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Just the News No Noise with John Solomon and Amanda Head, October 27th, 2025
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John Solomon
Good evening America. Happy Monday. Welcome to the latest edition of Just the News. No noise. I'm your host John Solomon reporting to you as always from the nation's capital. A busy day, though not so much in Washington, D.C. rather overseas, where President Trump has kicked off an extraordinary foreign trip, visiting Japan earlier today in Malaysia over the weekend. But it all comes as a backdrop to the President's trade negotiations with Chinese leader Xi Jinping later this week. The Trump administration has announced a number of big developments on that front. First, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessen says the United States and China have reached a substantial framework in trade talks already, further explaining that the president has given him maximum leverage around the rare earth mineral policy, threatening 100% tariffs if the Chinese end up implementing any kind of rare earth export controls on the United States. Secretary Bessant also revealed that the two countries have reached what he called a final deal on TikTok that would allow the social media giant to remain operational in the United States. That deal will also be made official after President Trump meets with Xi Jinping on Thursday. The deal sees US investors owning 80% of the apps US operations with Chinese parent company ByteDance owning a 20% stake. The big question will be who owns the algorithm. We should learn more about that over the next couple of days. We also have some big news coming from the FBI to get to dealing with the bureau's policy of building alliances with local police departments. It's resulting in some major wins. The most recent was Operation Chalk line, which used 14 SWAT teams to penetrate street gangs that had been terrorizing the cities of Milwaukee and Racine in southeastern Wisconsin. FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino praised it over the weekend. Officials said the raids around Milwaukee were the product of a years long investigation that brought state and federal partners together. Pretty successful operation. And by the way, the gangs they took down had ties to international cartels. They weren't just even terrorizing in Wisconsin. They were all over the world. That's just the latest example. The partnerships known as Homeland Security task forces that brought together FBI and HSI personnel as well as task force officers from local, state and federal partner agencies. The target, transnational organized crime activity. That's what they're bringing out. Things like drug trafficking and human trafficking. Big wins. Cities are a lot safer. There were five cities that had major raids last week where those task force were fast at work. All right, great time to bring in my amazing co host Amanda Head for more headlines. Amanda, what do you got cooking?
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Amanda Head
Yes indeed, John. I want to get out to that big mayoral race in New York City for just a minute because it has obviously been dominating the national conversation lately. Not necessarily because it deals with the future of America's biggest city. That of course is a huge consideration. But it also deals with the future of the Democrat Party. Which way should they go? Should they come closer to the center and moderate their positions like some perceive the 2024 results show? Or should they swing further to the left like Others argue the 2024 election shows and it seems that we have our answer in case of New York City Democrat mayoral candidate Zoran Mamdani. It's widely predicted that Mamdani is going to be the next mayor of New York City City. And let's just say that some of his policy prescriptions aren't that of your mom and dad's Democrat Party. Here he was explaining at a rally what he held that he held over the weekend.
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Andy Roth
We are going to freeze the Rent for more than 2 million rent stabilized.
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John Solomon
Tenants.
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And use every resource at our disposal to build housing for everyone who needs it. We are going to eliminate the fare on every single bus line and we are going to create universal child care.
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At no cost to parents.
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Amanda Head
Yeah, I mean that all sounds great in theory, but who is going to pay for it all? As the great iron lady said, socialism is great and so you run out of other people's money. So will it be the white neighborhoods that Mamdani has said that he wants to tax more? Kind of seems like it. But this, this is who the Democrats have decided is going to be their standard bearer. Don't believe me? Well, here is Governor Kathy Hochul at that very same rally. Elect Soren. We take back America. Thank you Queens. Thank you New York.
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John Solomon
I love you guys.
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Amanda Head
Elect Zo Run and we take back America. I don't know, John, maybe that works in New York City where you say we're going to have higher taxes for white neighborhoods. But I know a lot of states in this country where they would say to them, don't try that around here.
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John Solomon
Listen, what's going to happen is that people are going to change their residency. The billionaires will open up a place in Florida and only stay in New York five months a month. They won't pay their taxes. Middle class won't be able to afford it. They're going to leave and you're going to have a ghost town that they can't pay for anything in New York. That's the dynamic that all the economists I'm talking to are talking about.
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Amanda Head
Very different Democrat party from when you started covering politics.
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John Solomon
100% different, dude.
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Amanda Head
It's a different Democrat party than when.
