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The virus known as COVID 19 has caused a global pandemic and an uncertain future. 85% of the deaths that have occurred.

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Could have been avoided. What made the difference?

C (2:52)

Early treatment. There's a whole lot of lies here, like the origin of the virus.

B (2:58)

They literally weaponized the virus, and it produces the most toxic protein known to men.

A (3:04)

It's freedom, not fearedom. So I've always known. I said this is a medical issue, but it's a constitutional crisis.

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This vaccine should not have been injected into a single human in the first place. I can't think of a more important right to fight for right now in America. Because if there's a medical product you don't want to receive and you refuse it and you can't get a job without it, then you don't have any.

A (3:40)

Well, you know, the pandemic raised many questions about health care, individual rights, and vaccine risk. And today our guests will discuss the future of public health care and how we can be prepared. First, joining me around the table is April Simons. I'm so thrilled that we have a place that we can go and talk about these things and not be censored. Oh, it's so good. And we talk about it all here. Thank you for allowing us on here. And our guest. How great to have a praying doctor with us today. I know that loves Jesus. Yep. Anna Kendall, how are you? Just great. And, you know, I love the way God strategically positions experts in the body of Christ to bring truth. So I'm excited about today. Rachel Lamb Brown, we always love these shows to just inform our audience. Yeah, you know, Covid was such a terrible time for so many, but I feel like it's something that God used to expose these things that had been hidden in plain sight for so long. And so I feel like now people's eyes are opened not just to all the things around Covid, but like so much more when it comes to vaccines and really saying, where's the research behind this? And is this safe? And should I be giving these things to my children? And I think that's important. It really is. And Dorothy Newton, that's one of the things we talk about and we'll talk about with our guests today, is that let's look at the science. Absolutely. Let's look at the test. Let's look at, you know, let's look at and see did we really have the science behind a lot of this stuff that's doing. That's right. Knowledge is power. And, you know, that's what I like about sitting at this table is because the information is up to us and we get to be informed with accurate data and information so that we can make the choices. That's right. And, Cindy, that's the thing. We don't tell people what they should or shouldn't do. We just try to offer information that they might not have heard or understand. Absolutely. And I just want to commend you, Bestie, the courage and the boldness to take a stand when nobody else would or so many wouldn't and bring on doctors like our guest today to spread the truth. How many times, I don't even know how to tell you. I've run into people that said, I didn't know this channel existed or I didn't know this show existed, but it saved my life, saved my family's life because of the information. Amen. Around the world, we hear from and my dear friend Dr. Richard Bartlett is here. So good to have you.

C (5:58)

I am so thankful to be with you. Women of wisdom.

A (6:02)

Hey, I love that. Wow. Wow. Women. Well, Dr. Richard Bartlett has been a strong voice for truth in healthcare, from treating COVID 19 without shots to exposing the risk of modified RNA vaccines. And today he's here to discuss the future of healthcare and how we can protect our rights. Now for people who don't know, and they're watching for the first time. 2020. Take us back to March. You're an emergency room doctor. You've been appointed by Rick Perry to be on all these committees, his personal advisor for the state of Texas. You know, you're loved and revered, and you're in the emergency room, and I'm.

C (6:37)

In the emergency room. March of 2020, we had not had one Covid case in Texas yet. It was in the news all the time. They were having the White House coronavirus task force updates that would randomly show up on the tv. And so me and the CAT scan tech and the nurse were constantly watching the TV for those outbreaks, for those upd, not getting any information every time. And so I was praying under my breath between car wrecks, heart attacks, strokes, sewing people up. Lord, what do I do if someone comes in here with COVID and they say, I can't breathe? And I was very upset, as we all were. But I'm an ER doctor. I'm used to fixing people. And they're telling me there's nothing I can do? That didn't set well. And so on that shift, I had a break between patients. Went to the call room to take a cat nap. And while I was asleep, God gave me an answer to prayer. And it was simple. It was brilliant. It was Something that sounded too easy. And to a lot of doctors it still does. But it was an inhaled steroid, Budesonide, given as a nebulizer treatment, aspirin and an antibiotic called clarithromycin. Now, four years later, Australia added it to one of the first steps for treating Covid in their 840 page document.

A (7:52)

Wow. Now you had a patient that came.

C (7:54)

In, has it and yes, your first patient. Yeah, my first patients five days later.

A (7:59)

Was Covid, type 2 diabetic, right?

C (8:01)

Yeah, you're exactly right. Five days later I had my first COVID patients. They had diabetes, high blood pressure, short of breath, chest pain. It was a husband and wife both suffering for five days, racing to the er, calling me on the phone. And we used the treatment and they bounced out of the hospital, shocked the doctors and nurses and hospital and that started this crazy ride and trying to say that there's something we can do for Covid besides holding your breath, hiding, sheltering in place, being afraid, being very afraid, or getting a shot in the arm.

A (8:32)

Well, you were excited about sharing the information. Were you shocked with the pushback and the cancel culture that began to take place against you personally?

C (8:42)

Right. We were all told that you need to do your part. And so I was doing my part, just trying to get some useful information out and wow, the pushback worldwide, globally. If you go to budesonideworks.com you'll see you can click on links of videos showing Fauci, Dr. Tedros from the WHO, doctors that were the chosen doctors to be medical experts on major networks. All trying to discredit me. Trying to. Without any science behind it, trying to discredit you. Rain on the parade. You're making temple live. Yes, and they were living. Praise God, he still heals people.

A (9:21)

Well, you know, in how many times did I call you and say, Dr. Farley, you got to help these people? And you would call them personally and you would tell them how to address the doctor in the hospital and say you have rights for your patient and make them give them Budesonide, which is a safe, you know, the inhale that used for premature babies. Used for, like you said, 30 years.

