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John Solomon
Good evening America. Happy Friday and welcome to a very special edition of Just the News. No noise. We've been talking about this. Tonight we're going to address this subject, China syndrome, Beijing's imminent threat, inside academia and biolabs. I'm your host John Solomon, reporting as always from the nation's capital. Tonight we're going to take a deep dive into some shocking reporting about the extent to which Chinese Communist Party has been infiltrating America's most prestigious universities and will also attempt to uncover how and why they're doing it. We already know the major reason. They're looking to steal the intellectual property of the United States in a number of different scientific fields and including bioterrorism, bio biology, and of course our high technology. We've got an incredible field of experts to break that all down. Now, before we get to that, I want to stop here because there's one piece of breaking news I want to make sure we acknowledge at the top of the show. I don't want today to pass without this happening. It was a little over 13 years ago when a group of terrorists attacked the Benghazi compound in Libya. They killed our ambassador there, Chris Stevens, and three other Americans. Movies like 13 Hours were made on that harrowing day. We were lied to. At the beginning of that episode, we were told it was America's fault that that attack occurred because there was some anti Muslim video making the rounds in Libya. That wasn't the reason. It turned out it was an organized terror attack involving an offshoot of Al Qaeda. This morning, FBI Director Kash Patel went out to a airfield here in America and greeted one of the terrorists who carried out that attack. He was arrested, detained, and then he was extradited to the United States. Justice finally for the victims of that horrible attack nearly 14 years ago. All the details are over@justthenews.com go check that out. I didn't want today to pass. Now here's an amazing thing. Kash Patel is going to kick us off on this show in just a few minutes. But first, let me get back to you to the theme. We've got new details to get to you regarding the FBI's raid of a Chinese linked biolab in Las Vegas. The man who allegedly ran it also was tied to another biolab, a legal biolab that was discovered in California in 2023. Right. In the aftermath of COVID These stories should concern us all. Dangerous pathogens right among us in suburban neighborhoods in California and Las Vegas. As I mentioned, we're going to talk to FBI Director Casp Patel about that particular story and whether we were misled about these Chinese threats by his predecessor, Chris Wray. We're going to dive into that. A lot to go on tonight. All right. Before we do that, let me tell you who else is going to be on the show tonight. We got a good one. The director of the national institutes of health, Dr. Jay Bhattachar is going to be here. We're going to ask him, have they stopped that dangerous gain of function? You're going to get an answer tonight for the first time. He'll also tell us what he's doing to stop the infiltration of Chinese academics in our prestigious universities. And then the chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Congressman Rick Crawford of Arkansas is going to join us. He's going to talk about what they're learning at the intelligence level about China's intentions with these things. And finally, we'll bring it all together with a group that gave us some of the data for some of our big stories in just the news the last week. The head of the American Accountability foundation will be here with us to describe that bombshell report about those card carrying members of the ccp, the Chinese Communist Party, who are inside our universities, in some cases working on taxpayer funded projects. Tom Jones, the president of that great group will join us so that's a great show. Before I get to that incredible lineup, let me bring in my amazing co host, Amanda Head. Amanda from Benghazi, where we were denied truths for a long time to the Chinese threat, which we were often denied truth on, particularly during the Biden years. We're starting to get a sense of just how much truth we were denied and also how much opportunity we have now to fix very large security vulnerabilities in America. Just want to get your thoughts on what lies ahead in the show today.
Amanda Head
Yeah, John, incredible, incredible development on Benghazi. To, to borrow and twist the words of Hillary Clinton, this, this is why this matters at this point. This is this. You know, we all remember what she said during that hearing. That was such a flippant remark. At this point. What difference does, what difference would it make? This is the difference that it makes when you have an FBI who dives in and tries to, to get answers and achieve those answers so that those who lost loved ones on that fateful day in Benghazi can rest a little bit easier. And then, you know, shifting to this China conversation, John, I don't think that there is any doubt within this administration that China is our adversary. We know that former President Joe Biden repeatedly characterized it as competition, not an adversarial relationship. But you look at the chemical poisoning or terrorism via fentanyl, the medical or viral poisoning via terrorism from COVID I mean, this is a country that is trying to work its tentacles into every sector of our country and our country's society. And I can't wait to dive into everything that we're going to learn tonight.
John Solomon
Yeah, there's no doubt we're going to learn a lot. The prior administration opened the border so that thousands of military aged Chinese men came across the border, including people like those who were running these labs, these illegal biolabs, they shut down the FBI's primary counterintelligence program called the China Initiative. And of course they didn't bring justice to the terrorists who carried out that Benghazi attack. In one year, all that has changed under Cash Patel, under President Trump, under Jay Bhattachara, Under Vice President J.D. vance and so many others. And earlier today, you and I had a chance to sit down and spent some time with Casp Patel. He had just gotten back from the airstrip where that terrorist had been brought to justice in American, back here on American soil. And he had some bombshells to tell us. Folks, take a watch to what Cash Patel told us. All right, joining us now, the man behind that extraordinary arrest and extradition today in the Benghazi case, as well as that raid in Las Vegas this past weekend on that Chinese biolab, the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, a good friend of our show, Kash Patel. Mr. Director, good to have you back on.
Kash Patel
Thanks so much for having me.
John Solomon
All right, we want to be talking about China. That was the purpose of today's show. But this arrest, this extradition, a decade in the making. Tell us how it came down.
