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Good evening, America, and welcome to the Wednesday edition of Just the News. No noise. I'm your host, John Solomon reporting to you as always from the Nation's capital, Washington, D.C. but tonight, all eyes are on Minnesota, just like they were in the summer of 2020. There are two reasons for that. One, the story that we broke last night on the show, which people were talking about all day today. There was $700 million in cash and luggage in the Minneapolis airport being carried her out to foreign places mostly, but by Somali couriers. That was confirmed by the Homeland Security Department today. We learned that that toast totals that were given from Minnesota just the Somali couriers were 99% more than all the cash that left. JFK International Airport declared in luggage for all the foreign destinations that people fly out of New York. It's a massive amount. It was unprecedented. The Biden administration didn't look at it at all. Now it's being investigated. After a few hours of people talking about that, we had a shooting, an officer involved, shooting in Minneapolis. An ICE agent was trying to execute his job when a woman blocked the ICE agents from doing their job. She lurched her car in an effort to get away, right at one of the officers. He shot back to save himself. He was struck by the car. Homeland Security Department is calling it an act of terrorism. I want to bring in my amazing CO Amanda Head. Amanda, we're waiting. In a few minutes, Homeland Security Secretary Christine Noem is likely to do a briefing. We'll go live to that. I want to show everybody the video footage. Guys in the control room, if you could roll the video footage here. I want to show you what went on. You can see pretty clearly that ICE agents were blocked by this woman's pickup truck. They go to her car, ask her to get out. She doesn't want to comply. She starts driving off with one of the officers. Amanda. His arm is in the door. He's actually being dragged by her. The other officer is in front of the car. He gets struck by the car as he draws his gun and fires. About six or seven different angles of this. But it is pretty clear the woman did not follow instruction, knew that she was being stopped by police officers. They have blue flashing lights on when they go arrest her. And she drives off and creates that. Not the sort of thing you're supposed to do when you're around law enforcement. Pretty clear case of it.
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Yeah. You know, you look at that defensive use of that police officer that that agent's weapon, and it's Clear that this woman, that her state of mind is not life preservation. She's obviously got this one officer with their arm in the car. So it's obvious that her state of mind is not towards keeping people alive or not harming people. And you know, of all the angles, Sean, I've seen at least four different angles of this video. What's interesting is that the most prominent one, the first one that I came out and the one that I think has gone most viral is shot by a woman. You can hear her screaming in the background at these agents. She's angry at the agent, she's saying, are you effing kidding me? And all these sorts of things. What's interesting is that she's obviously on the other side of this, but it's probably going to be her video along with others that ultimately if this officer is exonerated, that does it.
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Yeah. Well, we're really lucky. We got some great law enforcement officials to join us. At the top of the show, we're going to turn right away to former FBI Special Agent and Navy SEAL Air Marshall, one of our great experts, when we turn to anything law enforcement. Jonathan Gillian joins us now. Jonathan, good to have you on the show.
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Good to be with you, John.
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All right. You carried a badge and gun for a long time. You know the responsibilities that you have when you're supposed to use lethal force. When you look at this video footage, what's your first impression of what the ICE agent did?
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Well, first off, we've seen this tactic before, right? So that's good because there's precedence of the left or these leftists showing up using the tactic of blocking ICE with their own vehicles. But we've seen other videos where they've just allowed people to go away and drive off as soon as they go to arrest them. Well, in this circumstance, what occurred was when they went to approach that vehicle and tell the woman to, or the individual, I believe it was a woman to get out of the vehicle, she first lurched her car backwards and then forwards. Well, when it goes forwards, there's another agent that is in front of the car and the other agent that was trying to get her out of it is still holding onto the car. So basically she's using a 3,000 pound vehicle as a, as a weapon, as a lethal weapon. And she got met with equal lethal force from at least one officer that was standing in front of the vehicle. So, you know, that's the thing people have to realize. If you, if you aim a vehicle at a human, it's the same as aiming a gun at them. But if you step on the gas, it's no different than pulling the trigger. And when. When the response is. Is for the officer to shoot you, that's because they're doing the same as if you pulled the trigger of a gun. They're trying to eliminate the threat. And in this case, the imminent threat was a woman behind the wheel who was obstructing ICE operations. And then the last thing I want to say is that the people, some of the people that you see running towards the car are these protesters.
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And.
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And then another person comes out in the middle of street and starts filming right after the shooting. That's how, like, these people are out of their mind to continue to do these things after a shooting has occurred. It's the same as these people who go block semi trucks before they go into a factory and they get ran over. They're playing a deadly, deadly game. And in this case, it truly was deadly.
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Absolutely.
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Well, and Jonathan, that precedent exists not only if you aim the car at these, at these agents, but also there were so many bystanders, as you pointed out. And that matters too. If the car could have hit the officers, it also could have hit the bystanders.
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Look at the road. I mean, these vehicles could skid out at a moment's notice. And when a person is that deranged that they're behind the wheel that they would lurch at an officer, he has to take it, the entire. The totality of the circumstances into account, and that is that his life is in danger. But there's also a threat to the general public. And so this is. People just don't understand this, especially when they're going into juries, which I have a real problem with it, because you have two individuals, two attorneys who are educated at trying to convince people what they want them to believe. And then you have a jury that will see something like this and think, well, the officer should have stepped out of the way. Well, you don't know. He could have been on ice. I mean, there's sometimes there's no time to get out of way of. Out of the way of these cars. In my mind, when I saw this, I immediately said, justified shooting.
