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John
Good evening America. Happy Wednesday. Welcome to this Just the news real America's voice special report America's path forward the top issues for 2026 we are a year into the second Trump presidency. So much has happened and tonight, in just a few hours, President Trump will be addressing the nation where we expect him not only to go through what he achieved this year, but what he has for ambitions and policies for the years ahead. Tonight we are going to take a deep dive into what those policies could look like. And we want to start by thanking our partners at the association for Mature American Citizens abac, as a better known for joining us in this vital conversation. Over the next hour, we're going to talk about the issues that our nation faces, the challenges that have been solved, the challenges that must still be focused on and faced, and also securing our elections, restoring affordability for working families and reforming a broken health care system. Those are some of the biggest ones. And of course, one of the things that President Trump has already done unleashed an energy revolution. Gas prices dropping quickly to in some places near $2 a gallon, way below where they were when President Biden was in charge. President Biden, as well as congressional Republicans have launched bold initiatives already to address these issues, from the SAVE act to protect voting rights to pushing for energy dominance, especially in the artificial intelligence space and DOJ reforms to end the weaponization of our law enforcement and intelligence committees. Tonight we'll examine these priorities and how organizations like abac, with its millions of patriotic members, can drive real change through advocacy, education and grassroots education. We've got an outstanding lineup of guests to break it all down. New York Congresswoman Claudia Tenney is going to talk to us about election integrity, affordability and health care reform. Dr. Harvey Risch, the new chair of the President's Panel on Cancer at hhs. He's going to join us about talk about curing cancer. It's actually on the horizon. He'll also talk about health care priorities with him and Assistant Attorney General Harmony Dillon will also join us to discuss DOJ efforts to safeguard our elections and also to bring to account those who have violated the civil liberties of Americans during the weaponization era of the Justice Department. And we'll wrap up with Heritage foundation executive vice president and long term energy expert Derek Morgan on reviving America's energy future. But before we dive in, I want to bring in my amazing co host for the night, AMAC CEO Rebecca Weber. Rebecca, great to have you on the show, John.
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Rebecca Weber
Terrific to be with you. Love to be back.
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Derek Morgan
Yeah.
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John
We have so much that's happened in 25, the checklist that I think the president is going to mention, huge, from secure borders to peace deals to an energy revolution that has brought gas prices down. But a lot of work ahead. I know we're going to have a lot of conversations about that today.
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Rebecca Weber
Absolutely. AMAC members were thrilled to see the one big beautiful bill passed and they're looking forward to 2026 and really digging in. We're going to be doing a lot of advocacy, training, engaging our members, their grassroots everyday Americans that love this country. And John, we have so much to look forward to in 2026 as we celebrate America's 250th birthday. I'm very optimistic.
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John
Yeah. What an extraordinary time to be fixing America on its 250th anniversary. So many big ideas floating around. I think the president will address a lot of them tonight. And someone who's been carrying big ideas for a long time in Congress and getting them done is New York Congresswoman Claudia Tenney. And she kicks us off tonight. Congresswoman, great to have you on the show.
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Claudia Tenney
Great to be on.
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John
All right. I love the SAVE Act. I think it's one of the most important pieces of legislation that could possibly get through Congress into the president's desk. It's an 80% issue. Americans want proof of citizenship before someone registers or gets to vote. It's already passed and I know it's a top priority for 26. Tell us how we get it through the Senate and what it will do to restore trust in our elections if we do.
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Harmee Dhillon
Yeah.
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Claudia Tenney
John, I agree with you. This is one of the most important things we can do is to enshrine voter identification and ID to make sure that only US Citizens can vote in our elections. It's so critically important in such a simple matter. When you say 80 20. It's almost a 9010 issue polled among all demographics, among all parties. Everybody agrees that voter idol preserving one citizen, one vote is critical. And I just got to give you a quick anecdote. I was actually in Honduras for their national elections as an official observer with the House Intelligence Committee. And I hate to say that this country actually, when it comes to actually verifying voters when they come in, they do require a voter id and it has to be valid and each person has to show a picture. They also do biometrics to make sure that you are the person you say you are. The problem with their elections comes after when it talks about the custody of the votes and where the ballots end up and when the government interferes. But up until that point, they have a very secure system. And that's where our system is the reverse. We need to secure that each citizen is the citizen they say they are. Otherwise, we're undermining election integrity. And as the founder of the Election Integrity Caucus, the chair of that caucus, I started after my crazy 2020 election. And that was the crazy election that President Trump refers to frequently, where the pandemic interfered and we did not have a valid election in many cases, and we will never know the results. Just people ask me, well, did President Trump win or didn't he? We will never really know because so much was done to undermine that election. The SAVE act just requiring proof of citizenship so one citizen, one vote can happen, is a critical step, and it will secure that vote. When it gets to the most basic level, when you walk into the ballot box, where each individual needs to know that their vote is secure and they care about it. There isn't anywhere in American society where we don't have to prove our citizenship or prove that we are who we say we are.
