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Just the News No Noise with John Solomon and Amanda Head, April 13th, 2026
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John Solomon
Good evening America and welcome to the Monday edition of Just the News. No Noise. I'm your host John Solomon, reporting to you as always from the nation's capital, Washington, D. Tonight we're going to expand on a bombshell story we dropped late last evening. New memos declassified by the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard at the request of just the news we fought six years to get this evidence. They show that the intelligence community inspector general had gathered derogatory evidence about the CIA analysts who prompted the 2019 Ukraine focused impeachment against Donald Trump. Remember, that was impeachment that accused Donald Trump of wrongly asking Ukraine to investigate the Biden's grift there. We now know the grift existed. Well, now we know the man who made that accusation, the chief accuser that touched off that entire episode in American history, had submitted false statements in his whistleblower complaint, had offered hearsay to support his allegations, and was flagged by the inspector general for the Intelligence Committee, the chief watchdog of the Intelligence Committee for potential bias, including the bias of working for Joe Biden, being a registered Democrat and disliking Donald Trump and the people around him. In fact, he so disliked Donald Trump, he insisted that his complaint not be shared with allies of President Trump in Congress, even though they were entitled to see it. All day today, people have been reacting, former impeachment managers saying we should have known this lawyer, saying this raises very serious concerns about the fairness of the impeachment and Senate trial that occurred six years ago. And the intelligence establishment, including the CIA director and DNI Gabbard, both reacting strongly, saying that the former intelligence community's inspector general, that chief watchdog who buried this derogatory information, that he let the American people down, that he weaponized the whistleblower system and that he abused his position, there are signs that maybe that is going to come under investigation over the course of the next few days. Now, we're going to get to a lot of this, including having the amazing Alan Dershowitz in just a second. But first, as I do always at this point in the show, I want to turn to my amazing co host, Amanda Head. Amanda, you got to talk to the president about this very issue.
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Amanda Head
Indeed. Indeed, I made sure that that was one of the main questions that I asked him. But I want to touch on some other news before we get to that, because just before the show tonight, we got word that Congressman Eric Swalwell has resigned from Congress amid allegations of sexual misconduct. Ms. Swalwell was a front runner in the California governor's race before the allegations broke. So we're going to have much more for you on this as the story develops. But yes, I got a chance to to ask the president about a number of things today, one of which actually first on my agenda was to ask him about your story, the about the Ukraine whistleblower and specifically if he felt vindicated by it. Take a listen to his answer. You feel vindicated by.
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Donald Trump
Yeah, I do. There are a bunch of crooked people you're talking about with respect to all of the things that they put against me. Yeah. Well, it's come out that in so many different ways. Thank you very much for that question. I appreciate it. But in so many different ways, the election was rigged. The 2020 election was rigged. We found that out. What you just said is just a piece of that. It's a big piece, but minor, relatively speaking, compared to what they did.
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Amanda Head
And then, of course, next thing on my mind was what should happen to the people who are involved in light of John's bombshell reporting.
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Donald Trump
Well, it's very serious charge against them. And the Democrats, they cheat. They can't get elected with their policy, so their policy is no good. They want to have, I mean, open borders. They want to have men playing in women's sport.
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Amanda Head
So, John, that reminds me of a story that I'm actually putting out later this week because I was speaking to Ohio Secretary of State Frank LaRose about a recent election integrity issue in their state yet again, another Democrat masking as a Republican running for, I think it was Ohio's 13th district. And I think to myself, you know, when President Trump is talking about the trans issue and the immigration issue and things like that, things that Democrats are on the wrong side of history, on the wrong side of popularity on this, in the age of Trump, this is what they have to resort to. They have to turn their Democrats into Republicans just to slide them in.
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John Solomon
Our whole justice system, whether it's an impeachment or a federal trial or a local trial, rests on the idea that the government will do the right thing. And I think in the last decade, we've seen too many instances of the government doing the wrong thing, abusing, lying, cheating. And I think when the president used the word cheating, that's the right word. It's what a lot of people use today in reacting to this story. When I was writing this over the last couple of days, I could not stop thinking about our first guest. Over the years, I've watched him go to the rescue of people who were victims of government abuse, of wrongdoing. I remember how hard he fought to protect a hotel chambermaid who had been falsely accused of making up a sexual assault claim against a very powerful French man. Alan Dershowitz went to her defense because he believed in, he believed in the system. He, he ultimately got that woman justice. And he joins us right now. Alan, great to have you on the show your book. Get Trump takes on a lot of new meaning with this revelation.