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John Solomon
I was more like. It looks more like Castro than it looks like America of the 1990s. It's pretty remarkable. All right, well, helping to make sense of all that we just talked about at the top of the show. Joining us now, the great representative from the state of North Carolina, Congressman Mark Harris. Congressman, great to have you on the show.
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Hey, John, it's great to be with you and Amanda today.
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It is an honor to have you on. I want to talk about some of the things that the president has achieved on this trip already. Deals with Australia and southeastern Asian nations to get us rare earths, putting us back on a better footing after years of China doing that. A framework of a trade and tariff deal that could be that obviously Wall street liked a lot today. And then of course getting TikTok in American hands. China ran wild for four years under Joe Biden. But it feels like President Trump is starting to level the playing field. What are you seeing? What do you expect to come out of the meeting with President Xi later this week?
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Well, John, one of the things that I'm seeing is that we need not be too quick to forget that Joe Biden and his leadership retreated from the world stage. And what I think you're seeing happening this week, and we've been seeing in these weeks leading up to now that President Trump is reasserting the bold leadership that the United States of America has really needed to have on the world stage. And he is bringing us back in a very strong way. And I'm very, very hopeful. You see the work that's already happened. He had a peace deal that he simply was able to go and witness just the other day. He's now meeting with the prime minister of Japan. He's looking for more trade opportunities. I know some things to try to help our farmers here in the United States, even the soybean purchases of some other countries. So there are things like that that he is doing that I'm very, very excited about. And then, of course, much of this is leading up to the meeting that he's going to have with President Xi toward the end of the week. And the framework is already, it seems to be put in place for that meeting. And I'm very, very grateful American leadership is back under this president. And I think the American people ought to be very excited.
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Amanda Head
Congressman, there are a number of industries that are rich in North Carolina. President Trump has often spoken and tweeted about the furniture industry and bringing that back to states like North Carolina. But I also, with President Trump having these conversations with China, it also brings about the conversation of, of bringing those pharmaceutical active ingredients on, shoring them back to the United States, which I think Raleigh, North Carolina, has a huge industry when it comes to pharmaceutical R and D. That would really, really go a long way in boosting North Carolina, especially in those cities, wouldn't it?
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John Solomon
No doubt about it. Research Triangle park there in Raleigh is a big area that we see this kind of research being done and leading the way around the country. And so this will be a big boom to our entire community. And we're seeing all kinds of things that are a boom. We see Amazon that's bringing $10 billion to my district that we're very excited about. In fact, on Thursday, I'll be a part of a groundbreak ceremonial groundbreaking that we'll be doing for that in Richmond County. So just some amazing things that are happening, that this president is taking seriously the trade efforts and really just rebuilding our economy.
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Yeah, it's pretty remarkable. Sir, I know you've been very concerned about mifeprestone and not only its widespread distribution, but the lack of medical monitoring, the side effects that moms do suffer from it. That hardly ever gets talked about when you talk about Planned Parenthood or the media that covers it. Can you give us a sense of what is possible, what can be done to reign in this drug or to create some regulatory oversight in the next few months? Because I think a lot of women are growing concerned that maybe it's handed out way too easily. And to the great danger of women who don't get follow up from their.
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Doctors, it is handed out way too easily. And I think that many of us that have been a part of the pro life movement across this country for a long time have been very concerned that when folks can actually just go to their mailbox and get a pill to, to terminate their pregnancy, that is extremely dangerous. From the health care of the woman to the. Obviously the termination of the child is something we're extremely concerned about and we've seen legislation introduced. I've been a part of it. That would somehow limit and bring that to an end. I was disappointed recently when the FDA actually approved a generic form of this and felt like it was out of step to everything that we have been promoting. And so we've sent a letter calling for that to be reined in and for those that are responsible for moving this generic drug forward to be held accountable. So again, it's something very dangerous. It's something that we need to be aware of. We need to make sure that women are not in a position where they're going to find themselves in a medical emergency as a result of taking this very dangerous drug. Women bleeding out and other instances like that occurring. And it needs to be when it is administered, it must be under a doctor, doctors care. I think that is just a common sense regulation. And we've been pushing common sense in this Congress and this administration. And when you look at mephistrone, this is something that we're allowing to happen without common sense regulations being in place.
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Amanda Head
Absolutely, sir. Another social issue involving children. I know that North Carolina, as a majority red state, most of the time anyway, parental rights is a big issue. So you have statewide a lot of parents who are standing up for keeping the gender ideology crap out stuff, sorry, out of schools. But you have a few certain districts, school boards who are trying to push it in there what do you do about those?