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John
That's a great point.
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Rebecca Weber
It's such a really common sense legislation. The American people are behind it. Congresswoman, when you talk to people back at home, what are you hearing most often about elections? Confidence? Is there frustration or confusion?
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Claudia Tenney
Look, people very much want to see voter id. They want to make sure that they go in and they have confidence. A lot of people say, my vote doesn't count or I'm not going to vote. So worst thing that you can do, every vote counts and every election counts. I am the proof of it. I won by 109 votes out of over 300,000 votes cast in 2020. And this is why people just think, oh, well, I'm from New York. My presidential vote doesn't count. And unfortunately, we have low voter turnout. Contrast with Honduras, a very small country, huge voter turnout, huge interest in elections. And you see this around the world in places where people would love to have a free and fair election, where their vote actually did count and our votes do count. And I would love to see every American vot in every election, every true American citizen. It's really important that we express ourselves. This is the essence of self governance, the most profound act that you can do as a person who reveres self governance. Our Constitution, our freedom, our prosperity is to vote in elections. And we see people, I talk to them every day, I vote in every election, I look them up. They vote in every presidential election. But our local elections are equally important. That's where our most grassroots support is. That's where the closest we are to our citizen and to what happens on the ground. And I urge everyone, and I think that as Republicans and Democrats also, I've had Democrats come to me and say we need election integrity. Guess where that really matters? New York City, where the Democrats typically face each other in primaries, where the Republicans don't even have a fighting chance. So this is a non party issue, it's an all party issue. And I think that everyone should get on board to making sure that we get as much voter turnout in every single election that we possibly can. And I work on that every year, year round. My staff, we work on getting people to turn out and getting people registered to vote as much as possible.
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Rebecca Weber
Exactly. And restoring trust is so important regardless of party. Democracy only functions when citizens really can trust the process. What do you see as one of the maybe biggest obstacles to restoring this confidence in our elections?
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Claudia Tenney
Well, obviously it's the Democrats always continuing to gaslight the idea that if you have to show proof of ID that you're somehow, you know, racist or you're, you're, you're not trusting people. But that's actually the very essence of what it is. And again, when I, John cited earlier, this is a 9010 issue. The only the 10% that don't agree with voter ID are the 10% who've been manipulated by messaging from the Democrats. Because when you don't have voter id, that opens up the doors for cheating. Drop boxes opens up the door for cheating. Not being able to control the custody of the ballot, being able to know that when you put a ballot into the machine, it's going to be secured. Those things are, are really important and that is essential to maintaining election integrity.
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John
I guess going back when I was a younger reporter, I saw an extraordinary dynamic. It happened in the 92 election where the economy was actually getting better, was coming out of a recession. The statistics were better, but Americans didn't quite feel it at the dinner table yet. And I think we're in a similar moment now, which is the economy is proving it probably blossoms in 26, but right now it hasn't hit the dinner table or the water cooler in such a way. What are some of the ideas that President Trump can put on the table tonight or that Republicans could put on the agenda for Congress to make sure that that improving economy hits the dinner table in 26?
