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Just the News No Noise with John Solomon and Amanda Head, March 31st, 2026
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Brent Sadler
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Wayne Barnes
diagnosed with cancer, you crave a semblance of normalcy.
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Host John
And so work allowed me to be me. So I think it's really important that companies stay flexible. Cancer in a diagnosis can be all consuming, but it doesn't have to be.
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Host Amanda
Research shows there is a significant connection between the ability to continue to work and cancer recovery. We can make work a better place
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Host John
for healing, learn more and sign the
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Host Amanda
pledge@workingwithcancerpledge.com the advantage from the standpoint of
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Donald Trump
defense is they don't go very fast relative to a F22. That plane right over there, they go very slow. They could be also shot out of the air by, you know, high quality aircraft, which we have more than anybody ever had.
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Wayne Barnes
And there was a viral video this week, I don't know if you saw it, of army helicopters hovering near Kid
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Donald Trump
Rock's house in Nashville.
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Wayne Barnes
Did you see that?
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Donald Trump
I didn't see it, no. But I'm sure they had a good time.
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Host Amanda
Well, so the army just said the
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Wayne Barnes
crews of these helicopters have been suspended.
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Host Amanda
What do you think of that?
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Donald Trump
Well, it depends. Are they. Well, they probably shouldn't have been doing it. Yes. You're not supposed to be playing games. Right. But I take a look at it. They like Kid Rock. I like Kid Rock. Maybe they were trying to defend him. I don't know.
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Host John
Does Iran have to make a deal does Iran have to make a deal for the US to end its operation in Iran?
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Donald Trump
No.
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Host John
You've spoken.
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Donald Trump
Iran doesn't have to make a deal. No. Yeah, I've spoken to a lot of people. It's a new regime. They are much more accessible. They are right. You know, they said, we have a President for you, Mr. President, out of respect. And they said, wait a minute. You want me to answer the question? You're a fresh person. You know, we've had a lot of problems with you, haven't we? No, they don't. You ask me a question. No, they don't have to make a deal with me. When we feel that they are, for a long period of time, put into the stone ages and they won't be able to come up with a nuclear weapon, then we'll leave whether we have a deal or not irrelevant. Now, it's possible that we'll have a deal because they Want to make a deal. They want to make a deal more than I want to make a deal. But in a fairly short period of time, we'll be finished. They will not be able to do a nuclear weapon for years. And when they already, maybe in a long time from now, able to do a nuclear weapon, you'll have a president that will be like me and that he will go there and he'll knock the hell out of them again because they cannot have a nuclear weapon. They are very radicalized people. They're very sick leaderships. And I will say, though, that the leadership we're dealing with now, with the new regime, because we have a new regime. And the new regime is much better than the past deal on this.
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Congressman Mike Heridopoulos
Mr. President, the Iranian government threatened a
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Brent Sadler
bunch of US companies today in the
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Donald Trump
region, including Google, Apple. With what? What did they threaten them with? PB guns. They don't have much left to threaten. My question for you is, are you? I don't know. I mean, what are they? You made a statement. What did they threaten him with? I don't know. Tell me, how did they threaten him? All I know is that they threatened him. So what does that mean? Fair enough. He said something nasty. Is the government in touch with these companies? Are you helping to backstop them? You don't even know what the threat was. What was the threat? I haven't heard it. What was the threat? Did they say they're going to blow them up? They're going to hit him. They're not. You know what they're not going to do? They're not going to hit him with a nuclear weapon. Is it something you're concerned about, sir? No.
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Host John
Iran's RGC issues a warning that they will target 18 US technology companies if the US continues targeted assassinations of Iranian leaders beginning on April 1st. Those companies, video, Apple, Microsoft.
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Donald Trump
Most of those people are dead already. Yeah, Peter, I got one.
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Wayne Barnes
You're saying Eric posted a photo of what will be the Trump Presidential Library. It's a huge skyscraper in Miami.
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Congressman Mike Heridopoulos
Is that all a library? What else is going in?
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Donald Trump
Well, it's a library. It's a museum. Our library, it's a presidential. But I wouldn't start it till I'm out of office. I don't believe in building libraries or museums. It's really like the Barack Hussein Obama one in Chicago in not a good location. And it's a very unattractive building that's seriously late and seriously over budget. I think you're going to see a great one here and it'll Go up on time, on budget, best location in Miami. Best. They say it's the best block in Miami. And the state worked with us. No, it's going to be most likely a hotel. You know, this concept could be office, but it's most likely going to be a hotel with a beautiful building Underneath and a 747 Air Force One in the lobby, which is going to be a trick.
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Wayne Barnes
And the Supreme Court tomorrow is going to hear arguments about your executive order trying to get rid of birthright citizenship.
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Donald Trump
And I'm going.
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Wayne Barnes
You're going to go to the Supreme Court?