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John Solomon
Well, I think President Trump is being very clear that he is not going to allow federal funds or any monies to get to those school districts and, and those states that are allowing boys and girls sports and all those kind of things. We need to hold them accountable. Of course, now we've got a Democrat governor in North Carolina and a Democrat controlled state board of education that we've got to deal with. And those are issues that our state legislators are having to work through. But again, we've got to use common sense. We've got to make sure that, that in all areas of education that the parents voices are being heard and again, protecting young people in the midst of it. And again, I think that we're making strides in that direction. But again, we've got to make sure that these school boards are not funded with asking the taxpayers to continue to put money into something that is an 8020 issue. Overwhelmingly.
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Another issue that is so popular with the American public, the crackdown on violent crime, the FBI taking on transnational gangs and street gangs and spies and terrorists in record numbers. Your state had one of the most horrifying crimes of the last year. A young woman who fled Ukraine in the horrors of war, coming here for a new life, gets stabbed to death by a guy who was repeatedly released despite despite his dangerous and criminal behavior over and over again. Tell us where we are in that case and what is being done at the state, local and federal level now to make sure we don't have more repeats like that.
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Well, John, I wish I could give you a lot better news. I will say in a positive vein that our state legislature did pass Irena's law, named after Irina Zarutska, the young lady that you were referencing that had come from Ukraine and was murdered in cold blood right there on our light rail. But there's still so much work to be done because as we came and brought the House Judiciary Committee for a field hearing there in Charlotte, there were not only the story of Irena that brought us together, but we listened to an impassioned father that shared about his daughter there in South Carolina, Logan Federica, who was killed in cold blood in just a robbery there in the University of South Carolina, visiting friends. She lived in my district right there in Union County, North Carolina. So again, these were people that had been arrested in our case, arrested 14 times in Arena's case. But there in Logan's case where she was murdered, the guy had been arrested 39 times and 25 felonies and yet was still out walking the streets. So there are movements that are being made to pass laws to somehow control these magistrates from being able to put people back out on the streets. But this is something that needs to change again at the federal, state and local area. And judges have got to be held accountable and we've got to continue to make strides in that direction. And that's, again, one of the things that we have pushed for, is that we would actually pass a law that would bring transparency to the situation where if you're in a community that's going to have no cash bail, if it's going to be a community where you're going to be defunding the police, that ought to be known to everybody in that city. It ought to be known to people that are considering vacationing to that part of the country so that they avoid going there. We need to be having ways of communicating that. And we're wanting to move legislation that can actually make that happen, as well as, again, cutting out funding. We can't say to these blue soft on crime cities to that the American taxpayers are going to be sending grants and everything else to those cities when you're continuing to do these kind of things. And we've got to be willing to step up. And then, of course, look at what President Trump's been able to do, where he has sent in the National Guard. They're in Memphis, right here in Washington, D.C. where I am tonight. We have seen amazing strides that have been made when they got the support. And in Charlotte, North Carolina, they, the Fraternal Order of Police have asked the governor to bring in the National Guard there to be able to step in in Charlotte and make a difference and bring support where our police are understaffed by the numbers that they shared.
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Remarkable stuff. It'll be an amazing day when you can go to any community and find out what violent felons, the district attorney or judge let out without bail. That will be a big win for the American people. Congressman, great to have you on the show today. Thanks for joining us.
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Always great to be with you guys. Y' all have a great day and thank you for all you do.
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Amanda Head
Welcome back everybody to just the News and the Noise. We have said it before in the show, we said this last week that election integrity is the number one most underreported subject in America, which is kind of crazy because when you think about it, practically everything in our country is determined by elections and policies that those people we elect ultimately implement. And we've had some ongoing issues with our elections as everyone who watches the show knows. So joining us to talk about what we are doing today to make our elections safe and secure is Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights at the US Department of Justice, Harmeet. Dylan Harmeet, great to have you back on the show.
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Harmeet Dhillon
Thanks for having me.
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Amanda Head
Shut down shmut down. You guys are rolling down the road a number of very, very consequential election integrity cases. Tell us about the top ones.