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Claudia Tenney
Yeah. Well, first of all, I think a lot of that is all the negativity coming out of the Democrats just constantly berating what's happening, saying that, you know, the economy's terrible and costs are up, but we are still living in the Biden economy. And what we did in this one big beautiful bill and the working families tax cut is we dodged a major bullet, huge tax increases, the largest tax increase that we would see in American history if we did not renew Trump tax cuts of 2017 and adds so much more into that bill. Look, that is probably one of the greatest bills in American history. All that we accomplished, renewing the Trump tax cuts, embracing and giving America energy dominance, closing and sealing the border, unleashing American prosperity, the ability of small businesses to reinvest in their businesses and grow our economy organically, bring jobs back to America, give us the boost that we needed. All those things are in that bill. Unfortunately, so much of that isn't going to take place till January 1. But we would be seeing a devastating economy had we continued the spending and the kind of subsidies that were going to the wrong places under President Biden. We're going to see actually a cut in the debt and deficit this year as we move into next year, which is going to help drive the economy. You know, we see the stock market moving, but that's not necessarily where working Americans are right now, people who live paycheck to paycheck. But once we get into the new year, you're going to see no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on our neediest senior citizens who are getting Social Security. We're going to see changes, unleashing American energy. Energy is one of the key factors that drives up inflation. The costs that have been imposed by the terrible energy policies of the Democrats has caused this inflation and is probably the largest factor. And I give you a perfect incubator to prove that. Look at the state of New York and their catastrophic Dangerous energy policies. You know, the lack of an all of the above strategy, the willingness of the Democrats and Kathy Hochul to eliminate the ability to have the wonders of natural gas and fossil fuels, which give us flexibility, which give us safety, which give us security, which give us prosperity and the ability to create and grow our economy and grow New York. People have left our state in larger numbers than any other state largely because of the energy policy. And we are facing really catastrophic problems. When you see that even left leaning groups are saying, hey, we've got to do something about policy in New York with energy because we're reaching catastrophic levels. We have got to do something about that. But it is a huge cost driver, transportation costs, energy costs for people just driving to work upstate New York, especially when you look at the really cold weather that we have, electric cars. And the electrification of our grid is not going to work. And when I talk about electrification of a grid, we do not have the power lines in upstate New York. It would take hundreds of millions of dollars to even handle what the Democrats dream of electrification is. You know, we need an all of the above strategy. Thankfully, in my district in upstate New York, which is the shoreline of Lake Ontario, that's where all the nuclear power plants are. And that could be the future of actually emissions free power. But we need an all of the above strategy. We can't rely on solar, we can't rely on wind. In upstate New. We have a lot of cloudy weather. We don't. We aren't ideal for that. We need everything and that's what President Trump is doing across the nation. We need to be leading on this issue and President Trump is showing that that's going to be the huge driver in our economy next year.
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John
Yeah. I think one of the most underreported ideas in the country is the energy Dominance Council that he created. It's what China did 20 years ago. We're catching up and making energy dominance the key to our security for economy and natural security. Congresswoman, as always, a great honor to have you on the show. Always watch. I always enjoy watching you and where you have so much common sense you inject into our U.S. capitol. Good to have you on.
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Claudia Tenney
Yeah, yeah, great to be on. And also remember, we fixed affordability. The Democrats created it. Wait till January 1st when our economy takes off. And Merry Christmas and happy holidays to all of you.
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John
Thank you.
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Rebecca Weber
Thank you, Congressman.
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Claudia Tenney
Thank you.
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John
Such a great conversation. All right, folks, we got more conversation just like that. That was a lot of fun. Was it? We got more on voter integrity coming up with with the Justice Department's top official on that issue. Harmony Dylan is going to join us in a second but before you do, I'm going to tell you a little story. I went to go see my amazing mother this past weekend. I had to get a rental car. I got 40% off my rental car. You know how I did that? I whipped out my AMAC card and I got a discount. What a great price I got. That's just one of many benefits of being an AMAC member. Others include Rebecca's amazing podcast every week, the monthly beautiful glossy magazine with big issues and of course daily opportunities to join 2 million plus patriots in doing right by this nation. I want you to come join me and be a five year card carrying member of amac. All you got to do to do that. Go to AMAC US Just News. AMAC A M A C US Just News. Right now you can get that five year membership, your most popular option and save just and save up to 33%. That is a great deal. It gives all year long. Go one more time. AMAC does. All right. We'll be right back with more great conversations.
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Welcome back, America, to this just the news Real America's Voice special Report brought to you by our friends at amac. Yep. Tonight, in just a little bit, President United States will address the nation on what he's accomplished in 2025 and what he's got planned for next year. Next year. I'm still joined by AMEX CEO Rebecca Weber as my special co host tonight. And I want to turn to two issues that are at the top of the President's agenda, election integrity and the ending of judicial and intelligence weaponization. No one has played a bigger role in 2025 in addressing those issues. And our next guest, he's the assistant attorney general for Civil Rights at the US Department of Justice and has brought some of the most important pieces in election integrity history in the last few months. She is Harmee Dhillon. Harmony, Great to have you back on the show.
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Harmee Dhillon
Thanks for having me.
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John
I was thinking about you yesterday when I got ahold of these documents that were sent to Capitol Hill. You have the president of the United States home in Mar? A Lago raided by a Justice Department after they were told by the FBI that there was not probable cause for such a search for such a raid. I know a lot of people wonder what is the way to fix this after the fact? I'm going to ask a couple questions. Are there any does the Justice Department have the ability to investigate things like this as criminal violations of civil liberties? And two, is there any conversation about creating some sort of victim program for people who are victimized by the Arab weaponization so they can get some justice from the Justice Department Department?