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Donald Trump
Think so? I do believe. Sit there and listen. Because I have listened to this argument for so long. And this is not about Chinese billionaires who are billionaires from other countries who all of a sudden have 75 children or 59 children in one case or 10 children becoming American citizens. This was about slaves. And if you take a look, slaves. We're talking about slaves from the Civil War. And if you take a look at when it was filed, all of this legislation, all of this everything having to do with birthright citizens citizenship, it was at the end of the Civil War. The reason was it had to do with the babies of slaves and the protection of the babies of slaves. It didn't have to do with the protection of multimillionaires and billionaires wanting to have their children get an American citizenship. It is the craziest thing I've ever seen. It's been so badly handled by legal people over the years. If you look at the original birthright citizenship papers, they all happened right after the Civil War. The reason was it had to do with the babies of slaves and hopefully it's going to save because our country is being scammed. We're getting all of these people, they're selling the rights to them. People are making a living, a big living, getting hundreds of thousands and even millions of dollars from bringing people in and saying, congratulations, your whole family is going to be a citizen of the United States of America. That's not what it was for. It wasn't for billionaires bringing people in or family in. It was for the children of slaves. And what you really have to do. And I don't think the lawyers talk about it as much. Look at when the Civil War ended and look at the date of. Of when this was enacted. Okay.
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Wayne Barnes
Have you ever met before?
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Host Amanda
Is this going to be the first time going to the Supreme Court?
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Donald Trump
No, I went once before the opening of the Supreme Court in the last administration.
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Wayne Barnes
And which justices will you be listening for most closely.
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Donald Trump
I love a few of them. I don't like some others. And, you know, you say what you want, but you have the ones that were appointed by Barack Hussein Obama and Biden. I don't care how good your case is, you can have the greatest case ever. They're going to rule against you. They always do. And it's not supposed to be that way. Now, the Republicans tend to be very different. They want to show how honorable they are so a man can appoint them and they can rule against him. He's so proud of it. We're so proud we ruled against Trump. We're so proud we're above it. There are those that say that's wonderful, and there are those that say they're so stupid. But the Democrats never fail at one thing. When Barack Hussein Obama or when Biden appoints somebody, they go along that line. You can have the greatest case in history. And almost, I guess I have to say almost, maybe I don't have to say it almost without fail. Those people, four of them, sometimes five of them, but four of them will vote against you. You don't have a chance. You don't have a chance. And that's not what the court system is. Now, the Republican appointees tend to go, and this has been long before me, this has been for many years. Some people would call it stupidity, some people would call it disloyal. Some people would say they're right in doing it, and I don't mind being right. But the other side almost never does it. Almost. I think you could find maybe a couple of incidents. Almost never does. When a Democrat appoints a judge, and I'm talking about judges, not just justices. You go before some of these Democrat Judges in Washington, D.C. you don't have a chance. That's why I gave pardons to hundreds of people that were so badly treated. Having to do with J6 yeah. Oh. Do you have a question? Let's go. I didn't see you over there. You've been so nice. Here we go. Now she's going to hit me with a bad one.
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Wayne Barnes
Go ahead.
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Donald Trump
On the Safe America Act, Mr. President.
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Host John
Do you still think it's going to pass? Were you signing?
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Donald Trump
I don't know. It's the craziest thing. The Democrats are totally against it again. They're unified. I think maybe you would have Fetterman, who I have a lot of respect for, but the Democrats are unified against it, and you need Democrat votes. Unless you do something smart called the filibuster. Terminate the filibuster which they should do. Republicans should do that. But there are a couple of Republicans that maybe they're not so smart because the Democrats will do it on the first day in office. Maybe the first hour. It's a question, will it be the first hour or the first day? So who can, who can believe that a person, you can't even get it to the floor that a person wouldn't vote for. Think of it. For citizenship, proof of citizenship, for voter identification. And we also added one, we added mail in ballots, mail in ballots with exceptions for the military, for people that are sick, people that are traveling, for the disabled. We have very generous exceptions, but who would believe that that would be possible not to get those things to vote for? And then we added best of Trump. We added no men and women's sports, different subject, but we added that. And we said no transgender mutilization of our children. These are all 90, 95, maybe 98 in some cases, maybe 99. In terms of. If you, Those first two, if you talk about the first two, I think, you know, I think, I think a 98, 99% voter identification. Right. Wouldn't you think? Don't you think it's nice with picture? Wouldn't you think it's nice? When the Democrats had their convention, I remember it so well, you had to have identification to get into the arena. And they had a card that was bigger than most of their chests, and it had everything. It had their picture. And if you didn't have that card, they threw you away. In New York City recently, we had a big snowstorm. Mayor Mandami had. He called out for people to shovel snow, but you had to give identification with picture. If you didn't have. And it wasn't one identification, you had to have two. So to shovel snow in New York City, you need identification double with picture. But to vote, which is maybe our most cherished thing, you don't need. They don't want voter id, the Democrats, because they want to cheat. The problem is we need their votes in order to get it. You need their votes. And look, they know their policy is so bad. They know that if they gave those votes, they might never win another election. So they're fighting like hell. They're actually fighting for their survival because their policy, the Republicans have great policy, smart policy, strong borders, low interest rates, low taxes. We just gave you the largest tax cut in history. All these great policies. You know, we want a strong military. Look at our military. We have the strongest military. Look what happened in Venezuela. It was so incredible. People said the greatest military maneuver they've ever seen. Look what's happening in Iran. We're just, I mean, we're totally unchecked. Everything's been bombed out. They have no anti aircraft protection. They have no nothing. They don't have anything. Look at our military. The Democrats don't want that. And when I read the fake New York Times, you take a look at it, it's like, oh, they're putting up a good fight. They're not putting up a fight. They're not even shooting at us, okay? We have planes. Planes are just ruling the sky. We have airplanes. Those