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Harmeet Dhillon
Well, one of the things that we've been doing in this DOJ is enforcing our federal civil rights laws related to voting. And they include the Help America Vote act, the National Voter Registration act, the Voting Rights act, and some other statutes including overseas voters and military voters. And we've been asking states to produce the data to us of their voter rolls and just to be able to make sure that they only have citizens on the rolls and that they don't have duplicates and have people voting in multiple jurisdictions. And so we've had to file eight lawsuits throughout the United States to enforce are data requests, which are something that they have to comply with under the Voting Rights act and Civil Rights act of 1960. Some states have actually reached settlements with us. And North Carolina has agreed to remove over 100,000 voters who were improperly registered from their voter rolls and were in negotiations with some other states as well. And so this is an important task and tool that has really been neglected. In fact, when we started to bring these cases, some of the legacy lawyers in the Civil Rights Division told us that they were unfamiliar with how to do these cases. They've never been done in this, in the Civil Rights Division before. So we're proud to bring back these statutes and enforce them. That's one of the things that we're doing. And then sometimes we get requests as a Department of justice in elections, from candidates, from campaigns, from sometimes state officials to send monitors into elections to ensure integrity, particularly in areas where there may have been questions about it or a history of non compliance with our federal voting rights laws. And so this DOJ Civil Rights Division is sending election monitors to Passaic County, New Jersey and to several counties in California where we've been requested to. This is met with some resistance by some state officials. Governor Newsom has gone nutso criticizing this, but I don't recall ever hearing him object or prior Democrat governors objecting when the Democrat Department of Justice sent election monitors to these jurisdictions. And so turnabout is fair play. We're just responding to requests from folks. I don't know why anybody should be concerned about federal monitors when this is something that's been done in many elections in the past. And so we'll see. We'll see how this goes.
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John Solomon
Yeah, that's amazing what happens when you start to enforce a law against blue states. They don't like it. It's really interesting. Give us an update on Wisconsin. I think Wisconsin, in that letter you sent a couple of months ago, is one of the most important strikes on election integrity. If you're not going to comply, you're going to lose your federal funding. Give us an update on is Wisconsin complying? Are they in danger of losing their funding? Who else could be in danger of losing their funder with that accountability lens that you're applying?
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Harmeet Dhillon
Well, since this thing is ongoing, I'm not really going to comment on where it's going to go next, but we're very serious about it. You've seen my boss, Pam Bondi as well, and the president, they're very firm on these issues. And I think that's really the way to go. So what's interesting is how we do so much in our country today is states think that they're entitled to a lot of federal funding, but they actually aren't. You're not entitled to federal funding unless you're complying with federal law. And so they're not used to anybody enforcing this mechanism. And the shutdown has slowed things down a little bit in terms of we've furloughed most of our staff. We're dealing with some mission critical issues that can't be done after the election. But rest assured that once everyone comes back, be full steam ahead on all of these issues and making sure that as we approach those midterm elections that we're enforcing these federal laws. And meanwhile, as issues arise and are popping up, we are working with states and local officials and working with governors and, you know, we're holding people accountable to our federal election laws.
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Amanda Head
Harmeet, a lot of people have argued that when it comes to the law, election day is election day. It's not days, it's not weeks, it's not months. But you still have states persisting where they mail out ballots even without asking, even without someone, you know, requesting some type of absentee ballot. Do you anticipate that that can be done away with? What is the civil rights division within the DoJ's responsibility in making that happen? I know Congress has their role to play, but what do you see as the future of that fight?
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Harmeet Dhillon
The primary place where the mechanics of voting are dealt with under the Constitution is state legislatures. And so we believe in federalism. We respect that. The problem is that in the 2020 and some other elections, actually it wasn't the state legislatures, they kind of abdicated their role, particularly during COVID and you saw state supreme courts overriding those election laws passed by the state legislatures. That's happened in Pennsylvania and it's continuing to happen in Pennsylvania, actually. And then you have sometimes state attorneys general or state secretaries of state saying, whoopsie, you know, we have an emergency, so we're just going to make up some rules. So you're seeing states not comply with that federalism themselves. And so, you know, that may be something that can be addressed by the courts ultimately. So right now you see different litigants, particularly political parties, litigating these issues. You see sometimes the United States Department of justice will weigh in on it, expressing our viewpoint on it. You know, we expressed our viewpoint on, you know, at a high level in the voting rights act for example, in the Supreme Court, Louisiana versus Calais. And you know, that's kind of our role is really is really at that level as a national policy issue and interpretation of the Constitution. But most of these laws are made at the state level. Now you know, Congress could address that issue. That's a policy issue. I don't deal with policy so much in my job. But Congress could address these issues by saying, you know, we grant federal funding, you know, for particular purposes or we could tie some of the, you know, federal grants or relief that comes under some of these federal voting statutes to certain minimum indicia of accuracy or competency or certainty. That could be something that Congress could, could do. And I'm sure people are looking at doing that at some point.