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Harmee Dhillon
Well, those are really good questions. And of course, the Department of Justice is at the heart of considering these issues right now. So I can't really talk about the specifics. But in general terms, yes, the Civil Rights Division and the DOJ generally does have the tool of a criminal conspiracy statute for conspiracy against rights. And this dates back to the start of the Ku Klux Klan and when the Klan and its predecessors used to go after people and they could involve sometimes local law enforcement to do that. And so we have the ability, if we can prove a conspiracy to violate someone's civil rights, that that could be a criminal matter. And so these cases are rare and few and far between. But it has been Something that we have been looking at in a few different fact patterns in this Department of Justice, including numerous instances of state officials violating federal rights. In this case, the allegation is that federal officials violated federal rights. And the other tools that could include Office of Inspector General inspections here at the Department of Justice. That also goes for lawyers who leak and betray confidences, breach privilege, and for people who violate their oath as attorneys. They could also face bar sanctions if there's a bar referral after an investigation like that. So I would say all of those things are on the table for lawyers and DOJ officials and others who conspired with them at the state level. State prosecutors, state police, and so forth, who conspired to violate civil rights. And it could also include executive branch officials from the first administration who knowingly conspired and orchestrated a violation of federal civil rights.
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John
Wow, that is a lot to absorb and an important point. You have been showing the extraordinary elastic and during enduring nature of civil liberties laws, and specifically election integrity laws, over half the states now are engaged with your office in cleaning up their voter rolls. You've created a new unit to protect Second Amendment liberties, just like they're a civil right. All the other civil rights, they're resurrecting things that have been on the books and showing that they have an incredible relevancy in the 21st century. What's been the reaction to that and what could voters expect in the 2026 election that might feel different from prior elections?
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Harmee Dhillon
Well, thank you. It is kind of crazy that we've had these laws on the books for decades, and yet the Department of Justice and prior administrations didn't use them. And so some examples are the Help America Vote act, which is one of the federal election laws that I administer. There had been no prior lawsuits to enforce states requirement to keep their voter rolls clean for all federal election rolls, which is basically they keep the same rolls for state and federal elections for the most part. And so we have brought these lawsuits first. We started by asking for voluntary compliance. And six states did voluntarily comply with our data requests and have shared their information with us. Some states are voluntarily now that the president has lifted a fee that was associated with cleaning their data through the federal SAVE database, some of them doing that on their own. And we're helping in coordination with other agencies, make sure that they have the data they need to take dead people off the voter rolls, people who are not citizens off the voter rolls, et cetera. I'm close to reaching an agreement, I hope, with 10 states. I've had discussions with a couple of other secretaries of state in my office just this week about whether they're going to comply or whether I'm going to sue them. Georgia has told us they're not going to comply. I'll be suing Georgia in the immediate future. And then I'm in litigation with 18 states in 19 different lawsuits over their refusal to comply. And they've raised objections, including privacy. I mean, I'm asking for stuff like the last four, somebody social. Whether someone's in the country legally or not or is a citizen or not is obviously a matter of federal record. So the concept that that's some kind of a privacy issue is total nonsense. So they have no right to be on the voter rolls. And so we expect to win these cases, but it may take us going up to the Supreme Court to do that. That's why we started it this year. We have to give states a chance. I'm also going after jurisdictions like Fulton County, Georgia, that still has custody of some ballots from the 2020 election that we'd like to look at. And there are a couple of other jurisdictions as well, reached a settlement with North Carolina, which is cleaning up its Voter rolls with 100,000 records that are incorrect that needed to be updated. And we waited on behalf of Wyoming's voter ID law and helped them win that case in court against liberal efforts to try to push that back. And so overall, what voters can expect in 2026 is cleaner voter rolls. Many election officials, like you said, John, are doing their job now that they've gotten these letters. Some are already doing it, to be fair, but you're going to see hundreds of thousands of people in some states being removed from the voter rolls correctly. And by the way, why did they hesitate to do that in the past? Because the DOJ and some left wing organizations would sue them when they did their job. So it's like damned if you do, damned if you don't. For the rest of this administration, we're going to be supporting states cleaning their voter rolls as required by federal law. And we're just getting started.
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John
Impressive.
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Rebecca Weber
Excellent. Yes. Pardon me. When Americans really hear that states aren't turning over their voter roll data as required, I think people are confused. But what you're saying is that from a legal standpoint, transparency in voter rolls is required under federal law. Why are states pushing back?
