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Just the News No Noise with John Solomon and Amanda Head, December 16th, 2025
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John Solomon
Good evening, America. Happy Tuesday and welcome to the latest edition of Just the News. No noise. I'm your host, John Solomon reporting to you as always from the nation's Washington, D.C. where today we had another bombshell story to break on Just the News, this time dealing with the FBI's raid on President Trump's home at Mar A Lago in Florida back in 2022. I'm sure you all remember it well. Just the News confirmed that the FBI in the summer of 2022 raised repeated objections, repeatedly objected raiding Donald Trump's Mar A Lago home, warning that agents did not believe the Biden Justice Department had enough evidence to establish probable cause. That is the standard, the legal requirement for search warrants. And there part of the reason is they didn't have proof that the former president had broken the law in handling classified documents. They didn't even know who had mishandled the documents. And they also noticed that President Trump might have had the right to declassify them and take them with him. The FBI's Washington Field Office wrote in the memos which were sent to Congress today, which we obtained a copy of, that there is very little has been developed related to who might be culpable for the mishandling of the documents. In other words, they didn't have any evidence. They also outlined their concerns with drafting a search warrant for the documents, writing in the memo, quote, wfo, that stands for Washington Field Office, has been drafting a search warrant affidavit related to these potential boxes, but has some concerns that the information is ready for the single source, not corroborated and may be dated. In other words, it didn't meet the standard required for a search warrant. The FBI also shows that a few weeks later in July of 2022. So the concerns began in June and the raid occurred in August. But in July, FBI agents raised more concerns, including about the legality of searching Trump's personal residence at Mar A Lago, specifically his personal office and his bedroom. Writing DOJ has inquired as to OPS or an OPS plan for a search warrant of Mar A Lago. I let them know we are not in agreement for probable cause on the search warrant. That's what one of the agents wrote. These are bombshell documents. Now they were turned over to Senate and House Judiciary Committees. And by the way, just one day before Jack Smith, the prosecutor, inherits that evidence as the special counsel charges, President Trump is about to testify in Capitol Hill. He's supposed to give a deposition tomorrow to the House Judiciary Committee. We also have some talking to a lot of people today in Congress and in the legal profession who say these documents could have legal consequences. One, giving President Trump the right to sue and argue that the Justice Department violated his Fourth Amendment protections against unlawful search and seizure or to the current Justice Department, the Trump run Justice Department. Remember, we had Harmeet Dhillon, the assistant attorney general for civil liberties here on the show a couple of weeks ago. She said they are looking at charging people with crimes for violating the civil liberties of Donald Trump or his followers. This could add a lot of evidence to the notion that there was an effort to disregard the president's civil liberties on this. We're going to have a lot more on this all throughout the show. But first, we got a lot of other headlines today, including a dramatic murder charge brought in Hollywood in the aftermath of of Rob Reiner stabbing. My my co host, amazing co host Amanda has all the details on that. Amanda, pretty busy day today. Indeed.
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Co-host Amanda or Secondary Host
And to follow up on you were saying next week, we have the assistant attorney general for the Civil Rights Division, Army Dylan, on the show again. So we're going to have to get her take on that. And also I've got boots on the ground tomorrow for that Jack Smith deposition. So we'll see what happens coming out of that. But yes, John, just before the show tonight, we got an update from officials in Providence, Rhode island, about the ongoing search for the Brown University shooter. And we also got more news on the status of the victims, two of which, of course, were killed. Seven remain in the hospital. One is in critical status there and five are in critical but stable status. And one is in stable status. Now, officials also revealed new footage of the shooter during the press conference. And that's what you're looking at there your screen. And Providence Police Chief Oscar Perez said he wanted the public to focus on the movement patterns of this suspected shooter, which would help identify the suspect. So Chief Perez also asked if the public has any camera systems, any Teslas that have what's it called, Sentry, Sentry cameras on their, on their Tesla parked by the road where the individual was walking to see if they can get more footage. So he explained why at a press conference just before our show tonight. Check it out.
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Congressman Ralph Norman
We're asking you to go back at.
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John Solomon
Least a week to do that. And the reason for that is because.
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Amanda
On Saturday night, the day off, we.
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Wes Hodges
Actually learned that this individual was in.
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John Solomon
That neighborhood around 10:30 in the morning.
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Wes Hodges
We also know in this profession that.
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John Solomon
Many criminals will case out an area.
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Amanda
Weeks and days prior.
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Wes Hodges
And so it's important for us to.
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John Solomon
Ensure that we can have you look.
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Amanda
At that and help us.
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John Solomon
And the reason for that, because our offices are agents are looking at terabytes of data and we're looking for a moment that is shorter than, shorter than somebody taking a breath.
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Wes Hodges
It's incredible hard work to do that. And so we're asking the public to.
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John Solomon
Assist us with that.
