVID When that went on the death certificate, how much money did hospitals make off of that?
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I
Through all the therapies that would le ultimately to death, they would make about a quarter of a million dollars per patient.
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A
Wow.
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F
I don't understand. Why incentivize hospitals for people dying?
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I
Well, they were incentivizing hospitals for these, you know, very, very exorbitant therapies, things that did not work.
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A
Like remdesivir.
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I
Like remdesivir, like ventilators. And hospitals at that point had been really starved for funds because at the beginning of the COVID the lockdowns, they weren't patients into the hospitals. And then when patients finally came to the hospitals, they were starving for money. And so there were a lot of things that happened that should have never happened. And like I said, you know, going through remdesivir, going through mechanical ventilation, putting in icu, using drugs for no family
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A
member, no one allowed in the room. I mean, think about someone that's that sick and they don't have. They're completely alone. I mean, I can't even imagine how many people suffered. But, Polly, as you're traveling through America and you're hearing these stories and they're signing the bus for every death. I know you got to, like, 2,000 signatures. And that's when you said, we've got to make the document.
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J
Yeah. We had to stop saying the same thing over and over and over again.
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A
And what was the same thing you heard over and over?
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J
So the people who were shot were injured or dead. And the COVID hospital protocols, they were targeting the unvaccinated. So the people said, and all had the same story over and over again. The abuse, because they did not take the shot. The vaccine, the COVID 19 vaccine, that they got treated differently than the ones that took the shot and went to hospital. So that's why they could say it was a pandemic of the unvaccinated, because the people tell us they killed them in hospital.
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A
Dr. Hooker, I know that my friend Dr. Peter McCullough told me that a vast number of young men were affected with myocarditis.
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I
Right.
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A
Why do you think this Covid shot just went for the heart like that in such young people?
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I
Well, the COVID shot, the spike protein itself would get out into the circulatory system, and the genetic code then would invade the cardiac muscle directly. It targeted all organs. But when it targeted the cardiac muscle, then that caused an immune attack directly on the cardiac muscle, which resulted in myocarditis. And those people that had the most healthy, robust immune systems had the most exaggerated response. And that's why you saw it in young adults, especially young adult males and adolescents. And the COVID 19 vaccine eclipsed the injuries that had been reported to the CDC over 32 years of all other vaccines combined.
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A
Within a year, it eclipsed every other vaccine injury for all the other vaccines that had been created. Huge. Is that.
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I
Well, we know that the CDC only reports and only captures about 1% of all vaccine injuries, but there were over a million, actually about 1.5 million vaccine injuries that were reported to the CDC just for the COVID 19 and dead babies.
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A
So we know how. There's no way we can know how many actually were. Like, there's no way they were all reported. Well, there was one courageous nurse who revealed shocking truths about COVID hospital protocols showing what really happened behind closed doors during the pandemic.
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L
Let's watch the internist, which is the doctors for the icu. The ICU doctors are called internists. They would tell me that they're being forced by the hospital to put the patients on the death certificate that they died from COVID And it was a play of words because the patients died while under the COVID COVID protocol, pending the results of the test. They did not die from COVID but they were being told that they need to put Covid on the death certificate, which is falsification of information.
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C
And.
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L
And then that way the hospital will make money, because they were making money if you died under the protocol and if you died under the vent. They were doing things like, you know, you have to wait 10 days after the first test before you do the test again to make sure you're not positive. Well, tests were being done on people who are positive every day, and all those numbers were being sent to public health as new numbers, even though it's from this one same person. So the more numbers you had, more positive Covid tests you have, the more money you would get to treat all these cases.
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I know y' all have to be shocked down there at the end of the table.
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D
Oh, absolutely, absolutely. And they're still trying to get you to take the shot today?
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A
Yeah. What is this about babies? Dr. Hooker, are you serious that it is on the protocol for vaccinations for
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I
children, for children as young as 6 months of age, babies, and it's absolutely insidious because this was never tested on children. And it's been shown that children that get the COVID virus, the virus is much more mild in children. They get sniffles. And I've talked to pediatrician after pediatrician who said, yeah, I've seen cases of COVID in my practice. We just send them home. I mean, they don't really need additional care, especially when they're that young. It just does not affect the young.
