JONI TABLE TALK - OCTOBER 12TH, 2025

Summary

Real America’s Voice – Joni Table Talk (October 12, 2025)

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Host: Joni Lamb (with guests Joseph Z, Ryan Horton, numerous regular co-hosts)
Main Guests: Joseph Z (author, prophetic minister), Ryan Horton (worship leader and street evangelist)
Episode Theme: Bold Faith, Prophetic Reformation, and Worship Outside the Church Walls
Date: October 12, 2025

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Overview

This episode of Joni Table Talk dives deep into the theme of spiritual boldness and reformation in modern times—framed around “the spirit of Elijah” and the urgent need for generational transformation. Through candid panel discussion, Joseph Z shares prophetic insights and stories from his life and recent book The Spirit of Elijah. The second part of the episode shifts to musician and street evangelist Ryan Horton, whose worship and testimony illuminate the power of taking faith beyond church walls into everyday life. The table reflects on revival, prophetic ministry, and the hope of better days ahead for listeners in all walks of life.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Urgency of Spiritual Reformation

• The panel compares today's spiritual, cultural, and moral climate to the biblical days of Elijah—an era demanding reformers to stand for truth and righteousness.
• Quote: “Evil has reached a tipping point. And in response, God is raising up bold reformers who cannot be controlled by the system of the day.” (Joni Lamb, 02:29)

2. Identity, the Church, and Prophetic Calling

• Lively discussion about the Church reclaiming its true identity—not just in doctrine but through bold works, prayer, forgiveness, and standing for truth.
• Quote: “Identity is essential for us operating in the fullness of our calling and destiny. The church needs to stop listening to false prophets and start leaning into who God says we are.” (Joni Lamb, 04:06)

3. Joseph Z: The Spirit of Elijah & Prophetic Gifting

• Joseph Z discusses his book and explains the biblical “spirit of Elijah” as God’s counter to systemic evil—a spirit of reformation and generational blessing.
  • Prophetic Calling: He recounts his first supernatural encounter at 9 years old (05:53–07:03).
  • Prophetic Experiences: Shares stories, including a vision of 9/11 (11:46) and divine interventions preventing suicides (13:20).
  • On Gifting: Affirms gifts can run in families (“sometimes giftings are there ... in your DNA ... Paul talks to Timothy about the faith in his grandmother Lois and mother Eunice” – Joseph Z, 09:16).

4. Prophetic Gift vs. Psychic Phenomena

• Discussion about “tuning in to the wrong satellite”—how spiritual gifts can be hijacked for darkness if not surrendered to God.
  • Quote: “But [some psychics] have the gift—they’re tuning into the wrong satellite.” (Joni Lamb, 10:28)
  • Quote: “Gifting is gifting ... You can sing in a church or in a nightclub, and the gift is still the same.” (Joseph Z, 10:44)

5. Spiritual Warfare and Call to Salvation

• Both Joni and Joseph urge listeners struggling with hopelessness or suicidal thoughts to seek God and call the prayer line.
  • “Don’t take your life. Come to Jesus right now … Jesus loves you, and there’s nothing you can do about it.” (Joseph Z, 13:23)
  • “This is your moment to step into purpose. Reformation is alive, and God wants to move through you ...” (Joni Lamb, 28:22)

6. The Biblical Story of Elijah

• Joseph Z retells the story of Elijah as one man standing against systemic evil—confronting political and occultic power (16:21–19:06).
  • Memorable Moment: “One reformer against an army of darkness. … It was the lowdown hoedown at the showdown!” (Joseph Z, 17:31)
  • Sarcasm as a prophetic trait: “One of the gifts of a real prophet is sarcasm. … Maybe [Baal] is on a trip, maybe he’s in the restroom!” (Joseph Z, 19:16)

7. Reformation Framework: Agents of Change

• Joseph Z categorizes reformers:
  • Burnt Stones: Seasoned warriors (“the John Rambos and Rockys,” 24:22).
  • Young Lions: The energetic next generation.
  • Cinderellas: The creative outcasts repurposed for God’s kingdom.
  • Rudolphs: The prophetic misfits whose uniqueness becomes their strength.
  • Quote: “His oddity became his commodity.” (Joseph Z on Rudolph, 27:09)

8. Worship Beyond the Walls: Ryan Horton’s Street Ministry

• Ryan shares how worship in public spaces changes lives, telling dramatic stories from the NYC subway and Bourbon Street.
  • Story: A violent man in the subway is transformed by the declaration of Jesus’ name (45:28).
  • Stresses the authority of Jesus’ name (“When you declare the name of Jesus … darkness trembles” 47:33).
  • Engagement with skeptics and even opposition from police—and how love and persistence open doors (54:55).
  • Quote: “We always lead off with love, and that’s our heart even in our tone … but just by speaking the name of Jesus—his name alone is highly offensive to some.” (Ryan Horton, 54:55)
• Video segments illustrate spontaneous moments of worship, prayer, and outreach. Even those deeply resistant are touched or transformed (see the story of the Muslim police officer, 54:55–56:41).

9. Hope for Better Days and Victory

• Both in conversation and through Ryan's music, the show repeatedly affirms: no matter the difficulty, better days and “victory in Him” are possible.
  • Songs such as “Better Day” and “Victory” serve as declarations of hope (34:21, 58:32).
  • Memorable Quote: “There is coming a better day. All your pain is washed away.” (Ryan Horton, 34:21)
  • “I got the victory, victory, victory in Him!” (Ryan Horton, 58:32)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “He’s like the Michael Jordan of prophecy.” — Joni Lamb on Elijah (07:29)
• “God wants to bring a restoration … not just in physical families but culturally.” — Joseph Z (05:53)
• “You can never say the wrong thing to the right people … but you’ll know you’re not with your tribe: you can’t say the right thing to the wrong people.” — Joseph Z (23:49)
• “Our calling is outside the four walls.” — Joni Lamb (44:58)
• Storytelling Moment: Joseph Z recounts an accurate prophetic warning about 9/11 a week prior (11:46–13:20)
• Testimony: Ryan Horton’s encounter with a resistant police officer, who is moved to tears by worship (54:55–56:41)
• Prayer for Salvation and the Despairing: Joseph Z leads a moving direct appeal to those considering suicide or feeling lost (13:23–14:24; 27:48)
• On spiritual boldness and the cost of truth: “The moment you begin to stand for God … darkness always points at the righteous and says, ‘You’ve done this!’ even though they’re the ones guilty.” (Joseph Z, 17:00)
• Hopeful benediction: “God has a specific purpose and plan for you right now … what you’re walking through now is just a chapter in your story. It’s not the end.” (Joni Lamb, 57:05)

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Notable Segment Timestamps

Panel/Prophecy & Reformation

• 02:29 — Opening panel: Spiritual urgency, call to reformers
• 05:19 — Joseph Z explains “spirit of Elijah,” shares prophetic testimony
• 11:46 — Stories of prophetic warnings (9/11 premonition)
• 13:23 — Direct exhortation to the despairing