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John Solomon
I mean this comes up a lot when I talk just everyday public people saying, well, how do I be sure that I have equal protection under law when I vote in a state that does get illegal aliens off the ballots or non citizens off the ballots. But then Californians don't and they don't check the list. So we just saw the effect of the SAVE database and how much it can do for even a good state like Texas to find non eligible non citizen voters. Is there any consideration that that should become the norm and that not checking that database would create an unequal protection for voters in states that they don't look for illegal aliens or non citizens on the rolls?
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Harmeet Dhillon
Again, that's kind of a policy issue. I'm a big supporter of checking this data and these databases. We know from what we've seen, I mean, that's one of the reasons I'm requesting this data on behalf of the Attorney General is to do the job for the states. The states aren't doing it, and I mean red states and blue states, they're not doing their job to keep the voter rolls clean. That's a fact. You see many anecdotes and instances. I know many that I've examined myself as a private lawyer for campaigns and for the Republican Party when I was in my private role before I joined the Department of Justice, where you see wholesale really using ballots like mailers, like shoppers, like catalogs, like people just get spammed with them. They get multiple ones. It's difficult to. People assume when they move and they register in a new state or a new county that they're taken off the voter rolls. Not so. Even if you inform the Secretary of State in some states, they don't take you off. You have to go to the county level. And you know, I've had a couple of people in my family pass away. And one of the first things I did after the funeral was contact my county registrar from, you know, for the family to make sure that they're removed, it would be a disgrace to their memories to have someone else vote their ballot for them. And so this is something that citizens have to be very proactive about. But Secretaries of State, people don't really think about this. But people rarely run for secretary of state because that's their ultimate goal in life. They're actually usually parking themselves to be a senator, you know, governor waiting to run for president or what have you. That's certainly the case in my former home state of California. And so there's not a lot of accountability. We citizens need to demand that accountability. We're entitled to that. And so this is among the first administrations that's really focused on this issue in a Republican administration. I'm proud to be leading that effort. And, you know, the administration is 100% behind us on this.
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Amanda Head
Harmeen, I'm interested to know what you think about any of these cases that end up at the supreme court, because with a 6, 3 breakdown on the supreme Court, with a lot of these cases they have ruled in favor of the Trump administration and basically in the name of election integrity. Do you anticipate and do you want to see these cases ultimately end up there and maybe sooner so that that can be settled?
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Harmeet Dhillon
Well, we do have the one case before the court right now that's very important. Louisiana v. Calais goes to the important questions regarding equal protection. When it comes to drawing lines in, that's really about the Supreme Court cleaning up its own confusing jurisprudence in this area that has dealt with, I think, outdated methods of analyzing the requirements under the Voting Rights act and some outdated criteria under Jingles v. Thornburg. That's an important case that's going to be, I think, maybe possibly determined by this one. But in terms of other cases before the court, you know, I think that I think it's important for the court to really weigh in on issues like election day versus election month versus letting the ballots come in days and even weeks after the fact. There's a lot of loosey goosey aspects of the law called u o kava, which has to do with overseas voters. And what's interesting is Democratic Party has actually been coaching people in some elections to go, if they're an overseas voter, send their ballots into one of these battleground states and there's nobody on the other side of the registrars office or the Secretary of State testing whether that person has ties to that state and, you know, whether they're legitimately picking that state to vote in versus some other state. So we really need to crack down on that kind of a thing. And on the other end of that same law, we need to make it very easy for our military voters to be able to vote. And frankly, there have been some military commanders out there in the field who don't facilitate that. So our young men and women in uniform give up their right to vote when they go overseas. And so their commanders need to be letting them print the ballots and send them in, download them. I really dealt with that in the Arizona election last year. It was kind of sad to see the number of people who weren't able to vote for dumb reasons. And so these are all things I want every single American, whatever their political affiliation, to be able to vote if they're an American citizen in a federal election and only once and only with other American citizens. It's pretty simple. It's this way around the rest of the world and yet in America we're having a hard time complying with this one person, one vote concept. One of the other issues that's very interesting that is going to hopefully eventually be decided by the court is this whole issue of who gets counted in the census and how that gets counted in terms of allocating congressional districts. Because if you have, for example, a California where there are millions of illegal aliens, they're counted in the census. And then on top of that, the Biden administration census counting actually used AI to smooth out the way they're calling it to sort of estimate overestimate. Because they were saying, oh, you know, people who are here, maybe they're not legal or maybe they're not citizens, they're afraid to report for the census. So we're just going to like boost those numbers and smooth them out. Kind of shocking. So this is something that needs to be fixed by the courts, I think. Absolutely.