C (9:46)

You're correct. For over 30 years, budesonide was given to 2 pound premature babies in the NICU without batting an eye. That's as delicate as there is on the planet. And it's readily available around the world at every pharmacy on every corner. And it's generic. It's been out for over 30 years. No one's going to make any money off of it. Thus, it wasn't promoted as opposed to. There is a product that eventually is out for treating Covid, and it's brought to you by Pfizer. And the cash price is over $1,400 for 10 pills called Paxlovid.

A (10:18)

What is the protocol for patients coming into the error, you know, as far as their rights are concerned.

C (10:24)

So as far as rights in my er, the only one with a vote, the only one with the decision making is the patient or the patient's family. That's the way it should be. Boy, we saw that totally distorted during COVID where patient rights were violated. One of the patient rights is informed consent. According to the American Medical association code of medical ethics, doctors have a responsibility to tell informed consent, and patients have a fundamental right for that. But what is informed consent? Three parts, very simple. Every treatment option, the risk and benefit of every treatment option. And if there's a financial conflict of interest, I never would have thought that would even be an issue. But we have seen during COVID all three of those have been violated.

A (11:08)

Wow. Well, you know, there was one patient's health that was rapidly deteriorating. This is just one story. So many. But after following Dr. Bartlett's protocol, he made a full recovery in just weeks. So let's watch Daniel's incredible story.

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I had a hard time being able to eat.

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My oxygen level and dropping.

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We need another doctor asap. Three days of the treatment. Three days.

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Doctor said will not work. It will not work. And look where I am today. Praise God and thank you, Dr. Bartlett. 14 days out. Wow. You know, so many people like him were then put on a ventilator. And how many people died on a ventilator and never got this treatment?

C (13:01)

So in the beginning of the pandemic, it was on the national news that at the beginning in 2020, when people were placed on the ventilator with COVID diagnosis, 80% died. That was on the record. You can look that up. But we actually had people like Richard Jones wife. And that story was on the show in the past a couple of years ago, where he called me and said, my wife is on the ventilator. She's only been in the hospital four days with COVID The doctor in the hospital called me three times, asking me to give a DNR and hospice order and let me pull the plug on my wife. And I said, no, My wife made me promise to do whatever we could so she could be here for our children. The doctor was so angry the third time that he said no, that the doctor said, well, we'll get a court order and we'll pull the plug on your wife without you.

A (13:47)

Oh, my goodness.

C (13:48)

That's what kind of things were happening during COVID He called me after that. The doctor spoke with me. He gave Budesonide to her. In one week, she was off the ventilator. In two weeks, she was home with the family. Three years ago, she's still here. And I was shocked one time to talk to a pulmonologist in Florida at the family's request. And the doctor was honest enough to say she's a pulmonologist treating Covid for several years. And she had never heard of the Stoic trial, the principal trial out of Oxford University, randomized controlled trials published in mainstream journals, confirming what I had found, that Budesonide works against Covid and she gave it to the loved one. And the loved one bounced right out of the hospital, even though he had cancer and he was in the 70s and he was. They were. And they were about to put him on a ventilator, and he came home.

A (14:38)

Why does it work? Why does it work?

C (14:40)

So Budesonide is an inhaled steroid, and it was studied. It decreases inflammation in the lungs, it decreases mucus production, it shuts down the release of cytokines. In Egypt, they did a study that was published in 2017 in the Saudi Journal of Anesthesia that showed it shuts down the Release of Interleukin 2 and 6 and tumor necrosis factors, cytokines that are involved in the inflammation, and it improves oxygenation. These were people on the ventilator in the ICU given budesonide nebulizer treatments in 2017. And so it's effective against Covid. That's been proven over and over again. Every single study shows it's effective. And yet you have people that are embedded in the medical establishment that push against all that knowledge. Why? I'm going to say follow the money. At this point, I have no other explanation.

A (15:35)

Well, you know my friend Dr. Simone Gold, she tweeted in the emergency room there in California with hydroxychloroquine. And the lady recovered, and then they came and told her, you can't use it. Then Dr. Pierre Corey, you know, ivermectin. There were. There were other protocols that people were denied. We talked about here, but it was shocking to see what happened. How many people would still be alive if they had been allowed some of these protocols.

C (16:02)

So Oxford University is the oldest university in the English speaking world since 1096, that has 72 Nobel Prize laureates. Oxford University is a credible source of information. Oxford University confirmed what I was saying, that budesonide works against Covid. They did a study, they stopped it on day 28 early, because they said it's unethical for us to continue to give a placebo to the group that has Covid when we have something that could save their life. And they said their conclusion at Oxford University on their website still says that 90% of people would not have come close to a hospital if they were treated with Budesonide early. And so they said it would have prevented 90% of hospitalizations, ER visits and urgent care visits. Even if they were treated just with.

A (16:47)

That, would it not potentially work if it was given too late? And why?

C (16:51)

And so here's the other part, that there were protocols that were done that had risk in hospitals, including IV steroids, which have a known risk of causing a GI hemorrhage, GI bleed. And when I looked at the death certificates, COVID death certificates In New Mexico, 10% of the COVID deaths in one year had on their death certificate GI hemorrhage, bleeding to death. But they were still called a COVID death. And so that's one of the risks that the public was not told. With a standard protocol that is still used in hospitals.

A (17:25)

Why would it cause them to bleed?

C (17:26)

Because we know IV steroids increase your risk of ulcers. And so how many people in the United States, when you're using one size fits all, how many people have a history of ulcers? How many people smoke, how many people are on Prevacid, Nexium, Omeprazole because they have problems? And then you're going to give them IV steroids, you're going to increase their risk of bleeding to death from, not from COVID but from the medicine. The other thing that was given was remdesivir, which the WHO said in November 2020, they looked at 480 hospital systems worldwide and they said, looking at over 13,000 patients, that they, they had statistical evidence that didn't save one life yet. Remdesivir was what was pushed. Remdesivir that was stopped during the Ebola outbreak in Africa because it was killing more people than Ebola.