Kash Patel
Absolutely. Look, President Trump has never forgotten Benghazi and President Trump never forgets to provide for law enforcement and make sure we use law enforcement to give the families a modicum of peace and justice that they deserve. This administration and the Attorney General was relentless when then Deputy Director Dan Bongino and I spearheaded the effort to go get Bakush, an individual who's allegedly responsible for the terrorist attacks in Benghazi that took four American lives. And over the last few days, we were able to successfully execute a foreign transfer of custody, apprehend this individual overseas. And I was there on the airfield at about 1am this morning or 2am this morning when he landed at one of our airfields and was taken into official custody to face prosecution.
Amanda Head
Absolutely.
John Solomon
Wow.
Amanda Head
Yeah. Great answers for the American people and those involved. Cash. Director, I want to move on to the issue of this lab in Las Vegas. At one point during the Biden administration, I believe there was a 700% increase in Chinese nationals who had come into this country via our very poorest, basically wide open southern border. What tipped you off to this? And do you anticipate that there are going to be more facilities like this?
Kash Patel
Look, this FBI under this leadership has prioritized a threat against by the CCP against us. And we've taken swift action. Just last year in Michigan, we arrested three individual researchers at the University of Michigan who are trying, not trying, did import illegally biohazardous materials and pathogens into the United States of America to not only destroy our ability to successfully have scientific labs that are pro America, but but also attack our agricultural and bioseed industry. And so we've been on it since then, specifically to this one over in Las Vegas. We knew about this information and worked with the state law enforcement authorities there in Las Vegas to execute these search warrants and collect over a thousand samples of material that has now been sent back to the FBI lab for analysis. And this is something that we're continuing to uncover because if you recall, a similar incident in Reedley, California from a few years ago was evidently buried by the prior administration, and they said it had no connection to the ccp. When we discovered that, we took swift action to course correct the intelligence and figure out why the American public was misled by individuals in this institution, including my predecessor. We're going to get to the bottom of it. We're just awaiting the lab results, and we're going to keep going.
John Solomon
So, Director, during the Biden years, the border obviously was opened up, as Amanda said. But another thing happened. The China Initiative, which was the FBI's number one counterintelligence effort against Chinese espionage, particularly carried out through academia. It was shut down. Hundreds of more scientists came in. There was a blindness for a series of years. Is the China Initiative back in force, or do you have something new that's resulting in all these discoveries and all these arrests that you're beginning to make?
Kash Patel
Well, look, this is just another disastrous example of failing to protect national security by the Biden administration, who takes down an initiative against our number one adversary, the ccp, when they are not only conducting counterespionage activities here in the homeland against Americans, but also overseas and importing illegal biopathogens to harm our way of life. That is an intentional, poor decision to the detriment of our national security. President Trump came in and said, we're reversing course. We don't necessarily need a new initiative. We just need the FBI all in against the ccp. And that's what we've done. You saw our success with fentanyl in mainland China and that extension of our abilities to locate individuals from the CCP who are interfering and breaking the law has never been a higher priority in this administration over the last year than it is now.
Amanda Head
Director, you mentioned your predecessor, Chris Wray, and I distinctly remember when he was testifying to Congress, there was a moment where he talked about how lights were blinking red. And I think that was around the time that they had bolos out for military age, fighting males coming in from various countries. But does it seem to you, as you look at the work, or maybe lack thereof from the previous administration, that the lights, the lights blinking red? Maybe he was just saying that, but did he ever do anything about it?
Kash Patel
Well, lights can blink whatever color they want. You have to be the Director of the FBI to know the CCP is our number one adversary and is going to continually threaten our way of life. What we did in the last year with the President Trump and the Attorney General, Department of Justice, is reprioritized our dynamic threat landscape, going after and disrupting and criminal. And looking after the criminal activity from the CCP. We've arrested over 40% more individuals from the CCP for espionage alone last year. 40% increase in one year. And as you guys brilliantly pointed out, that's because for four years there was an open border policy that allowed them and other adversaries to infiltrate America, not just through cyber warfare, but personally. Come here, buy land, go to our universities and inject themselves illegally, if not and improperly, into our way of life. And this FBI has made it a priority to continuously get after it. And you saw that when we raided the lab with the state authorities in Las Vegas. And once those test results are back, we'll go public with what we found. And we'll also be talking to our partners in Congress to say, hey, this intelligence that you were given and this summary you were given previously was dead wrong. And I'm not going to mix any words about that.
John Solomon
Yeah, Congress and the American public were misled about the 23 discoveries, there's no doubt. All right, so you have you corrected the intelligence. You're helping us understand it. What's our best understanding of why the Chinese government would have these freelancers in a garage with dangerous biopathogens while having scientists sneak them into the country? Is there any of assessment what China is trying to achieve when you have these sort of dangerous things in a vacation home? A risk of a pandemic is very high.
Kash Patel
Yeah, look, it's a couple of things. One, first and foremost, they want to disrupt our way of life. They see us on these positions that we take in agriculture and science and engineering to be the world leaders, because we are. And that leads us to the second point. What they want to do is steal it. They want to come in and if not, steal the very secrets that we have that feed our nation and the food programs in our nation are national security, as the Secretary of Agriculture always pointed out. She's right. And so what we have to do is continuously work the interagency process to make sure that we are attacking every point in which the CCP is coming into our country to attack us. And we're not going to stop.
John Solomon
Huge.