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D
I have a friend who was in remission from cancer and had been doing great, and her doctor insisted that she got the shot. And, like, three weeks later, the cancer was back full blown. She went to stage four.
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A
How many? Well, because it affects the immune system. How many oncologists are noticing the rise of cancers and rare cancers after the COVID shot?
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I
It's everywhere. And oncologists are screaming at the top of their lungs, and they're seeing a correlation not with COVID the virus, but when the vaccine rolled out an uptick in cancers over the military complex. I went through what's called the Department of Defense epidemiological system, and that particular system showed a 40% uptick in cancers starting in 20, 21.
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D
Wow.
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A
You know, it's okay for people to question, isn't it?
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I
Absolutely.
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A
Because we're taught to trust the doctors and the medical system, that they're for our best interest. They take an oath. But we're learning that greed and power have overtaken the oath of what's best for humanity. So parents and people can question. Right. Be informed, ask questions about this.
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E
Exactly. And how do we hold the healthcare professionals accountable? I mean, there's gotta be a way
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A
or even informed consent for parental rights. And what's going on there as well, Brian?
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I
Exactly. Well, one of the things that was so frustrating was that when you took out the package insert on the COVID 19 vaccine, it was absolutely blank on both sides. There was no informed consent for the COVID 19 shot. And it really Pfizer knew for their particular shot called Cominardi, that within three months of the rollout of the Pfizer shot that there had already been 1200 people that were killed. That was reported only to Pfizer. Again, a very, very large underestimate. So all of these things were being hidden. All of these things were being covered up. They were being sealed only through the efforts of somebody, people like Aaron Seri, where this was this information being exposed to the public.
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A
Well, you know, when the COVID vaccine was first rolled out, dozens of celebrities used their platforms to promote it. Let's look at these clips. That was easy.
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G
Friends star Jennifer Aniston is cutting ties
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with people in her life who are unvaccinated.
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H
We have to stop coddling the morons who will not get the shot.
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I
When are we going to stop putting up with the idiots in this country
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H
and just say you now it's mandatory to get vaccinated. They are all snowflakes and cowards and idiots and losers.
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L
I just want to say to all of you cowards out there, don't be such a chicken squat.
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A
If you're willing to walk among us unvaccinated, you are an enemy.
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L
Me?
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A
Don't you think, Dr. Hooker, that people have woke up and there there is a body of people that said we will not be taken again by surprise like we were in 2020?
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I
Absolutely. You know, the CDC that the whole pharmaceutical industrial complex really overplayed their hand with this one. And more and more people are waking up. The compliance for the latest Covid booster is down around 13, which is good news. The bad news is that it's still out there. It should be.
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A
It's still on commercials, y'. All.
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L
Exactly.
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A
Still on commercials. Yeah.
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F
But I think the One good thing that came out, if there's anything that came out of this whole thing, is people's eyes are open, not just for the COVID 19 vaccine, but for all the other scheduled vaccines that before they never would have even, like, looked at. Yeah, they're starting to ask questions.
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A
Well, and you know, Rachel was vaccinated. I mean, she was born in 1990. And I didn't know this information. It would be later that I would find out. And of course, there's a lot more vaccinations now.
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F
Dr. Hooker, how many vaccinations are there now? How many.
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A
How many are on the schedule?
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I
How many are on the schedule? Through 18 years of age, about 70 needle sticks. And in the first year of life, 26 needle sticks.
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A
And what are you doing? What are the symptoms as far as. And diseases and things that have happened to children as a result of these vaccinations? That can absolutely be proven.
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I
Well, it's not just autism. You know, the CDC would lead you to believe that vaccines don't cause autism, they're safe. Well, first of all, they do cause autism. And second of all, they are not safe. And they cause asthma. They can cause allergies, especially food allergies. They can cause add, adhd, gastrointestinal issues.