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Yeah. And no doubt, John, I want to talk to something that Trisha McLaughlin said, because when you listen to the woman who is filling it, you see how the other people act around there. There is an utter lack of respect for the rule of law among these young people. They think it's their job to interfere. They think it's their job for the woman to get away and they think it's okay for him to disrespect. Trisha McLaughlin said something a little while ago on TV saying this is what happens when you create a culture of disrespect for law enforcement. People start doing lethal things and then you have to protect yourself as an officer. That degradation of respect for the men and women of blue. The Democratic Party has to own that at this moment, don't they?
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I would think. Because the only other place they can ever point to any of the conservatives really disobeying law enforcement in this scale would be January 6th. And that's where they always point to. Right. But there's, there's really, there's not a, there's not a precedence for the right and conservatives putting themselves in front of law enforcement in this manner and obstructing justice. If they have a problem, they do what normal people do. They air it either on, on X or social media or they, they go to the courts with it. But these people have developed a system. And I don't know if you've realized this, you probably have, but this is a coordinated effort. That's why we're, this is the first time we're seeing this. So that's, that's a real problem, is that these people are that coordinated that they're wanting this to happen so that they can use this fuel.
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That's right.
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A lot of people have talked about the George Floyd riots and this being evocative of that. Democrats using this opportunity to do a lot of the, frankly, what appeared to be performative things that they did when that happened. Are you getting those, that type of sentiment coming from this?
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I don't think it's going to be this, this way this time, because I think even people in the Democrat Party right now are seeing how unrealistic a lot of these antics are by the left, especially the fact it's in Minneapolis. So listen, if they want to burn their city down again, they have enough to worry about right now. That's going to be on them. That's not going to be on the rest of the nation. The rest of the nation is not falling in line with the Mandamis and the, the, you know, the walls and the rest of these weirdos. And they really are. I'm saying that from a clinical standpoint, they are odd individuals that believe in things that have no value except for their narcissistic, altruistic Personas. That's it.
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Yeah, yeah. They're living in the fantasy world that's really what they're doing. Before we let you go, Jonathan, what will be the next step for law enforcement? If locals tried to investigate this as a local shooting and the federal government declares that it's supreme in this, this was a federal law enforcement matter. What's likely to play out in the legal system on this?
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Well, this is where it does get sticky, because I know in New York, where, for instance, where I was at, if you're in a shooting, they immediately call that, they consider that a homicide. And, and you're going to go in front of the prosecutor at that point. So, so, so the reality here is there's going to be a wrestling match between the state and the feds at this point. But what I would hope that the feds do is jump behind this individual and then use this as a precedent to, to increase their tactics and their operational capabilities on the ground. This is exactly why they do the things they do, like wear the mask and do all these things, because these people are that crazy. And, and so I hope the federal government and Kristi Noem and President Trump use this as fire for their fuel or fuel for their fire to do what they need to do.
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Professional, by the way, John, that's what you're seeing.
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And by the way, one thing, that woman who gave her life today for some ridiculous cause will be forgotten in a week. So these people need to realize their, their legacy is no more than the dirt that you drop on the ground when you dust your shoes off. It doesn't mean anything.
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You're right. They'll move on tomorrow because it's not about the people. It's amazing. It's what anarchy is all about. Jonathan, thank you for joining us at the top of the show on short notice. We always appreciate your great legal analysis, your great security analysis. It's a great treasure to have you on the show.
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Thank you all.
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Thanks, my friend. All right, folks, quick commercial break. We're keeping an eye on Christine. When we come back, Al Quaido, a man who served his country for decades as a border agent and as a representative for border agents at the union. He'll give us his thoughts right after these messages. Hey, folks, you might be wondering when's the right time to start adding collagen to my diet? How about today? Collagen production starts to dwindle in your 20s and by the time you hit your 50s, like me, it's decreased and it contributes to wrinkles, sagging skin and joint discomfort. Now, NATOPATH collagen can help. It's packed with only type 1 and 3 collagen fibers, the ones your body needs most for healthy joints, for healthy skin, bones, hair, nails and also believe it or not, your gut. Plus it's third party tested for purity and with no fillers, no additives and no artificial junk, that's important to me. Two scoops a day of native path delivers 18 grams of protein. Mix it into your coffee, your tea, your soup or any drink. It's completely flavorless and easy to use. Right now you can get a special bundle deal at the fraction of the retail price. Plus you're going to get free shipping available@getnativepath.com justnews that's getnativepath.com justnews with over 4 million jars sold, thousands of 5 star reviews in 365 day money back gift guarantee. This is your moment to take control of aging before symptoms get worse. So go to getnatapath.com justnews right now supplies are limited and demand is surging. That's getnatapath.com justnews.
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Welcome back. As we talked about at the top of the show, the ICE involved shooting in Minneapolis. It's be to going kicked off a firestorm in politics and in the national media. DHS officials like Secretary Kristi Noem have categorized the incident as an act of domestic terror. And then embattled Minnesota Governor Tim Walz has said that it's propaganda put out by Homeland Security. That's interesting because there's a video out there for all of us to see. But we've also seen Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey ratchet up tensions by calling for ICE to get the F out of Minneapolis. My goodness. Just not used to seeing politicians talk like that. But anyway, for this kind of story, we need to cut through the politics. So joining us now to give us his thoughts on what happened is border security advisor for FAIR and 21 year veteran of the US Border Patrol, Art Del Cueto. Art, great to see you again.