A (18:23)

It was a kidney failure.

C (18:24)

Well, from a lot of things. It even causes a cytokine storm as a risk. What does Covid cause? And you're giving them A medicine. And how many people were told all the risks, informed consent? I'm going to say that people's basic patient rights were totally violated during COVID.

A (18:41)

Well, and what about the fact that family members weren't allowed in the room?

C (18:45)

All of this was unethical.

A (18:46)

People died alone because family couldn't be there.

C (18:49)

Thinking about it.

A (18:50)

I mean there's so many things that were wrong about it. I really think people today are, we have been awakened. I don't believe that we're going to let it happen again. But let's talk a little bit about the future. Like one of the, you know, some of the things we're hearing, the new pandemics that are coming and oh, the whole mask thing. And you know, don't you think people have gotten smart on the science concerning that?

C (19:15)

So health officials that are embedded people who do not, many of them not Christians by the way, who may think science is their God. There's a lot of or they may be the center of the universe in their mind. But the bottom line is most of the public is aware, but there are people that are embedded that still will push future pandemics. And so the WHO listed nine pandemics. If people go to johnfleetwood.com, jon Fleetwood.com they can read a two minute read about the future pandemics that the WHO is listed. Many of them viruses, all of them have vaccines that have already been created. How do you make a vaccine to a disease that hasn't happened yet?

A (19:56)

That's what. How. That's crazy. These pandemics, it's like they're planning them.

C (20:01)

So Plandemic.com is an interesting documentary that people can watch for free. There's also fall followthesilenced.com and that actually just came out showing the people that have been injured by the COVID shots.

A (20:14)

There are a lot of doctors though, like yourself that are true doctors and your goal is to help people first, no matter the cost. And you've paid a huge price under Dr. Peter McGullah, Simone Gold, Pierre Corey, all of them tried to be canceled, but they stood in the face of truth and said, we will not stop talking about this. Was it worth it for you to go through what you've gone through?

C (20:39)

It was what I was supposed to do.

A (20:41)

Yeah.

C (20:41)

We're here serving the God of the living. We're supposed to choose. God told all of us life and death are before you. Blessing and cursing, choose life. And so that's, as a Christian, that's in our spiritual DNA to help People. To save people.

A (20:59)

Yeah. Well, you know, to help keep people safe and make sure science is done responsibly. President Trump signed an executive order to stop gain of function research. This was. This was very important. Explain to our audience what gain of function is and why this was so important that he did this.

C (21:15)

Excellent point. And I want to say Bobby Kennedy was in the background when that happened. This happened in a coordinated effort, team effort between President Trump and RFK Jr. And so we need to pray for RFK.

A (21:27)

Amen. We do.

C (21:28)

And so I encourage the viewers to pray for rfk. But gain of function research is dual purpose technology. The first is to make a bioweapon. The second is to make a countermeasure to a bioweapon. Bioweapon is in both of those definitions. And so where did Covid come from? Well, the White House, the FBI, the CIA, the Department of Energy intelligence branch, even Germany's intelligence in 2020 all concluded that it came from a laboratory. Viruses, wild viruses come from nature. Bioweapons come from labs. Covid came from a lab. The shots came from a lab. They didn't come from nature. And so gain of function research, our federal government, taxpayer dollars, were going to other countries for gain of function research around the world. And with RFK's input, President Trump signed an executive order to stop that, that we're no longer going to fund gain of function research in other countries. Thank God for rfk. Thank God for the intervention. Thank God for President Trump doing that well.

A (22:35)

And you know, for years, the CDC pushed the COVID vaccine, but now they will no longer recommend it for healthy children and pregnant women. This is a big win. Let's take a look.

C (22:46)

Hi, everybody.

B (22:47)

I'm Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

C (22:49)

Your HHS secretary, and I'm here today with NIH Director Dr. Jay Bhattacharya and and FDA Commissioner Dr. Marty Makary.

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I couldn't be more pleased to announce.

C (23:00)

That as of today, the COVID vaccine for healthy children and healthy pregnant women.

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Has been removed from the CDC recommended immunization schedule.

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Last year, the Biden administration urged healthy.

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Children to get yet another Covid shot.

C (23:17)

Despite the lack of any clinical data to support the repeat booster strategy in children that ends today. It's common sense and it's good science.

B (23:27)

There's no evidence healthy kids need it today, and most countries have stopped recommending it for children.

C (23:33)

We're now one step closer to realizing.

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President Trump's promise to make America healthy again.

A (23:40)

Produced by the U.S. department of Health and Human Services. Oh, that was. That was a huge win. I mean, we were going the wrong direction before Bobby Kennedy got put in that position.

C (23:51)

Pray for rfk. And I'm going to say what that did was something that was historic. You had the FDA commissioner telling the whole truth that we have no evidence that this is a good idea to give children and pregnant people the COVID shots.

A (24:08)

They actually are trying to follow the science.

C (24:10)

They're actually telling the truth. And so have we had anyone tell us that something wasn't true from the FDA or the cdc. We had the CDC director saying if you get the COVID shot, you won't get Covid that everybody knows was a lie. We had the CDC director saying if you get the shot, you won't spread Covid. And that was parroted by mainstream media personalities over and over again. It was not true.

A (24:34)

And who's been pardoned?

C (24:35)

Oh, yes, a preemptive pardon by the spokesman for everything that was taking away people's rights. Constitutional rights were violated. Basic constitutional right of going to church of worship.

A (24:51)

Right.

C (24:51)

Yet churches were closed and pastors were fined. Yet you could keep the strip clubs, the bars and the liquor stores open at the same time.

A (25:00)

And wasn't he pardoned like within the last hour? A Biden mean president, which he should be held accountable along with so many others. That's another whole thing about an auto.

C (25:09)

Pin I don't know well.