Amanda Head
Director, I want to ask you about the FBI Most Wanted list under Joe Biden and under Director Wray. I think the number that sticks out to me is that there were only two during the entire Biden administration. There are obviously residuals from that last administration that are still on there. How many in what, a year or so of being on the job has the FBI captured?
Kash Patel
I believe they captured four in the totality of the Biden administration. But in the first year, thanks to President Trump's leadership and backing of law enforcement and resourcing of law enforcement and our great partners at DOJ, in one calendar year, we captured six of the FBI's most wanted fugitives on planet Earth. That include terrorists, murderers, rapists, and narco traffickers. And I know you guys covered it just the other week when I was down in Mexico and personally brought back not one, but two of the most wanted fugitives on our list in one fell swoop, including Ryan wedding, the modern day El Chapo. And we're able to do this because President Trump has backed law enforcement, has removed the bureaucracy and handcuffs from law enforcement, and also has made it a priority to safeguard our future in our way of life. And that's the job of this FBI, to make sure that we hold those accountable who wish to threaten us and do, in fact, threaten us by pouring tons of narcotics into our country, murdering innocent civilians, and jeopardizing the safety of our children.
John Solomon
So important. Mr. Director, one quick last question before we let you go. We know how busy you are. Your work at the FBI has exposed the CCP trying to steal our intel and our innovations that you've seen it with the biolabs and putting us at physical risk with these pathogens. Earlier this year, you released evidence that China may have been trying to send fake driver's licenses into the country to meddle with our election. Is there a broader portrait starting to emerge that China might have been also meddling in elections and politics in America?
Kash Patel
You know, we're working with our interagency partners. The mandate of the FBI is to see if there's any criminal basis to launch an investigation. And a lot of other of our other great cabinet partners have a mandate on election security and election fraud and working with them. And hopefully we'll be able to publicize that information together soon.
John Solomon
That's going to be a big moment, Director. Elections have consequences. That's one of the oldest adages in politics. There's no better example of the consequence of the 2024 election. The very different FBI you preside over today. It's a great honor to have you on the show. Thanks for joining us.
Kash Patel
Thanks so much. And thanks again for all the men and women of the FBI who brought us Bakush and brought Benghazi to the forefront again, because there needs to be accountability. And we're not done yet.
John Solomon
It's a great agency and great people down in the rank and file every day. Amazing stuff, sir. Thank you so much, folks. More on this extraordinary TV special, China Syndrome. Joining us next, the director of the national institutes of health, Dr. Jay Bhattachary. He had COVID 19, right? He's also on top of this China threat. He's going to tell us how right after these messages. Hey folks, I used to think a mattress was just furniture until I got my Ghostbed. Because Ghostbed doesn't build mattresses like furniture. You know what they build? Engineered sleep systems. Their beds are serious health equipment beds designed for relief and recovery, not looks, not fluff. Your body should be healing while you sleep, not fighting for comfort. I notice a difference right away if you are waking up stiff, tossing and turning, sleeping hot, even reaching for a pain reliever before you hit the bed, hoping tonight will be different. That's not aging. That could be a mattress talking to you, giving you a warning sign. Here's another thing I love about Ghostbed. You get 101 nights to try it at home. If you don't feel the difference, you can send it back risk free. Ghostbed is offering my audience their lowest prices of the plus an extra 10% off. Go to ghostbed.com justnews use that promo code just news. That's ghostbed.com justnews use the promo code just news.
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Amanda Head
Welcome back everybody to this special edition of Just the News. No Noise China Syndrome Beijing's Imminent threat Inside Academia and biolabs. Now, we just spoke to FBI Director Kash Pat tell about the CCP linked biolabs that we have found, including the one in Las Vegas that was raided just last week. So what we also know through our recent reporting here at Just the News is that the CCP has sent students to infiltrate America's top universities, where theft of US Technology obviously occurs. So joining us now to talk about all of this and more is the director for the National Institutes of Health, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya. Director, thanks so much for being here.
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya
Thanks for having me on. So good to see you, Amanda. So good to see you, John.
Amanda Head
Great to see you. And you know, during the Biden administration, we spent a lot of time talking about our poorest southern border and the diseases that were possibly coming through. I remember there were cases of bubonic plague in Colorado, in California, in New Mexico. These were cases that we had not seen in decades. So now for you in this position, not only do you have to worry about those instances of diseases coming into our country, but now it's in a more nefarious form with these biolabs. How do you split time between all of this and is there enough coverage of resources for all of it?
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya
Well, I mean, my job is primarily to run the nih, so, you know, it's to do research for how to treat those diseases and, you know, hopefully prevent them. But I do cooperate with the efforts of other parts of government and provide technical advice. And fortunately for me, there's some amazing scientists here who are very talented in thinking about, about these threats. And we're happy to help other parts of government figure out how to, how to manage it.
John Solomon
Yeah, we're lucky to have that expertise. And also under new leadership, I think it was craving new leadership. Dr. I want to talk a little bit about why China would take the risk of having some of its people open up a biolab in a garage, in an Airbnb or in a home in a suburban area, in very populated areas, local containment, weird storage systems. That's all what we see in the court records. What could their possible motive be to take that level of risk on our soil?
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya
You know, John, I've been wondering that myself because, you know, this is not the first, this, this Vegas story. There's also a lab in Readley, California. I think it was 2024, and it had the same kind of provenance and with a very similar kind of, kind of a story. And, you know, I can, I can tell you various kinds of speculation.
John Solomon
But.