two, those two. We have airplanes. Nice, right? Lincoln with a little modern touch. The great Benjamin Franklin with a little modern touch. But think of it. They are roaming the skies over Tehran. They're not even being shot at because their equipment's been totally decimated. They have nothing to shoot. We have. They have no navy, they have no anything. And just think about this. They have no navy, they have no military. They have known nothing. They're losing. They admit they're losing. They're begging to make a deal. And if you read the fake New York Times, a corrupt newspaper where I'm suing them and I think I should do very well, but you would almost think, who's winning? It's so fraudulent. But just to finish up with the New York Times, if you read the New York Times prior to my election victory, including the first one and the second one too, I won three times. I won three times convincingly. But let's go to the third victory. If you read the New York Times, you would say, oh, Trump's going to lose. But I won in a landslide. I won the popular vote. I won the electoral college in a massive number, right? Massive. I won the counties, 86% of the counties, I wonder all of these different things. Winning the popular vote for Republicans, pretty amazing. But if you read the New York Times for months and months and months, you were hearing, oh, Trump is doing so badly, we have to straighten out our media. The reason? Their circulation is way down. The New York Times circulation, you know, has gone way down. Washington Post is almost extinct. The papers that are being dishonest, the papers generally, people don't believe the media. And to Finish, I got 93% bad publicity. Some people say 97. But between 93 and 97, a person that gets 97% of bad stories. Maybe Caroline is doing a poor job. I don't know. She's my representative doing a terrible job. Should we keep her? I think we'll keep her. But I get 93 to 97% bad press, fake press, all fake. I won in a landslide. When you get 93 to 97 bad stories, bad press, and you win in a landslide, you know what that says? People don't believe the press. And when people don't believe the press, that's a very bad thing for our country. And when you look at, let's say, the New York Times or the Washington Post, their stories are so fake. Wall Street Journal, too, a lot of bad stories. I don't know what happened to them, but they're bad. Their circulation went way down. Wall Street Journal, I don't know if you saw the numbers that came out yesterday. New York Times, way down. Wall Street Journal, way down. Washington Post, number one, way down. Because people don't believe them anymore. And until they get. It's not the paper, it's not the. It's that they have no credibility anymore, which is a very sad thing for our country. Thank you very much, everybody. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thanks.
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Host Amanda
Welcome, everybody. You just been watching President Trump finish a news conference after he signed an executive order, an important new executive order targeting election integrity. What does that executive order do? It tries to create a national registry of eligible voters so that noncitizens and dead people and people who've left states don't still be left in a position to cast improper ballots. In every state in America, this one's going to get, I'm sure, challenged in the courts, but it is a major stride forward in President Trump's efforts to create a more common sense, reasonable election system that just, he signed that. And then he took a bunch of questions from the press, as he always does. One big headline I want to get to, he told reporters, if I heard correctly, that he's going to the United States Supreme Court tomorrow. He's going to sit in the audience, he's going to look at the nine justices as they listen to a very powerful debate about whether or not birthright citizenship for foreigners who come here have children so that their children can be US Citizens just by the fact that they were born here. Whether that is a lawful interpretation of the constitutional amendment that is derived upon. That's going to be a major case, perhaps one of the most important cases of the session. The president thinks it's so important, he told reporters he may just go there tomorrow. We'll be keeping a close eye on that. You know that all of us here at Rav Justin News will be covering that here door to door tomorrow. All right, we're going to get right to business. My amazing co host, Amanda Head, she's in California and joining us at the top of the show. He's been so patient waiting for the president to wrap up. He represents the great state of Wisconsin. He has been a clarion voice on super so many important issues that he's trying to fix, whether it's the children who cross the border without the parents and then the Biden administration lost track of or more recently addressing the epidemic of suicide. He's Congressman Glenn Grothman from the great state of Wisconsin. Sir, good to have you on the show.
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Congressman Glenn Grothman
Glad to be on the show. And it was certainly enjoyable to sit there and watch President Trump again, right?
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Donald Trump
It was.
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Congressman Glenn Grothman
They had a play of night at 10:30. He would blow away all those so called, those fake comedians they have on the other stage.
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Host Amanda
Right? You're right. Yeah. There's no doubt a lot of news in this. Two things that jumped out, the executive order clearly taking a shot at improving these dirty voter rolls that Harmeet Dhillon's been doing a great job exposing. And then two, him wanting to show up the Supreme Court tomorrow and have his face be looked at by the justices as they consider birthright citizenship. Love to get your reaction to those two things.
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Congressman Glenn Grothman
Well, it was good. It's good that President Trump is shining a light on what's going on in the Supreme Court because we all know when that amendment was passed, it was designed to make sure that slaves or children of slaves were counted as citizens. That was the whole background. There were several amendments passed at the end of the Civil War and they were all designed to address what are we going to do with the people who were formerly classified as slaves. And so President Trump is in the right here. And I think he's going to take a great deal of interest. You know, our forefathers, if you would have thought at the time that somebody could come here from France, have a baby, get back on the boat and go back to France, that was an American citizen. That would be ridiculous. Nobody would have dreamed that. So it's good President Trump is monitoring that. Your other issue there was what, the election integrity order? Yeah, the election integrity. President Trump is 100% right. The viciousness which the Democrats use not to have photo ID or not to care whether people here are citizens or not. They might as well walk around with a sign on their head, we want to cheat. I mean, why else? I have somebody works for me from Mexico. They have photo ID in Mexico. What's wrong with doing it like they do in Mexico, but here in America. No, no, no, no, no. We can't have photo id. I mean, my goodness, why, why do you object to this? In other countries they put, you know, a little dot on your hand or whatever when you vote. I mean, we are so kind of loosey goosey here in the United States. President Trump's trying to straighten it up and other people, they the only possible explanation for their position. You know, we don't want to crack down. We don't want to make sure people are citizens before they vote. The only explanation for this is they want to take advantage of a Lucy Goosey system and cheat.