Scripture & Prophetic Discussion

• 16:21 — Old Testament crisis: Elijah vs Jezebel/Ahab; principles of reform
• 17:31–19:06 — Mount Carmel, humor and confrontation

Reformation Agents

• 23:49 — “Tribe” and alignment; choosing ministry by God’s calling

Worship and Street Ministry

• 34:21 — Ryan Horton’s “Better Day”
• 43:32 — Audio montage: NYC subway worship and testimony
• 45:28 — Missions, miracles, and confrontations in the field
• 48:50 — Ryan sings “You Are Worthy of It All” to New Yorkers
• 52:09 — UCLA street encounter: “There is coming a better day …”
• 54:55–56:41 — Stories about opposition, police encounters, power of worship
• 58:32 — Closing with Ryan Horton’s “Victory” and hopeful exhortation

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Episode Takeaways

• Bold reformation and prophetic ministry are urgently needed in an age of deep spiritual and cultural upheaval.
• Everyone can be an agent of change—regardless of background, past hurts, or social quirks (burnt stones, young lions, Cinderellas, and Rudolphs).
• Spiritual gifts must be surrendered to God and used for good, not the “wrong satellite.”
• Worship and witness outside church walls—through bold, loving engagement—transform lives in unexpected places.
• No matter how dark circumstances may seem, there is hope for “better days” and ultimate victory in Christ.

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Summary Table

| Segment | Topic | Guest(s) | Timestamp | Highlights | |---------|-------|----------|-----------|------------| | 1 | Spiritual Urgency | Panel | 02:29–05:05 | Reformers needed for our times, parallel to Elijah's era. | | 2 | Prophetic Testimony | Joseph Z | 05:19–13:20 | Joseph Z’s calling, hearing God’s voice at 9, prophetic experiences, 9/11 warning. | | 3 | Spiritual Gifts & Warfare | Joni/Joseph | 09:16–11:23 | Gifts run in family, difference between godly gifting and psychic phenomena. | | 4 | Scriptural Foundation: Elijah | Joseph Z | 16:21–19:55 | Detailed retelling of Elijah’s showdown; links to confronting darkness today. | | 5 | Agents of Change | Joseph Z | 23:49–27:29 | “Burnt stones,” “young lions,” “Cinderellas,” “Rudolphs” as types of reformers. | | 6 | Street Worship | Ryan Horton | 34:21–58:32 | Personal testimony, worship in NY and Bourbon Street, miraculous stories, closing song “Victory.” |

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This rich and engaging conversation will encourage anyone longing to see spiritual revival and practical faith in action—whether through prophetic ministry, music, or bold everyday witness.

Transcript

[Joni Lamb]

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[Joseph Z]

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[Ryan Horton]

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[Joseph Z]

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[Joni Lamb]

Well, just like in the days of Elijah, evil has reached a tipping point. And in response, God is raising up bold reformers who cannot be controlled by the system of the day. And today's guest is one of them. But before we get to that, joining me around the table is Cindy Johnston. We want to be a reformer for the Lord. Yes, me too. I'm ready to fight. But we should be able to turn evil to good and by our works, by the word, by making changes. That's right. Being those willing to make the changes. Yeah. You know, Dorothy, we see a lot going on in the world today. Oh, my goodness. And I think it's really a really important time for the church to stand up, to pray and to see reconciliation, forgiveness, and love, but to stand for truth. Exactly. Like now is the time. You know, the past is gone forever, but the church now, today, we still have a chance, you know, and we have to operate in faith, in prayer, more now than ever before. It's crazy. It's true. Rachel Ann Brown. How are you? I'm good. You know, I feel like we have seen so many churches and leaders from that era rise up in boldness to reform and to just stand up for things that maybe they wouldn't have before. And so it's encouraging to see the body of Christ rising up in this time, in this hour to really make a difference. Yeah. Rebecca Lamb Weiss. The body of Christ and the church many times gets a name that's really not who and what we are and what God wants us to be. And this is the time to really shine, don't you think?

[Joseph Z]

Yes.

[Joni Lamb]

You know, I think identity is essential for us operating in the fullness of our calling and destiny. And so I think the church needs to stop listening to the false prophets and start leaning into who God says we are in his word and who the Holy Spirit tells us we are. That's true. Kendra. Kelly, Dean. Hey. I think it's beautiful whenever we remember that we are and we have to stand up for righteousness, and when we do that, he takes care of the rest. But we have to be bold enough to be that. Yeah, do it. But we do it in love. You have to, like, not with hatred and anger and unforgiveness and vitriol, you know, that's not the way the body of Christ should operate. Not at all. Well, today's guest is a prophetic powerhouse who's here to share insights from his book, the Spirit of Elijah. Please welcome our dear friend, Joseph Z. Come on in there.

[Ryan Horton]

All right.

[Joni Lamb]

Hey, how are you?

[Ryan Horton]

Good to see you.

[Joseph Z]

Good to see everybody. It's good to be at the table.

[Joni Lamb]

Hey, good to have you back at the table.

[Joseph Z]

Thanks for having me, Jonah. This is great.

[Joni Lamb]

Well, you heard everybody talking, and we really are at an important time in history.

[Joseph Z]

Yes, ma'.

[Joni Lamb]

Am. And I guess every generation kind of feels like their time is the important time. But why do you feel like this is an important season for us?

[Joseph Z]

Well, because so many things are lining up with Bible prophecy. You know, you just keep your eyes on Israel and you see things moving biblically, and we're just getting closer and closer to the end. You know, a lot like you just said, every generation believes it was their last days or whatever. But, you know, this is our last days. You know, whether or not this is the very end of the end, this is our last days and we gotta make a difference.

[Joni Lamb]

So talk about your book, the Spirit of Elijah, how the Lord spoke to you, gave it to you, and just kind of how you even were called into prophetic ministry for people who don't know what that is.

[Joseph Z]

Sure. Well, the book was the result of something that I was processing and thinking about, how to make real generational change. And, you know, one of the scriptures we know and the way we understand it is that God wants to send the spirit of Elijah to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children and the children back to the fathers. And we see so much challenge in our generations today where there's abandonment, separation, all these things. But the Lord wants to bring a restoration, not just in physical families, but culturally. And there's so much we could get into with that. But that being said, when God called me into the prophetic and the way he walked me into it, I was nine years old when I first heard the voice of God standing in a field. Nine years old. And I thought it was my dad calling me. It was an audible sound. I thought it was a voice that was on the wind and like an echo. And my goodness, when I heard this, I just began to get on my ATV and drive back to the house and say, why were you shouting for me? What did you want? And come to find out, he said, I wasn't calling you. What's the matter with you? Get back to work. And. And so I began to have these encounters since I was a young boy, into my early years, in my twenties. And then I started understanding what it was after I got born again.

[Joni Lamb]

What were some of the first things, like prophetically the Lord showed you and for people who don't understand what the prophetic is, that's in the Bible.

[Joseph Z]

Yes, ma'.