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya
Rather than do that. Let me just say it's very, very dangerous to find the kinds of agents that have been reported publicly about in a situation or setting where we're seeing men in spacesuits emptying them, but not usually men in spacesuits actually doing the research in them, as we saw during the pandemic. When you do research like this, potentially in an environment where there's very little biosecurity, you're posing hazards to everyone around you. And the fact that it's completely flying under the radar screen, it takes, like, you know, chance encounters to figure out that this is actually happening. We need a better system for detecting and preventing these kinds of labs from popping up so that they don't cause the kind of havoc that the sort of. The worst kinds of stories would lead you to think might happen.
Amanda Head
Director, is perhaps one of the ways of detecting this early. I mean, I've never been inside of a lab, whether it was homegrown or in a medical facility. But I'm assuming it requires a lot of different equipment that maybe could be flagged early. If there's someone who's purchasing this type of stuff, maybe that's a way of preventing it.
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya
Absolutely, Amanda. But also, I think there are, like, new systems because there's a lot of data to track through, and much of the equipment is used in other settings, so it's completely innocent. So the question is, how do you detect the signal from the noise? And the good news is that there's a lot of effort that I've seen to be able to do that. And so the American people should know that this is something that the Trump administration is working very, very hard on so that we can detect the signals when we find them, but also not, like, end up getting so many false positives that makes people so worried over nothing. It's something that's actively being worked on right now.
John Solomon
That's pretty exciting.
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya
We.
John Solomon
It's probably been a hole in our safety net on that. When you came in, I think there were more than a thousand scientists from foreign countries, mostly from China, that were in various institutions that do research in America. Some of those scientists are very talented, very capable. Some of them, as the. The foundation on American Accountability showed, have strong allegiances to the Chinese Communist Party, strong allegiances to companies that, working with the Chinese military, the pla. I know you and your colleagues and the other agencies, hhs, as a parent organization, ag, are looking and revetting those scientists. Can you tell us what that. What that is looking like and how you split the apple so you keep the good scientists and get the bad actors out.
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya
Yeah, so, I mean, so just to set context for this, John, for the last several decades, the US has had a close collaboration with Chinese scientists. So many of the top biomedical research scientists in China were trained in the United States. I mean, I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that the US Funded the rise in the Chinese biomedical research enterprise. And some of that involved essentially the Chinese authorities taking advantage of that investment. There are stories of foreign influence.
Congressman Rick Crawford
In.
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya
Universities going back now a couple of decades. I mean, I still think back to the Chinese scientist. I think his name was Charles Lieber at Harvard that was identified and Harvard got slapped down. In fact, I think he was put under a criminal investigation as a result of it. And so I think it's a real problem. But also, as you say, John, it's also the case that there's a lot of innocent researchers from, from, from, from, from China that have participated. Again, we're working on a policy that tries to distinguish that. I think as a general matter, having the United States invest more in American scientists makes the most sense to me. And so I think we're like trying to do this sort of all of the above thing where we're, we're both trying to address the challenge that you just identified while at the same time investing more in American scientists. Foreign collaboration is going to be an important part of science. I mean, it's just impossible not to have that kind of foreign collaboration. So many scientific ideas come from that kind of collaboration. But we need safeguards that make sure that the American investments don't result in threats and harms to America. And I think a lot of the investments we made in China and other countries are concerned. In retrospect, probably there should have been much better safeguards in place. And we're working very hard to put those safeguards in place to allow there to be continuing foreign collaboration in countries where there are countries of concern so that we make sure that, for instance, another Wuhan situation never comes about where the NIH funds research. And then we can't go get the lab notebooks from Wuhan to see what happened there. That never going to happen under my watch. But at the same time to allow us to have American scientists collaborate with scientists in Europe and scientists in all other parts of the world for ideas that can benefit Americans.
Amanda Head
Considering the threat that China posed to us on the heels of COVID and the threat that they would pose to us in the future, are we prepared? Do we have A pandemic preparedness protocol or system. Now that is souped up more so than it was when we were dealing.
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya
With COVID Well, I think that. That. I think we still need to, like, have another conversation about that. That's still not in my. My view yet. Right in the right place for that. I mean, I think I can tell you that the appetite for lockdowns in this administration is basically zero. So I don't think we'd have the same kind of. Same kind of approach. But we do need to have a national conversation about what happened during COVID especially during the Biden administration with the vaccine mandates and all that I think is really worth a national conversation because it shouldn't just be some secret plan sitting in the government vault that you pull out if something terrible happens. As we saw during COVID every single person's life was affected in some way, mostly for the worse as a result of what happened. And so we need to have a national conversation about what we would do again in that circumstance so that it's not just, as I say, a plan that sits somewhere. But I'll tell you under my watch, I will never advocate. The NIH will not be advocating for lockdowns ever again.
Amanda Head
Good.
John Solomon
That's an important, important message. So I want to ask about a couple things that come up a lot because they were realities for a period of time, even though we were told they weren't. First is, do we have any gain of function research going on under the US Auspices or have we stopped at all?