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Amanda Head
Like you said, it's all so simple. Harmony Dillon, Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Division, doj. Thanks much for being here. Thanks for your expertise.
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Harmeet Dhillon
Thanks for having me.
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Amanda Head
Absolutely. All right, everybody, very quick break. Back on the other side.
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Welcome back, America. A decade ago or so, the Freedom Caucus started in Congress and boy, did it disrupt Congress. It began to demand accountability for spending and shrinking government and regulatory reform. And it paved the way for the Trump 2.0 revolution that we're now going through. Now. Now that spawned a whole movement in the states and quite frankly, the State Freedom Caucus. State Freedom Caucuses are really turning up a lot quicker with greater effect. Joining us now, the president of the State Freedom Caucus Network, Andy Roth to tell us about it. Andy, great to have you on.
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Andy Roth
Thanks for having me, John.
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John Solomon
All right.
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I know people get frustrated because change in Washington is measured in inches. But in the states, it's being measured in mil. Big, big changes from tax reform to shrinking government doges at the state level that are probably even more effective than the federal doge. Tell us what the Freedom Caucuses have done.
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Andy Roth
Well, let's step back a little bit. A lot of people don't know that the Freedom Caucus is just one of the it is the most powerful conservative caucus in the US Congress, but like you said, it's expanding into the states. And what do I mean by that? Ron DeSantis, former House Freedom Caucus founder, is now arguably the most conservative governor of the United States. Raul Labrador, former member, is the attorney general in Idaho. And now this election cycle, we have House Freedom Caucus members Andy Biggs and Ralph Norman running for governor in Arizona and South Carolina. What's amazing about that is that the group I run, the State Freedom Caucus Network. We're creating state freedom caucuses in the 50 state capitals. We've got 13 of them so far. And the reason I bring up Andy Biggs and Ralph Norman is that we've got an Arizona Freedom Caucus and we've got a South Carolina Freedom Caucus. If those two gentlemen win, and I believe that they're very heavy favorites to win their party's nomination, you now have a Freedom Caucus Governor and a state Freedom Caucus working in the legislature, the state legislature and, and amazing things will then happen. You'll be able to doge the agencies, you'll be able to cut taxes, you'll be able to shrink the size and scope of government. So those two states we're really excited about, but like I said, we're in 13 other states like Wyoming, Illinois of all places, Maryland, another blue state. Pennsylvania, Missouri, Montana, Louisiana, on and on. And our goal is to eventually get into all 50 states. Places like New Jersey and California are going to take some time, but they do have conservatives in those states and they need representation. So we'll get there eventually.
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Amanda Head
Andy, I talked about this at the top of the show. This, this dynamic that we are seeing with the Democrat Party where especially with candidates like Zoran Mamdani, it looks like they are running far, far, far to the left. On the other hand you have Republicans who it seems like, especially with issues like taxation, particularly property theft. Whoops, little bit of faux pas there. Property taxes that conservatives are returning to the Constitution. When it comes to these types of ideas spreading even in states like you mentioned, like California, do you think that those states look at red states where, like Florida, where conditions are improving, let's say, and they maybe would be a little bit more open minded to those policies in their own.