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Alan Dershowitz
Yeah, well, thank God for you. I mean, my God, what you have done for America in terms of uncovering injustices. I wish I had you around. Over my 60 years, when I litigated many cases, winning some, losing some, winning a lot of them, where we could prove that the government withheld exculpatory information or information critical of witnesses. The supreme court back almost 100 years ago, ruled that the government has a constitutional obligation to provide under our adversary system any evidence that could prove the innocence or dispute the guilt of anybody accused. And when you get to an impeachment, my God, can you imagine what would have happened if the President had been impeached? And then we would come up with this evidence and, and we would have to go where? To the Supreme Court, to Congress, to God. Where do you go if you lose a case based on unconstitutional grounds? I mean, if it's a regular case where a person goes to jail, you have a remedy. Sometimes it's too late, sometimes they're gone. Sometimes, in some instances, they've been executed based on this. But if you're the President, United States, you've been impeached, you have nowhere else to go. So thankfully, thankfully, thankfully, you have come up with this evidence. And you're just a constant protector of the Constitution. You're an important guardian rail against government abuse. And it's so important to have you and your colleagues constantly digging around and holding the government to account. You are more important, especially that newspapers like the New York Times and media like the CNN are not doing it particularly. They're not doing it against their favorite people. You do it in a nonpartisan way without regard to whose ox is being gored. You just want the truth to come out. And again, thank you, thank you on behalf of truth and justice for doing what you do every single day, Sir.
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John Solomon
Thank you. That was very humbling. And coming from you, with all the great work you've done, it means very much to me. I want to ask a question. In a case like this, in a criminal court, you would go to the trial judge and say, hey, wrongly impeached, wrongly indicted, wrongly convicted. If that was the case, you should reverse it. The Chief justice of the United States was ultimately the trial judge in the Senate trial and the impeachment proceedings. Is there any avenue for a president to go back and say, expunge the impeachment because it was based on an unfair process?
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Alan Dershowitz
Well, you know, you've come up with an interesting novel approach. It's never been done. I don't see any reason why it. It couldn't be done. Impeachment is a quasi judicial procedure, whether you have to go back to Congress and ask them to expunge it or go to the courts. But I have to tell you one thing. History will expunge it already based on your work. Because what you've done is you've created so much doubt about the credibility of the main accuser that it's hard for anybody to sit back now and say that was a just. A just impeachment. But I don't know that there's going to be any remedy. Maybe we should try to create one. But having you there to constantly keep the government on its toes deters future government officials from doing this. Because these government officials will probably have to pay a political price, if not a legal price, for violating the Constitution, because that's what they've done. They violated the Constitution.
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Amanda Head
Alan, my dad always says it should hurt to be this stupid. It should also hurt to be this corruption when it comes to the people who are involved. You know, I know Brady violation is not typically a crime, but. And you would be the person to answer this? I believe in about a dozen states, if it is done knowingly and intentionally and with malice or in bad faith, it can actually be a felony. Do we need to find some type of workaround to make this hurt so that this doesn't happen again?
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Alan Dershowitz
Yeah. Number one, you can also always bring a civil lawsuit. This is a direct violation of the Constitution. The Sixth Amendment gives everybody a right to confront witnesses. The right to confront witnesses, the Supreme Court has held, includes the right to have the government provide you with the information they have necessary to confront those witnesses. Look, one of the first cases I ever studied in law school, which almost made me into a criminal lawyer, is when a prosecutor is held up a bloody pair of underwear in front of a jury and said, this is the underwear that was bloody because this man, a black man, white defendant, this man raped and murdered this woman. At the time he said that the policeman, the DA knew that there was no blood on that pair of underpants. It was paint. And that man almost went to execution. He was sentenced to death. And ultimately the conviction was reversed. The prosecutor was rebuked, but never punished. And that's why it's so important to punish and hold responsible people. Now, that was an extreme case. But extreme cases, if they're not punished, lead to less extreme cases like the one you exposed. So, you know, you may not understand how important a role you're performing in protecting the Sixth Amendment to the Constitution. Please keep doing it. We need you. Because the media isn't doing it. The media loves to just dump on people who are thought to be guilty, whether on a partisan basis or just because they favor convictions in most cases. But it's so important to have an objective and neutral station like yours, network like yours, program like yours, and personally, like the two of you, telling prosecutors and government officials every single day, we're onto you. We will catch you. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but we're not going to rest until we disclose all the evidence. The public has the right to that, and you're instrumental in giving us that right.
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John Solomon
Thank you, sir. Tulsi Gabbard released a lengthy statement a little while ago saying that the former inspector general of the Intelligence Committee withheld this evidence and did so knowing that the man he was submitting to Congress and forwarding to Congress as a legitimate complainant had bias, had lied to the investigation, was tied to Joe Biden, and only had hearsay evidence. She used the term he weaponized the whistleblower system. Could someone like that face penalty for obstructing a congressional proceeding by not telling them or not disclosing the truth to Congress?