A (25:12)

And RFK wrote a book on the real Anthony Fauci. Thick book. You should read it if you want to know more about that. Well, after significant pushback, the Senate is finally investigating the hidden risk of the COVID 19 vaccines. Let's hear what our dear friend Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Jordan Vaughn and attorney Aaron Seri had to say at the recent Senate hearing.

B (25:34)

Again, in layman's terms, talk about why this caused so much harm in so many different ways. Because the biodistribution. Dr. McCulloch, the vaccine was never safe.

C (25:45)

Enough for me to take. Messenger RNA devised by Pfizer Moderna has been chemically modified to be unassailable to.

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Enzymes in the body to be broken down.

C (25:57)

The messenger RNA is found in the human heart of people who die after the vaccine. It's found in the brain.

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The spike protein is found everywhere in the body. Three studies now show the spike protein is circulating in the blood for six.

C (26:14)

To nine months after people take the shot. This part of the virus, the lethal part of the virus in the vaccinated. It's circulating in the blood and then they take a booster, they get more Circulating the blood. It is a killer protein. It cannot be safe. It was not safe by design.

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Safety trumps efficacy.

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We cannot tolerate false drug claims.

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I have treated approximately 4,000 patients suffering.

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From long Covid and vaccine injury or both.

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Many were young and previously healthy.

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For those with vaccine injury, trust in public institutions has been shattered.

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Many were coerced under the August 2021 federal mandates. Despite legitimate hesitations due to prior infection.

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Or personal health risk, they knew their.

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Body better than the agencies now disabled.

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They are dismissed or ignored by the.

B (27:07)

Systems that mandated their compliance. Well, that's what we often see. The underlying data is not typically really carefully evaluated claims about what vaccines do when they're positive because our health agencies are responsible for promoting them. Easily made claims that vaccines cause any harms or injuries often get ignored, no matter how good the underlying data.

A (27:29)

So I do want to say this, Dr. Bartlett, is that we don't want to evoke fear because, you know, God trumps anything bad going on. He's bigger and we've seen a lot of miracles and a lot of people innocently got the shot. They're suffering some of the, you know, after effects. But we're going to pray for you and believe God to turn that thing around because you've seen him do that over and over. You know, there's. You have to look at the pamphlet. There's other stuff in that, right?

C (27:59)

Read the package insert. You're exactly right. I tell parents, be informed. Informed consent is the right thing. Be an informed parent. And what you're hearing in the messaging is everybody gets the same thing. Everybody should get a shot in the arm. And the truth is, if you look at the package insert, it lists people that should not get the shot. That is contraindicated for many people. And also that there's a risk with it.

A (28:23)

Well, and you know, Cindy, I was thinking, really, all of us here, the vaccines that we got as children, very small amount versus 70 something, you know, for kids, it's just crazy what's going on. But hopefully a lot of that can be rectified. And thank you for what you do and for being such a blessing and helping. And I just want to say if you're watching today, we don't want you to be fearful because God hasn't given us the spirit of fear, but of power and of love and a sound mind. He doesn't want you to be fearful. And we just want to pray for you and let you know that, you know, the most important thing you can do. And Dr. Bartlett would agree with me. Wholeheartedly is just if you don't know the Lord, that you take a moment to invite him into your heart, into your life. And that's really easy to just say, jesus, I need you. I don't really know what these people are doing over there, but I'm going to invite you in and he will come into your heart, forgive you, change your life and heal you. We're going to believe the Lord to touch you in a special way. God, for everyone that's watching right now that they have symptoms or they're sick in their body, we just ask you right now in the name of Jesus, just to touch them and heal them. Your word says that by your stripes we are healed. And I thank you, Lord, for touching people right now. Well, if you're watching and you prayed that prayer or if you felt the Lord touch you, I want you to call that prayer, prayer line number that's on the screen. We have amazing prayer partners that are standing by ready to pray with you. And really that's the most important thing that we can do today. I want to thank Dr. Bartlett for joining us and sharing this information and information you may not know. And again, you pray about it, you make the decision that's right for you. We're not going to ever tell you what to do, but you can get more resources and information about his work. You can visit budesa9work. I help so many people get ventilators and budesonide when this is going on so they could breathe and they didn't have to go to the hospital. So as always, make sure to follow us on all social media. Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full episodes. Exclusive content. Let us know how Table Talks touched your life. Do you like having programs like this? We love hearing from all of you. You can also listen to the Joni Table Talk podcast, available now on all the major platforms. Thank you, Dr. Bartlett. Thank you ladies and thank you for watching today. Be encouraged and don't be afraid. God is with you. He loves you and we're going to get through this in Jesus name. We'll see you next time. Bye bye for today.

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So what happens when the kingdom of God isn't just talked about but truly lived out? Walked out. Well, today's guest has seen how simple obedience brings supernatural impact, and he's here to share. We're all invited to do the same. But before we get to that, join me. Around the table is someone who has walked in that God sent supernatural things in your life and used you. And it really came with that one word. Just surrender and obedience. Surrendering is everything. And you know, there's a saying, I'd rather see a sermon than hear one Any day. And I think that we really see who Jesus is by, especially by this guest that we have. It's just so neat to see people actually doing what the Bible tells us to do. Yeah. Anna Kendall, how are you? I'm just wonderful. If you could just be a little bright for us today. Bright and beautiful. Thank you. Rachel Ann Brown, how are you? I'm good. I'm excited about today's guest. I love hearing people's journeys and, you know, what the Lord has brought them through. And it always is so encouraging. It really is. And Dorothy Newton, how are you? I'm doing so good. So good. Happy to be here. Yeah. And always excited about what we talk about. I think it's just always powerful, transforming, and redeeming. And the new grandbabies are doing good. Doing really good. You see her light up on that? She really lit up on that. They're doing really good. So much fun. Awesome. Cindy Murdoch. How are you? Hey. I'm good. You got family that's, like, coming in or. They're in or.

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Yes.