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya
As far as the nhs, We've. We paused every single project that even is anywhere within the vicinity of something that could be gained a function. The, The. The White House is working on a policy. And, you know, I can just tell you it's a. It's. The structure of the policy will make it so that it never happens again. That the nowhere in the United States government will we invest in a project that poses a risk, risk of catastrophic harm to the American people ever again. The key difference between what the Biden administration was doing was the Biden administration had this, like, long, complicated, like, list of agents. And you have to, like, have some regulation about figuring out that what happened even before the Biden administration under, you know, Tony Fauci and this P3CO process that you talked about, essentially with almost no regulation, the projects were never assigned, assessed. The Wuhan Bat Lab experiment had a virus that was not on any list. Instead. Now what we're doing is we're saying there has to be a comprehensive risk assessment of every single project that has anywhere close to the vicinity of being dangerous gain of function. And if it's dangerous gain of function, the answer is no, you can't do it. So we're headed toward a comprehensive policy for the entire federal government where that's the case as far as the NIH is concerned. I've already implemented a policy like that where we paused dozens of grants and as soon as the new policy comes up, we'll submit them to the new independent board that's going to be looking at this. The NIH and the other parts of government that fund this research shouldn't be doing our own homework. There should be independent groups that have the responsibility to check it, but we should have the responsibility to report it. And institutions that report that do this kind of work. Researchers do this kind of work will have an obligation to report it. And if they don't, they could be severe consequences.
Amanda Head
I know that people feel so much better about the transparency at NIH and that that balance between medicine and freedom that we really did not see under former President Joe Biden. Director, thanks so much for being with us tonight.
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya
Thank you so much.
Amanda Head
Absolutely. All right, everybody, we're going to take a very quick break, but we have much more on this special coming up. On the other.
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John Solomon
Welcome back everybody to our special report, China Syndrome, Beijing's Imminent Threat, Inside Academia and Wayward Biolabs We've been talking to some pretty heavy hitters in the executive branch. The FBI director Cash Patel, the head of the NIH, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya. Now we're going to turn to Congress. I'm really excited about this next guest. I've been in Washington 40 years. I've been covering House Intelligence Committee. Sometimes they do incredible work like they did under Devin Nunes. Sometimes they do kind of mute at work. This next guest has revived the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. It's doing some of the most important intelligence oversight work in a long time. He's the chairman of that committee. He's also a member of Congress from the great state of Arkansas, Congressman Rick Crawford. Mr. Chairman, great to have you back on the show.
Congressman Rick Crawford
You bet. Thanks for having me.
John Solomon
All right. You know, and you've talked previously on the show about the grave concerns we have about China, their intentions, their aggression. When you hear these things like we saw in this last week, dozens of Chinese academics who are card carrying, China loving, America hating academics that got into our institutions or a guy that had two different biolabs, one in California, one in Nevada, also a Chinese national. Dangerous pathogens right in our suburban neighborhoods. What are we to make of what China's up to?
Congressman Rick Crawford
You know, it's a really hard problem to assess in terms of, you know, I was listening to the two interviews prior. Why would you have some illicit lab set up in a B and B except for maybe you're trying to create some sort of, you know, patient zero scenario that you might infect someone, that you might create another Covid like scenario. And I, you know, I was reassured to hear the NIH director talk about we're never going to have another lockdown. That was, that was not handled appropriately. But it doesn't necessarily mean we couldn't have an attack that might lead to some, you know, difficult circumstances for us to have to deal with. But I have no clue. I mean we have to really got to figure out, I don't know how we get in their heads and go, why would you do this? Doesn't make any sense. If you're trying to do this in an illicit way, why would you put this in a B and B? Why would you have such poor handling techniques? Why would you do it in such a slipshod way if it wasn't almost deliberately to try to maybe attract attention? Is that what this is about? Are they trying to send a message to us? And I'm not sure we're receiving a message if they are. And we need to tune in and pay close attention to what's taking place in our country as it applies to foreign actors who are exploiting our free and open society. And this requires us to double down on our CI posture which has not evolved and kept pace with these threats that continue to evolve and present challenges to us that I'm not sure we're fully prepared for.
Amanda Head
For Mr. Chairman, you know, absolutely. And I hesitate to even ask this question, how do we end up here? Because I know the obvious answer is because we had a poorest southern border and we had four years of basically unvetted immigration into this country. Was it just that we opened the door and invited them in? Is that the simple answer?
Congressman Rick Crawford
No, it goes back years. It goes back to programs like EB5 program that were essentially, the Chinese could buy citizenship for family members. Those family members are not severing ties with their CCP relatives. It's important to note that we have created this problem by this sort of erudite thinking that we can have this great sort of new world order where we don't need borders and, you know, we can just open up our doors to anybody that wants to come and make a contribution, quote, unquote, to our economy. That's, that's just, to me, that's wrongheaded. And it goes back. It's the poorest border is. Yes, that's when it was really accelerated. No question about it. But the Chinese have been exploiting our immigration system for decades. And I've had misgivings about this for a long, long time. And then also they've been really kind of practicing faux capitalism in a way that they can help fund activities against the United States. What they do, they come in here to the United States, they steal technology, whether it be national security technology or any other kind of technology, they steal it and they use that to either counterfeit a product or to use it to help develop their own and compete in the marketplace. And it gives them an unfair advantage. But it's also about their long term goal, to displace the United States as the preeminent economy, the preeminent military, the preeminent political leader globally. In every category, their stated goal is to displace the United States. And why, for the last, I don't know, 25, 30, 40 years, we have welcomed them with open arms as if they're here to improve economic outcomes for the United States. I can't imagine, you know, we've had governors in the past that say, we're going to go and we're going to set up an office in Shanghai or in Beijing and we're going to welcome Chinese investment into our state because they're convinced this is going to be good for economic development. Oh, sure, it's good for economic development, just not for U.S. economic development. It's good for the Chinese where they can come in and locate close to strategic military assets. For example, maybe close to a military base, maybe close to, I don't know, a great big steel mill. That is a high tech, cutting edge steel mill. Maybe it's their one of steel AG secrets. We've seen that happen. We have got to shut the door and make some changes in this country or it's going to get a heck of a lot worse for us because that's China's goal.