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Alan Dershowitz
Well, first of all, you can commit crimes by omission as well as by commission. I'd have to actually know all the evidence, read all the records before I would ever accuse anybody of a crime. But it's certainly possible that failure to disclose could constitute obstruction of justice. So the investigation ought to go forward, let the facts be determined, let the other side have an opportunity to rebut the facts. I'm sure you would, in all fairness, give them that opportunity, and let's see what the evidence shows, and then we can determine whether there's any basis for going any further into the criminal justice system.
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John Solomon
Yeah, that's the way the justice system is supposed to work. Fairness.
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Amanda Head
Yeah, absolutely. Alan, we got to talk about your latest book. I know that you said, if President Trump. This push for President Trump or the whispers about him serving a third term, it's all on the shoulders of people like aoc. Talk to us about it.
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Alan Dershowitz
Well, you know, I presented a draft of this book for President Trump, and he got a good laugh out of it. And he said, well, you know, maybe it would be too cute. And, you know, I don't know whether he ever would. I can only tell you this, that the framers of the 22nd Amendment created a hole bigger than the hole that's being dug for the new ballroom in the White House. It is such an enormous. You know, they were, they were told, why don't you just say he can't serve or he can't be or he can't act? No, they said, we're not going to do any of that. We're going to say he can't be elected to a third term. Well, there are so many ways of becoming president without being elected. If you are vice president, you could be designated. If you're the Secretary of State or the speaker of the House and, And the presidents, the people before you, there are various ways which a person could become the president without being elected. Is it likely to happen? No, it's not likely to happen. But I have to tell you, if the Democrats were foolish enough to, or disloyal enough to America to nominate an AOC or even a Senator Murphy or Senator Warren, one of these people who would sell out America in a second, and if President Trump were convinced that the only way to defeat these people would be for him to somehow seek and obtain a third term, I wouldn't put it beyond him. I mean, he is determined to save America from some of the people who would destroy it if they actually got the nomination. And for people who say, oh, that's impossible. America would never nominate or elect a socialist. New York City, with the largest collection of Jews, any city in the country, elected an anti Semite, a socialist, a hater to the mayoralty. And so it's possible, and I think that is a, again, a safeguard against the Democrats electing an extreme radical. Do I think it's going to happen? I hope not. But, I mean, I wrote this book as if I were a law professor going through all the possibilities. And if you haven't gone to Harvard Law School and you want to get a little bit of a Harvard Law School education, if you read the book, it would be as if you're attending one of my seminars. You can see both sides are analyzed. Then I leave it to you to come to the conclusion as to whether it would be constitutional.
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John Solomon
I love it. I know I'm going to be reading that book for sure. Alan, it's always a great honor to have you on the show. You call balls and strikes the way our Founding Fathers intended it. Thanks for joining us today.
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Alan Dershowitz
Speaking of the Founding Fathers, though, I think you have to say, see the cartoon that's on the back of the book? It has the Founding Fathers, one of them to the other, saying, just for fun, let's make what is national a bit of wishy washy. And that's what they did with 22nd amendment. It's wishy washy. So it's also a fun book. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.
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John Solomon
I can't wait. Yeah. It's a great honor as always, my friend. Thank you so much. All right, folks, we're going to take a quick commercial break. When we come back, in fact, one of the impeachment managers who was there trying to defend the president in the well of the Senate, Mark Meadows, he later became President Trump's chief of staff. He's going to join us with reaction to what we learned in the last 24 hours. We'll have that next right after these messages. Hey, America. The FBI has been warning about a type of real estate fraud on the rise called home title theft. And your equity is the target. Here's how it works. Criminals forward your signature on a single document, use a fake notary stamp and file it with the county. And just like that, boom, they're on record as owning your home using your ownership. They then take out loans against your equity or even sell your property. And you're not going to know about it until you get a foreclosure or collection notice in the mail. And that's not going to be a good moment. That's why I partnered with Home Title Lock so you can protect your equity. And find out today if you're already a victim, use my promo code jtn@hometitlelock.com you'll get a free title history report and a free child Their million dollar triple lock protection. That's a great deal. A million bucks to protect your home. That's 24,7 monitoring of your title records, urgent alerts to any changes. And if fraud occurs, their US Based restoration team will spend up to a million bucks to fix it. Find out why I trust Home Title Lock. Protect yourself like I did. Don't be a victim. Protect your equity today. Go to hometitleock.com and use that promo code jtn. That's hometelock.com promo code jtn.
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Amanda Head
Welcome back everybody. We have more for you on John's bombshell story about newly uncovered memos that expose the Ukraine impeachment whistleblower's potential biases against President Trump's. So joining us now is someone who has a personal stake in this story. He served as an impeachment manager defending President Trump before becoming his Chief of Staff Mark Meadows. Mark, great to see you.
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Mark Meadows
Great to be with you. This is a bombshell report. Sadly, it took, what, almost six years for this to get out. But bravo to you, John, and to the entire just the news team for being tenacious to make sure that the American people finally get a glimpse of what we suspected long ago.