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Co-host Amanda or Secondary Host
So we're obviously going to be following all the updates on this and keeping you up to date. But John, it's going to take, you know, as we were talking about with the FBI director a few weeks ago, it's good old fashioned police work that tends to turn these things over. We saw it with the United Healthcare CEO. We saw it with Charlie Kirk. And I think the public just has to keep in mind that these things, sometimes they take a few days to really settle and to get all the information. And you know, they've got some good footage out there already and they're obviously requesting more than they were.
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John Solomon
A lot of evidence. They're probably not talking about phone data, purchase receipts, all the things that led to the arrest of the January 6th bomber. Probably going on here. Nick Reiner, the very troubled son of Rob Reiner and his wife charged with murdered today in California. Really gruesome case here. The more details come out, the more heart wrenching it is to hear. All right, we've got a great set of guests for you tonight. In fact, there's a theme to the first couple of guests. Both are members of Congress who are now running for governor of their state. Our first Congressman, Tom Tiffany from the great state of Wisconsin, who's got a great chance of being the next Republican nominee for governor in that state. Congressman, great to have you on the show today.
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Amanda
Amanda and John, always good to join you.
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John Solomon
We love having you on. Sir, let me start off by asking you about these bombshell documents that went to Judiciary today. It seems as though the president's civil liberties may have been violated. Is there, from what we've seen in these early documents and the real strong concerns the FBI had of what the Biden DOJ was going to do to President Trump. Is there a possibility of criminal charges or civil rights action by President Trump?
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Amanda
Well, the hits keep coming. Right. And I just think about Christopher Wray appearing before us in the Judiciary Committee over the four years of President Biden. And it's obvious that he did not share information that he should have and may have lied to us. But, you know, whether it's the Catholics in the Richmond Diocese, the FBI going after people at school board meetings, and now this, that they did not care what the law is. And hopefully Cash Patel is emptying out the FBI Washington office and getting those people somewhere else out in the country because they sure did not do any favors to the people of the United States. This is going to go down as a very dark chapter in American history. And President Trump may have recourse now to be able to seek damages at some point in time.
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Co-host Amanda or Secondary Host
Congressman, I know that so many people out there, they feel like doomers when they hear all of this coming out, all the corruption. But I guess, you know, one of the silver linings is that it is coming out. But another silver lining is that as I was reading the details and the timeline of this, you know, we talk about politicos in Washington, the politicals, the political appointees, and it seems to me that by and large, the political appointees at the doj, they were the bad guys. And then you had a lot of good guys at the FBI. And I know the FBI got a really bad rap under Joe Biden, but you had FBI good guys and gals who were speaking up and saying, we don't think that there is a predicate. We don't think that there is probable cause. So that's another silver lining, isn't it?
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Amanda
Yeah, it is a good thing. But, you know, you think about some of them are just being crushed. I mean, some of these people should have been coming forward in real time and saying, hey, this is unacceptable. But they've really felt that they couldn't because they knew that those political appointees by the Biden administration would crush them. And we saw that in some of our hearings that happened over the last couple years where, where whistleblowers stepped forward and, man, they went after them like a ton of bricks. It's really unfortunate, but the truth is coming out. The great thing here is, you know, our moms and dads always told us that the truth is going to come out someday. And that's exactly what's happening now, though it should have never happened, these incidents. And it's a little later than we would have liked to. The truth is coming out.
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John Solomon
Yeah. So very important, Congressman, tomorrow night, the President is slated to give an address from the Oval Office. A lot of his aides telling us it will be about making America more affordable again. The progress already made, the progress still to be made. It seems like a platform for the President to give some big ideas, something akin to the GI Bill, which Gave us a great housing boom in the 1950s. What do you expect? And is this an opportunity for the president to put a 26 agenda that's as ambitious as his 25 agenda?
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Amanda
Yes, for sure. And if you know this president, I'm sure he's going to do that. I really enjoy listening to Treasury Secretary Besant over the last month or so because he talks with real optimism. But he has data behind him. And I look at up where I live in Wisconsin, we've got gas prices now under 250 a gallon. Lowest prices in like five years. That's a leading indicator of affordability here in the United States. Ag prices, you know, that was the big deal when President Trump came into office. Office. Egg prices are so high, that's what the Democrats were shouting. Well, egg prices have went down. And so I think we're at the leading edge here. And then when you see more money in people's pockets, when we have no taxes on tips, overtime or Social Security, I think that you're going to see people with more money here in 2026 in their pocket. And this economy is going to start to roll in 2026.
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Co-host Amanda or Secondary Host
Congressman, I want to roll into your gubernatorial campaign. Your current governor, who evers he pushed back against the Trump administration. John and I were talking about this earlier this morning. We learned so much during the government shutdown and we've learned so much this year about entitlements in this country and how they are blown to bits with taxpayer money. But Tony Evers would not allow an audit in that state. If you become governor, are you open to opening the books all across Wisconsin?