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Host John
Yeah, sir.
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Host Amanda
Amazing.
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Host John
John and I have had you on the show for years and I know that you have a heart for children as evidenced by your work on Capitol Hill. So I wanted to get your take on on this case. The court struck down a Colorado law, of course, that banned what they refer to as conversion therapy for LGBTQ minors. It was an 8 to 1 decision. Only Ketanji Brown Jackson dissented. But it seems to me that this despite, despite the fact that this is a 9010 and 8020 issue, at least this is still a lingering issue. Do you think it's going to be something that is still talked about and propels votes in the midterms?
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Congressman Glenn Grothman
I'm afraid so. It is bizarre that the Democrats are so involved in ingratiating themselves to the most extreme members of the LGB community that they want to have minors. Can you imagine a 14 year old, a 15 year old having surgery that can't be turned around for life? I mean, what type of sector doctor would do that and what type of 6 state legislature would allow such things. So it should be brought up not only because we want to do what we can to help these poor people. We don't want to allow some fast talking doctor to talk them or them and their parents into lopping off body parts when you're 14 or 15 years old, that's for sure. So. And ruining people's lives. I mean, it also says that people who vote that way are so utterly lacking in common sense. You know, they listen to some stupid psychologist or stupid psychiatrist and says this is what we have to do. I would hope most Americans have more common sense, but I think particularly on your left wing, maybe college professor type people, they say, well this guy, you know, he went to college until he was 28 years old and he thinks it's okay to remove 14 year old body parts. So we have to go ahead with it. That's just ridiculous. We hope people with the common sense win out and hopefully in the elections, people remember which party is the party of common sense and which party is the party of if some guy hung around and went to college for 10 years, will do anything, no matter how stupid he wants it to be.
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Host Amanda
Yeah. Sir, you spent a lot of time forcing a conversation about issues that we often try to sweep under the rug. The effort to the fact that the Biden administration lost track of all these children who came across the border vulnerable, without their parents. The Biden administration was supposed to take care of them. You found that they were lost. You got them found. In the last year with the work of Tom Holman, you've taken on the fraudsters who steal our entitlement money and still want to stay in the country. You think they should be deported. You help get that bill passed. You took on another big issue. It's probably one of the hardest. We all have a hard time talking about mental health, the rise in depression, the rise in suicide. You had a recent roundtable. This is a really big crisis in America. It hardly talked about. Tell us what went on at that roundtable and why it's so important to get this issue front and center.
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Congressman Glenn Grothman
Well, you have to look out all of the young people who are getting powerful antidepressants. And these kids are not told that it's very difficult once you take them to get off of them. So you're having 12, 13, 14 year olds getting powerful drugs that are very, very difficult. You can't just go cold turkey and get off of these things. We heard testimony from a gal. She began to take these things when she was 14. She didn't get off them until she was 33 or 34 years old. And she was a very bright together gal. I mean, if she wasn't so bright, I can imagine people on these things forever and sometimes attempting or actually committing suicide. You take these drugs expecting to be happier and then you wind up being suicidal or kill yourself. It's just heartbreaking. We've got to stand up to the drug companies and educate these young people and their parents. Be careful before you let your kids, even 19 or 20 year olds, be careful before you let them take these powerful drugs. You know, God made your body. Don't, you know, don't take powerful drugs and change the way you think about things. That's big trouble. And like I said, I think we should look into. We didn't bring up the hearing, but I think we should look into people who some of these mass Shooters and see how many of them were on drugs of some nature. It's not natural to want to go out with a gun and kill seven or eight people in a school. I'd like to know how many of these mass shooters are on some type of medications prescribed by our out of control psychiatric profession.
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Host Amanda
Yeah.
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Host John
Devastating. Devastating topic. I'm so glad that you're having that conversation. But let's end on something a little bit lighter, something you and I share, a love for. Hunting. And as sportsmen and women, I suppose you did something up on Capitol Hill. And House Republicans did something protecting that important hobby that exists here in this country that contributes a billion dollars towards conservation every year.
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Congressman Glenn Grothman
Right, right, right. Well, very important. We always have to have opportunity for young people to use all our lands. And, you know, in some areas, the number of people go hunting is decreasing. So we have to do all we can to allow opportunities to go hunting, share a heritage our ancestors enjoyed, and teach our young people about our natural resources, which is something that we like to think we help protect.
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Host Amanda
Yeah. So important. A lot of important work. The House is getting a lot done. The Senate maybe not so much, but the House is cranking it out. Congressman, always a great honor. We always learn so much from when you come on the show. Thanks for joining us.
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Congressman Glenn Grothman
Well, thanks for having me again.