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Amanda Head
Absolutely. Well, and to that end, and I agree, I mean, John, you've tried for six years to get this information and it is a credit to you that this is out there. But, Mark, you had very serious conversations and questions early on about the credibility of, and I guess we can't really call him a whistleblower anymore. Eric Sharimella, you had very serious questions about it. Did you ever see these ICIG reports, anything regarding the hearsay, his bias, the Biden, Ukraine ties? You suspected all of it, right?
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Mark Meadows
We did. And every time the questioning came up. And just to be clear, I want to make sure I give full credit to those that were in the room because as you if I can bring your viewers back in with us, we were down in a skiff in the Capitol complex, which was a secure location. And so it was me and Jim Jordan, Lee, Zelda and a few others that were doing the questioning along with the staff. But every time that even we would dip our toe in the water to start to talk about the credibility of this alleged whistleblower or what they said or want to cross examine even some of the facts, we got the Heisman from Chairman Shift and others. And yet they would leak out, the Democrats would leak out other information from this secure location. So they were feeding to the legacy media what they wanted to hear at all, all the time. They were protecting what they knew was at best a very sketchy source. And what we're finding out now from this reporting is no firsthand knowledge at all. It was literally hearsay that was bringing an indictment from a impeachment standpoint against Donald Trump.
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John Solomon
I remember some quiet days in the spring and summer of 2017 when I first got to meet you, Mark, and there were just a few people that could look at the Russia collusion scandal at that point, which was, you know, on fire in the meeting. Everyone was certain it was true. And you looked at and said, that doesn't add up. It doesn't make sense to me. You unravel that with people like Jim Jordan and Devin Nunes and others. You had the same instinct with Ukraine. And then it just keeps happening. Every two years, there seems to have been a new effort to hang a fake scandal on Donald Trump. How do we break this cycle of false scandal? Because it cost people millions of dollars. It cost them their reputations. It costs the American people trust in their government.
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Mark Meadows
Well, it does. And really, you mentioned Director Tulsi Gabbard putting out a statement in your segment with Alan Dershowitz. But really, it can't stop with just a statement. What they've got to do is restore that credibility. And yet the President has got to live this in real time. You know, not only impeached once, but impeached twice, indicted in multiple different cases. And yet he knows the truth. We knew the truth. And yet we were getting pushback. John, you know what? You were covering this. We were getting pushback and, oh, we were, we were believing that there was some kind of conspiracy to get the President. Well, guess what? There really was.
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John Solomon
Yeah,
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Amanda Head
Mark, you know, we're. We're having these conversations, and I know that for many of us, we would like to think that this is a fly, a fly in the ointment. But the reality is, is that this is Washington, and this type of corruption unfortunately happens a lot. For these politicos who were a part of this, I don't think any civil action is going to deter them from doing this again in the future, especially if the stakes are as high as they were before when they were consumed with tds. What, what makes them stop? What prevents them from doing this again?
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Mark Meadows
Well, it's twofold. One is, is they need, regardless of party. And let me just tell you that it was the Democrats who worked very closely with this alleged whistleblower, and yet they knew the truth. And they should have, you know, said, hey, hold on, wait just a second. We love the way that this is filling our narrative, but we can't rely on this. And I can tell you without naming names, in that same deposition, there was someone who was giving testimony that was really beneficial to the President's cause, and some on our team were getting all excited, and I said, hold on, just say this doesn't add up. This is going to come back and we're going to find out that this witness is not telling the truth, so we shouldn't rely on it. And indeed, we found that out. But had we gone that way, the difference is Chairman Schiff and others, they were able to hide behind this. You know, we've got to keep it all in the secure location, and it can't be out there. And it was basically like the wizard of Oz being behind the curtain. They wouldn't let you pull back the curtain to find out what was really going on.
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John Solomon
Mark, Alan raised an interesting concept, which is maybe, given what we now know about Russia, Russia, Russia and Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, that the impeachment record be expunged in some official way, either by going to the Chief justice or having the Congress do it post facto. What do you think about doing that for history's sake? I mean, Donald Trump's already won. The American people spoke and they put him back in office. But is there some value to history in repudiating the impeachment that occurred in 2019?
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Mark Meadows
Well, of course there is. And should we do it? Yes, without a doubt. Because you and I both know you were covering this, along with just a few other reporters that, quite frankly, your reputation kept to be really thrown darts at on a regular basis because you dared to print the truth. But, yes, it should be. And get that. You were talking to Alan Dershowitz here. We had the Chief justice of the Supreme Court that didn't have actually this evidence laid before him. So it was not just the impeachment managers. It was basically not giving the judge the full, full case. So should it be reversed? Yes, without a doubt. Will it make a big difference? I'm afraid without accountability that this will happen again and again, and should the Republicans lose the majority in November, you're going to see impeachment 3.0 and 4.0, and we just need to all have our antennas up at that particular time.