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Coming to beer? Yes, they're here. And that's exciting. There's a big smile on her face as well. Well, he is the lead pastor of Pathway Church and International Ministry. Please welcome our dear friend, Pastor Travis Johnson. Come on in, Pastor.

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Hey. It's good to see you.

A (35:42)

All right. Good to see you. Yeah.

C (35:44)

Thank you.

B (35:45)

Thank you.

A (35:46)

Thanks for being here today.

B (35:47)

It's great to be here with you guys, with you ladies.

A (35:50)

Yeah. Get ready. You got the ladies of the table for sure.

B (35:53)

I have a lot of girls in my house, so I've been properly vetted for this moment.

A (35:57)

You're used to the estrogen. You're good. You're good.

B (35:59)

Let me have this coffee.

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Well, from church planning and revival in Cambodia, Pastor Travis Johnson has lived a surrendered life. He's here today to share powerful stories of courage, conviction, and what can happen when we say yes to God. Tell us about your first yes to God. I think you're about 17, because, you know, like, people watching. We can know about God but not know God. Yes, exactly. I mean, we can believe that he died on the cross, but not receive salvation ourself might not have a personal relationship. I did that for years. Yeah. I mean, know all about him but not know him. So that's what we want to talk about today. That's so important that you know him and he wants to know you. So your first yes.

B (36:42)

Thank you, Joni. I'm a pastor's kid. I grew up in the church.

A (36:46)

Yeah.

B (36:46)

And I Was really blessed because my dad and mom, they were the same people in the house as they were in the pulpit.

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But that doesn't make you a Christian too.

B (36:54)

No, not at all. It did remove some of the questions and drama that you have. When I was 17 years old now, I had already. I had accepted Christ. I'd been baptized, but I owned my faith. When I was 17, I had a friend, he was Jehovah's Witness. We would hang. Now, I don't know how Jehovah's Witness he was, but that's where he went to the Kingdom Hall. And we would go to this rock pit in Miami after school and go swim. And it was about 20, 30ft deep. And we would, you know, it's also Miami, so there's stolen cars. We would swim down to the bottom and look at the stolen car.

A (37:31)

That sounds like fun.

B (37:33)

You know, that was back Gen X. You know, Gen X, we didn't have all of the safety plugs and all the corn, you know, so we were just doing stuff, which by the way, you can do things, right?

A (37:43)

Yes.

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So he raised questions about Jesus and he was sharing with me. He said, you know, Jesus was not almighty God, that he was the son of God, but he wasn't God. And he showed me in his Bible the New World translation. It said in the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God. Said the Word was a God. And I thought, well, I had memorized that passage. It says, in the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Verse 14 says, and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. And so I had some questions there and then I'm already a little bit skeptical. So I read that. And then I got a Greek, Hebrew, interlinear Bible, which is so weird for 17 year old.

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Next level.

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That is so cool, you know, But I could see the words in Greek. I could see the words in Greek. And then below there was a mistranslation. I actually studied and saw that Charles Taze Russell, who wrote the New World translation, he didn't even know Greek and Hebrew. It was proven in court of law. So I thought, okay, so that I'm definitely not Jehovah's Witness, But I did have questions about Jesus. Was he a historical figure? It did not take long. I figured that out. But was he God? And I looked at Peter's life. He denied Jesus. Then he went on to be crucified upside down. And as I just looked and saw that all the disciples had all but John. They were all Martyred. What was it? It must have been the resurrection.

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It was the resurrection.

B (39:09)

When that triggered, I was like, okay, I'm all in. And then I was no longer double minded. I wasn't. I didn't have this group of friends. I just.

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Jesus was the Son of God.

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Completely transformed lives.

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I mean, if you study historically, how many witnesses there were that saw him, you know, when he rose from the dead.

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I mean, and you have secular Jewish historians, Josephus referencing. Right.

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I never actually thought about that, but, I mean, I guess that's true. I mean, if these people were willing to die such awful deaths, there had to be something that motivated them. Peter wouldn't even allow himself to be crucified. Stepped upside down.

B (39:44)

Only one. Only one stayed at the cross. John, he was the youngest. But they all transformed.

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John the Beloved on the isle of Patmos. But he had a whole new.

B (39:55)

You know, I do think it's funny. He talks about John the Beloved. Well, he wrote that book, though. If I did that, I would be writing that.

A (40:01)

I know. I get tickled every time I read John because I'm like, you wrote this about yourself.

B (40:04)

I know.

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It's a disciple that Jesus loved.

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My favorite part is that was under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, too.

A (40:10)

That's right. That's right. Okay, so then you realize that at some point you're called into ministry, although you weren't looking to be in ministry. I mean, I hear a lot of PK's say that I was concerned that.

B (40:24)

I would be doing it because my parents did. It's not just my parents, but like four generations on both sides. And I would hear people all the time saying, oh, you're going to be a pastor. You're going to. And that was a very difficult thing to hear. It was cloudy, and actually I was a communications undergrad. And I remember having a conversation with the Lord in the phone booth on campus of my school. Was raining. I stuck.

A (40:48)

You called him up?

B (40:50)

I didn't call. I. Trying to stay dry, actually. So I said, lord, I'll do anything you want if you call me into ministry. I'll go start a church, but if not, I'll take this degree. I'll go make as much money as I can. I'll be the best church member. I mean, I was committed. And then in between my junior and senior year, my pastor at my church saw me cramming for finals at O Charlie's. Hadn't shaved in five days. I had a hat on backwards. And he said, hey, Travis, I want you to come in and talk to me. I want you to be my young adult's pastor.

A (41:20)

Wow.

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And right then, I knew I was gonna be starting a church, and that's where we went. Kelly and I got married. The day after she graduated, we moved to Chicago and started a church.

A (41:28)

Okay. And so tell us about that journey, because I can look over your life, and there's so many churches you started and so many ministries and outreaches. Very apostolic. Like, you start and then move on, start moving. Tell us about Chicago.