[Ryan Horton]

Am.

[Joni Lamb]

And God is one of the nine gifts of the Spirit. Of course it be, but it's also the fivefold ministry and so the office of a prophet. And of course, Elijah was a great prophet in the Bible. He's like, everybody wants to be like Elijah.

[Joseph Z]

He's like the Michael Jordan of prophecy.

[Joni Lamb]

But what were some of the early prophecies that the Lord showed you that you were just like, wow, yeah.

[Joseph Z]

When I was younger, it was more experiential prophecies. So it was a little more wow. With a little bit of terrifying attached to it. Because when you don't really understand what's happening and you get a raw gift, it's interesting what can take place. But one example of that is I was at a family member's funeral. I'm standing at the grave site, and suddenly they start reading from a journal that this family member had written while they were in their bed. And all of a sudden, as I'm listening to this, I supernaturally found myself standing in that room, and I'm looking at this person penning this journal, and it emotionally impacted me. And all of a sudden, I'm back at the grave site and I'm weeping. Okay. I'm still a young boy, and I'm weeping. And people are saying, man, you're taking this really hard. You know, what's wrong with you? And we're not like a crying family. And so I'm sitting there, and I'm just, like, coming unglued because I didn't quite know how to work through. Right. So I had that kind of thing happen. Another.

[Joni Lamb]

And so had there really been a journal where he had written?

[Joseph Z]

Oh, yeah. They were reading from it at the funeral. And as they're reading from the journal and we lost them to cancer, all this. But as they're reading from the journal at the funeral, I'm listening to it, and they're talking about it, and all of a sudden, I found myself standing in the room as they were writing it, and I'm looking at them in bed. I'm sensing this. And I felt the grief of the moment, their hopelessness.

[Joni Lamb]

You felt the weight of it.

[Joseph Z]

I did ken it. Just when I came back to it, it was overwhelming for me. So all I needed to do was weep. And people thought, oh, he's so sad.

[Joni Lamb]

Well, and so. But that is from the Lord.

[Joseph Z]

Yes.

[Joni Lamb]

That's not any power that you possess. That's when the Holy Spirit supernaturally shows you things. By the Spirit.

[Joseph Z]

Yes.

[Joni Lamb]

And it's from the Spirit of God.

[Joseph Z]

Yes. Joni, you know, a lot of people. And here's the thing. It is from the Spirit of God. And we're given gifts sometimes at birth that we walk through. You see that in Amos, chapter seven. Amos, chapter seven. He said, I was not the son of a prophet, nor was I a prophet. But then the word of the Lord came to me. You see it when Timothy's talking about, or Paul's talking to him about his grandmother Lois, his mother Eunice, and the gift of faith that was in them was in him. So you can see these things have a precedent, that it can be in your DNA, that sometimes giftings are there. So sometimes people who don't really know the Lord have this interesting calling towards him and they're trying to sort it out. And so then they go to the mystical side of things. And that is not where God's called us to. He's called us to walk with the spirit of God in the word of God, repent and be saved.

[Joni Lamb]

So we have to realize that there's a battle going on, good and evil, and there are powers of darkness.

[Joseph Z]

Yes.

[Joni Lamb]

And I remember John Paul Jackson talked about one time going to a place up in Massachusetts where they had all these psychics. And he just said, the Lord said, I want you to walk down through each little booth and I'm going to show you something. And he would say that psychological, they don't have the gift because the gift in calling God are without repentance.

[Joseph Z]

That's right.

[Joni Lamb]

But he said there were a couple of them, said they have the gift, but they're tuning in to the wrong satellite.

[Joseph Z]

That's exactly right.

[Joni Lamb]

And he said they're tuning into. To darkness and demonic spirits.

[Joseph Z]

Yes.

[Joni Lamb]

And so there's a difference. And you have to be tuned in to the Lord.

[Joseph Z]

Well, you got to recognize first of all that gifting is gifting. You know, you'll see people that, let's say a family of musicians. Have you ever seen a family of musicians that can play music and they play violin, one plays piano, and they all seem to do it. But when, when there's singing taking place, you can sing in the church or you can sing in a nightclub, and the gift is still the same.

[Joni Lamb]

Right.

[Joseph Z]

And so what we've got to do is line up with the Holy Spirit. If you feel this unction or you feel like, man, I have. Maybe some people call them premonitions or I feel something before it's happening. You probably have an inclination to the prophetic, but you need to bring it to the word of God. You need to get born again, know Jesus and really begin to train that gift biblically.

[Joni Lamb]

So that's the first step is inviting Jesus into your heart.

[Joseph Z]

That's right.

[Joni Lamb]

Asking him to forgive you.

[Joseph Z]

Sure is.

[Joni Lamb]

And that's just a prayer way. We'll do that later. And if you haven't prayed that prayer. But just it's really, really important, some of you watching, you can relate to what we're talking about. We didn't really understand it. What was one of the early kind of things prophetically that God showed you was going to happen.

[Joseph Z]

9, 11.

[Joni Lamb]

Okay, so tell us about that.

[Joseph Z]

Yeah. One day I woke up and I had a dream and I saw seven tornadoes hit Americ.

[Joni Lamb]

When was this? Like, how far before?

[Joseph Z]

A week before. A week before? Yeah. So it was a week before. And I remember telling everybody, I said, I had this dream. I'm panicking because I felt the pressure of it. And I said, what is this about? And I began to tell everybody around me, I saw America covered in red, like a weather map. It's all red. Severe thunderstorm warning. It was flashing at me. And then I saw these seven tornadoes, and two of them were invisible. And I said, what's this all about? And it was representing judgment. There was a number of things. And I began to tell everybody, and they said, just calm down. You know, you had too much Dr. Pepper or something, whatever it was. And I was just saying, no, something real is happening. And when it happened, I recognized there was a prophetic language involved with this that I needed to understand. And it began to develop into that. And I've seen that kind of thing over and over again. I've gone to people that I knew they were going to commit suicide. And I would show up and say, you are about to try to take your life. And they'd say, no, I'm not. And the spirit of the Lord showed me so clearly that I pressed into them and they finally admitted it. You know, those kind of things. I was at a youth camp that way I stood up when I was preaching, years when I was younger, stood up on a chair and I said, the Lord showed me that there's a person that you're going to try to kill yourself tonight. And you were. You were planning to do it in this room this way, and you were going to basically do something really graphic. And I explained it. And they. They came running forward and crying, and they got totally broken through. So I would start seeing these things before they happen.

[Joni Lamb]

Speak to that person right now that's watching, feeling that way.

[Joseph Z]

I want to just look right at you. If you're going through a time where your heart has bottomed out, you are no longer full of energy, you suddenly feel empty on the inside. You feel rejected. You feel like there's no hope for tomorrow, and you're feeling like your life may be at its end, I want to say something to you. Give God one more chance. Give God one more chance. We're here for you right now. I bless you in Jesus name and I speak to the wound in your very soul right Now, Jesus loves you, and there's nothing you can do about it. He wants you to win more than you do. And I begin to call to you right now. I just speak the presence of God that would come and heal your wounded heart, heal your mind, heal that conflict and that argument and the rejection you've just gone through. I'm telling you, God wants to walk you out of that right now. Don't do it. Don't take your life. Come to Jesus right now. And I encourage you, call the number on the screen if you need help. We'll talk to you. We want to hear from you.