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Harmee Dhillon
Yeah, that's a great question. They're using this fake privacy consideration, or I won't say fake in some cases. They're saying our state law doesn't allow this, but federal law regarding elections and this data trumps state law. And we're talking about federal elections and people who vote for president, Senate, Congress. We have a right at the federal government level to ensure that only American citizens are voting in only one time in one state when they vote. And so this is a no brainer. One of the rarely used statutes that we're invoking here is the Civil Rights act of 1960, which provides that the Attorney General has the absolute right to get this data, and I'm her designated official who goes after it on her behalf. And so the President and the attorney general are 100% behind this effort. And we will march through all the 50 states and either get compliance or get a court ruling on these. And you know, we see a lot of amicus briefs coming in and groups like the ACLU and League of Women Voters weighing in on the other side against transparency. You gotta ask yourself the question, why would anybody want people to have less confidence in the outcome of our election? Supposedly we're all supposed to accept the election results no matter what they are. Well, I think that presupposes that all the laws are being followed, and so they're not. And people are trying to stop us from doing our jobs. And I think that's highly suspect.
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Rebecca Weber
And for our listeners in your role at the doj, how do you determine when federal intervention is appropriate versus when states really should resolve these issues themselves?
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Harmee Dhillon
That's another great question. So generally speaking, I know everyone comes to me, they call me, they besiege me at holiday parties, asking me to do something about one or the other things. And my response is, usually we're not the general purpose police. We are administering federal laws. And it is in rare instances that we'll step in. And for the most part, the police power resides with the states, but that's not exclusive. And so, so where Congress has passed a law or the Constitution demands certain fundamental rights be protected, we have the right to step in and enforce those. Now, in some instances, states are doing a good job of enforcing the law themselves and we don't have to get involved. So we try to coordinate with law enforcement partners at the local and state level before we determine whether we step in. So for example, there have been a number of, of crimes around the country that are deeply concerning. But if local law enforcement has them under control, even if there is a correlating federal statute involving, for example, a hate crime or something like that, we're going to preserve our resources for the next case if it's already being taken care of. If it's not being taken care of, then the federal government reserves the right to step in, investigate, prosecute and hold the criminals accountable. And so all over the country, I'm seeing hate crimes occur against Jews during this holiday season and against Christian churches. And sometimes local law enforcement is doing absolutely zero about this or worse, gaslighting the victims like in New York. And where that's happening, we're immediately opening federal investigations, coordinating with the U.S. attorney's offices in Manhattan and other jurisdictions, Los Angeles, and making sure that people are held accountable for these crimes.
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John
Really remarkable. All right, we just got about a minute left. I want to ask about one other issue that comes up. I heard you say that Georgia is resisting. Isn't Georgia in Republican hands? Isn't Brad Raffsenberger a Republican? Shouldn't he be cooperating with your Justice Department?
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Harmee Dhillon
That's almost a philosophical question at this point. Is he a Republican? But I digress. I'm a nonpartisan law enforcement official here. And he clearly dislikes the president. I think that's a matter of public record. And I don't think the average Georgia voter thinks it's a great idea to get into a beef with the federal government over this issue. It's a losing issue. And I don't know what he's doing other than flexing and I don't know what. But I feel pretty good about that lawsuit. And Georgia was one of the problematic states, as we all know, who followed the 2020 election with respect to ballot harvesting in the mail, in balloting and really a lack of control over that and particularly some counties. And then you saw the weaponization happen against the president in Georgia as well. Fani Willis is on the hot seat today on her abuses of due process and civil rights. And so we're looking forward to that fight and looking forward to winning it.
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John
Yeah, it seems like the law is definitely on the Justice Department side here, too, when you read it. So Assistant attorney general for Civil rights at the Department of Justice Army, Dylan, thank you for joining us and helping us understand these issues. Great to have you on.
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Harmee Dhillon
Thanks. Always.
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John
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John
Welcome back America to this just the news Real America's Voice special report brought to you by our good friends at amac. CEO Rebecca Weber is my co host still and we've got a great guest. He was just appointed by President Trump to be our next star for fighting cancer. He's the renowned epidemiologist and the man who had so much right about the COVID pandemic when our government government had so much wrong. He is Dr. Harvey Risch. Doctor, great to have you back on.
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Dr. Harvey Risch
Great to be back with you.
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John
First off, congratulations on this appointment. It is a big deal and I think there's a lot of optimism, particularly in the panel that you're chairing that cancer is defeatable, that we're making some extraordinary gains. Give us just sort of an update on where we are in the fight against cancer and what could be just over the horizon.