John Solomon
Yeah, so well said. And it's a wake up moment in America. We can't be laissez faire anymore about this. The lab in Las Vegas where it was located was just a short way away from a military base. You have been sounding the alarm for quite some time that there is a lot of nefarious Chinese activity around many of our military bases, whether it's land acquisitions, spying and espionage. The Biden administration seemed to have a blind eye into it. They shut down the China initiative at the FBI. Tell us how bad the infiltrations around the military bases are and why you think the Biden administration shut down some of our ISON operations.
Congressman Rick Crawford
You know, sadly it comes down to money. You know, if you've got, as I mentioned, a couple of things. One was the immigration thing. If you've got individuals that are highly placed CCP politicians in China and they want to get their children into the United States as a way to not only an entree into the United States, but now they become US Citizens. That's a pathway to citizenship. When you get a green card and they're essentially purchasing a green card, but they retain those connections with the politburo, with their families back in China. So now as a US citizen, I can go and buy property and nobody really looks any, you know, sideways about it because look, it's a US citizen making a purchase or transaction. But what they're doing is buying that land so that they can gain access to some sort of strategic asset, maybe military, it may be research, we don't know. Set that aside, go back even further and talk about the number of Chinese students that gained entry into US Universities. It's money they're paying full out of state tuition. That's what these public universities were looking at, was Bottom line, how do we cash flow and try to increase our endowments? Any number of reasons they might have welcomed Chinese students en masse, and they have done. And they're not here to study the arts or literature or whatever. They're here to gain hard tech degrees, engineering, physics, biochemistry, you name it. And it's been to our detriment. And so, yes, I'm calling out the universities. I've done it before. I've talked to university presidents and said, this has to change. You can't allow these Chinese students to come in and they'll say, okay, yeah, you're right. We probably need to scale that back. We need Congress to make a law that says we can't do it. So I go to them and I say, you've got this problem. You can fix it by not allowing them to come into your university. We're giving you an intelligence picture here. And they're saying, well, no, Congress has to make a law before we'll do it. Why? Why does it does Congress have to make a law when me as a congressman and right now, as chairman of the House Intel Committee, I'm bringing you a problem, showing you the intel picture that's a threat to the United States, and you're saying, no, you've got to make a law before we'll act on it. What does that tell you about how powerful money is to not only universities, but other institutions that are more consumed with their bottom line than they are with the security of this nation? So what took place in Las Vegas? I have no idea what the operational use for this illicit lab was, except that it's in close proximity to a population center. It's also in close proximity to a military installation of high value. I don't know if they were trying to create, as I suggested before, possibly a patient zero scenario where they can get out and create potentially an epidemic or, heaven forbid, a pandemic that makes it difficult for us to function. I don't know what their motives were, but I know that we can't continue to operate like this.
John Solomon
Mr. Chairman, you laid out something really important. China bought its way into our vulnerabilities. That's what this last 20 years have been about. They use money to buy into a better position, to make us more vulnerable. The work you're doing on your committee is so important. It's a great honor to have you on the show today. Thank you for joining us.
Congressman Rick Crawford
Thanks for having me.
John Solomon
Yeah. What a great conversation. What great work he's doing. All right, folks, folks, after the break, the group that we worked with the American Accountability foundation to do that series of stories this week that everyone's been talking about and reading about. The President even socialized one of them, the president of aaf, Tom Jones. Up next, he's going to explain all the great work they did right after these messages.
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Amanda Head
Welcome back everybody to our special report, China Syndrome, Beijing's Imminent Threat, Inside Academia and Biolabs. Now, all throughout the show tonight, we've been talking about the threat from China, specifically around their infiltration into America's universities, stealing intellectual property and much more. And we couldn't have talked about any of this in, in much detail at all without our guests tonight. They are the organization that put out this report, the great work of the American Accountability Foundation. So joining us now is the president of the American Accountability Foundation, Tom Jones. Tom, thanks so much for being with us and thank you for this report.
Tom Jones
Hey Amanda, thanks for having me on. I really appreciate it.
Amanda Head
We are happy to have you here. I want to get, I want to start with the nitty gritty. What were the parameters? I know that you guys spent a lot of time doing investigative journalism looking into these 21 people who are affiliated with universities, these researchers. How close did someone have to be to the ccp? How many, how many degrees of separation did someone have to be for it to flag their relationship?
Tom Jones
Yeah, we kind of had two Factors that we really wanted to look at here. One, the threat they posed to the United States. So what were they doing? Look, we didn't care about some journalism major or some fine arts professor. What we really cared about were people who were doing work in the United States that was in an area that was in a critical and sensitive technology. And then we have folks doing research in China who could establish their connection with the Chinese Communist Party, with the, the military research apparatus in China. There's a number of universities that the Chinese use to push folks through or with kind of prohibited institutions in China that they had done research there before they came to the United States. So we really made sure that, hey, this wasn't just some random person. This was someone who had partnered with kind of the Chinese Communist Party's infrastructure, whether it's through the party apparatus or through the pipelines that they use to promote PLA research for the People's Liberation Army. So we, you know, these are folks who are closely connected, whether they're active members of the party or part of the defense research establishment in China before they came over to our universities.