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Host Amanda
Yeah, we always enjoy the discussion, always come away smarter. So we certainly appreciate it. All right, folks, quick commercial break. When we come back, we'll discuss the situation with the Strait of Hormuz. It's as it's caused a lot of debate. It also has, I think, a big impact on how the conflict with Iran will ultimately end. We'll address that next with a great expert on this, Brent Sattler, right after these messages. Hey, America. Everybody's talking about weight loss injections because the results are so dramatic. They work by lowering blood sugar and reducing appetite. So what if you're looking to lose weight but not interested in painful weekly injections? Especially when you hear about some of those intense side effects. That's why doctors created a weight loss supplement called Lean. And the results are remarkable. The studied ingredients in Lean have been shown to lower your blood sugar, burn fat by converting it into energy, and curb your appetite in cravings so you're not as hungry. Those are the keys. But listen, lean is not for the casual dieter. With only a few pounds to lose, the doctors at Brickhouse Nutrition created Lean for frustrated diet dieters with 10 or more pounds to lose. Let's get you started with 20% off and free roast shipping so you can add Lean to your healthy diet and exercise plan. Visit take lean.com and enter just News for your promo code to get a discount. That's promicode Just News at Take Lean.
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Host John
Welcome back, everybody. Plenty to discuss regarding the Strait of Hormuz and the wider Iran war, including NATO. The alliance has been a prominent discussion because it seems that our European allies are less than enthused to help us in the conflict, even closing their airspace and military bases to the United States. President Trump and Secretary of War Pete Hegseth have even indicated that if European nations won't help, maybe there's no reason at all for us to be in NATO. So joining us now is to help break this all down. Senior research fellow for Naval Warfare and Advanced Technology at the Heritage Foundation. He's also a 26 year Navy veteran, Brent Sadler. Brent, thanks so much for being with us.
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Brent Sadler
Good evening. Thanks for having me back on.
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Host John
Absolutely. We love having you here. And as we were just discussing, you know, the strongest position to be in in a debate is the position where you are willing to walk away and either way, you win. When it comes to NATO, this is something that President Trump has talked about for decades. Even before he was president, he was opining about how maybe we don't even need to be in NATO anymore. So was that the point of all of this? All of this to begin with, with President Trump requesting their assistance, knowing that they would probably say no?
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Brent Sadler
I'm not so sure. I mean, the NATO countries still offer a lot of benefit to the United States and there's a long history there that we share and a lot of common interest. There's a lot of problems that we have. And I mean, Vice President and Secretary of State Rubio have been very pointed at actually what some of those problems are. You know, freedom of speech and how that seems to be eroding is something more fundamentally at risk of driving a wedge between our NATO partners. But this recent tip about airspace, the Spanish government's very far left socialist, no fan of America, no fan of Trump personally. But that government will change. And the common interest underneath there and the vast majority of Spaniards who have a lot more in common with us, we'll go back to a better place. It's also not the first time that they've locked us out of airspace. Happened in 1986 when we were executing retribution for a Libyan government, you know, under Gaddafi that killed several of our servicemembers in Berlin. And they shut their airspace at that time for an air raid against Tripoli.
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Host Amanda
Yeah. So we've been here before she does repeat itself. Yeah, we have done it before, you're right, Brent. I want to ask a little bit about the optionality for the strait of her moves, which seems to be the last sort of hang up in this operation which has been very successful. Iran has taken a real beaten. Option one is we go in and clear it. Option two, we avoid it and we have a US Fire sale and try to get as many of our allies to buy our own oil and gas. It seems like we might not be able to meet all demand. But an option. Option three is a negotiated settlement. What door do you think Monty hall is going to pick on this one?
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Brent Sadler
I think it's probably going to be a mix of those or probably none of them and it'll surprise us all in the outcome. I mean, still, the hope is, and the only real enduring way that American interests and American lives are safe is if a new government in Iran comes forward that's no longer a threat to its neighbors in Israel and United States. But the reality is is the strait's pretty open. The shipping is starting to pick back up. It's not that the Iranians are attacking and sinking ships in large numbers or that they have the capacity, which they don't anymore. They can still lob a missile or run a ship into the side of it. But when you have a strait that has over 100 ships before this conflict passing through there, it means they're not able to really do much to the actual volume of shipping on a normal day. And it's starting to pick up again. The attack that just happened yesterday a little over 24 hours ago actually was done by a drone. Didn't cause very much damage to the ship. These are massive ships. And oh, by the way, that was the first attack in 12 days.
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Host Amanda
Great point.
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Host John
Goodness gracious. Brent, when it comes to our European allies and their support for us and this mission, what brings the tightest squeeze that is the impetus for them to say, all right, fine, fine, fine, we'll help.
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Brent Sadler
Well, I twisted a little bit. I mean, no nation, sovereign nation, should be expected to do something that's not in their national self interest. Quite frankly, that's the way these European countries should be looking at this rather than some political cheap shots to get political points. I mean, the former prime minister, now former prime minister Denmark tried to play the same game over the commentary and the rhetoric over Greenland and she's out of office now for it. So hopefully, you know, these countries in Western Europe will kind of step back and say what's in Our best interest, I think the French are playing this game with the carrier strike group. And the Eastern Mediterranean might make its way eventually down to the Middle East. They do have a base in UAE that's been defending and helping defend uae so quietly, if they just show up and they have a presence there and they are protecting their own space, it's a net positive. Let them have that. It's certainly in alignment with our national interest, too.
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Host Amanda
Yeah, that's a great point, Brent, when you look at the dynamic that the President has set in motion. Cuba severely destabilized. Venezuela already under new management. Not perfect management, but certainly more friendly. Iran decimated and probably soon to be under new management. The big losers seem to be in the offing. The two people we don't talk about enough, China and Russia. How are they affected by this sort of triumphant of successes that the President is or triumphant of actions that the President's been taking?