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Dr. Harvey Risch
Okay, well, the first thing is I don't want to over promise because everybody will get disappointed after, you know, things go the way we hope they will go, even. But cancer is a highly treatable disease. We have done great research over the last 50 plus years on cancer diagnosis and treatment. We've also done a very large amount of research in cancer prevention, which is my specialty. And, and some of that needs to be more visible. I think that I generally say if you drive by a cancer center, you'll see somebody's name in front of such and such cancer center. And that's because wealthy, grateful patients whose lives were saved or prolonged by their cancer treatments donated large amounts of money to their cancer centers. But what you won't See is the 3/4 of the population that doesn't get cancer and feel grateful for the fact that their cancers were prevented, that they didn't get cancer. So if all of them gave $10, you know, once, to a cancer center, we would be really great for cancer prevention. But that's not a very common understanding of what cancer is for our population as a whole. So my goal is to maintain and enhance our cancer industry, so to speak. I love the national cancer institute. I've worked with, with those investigators for most of my career. I think they're really outstanding scientists and to enhance, to the degree possible, methods that we can use to inform the public about things that they can do to reduce their risks of getting cancer in the first place. It's obviously much better to avoid getting it than it is to have to treat it. So that's kind of my philosophy.
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Rebecca Weber
Excellent. Doctor. What role does lifestyle factors play, such as your diet, obesity, even metabolic, Metabolic health? How does that play into cancer risk? And are there environmental or pharmaceutical exposures that really deserve greater federal scrutiny?
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Dr. Harvey Risch
All of the above. But I rank cancer exposures by the number of people who are affected by them, by the numbers of cancers that occur every year. Of course, the biggest, most important item is tobacco smoking, which accounts accounts for approximately 500,000 deaths, premature deaths from all causes, not just cancer. Every year after that, diet is involved in ways some of which we understand and some we don't. There is increasing theory that the inflammatory tendency of dietary constituents can lead to increased cancer risk. And interestingly, some months ago, I started thinking about this and I, I put on my telegram And Twitter pages a list of the common oils that people use in cooking. And I rank them in from least to most inflammatory. And there are some very good choices that people can use that don't cost essentially more than the common seed oils that are very good to substitute, to use as normal oils. If you want unflavored oils, olive oil is a flavored oil. It's a good one, but it's flavored. If you want unflavored oils, there's the various choices that you can make that are at the top of that list. So I urge people, if they're thinking about the inflammatory nature of their diet, to consult with that list or other sources on the Internet. There's various things that can be done for individual specific cancers. For example, stomach cancers, which is not all that common today in our population, but still exists, is related to the consumption of smoked and processed meats. Obviously vegetables and fruit are beneficial in reducing the cancer risk of the diet. And we're still learning about more specific things. But those are important aspects of a healthy diet.
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Rebecca Weber
Certainly. And a lot of that people can just do their research and make smarter choices, which is so important. Do you think patients today really have adequate access to alternative treatment options or emerging medications that are coming to market? Do Americans have that have adequate access?
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Dr. Harvey Risch
Well, it's not a question of access. It's a question of knowledge about all of that and being able to source the fringe from the real. You know, there is a whole industry of purported claims about medications and supplements that has to be sorted through and with with a skeptical eye. That doesn't mean that none of it is valid or appropriate. There are things that are being tried and investigated. Those things need more formal evaluation. They may work, they may not work. We don't know that yet. So there's reason to think about things. And also I propose to the pharma companies that they work on cancer prevention medications, basically things that are safe and low cost that they could patent and make money off of that would reduce cancer risk. There's no reason to think that pharma only has to work on treatments. They themselves can develop prevention measures if they choose to.
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John
Dr. One of the things that I hear so often and I experience it myself now, I've had my Same doctor for 20 years, but sometimes it's hard to get in to see her anytime soon. But the sort of post Obamacare era, with the consolidation of doctors in large practices, there seems to be some fraying of the doctor patient relationship. And of course that helps on preventative care. It helps on when you get sick. What are some of the best new ideas out there to kind of reinvigorate the doctor patient relationship and keep others out of the middle of it?
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Dr. Harvey Risch
Well, it's really hard to know. We all face this. I face this, my wife faces this, you know, in our life here in Connecticut. And I think that it's really hard to push back against a system that operates for its commercial interests, much more so than its patient interests. Doctors themselves work really feel their patient interest, but they've been forced to be parts of commercial practices. In large part that's reduced the number of sole providers and partnerships, individual practices here. That's been my experience and probably is true throughout the country. So it's a challenge now. And I'm not sure exactly how to deal with this. And I certainly wouldn't want to see regulation controlling this. I would like to see much more organic, natural ways that this is improved.
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John
And real quickly too, because you mentioned inflammation. Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine. Are you going to look at that as related to potential cancer applications?