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A
Gut issues.
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I
Exactly.
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A
And your son, he had some of those gut issues, didn't he?
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I
He did. You know, we really had to struggle just for him to have a normal bowel and his gut. To this day, we have to work really, really hard for his gut to be in balance.
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A
And the same with Billy, right?
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J
Absolutely. Strict diet. It costs a fortune as well, does it not, to keep your child healthy afterwards. But I do want people to know that there is a lot you can do. I don't believe personally that you can recover unless it's some miracle from God. But you can recover. Once that needle's gone in, the damage is done. But you can improve the quality of life beyond belief. It's very expensive.
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I
Exactly. It's very expensive.
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A
And so there's like a detoxing that has to take place.
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J
Food is crucial. Right.
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E
What you feed your child.
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A
So what can parents do? Because you know they're being told, well, your kid can't come to school if you don't have. And look what's going on in California. Right.
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J
Well, first of all, I think there's no school worth. If your kid can't come to school because it needs a vaccination, then you take your child out the of. Because your child could die from a vaccination We've seen that. We've seen many stories of death. And you don't want to have what Billy and Stephen have got, Our children have got. That is not a gift. Again, we need to keep. People say you're so fortunate God gave you that child because he knew you could handle it. No, God gave me the most beautiful baby, and I stuck poison inside.
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A
And so the state. Every state's different. I know in Texas, there is, you know, religious. Where you can. If it goes to religious content. Yeah. And what can people do, Dr. Hooker? I mean, like that.
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I
Well, you can find out what the law is, because a lot of school districts will not tell you the law. They'll basically tell you that you are excluding. They're going to exclude your child without vaccinations. But you need to know the law in your state. And then there are states that only have medical exemptions. There are five states across the Union that you can only have a medical exemption. And I would defer to policy. No school is worth it. One vaccine can take. It just takes one. One vaccine can take out your child's life.
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A
Okay. Vax 3. How can people see it?
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J
CHD TV. It's free. So you can take it, you can share it, you can do whatever you want. Okay.
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A
Y' all gonna watch it? Yes, I'm gonna watch it. All right. Well, that's all the time we have. I want you to remember that God desires for us to be whole physically, emotionally, and spiritually. And, you know, Polly said sometimes it may take God to intervene in a situation. For those of us that know the Lord, yes, we can pray. And I have seen miracles happen with children and with people. And so I would just want to encourage you today that God loves you and he's bigger than any vaccine. Okay? But the most important thing that you can do right now is invite Jesus into your heart and just make sure you have a personal relationship with him. And that's really why we exist, to share the gospel, the good news with you. Because this life is just a stepping stone to the life to come. And we want to make sure that you're ready to meet the Lord. So you just call out on his name. Jesus, I need you come into my heart. Forgive me. That's what my grandpa just said. God, if you're there. He didn't know how to pray. He'd never been to church. He cursed every other word he said when he prayed that prayer at 19. And God completely transformed his life and the life of our family. He wants to do the same thing for you. Some of you are just watching because of the topic, but the Lord is like, you know what, I got something else I want to do in your life and that's changed your life forever. And that's what happens when you pray that prayer. We have a prayer line number on the screen. We'd love to pray with you. We have prayer partners that are standing by. But I do want to thank Polly and Brian for joining us today. Thanks for coming by. Thank you for having me and keep me up to date on everything and any new things again. To watch the documentary and for more information visit CHD tv. I know so many of you are going to watch. As always, make sure to follow us on social media and subscribe to the YouTube channel for full episodes and exclusive content. Let us know how Table Talk is touching your life. We love hearing from you and can also listen to the Joni Table Talk podcast, available now on all major platforms. I want to thank you for watching. Why do we do this? Because we love you and we want to share truth with you and we want you to do your research and we want children and adults to be happy and healthy and fulfill their destiny on the earth. That's why we do it. God bless you. We'll see you next time. Bye bye for today.