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Brent Sadler
Well, we're far from out of the woods on Cuba, Venezuela, and we're still in the fight on Iran. But the key thing, the common denominator of those three is that the United States retains significant leverage over the governments there to try to compel them to do what's in America's best interest and quite frankly, even the interest of their people. We'll see how it all plays out. Venezuela is probably the best case right now, but again, it's far from done. China and Russia, I think it's really China that all of this is centered on and a grand strategic calculus. China. Before Maduro, Christmas last year, China was the beneficiary of a lot of cheap oil in terms of trade that it dictated. Now, over 20% of its oil that it imports, it's going to have to pay a fair market price greatly higher than what it did before. And oh, by the way, their foe in D.C. is the one that controls it. So a lot of strong power play made by the United States under President Trump, I think, leading up to perhaps the summit that might happen later, part of April.
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Host John
Brent, before we let you go, a few weeks ago, we were discussing how diminished the number of missiles coming out of the regime and coming out of Iran was that has picked up since then. What do you make of that? Did they, did they all of a sudden get an influx of inventory or was that a result of what? I mean, some people might consider a victory lap when they were saying, look at how diminished this is.
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Brent Sadler
Well, we do know they are getting intelligence from satellite imagery from Russia and Beijing. And so that helps them with their Limited arsenal, what's left of it, to make sure every shot counts, at least the missiles that do work. So again, the attack that they got over the weekend where they destroyed one of our electronics warfare aircraft, very expensive piece of gear, but also injured a lot of soldiers and airmen. I mean, this is what they're doing. They are holding back and waiting until it's the right time to use their weapons. They're not doing the mass fires that we saw in the first week. I think that's largely because we've degraded their capacity. But it's also, they know they're trying to string this game out as long as possible to get the best deal they can. The reality is there's nothing in the United States position on this that we should give or cede. It's the Iranians that have the losing hand, even though they still have the chance to cause damage every once in a while.
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Host John
Brent Sadler, we always love having you here. We love the wisdom that you bring. Senior research fellow for Naval Warfare and Advanced Technology over at the Heritage Foundation. Thanks for being with us, Brent.
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Brent Sadler
Thank you. Have a good night.
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Host John
You, too. All right, everybody, we're going to take a very quick break, but we'll be back on the other side.
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Host Amanda
Welcome back, America. Everybody who knows me knows I'm a giant space nut. I love space exploration. I can remember sitting on my mom's last lap watching the early Apollo missions as a young boy. My wife happened to be born on the very day man walked on the moon. Said, we have all of these incredible connections. For the first time in a half century, American astronauts are going to be headed towards the moon. NASA's Artemis 2 mission is set to carry four astronauts around the moon. They leave tomorrow. It's going to mark humanity's first crewed journey beyond low orbit Earth in more than a half century. Joining me right now to discuss all of that is Congressman Mike Heridopoulos, who's right there in the middle of all the excitement in Florida. Sir, good to have you on the show.
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Congressman Mike Heridopoulos
Well, thank you, John. Great to be on. Great to see you as well, Amanda.
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Host Amanda
Yeah, great. Great to have you on. You chair the subcommittee for space exploration. This is a big moment, a long time coming. We've been talking about getting back in the game on Moon. On the moon. Now we got a plan to go moon and then moon to Mars. How big a moment is tomorrow's liftoff?
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Congressman Mike Heridopoulos
Well, it's just absolutely huge. There's no other way to put it. America is dominant in space once again, as you know, almost Every day we launch rockets right out of Florida with whether it be SpaceX or Blue Origin. And of course NASA is taking the lead now with Artemis 2 putting astronauts around the moon for the first time since 1972 and the furthest we've ever been away from Earth. I was on campus today taking a look at the SLS rocket and of course the Orion spacecraft. We're ready to go and I think we're probably 80 plus percent chance of launching on of all days, April Fool's Day. It's going to be an exciting day at Space center and a big day for America.
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Host John
So, so exciting. And my family actually has a connection to my parents first date was watching the moon landing and watching Neil Armstrong walk on the moon. And speaking of that, speaking of the Apollo missions, you know, we have advanced so far beyond the technology of that. And I remember hearing from my parents about Mike Collins being referred to as the loneliest man in the universe because he was on the far side of the moon. Do we now have the capability with communications that we're going to be able to hear from them throughout the entire orbit, even on the far side of the moon?
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Congressman Mike Heridopoulos
I believe we will. I think that there'll be a slight knockout. But in general we are looking at new technologies and, and as you know, landing on a moon is not just hard, but it's a, it's a big deal. We're not quite there yet with the lander. SpaceX and Blue Origin are actually leading that. But what we're looking at now is actually having a moon colony so that we can eventually of course launch rockets, as John mentioned earlier, eventually going to Mars from the moon. It's a huge endeavor. And again, this is about not just going on an adventure, this is also of course, a commercial mission. And ultimately we face a threat from China. So it's a military reality as well.
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Host Amanda
Yeah, now it is. There's so many different implications for this. Obviously ingenuity on display, national security at play. There also is a potential to set a record here. Now, we're not going to set foot on the moon this time, we're going to orbit around it. But this could be the furthest we've gone into space ever in world history. Correct?