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Thank you. Amanda, John, I appreciate you guys having me.
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Absolutely. All right. As someone who as you just told us responded to 90% of the shootings in the Tucson sector, when you we've looked at these videos, we've seen a number of different angles. And and to my mind's eye, I'm a layperson. But I look at it and I think, well, this looks completely justified. But as you are looking at these camera angles, is there anything at all that you, that you see that you think this might be tricky in court? Anything at all?
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I don't. But the tricky Part is going to be that a lot of people start to jump on and trying to get kudos for their politics and everything else that their agenda that they want to push forward. So look, something, an incident like this, it's going to be seen by the Office of Inspector General. It's going to be different entities after that within CBP that's going to look at it, probably their sector investigation team, internal affairs will get involved and once that is cleared and I don't see any, any wrongdoing, look, the individual that came after them, this is what they need to prove. Did they have the means, did they have the intent and did they have the opportunity? And I think all those three things have been met when they were attacking a federal agent. Now after that though, this is where it gets tricky. It does get looked at by state and local authorities. Now I don't have the greatest of thought process when it comes to what they're going to do or what they're going to say. However, knowing their political leanings, they're now going to be able to indict. They're going to be able to say, hey, there's enough evidence there to form a bigger case. And then you don't know how long that case is going to sit on their desk. That's part of the problem. So in a situation like this, it could very well put this agent in what we call the rubber gun squad, which means he'll be sitting there waiting for local authorities to finish their case and that whole time he won't be out in the field. So this could be a very worn out and long process. Still, that's the problem.
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Yeah, and that officer gets sidelined for just protecting himself is tragic in itself. Art, I want to turn to the culture that we see on this video tape. You see these young people who think it's their job to impede law enforcement, to disregard law enforcement, to drive off with one law enforcement officer's arm in their car and the other one in front of her bumper and he hits, she hits him and it doesn't. And there's another person filming it suggesting that maybe it's the officers who are to blame when the perpetrator, the criminal is the one behind that wheel. How did we get to this culture and who should be responsible for creating a generation of Americans that disregard law order and lawmen?
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Honestly, I hate to say it, but irresponsible voters and irresponsible politicians that ran in their positions that they're at now, they have spread this hate and this rhetoric I saw it here in Tucson just recently during the no More Kings event that they had. You had politicians that were up there speaking and saying, don't give up, resist. I have all those videos on my social media where they're actually calling out to people saying, don't resist. I mean, they're calling them to resist, to not give in, to not allow law enforcement pretty much to do their job. That's leadership at the cities that are doing this. I mean, we saw it today with, you know, the mayor going out there and saying, I get the F out of the city. I mean, what are you guys doing when. When they're doing so when they start doing that, they continue to empower this criminal behavior even more. They think it's okay to go up there and attack law enforcement. Unfortunately, somebody lost their life today. That person. Look, you don't get to reset the computer. You don't get to reset the video game. When that happens, that light switch turns off. It's never turning back on. And I think the rhetoric by these politicians is what has caused what's going on in America today. But at the same time, there's a lot of law enforcement out there. And I talk to Border Patrol agents and ICE agents all the time. They're all my friends. They're all my heroes, and they still. They called me. All of these riots and all these acts of rebellion that have been happening in all these other cities where Border Patrol and ICE have gone, it could have caused this as well. I mean, I don't know how it didn't, but it caused that because they surround agents, they throw projectiles agents. They have. They've attacked agents and law enforcement, local law enforcement, albeit because of their own leadership. They just stand around and watch. They don't do anything about it.
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They.
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They just. And they say. And then when you call them and you ask them to do something, they say, it's not a criminal matter. It's an immigration matter. When you attack a law enforcement officer, that is a criminal matter and should be, you should be arrested. Today, a law enforcement officer defended his life from somebody that was attempting to murder him. That is what happened in Minnesota.
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Well, unless we forget, barely two months ago, two National Guardsmen shot here in Washington, D.C. and one killed. It's terrifying to see this, and the rhetoric is definitely to blame, but we wouldn't even be in this situation to begin with if there were not sanctuary cities. And if you had America's mayors complying with federal law and coordinating with DHS and with Border Patrol and with ice on getting people who have broken the law out of this country. It boils down to that.
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Absolutely. And look, it goes further beyond just the sanctuary city policies. There's cities out there and there's leadership in cities and in police departments and heck, even some sheriffs. I'll tell you, there's a couple of sheriffs down here in Arizona that I have no business being in law enforcement. Even sheriffs have gone out there and they've spread this rhetoric more and more so and they've empowered this criminal behavior. That is why we're seeing what we're seeing today.
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All right. We see the secretary of Homeland Security coming out to do a news conference. Art, as always, we love your insights. We love the courage you showed on the front lines of this extraordinary moment in history. Thanks for joining us. We're going to turn to the secretary right now.