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Amanda
Yeah, no doubt about it. We should be sharing that information with the federal government. I mean, who wants to have fraud of taxpayers money? I mean, who supports that? It's evident that Governor Ebers and the Democrats do because they won't turn over the data to the federal government to make sure we get those fraudsters out. Look at what has happened in our neighbor over in Minnesota. It looks like it's $8 billion in counting that has been stolen from the taxpayers of the United States and Minnesota. The least we can do in Wisconsin is make sure something like that is not being replicated in the Badger State stage.
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John Solomon
Sarah, I want to talk a little bit about the culture on the left right now. You're going to be running into it as you run for Wisconsin governor. You've challenged it for years in Washington, but you have a left that seems to find drug dealers more sympathetic than fentanyl victims, illegal aliens more sympathetic than the victims who've been killed by illegal aliens, who think that defrauding the American government's no big deal and that the cold blooded murder of a National Guards woman was simply an unfortunate accident. How do we begin to change the conversation about what the far left has done to the Democratic Party?
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Amanda
Well, I think we just have to paint with clear contrast and we need to tell the American people the truth. You know, we can go out there and be Democrat light as Republicans, and people are going to vote for the real thing, Democrats, if we don't paint with that clear contrast. Just tell the American people the truth. I mean, think about in the state of Wisconsin, in this governor's last budget, he referred to mothers as inseminated persons. I mean, that's how nuts it is. I mean, when they're trying to take the language in the state budget and turn it into this political statement, people are tired of it. They just want their kids educated, they want a balanced budget and let them live on their own or just leave us alone is something I hear so frequently. And if we would do that, the American people and the people in the great state of Wisconsin, they're going to be just fine.
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Co-host Amanda or Secondary Host
You hear so often about our founders who said it, you know, quite eloquently in their language of the 1750s through the 1770s, but they often just said, please leave us alone. Crown Leave us alone, George. Leave us alone. Sir, before we let you go, I wanted to ask you, you know, we saw during the Biden administration thousands upon thousands of what the Biden administration deemed refugees, allowed them into this country, shipping them in the dead of night to various locales across the country. I think a lot of people have the notion that that is something that's agreed upon between the states and the federal government. But you are fighting to make sure that states and localities actually can veto this. That seems to me to make perfect sense. Why hasn't that been the status before?
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Amanda
Yeah, I don't know why it isn't. We introduced the CARE act that gives states and local governments the opportunity to be able to. To be able to have a say in regards to whether refugees are resettled. This is going to change their communities. Shouldn't they have a say in regards to that?
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John Solomon
So very important. Congressman, always a great honor to have you. I'm. We're watching that close in Wisconsin, that race in Wisconsin. Very close. It can be one of the bellwethers at 26. Always appreciate your time, sir.
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Amanda
Thanks, Amanda and John.
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John Solomon
Yeah, Great to have you on. All right, folks, we're going to take a quick commercial break. When we come back, back, another member of Congress running for governor, this time in South Carolina, our good friend Ralph Norman, up next, right after these messages. Hey, folks, you know, every day on just the news, we dig deep to bring you facts. No spin, no nonsense. And I've come to really appreciate organizations that operate the same way. That's why I'm proud to talk about amac, the association of Mature American Citizens. AMAC is more than a membership. It's a movement of patriotic, common sense Americans who care about freedom, fiscal responsibility and protecting the values that made this nation strong. Members get great benefits, from discounts to resources to a powerful advocacy team fighting for you in Washington. But what impresses me most is how AMAC stands firm when so many others cave to political pressure. And right now is a terrific time to join. Their five year membership is not only the most popular option, it also saves you up to 33%. Five full years of the AMAC magazine, five years of money saving discounts, five years of advocacy, five years of standing with an organization that reflects your my values. So if you've been waiting for the right moment to get involved, this is it. Head over to AMAC, US JustNews and become a member today. That's AMAC US JustNews.
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Co-host Amanda or Secondary Host
Welcome back everybody to just the news. No noise. The end of the year is in the offing, but the new year is but the news isn't slowing down. That's for sure. And especially for Congress because they have a lot to get done before the midterms next year. So joining us now to talk more about that what they can get done. He represents the great state of South Carolina on Capitol Hill and he is also running for governor of the Palmetto State. Congressman Ralph Norman. Thanks so much for being here, sir.
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Congressman Ralph Norman
My pleasure to be with both of y'.
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John Solomon
All.
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Congressman Ralph Norman
Thank you.
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Co-host Amanda or Secondary Host
Thank you, sir. All right, I want to start with redistricting. Indiana state, state senators absolutely whiffed on it. But South Carolina has a chance maybe. I think you guys have seven seats. I think it's broken down six and one. Should South Carolina redistrict and make it seven and.