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Well, I mean, in the second grade, I was in a gifted program at University of South Florid taking entrepreneurship, and I was flipping pizza slices to college students.

A (41:51)

Oh, my goodness.

B (41:52)

So that was kind of there.

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It was already there.

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Yeah, it's always been there. That's probably something the Lord did. But so, yeah, we started in Chicago. We were there for two years. We started in Humboldt park, actually. It was right down the street from Pastor Choco Willie de Jesus. I mean, he's doing incredible things. And we had a master's commission program, and we had about 13 of our college friends move with us to start this church. One was the offensive line coach for University of Chicago. Another was a counter teacher. You know, actually, Kelly and I moved there, and our first day, I got a job at TGI Fridays, and she got a job at a childcare. And just like, we have 500 bucks in our pocket. Anyway, enough of that.

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Small beginnings.

B (42:31)

Chicago is a little bit of a heartbreak. It was a little bit of a heartbreak. We had a lot of. You know, my pastor encouraged me to start the church in a different place and reach into the city. We had a lot of people, and just. We couldn't fund. We couldn't fund it. So we kind of left a little bit brokenhearted.

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But what did you learn? Because, I mean, that's the thing is that I always say that sometimes you have to walk through certain places to get to where you are today.

B (42:56)

Well, one. By day, I was in a tech startup, and so I learned that, and it changed. It really helped because I didn't do a traditional undergrad for ministry. You know, I went to seminary afterwards. But those skills kind of, like, came into the forefront, and that helped. And it also was clarifying to me also. You know, Kelly and I, it felt like we experienced an injury, a little bit of a broken heart. And, you know, when your body gets an injury, your blood pools to your vital organs. So we got closer as a couple, and it didn't draw us away from ministry. We just. We just want to figure out those Next.

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So how did you know when it was time to go?

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We dismounted a dead horse. You know, really, we had people. But, you know, it just. When things start not going good, then, you know, it just kind of when.

A (43:43)

The brook dries up, you go. So it's kind of like a season. It was a season change.

B (43:48)

It was a season change. Our church actually, our English speaking church actually came in to be an English service for a Spanish speaking church. And so we left with, you know, people intact, but it was time for us to.

A (44:00)

So where did you go?

B (44:02)

Oh, that was nice.

A (44:03)

Doing it right?

B (44:04)

We went to South Mike. Miami, which is where I grew up.

A (44:07)

You went from cold Chicago to South Miami?

B (44:09)

Yes, yes. I was not complaining about that. You know, since the invention of mosquito repellent and air conditioning, the south has been growing. So, yeah, we moved to Homestead, which is South Miami. And my dad had gone through Hurricane Andrew. It devastated the church. His church went from about 350 people to 17 people in one Sunday.

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Andrew was terrible.

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You know, I begged my dad, I was a freshman in college, for all of like a week. And when fall break, I got to him, I said, daddy, please, you know, go somewhere else. And he said, no, I'm the shepherd of this church and I would be a lousy pastor if I left now. I think you can leave a church, right? But he was saying, I'm committed. And actually when I talk, my dad's not past, but when I would talk to him, he would say that was the best time of ministry. And it was amazing. He was a true shepherd. He cut up the pews in his church, turned them in his shelf. They were feeding 5,000 people a day for months and months.

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Wow.

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And incredible people came into that. So I come back, I restart the church. We started with about 30 people. Half the churches and businesses closed. Quarter million people moved out of that area. So it was a very depressed, high crime. During that time, Homestead was at number eight crime city in the US and so God blessed us, it turns out now. So we go back in, we rename the church lifepoint Church. We move into a movie theater. God did a lot of stuff. Today it's one of the largest churches in Miami. It's one of the largest Protestant church properties in Miami. Property in Miami is not cheap. God did so many miracles along the way. And so what was really a difficult start, not only for me, but also for my dad, became really amazing. My dad said we had a great church because our church had the best staff. He was saying he was a staff.

A (45:55)

Love That. I love that. So then how do you go from Miami to working in Cambodia? Yeah.

B (46:03)

My friend Dr. Fred Garman called me up. We were church planting. We were in the early stages. We were meeting in a movie theater. Our soundboard was on a TV tray. And Dr. Fred called. He said, you're coming to Cambodia with me. I said, I'm not. One, I don't have the help to leave. And then two, I don't have the money for it. He said, I'm gonna pay. And then you go, well, turns out I've been there every since. And he was like my hope dealer. You know, the first one was free, and I just kept coming back, but I fell in love with it. And we've done a lot of things. Every year I decided I wanted to do something that raised awareness for the work there.

A (46:39)

And also, why Cambodia? Tell us about what was going on there.

B (46:41)

Well, you had the genocide. You have Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge, which. Communism is terrible. It's like equal sharing of suffering and misery and death. And so you see a quarter 2.4 million people killed in the killing fields. The population was really young. The elderly died off or they were killed. And there were tons of orphans and landmine victims everywhere. So we were doing children's homes. That's kind of how it started. And then we just went. One year, I rode my bicycle across Vietnam, Cambodia, and Thailand to raise money. We raised enough money to build 42 homes and to build a city project. It was a blessing. I fell in love with it, and I was just kind of like a super fan. So when Dr. Fred retired, the board asked me to do it. I said, well, I'm a pastor, and I don't want to stop being a pastor, but I will lead it as long as you guys are okay with me pastoring. And so we did. And God has just. He's been so unbelievably good.

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And so. And you know, the thing about obedience is that God will open supernatural doors and give us favor even with government leaders. You had that happen, didn't you?

B (47:47)

Oh, if I'm in Cambodia and I'm not talking to the parliament leaders. I mean, crazy thing, what I didn't tell you about the phone booth is I told the Lord, I'll do anything in ministry you want, as long as I don't have to speak in front of people.

A (48:00)

Oh, wow. Oh, my goodness. You don't ever tell God what you're not going to do. Like, Moses kind of said he had a problem with that.