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John Solomon
That's a scary thought.
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Amanda Head
Well, and Mark, another scary thought is that our country was hanging by a thread with this. Of course, President Trump had been removed from office in the Senate. I mean, where would that have put our country? There would effectively have been no recourse. Democrats in this country would not have allowed for there to be any type of reversal. What would that have done to this country?
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Mark Meadows
Well, they would have kept the narrative and the weaponization would have continued on. But it's even worse than that, Amanda, when we look at this. Had President Trump not been reelected, which everybody said he wouldn't be reelected, had he not been sworn into office In January of 2025, we wouldn't have seen this now. This would have been buried. It was buried for four years under the previous administration, and yet it was there for everybody to see. I can tell you it wasn't just Director Tulsi Gabbard and a few of her closely held confidants that had this. A number of people had to have had knowledge of this. And there should have been a whistleblower on the whistleblower.
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Amanda Head
Absolutely.
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John Solomon
That's it.
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Amanda Head
Former chief of Staff to President Trump and one of the men who defended President Trump, Mark Meadows. Thanks for being with us tonight.
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Mark Meadows
Great to be with you both. Take care. God bless.
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Amanda Head
Absolutely. All right, everybody, after the break, we're going to get to more allegations of Democrat corruption. There's new information in the Act Blue investigation, so we're going to talk to Chairman Brian Stile about that after the break.
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Welcome back, America. A couple of years ago, I got a tip from some law enforcement officials about some misconduct potentially inside ActBlue, the big online fundraising effort for Democrats. I got to watch our next guest in action. He went right to work investigating this. He had his own information. He's been developing it. And now there are some new developments in that Act Blue investigation, including an insinuation from Act Blues Law firm that maybe Act Blue lied to Congress. Joining us right now, the chairman of the House Administration Committee, which oversees election integrity. He's also a congressman from one of my former home states, Wisconsin. He is Chairman Brian Stile. Sir, good to have you back on the show, John.
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Brian Stile
Thanks for having me on.
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Mark Meadows
All right.
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John Solomon
It's always an interesting moment when a law firm is caught perhaps questioning the integrity and honesty of the political group it was representing. What do you make of these reports of the dispute between the law firm and Act Blue's former leadership?
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Brian Stile
Well, it tells you two things. One, that we are barking up the right tree in our investigation that now started over two and a half years ago in 2023. I feel like you and I were about the only people interested in looking into these allegations that agblue had weak fraud standards, were at risk of foreign interference and foreign donations on their Website. As we continue to peel back the onion, we get more and more evidence as to what was really going on at ActBlue. We've proven that they've had weak standards. They weren't even requiring, for example, that CBB number that said three or four digit code on the back of your credit card that you need to type in pretty much anytime you buy something online. We now have additional evidence that's reported that Senior leadership at ActBlue was not truthful to me and their report back to Congress. That is incredibly concerning. And we're going to dig even deeper to make sure that we get the answers not only on what's going on, but the truth for the American people.
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Amanda Head
Absolutely. What's their current level of operation? Because we're kind of in an election cycle right now. Are they still taking donations?
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Brian Stile
ActBlue continues to be the leading fundraising platform for Democrats and liberal activists across the country. It's the reason that we need to make sure that we get this right. We should have a standard of no illegal contributions being made through online portals like ActBlue. The laws probably need to be adjusted in this regard. That's why we began this investigation. And then we're going to be holding entities like ActBlue accountable for their lack of transparency to Congress, potentially false and misleading statements that they made in regards to my 2023 investigation and in further investigations going forward. And we're going to bird dog this all the way to the end because the standard here should be that the American people should have confidence that foreign money is not coming into US elections.
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John Solomon
Yeah, it's so important. You did so much work. I mean, first you found the CBB thing, you got the depositions, you went through suspicious money activity reports, sars. And so you have the best view. The thing that shocked me most in looking at this letter or this communication between the lawyer, law firm and their client was that the law firm seemed to have the same concern you did, which was there may have been some serious foreign vulnerabilities. What do we know about what that law firm's concern was? Or do we not know it yet?
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Brian Stile
Well, we have the reports that were put forward in the New York Times investigation that's giving us more questions which we're going to have to go back to act Blue with because again, the American people deserve to know the answer as to exactly what is taking place in these online donation platforms such as Zack Blue. And further, we should all have confidence that foreign donations are not entering into US Politics. The report that came out that Says that includes the law firm memo, internal discussions that they were not being truthful with Congress is incredibly concerning in a period of time when the American public, I think, questions the volume of money that's flowing through ActBlue. And we need to know that there is nothing nefarious going on. And this investigation as a result is going to continue, I think with added momentum and added strength.
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Amanda Head
Mr. Chairman, you have always been absolutely savage for election integrity. But as the days go by, the fate of the Save America act seems to get grimmer and grimmer. What's your outlook on it?
