Podcast Summary: Joni Table Talk – September 28, 2025

Podcast: Real America’s Voice | Host: Joni Lamb, iHeartPodcasts
Guests: Jackson Longmire (Sheridan Church), Bishop Kevin Wallace (Redemption to the Nations Church)
Original Air Date: September 28, 2025

Episode Overview

This episode of Joni Table Talk centers around the pursuit of true happiness, joy, and spiritual fulfillment through surrendering to God rather than chasing after material wealth, pleasure, or temporary success. Featuring in-depth testimonies from Pastor Jackson Longmire and Bishop Kevin Wallace, the episode explores personal journeys from hardship and brokenness to finding profound purpose and revival. The hosts and guests discuss the difference between joy and happiness, the role of forgiveness, the importance of community, and how individual surrender impacts both personal destiny and the broader church.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Search for True Joy vs. Temporary Happiness

Begins ~[03:29]

• Host Panel: Joni Lamb, April Simons, Dorothy, Rachel, Cindy Murdoch
• The conversation opens by acknowledging the universal human chase after health, wealth, and pleasure, often mistaking them for foundations of happiness.
• Dorothy shares:

  “I am a living testament to His greatness and fullness of just being full of joy…I’ve had all the wealth…I will not replace it for anything in this world.” (04:16)

• April notes the distinction between fleeting happiness and sustaining joy:

  “Happiness is just an emotion and a moment…Joy, that’s sustainable. And joy is with you through everything. That’s your strength.” (05:05)

2. Jackson Longmire’s Testimony: From Chasing the Wind to Ministry

Guest Segment begins ~[06:25]

Early Life & Defining Moments

• Jackson Longmire describes his youth focused on “basketball and girls,” ultimately becoming a father at 17.
• He shares the pressure from friends to advise abortion but finds hope after hearing a local preacher, Billy Joe Doherty, which sparks his spiritual turnaround.

  “All of a sudden, I came to the realization my life wasn’t over, but it had just begun…started serving the Lord.” (08:19)

Navigating Failure, Divorce, and Redemption

• Married early against parental advice; the marriage did not last.
• Jackson recalls:

  “In Christian circles…it’s like, well, well, then you have a big ex. Like, I don’t know how you can be in ministry after this.” (11:50)

• He later sees his story as a bridge to relate to others in the congregation with blended families or imperfect histories.

His Call Into Ministry

• Experienced an “open vision” of himself preaching, confirmed by a prophetic word from an unknown altar worker.

  “He retells me my vision detail by detail…I knew that was God and it was an undeniable thing for me because it happened that morning.” (13:21-15:17)

• Changed college major from business to theology, yielding to God's direction over his original plans.

3. The Lessons of Surrender

Discussion resumes ~[18:39]

• Joni asks for practical advice: how to keep “pastor’s kids” loving church life. Jackson and his wife focus on balance—allowing children choices in church events to avoid resentment.

• Jackson’s key life lesson:

  “Oftentimes rejection in life is just God’s direction differently…with God, failure is never a final thing.” (20:02)

• Longmire warns against the “just one more” mentality—chasing kids, houses, bigger church attendance—as a treadmill that never produces lasting satisfaction (21:03).

4. The Ultimate Guide to Happiness—Forgiveness and Joy

Gospel Message ~[23:01]

• Jackson shares the gospel directly:

  “We’re all chasing to fill a hole in our heart…The only way you can have real joy, real peace…is through a relationship with Christ. And Jesus is the Prince of peace.” (23:01)

• Leads a prayer of salvation for listeners (25:06).

• Discusses forgiveness as a central principle for sustainable happiness:

  “When you forgive somebody who has wronged you…you are acting like God, because that’s what God does. Unforgiveness is a guaranteed way to be miserable and bitter.” (27:23)

5. Community, Hearing God’s Voice, and Spiritual Growth

• Joni and Jackson stress personal relationship with God and participation in church community:

  “Christians are like charcoals. You put charcoals together, you ignite one, they ignite the others. If you separate the coals, they cool off.” (29:10)

• Encouragement for new believers: develop the ability to hear God, find a church, and invest in a supportive spiritual community.