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Congressman Ralph Norman
Oh, absolutely. District six represented by 31 year incumbent Jim Clyburn, who I like. If you look at the lines, Amanda, of the district, it's like a jigsaw puzzle. You would have to be a surveyor or a mystic or a psychic to figure out where to vote. The 14 counties that make up District 6, it splits eight of them. So six of them are intact, but eight of them are divided. And it makes no sense. It's discrimination at its height. And I think the people deserve better than this. 20% of the population there remains in poverty. It's an area that's primed for development, and we need to redraw it, let the people decide who they want and Congress. McCliver could very well go back in. It's a 46 minority, 44 white district. And so it's ripe for redoing. And I hope the legislature. The legislature will take it up when they convene in January. I definitely will when I become governor.
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John Solomon
Very exciting to watch. Going to be exciting to see. All right, sir, let me turn to a subject that you have been such an eloquent voice on, the weaponization of the Justice Department. Fresh example today. FBI doesn't believe there's probable cause to raid Mar A Lago and Donald Trump's home, but they did it anyways. The DOJ just blew past the FBI's concerns. When you look at this now, it seems as though we have such a body of evidence that the Justice Department violated Donald Trump and his followers civil liberties. Should there be criminal charges for civil liberties violations? And does President Trump have a good civil tort as well?
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Congressman Ralph Norman
Well, John, what they did, and y' all have done a great job on everything, on researching it, but to, to raid his home in August of, I think it was 22, and it just wasn't an ordinary road raid. They blocked the cameras out. He didn't know they were coming. They ransacked his home. It just shows you how the DOJ was corrupted. And it was led by Merrick Garland, then attorney general, and then, of course, Jack Smith and the National Archives felt like it wasn't enough evidence to raid the home. But it just kept going. And ultimately, I think it worked out for Donald Trump's advantage because I'm told, and I think he was, we were at a meeting with him where he, when he found out about the raid, he said, good, that shows the American people what this Department of Justice is doing to citizens. So I think it ultimately helped him. But at the time, it wasn't. I think it ought to be consequences and everything ought to be considered once the Evidence is presented, they ought to prosecute them to the extent of the law, including everybody involved with this.
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Co-host Amanda or Secondary Host
Congressman, there's something that is concerning about this. To me. You've got these members of the FBI who clearly were objecting very, very highly to the actions of people around them and their superiors. They did not become whistleblowers. They just stated it in these documents that John obtained earlier today. And I don't think that Congress should become overlords of the FBI. But if these folks aren't going to come forward and become whistle whistleblowers, what's the remedy?
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Congressman Ralph Norman
Clean it up. I mean, you have to stop bad behavior. And those who stay quiet, you know, that's no excuse. If they knew it was wrong, they should have said it regardless of the repercussions. And I think the oversight hearings ought to get into that. I think that the public is anxious not just to have hearings, but they want consequences. Look at what we went through in Russiagate. Look at what we went through as Donald Trump went through charge after charge that were later dismissed. But people that did this need to be held accountable for it. And, you know, it wasn't just Donald Trump that they prosecuted. Look what they did to Cash Patel. Look what they did to Mark Meadows. And the list goes on and on. And it's infiltrated with people who need to that perpetrated this. They don't need to be there anymore. It needs to be a cleansing. But air out all the documents, air out all the evidence, and then hold them accountable for it.
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John Solomon
Sir, tomorrow night, the President's going to give an Oval Office address, a rare moment for the American public. Lots of accomplishments to talk about for the 25 year, but it seems like also a platform to develop as ambitious an agenda for 26. If I know Donald Trump, he'll be leaning into 26 with big ideas. Maybe a housing boom for young people, certainly rebate checks, maybe a reform of health care. What would you expect the President to talk about tomorrow night?
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Congressman Ralph Norman
You know, I think he's going to go over something that the mainstream media will not do, which is to recognize the success he has had in a short 11 and a half months. I mean, look at what this man has done. He's secured the. Secured the whole world with what he did with taking out Iran. He stopped the flow of the illegals across the border. Look at the companies to the tune of $11 trillion who invested in America. He's done an unbelievable job in such a short period of time. And as he said in the first when he first took Office back in 2016 and at the end of it, promises made, promises kept, I think it will be an uplifting speech of affordability. I think he will put forth a plan with health care and he'll tout that the next three years are going to be unbelievable for growth in this country and he's putting the policies in place that'll make that happen. The big beautiful bill was amazing. I'm seeing the results of it in South Carolina. We have a lot of growth and so I think it will be a real uplifting talk and I think he will lay out his plan. And you know what he is so unbelievable at doing is bringing people together. He is actively involved. I don't know when the man sleeps. All I know is a lot of members he calls that constantly finding out what he can do and who he needs to talk with. The man works 247 and at the end of the day he just loves America and America is seeing what somebody that loves the country is doing. And he's making this happen as no other president that I know of could have done.
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Co-host Amanda or Secondary Host
Absolutely. As someone whose beat is the President of the United States, I can tell you the man really doesn't seem like he sleeps at all. And it leaves leaves me a little fatigued sometimes. Sir, I want to ask you about something you introduced today in the Financial Services Committee, this bill, the Rural Depositories Revitalization Study Act. I hear so often people who for years have been banking with bank of America or Chase or whoever these large banking institutions are and they consistently go to local credit unions because they are their neighbors, they are their friends at church and these are banking institutions that need to be strengthened. It sounds like that's what your bill is all about.