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Brian Stile
You know, it passed the House with overwhelming support because it's such common sense legislation. I mean, it's simple legislation that says you need to be a U.S. citizen to vote in U.S. elections. You're going to prove that at the time you register and that you're going to be who you say you are. And you're going to prove that by showing photo identification when you go to vote. This is overwhelmingly popular with the American public. That's why it passed through the House with such ease. My hope is that the Senate truly brings this to a vote. There's no reason that the Senate can't get this done in pass. It continues to get pushed around by a 60 vote filibuster threshold in the Senate. I look at the Senate and say, men and women, let's get this done. This is common sense reforms I think the American people deserve to have in place before November.
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John Solomon
Yeah, that's exactly right. It's so popular. So very few things are 80, 85% popularity like this. Before we let you go, what other things are you looking for in the 26 election? I know you spend a lot of time getting election observers to grow up. There's been a lot of progress made by this Justice Department cleaning up voter rolls with consent decrees and lawsuits. What are the big issues that keep you awake at night when you want to make sure this is going to be the most well run and highest election integrity election we've had in a long time.
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Brian Stile
One, we need to implement election integrity standards across the country. It's why I've introduced the MEGA Act. Make Elections Great again. Comprehensive election integrity reform. But there's other stuff we can do as well. We can push at the state level as we've done for example in the state of Wisconsin where we ban Biden Bucks or where we ban Zuckerbucks from being implemented and we require photo identification. And then at the Committee on House Administration, we've run one of the most robust election Integrity programs the country has ever seen by sending out trained individuals to key voting locations across the country. Those men and women were absolutely essential at making sure that the last election was run with the most integrity we could possibly require until we get the comprehensive election integrity legislation passed and signed into law.
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Amanda Head
Yeah, huge, Mr. Chairman, something that is plaguing the American people. Not enough homes for people. It is driving the cost through the roof. And I know you are a large part of one of the components of the House, housing for the 21st century act, something that it sounds like it's going to vastly improve that situation for Americans.
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Brian Stile
This is all about cutting through red tape. The amount of bureaucratic red tape that's driving up costs for Americans is hard to wrap your head around. It's the bureaucracy of not only Washington, D.C. but state and local governments as well. The 21st Century Housing act that passed through the House with broad support really begins the process of cutting through the regulatory red tapes we can get back to to actually building homes that Americans can afford. Making sure that we get this legislation negotiated through with the Senate and signed into law by President Trump is essential. I think we have a huge opportunity to begin chipping away at the unnecessary costs that find their way into housing through regulations. Bureaucratic red tape. And the more we're removing that with a business forward mindset, the better it is the American consumer and young couples in particular that are trying to buy their first homes.
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John Solomon
Yeah. You're on the forefront of some of the most important issues at the kitchen table all across America, not just in Wisconsin. Mr. Chairman, great to have you on the show today. Thanks for that very important update.
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Brian Stile
Thank you.
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John Solomon
Yeah. What a great conversation as always. All right, folks, we're gonna take a quick commercial break. When we come back, we're gonna continue on that issue of Americans housing and President Trump's own plans for fixing it. We'll have that next. That's these messages.
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Welcome back everybody, to Just the News. No noise. Let's get to an important aspect of President Trump's domestic policy that really hasn't been getting enough coverage lately. His plan for rebuilding the American dream of home ownership. The White House outlined it more fully earlier today when they released their 2026 economic report. And so with us to talk more about this is Paolo Taramani. He's the founder and co CEO of the very innovative housing company Boxabl. And Dr. Morris A. Davis, former chief housing Economist for the White House Council of Economic Advisors. He's also current member on the boxabl board. A perfect fit. Welcome to you both.
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Paolo Taramani
Great to be here.
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Amanda Head
Paula, I want to start with you and I want to dovetail off of our conversation with Chairman Style because he's talking about solutions from the congressional side, from the legislative side, as far as housing and getting more products out there, more homes for Americans to buy. Boxabl is tackling it from the market side of things. Tell us about it.
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Paolo Taramani
Absolutely. Amanda. Yeah, I think the President's economic report was directionally absolutely fantastic. Hopefully our efforts in Washington had some positive effect. We're here to help. And from a manufacturing point of view, it has to be a post industrial situation to really lower the cost. We see that from the President's report. The additional cost of burdensome regulation which really affects commerce, interstate commerce for homes built in a factory increases product costs by 25 to 40% for the American consumer. And that's really quite outrageous. The way to additionally lower the cost of home construction is to make it post industrial, which is just a fancy way of saying put it in a factory. Get an advantage of, of everything from material supply chain quality, efficiency, a lack of mold and by the way, extremely, extremely sustainable.