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By addressing the loss of life that we saw here in Minneapolis today. Any loss of life is a tragedy, and I think all of us can agree that in this situation it was preventable. I've spoken to the president today on the situation here on the ground. I also just got off the phone a little while ago with Governor Walz and spoke to him as well. I want to reiterate first with all of you the facts of what happened today. At 10:25am Central Time, immigration and Customs Enforcement were carrying out lawful operations here in Minneapolis because of the adverse weather that Minneapolis has seen in recent snow. One of the vehicles became stuck and ensnared in the snow. Law enforcement were attempting to push out this vehicle. And when a mob of agitators that were harassing them all day began blocking them in, shouting at them and impeding law enforcement operations, ICE officers and agents approached the vehicle of the individual in question, who was blocking the officers in with her vehicle. And she had been stalking an impedance their work all throughout the day. ICE agents repeatedly ordered her to get out of the car and to stop instructing obstructing law enforcement, but she refused to obey their commands. She then proceeded to weaponize her vehicle and she attempted to run a law enforcement officer over. This appears as an attempt to kill or to cause bodily harm to agents, an act of domestic terrorism. The ICE officer, fearing for his life and the other officers around him and the safety of the public, fired defensive shots. He used his training to save his own life and that of his colleagues. He was treated at a local hospital, has been released and is now with family. I encourage the American people at this point in time to pray for him but also to pray for the deceased's family and her loved ones. Today alone in this country, there have been four different divisions domestic terrorist attacks on federal officers by the ramming of vehicles. Three of them happened here in Minneapolis. We've seen over 100 of these vehicle rammings happen in just recent weeks. And this must stop. ICE alone is facing a 1,300% increase in assaults against them and an 8,000% increase in death threats against all of them. In fact, the very same officer who was attacked, attacked today, had previously been dragged by an anti ICE rider who had rammed him with a car and drug him back in June. He sustained injuries at that time as well. And let me remind you why we're all here in this city today and why we've been here in communities across this country. And here in Minneapolis, we're just enforcing the laws that we have in this country. For years under President Biden, tens of millions of of dangerous criminal illegal aliens, terrorists and suspected terrorists were allowed to invade our country over our southern border. They were allowed to steal, to defraud and to perpetuate violence against American citizens. Regardless of who your mayor or who your governor is, President Trump promised every single American that he would make America safe again. He promised every single American that he would work to protect them from dangerous crime. Since Governor Walz has been in charge of Minnesota, we have seen homicides go up by over 50%. That's also during Mayor Fry's tenure as well. Since President Trump took office, Governor Walz has released over 470 violent criminals back onto the streets here in Minneapolis. He has another 680 of them still within his jurisdiction that he could give to us today to face the consequences of for their crimes. Because Governor Walz and Mayor Fry refused to protect Minnesotans and instead they protect these criminals. That's why we are here. And we didn't just show up yesterday. We've always been here. But we're surging operations because of the dangerous situation we see in this country. Because we're no longer going to allow illegal criminals to damage and harm, to kill, to sexually abuse, to proliferate drugs, drugs and to steal American taxpayers dollars. This state has faced unprecedented immigration fraud, it seemed unprecedented benefit fraud. Individuals were allowed to come into this country and set up fake companies and fake nonprofits and divert billions of dollars away from American citizens and those vulnerable citizens who truly needed the services from those programs. This city has burned before and your mayor and your governor let it happen. President Trump is not going to let that happen. He and our federal law enforcement officers are here to bring peace and to bring public safety and to ensure that criminal activity is stopped and that people who perpetuate it will face consequences. Since we have been here in recent weeks, we have arrested over 1500 criminals off of the streets. Our law enforcement has arrested murderers, known and suspected terrorists, child pedophiles and other brutal criminals that were protected here in this city. We should all work together to protect our citizens. We should all protect the men and the women and the families who live here in Minneapolis, who live in Minnesota and live throughout this entire country. I want to thank you for being here and I want to thank you for focusing on the important work that our federal officers do and make sure that we're focused on the priorities of this country and that's making sure that we're keeping people safe. With that, I'll take any questions that you may have. Secretary no, Mayor Fry called the claims of self defense bs.
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How do you respond to that?
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I say that he doesn't know what he's talking about. It's very clear that this individual was harassing and impeding law enforcement operations. Our officer followed his training, did exactly what he's been taught to do in that situation, and took actions to defend himself and defend his fellow law enforcement officers.
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Secretary, can you expand to on the agent's injuries?
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The President said that he the officer was hit by the vehicle. She hit him. He went to the hospital. A doctor did treat him. He has been released, but he's going to spend some time with his family. I can't. But the FBI will continue the investigation and release more facts when it's appropriate. No, we're following the standard protocol procedures we do in situations like this. When there's an officer involved shooting, we make sure that we get the facts and that we are getting the statements from everybody involved and make sure that investigators are handling the decisions.
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Paused because of what happened today?
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No, we're still out on the streets doing our work to get dangerous criminals off of the streets of Minneapolis.
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Can you tell any insight into your conversation with the governor?
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You know, Tim and I have known each other for years. We served in Congress together. We both ran for governor the same year and have served as governor at the same times. So. So we were colleagues and we discussed what happened here today. We have two very different viewpoints of it. I talked specifically about the fact that we have laws. They need to be enforced. I he knows that I believe sanctuary policies have protected criminals and placed a priority of them over the citizens that live here, and he knows we'll continue to do our work. And I encouraged him to work with us. We've never had a cooperative arrangement with law enforcement here. Whenever we've done investigations, whenever we've done police work, when we've been doing what we can to bring people to justice for the crimes that they commit, we haven't had the cooperation of the state of Minnesota or the city police here under the mayor's direction. If you talk to any of these federal law enforcement officers, they'll say that when they call for backup in a situation, that it's hit and miss. They were grateful today that the police chief and local law enforcement showed up at the scene and helped secure it to make sure that nobody was harmed and that the FBI could do their work. But I would encourage them to work with us, that we could form a partnership that would make sure that individuals have the opportunity to have a safe Minneapolis over here. You know, it's clearly established law that a WEP vehicle driven by a person and used to harm someone is a deadly weapon. Deadly force is perfectly lawful when a threat is faced by a weapon. So I do believe that this officer used his training in this situation, and we'll let the FBI continue the investigation to get it resolved.