[Ryan Horton]

Hallelujah.

[Joni Lamb]

Well, we kind of went that direction because that's how much the Lord loves you. There's someone watching that you have been thinking about, you know, really don't want to keep living.

[Joseph Z]

Yes.

[Joni Lamb]

But God is saying to you today, yes, beyond this, you're going to get through this. And when you do, on the other side of it, I'm going to use you to be a blessing to many people. So I need you to be strong right now and don't give up and don't succumb to whatever feeling or emotion. Just know God is going to see you through if you'll take him by the hand. My grandpa used to say, now, Joni, don't let go of his hand. He'll never let go of yours.

[Joseph Z]

Oh, that's good.

[Joni Lamb]

Just reach up and grab the hand of the Lord and say, hey, God, I need you to help me with this. And he will. Okay. The spirit of Elijah. Let's talk a little bit about who is Elijah for people who don't know. What is the spirit of Elijah and what are you trying to say in this book?

[Joseph Z]

Well, what I'm really trying to say is that darkness always sows. It sows evil, it sows malevolence. It sows control. It tries to control the culture and just bring terrible things to pass. It operates in a spirit of Antichrist. You see it from Nimrod all the way to the man of sin in the Book of Revelation. What the spirit of Elijah does is it is the reaping for the sowing of evil. In other words, when evil sows and it does not repent, eventually it's going to reap. And when it reaps, it will reap a reformer. And that reformer brings about a reformation, something darkness can't control. And so when that begins to happen, it changes society. It changes the power structure of things, and it's almost a form of God's judgment against evil. By rewarding the good. And he brings that forward. So that spirit of reformation is what it really is. So in America, we just saw that. We've seen that in a number of spaces. But really there's something God wants to do for every nation right now that just brings life to people.

[Joni Lamb]

Yeah. So Elijah was a great prophet in the Old Testament.

[Joseph Z]

He was.

[Joni Lamb]

And so what evil was going on that God had to raise up a reformer and a prophet called Elijah?

[Joseph Z]

Well, Jezebel was a young lady that was raised by a witch king. You know, her dad was into the occult. She did all these things. She herself was practicing the occult. Marries Ahab. Ahab married her because it was a political move.

[Joni Lamb]

And he was the king of Israel.

[Joseph Z]

Of Israel at the time. Yes, ma'.

[Joni Lamb]

Am.

[Joseph Z]

And he was in this place, and he began to build these temples to occultism.

[Joni Lamb]

Foreign gods.

[Joseph Z]

Foreign gods and do all these things. And so they persecuted the prophets, they put to death prophets. And then Ahab was the worst kind of person because he didn't really stand for anything. He would glad hand the prophets one day and then have them killed by Jezebel's orders the next day.

[Joni Lamb]

He was double minded.

[Joseph Z]

He was double minded. The prophet Elijah came and confronted that system. So you see him confronting a political system and a supernatural occultic system. And when he did this, that is why when he said, it will not reign in this land until I say so. Then when he came back and Ahab saw him, he said, who are you, you troubler of Israel? You're the troubler of this area. You made this happen. You're the bad guy in this narrative. And that is always what that spirit does. It points at the righteous and says, you've done.

[Joni Lamb]

Even though they're the ones that are.

[Joseph Z]

Guilty, they're the ones that are guilty.

[Joni Lamb]

Right.

[Joseph Z]

And so he confronts this. And Jezebel gathered to herself all these false prophets, these prophets of Asherah. They ate at her table. Then There was another 450 prophets of Baal that were gathered together. And you put that together, you got 850 occultists. So I call it one reformer against an army of darkness. Right. When Elijah came to Mount Carmel, the only reason they went to Mount Carmel is because the famine had got so severe that when he showed up in front of Ahab, Ahab says to him, you know, what are you doing, you trouble of Israel? And he's, I want to meet you on Mount Carmel. And the only reason they listened is because they were in dire straits. They knew this is it. They were killing animals. To survive everything. So all the people showed up at Mount Carmel. 850 prophets, false prophets, occultists. And you got Elijah there, and he has a throw down. It was the lowdown hoedown at the showdown, right? He's there and he's bringing it to pass.

[Joni Lamb]

And so the whole thing is, for people who don't know that Bible story, there was an altar there. And so what was the, if you will, the edict that was thrown down as far as what would happen?

[Joseph Z]

The God who answers by fire.

[Joni Lamb]

God will answer us by fire.

[Joseph Z]

The God who answers by fire. But one thing Elijah said to the crowd that I think is amazing, he said, if you're going to serve the baal, serve them. If you're going to serve God, serve them. And they just didn't answer him a word. Then he says to them, let's see who answers by fire. Let the God who answers by fire, let him be God. And the people nodded and said, what you say is good. In other words, they didn't want to hear another philosophic. They wanted proof. And so Elijah got up and said, I'm going to show you. I'm not going to tell you. And so he did that. And when it went down.

[Joni Lamb]

But didn't he give the 850 prophets a chance to call down?

[Joseph Z]

Oh, he did. Yeah. You know, the sarcasm.

[Joni Lamb]

And what happened? They did all their rituals. Nothing happened. Yeah, their God didn't show up.

[Joseph Z]

Their God didn't show up. They're cutting themselves. They're crying out. And of course, Elijah, one of the gifts of a real prophet is sarcasm, because he sort of. I'm telling you, Joni, you're the prophet wrangler. You know what I'm talking about. But one of the gifts of the prophet is really sarcasm. Mock them. He began to cry a little louder. Just cry out to them. Maybe he's on a trip. Maybe he's in the restroom. Maybe he's got a. You know, just maybe he's busy right now.

[Joni Lamb]

And then he added to it by saying, drench the altar with water before I pray.

[Joseph Z]

Yeah. Dig a trencher on it. Soak the water. And he did. And when the fire came, what did he say? He said, God, let the God of fire answer this thing. He called up to God and said, send fire, O Lord.

[Joni Lamb]

And then it was, like, over.

[Joseph Z]

Oh, it lapped up the water. It destroyed the altar. So much fire came. But here's an interesting thing, and I'll just say this point. When Elijah said, now seize these prophets and kill them. They Took them down into the valley off the mountain. And that valley was the valley of Megiddo. He took them down where there's going to be the Battle of Armageddon. So it's a type and shadow of the last great battle. Elijah took them down there and had them all slain and their families. And then he said, there's a God in Israel.

[Joni Lamb]

Why do you think God reveal himself through demonstrations of power?