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John Solomon
Yeah, all of those are important. The EPA chief was on my show a couple of weeks ago on the podcast and said he really thinks it's time to unleash the manufactured home capability. That building homes on the same line, sending them out would revolutionize the housing supply, specifically related to young people trying to get into the marketplace. How encouraging is to hear Elise Zeldin talk about that. And do you think that that is something that's in the works right now?
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Paolo Taramani
Well, I would, I would say Mr. Zeldin is, is, is really a great leader and also is I think a litigation attorney which is pretty good when it comes to being in Washington and boxable has proposed, has a, has a blueprint essentially for an executive order to fix housing and it has to be done under the commerce clause in the same way that be sold interoperably across states. And it's a simple three point plan and hopefully we'll be able to get some traction on it. There's been a lot of good progress in that area but it's been more about trimming the hedges rather than watering the root of the hedges to just really have very natural, organic and explosive growth. We've got a 10 million home shortfall and we're operating like it's 1946 instead of 2026.
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John Solomon
Yeah, that's true.
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Amanda Head
Absolutely true. Mo, this is your bread and butter. It is absolutely a perfect placement for you to be on the board of such an innovative company. But you with your ideas. I wanted to get your take on something else President Trump did when he talked about that plan for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to buy $200 billion worth of more mortgage bonds. Do you think that that is going to help fuel and ignite, I guess the, the economy for, for home buying?
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Dr. Morris A. Davis
Yes, it will. Basically we need two parts. We need short term demand relief which is just try to get mortgage rates, get interest rates lower. We need to restart the housing market. We need to get. We need old people, older people that want to downsize. They need to be incentivized to sell. We need young people that want to buy homes. They, they need affordable mortgage rates. So the first step of this is fix interest rates, fix mortgage rates, get all rates down. And the president's plan will help with that. This, that's like a today thing that we should be doing right now. The longer term issue, which is highlighted in the economic report of the president is that we need at least 10 million more housing units. And the reason we don't have those housing units in place is just a thicket of red tape and a thicket of bureaucrats that don't care to build. I'm really proud to be associated with boxabl because I view boxabl's technology and speed and efficiency and safety as a key part of curing the housing supply problem. If we need 10 million homes, how
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Father Frank Pavone
do we build those?
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Dr. Morris A. Davis
How do we build them quickly? We need a process to get homes built quickly, safely. Using 1940s technology doesn't do that. We need to use manufacturing facilities, and that's what boxabl does. So I think part one, let's reduce mortgage rates, let's reduce interest rates, let's get the housing market restarted. Let's do that today. Part two, let's build the homes that America needs. And boxabl, I think, can be a key part of that solution.
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John Solomon
Well, before we let you go, just real quickly, an idea that you and Paolo first brought on the show about a month ago is incredible. Included in today's announcement tying future federal funds to relief of the regulatory red tape that keeps manufacturing housing out of some places and makes everything more expensive to build a home. How important is that concept?
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Paolo Taramani
That's definitely for Mark.
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John Solomon
You want.
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Dr. Morris A. Davis
It's very, very important. Right now. Manufacturers cannot achieve scale as easily as housing. Manufacturers like Boxwell cannot achieve scale as quickly as, say, as car manufacturers. Because to make a house in Nevada, you'll need an inspector from Nevada to inspect the house at the plant. To sell that same house in New Mexico, the New Mexico inspector has to come to the plant. And Nevada and New Mexico may have different standards for what an acceptable off site built house, what properties it may have. So we need to standardize the codes. We need to make inspection easier. We basically, the processes that are set up at the state and local level are not set up for scale. So any kind of federal program that incentivizes standardization and deregulation will make it just that much faster and easier to provide.
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Amanda Head
Dr. Morris A. Davis and Paolo Tiramani So sorry, that's the end of this. But everybody, their houses are beautiful too on top of all of the other positives. So go check them out. We've got to take a quick break. We've got one more on the other side.
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Amanda Head
Welcome back everybody. The President's Religious Liberty Commission held their final hearing all about the past president and future of religious liberty here in America. And it was held at a good time, too, because right now, the Trump administration is in a bit of a back and forth with the head of the Catholic Church, Pope Leo xiv. So who better to join us to talk about both of these issues than one of the men who was at the final Religious Liberty Commission hearing? Joining us is the director of Priests for Life and the national co chair of Pro Life Voices for Trump, Father Frank Pavone. Father, great to see you.
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Father Frank Pavone
Good to be with you again.
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Amanda Head
All right, let's start with the hot topic of the day, the back and forth that the President is having with the Pope.