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Congressman Ralph Norman
Tell us about is what it's about, Amanda, is making, particularly for smaller banks, making them prosper and become viable because so often they're left out. One size doesn't fit all when it comes to banks. I've been on a small bank board for over 20 years before I got into the political arena. And the regulations need to be re examined. The fdic, every agency needs to see how can we help small banks because as you mentioned, they're the lifeblood of the community and small banks serve a purpose. There is a reason people go to banks to get loans on their houses, to get car loans, to get lines of credit. They provide such a valuable asset to any community. And on some cases it's taken nine years for a small bank to show profitability and now it's time to particularly now that we've got a president to cut regulations that don't make sense. Very seldom have we ever heard that regulations are going to be cut. We can do it now. And as you can see, with the vote 50 to 0. I don't think I've ever had a vote like that before. But not only are the politicians ready, I think the people and the constituents, not just in South Carolina, but all over the country, are ready to see this happen.
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John Solomon
Sir, before we let you go, one of the education processes that occurred during the shutdown, Americans got to find out what a mess Obamacare really was and what a win it was for corporate welfare for big insurance companies. GAO since has come out with these extraordinary stories of tens of thousands of unauthorized changes to enrollments in the plan and tens of thousands of people whose social securities don't match. It seems to me that Obamacare looks a little bit like that Somali fraud scheme up in Minnesota. What are you seeing? What are you hearing? And is this the moment that Obamacare is crushed?
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Congressman Ralph Norman
I think it's crushed, John. And we were. I was in Rules Committee for four hours today and we brought up the fact that waste, fraud and abuse, first identified by Elon Musk in the Doge Commission, and now what we found out from the GAO about, you know, Social Security numbers not matching live people and the people who were dead, the checks went out anyway to the tune of 38 billion and counting. The Democrats never raised this issue. All they want to do is provide, throw more money at it with no accountability. No business can sustain that. And ultimately no government can sustain just unlimited fraud and abuse like we've seen. You know the scary part about it? It's what you don't catch, it's what you don't know that's going out the door, but they just don't care about that. We will start to address that in the health care bill. It'll be a patient centered bill. Will it be perfect? No. But it'll be the first step in a long stairway to making health care patient centered, making it affordable and letting businesses have HSA accounts. And Obamacare never worked the day Nancy Pelosi said you got to pass it before you can read it and know what's in it. Those days are gone, and I think it'll be the first start in a good bill that I think will pass.
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John Solomon
Exciting.
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Co-host Amanda or Secondary Host
It's interesting. When Obamacare was introduced, they said it's going to increase affordability, increase effectiveness, and increase that doctor patient relationship. It did none of those things. But from what I heard from you, absolutely. From what I heard from you at the Report Republican Study Committee event a few weeks ago and a lot of your Republican colleagues, it sounds like that might actually be achievable this time around. So, Congressman, thank you so much for being with us tonight.
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Congressman Ralph Norman
My pleasure. Thank you. Merry Christmas.
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Co-host Amanda or Secondary Host
Merry Christmas to you, Congressman from the great state of South Carolina. That was Ralph Norman. All right, everybody. Next, what are the consequences if we lose the AI war to China? It's not good, I'll tell you that. We'll be into that on the other side of this break. Tell me the truth. How many different beauty potions do you have sitting on your bathroom counter right now? If it's more than just Vibriant Super C Serum. Listen up. The ingredients in this one bottle can replace your day creams, your eye creams, your night creams, your neck creams, your wrinkle creams, and your dark spot reducers. It's made in the USA with the highest quality ingredients in including vitamin C, hyaluronic acid, vitamin B5 and vitamin E. Super C serum delivers noticeable results. Simplify your skin care routine, get a healthier complexion and minimize wrinkles and age spots with Vibrance. And if you don't find it better than your current skincare routine, you'll get a full refund. So go to vibrance.com justnews to save up to 37% off and free shipping that is vibrance v I B R I A N C E vibrance.com JustNews.
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John Solomon
Welcome back, America. As you saw earlier this week and actually all through the of the past summer, the Trump administration and Congress leaning into the AI race.
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Congressman Ralph Norman
Why?
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John Solomon
Because America has to win it. It cannot allow China to gain supremacy. Joining us now to discuss the stakes, the solutions and what still needs to be done. He's the acting director of the center for Technology and the Human Person at the Heritage Foundation, Wes Hodges. Wes, great to have you here tonight.
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Wes Hodges
Thanks for having me. So good to see you.
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John Solomon
It is great to have you. All right, so let's referee the last few months of action, starting with President Trump's executive order and some of the things that Congress has done to try to get America atop this must win race. What are your thoughts on what's been done to date?