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Congressman Mike Heridopoulos
That's exactly right. As we go as a man to put to the far side, we're going to be out there so far, further than we ever been before. And again, it's a testament to the heroic efforts of these astronauts. I mean you talk about taking a mission on full force, they're doing it and we have four astronauts going there. Of course it's going to be a challenging 10 days out in space, but we're going to learn the things necessary to ultimate land on the moon hopefully by 2028. Jared Isaacman, our incredible new NASA administrator has really hit the ground running. He has a plan for us to get back to the moon and beat the Chinese with two landings potentially in 2028. Establishing a moon base because there's the potential actually launched from the moon because there is, we believe, water on the south side of the moon and that means, that means hydrogen is there, which of course is the great propellant that puts us in this space as well.
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Host John
I want to ask you, speaking of Jared Isaac, man, I know that he is leaning on some companies, private companies like Blue Origin and Space X to fulfill a lot of NASA's long term goals, one of which is putting a base on the moon. And I've heard a lot of people out there floating the idea of naming it the Donald J. Trump Moon Base. But is a moon base something militarily that you think is, is pretty soon on the horizon?
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Congressman Mike Heridopoulos
I do. As you know, even before we put astronauts there, hopefully in 2028 will be landing some cargo I believe on the moon ahead of time. So they have things to work on once they get there. We want to beat the Chinese there for the simple reason that they simply do not respect life like we do. And, and second, they don't respect the environment either. As I said, when you have water potentially on the moon as a potential energy source, we want to make sure that it's not destroyed by some of the chemical contaminants that sometimes come out of China and how they don't respect the environment. It's one of the reasons why it's so challenging to trade with them because they just don't comply with basic standards for keeping this water pure. So we want to get there first, we want establish that moon base and build upon of course our strong position already with the satellites that circle the world. And the Chinese are, they're not look out for the best interests of the United States obviously. And I don't think for the world. America is, is the land of free. And we have respected the treaty that was put back in place in the 1960s where we're as afraid that the Chinese get there first, who knows what they might do. And, and as you know, they simply don't play by the rules. So let's make sure it's America, not the Chinese setting the rule book for our New operations on the moon.
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Host Amanda
Yeah, pretty exciting. This is a big moment for Florida, your home state, which has been home to our space program from its very beginnings. But there's also a lot of new technology here. The old Apollo capsules had three astronauts, we got four this time. There's all sorts of new capabilities in this rocket system that will allow for the future building of a moon base. Tell us, what are some of the benchmarks, the key moments on this mission you're going to be watching as an oversight chairman to make sure that we're meeting our new goals for moon exploration?
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Congressman Mike Heridopoulos
Well, again, John, this is a challenging thing, as they, as we sometimes say, space is hard. There's a reason why only America has been successful in landing an astronaut on the moon. We'd have done it six times, and now we want to go to the next level. You know, it's one thing to land on the moon, it's a whole nother thing to colonize it. And so these rocket systems are central defining that success. It's again the precursor to eventually a moon landing in 2028. And we're going to be running all the systems here. Artemis 2, 3 and 4 will be setting up for that moon landing eventually. As Amanda asked about the private companies, we're relying on SpaceX and Blue Origin to establish those landers that are not ready yet. And it's going to be very different look than the lander we saw back in 1970, let alone the last lander in 1972, especially the SpaceX model, which is a much taller configuration, but it would hold a lot more cargo for us to establish the moon base more succinctly. But as Amanda asked, I think the real question is when they go to that far side, further than any astronauts been before, what communication links do we have in place? How can we make sure we're making the visual images best so when we do land in the moon, we land at the right place because the ultimate goal is, is getting down to the South Pole and make sure we establish that with American, let's just say dominance, because we want to make sure we protect that potential energy and water source in the future, which is so vital if we're really going to colonize the moon successfully and ultimately send rockets from the moon off to Mars.
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Host Amanda
Very cool, Sarah.
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Host John
Just a few years ago, we had a bit of a national drama as we were watching Suni Williams and Butch Wilmore, I think was his name stranded up in space. And Joe Biden, I think, unfairly got blamed for that. But for President Trump, this, this is a notch for him. This is a success for his administration, isn't it?
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Congressman Mike Heridopoulos
I really believe so. Remember, the President's all in on this one, Amanda. I mean, he created the Space Force. I mean, he is all in. And remember, he's the one who put the largest funding ever for NASA. We not only maxed out the budget this year at over 24 billion, but we added almost $10 billion in the big bill back in July. And so he's putting his money where his mouth is. The Congress is supporting that endeavor. And we know we can't be number one on Earth if we're number two in space. And the President even went so far as of course, mentioning space in his inaugural address. The first President to do so since Ronald Reagan. And so we're optimistic about what we can accomplish here. And remember, the new technologies that will come for landing on the moon and sustaining life on the moon is going to help our everyday lives here on Earth. So it's a win win. And we're going to have that ultimate high ground because we know the Chinese just don't play by the rules. They've been doing nefarious things in space with their satellites. And we, even though the Russians collided some of those satellites in space, which has caused a lot of space debris, which diminishes the life of a, of a satellite because they always have to maneuver around some of the larger chunks. So it's a big battle out to be the chairman of this committee. And we're really optimistic. Tomorrow will be a start of an incredible 10 day journey in which we'll learn a lot so that we can land on the moon with even more success.