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So just be clear, the shooting happened.
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Before or after the vehicle? I know you keep asking that, but that doesn't mean that the FBI is going to give you an answer today. There will be an investigation. We want to make sure that it's factual. What I would ask is that as we go forward from here today, that we all remember that our job is to have peaceful discussions. I'd encourage our local law enforcement and state law enforcement to work with us. We are going to continue to operate here in Minneapolis and in the state of Minnesota to make sure we're going after dangerous criminals. One of the key focuses that we've had here is a focus on individuals who are sexual predators and are involved in child exploitation. When I was just here yesterday, we arrested individuals who were charged with criminal assault and sexual assault and people that exploited children. Why would you want to keep them on your streets? President Trump has promised to go after the worst of the worst, and that's exactly what we're doing in Minneapolis. By not working with us, Governor Walz and Mayor Fry are putting those criminals and prioritizing them over our children and our grandchildren. Governor Mulls said that he is not. That's simply not true. He said that to me on the phone, too, so I'll get him the documentation. Or documentation that he needs so that he knows that we would love to coordinate with him. He doesn't give us access to any information on criminals, let us know who he's detained, doesn't honor our detainers and has individuals and criminals in his jurisdiction that he won't turn over us today too? Yes.
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Can you explain the difference between that instance and today?
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Was a firearm discharge then? If not, what was the difference? I won't speak to that case right now, but we can get you the details and the information on that. But the facts of the matter is he's an experienced officer. He's been in situations like this before and he certainly has been out there and followed his training. Today. Given the threat of vehicle encounters, are you going to change the way things, you know, people need to stop using their vehicles as weapons. This domestic act of terrorism to use your vehicle to try to kill law enforcement officers is going to stop. And I'm asking the Department of Justice to prosecute it as domestic terrorism because it's clear that it's being coordinated. People are being trained and told how to use their vehicles to impede law enforcement operations and then to run over anybody who gets in their way while they go out there and try to disrupt peace and public safety. And Americans deserve better. That hasn't been a part of the discussion. I know Governor Walz mentioned some of that earlier in his press conference. But we've got law enforcement officers here that will continue to work and work. We're hopeful that the public recognizes that the work that we do every day makes America safe again.
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Can you give us into the operation.
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That was happening at 34 1? We had law enforcement officers that were out there doing an enforcement action and a vehicle got stuck in the snow. And so they had called for other people to come and help them get that vehicle out. Those officers were trying to free the vehicle when the harassment started. When the protesters were out there impeding their vehicles and preventing them from leaving the scene. I won't speak to that person maybe committed that you were going after sexual body camera. I will let the FBI decide. Were they on target today when they.
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Were in that neighborhood?
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They were returning back to headquarters, I believe, to start a new operation. Had just completed one. Well, thank you. What's that? I was one of the vehicles that ICE officers were using. But remember, when we operate, we operate in a task force model. So we have other federal agencies that work with us and we're very grateful for that. We have CBP officers, the FBI, dea, atf, all of those all work with us every day in a task force model. We appreciate. We'd love to have the state police and we'd also love to have the Minneapolis police chief and his team be alongside of us while we're out there doing those enforcement operations. With that, we'll get you more information as it is revealed. But thank you. And everybody, let's work together to make sure that we can continue to help the city be safer, get more criminals off the streets, and ensure that our public has the opportunity to pursue the American dream in a city they can be proud of. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it.
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All right, folks, you've been listening and watching Homeland Security Secretary Christy Doem give us an update on that shooting today. Very clear what she said. The officer's life was threatened. He followed his training. He fired his weapon as he was being struck by a vehicle that could have killed him, gave all signals and said the FBI make the final determination, but certainly defended that officer. Two other very profound things she said. Five years ago, this city burned to the ground, meaning Minneapolis. President Trump is committed to not letting that happen again. I think that was a warning to the protesters and any local politicians who want to use this moment to create mayhem in that city. She made clear there'll be a very robust federal response. And then third, she said that the people who trained this woman who are part of the caravans that are harassing ICE agents, that they have been asked, they've asked the Justice Department to investigate them as conspirators in creating obstruction of law enforcement. Which means that some of these antifa like or protest like groups could face culpability for what this woman did. That this could be an overt act of a conspiracy. Want to bring in my co host Amanda had pretty straightforward, no nonsense press conference.
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Yeah, well, and something that adds to what she was saying about these folks who are trained and caravanning from place to place. A lot of folks noticed that in that video. This woman had a lot of Kansas City stickers on her car. And they also have identified her allegedly. She is white woman, looks to be lesbian. She is a US citizen. Her name is Renee Good, 37 years old by the looks of her Instagram profile. Her social media, she is not surprisingly liberal. So fits the profile, but also fits the profile of what the secretary was saying, which is people who are traveling to do this. And something that struck me too, when they were talking, yeah. When they were talking about what led up to this, it was not, it was not even ICE agents carrying out an arrest Or a raid. They were trying to liberate a vehicle from the snow when the harassment from the other side began.
C
Yeah, you know what? Our good friend Art Dakota, he stayed through that press conference, and he's going to rejoin us right now. Art, we want to get your top line thoughts. I heard a lot of things from Secretary Noem that sounded just like what you were saying before she came on. Your early thoughts on.