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Wes Hodges
Yes, I mean, so far this year has been the year of. I'm sure you saw Time magazine calling the architects of AI the the people of the year and it's hard to see how next year is going to be much different. So in Congress, of the many issues that there they've been tackling this year, it's been one question on what is the appropriate role for AI regulation in Congress and in the states and several attempts now have been made to try and curtail, remove states from the equation, in theory, to provide a federal standard. And we have yet to see a federal standard be put forward in Congress and, you know, to kind of pursue that goal, to get there, seemingly to get there closer. The president has called for a federal standard. And as a part of that call, he issued an executive order just last week that talks about using the authorities he has in the executive branch to restrain state AI lawmaking so that there's one set of rules for AI. Now, it's a very complicated issue. This, this executive order raises a lot of questions. It's a very high bar for the executive branch to strike down a state a. To strike down any state law. The law would itself have to be unconstitutional or unlawful. Mom. And you don't exactly need an executive order to do that. As well as in this executive order is the provision for his administration to add new conditions on discretionary grants going to states, conditioning that they have, you know, there. That they're a. AI laws are consistent with the executive branch's policies. Now this is an extremely hard burden for them to pursue. And if for any reason the executive order is executed unlawfully, not just right, the states are likely to freeze it right away. And, you know, if you're a blue state, you're probably thrilled thinking I have something to fight the president over. If you're a red state, you're probably stressed out thinking this is the worst thing to happen going into the midterm, an in fight between a red state and a red administration. And, you know, looking at precedent, it is hard to say that it's a great idea to say that the administration has the power to attack state laws that it doesn't like. For example, if the administration swaps to someone on the left, you know, would a president Kamala Harris, have the restraint to not attack Texas for its pro life or its energy abundance laws? So it's tricky lawmaking going down in Washington on AI and it's certainly not going to be the last of it. We're going to see some probably a lot more very soon.
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Co-host Amanda or Secondary Host
Yeah, that's right, Wes. This is still a new technology. And I kind of think of it as when we determined that 70 miles per hour was the sweet spot on highways. You want to find that. That balance between productivity, but also managing risk and keeping people safe. When it comes to AI, do you know where that sweet spot is? Have we determined if there is such legislation that puts us in that place where people can balance the risk with.
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Wes Hodges
The productivity the nature of AI is it affects arguably everything. It gets into energy and labor, into child safety. The list goes on and on. What does it mean for our creators, et cetera? So there's not one silver bullet when it comes to regulating artificial intelligence, which can frustrate many. We want to have the right answers for this, but there are some obvious things that bubble to the top. The one of the first ones that I would, that we are huge fans of here at the Heritage foundation is making sure that companion bots just aren't acceptable for children. Children should not be forming relationships with bots that could very, that do not have their best interests at heart. These things cannot know, cannot, cannot provide the sort of nurturing that a human being would. And we've seen many documented incidents, lawsuits, even showing how these bots have led children to self harm, to isolation, away from, away from their parents and their communities. There's just not a good reason on the books for why children should have generative companion bots. So that's a policy I would point you to is age verifying children to not use companion bots. That's not the same thing as saying no AI. There are plenty of good reasons in education and in other ways that children can use artificial intelligence.
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John Solomon
So Wes, give us the stakes. If America comes in second to China on the race for AI supremacy, there are some significant consequences, aren't there?
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Wes Hodges
Oh Lord, you know it. The, the stakes at play, you know, I've been talking about, you know, what gets wrong if we don't regulate it effectively. Well, if we lose, it's, it's an outcome just as bad. China does not have our best interests at heart. A world run on Chinese AI is even more autocratic than the worst stories we hear already from their country. They do not like our values. They do not want us to live well with one another in peace. In this world, a Chinese run AI autocracy, either formally or informally, is bad news. For the freedoms, for the pleasures, for the quality of life that we have come to love here in the United States, it's something that is unacceptable. This technology is dual use. It covers all of our consumer applications, the way we work, the way we communicate with each other. But it also has dramatic applications when it comes to warfare and global competition. So to lose there means losing in the most grand stakes when it comes to geopolitical struggles in the international stage. But it also means losing when it comes to our values, the way we work and communicate with each other. The stakes can't be higher. So whatever decision we make for how we regulate this technology. It has to be done in such a way that still has us win. And you know what? It's the American way. We can do it both. We can protect our kids, we can protect our communities, and we can beat the heck out of China.
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John Solomon
Yeah, what a great idea.
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Co-host Amanda or Secondary Host
Wes, you talked about the guardrails to protect young children. I'm wondering if there should be guardrails for college kids. I know that they are of age, they are technically adults, but I'm a little concerned about their risk to the public, especially for folks in medical school who are leaning so much on AI. What happens five, 10 years from now when these med students have, have leaned so heavily on this technology and they emerge from, you know, graduating from, from medical school not really having anything implanted in their own brain. It's just been regarded regurgitated by a computer.