[Transition: New Segment with Bishop Kevin Wallace at 35:00]

6. Revival, Family, and the Power of Surrender

Bishop Kevin Wallace’s Story begins ~[38:34]

Early Life & Call to Ministry

• Raised in church, felt a strong call at age 15 during a youth festival:

  “The power of God sat on the place, and I just wept in the altar and surrendered everything to God.” (41:12)

• Key insight:

  “The most important day of your life is the day you get born again. The second most important…is the day you figure out why. When you discover your purpose, it makes you really dangerous…” (41:52)

• Marriage story with wife Devin features “surrender”—letting go lets God orchestrate their relationship, confirmed prophetically at a family dinner (45:23-46:04).

Trauma, Miracles, and Growth in Ministry

• Early years of pastoring marked by intense trial, including wife and son hospitalized for spinal meningitis, son with kidney stones.

• Miracle healing witnessed by an atheist doctor, sparking first “wave of revival” in his ministry:

  “In this picture we took several weeks ago, there are seven kidney stones…in this picture I just took…we can’t find where a kidney stone ever exists.” (48:37)

• Perseverance in hidden seasons:

  “If you don’t faint, you will reap in due season.” (49:51)

Adoption, Family Miracles, and Broader Ministry

• Shares miraculous adoption stories: God led his wife to a 14-year-old pregnant girl; they adopted her child, Genesis Amaya Wallace, followed by adopting another baby, Isaac Asher (the biological uncle of Genesis).

• Connection between family revival and spiritual revival:

  “When America values what heaven values, when our courts get in harmony with what heaven’s courts are in harmony with…God releases a spirit of revival on a place.” (58:59)

Revival in the Broader Church

• Notes a renewed interest in the person of Jesus:

  “There is this resurgence…this man with feet like brass and eyes like fire is becoming the center of attention again. And it’s changing the church and I think it’s time to change the nation.” (59:35)

• Leads a prayer of salvation for listeners, and Joni reassures anyone who has experienced abortion of God’s unconditional love and forgiveness (60:25-61:17).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• April Simons [05:05]:
  “Happiness is just an emotion and a moment…Joy is with you through everything.”
• Jackson Longmire [20:02]:
  “Rejection in life is just God’s direction differently.”
• Joni Lamb [42:29]:
  “Your lack of surrender will have a profound impact on those who are destined to be connected to your purpose.”
• Kevin Wallace [48:37]:
  “We can’t find where a kidney stone ever exists.” (regarding his son’s miraculous healing)
• Kevin Wallace [59:35]:
  “This man with feet like brass and eyes like fire is becoming the center of attention again. And it’s changing the church and I think it’s time to change the nation.”

Segment Timestamps

• [03:29] Opening panel on happiness, joy, and fulfillment
• [06:25] Jackson Longmire’s testimony and book discussion
• [08:19] Jackson’s spiritual turning point
• [11:11] Navigating early marriage, divorce, and redemption
• [13:19] Call into ministry and confirmation through prophecy
• [18:39] Parenting as pastor, keeping joy in ministry families
• [20:02] Jackson’s life lessons on rejection, failure, and redirection
• [23:01] Jackson’s gospel message and prayer
• [27:23] The importance of forgiveness for joy and happiness
• [29:10] Community and spiritual growth
• [35:00] Revival and awakening panel with April and Dorothy
• [38:34] Bishop Kevin Wallace joins with testimony and ministry journey
• [41:12] Wallace’s call to ministry at 15
• [45:23] Family prophetic encounter leads to marriage
• [48:37] Miracle healing and growth in ministry
• [54:00] Adoption stories: the miracle of Genesis and Isaac
• [58:59] Revival and the intersection of family and church renewal
• [60:25] Closing prayer of salvation with Bishop Wallace

Key Takeaways

• Pursuit of happiness through worldly achievements is ultimately unfulfilling; only spiritual surrender leads to lasting joy.
• Forgiveness and letting go of unresolved bitterness are central to experiencing true happiness.
• The importance of community: spiritual growth and lasting faith are nurtured in church and relational support.
• Individual surrender impacts not only personal destiny but also the broader revival and awakening in families and the nation.
• Miracles and personal testimonies are powerful tools to encourage faith and demonstrate God’s ongoing work.

For listeners seeking deeper connection, the guests’ books and ministries are recommended resources, and the episode concludes with an invitation to prayer, support, and community within the broader Real America’s Voice audience.