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Dr. Harvey Risch
I think they're among maybe a dozen various medications that should have more formal studies. They may turn out that they don't help. We don't know that yet. Or it may turn out that they do. I've had a lot of anecdotal reports telling me that doctors have treated their patients with those medications. But you know, they never tell me really how many patients they treated that it didn't work. So honestly, I don't know yet. And this is why I say these things need more formal study.
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John
Yeah, very exciting time. Well, fresh eyes in the role you have will be an extraordinary gift to the American public. Dr. Rish, as always, great to have you on the show. Thank you for joining us today.
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Dr. Harvey Risch
Thank you. Great to be with you.
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John
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Derek Morgan
Great to be with you.
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John
All right, we've got some exciting opportunities ahead of us with the regulation busting, with the sort of reinventing of government and policy and the economy that's happening under Donald Trump after the bad Biden hangover. One of the questions I think a lot of people have is can Trump's EPA break the cartel that ethanol has had on our gas? It obviously concerns a lot of people. Give us a little bit of where we are in that process.
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Derek Morgan
Well, the EPA has put out a proposal that unfortunately in some respects is a step backward. What it does is it sets standard for ethanol at 15 billion gallons when that's well above the 10% that can be easily accepted in the fuel supply. And then on top of that, it is saying the exemptions that were granted to small refiners in years past all have to be made up for at once. So what this is going to mean is a lot more ethanol than the system can handle and higher fuel prices, even by their own admission.
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Rebecca Weber
Yeah, Derek, you know, affordability for average Americans, that's top of mind, especially for AMAC members. Now, energy prices really do touch almost every aspect of our daily life, from groceries to housing to healthcare. How central is energy policy to the overall health of our US Economy?
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Derek Morgan
It's very central. Not only you think of electricity prices that goes into the cost of almost everything, but when you think about the price of fuel, especially gasoline and diesel, just about everything these days is shipped, of course, across our roadways. And higher prices at the pump are going to translate to higher prices throughout the economy. So I'm hopeful that the president and his team at EPA will take a hard look at this rule and decide at the very least they're not going to reallocate all these small refinery exemptions onto the rest of the industry. Industry. Not only would that be higher prices at the pump, but it could also put good paying refinery jobs at risk in places like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin.
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Rebecca Weber
Can I follow up and ask you, in your view, how much of the inflation that Americans are experiencing in recent years can really be traced back to energy policy decisions, quite a bit of it.
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Derek Morgan
But I think that not this one particular proposal I think is a small step backward. But overall, the administration has done great things for energy. They've opened up production from coast to coast, and we're seeing increased production, we're seeing healthy refineries. That's why this discordant note from EPA is concerning. But for the most part, the President really gets it. He understands we need inexpensive energy and we need reliable energy. He also took a huge step forward with getting rid of the EV mandates that President Biden had put forward that were causing cars to just be way too expensive. So overall, I'd have to give him an A on his energy policy, even though this one policy with RFS and ethanol is heading in the wrong direction.
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John
Derek, one of the things that has happened over two or three decades is we've made American farmers reliant on the notion that the ethanol mandate is their way to keep their product prices up. But in a world where new trade deals are being struck every day, how important will it be for President Trump to open up new food trade deals for our farmers, open up new markets, even if he does bring down the ethanol requirements? And where corn goes now, is that. Do you see some evidence that that is happening now?
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Derek Morgan
Absolutely, and it's encouraging. And it has to happen. Our farmers are the most productive in the world and we can be feeding the world. And so the President is addressing that. He's pushed especially on China, particularly on soybeans. But look, corn and soybeans, which can be diverted into fuel, are best as food sources. And the President's trade policy is opening up markets one by one. That's the way to go. That's the way to sell these crops for the best price and to keep the rural economy strong and not hurting consumers at the pump.
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Rebecca Weber
Certainly, yes. Derek, what do you think is one of the most misunderstood claims about green energy and the economy?
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Derek Morgan
Boy, there's so many, I would say, this whole notion of inevitability. We heard this so much over the past decade, or maybe more, even going back to the Obama administration, that electric vehicles were the future. Well, they just don't work very well. In addition to being expensive, the infrastructure is not there. They don't work in all the use cases as a second car for a commuter car, it might work okay, but forcing everyone into an EV is just not going to work. We need gasoline vehicles, diesel vehicles, especially for over the road trucking and for people that are in their car all day, they can't be sitting waiting hours to fuel up if you're a taxicab driver, if you're out there doing lawn maintenance and that sort of thing. So why try to fit everybody into the EV box? I could say the same thing for green energy and electricity. Wind and solar is good where it works and when it works. But obviously solar doesn't work at night and wind doesn't work when the wind isn't blowing. We instead need to have reliable and affordable energy. And President Trump gets this in spades, and they are making great strides toward that.