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Father Frank Pavone
Yes. You know, look, the both the Pope and also the United States bishops, they could help this situation a lot by Clare, making a very clear, precise distinction. And Catholic teaching holds this distinction. The Church teaches moral principles. We expect the clergy to do so. President Trump wants the clergy to do so. In fact, he has encouraged the clergy and taken measures where we can speak our mind more freely. So there's no dispute about that. The problem is this, that it is up to presidents and governors and senators and legislators to apply those principles. If they accept them, if they believe them, they're the ones that have to look at the practical circumstances. How do I apply this principle? So, for example, war. What does waging war mean? I mean, you can never directly attack the innocent. So if that's the moral principle, okay, that's black and white. There's no exceptions to that. But if you're talking about using force to defend the innocent, well, then that's allowed. Now, how exactly do we do it? Do we bomb? When do we bomb? What targets do we bomb? Are the circumstances, Right? That's not for religious leaders to decide. That's where those that we elected to make those decisions to decide. Now, the religious leaders could have an opinion about that. They could voice that opinion. But don't make your congregation feel like they have to agree with your opinion on that. They don't. So, you know, a little bit more clarity on that distinction. Same thing with immigration. What is the moral principle? Everybody's our brother and sister, no matter where they come from. Okay? Nations should be generous in welcoming them. Okay, but is there a Catholic position about how many people you should deport today or tomorrow or next year or how those deportations should happen or what the process is before you get an order of deportation? There is no Catholic teaching on that.
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John Solomon
There isn't.
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Father Frank Pavone
There's an overall principle, but Then we've got to give the lawmakers and the executives the leeway to make the judgments we elected them to make. What I'm saying is a lot of this dispute is totally unnecessary, but the church leaders, including the Pope and some of his recent statements, they're being careless in not making these distinctions. And all of a sudden people feel like, oh, maybe I can't support what the administration is doing. I'm a faithful Catholic and I'm a loyal Trump supporter, and I know that I can be both.
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John Solomon
Yeah, that's definitely true. When I was thinking about this, I was thinking, you know, Pope John Paul the Second, now a saint, lived through a war, too. He knows that there are moments, he certainly knew there were moments where war was righteous because it was a greater evil to defeat The Islamic regime in Iran has been repressive to its people and to the world for a long time. What, what would be a reboot to this right now? I mean, it seems to me like Pope Leo and President Trump could reboot this. They're both on better grounds. How does that go about happening or can it go about happening?
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Father Frank Pavone
Yeah, that is a good question. I think that what we have to start with doing is perhaps do less of this, I call it magisterium by journalism. You know, maybe a fewer off the cuff comments to press on the plane and more, you know, lay out a magisterial document that makes these distinctions very clearly. Another thing that could help praise all the great things that President Trump is doing, you know, a little bit more from, you know, starting with the American bishops and the Holy Father say, look what he's doing like today with the religious freedom, I mean, what he is doing to advance Catholic social principles is absolutely unprecedented. And a little bit of acknowledgment of that from our religious leaders would go a long way to, as you say, rebooting things.
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Amanda Head
Absolutely. Well, and speaking on those things, you know, President Trump, as you said, has done so much, but he's got, got another two and a half years in office. What do you want to see done in those next?
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Father Frank Pavone
More of the same. And there is going to be more of the same. For example, now. So this Religious Liberty Commission is putting together now the concrete recommendations that that will that result from now seven meetings that they had over the last 10 months. And I was at most of them. We're going to see things like a little bit more financial pressure on institutions that don't respect religious freedom, a little bit more education, like within employment agencies, within schools. Like the suggestion was made you know, what about in the teachers lounge, the faculty lounge of. We're even talking about grade schools, high schools, colleges, a notice posted there. Here are the religious liberty rights of students and teachers. That would go a long way. Just education. Right, right. And then if you don't, and then how about, you know, if you receive federal funding, you have to certify, yes, we understand the requirements of religious, religious freedom. We're going to abide by it and we're going to enforce it. And if you don't, you don't get the funds. Concrete things like this. The president could not possibly be any more committed to religious freedom than he already is. So the purpose of this commission is not to persuade him of anything. He started the commission because he says, I want more, I want to know more. What can I do? And I've been very impressed by the witnesses. You know, we've had experts, but we've also had everyday Americans who said, hey, I felt like I had to choose between following the law and following my faith. And that's not a choice any American should feel they have to make.
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John Solomon
Not what our founding fathers intended either.
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Father Frank Pavone
No.
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Amanda Head
Before we let you go, we've just got a few more seconds. Tell everybody where they can find more about your work.
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Father Frank Pavone
Pavona on all the social media. Fr. Frank Pavone. And our main website is prolifecentral.org you
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Amanda Head
always do such an amazing job. We love having you here in studio. What a treat.
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Donald Trump
I love it.
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Amanda Head
And I'm in the middle of a Catholic sandwich.
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John Solomon
You are indeed.
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Amanda Head
Does that make me extra absolved?
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John Solomon
Only from him.
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Amanda Head
All right, everybody, Director of Priests for Life and the national co chair of Pro Life Voices for Trump, Father Frank Pavone. Thank you for being with us tonight. All right, everybody, that's all the time we have for this evening. So we'll see you tomorrow.
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