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I sent her the notes. I sent her my notes real quick. That's what it was. No, no, no. All kidding aside, look, I am very happy of what I just heard, and I'm going to tell you why. Because in my entire time of being a federal agent, border patrol on the line, I had never seen a. Anyone within leadership actually come out like this, give a press conference and be so thorough and explain, this is what's gonna happen. This is what's going on. These are the facts of the case. And she was also very, very smart and said, look, I can't tell you everything. The FBI is investigating it. I know you want that answer, but you're not gonna get it because it's still under investigation. She did a fantastic job. But one of the things that we. That I noticed, that I think everyone should notice until take note, is she took the time and she spoke about this city being safe and about it being safe for the people that live there and making sure that criminals were off the streets. But then you turn around and you look at the leadership from the city, and their press conference was about hate. It was about attacking law enforcement. It was about resisting against the rule of law. It was about, you know, dropping F bombs and not welcoming law enforcement into their city.
F
What.
A
What a difference it is between the two sides. One is just full of hate and doesn't understand that their rhetoric is going to be even more dangerous. And then you have the other side, which with Kristi Noem, where she's saying she wants things to be done right, she wants safe, she wants rule of law. I think that's a big take that the American public should look into. What side do you want to be on? Do you want to be on the safe side that wants to make sure criminals are off the streets, or do you want to be on the side that, you know, wants to just continue the chaos?
C
Yeah, those statistics she rattled off are really interesting. 1500 people that they got off the street, that Tim Waltz had left on the street, Joe Biden had put on the street, and then yesterday, the child predators that they got off the street, and then she Mentioned, I think, was 680 people that Tim Waltz has in his possession. Criminals that are in the custody. They won't turn them over to federal authorities, even though they're facing federal charges. I thought it was pretty effective moment to remind people the toll that Democrats have inflicted on this city.
D
Yeah, I mean, those numbers are exactly why we are having this conversation. And, Art, I'm concerned. By the way, thank you for giving her those notes. I guess it's not Cliff's notes anymore. It's Art's notes. Art, I want to ask you about what happens if Tim Walls calls in the Minnesota National Guard and then you have this possible confrontation between National Guard and then federal agents at DHS or ICE or.
B
Or Border Patrol.
D
What happens then?
A
I'd hate to think what's going to happen, Amanda. Honestly, that. That is a question that I don't even want to. Want to sit down and even. Even think of. I would hope that, you know, cooler heads prevail and people understand that you have law enforcement out there. They're trying to do their job. They're arresting criminals off the streets. What are you bringing National Guard in? First and foremost, that. That just doesn't make any sense. But when you hear his speech and you hear him talk about how, hey, they're armed, that's exactly what he said. These are our National Guard, and they will be armed. To me, I mean, that is just the most irresponsible behavior that you can think of. That is, frankly, that is treason against the American public. That is treason against the federal government. That is treason against federal agents that are out there working. And I hope somebody out there looks at his words and finds a way to. To not only stop him, but possibly charge him for the words that he's saying. Trying to provoke violence and attacks on federal agents.
C
All soldiers ultimately report to the commander in chief. If the president needed to, he could nationalize or federalize the National Guard and remove them from Tim Waltz. That obviously would end up in the courts, but I guess that's one option we might watch for. Right?
A
Right. Absolutely. But look, why are we. Where we're at is because we've allowed the protesters to go and surround agents. And, you know, we had this horrific incident today where somebody lost their life. We can't just sit there and say, well, let's wait. I think at this point, we need to have the courts involved immediately. And all threats should be taken serious, regardless of who the person is that's making those threats. In this case, it would be the governor.
D
Yeah. 1 I mean, obviously, Art, so often you find that Republicans and conservatives in this country, they are the thin blue line folks. They. They are the ones who stand with ICE agents and anyone who protects the American people in the form of law and order. Unfortunately, they have to take some blame for this. People who support law enforcement have to take some blame for this. Because a lot of folks, including Republicans on Capitol Hill, allowed this to happen. They allowed it to happen with George Floyd, they allowed it to happen with Michael Brown. They allowed it to happen over and over and over again. And ultimately, we're here in this exact situation that John talked about where kids have absolutely no respect to for law enforcement. And it's not like Jacob Fry or Tim Walls or whoever throwing curse words out there is going to engender respect towards them.
B
It's just going to fuel it.
A
Absolutely. Look, you're hitting the nail on the head. We got to point the finger where the fingers need to be pointed. And you're absolutely right. There's a lot of individuals in leadership within law enforcement that have failed to do their job. I've seen the rhetoric. I've heard them, you know, the slap in the face only. I mean, the slap in the hand only goes so far. You have to have real consequences for the crimes that are being committed. And when I've spoken to border patrol agents, hsi, ICE agents that have gone into a lot of these cities, like Los Angeles, like Chicago, and they've had, you know, a lot of the people there that have attacked them, that have stopped the vehicles that have thrown, and when you're getting a fine for attacking a law enforcement officer, well, you know, these kids don't care. You're just getting a fine that's not a real consequence. And then when you have their leadership of the city telling them, go out there and fight, go out there and resist, they know that at the end, the prosecution is going to fall at the hands of that leadership, and that leadership isn't going to do anything about it. We need to start really making sure that there's real consequences for the crimes, and we need to start now. And you're right, we've got to call them out. Regardless of whether they're on the left or the right. We need to start calling these people out, and everyone needs to do their job. And part of that job is making sure that there's real consequences for criminal behavior.