John Solomon
Yeah, huge stuff, important stuff. Earlier in the show and over the last couple of days, because we've been talking about this every night, Ron Johnson opined, and also Chairman Rick Crawford of the House Intelligence Committee just opined that what China essentially did was use money to buy their way into these universities. These universities just want money for whatever their next big initiative is is, and they're willing to trade security and access for that cash. Is it really that simple? What it looks like, why these universities? It's obvious China doesn't have our best interest. Why would a university look blindly just take their students?
Tom Jones
Yeah. So there's two problems. One, we focused a lot on the research scholars, kind of the professors, the elite researchers. And unfortunately, it does come down to money. These folks are cheaper to work at the universities than American professors and they're easy to, easier to get into the university institutions. Now, what we saw happen was once these folks get in, they stand up labs and they start hiring their friends from China. So they get a grant for research at an American university. They've got so many FTEs that are going to be funded by that research and they go take these FTEs and they hire more folks from China. So on that side, yeah, it's all about money. And unfortunately on the student side, it's all about money. Like the chairman said a few minutes ago in the last segment, these folks pay full freight. So the universities are incredibly excited about it. And they just bring these folks in now. You know, Chairman Crawford was talking about, hey, we need, you know, we need Congress to fix this. Universities are telling me, hey, Congress has got to fix this. I think our governors need to get involved. When we looked at this, we saw folks at many state universities, the guy that's on the COVID of our report, you know, posing next to a hammer and sickle flag. This guy teaches at Indiana University. Governor Brown needs to say, look, iu, Purdue, you guys cannot be bringing in Chinese professors anymore. You got to bring in US Nationals who are not a security threat into our labs. But governors can put a stop to this, whether it's Governor Abbott, whether it's Governor DeSantis, whether it's Governor Braun. This can really be stopped at the state level. That's part of what we're excited about in this report, is this is an opportunity for good governors to really put the brakes on some bad practices. Because, look, I used to work in Congress. Like, if we wait for Congress to get this right, we'll all be old and gray and dead. So some of our friends in the states can really, really step on the gas and fix this problem quickly.
Amanda Head
Yeah. All right, Tom. So it's very clear that these universities are not going to do anything until they are absolutely forced to. But for these 21 that you've identified, have you gotten any sense of. Any sense of remorse from these universities? Any sense that they're going to fire them, that they're going sanction them within their, you know, within the academic parameters that they have? Any. Any indication at all?
Tom Jones
Unfortunately, no. Right now, we're kind of in the make and see the light, you know, part of the. Part of the process, unfortunately. I think we're going to go to. Have to. Have to go to the. Make them feel the heat part of the process. And I think that's, like I said, going to have to be outside pressure. Right now, they're kind of running, taking down websites, hiding, you know, not responding to media inquiries, because I think they know they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar here. But if we don't keep up the pressure, if we don't keep the attention on the specific people, like, that's what we did differently here. This wasn't a discussion about some ephemeral threat. This was naming names and saying, you got these people at your schools who are a threat. Unless we keep up the pressure and keep our foot on the gas and keep exposing these people, the universities are just going to kind of move on. Hope we don't pay attention and keep doing the same old bad stuff that they've been doing for decades. But look, at the end of the day, this is a national security threat. The people that are coming here are coming here to get the science and technology to enrich the People's Liberation army so that when the PLA goes to war with the United States Navy and the United States army, they are better equipped than we are. And that's just unacceptable. We cannot let that happen.
Amanda Head
Yeah. Tom, I mean, thank you so much for this report and keep them coming because we have learned so much from this and something's got to change. Absolutely. Tom Jones, president of the American Accountability foundation, thanks so much for being with us tonight.
Tom Jones
Thanks so much.
Amanda Head
Absolutely. All right, everybody, we're going to stay on China for this last segment. We've got a few more items that we want to break down before we head out for the weekend.
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Amanda Head
Welcome back everybody to the last segment of the show. John something that Chairman Crawford spoke about. He when he was talking about these universities saying that you have to make a law for us to basically stop taking this money. And I thought about, you know, this, this, this frequent criticism that you hear from other countries about the United States and frankly they hate us because they ain't us, because it's not true. But they say that we're greedy. I think we are one of the most Benevolent, benevolent countries on the face of the earth. But they say that we're greedy. This, to me, this is the greed of America. It's not the American people. It's not American values. It's not our country as a whole. But you have systems like academia that absolutely are greedy.
John Solomon
Now, listen, what the chairman revealed is that these universities aren't willing to do something for the good of the country unless they're forced to do it. Money is more important than the good of the nation. And when we said we talk about America first, America first should also be each of us making sure we put our country first. But that's not what you heard. I heard some really important news tonight, though, Amanda. I thought four really big things. The ones that jumped out to me. Let's start with Cash Patel. Cash Patel said that the China initiative, which had been shut down by the Biden administration, the counterintelligence efforts to fight China is back in, in force. That's really important. A new version of it, more aggressive, more robust, I thought was a really big deal. In the second block, Dr. Jay Bhattachar told us for the first time unequivocally, all gain of function research, that dangerous research that Tony Foushee was so excited about, that is probably at the heart of the pandemic that it's been shut down. And both of those men said they were really disturbed by what chemicals were found in the two labs. The third thing that jumped out to me was Chairman Rick Crawford saying very unequivocally that he's fearful that China's intention in having that lab in Vegas and other one in California was to create a ground zero patient for another pandemic that would take down America. Pretty provocative, I think. Pretty, pretty scary stuff when you think about it. And then Cash Patel saying that his predecessor, Chris Wray, did not give the American public or Congress the truth about the earlier California lab. Those are four bombshell headlines that came out of these interviews. And there's a lot to chew on, a lot of follow up to, to, to, to go on here.