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Host Amanda
Pretty darn cool. And Congressman, you're a big part of this. Your committee has been shepherding us all along. It's a great honor to have you on the show the eve of such a big day. Thanks for joining us.
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Donald Trump
Thank you, John.
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Congressman Mike Heridopoulos
Thanks, man. Good luck and we'll see you soon.
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Host Amanda
Hey folks, tomorrow night that moonshot most likely will happen here during our show. We'll have live coverage all throughout the night. We take a quick commercial break. When we come back, one of the most famous and accomplished agents in the history of the FBI going to join us, a good friend, Wayne Barnes. He's got a new book out. You're going to want to read it right after these messages.
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Host John
Welcome back, everybody. You've heard us talk plenty about the deep state, but it's actually not a new phenomenon, deception, even amongst America's own intelligence and law Enforcement agencies goes back a very long way. For example, we now have an account from an FBI counterintelligence agent who was recruited to find a Russian mole inside the Bureau. However, when he found the mole, FBI leadership buried it. So why would they do that? Well, we're going to ask that counterintelligence agent himself. Joining us now to put this in perspective is former FBI counterintel agent and author of the book A Traitor in the FBI, Wayne Barnes. Wayne, thank you so much for being with us.
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Wayne Barnes
My pleasure. It's good to see you.
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Host John
Absolutely. You know, I think for a lot of our audience, they. Let's just say the FBI has suffered some damage because of corruption within its ranks. Were you surprised when this happened? And could things like this still be happening?
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Wayne Barnes
Well, it's a. It's a more complicated story than. Well, it was in 1998. It's the end of the Cold War. And all along, when people are now talking about it as the Hanson case, we did not know it was Robert Hanssen. We just had an unknown subject who we had learned there was a Soviet coming to the US Former Soviet official who knew the identity of the unknown subject in the FBI, and the goal was to try to recruit him. He was going to a film festival in Santa Monica. I was given the assignment to go there, find him, meet him, befriend him, recruit him, then show him photos of a dozen senior FBI agents who were suspected. Any of one who was suspected of being the traitor in the FBI giving our secrets to the Russians. It turned out to be Robert Hanson. But the fellow I was involved with did actually point out a photo. But then the goal in the FBI is not just do I know the identity, but it is to find someone, catch them in the act of passing classified documents. And that was the goal. That's one thing. They made it take so long.
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Host Amanda
Amazing. While you're doing that, you're starting to get a beat on the subject, and you run into some pretty serious, well, what we say, interference. Tell us what happened
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Wayne Barnes
in the case of Self trying to find him and meet him, or later on in publishing the book.
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Host Amanda
Well, I want to get to later publishing the book. But first, as you were trying to solve the case, the brass got cold feet, didn't they?
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Wayne Barnes
Yeah, it was difficult. In 98, I had been in San Diego for eight years. I had been previously in the Washington field office for 18 years. So I did a lot of counterintelligence work against Russians and all the Eastern Bloc countries. And I recruited individuals. So when it was learned that there was a traitor in the FBI. The question is who they would send to go to try to recruit a Russian who could identify him. Because everybody in the FBI at that point was a suspect, including me. But as it turns out, because I arrived in San Diego in 1990 and the traitor was active in 92 and 93, I wasn't the bad guy. So three agents flew out there literally under cover of darkness on a Tuesday afternoon, telling me, don't tell anyone else in the field office, not in your wife, no one at all, what we're doing, that we're here at all, and we want you to go to the film festival and meet this man and try to recruit him. And when a Soviet official is assigned to D.C. in their embassy for four years, it's almost impossible to recruit them. But. So I asked how long I had this, and the festival was eight days long. So they said, you have eight days. So Tom Cruise had his mission of possible movies, but his missions were jumping out of airplanes and scaling buildings. But they were physical obstacles. I, however, had a psychological obstacle. The Soviets believed there were two superpowers, that they were the member of the best superpowers. So why would that guy want to talk to me? So it took all of the profiling. I attribute part of this to my old friend John Douglas, who did profiling in the criminal field with serial murderers and the like. And we also use the same kind of profiling counterintelligence, but ours is all classified, so it wouldn't have made it into the public sphere, but it was the same way. What would it take to have the man agree to talk to someone from the FBI? And that in therein lies the big difficulty we had to surmount. But it worked out well in the end.
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Host John
Wayne, very quickly. We've just got about 30 seconds left. Talk to us about the pushback that you've gotten in actually getting this book out.
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Wayne Barnes
Well, to have any kind of a book published, whether it's poetry or fly fishing in West Virginia, you have to send it through the pre Publication Review Unit in Washington. And they had never had a book submitted to them, which was a nonfiction counterintelligence book. And I was the first one who did that. If you want to write about one big drug case you had in Detroit or kidnapping in Tampa, you know, have at it. But this was all what they consider sources and methods. And it took me seven years. I sent it to them in three. In 2016, they have 45 days to review a book. Three years later, it came back to me. Completely redacted. I flew to Washington three times to argue out and finally, after a full seven years, they released it.
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Host John
Wayne, we are so glad. I'm so sorry. We're up against a heartbreak, but we are so glad that it's out. Everybody go get it. A traitor in the FBI by Wayne Barnes. It's out officially April 7, a week from today. But you can pre order it now. So go do that again. A Traitor in the FBI by Wayne Barnes. That's gonna do it for us tonight. Have a great one. We'll be back tomorrow, same time, same place.
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Brent Sadler
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