D
Art del Cueto, 21 years of expertise here with us tonight. Thank you so much. Good to see you.
A
Thank you, guys.
C
Public servant.
D
Absolutely. All right, everybody. We are still going to talk about this on the other side because I have a feeling, John, I was just seeing a tweet that the street where this happened is all full of protesters. The sun is starting to set. So I'm very concerned about what's going to happen overnight. So we're going to stay on this, but we'll be back on the other side.
C
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B
You asked everybody you know.
C
This show likes to celebrate great journalists and on the ground the last few days in Minnesota chronicling not only the Somali fraud scheme but also the unrest. The insanity of some of its leadership has been investigative journalist Nick Sorter. You see his work on X all day. I follow him minute by minute. He does some extraordinary impactful work. And today, like every day, he was one of the first guys to get some of the video footage of that shooting and also the reaction on the ground. He's joining us live from Minnesota in Minneapolis right now. Nick, good to have you on. Congratulations on all the great work you're doing, sir.
F
Appreciate you having me on, John. And it's as you know, during these things, I mean we just took a few we weird a thing or two from 2020. I guess we'll say we'll use that word out here in Minnesota that once the sun goes down it is beyond dangerous out here. And you're not going to get any help from the Minneapolis police in particular. I mean, they have been neutered and gutted since the 2020 riots. And keep in mind, the mayor is still the same mayor from back then. So until I can get a team out here to go around with me, I'm going to have to do a lot of these hits from inside a car several miles from where stuff is going down. And that really sucks to say. It's just like you feel like you're in a. Some sort of banana republic where you're in danger just for existing out here. I'm just a dude. I'm just a guy on Twitter. Come on, guys.
C
It's amazing. What is the mood as sundown came down? This is a city notorious for its protests at night. What was the mood as the sun was going down? What's the expectation of what could unfold or not unfold tonight?
F
Yeah, well, so there are some protests planned downtown at the federal building. Right. And you see how that went last time as well, in multiple cities across the United States where they'll burn down the federal courthouses. They've already. Earlier today, about an hour and a half ago down here, they decided they were going to start breaking windows at the federal courthouse down here. So it's not like they're not willing to do so. They're not afraid to. To do so. And. And that's the terrifying part about it, is like, does the federal government, do they have the manpower here to be able to hold that place down and to protect it? Right now you see hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of these people on the street, that residential street where this woman tried to mow down an ICE agent earlier today. And what they're going to do after that is anybody's guess, because the sun has just now set and they're having a vigil. But this is a vigil full of inherently violent people that's been infiltrated also by antifa. So it's anybody's guess what could possibly happen at this point. And the Minneapolis police have totally withdrawn from the area.
D
So, yeah, Nick, I look at some of the organizational influences that came from, you know, Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown and George Floyd, and obviously, Black Lives Matter stands at the top of a lot of those organizations. But Black Lives Matter has been neutered, thankfully. A lot of a lot has been exposed about their funding.
B
Who.
D
Who is going to throw their might behind any organized protests that take place from now on?
F
Oh, geez. I mean, you see that it's going to be the normal funders. You got Neville Singman. You've got, obviously the, the Soros crew. You've got the only thing that we lucked out on here. And I don't want to, maybe I shouldn't use that term, but what they. The person that is really upset about hearing the identity of the. The woman who was shot was Mayor Fry and Tim Waltz because she was a white woman. So they couldn't make her, you know, Georgette Floyd as easily as it could have been if it was a Hispanic woman or a black woman. And that might be the only. Only consolation. The weather out here is quite nice, relatively speaking, for Minnesota anyway. There's no wind and it is currently 43 degrees. The day that I got here, it was negative one. So this is very nice weather. I mean, you can stand outside for hours here and be okay. And that just putting everything together, it's just a recipe for a potential widespread problem.
C
Yeah, Nick, I want to ask about something we chronicled this morning and we're doing more work on today. $700 million secreted out of Minneapolis airport in suitcases. Somali couriers is what the Homeland Security Department said most of them was. They lawfully declared the money wasn't like, but the Biden administration took a blind eye. That's a million bucks a day in cash and suitcases leaving Minnesota with Somali couriers. Most times going overseas. It's 99% more money leaving Minneapolis airport and suitcases than all the money that leaves one of the busiest international airports in America and JFK or Dallas. It's 90% more than the money that leaves Seattle, where most people go for Asian trips. This seems to be another part of the puzzle that there is fraud, there's illegal immigration, and then there's a siphoning of American money out of the country through Minnesota. What do you know about it and how big a part is it of the overall story right now?
F
Well, you know, it's $700 million is a hell of a lot of money. But, you know, when you sit there and you're comparing it to the amount of other fraud that's everywhere, it's like. It's almost like small potatoes, which is a weird thing to say, but it needs to be investigated much further. And it's pretty clear where the money is coming from. It is part of the fraud. It's. It's money that was fraudulently obtained. And they say the defense as well, we legally declared it. It's like, of course you did, because you knew that nobody was going to do anything about it, that nobody was going to hold you accountable, nobody was going to investigate it. These people got away with it with ungodly amounts of money for years and years and years. So, you know, that's essentially what it is. They didn't have any fear. And the less repercussions these people face, the more brazen they get.
D
Absolutely.
C
Very true.
D
Nick, have you seen any indication that there is a presence of folks, folks who are on the other side who are supporting these operations, supporting dhs, law enforcement, police?