[Joseph Z]

That's a great question. I think God likes to do it because he wants to be pursued. He doesn't just do it, he wants to be pursued. I asked the same question of the Lord, Rachel. I asked him one time, God, why is it you speak in symbols and numbers and dreams and unique things? Why don't you just say it plain? Like, just say it plain, other than the word of God. When you give me a revelation, just come and talk, you know? And he told me, I like to be pursued. And when we pursue the Lord, he will show up in demonstration and do that Also in the Old Testament, the reason God would show up as a pillar of fire, do things, smoke on the mountain, is because there was no mediator. So God, holy God, was trying to come into the natural, a fallen man, saying, I want to be your God. You're my people. He comes manifesting out of the natural into the sin environment. And all those people experienced was thunderbolts and lightning. Very, very frightening. And God told Moses, Moses said, lord, the people are afraid of you. If we bring an animal to the mountain, they're going to die. If they come close to you, they're going to die. And the Lord said, they're right, Moses. If they come close to me, I'm going to kill them all. The reason was there was no mediator, no Jesus. And God the Father, who is pure holiness, was now gazing on pure sin in the natural. And that created that type of environment. So that is where some of the manifestations also come from.

[Joni Lamb]

So the sons of Issachar, you talk about that in the.

[Joseph Z]

Yes, the sons of Issachar are. You know, they're really kind of like a parallel of the Chaldeans that Daniel oversaw that actually ended up being the wise men that came to find Jesus. The sons of Issachar actually got involved in political things in those days. They stood and stood with Saul during his regime, but just kind of held back. But when David came into power, they really helped David establish his kingdom, and they stood in that capacity. But there's an interesting thing about the sons of Issachar. Very interesting. Everybody knows that they're called to discern the signs of the times and know what to do about it. We know that about the sons of Issachar. But when we're looking at a movement for the nation or for what God's calling the church to do, or in your personal life, there's something really revealing about the sons of Issachar. First, they know the signs of the times. A lot of people might know that. You got a lot of YouTube prophets that know the signs of the times, and they're in their mom's basement eating Hot Pockets. But then you also have those that can discern it and know what. So we got two things. They know the signs of the times and they know what to do about it. But that is not all that one chronicles, chapter 12, verse 32, says about the sons of Issachar. It also says that their chiefs and their brethren were at their command. Now, what that means to me is that there's three things that the sons of Issachar bring that we can learn from. One, you got to discern the signs of the times. Number two, we need to know what to do about it. But number three, we're incomplete unto. We know our tribe. We know our people. You'll know you're with the right people because you can never say the wrong thing to the right people. But you'll also know you're not with your tribe and your people because no matter what you say, you can't say the right thing to the wrong people. So whenever you have that understanding, you'll realize tribal alignment and being where you're supposed to be is super important. That's why I say all the time, Joni, you can't go to the church of your choice. You go where God calls you. You don't just go do the ministry of your choice. You go where God anoints you to be. And if God's called you you, hell can't stop you.

[Joni Lamb]

Yeah, that's right. You talk about agents of change. Who are the agents of change?

[Joseph Z]

Well, that's the body of Christ. But there are specific anointings, Cindy, in that. And here's what I classify them as. So we're going to get into a little prophetic speak here. This is pure symbolism. But you recognize, number one, I call them the burnt stones. There's burnt stones. In other words, those who have been really tenured, they've been through fights, they've been through battles. And what they are is they're like the old John Rambos out there. In other words, they've been through wars. They got scars everywhere.

[Joni Lamb]

They're like Rocky.

[Joseph Z]

They're like Rocky.

[Joni Lamb]

Yeah.

[Joseph Z]

And they're out there in the back 40. They're done with the fight. They don't want to do it anymore, so they go hide. And usually you find them out sharpening a stick by a fire. They're not happy anymore. And suddenly the Colonel comes to get them because they've been through a lot of difficulty. And when he comes to get them, he says, hey, we have an unprecedented threat like we've never seen before. We need your help, Johnny, you know. And he says, I don't do that anymore, Colonel. I'm done. Find somebody else. And eventually he realizes how severe it is. He puts on the bullets, he puts the knife back in the belt, and he goes back in, and just for the sake of appearances, leaves his shirt off. Amen. Anyway, and he goes back into battle. That's John Rambo. But then you realize the second one is the young lions. The young lions are those that really. They're those that have been raised up and they're called. They're young. It says in Proverbs, chapter 20, verse 28 and 29. It says in verse 29 that the. The glory of young men is their strength. The glory of old men is their gray hair. Okay. I like to say, what about no hair? And so when I'm looking at that picture, extra glory. Yeah, that's what I'm. Oh, wax. Glory hallelujah. Look at the shine. But you recognize something about it, that when you have old men with gray hair and young men with strength, there's an exchange that happens. Old lions, the burnt stones, they need to go back in the wall of Nehemiah. Those burnt stones fell out. They're burned and charred. You clean them out, get them back into their post, then you have the young lions, and those have strength, they have ability. You combine that, and now you're starting to see the spirit of Elijah. Bring a generational merging, and that's very important. Young lions grow weak and hungry, but they need burnt stones, older warriors, men and women who can say, hey, don't go that way, don't walk that way. I've been down that road. There's a landmine there, you know, but then there's the third one, and that's Cinderellas. And Cinderellas are those who've been captured by the institution. They're those that have inspiration, ideas. They're original. They're very original. They're creatives. Yeah, and they're like a Nikola Tesla.

[Joni Lamb]

Something Like that they've been stolen away and used for the world instead of the kingdom of God.

[Joseph Z]

That's exactly right, Joni. And then they find the glass slipper. That's Reformation. They start to stand up in what God gave them. And then the fourth one.

[Joni Lamb]

And we're seeing some of that happen, like with people even in Hollywood. We are who come to a knowledge of Christ.

[Joseph Z]

It's so true.

[Joni Lamb]

It's just like right out in front. It's so true. Can you believe something so and so is out there getting baptized?

[Joseph Z]

Yeah, so and so. I think it's so amazing to see that. And they're outspoken about the Lord.

[Joni Lamb]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joseph Z]

I call it Outcast. Turned into broadcast, maybe with a podcast.

[Ryan Horton]

Right.

[Joseph Z]

But there's a fourth one. And this is where the kind of the prophetic people come in. And I call them the Rudolphs. You know, Rudolph, he didn't get along with all the other reindeer, the red.

[Joni Lamb]

Nose reindeer, the red nosed reindeer, but.

[Joseph Z]

That was the very thing that got them through that foggy Christmas Eve. And his oddity became his commodity.

[Joni Lamb]

And so they're a little different, can be a little odd.

[Joseph Z]

Oh, they're. Aw, yeah. I mean, think about Rudolph. I mean, there's so many people watching right now. You probably are a Rudolph, you know, and you've been through things, but God loves that.

[Joni Lamb]

But we need all of those to have the spirit of Elijah really form into what it needs to be today.

[Joseph Z]

That's correct.

[Joni Lamb]

That's good. The spirit of Elijah. What a great book. We barely scratched the surface. I saw you did Forward by Perry, Stone and Renner. They've been here at the.