B (48:08)

Yeah. So, I mean, We. We end up. We're in parliament. You know, Kelly and I have gotten medals for humanitarian work from the vice prime minister, and we've been able to take hundreds and, you know, over a thousand people to pastors to Cambodia.

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So what about the revival that's happening there? Because, again, you talked about how it was just important to do what you did so that the gospel could be shared.

B (48:36)

Now, we've always gone in covertly because we are unreached people, group organization. We're going into closed countries. So we lead with humanitarian work, and we do a ton of humanitarian work. In 2017, we said, we're going from COVID to overt. And so we just began to be more bold. I was in a state meeting with one of the governors, and he asked our delegation, he was with his delegation, what the purpose of our meeting was. And I just felt the Holy Spirit. It just felt like he moved in the room. He said, now. And I said, well, we come in the name of a man who said, when we give cups of cold water to people who are thirsty and food to people who are hungry, it's as if we'd done it unto him. And then he sat back in his chair and he said, you know, I did my PhD work in the US and my friends invited me to the Baptist Student Union. And I went there because the girls were cute. And then I got interested in the message and I started going to Sunday school. And he leaned forward, he said, I'm a Christian.

A (49:37)

Wow.

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What do you want? And I said, we want to start churches all over Cambodia. He said, you got everything you need. You just let me.

A (49:43)

Wow, love that.

B (49:44)

So we've been going, we've seen utter revival. We were just there, baptized a ton of people. It's just awesome. There's village chiefs coming to Christ. It's been an amazing thing. One of our communities that I believe that you were in and to come, over half of the population are Christians that attend our church, our Christian school, on our kids soccer club. They're part of our farm. And God has just been unbelievably gracious.

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One of the different things about for people, for care and learning is the micro enterprise that you guys emphasize and creating sustainable solutions for these people. So it's not just constantly raising money.

B (50:22)

We have, like a farm. It's like the Garden of Eden. So one of the things Pol Pot did, he tried to turn all of Cambodia into a rice farm field. You know, again, equal sharing of the misery. So it did terrible things to the soil. It ruined the soil. Farming, erosion, the trees were cut down, all of this stuff. So what we've seen is we've been able to reintroduce good agricultural practices. It raises the standard of living around the farm because people learn how to farm more. But yeah, we have cattle, we have water buffalo. It's an amazing thing. We have the best American style cafe. And see him reap. It's just been awesome. And we were there two months ago and Rachel, we did a ribbon cutting on five churches and five schools. And on day one, they were all fully packed. And then the village chiefs are telling all of their people, go, put your kids in this school. It'll change our life.

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You know, when you go somewhere with true, genuine love and compassion, it does. It's like that salt, saltiness. And then I think that's how God has used you all. So to open the door and they want to know, why are you like this 100%? And then you're able to tell the gospel.

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You know what? It did it for me too. When Dr. Fred invited me, it changed my life. So we think when we serve people, we're helping people, and we are, but it's their transformation is big time inside of us.

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That's right.

B (51:48)

When people are depressed, the best thing they can do is serve other people.

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What so impresses me is just the power of yes that you've said in your life. But I go way back, Joni, to where you could have sat in that heart hurt in Chicago. And if you would have sat in that hurt like so many people do, they get hurt by a church or hurt by ministry or hurt by people. And thank God that you didn't let that affect you. And then you kept saying yes. Sometimes we're afraid to say that yes, but there's so much more on the other side of yes. And the Bible even talks about despise not small beginnings. God isn't going to just take you from A to Z. It's just a process. And what he can trust you. But you start with the yes and a surrender, accept prayer. Something like, okay, God, you know, I'll go where you want me to go. I'll do what you want me to do. I'll be where you want me to be. That was kind of my prayer when I was 20 years old when I wrote a letter to the Lord and I didn't even realize how powerful those words were because, Emma, that's what he's looking for. Yes. He wants us to be saved. He sent his son to die for our sins. That is what prepares us for eternity? Absolutely. But what are we going to do on this earth, in this body? Are we going to fulfill our God given purpose? Because we all have one. Yes. And I keep coming back to this statement. Only one life will soon be passed. Only what's done for Christ will last. And we put so much energy into all of the things in society, but it's only what we do for Jesus that will last. You are doing all kinds of things. What about Gen X? What do you see? There are Gen. Is it Gen?

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Well, I think gender. Okay, I'm biased. I think Gen X is the most awesome.

C (53:22)

Right?

B (53:24)

We had no helmets, no seat belts. I was standing up on my dad's bench seat with his flatbed truck looking through a rust hole on the ground. Right. We survived.

A (53:32)

Yes.

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But these guys are hungry for spiritual things. They're hungry for truth because they've been.

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Exposed to everything bad.

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So they have a lot, they have a ton of information. They're overstimulated, they see everything. And also Gen Z is very much in self improvement. You see a lot of this, but they don't know how to talk to each other. They don't know how to ask for a date. They text each other.

A (53:56)

Yes, they break.

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And I'm telling, I tell people, my people, I look at all my Gen Z kids, I'm like, hey, you guys ask each other out. She's got to be good looking, he's got to be good looking, love Jesus. And you like to have a good conversation, you know, get married and have lots of babies, right? But Gen Z, there's revival in Gen Z.

A (54:16)

That's great.

B (54:17)

Look at Chad and Tanya Pruitt at the Unite Us movement at all the college campuses. Tens of thousands of kids coming out. That's happening at college campuses all over my Jesus revolution, kids are sitting on the front row notebooks taking notes, highlighting. They're in the altars worshiping. We should lean into that. We've made a huge mistake in dumbing down the scriptures. Gen Z wants to be challenged. Here's another. When you speak the truth to Gen Z, they're not going to like it, but they love the fact that you're telling them the truth. And if you stay with them, they'll stay with you. And they're being saved.