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John
Derek, Another area where the energy system has found a bottleneck is in updating the grid and getting the grid ready for the AI revolution. It seems as though big public works projects, particularly in blue states, they simply can't keep up with the demand or the requirements of an AI future. But there's lots of innovation going on where we're now beginning to create these mini grids and you're seeing data centers build their own grids independent of that. How important, how important is that out of the box thinking and how prevalent might it become under President Trump?
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Derek Morgan
It's very important and we're seeing some great signs for that, for kind of dedicated, be it natural gas, eventually, someday nuclear as well, with the development of small modular reactors, potentially, I think that is going to be the shape of the future. You know, transmission is important. Sometimes it's wrapped up unnecessarily with wind and solar because these fields can be far, far away. So they're saying, well, we got to have the transmission and that's fine. But the bigger problem with wind and solar, these intermittent sources, is that we just don't have the ability to store the energy when the sun is shining. We do not have the batteries for it. And even if we did, it would be hugely expensive and take a lot of raw materials and end up being harmful for the environment. So I think the most critical question is what are going to be our fuel sources? Are we really going to use all of the above, allow natural gas, nuclear, even coal to play its part in our energy future? If we do that, we'll be successful. And if we don't, we're going to be competing with China with a hand tied behind our back.
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John
Yeah, that's exactly the way to lose the AOI war. Derek Morgan, always a great honor. We love the great work you and your team do at the Heritage Foundation. Merry Christmas. Thank you for joining us today.
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Derek Morgan
Thank you, John. Thank you, Rebecca. Great to be with you.
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John
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Rebecca Weber
Absolutely. I mean, I think Americans are, you know, have largely lost trust in a lot of these government institutions. But what we're hearing from Dr. Reich is that his common sense approach is so refreshing. The whole idea that he's able to look at things from a very holistic approach and sort of peel away the red tape and talk about things that quite frankly, people are afraid to talk about, things like ivermectin. And what he suggested is there's a lot more work that we need to do there, but those are very important issues and top of mind for so many AMAC members. So it was really great to hear how much science is bringing, you know, new technology and cures we pray are going to be something of the future, which is, which is important to all people. It was really just an incredible lineup, John.
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John
Yeah, it really was. And great questions all through. I mean, we just, it was an amazing conversation. I want to turn to someone else who brought a different approach. A lot of people think, well, we need a lot of new election laws. Harmony Dhillon, as the assistant attorney general for civil rights, she proved that you could use the existing laws on the book to accomplish What Republicans had long failed at accomplishing, which is getting these voter rolls cleaned up, getting states to comply with various laws, but just going back and having a fresh look at the old laws and the books. She came up with some pretty big new tools.
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Rebecca Weber
Yeah. Election integrity. So important, so important to AMAC members. A very top priority, number one issue. And you have to wonder who in their right mind would not want to clean up their voter rolls. So American people are smart. They understand basic common sense. Every legal vote should count. It is our sacred right to vote. This is an issue so close to AMAC and an issue that we'll continue to fight for. We've got to do that in order to ensure that our elections are free and fair and that people are not disenfranchised. We've got to get more people to participate in our great republic. And, you know, hearing from Harmeet brings me so much hope. We finally see that somebody's. We have an administration that's really paying attention and working for we the people. Yeah.
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John
AMAC played such an important role in getting things like the citizenship vote, citizenship issue in front of the American people, making sure only citizens vote. It's been such an important vote. So we got about 45 seconds left. What do you expect to hear from the President tonight?
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Rebecca Weber
Well, I think the president's going to talk about his historic accomplishments, John. There were so many in 2025. It wasn't long ago, a couple of weeks back, I heard the president say, look what I did with the border. Nobody is talking about the border. Everybody forgot how bad the border was. But we have to remember so many of the, so many great things that he's done. I think we're going to hear him talk about the economy, inflation, certainly. I think he'll go on to talk about the great accomplishments he's made. He's really looking to protect our country, our citizens, get rid of these drugs, illegals that are wreaking havoc in our, in our suburbs. I think it's going to be a very important speech and I'm really looking forward to hearing it.
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John
Yeah, I got a sneak peek at it. The first section is what. What he inherited. Second Sec. What section is what he's already changed and affix in section three, what he's going to change and fix. And I think a lot of them are going to be music to AMAC members ears. Rebecca, as always, it's such an honor to go see conversations with you folks. If you want to say thank you to AMAC for what they do, go to Amac Us Justin. Go buy yourself a five year membership or a family member, a loved one. 33% off when you use that URL. AMAC US justice back tomorrow.
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