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Wes Hodges
No, that's such an excellent point. I point you to comments made by the vice president, J.D. vance, who talks about technology, artificial intelligence as a way to augment human capability to improve to better outcomes and better our cognition and our abilities. That's quite different than replacing, than being a substitute for these capacities. So when it comes to medical school, to our future promising doctors, we want to know, after 12 months of using your AI tools, are you a better doctor or have you been made worse? Are you a better medical student or have you been made worse? The technology comes with a fork in the road. We can either use this responsibly to enhance humanity or to ultimately make us dumber, less productive, more tame. All the sorts of civic virtues or anti civic virtues that once founded this country. So you're completely right to care about cognitive offloading as we call it, and is it's up to the discretion of our institutions to make sure that we are applying this technology in responsible ways. So if there's not a responsible way to study with AI tools, as a medical student, you probably shouldn't. But you know what? I'm optimistic. I think they'll find ways that won't make them worse. Doctors.
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John Solomon
I don't know about you, I'm not sure about cognitive offloading yet, but I'm definitely ready to offload. Vacuuming, grocery shopping, shopping and things like that. So we'll see if AI can do that. I'm going to be a happy man, so. Well, it's great to have you on the show and thank you for all the great work you do. As a director of the center for Technology and Human Persons at the Heritage foundation, you're doing such great work. Great to have you on.
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Wes Hodges
Thank you.
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John Solomon
All right, folks, we got more for you right after this quick break.
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Co-host Amanda or Secondary Host
Welcome back, everybody. While the economy has improved under President Trump's administration, there are aspects in the economy that most Americans are just not being informed about and they're really not feeling it. Wall street as well as central banks are moving differently behind the scenes, buying gold at the fastest pace in decades. And major banks are quietly raising their gold for forecasts. And a growing number of analysts say that the system itself is being restructured. But what do these signals mean for your retirement and your savings? Joining us as someone who can help you protect your assets, CEO of American Alternative Assets, Shannon Davis. Shannon, thanks so much for being with us.
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Shannon Davis
Glad to be with you. Thanks, Amanda.
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Co-host Amanda or Secondary Host
All right. I want to ask you about the consumer confidence aspect of this economy. There are a lot of metrics that are moving in the right direction, direction. And there have been plenty of polls that show that the American people aren't tangibly feeling the results of it. And yet we had record spending leading into and after Black Friday, we've still got people spending lots of money heading into the holidays. Help those, help me reconcile those things.
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Shannon Davis
Yeah, I mean, I guess I must live in, in the cuts because I don't see it personally. When I was out on Black Friday, I was at Kohl's myself personally, and it was not jamming. I think it, the numbers to me, I think are always misguided. We did have on paper, I guess, a record Black Friday. But at the end of the day, the consumer confidence has been shaken for a long time. And if you continue just to pay attention to where our job market is and the thousands of jobs that are being lost, which no one's talking about, I think that's probably the biggest concern. And if everything's so hunky dory, then why are they lowering rates? You know, that's a signal of stress, not strength. You know, rate cuts are not happening because the economy is healthy. They're happening because something is, is wrong. And you're starting to see why they are lowering rates for the third time in a row.
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John Solomon
Yeah, Shannon, you have it right. Today's jobs report was a good example. 64,000 new jobs created, but the employment rate went up because there was a net loss. On the other side of that ledger, seems like big companies are starting to cut jobs, particularly in the white collar segment sector. Why is that? What's that dynamic and what should we read into it about the future of the economy?
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Shannon Davis
Well, this, this is dating back to Covid. I mean our economy has forgotten how to grow. We have no manufacturing. I mean we're $38 trillion in debt through stimulus packages, through funding, you know, countries, their wars. You know, it's pumping money back into our stock market. Our job market has not been good or healthy for a very long time. No one can find jobs. So it's a screeching halt. And so there's been very little firing because there's been very little hiring over the past four years. But now that the rubber, rubber is meeting the road now, now you're starting to see four year high on unemployment. People are struggling and you know there's the stock markets boomed and the rich are getting richer and that's where you're seeing the money spent.
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Co-host Amanda or Secondary Host
Yeah. Shannon, I want to ask you about a couple other factors regarding the jobs numbers. One of them, and I believe that director of National Economic Council Kevin Hassett talked about this today and he talked about folks who took the buyout from the government but they have remained in the job market so they are included in the unemployment number. And then also how does the H1B visa situation play into this as well?
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Shannon Davis
Yeah, I think unemployment is a very interesting metric. I mean if you have not been looking for a job for X amount of years, you're no longer considered unemployed. I think it's a very antiquated metric. I think they need to change it. But all reports that come out are always being corrected and are jaded. I don't think the B1 visa has anything to do with it. The numbers been jaded for a very long time. When you look at now hiring in targets window, that tells you everything. You know, Target people are looking for jobs anywhere they can get it and it's not easy in this day and age. And so I think we're going to have a very, very interesting Christmas. And again, I must live in the country because I'm in a pretty metropolitan area. I do not see the spending that everybody's talking about.