Amanda Head
Absolutely. Well, and to what Chairman Crawford said about the patient Zero scenario. I mean, that was one of the reasons that I asked the director, Jay Bhattacharya about if we were prepared for this type of scenario in the future. And he admitted, he said that's a whole nother conversation because that, that's something that we've got to improve upon. But John, I suppose I'm just grateful because we do have an administration who recognizes the threat of China And I said this earlier, we have a president who sees China as an adversary, as he should, as opposed to just, you know, competition. And we had a clip that I don't think we have time for, but Mark Carney basically refusing to identify China as a threat. And when you have these, these, these milquetoasts, these wet noodle leaders of countries, then that's what, that's how you end up with threats. Infiltrating Vegas, infiltrating California and God knows where else.
Congressman Rick Crawford
Yeah.
John Solomon
The one thing I'm grateful for tonight, the great work of Tom Jones and the American Accountability Foundation. They did such amazing work. They helped us do this reporting the last week. A great partner. And tonight you saw the impact of that reporting with major players in both Congress and the administration getting us up to speed. I think we began 8ft behind the 8 ball when Biden gave the keys to Donald Trump on this issue. We're probably a few inches behind the eight ball still, but we've made a lot of progress in the last year.
Amanda Head
Absolutely. Well, and someone who wasn't a part of tonight, but who has warned us about China repeatedly as much as you have John Peter Schweitzer talking about these young Chinese who still have familial relations growing up in this country. Yeah. Another terrifying aspect, that we're going to have birthright citizenship. That's right. All right, everybody, that's going to do it for us tonight. So you to want Monday, does your.
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Podcast: Real America’s Voice – Just the News No Noise with John Solomon and Amanda Head
Date: February 7, 2026
Special Guests: Kash Patel (FBI Director), Dr. Jay Bhattacharya (NIH Director), Congressman Rick Crawford (Chair, House Intelligence Committee), Tom Jones (President, American Accountability Foundation)
This special episode, titled "China Syndrome – Beijing's Imminent Threat: Inside Academia and Biolabs," dives deep into mounting concerns about Chinese Communist Party (CCP) infiltration and influence across American universities and biolabs. The hosts and a lineup of high-profile guests explore recent developments, government responses, and the urgent security challenges posed by Chinese academic and scientific presence in the US. The show highlights bombshell revelations, ongoing investigations, and the policy overhaul aiming to safeguard American intellectual property, national security, and public health.
"Tonight we're going to address this subject, China syndrome, Beijing's imminent threat, inside academia and biolabs." — John Solomon [01:30]
"President Trump has never forgotten Benghazi... we were able to successfully execute a foreign transfer of custody, apprehend this individual overseas." — Kash Patel [07:43]
"This FBI under this leadership has prioritized a threat against by the CCP against us. And we've taken swift action." — Kash Patel [08:55]
"A similar incident in Reedley, California from a few years ago was evidently buried by the prior administration..." — Kash Patel [09:45]
"Lights can blink whatever color they want. You have to be the Director of the FBI to know the CCP is our number one adversary..." — Kash Patel [11:55]
"We've arrested over 40% more individuals from the CCP for espionage alone last year. 40% increase in one year." — Kash Patel [11:55]
"The fact that [biolabs are] completely flying under the radar screen... we need a better system for detecting and preventing these kinds of labs from popping up..." — Dr. Jay Bhattacharya [21:40]
"It's also the case that there's a lot of innocent researchers from China... but we need safeguards that make sure that American investments don't result in threats and harms to America." — Dr. Jay Bhattacharya [25:20]
"As far as the NIH, we've paused every single project that even is anywhere within the vicinity of something that could be gain of function." — Dr. Jay Bhattacharya [28:32]
"The NIH and the other parts of government... shouldn't be doing our own homework. There should be independent groups that have the responsibility to check it." — Dr. Jay Bhattacharya [29:41]
"Money is more important than the good of the nation." — John Solomon [51:46]
"The people that are coming here are coming here to get the science and technology to enrich the People's Liberation Army... We cannot let that happen." — Tom Jones [49:21]
"If we wait for Congress to get this right, we'll all be old and gray and dead." — Tom Jones [47:50]
"America first should also be each of us making sure we put our country first." — John Solomon [51:46]
"We have a president who sees China as an adversary... as opposed to just, you know, competition." — Amanda Head [53:27]
The episode is urgent, direct, and unflinching—blending detailed investigative reporting with policy critique, and appeals for bipartisan action. The guests supply frank assessments of what they see as institutional failures and the ways in which financial incentives have undermined national security, while praising recent assertive steps taken by the current administration to confront Chinese influence. The hosts express patriotic resolve and an insistence on transparency and accountability.
If you want to understand the extent, mechanics, and risks of CCP infiltration in America—from secret biolabs to deep university networks—this episode provides a comprehensive, multi-perspective analysis. You’ll hear exclusive updates and policy shifts straight from the highest levels: law enforcement, science, Congress, and watchdog journalism. The episode concludes with a rousing call for action at all levels—federal, state, and local—suggesting the time for passive concern is over, and the US must prioritize national security over profit and convenience.