[Joseph Z]

Gotta love Uncle Perry.

[Joni Lamb]

We love them.

[Joseph Z]

We do.

[Joni Lamb]

We do. But in closing, just take about a minute, if you would, Joseph, and pray the prayer of salvation. For someone who maybe doesn't know the.

[Joseph Z]

Lord, I would be honored, too. I want to just say to you right now, if you don't know Jesus and you're not sure if you died right now, where you would go, I want you to just simply say this to the Lord Jesus, save me, rescue me. I repent of my sin. I believe in my heart God raised you from the dead. And I confess with my mouth, you're my Lord. I trade my life for your life. If you prayed that prayer, welcome to the family. And please call that number on the screen. We love you. Welcome to the family.

[Ryan Horton]

Amen.

[Joni Lamb]

You know, it's hard to believe that a prayer that simple can change your life. But it can. For those of you that have never prayed that Prayer, or maybe you did when you were younger, or maybe you were in church, you of kind gotten away from the Lord. Just renew that and pray that prayer from your heart. God will hear you and everything will change. And I just believe that just like we've been talking about, God has a specific purpose and plan for you right now. So we are out of time. But I want you to remember this is your moment to step into purpose and reformation is alive and God wants to move through you to transform hearts, nations and generations. All you have to do is say you, yes, some of you, we mentioned earlier, you've been going through something very difficult and you just, you've almost felt like fainting. But the Lord is saying today, don't faint, don't give up, Stand back up and garner your courage that I've given you and continue on through because I'm going to use you in a great way. Even some of the very things, the trials that you've gone through, he's going to take those and use them, help others and for his glory. You can't see that right now, but I'm telling you, on the other side of it is reward. If you'll be faithful. If you're watching today, if you need prayer for anything, if you've prayed that prayer with Joseph, that's why that prayer line number's on the screen. We have amazing prayer partners that are standing by. But I do want to thank Joseph for joining us today. Be sure to pick up a copy of his book the Spirit of Elijah. For more, you can visit him [e-mail] his last name is very hard to say, so josephz.com as always, make sure to follow us on all social media. Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full episodes and exclusive content. Let us know how Table Talk is touching your life. We love hearing from all of you, so let us know how Table Talk's touching. Of course you can also listen to the Joni Table Talk podcast, available now on all major platforms. But I want to thank you for watching. Thank you Joseph for being here today. And just thank you those of you that have allowed God to penetrate your heart today. Because I'm telling you the best is yet to come. So you hang in there. We love you. See you next time. Bye bye. For today, the US Electric grid is.

[Joseph Z]

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[Joseph Z]

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[Ryan Horton]

What? I told people I was making a podcast about Ben Gosley. Nine times out of ten, they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or.

[Joni Lamb]

Just asked, why Benghazi? The truth became a web of lies.

[Ryan Horton]

It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory.

[Joni Lamb]

Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre?

[Ryan Horton]

Bad faith, political warfare, and frankly, bullshit.

[Joseph Z]

We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together. Together.

[Ryan Horton]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?

[Joni Lamb]

Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything.

[Joseph Z]

That'S been going on for the last 20 years.

[Ryan Horton]

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[Joseph Z]

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[Joni Lamb]

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[Ryan Horton]

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[Joseph Z]

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[Ryan Horton]

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[Joseph Z]

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[Ryan Horton]

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[Joseph Z]

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[Ryan Horton]

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[Joseph Z]

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[Joni Lamb]

Well, today's guest is more than a musician. He's a messenger, turning street corners and everyday moments into powerful encounters with God. Please welcome Ryan Horton as he performs Better Day.

[Ryan Horton]

He sees you you and he loves you. He'll always meet you when you where you are. He's ready, he's willing. There's nothing wasted in the father's arms There is coming a better day Day Better day All your pain is washed away Washed away There is coming a better day and all your tears are wiped away Wiped away Yes, they are Snow land to heaven there's no struggle that the sun has ever known he's mercy hallelujah he waiting to save us he let's come and make us oh There is coming a better day Better.

[Joseph Z]

Day.

[Ryan Horton]

All your pain is washed away Washed away.

[Joseph Z]

There is coming a better.

[Ryan Horton]

Day all your tears are wiped away Wiped away Yes, they are all away they're all gone right? They're all gone right now. Wherever you, wherever you lost another ashamed of yours Open your eyes I need yes, sir. He loves you. He'll always meet you anywhere you are.

[Joni Lamb]

Well, you know, so many feel like their best days are behind them, but Ryan Horton is here to share a message of hope. This story is not up, and better days are still ahead. But before we get to that, join me around the table is Kendra Kelly Deane. There's a better day. That's a good word. I love that. And I do. I love these shows because I love meeting the artists and hearing their story and their testimony and why they're so passionate and their expression of worship and what God's done for them. If we could just get Anna Kendall to love music. Oh, I know.

[Ryan Horton]

I know.

[Joni Lamb]

She's our Broadway lover. That's a joke, by the way. Anna sings at every table before. I know so many songs, I just should be one of the singers. Know every song.

[Ryan Horton]

Yes. Okay, we'll do it.

[Joni Lamb]

Rachel. Yeah. Rachel Lamb Brown, you love the music. Your husband has big part of music. He loves music. And my little boy, Judah Bray Brown, he loves music. And he happened to be here today, and he was in the green room next door and said, I need to go talk to the worship leader and was adamant. He went over there and he goes, I just need to make sure you know the words. You know the words for your performance.

[Ryan Horton]

So funny.

[Joni Lamb]

He just wanted to make sure that. Dorothy Newton, how are you? I know you love worship music.

[Ryan Horton]

Oh, I do, I do.

[Joni Lamb]

But now I'm excited about street worship.

[Ryan Horton]

I am.

[Joni Lamb]

Because, you know, What? I could just sing as loud as I want to. Yes, you can. That's right. And in heaven, you're going to be up in the choir, right? Yes, I decided. All right. Cindy Murdoch, how are you? I'm doing good, thank you. It's great to be here today. Ryan Horton, welcome back to the table.

[Ryan Horton]

Hello, ladies. I'm so excited to be here today.

[Joni Lamb]

Good to see you. So good to have you. And of course, for people that don't know you, go to the highways and byways and compel them to come in through your worship, through music. That's an original song that you wrote. Beautiful. Tell us a little bit about growing up in that moment that you really surrendered your heart and life to Jesus and his plan for your life.

[Ryan Horton]

Yeah. I was about 20 years old. I was on a park bench in my little city. Just felt like the Lord had been, like, revealed through my. My dad and my grandfather. They pastored for years.

[Joni Lamb]

It's interesting that you're on a park bench outside. I mean, it's kind of like the Lord's already showing you you're going to have a different kind of show.