F
Well, absolutely. I mean, the normal people here, just your average everyday people, are absolutely in support of what ICE is doing. And keep in mind, like Minneapolis is very different than the rest of the state. So, I mean, you go some miles outside of the Beltway from Minneapolis and St. Paul and you had some of the most hardcore Trump supporters in the country. Right. So it's not all Minnesota. Just because they have a retarded governor doesn't mean that the entire state is the same way. Right. And I think that this is, there is an opportunity here, given the amount of fraud that everybody has seen. And even just the regular blue dog Democrats that are out here just do not support this guy anymore, Tim Waltz. And that's why I think that holding this guy accountable is the probably the majority opinion out here. So I don't know, I think that I'd like to see that. You'd like to see that. And a lot of people, the residents in Minnesota that have been screwed over royally and pay some of the highest taxes in the country because of this guy and he just lets it get stolen. Now they want retribution. Now.
C
One of the most important headlines from Kristi Noem's just completed news conference was the revelation that she's asked the Justice Department to investigate the organizers of today's protests as conspirators in the death that occurred during that traffic incident. An officer was going to be rammed. She said they're trained to do it this way. That may be the first time in a long time that I've heard someone say something common sense sense about how you deal with these protesters, which is they're a racketeering operation and we're going to charge them as conspirators. How important would that be for the federal government to make that case early and often?
F
Oh my gosh. I mean, it would be. That's how you cut off the funding at this. That's how you got to scare these people into not writing these massive checks like George Soros. Can sit here and fund all this all day long and he feels like he's untouchable.
E
Right.
F
We have to show these people that they are not untouchable. They know what they're funding. They're trying to have this. Some sort of plausible deniability type stuff where the. Well, you know, this is what we were intending to fund. Okay? So either you are lying or you're just. Maybe you're even more retarded than Tim Waltz is. You know, it's like you can't just bleed ignorance every single time that your money ends up being used in a manner like this to fund these people. I don't quite know where the woman was from yet, but she had a. A Missouri played on the vehicle. We know that she. Kristi Noem has told us now that she had been actively impeding and blocking and. And they were trying to. What they were trying to do was make a traffic stop on her and pull her out of the vehicle as you do on a traffic stop where somebody is acting hostile. And then she decided that the next move was to kill the agent. And as Noem said, this is. People are being trained to do this. We don't exactly know by who yet, or at least I don't. And that seems to be something that needs to be dug into. Is the legacy media going to do it, though? Probably not.
C
Nope, that'll be our job.
D
It's up to us. Investigative journalist Nick Sorter. Nick, thank you so much for the service that you have done for this country and exposing this and so many other things. Thanks for joining us.
C
Good job, buddy.
F
Thank you, guys. Lots of respect for you.
C
Be safe out there.
B
Likewise.
D
All right, John, what's terrifying to me is to think of what it is going to take to reorient these young people's minds towards respect for law enforcement. I am afraid that the woman who lost her life today, that doesn't do it. I don't think that does it.
C
No. And I don't think the woman filming it was any help either. I mean, you just have people who are on their own showing disrespect to what makes this country great. Freedom, tolerance and respect for law and order and the rule of law. They're a lost generation. This subset of this generation does it. But then you look at what Charlie Kirk and TPSA is organized. There's a whole nother arm in the other side that don't think like these kids. They're a minority, but they're vocal and they're well organized and well funded. It'll be interesting to see if they take the first strike. I wouldn't be surprised if something happened in the next few days.
D
All right, everybody, thanks for being with us tonight.
B
We'll be back here tomorrow.
D
Have a good night.
A
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Episode Date: January 8, 2026
Network: Real America’s Voice / iHeartPodcasts
This episode centers on two major developments out of Minnesota:
The hosts, John Solomon and Amanda Head, guide listeners through the facts, video evidence, legal perspectives, political rhetoric, and community tensions. The episode features expert guests, a DHS press conference by Secretary Kristi Noem, and live on-the-ground reporting.
Incident Recap and Video Evidence
Legal and Tactical Analysis
Jonathan Gilliam (former FBI, Navy SEAL, Air Marshal):
Art Del Cueto (Border Agent, Union Rep):
Escalating rhetoric:
Amanda Head notes: “Just not used to seeing politicians talk like that.” ([13:56])
Cultural Analysis
Key Statements (Selected Quotes and Timestamps):
Policy and Political Shots Fired
Press Q&A Highlights:
Art Del Cueto (Reaction Post-Press Conference):
Potential Escalation:
Responsibility Across the Spectrum:
Investigative Journalist Nick Sorter (Live from Minneapolis):
| Segment Topic | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------------------------|--------------| | Episode theme and breaking news intro | 00:26-01:44 | | Amanda Head on viral video angle | 02:33-03:21 | | Jonathan Gilliam: Legal/tactical analysis | 03:38-09:36 | | Art Del Cueto: Law enforcement perspective | 13:56-19:42 | | Sec. Kristi Noem press conference begins | 19:57 | | Key stats, “act of terror” declaration | 21:16-23:47 | | Press Q&A, ongoing federal efforts | 25:30-31:56 | | Noem on protest organizers as conspirators | 33:00-34:10 | | Nick Sorter: On-the-ground in Minneapolis | 43:23-53:11 |
This episode provides a comprehensive, real-time window into the collision of law enforcement, protest culture, immigration policy, and political gamesmanship unfolding in Minnesota. With breaking news, legal analysis, first-responder and expert voices, a direct DHS briefing, and raw on-the-ground updates, listeners get an unfiltered and deeply opinionated look at issues surrounding law, order, and American identity.