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John Solomon
So I want to talk to you quickly about gold prices. Up over 40 $300 an ounce today. Up well over 30% in the last year. People are turning to it. Why? And if you're trying to protect a retirement, why is this a good time to be thinking about gold?
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Shannon Davis
Yeah, I mean it's just getting started. Gold's actually up for the year, 62.7% silver. Looking at the numbers right now, silver's up 108.68% in the last year. There hasn't been this much demand in our entire history. And it's led by our central banks. They now own more physical gold than actual Treasuries. That says a lot. And so there's a lot of uncertainty. Man, you were just talking, that was a great, a great news clip you guys just did about AI that's some scary stuff going on, what you guys are talking about. Yeah, a lot of uncertainty. We've lost to China when it comes to technology. They're far surpassed us. So there's a lot of uncertainty globally. There's a lot of uncertainty with our dollar bill and there's a lot of uncertainty in our stock market, our unemployment market, our labor market. When you have so much uncertainty, you better have a portion of your money in gold and silver, platinum and palladium, something that's inverse to all of those uncertainties. And it's been proven for decades now that you want to have a proper position of gold and silver when markets are correcting like they are right now. So it's very important that you educate yourself, wake up and buy some gold and silver before China buys it all. That's for sure.
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Co-host Amanda or Secondary Host
Absolutely. Sounds like a good Christmas present to me. Shannon Davis from American Alternative Assets, thanks so much for joining us tonight and to our viewers, if you are looking to gain a deeper insight into what's truly occurring in the market and what it can mean for your retirement, be sure to get your free report today. Visit johnlikes gold.com right now and call 855-gold340, that's johnlikesgold.com or call 855-gold340. We're going to take a break and we'll be back with a few more stories on the other.
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John Solomon
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Co-host Amanda or Secondary Host
Welcome back, everybody. John, I wanted to get your take on something because we've got the Turning Point event that's coming up later this week that we're going to be covering here on Ravi. And, you know, after Charlie Kirk's assassination, his former friend and colleague Candace Owens had some, I think, hurtful opinions about what had happened. And it has just gotten stranger and stranger and stranger. And one thing was Candace Owens said that if Erica Kirk asked her to stop, she would, and of course, she didn't. So they were supposed to have this debate, and then it turned into a private conversation. And it's really unfortunate, and it's a really strange schism on that side of the aisle when it comes to someone like Charlie Kirk and his memory.
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John Solomon
Yeah, listen, there are people that just make money off of creating drama and creating conspiracy or theory. Maybe it's not a conspiracy, but a theory. People tune in for it just like they spent two decades, three decades doing JFK's assassination. You know, every theory, some. Some of those theories turned out to be right, as we saw with the most recent release of documents. But at the end of the day, Charlie would not want. I knew Charlie pretty well. He would not want all of this extended drama and grieving. He would want people to get back to the jobs that he was concerning about standing up for student free speech. We had the largest number of free speech events against students free speech this year. We've had a bad turnout. He was working on turnout. We had Republicans had a horrible turnout. He would not be sitting fitting his sums about conspiracy theories or responding to him. He'd be out doing the things that made him so successful. And I think those who don't do that are dishonoring his legacy and dishonoring the mission. That's still very noble, very important today.
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Co-host Amanda or Secondary Host
So it's timing the mission.
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John Solomon
Yeah, yeah. It's time again. I agree.
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Co-host Amanda or Secondary Host
All right, Brown University shooter. We rolled that footage at the top of the show, so everybody take a look. And if you have a Tesla that has the Sentry camera system, that is the 360 view. Send it in.
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John Solomon
This guy has an unusual walk. That right leg kind of bows outward a little bit. Someone's going to recognize that walk that way is there. He was casing the place earlier in the day. That's an important piece of information. Looks like he walks by responding officers at one point in the video footage. This video footage is really important. A lot of frustration with the local police department, the Brown Police Department, Providence Police Department, pressure growing that maybe the FBI should take lead. Not there. You can see one of the responding cars going by him. But that unusual walk is something that I think that right leg acts in a very unusual way. That's something I think should people should focus on. There's a lot of theories out there what happened. A lot of those were getting waved off of. We'll just wait and see. But there is some pretty darn good video footage. Remember, the video footage sealed the deal on Charlie's killer. So people, take a look at this. If you know anyone that looks like this, this is a good time to weigh in and let the FBI know.
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Co-host Amanda or Secondary Host
Yeah. And look, I can do a lot. Computers can do a lot. Technology can do a lot, but all also humans can do a lot. So as John said, if you live in that community and you recognize any bit of this, any bit of that walk that John talked about, please, please call it in. And also, again, if you have any of that. That footage, if you've got a surrounding home with. With ring camera footage, send that in as well. That's how. That's how these cases get solved. Absolutely. All right, everybody, thanks so much for being with us tonight. We will be back here tomorrow night at 6pm Eastern. Have a splendid evening. We'll see them.
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