[Ryan Horton]

Yep, yep. And so, yeah, I just. This park bench, he really started coming after my heart. That particular day. I surrendered to the Lord, had a encounter with God to where I just closed my eyes and honestly got lost. You've probably heard stories where, you know, minutes feel like hours in the presence of the Lord and you're just. You're just lost with the Lord. And that was kind of one of those moments for me. It just deepened for about the next six months. Me just sitting on that park bench, getting to know the Lord for myself, seeing him start working in miracle signs and wonders just there around that little lake. So that was my encounter with the Lord.

[Joni Lamb]

Yeah. So how long did that happen? Did that last that day?

[Ryan Horton]

Yeah, I think it was probably about a two hour encounter. I remember it being really significant and really stamping my heart. So it was super special what led up to it.

[Joni Lamb]

I mean, because there wasn't a preacher preaching, like, what happened to make you all of a sudden open your heart and say, okay, Jesus, I need you? Right.

[Ryan Horton]

Yeah. For me, I grew up in the church, did a lot of serving in the church, had seen a lot of people do the same. But I also seen people come by that were genuinely filled with what I would consider the fire of God. And when they spoke something and declared something, they had authority to do it. And things began to happen when they declared something. And I knew that I again had Just kind of been going through the motions, but never really had this covenant with God, me walking with him daily. And so I think that was the thing that I was just at this weary place. I mean, I just hit 20. There was some life situations that were going on. I was dating girls and all this stuff at that time, and, you know, coming out of bad relationships and blah, blah, blah. And you just get to this place to where you're like, man, I really know that there is more. And I want to encounter God that way.

[Joni Lamb]

And that's really. For someone that's watching right now, man, you can relate to what he's saying. Like, you know about God. You might have even gone to church or been to church, or your mom or dad might know the Lord. Your grandma or your grandpa or somebody in your family, or maybe nobody. But there's just an emptiness there that only Jesus can feel. And you just have to just ask him to come in, and he will change your life and put you on a path of purpose like you've never seen before. So if you haven't received Jesus, do that right now. Just invite him in. You know, it wasn't a sanctuary, but Ryan made it one with pure worship. This is what he does now. I saw this video on Instagram, Kendra, and it so touched me. It was so anointed. I was like. I told the guest coordinator, I want him to be on the show, want everybody to hear what he does and pray for him. And this is right in the heart of New York City, and it's just anointed. And you see God using him with everyday people. This is outside the four walls of the church. Let's take a look.

[Ryan Horton]

We give you heart the Lord. We're just out here singing to Jesus, man, at no money. We want to pray for him. Can we pray for you? We pray for you. We can pray for you. All right, Jesus, we love you. Bless my brother in the name of the Lord. Amen. Amen. Bless you, man. Jesus, Jesus. Jesus. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Come on, just sing it as loud as you can. We give you all. We give you the glory. We worship you, O Lord. Cause you are worthy to be praised. If you know this song, just sing it with us. We give it you, oh glory. Yeah. We worship you. You are worthy to be pray.

[Joni Lamb]

I love that. How much y' all love that. Anna is ready to get up and shout, run around the table. I'm telling you right now. Well, you know, Ryan is married, has three little boys. He lives in Florida but he makes his way to some of the big cities, like New York City, to minister to those that may never come into a church. Tell us a couple of the stories of lives that were changed as a result of you being at the right place at the right time, singing what you say, you sing a worship song to their soul. Yeah.

[Ryan Horton]

Amen. So the first time we ever came to the New York subway, this guy came up to my face about six, three. Big old guy started hollering, cursing, shouting, doing the whole thing. We'd never seen this guy before. And I told my guys, I said, hey, let's go for it. So we started singing There's Power in the name of Jesus. We began to declare that overhead. I mean, I was like, you know, I'm only short guy. 5, 7, 5, 8. I'm all up in this man's chest, pointing at him and going at it, but just declaring that, man, there is real power and what. Whatever is causing the dysfunction right now, it has to come in order. And we begin to sing that way. And we saw that guy go from rage to just weeping uncontrollably. We were out in Mardi Gras and on Bourbon street, and it was just wall to wall with people. It was crazy.

[Joni Lamb]

And you've got your microphone, your keyboard player. I love that microphone, by the way that reverb going. Manuals are right, Kendra. We love that, don't we?

[Ryan Horton]

Same.

[Joni Lamb]

Come on.

[Ryan Horton]

So we're out on Bourbon street and we're singing and going for it, and we're, you know, seeing beer bottles being thrown over. And, I mean, it was. Bourbon street was probably the wildest environment that I've been in. It was so cool.

[Joni Lamb]

Especially during Mardi Gras. Yes, Right.

[Ryan Horton]

And my. My keyboard guy, he almost got punched in the face. And there was two guys that saw that, and they came up and they were like, man, we're going to stand here and protect you guys the rest of the night. They showed us their guns. I mean, it was wild, wild west out there. But these witches started coming and throwing beads at our feet, you know, and trying to cast spells. And we just took our authority in that space. Like, for real, for real. Like, not playing around the authority, but, God, we need you to come and meet us right now.

[Joni Lamb]

What were you singing? What were some of the songs?

[Ryan Horton]

The songs. Power in the Name of Jesus. That's a big one. Because I just like to declare his name in those atmosphere.

[Joni Lamb]

Well, something happens when you declare the name of Jesus.

[Ryan Horton]

Yeah. Amen. Amen. We started singing Jesus, you Make the darkness Tremble, that song. I was in the subway and this guy started acting up. Naomi Raines was with me, and this guy started acting up. We started singing, Jesus, you make the darkness tremble. And that brother, he got right in order. I mean, it is really supernatural to see these people that are just. They'll behave all crazy, and really what they're doing is manifest. And you start calling that thing into order. There was a brother. I'm thinking of so many stories right now, but there was a brother in Union Square. We started singing the name of Jesus. He started slithering around us like a snake. And I just look at him and say, hey, stop. And he just immediately stops. And the power of the Lord came. And just. So many stories of the Lord showing out right before our eyes on the streets.

[Joni Lamb]

And, you know, you're planting a lot of seeds that you don't even know the end result of what's going to happen. But just them hearing the music and hearing your heart, you know, on the streets of New York, he goes there a lot. Ryan declares this powerful truth. God is and always will be. I love this song. Worthy of it all. Here's another one of the encounters.

[Ryan Horton]

Okay, I'm going to sing you a song about this man with the plan. All right. You are worthy of it all. You are worthy of it all. For from you are all things to you are all things. You deserve the glory. Do you know who I'm singing about? You do? Do you know him, bro? Do you know who I'm singing about? Yeah, man. Is Jesus. And don't never let you down. He never let you down. Oh, but never let you down. He'll never let you down. Oh, Jesus will never let you down. He'll never let you down. Cause you are his. Love you, brother. Bless you, man. You know him for real, man. All right.