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That's good, that's good. It was a great message. I want you to stay with us. We're going to be right back right after this. Some books deserve to be held, cherished, remembered. This book is more than that. It's a Place to meet God. Every verse invites you to slow down, to listen, along with a journal that offers a quiet space for your prayers, your questions, your journey, for moments of stillness, for words that matter. Order your Bible and journal bundle now. Well, I hope that those of you that don't have a Bible, that you will get that Bible and that journal and begin to study the word of God, the Bible. That is an important component in all of this, isn't it? It sure is. And, you know, listening to your journey, nothing, nothing is wasted. God uses everything. What would you say to young people? I'm talking young people who are watching, who has a calling on their life, but feel stuck and just don't know how to follow. Because God is the greatest leader on earth. I mean, today, you know, spiritually, he is the best. Yes. But sometimes they just get stuck.

B (56:07)

Yeah. You know, I think we have more information now than ever. We're more qualified and more knowledgeable than ever. And so go. And a lot of times we're waiting for everything to be perfect. No, start where you are. Use what you have and do what you can. And then when you face difficulties and problems, keep going. Some of the greatest victories aren't actually a victory. It's just you surviving something and continue to be going forward. So initiative, here's a good word. Stick to itiveness, a resiliency. Resiliency is really important for the people of God that you continue to move forward. So, yeah, go, and you can do it.

A (56:42)

The journey of a thousand miles begins with a few steps, but you just have to keep putting one foot in front of the other.

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And we overestimate what we can do in the short term, we underestimate what we can do in the long term. So the compounding interest of just keeping going after the Lord, that regular devotion time with your family, you think, what is this really doing out over the course of a lifetime of change, our lives.

A (57:03)

That's good. Will you take just a moment, Travis? Maybe you're watching today and you just stop for whatever reason and you're listening. Stay right there. Because it's no accident that you're watching. And the most important decision you can make today is to invite Jesus into your heart. Some of you, there's so much stuff going on in your life right now, it's a mess. You don't know what you're going to do. I have the answer for you, Pastor Travis. Will you just lead us in a prayer? We'll repeat after you and just take a moment. Encourage those that are watching right now, 100%.

B (57:35)

Why don't you just go ahead and bow your heads with me right now? Father, I first of all, just ask that you would touch each person that's watching, whether this is on the broadcast or later on YouTube on the app. Lord, I pray that the Holy Spirit of God, the same Holy Spirit that resurrected Jesus from the dead, would quicken their hearts. I pray that you do that. Father, you say that no one can come to you unless you first draw. Lord, you're in that business. You said it's your will that none should perish. There's no one that's out of your reach. Father, I pray for my friends right now that are becoming my brothers and sisters. As they confess you as Lord. Father. Their sins cancelled. As they confess their sins to you and confess you as Lord. Like a spiritual bankruptcy. Their whole past wiped out. They're clean and they're free, Father, Help them to follow you every day of their life and that you would radically transform them. And we will give you the thanks for it. In the mighty name of Jesus. Amen.

A (58:31)

Amen. And just a little simple prayer like this, if you all just repeat after me. Jesus, I believe you died on the cross for me.

B (58:38)

I believe you died on the cross for me.

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Forgive me today. Wash away my sins. Wash away my sins and fill me with your spirit. Fill me with your spirit. I want to surrender my life to you.

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I want to surrender my life to you.

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In Jesus name.

B (58:50)

In Jesus name.

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Amen. Well, it's really so simple. I mean, I share the story about my grandfather. So many times somebody said, we love hearing that story about your grandfather when he's 19 years old and he didn't really know how to pray or what to pray. And his life was a mess. And his mom and dad were both gone. His mom had died giving birth to him. His dad committed suicide. And he had been passed around family and was just lost and didn't go to church. Know anything about church or God or anything? He just said, God, if you're there. He just said, God, if youf're there, I need you at 19. And God met Him right where he was. And that's what he wants to do for you. Some of you have even sat there and said, joni, you don't know. You don't know the mess that I'm in. Listen, I don't care what mess you're in, because you don't clean your mess up, okay? You come to God just as you are, and he'll clean the mess up, okay? And he'll turn your mess into a message. That's what he wants to do for you today. That's what he's done for all of us at the table. We all have messy stuff. I mean, every one of us sitting here, we have stuff we could tell you. We're not perfect. Nobody was perfect, Only one. And that was Jesus. He came and he lived a perfect life, died on the cross for our sin. He loves you so much. Well, we're out of time. But I want you to remember, when we say yes to God, his kingdom actually moves through us. And there are things that God has for you to do that you haven't done yet. But when you say yes to him, the spirit of God's going to come on the inside of you, and you're going to begin to have ideas and thoughts, and God's going to use you in this time, in this season. It's no accident that you were born in this time and this season. So let's be the answer to Jesus prayer in Matthew 6, you, kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Let revival start in us. If you're watching today and you need prayer, that's why the prayer number's on the screen. We have amazing prayer partners that are standing by ready to pray with you. It's our honor to do so. We love you. If you prayed that prayer, let us know that you prayed that prayer. I'm going to send you the Book of John. It's our free gift to you. It's a great place to start in the word of God. And we're so excited about what God has for you. If you need healing in your body, or maybe you're sick or maybe you're. You're just depressed. That's why that number is on the screen. We want to pray for you because the Bible talks about that when you come together in agreement that it's a powerful combination, and praying to a God that loves you so much can change everything. Well, I do want to thank Travis for joining us. To find out more about his ministry, visit pastortravisjohnson.com and as always, make sure to follow us on all social media. Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full episodes and exclusive content. Let us know how Table Talk is touching your life. We love hearing from all of you. Of course, you can also listen to the Joni Table Talk podcast, available now on all the major platforms. But thank you so much, ladies. Thank you, Travis, for being here today. And hey, I'm excited about what God has for you in the days ahead. I really am. Let us know what God's doing and we will see you next time. God bless you. Bye bye.

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