[Joni Lamb]

I love that. I can tell it's touching you, Kendrick, because you go outside the four walls of the church. I hope it's okay if I tell this, but you and a group of ladies just felt on your heart actually go to some of the strip clubs and minister to those ladies. Yeah. And so it really touches you when you see the world being touched, because you're going into their environment and you're letting know that you matter so much that I stopped what I was doing for the day and I came to where you are, just like Jesus does. And just the thought of the people that you pass on the streets or in the subway, you don't what's going on in their life that Day, you don't know what their marriage is like, what doctor's report they just received. And they may have just been sitting there saying, God, I just need to know if you're real. And then boom, those doors open and they step off, and then you're just singing. You feel this amazing presence of the Lord. And that's what you're doing is you're on the close to heaven. I mean, that's what we sense right here even as we're watching it. And that the presence of the Lord is right there in the room where you are. Just receive from the Lord. Just say, lord, I want everything you have for. Thank you for touching me today. Some of you need healing in your body. That presence of the Lord is right there. Just receive right now in Jesus name. Just say that in the name of Jesus. The name that is above every name. The name of Jesus. There's power in the name of Jesus. Quickly, Ann, I know it's touching your heart to hear the music. Oh, absolutely. And just to see the worship and how that does change the atmosphere, you know, we forget the power in the name of Jesus. We were in Santa Fe, New Mexico, one time and going from a parking lot into a restaurant, and this huge dog came after us. And my husband said, I take authority over you in the name of Jesus. And that dog just slithered away, you know, I mean, it is so powerful, no matter where you are, it can change the atmosphere. That's right, Rachel. Yeah. You know, it started as a simple ministry moment at UCLA until the Holy Spirit took over. Let's see what happened happen next.

[Ryan Horton]

Hey, you got. I want to sing you a song from the Holy Spirit. All right. What's your name, bro? B. Gotcha.

[Joseph Z]

All right.

[Ryan Horton]

He sees you and he loves you Nobody will do you like he can oh, he sings you and he loves you There is coming a better day and I feel this for you D. All your pain is gone away Gone away oh, there is coming a better day oh, your pain is gone away oh, yeah There is coming a better day Better day yeah all your pain.

[Joni Lamb]

I love that. What happened, Ryan, when he came down there and sat.

[Ryan Horton]

Oh, my gosh. He came down and he wasn't even supposed to be there, that he was supposed to be in class and he couldn't go because he was so messed up. I really believe in my spirit that when I first engaged him, you could tell he was just not cognizant. He was drunk, he was stumbling. He was doing all this stuff. And when I started talking to him, after that song and started talking to the spirit man on the inside of him. He sobered up to a degree where I could tell it was penetrating. Going past just him hearing me, but it was going to his heart. We started talking about the love of God and how the Lord loved him so much that he sent us. We weren't even supposed to be there that day, and he sent us to UCLA on that Greek row just to love on him.

[Joni Lamb]

You know, it's obvious there's a calling on your life. It's such a beautiful thing. I just absolutely love, love how you guys are taking it to the streets because that's the way it's supposed to be. You know, my question is, you know, coming face to face with opposition, like, you know, does the law support you doing this? I mean, how do you handle that? I understand the calling because when in scripture, in Jeremiah, scripture says, obey my voice and I will be your God and you will walk in all the ways. And I believe you are doing that. So I know that God is preparing the way for you, but how are you staying supported, you know, in that cause?

[Ryan Horton]

Yeah, you know, we always lead off with love, and that's our heart, even in our tone, even in the way we talk with people and. But it doesn't matter how loving you are. There's passages in the Word that even declare that there's going to be people that you run into that just by speaking the name of Jesus. His name alone is highly offensive to them. And we know that it's only offensive most times, often than not, because they've had a bad encounter with a church person or something like that. And we just try to look past all of that and continue to wrap our arms around them. But, you know, there's been a few times to where, you know, the law, they'll come up and they'll say, hey, you can't do this here, or whatever. We actually have to tell you one quick story. We went down to the subway one night, and it was heavily policed. More than typical. And so when I see that, I just go right up to these guys and start trying to get their permission. Hey, man, to this police officer, do you mind if we set up and do some music? This guy, for whatever reason, asked me, what kind of music are you going to do? And I said, well, well, we're Christians, and so we just want to worship Jesus for a minute. And he says, well, I'm a Muslim. And he says, and I really don't. I'm not about that. I don't want that. And again, the spirit of boldness just came over me. But in love, I said, hey, brother, can you give me one song? And if something doesn't shift in this moment, in one song, you stand right here the whole time. We'll pack everything up and go. He says, I give you one song. We looked up 30 minutes later, that brother had crocodile tears coming out of his eyes.

[Joni Lamb]

I love that. I love that. I love that. We're going to be praying for you. We're out of time. But for people that are watching that may just want to support you as you continue to do street ministry, how would they get in touch with you?

[Ryan Horton]

The best way to get in touch with us is Horton Worship on Instagram. That's our handle. And so if you just find our page, you can reach out to us directly and we can go find.

[Joni Lamb]

Okay.

[Ryan Horton]

All right.

[Joni Lamb]

Well, we're out of time. I want you to remember, God hadn't forgotten about you. What you're walking through right now is just a chapter of your story. It's not the end. And if you will open your heart and receive Jesus and those of you that know Jesus, then you have to know that your future holds brighter and better days than you can imagine. Just like the song that Ryan wrote. If you're watching today and you need prayer, call the number on your screen. Prayer partners are standing by. If you prayed that prayer and asked Jesus into your heart, call us and let us know. I want to send you the book of John from the Bible. It's a great place to start in the word of God, and I'll send that to you absolutely free. But I do want to thank Ryan for joining us today. You can find his single better day on all major streaming platforms. As always, make sure to follow us on all social media. Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full episodes, exclusive content. Let us know how Table Talk is touching your life. We love hearing from you. You can also listen to the Joanie Table Talk podcast, available now on all major platforms. Well, we couldn't let Ryan leave without sharing his new song. Here it is. Victory. Thank you so much for watching. We'll see you next time. Bye bye for today.

[Ryan Horton]

Whatever battle comes against me, more than a conqueror in Christ I know that a window weapons form I still got heaven by my side I got the victory, victory, victory, victory in him I got the victory, victory, victory in him Jesus. Well, listen to this part right here. I am a testament of mercy Come and see what the Lord has done he took these rhymes and turned them into Rose he sought and bought me with his blood I got the victory, victory, victory in it. Come on, sing it out. I got the victory, victory, victory, victory Darkness all around me Enemies surrounded I know where the battle ends I got the victory, victory, victory he puts the enemy on the mountain on the mountain, on the mountain he puts the enemy under my feet under my feet, yes, under my feet under my feet it puts the enemy under my feet under my feet Come on, say it with us. Right here. I got the victory.

[Joseph Z]

Thanks.

[Ryan Horton]

Victory, victory in him. I got the victory, victory, victory in him. Here we go. The darkness all around the enemy surrounding I know where the battle is I got the victory, victory, victory the enemy. We got it. In you go. I got the, I got the, I got the victory.

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[Ryan Horton]

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[Ryan Horton]

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[Ryan Horton]

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[Ryan Horton]

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[Ryan Horton]

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[Ryan Horton]

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