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Andy Roth
Well, that may be a step too far because I think the blue states really do want to bleed their taxpayers dry. California is trying to put a wealth tax on their ballot for next year and that's going to just drive migration out of there. Californians are going to go to Texas and Florida. So to think that California is going to change their stripes is, I think a little far fetched, at least in the short term. But once all of those wealthy people leave those blue states and come to the red states, I think it's a signal obviously that the red states are better. That being said, I do want to make a point and this is the most profound point I can possibly make. No matter how corrupt you think D.C. is, the 50 state capitals are even worse and people don't believe me when I say that. But the reason why is because when you turn on your TV or when you turn on your phone, most of the things that you see are President Trump, Kamala Harris, the Democrats in Congress, the war in Ukraine, what's happening in the Middle east, the Federal Reserve and inflation. Most people don't know what's going on in their state capitol and the 50 swamps in those 50 state capitals. They like it that way. They like operating in the dark. And what happens is you have Democrats and liberal Republicans conspiring together even in the red states to grow government. And so what our state Freedom Caucuses are doing is exposing all of that. And one of the places that we've been most successful is in Wyoming. We only had eight members of the Wyoming Freedom Caucus when they launched just two years ago. But because they sounded the alarm, they became a household name to all voters in Wyoming. They are now in charge of the Wyoming state House. The speaker is a Wyoming Freedom Caucus member. The pro temp is a Freedom Caucus member. All of the chairs of the powerful committees are Freedom Caucus members. So we have the blueprint. We know we've cracked the code. We know how to do this. We know how to save our states. We just have to replicate it in all the other ones.
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John Solomon
Freedom is contagious. Real quickly, Andy, we only got about 30 seconds left. What's the big idea floating around the states that hasn't come to Washington but one day?
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Andy Roth
Well, well, I think we've got to solve the redistricting problem. Our Missouri Freedom Caucus was the. They were the Republicans in the state legislature that wanted to do redistricting. The legend, the swamp there didn't want to do it. But because the Missouri Freedom Caucus and President Trump worked together, they were able to deliver that. And now we just got to do it in the other states.
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John Solomon
Yeah, I bet you're right. That's going to be a big move. We're seeing it more and more in every state around the country. Andy Roth, president of the State Freedom Caucus Network, great to have you on. We'll be sure to get you back on real soon again, thanks for joining us.
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Andy Roth
Thanks for having me, John.
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John Solomon
Yeah. Great conversation. All right, folks, after the break, law professor William Jacobson always brings some big ideas with lawfare. We're learning so much about it. We're going to tackle that next, right up to the commercial.
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Amanda Head
Welcome back everybody. President Trump is taking on the woke takeover of America's universities. His new higher education reform plan draws a line in the sand. No more taxpayer dollars for indoctrination, censorship and anti American propaganda. So joining us now to to talk about that and much more, Cornell University law professor and founder of the Legal Insurrection Foundation, William Jacobson. Sir, thanks so much for being with us.
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Ryan Reynolds
Great to be here sir.
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Amanda Head
Seven years ago we heard the horror story of what happened at Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I talked to a lot of folks who say that anti Semitism just lurks beneath the surface. No matter what time is hap. What? No matter what time it is, no matter what's happening, anti Semitism is right there beneath the surface. Should we have paid more attention then? Because now we have seen an absolute snowball effect of this ramping up in the last few years.
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Ryan Reynolds
I think we should have. I mean that shooting obviously is in a sense an outlier. I mean there are not that many violent outbursts like that, but the sentiments behind it have spread like wildfire after October 7th. And a lot of it spread through social media, particularly Twitter, Instagram, TikTok. There really is a war against the Jews online and that's really the only way to describe it. Every ill on the earth is ascribed to Jewish control, things like that. And it's that sort of rhetoric that causes a small number of people to snap and to shoot up a synagogue or do other acts of violence.
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John Solomon
Yeah. It is amazing how a pandemic like it has become the pandemic of antisemitism. I want to talk a little bit about some of the successes. Over the weekend, a big deal was announced with uva. We're starting to see universities realizing that it's in their interest to create a new education culture, not the one we've had to endure. Where do you think this leads? And is UVA's deal a sort of model that we could see other universities engage on?
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Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, well, what UVA essentially did is agree to actually follow the law.
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John Solomon
Okay.
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Ryan Reynolds
The law says you can't discriminate in hiring, you can't discriminate in terms of educational opportunities. You can't discriminate based on race in admissions to the school. And they've agreed to do that. And they've agreed to introduce concepts that you would have thought would have been there all along, like diversity of viewpoint, things like that. So the fact that UVA has taken those steps is very significant because most of the schools reacting to Trump's proposals are rejecting them out of hand. And the schools are foolish because higher education is in a downward spiral. Gallup came out with polling just in September. This is an old polling, and it's by Gallup, which showed that the lowest percentage ever of people thought that college degrees are either important or very important. That's astounding. Pew just came out with findings that a super majority of people across political parties, across ethnic groups, across racial groups believe that higher education is heading in the wrong direction. So higher education is losing the population, but it insists on biting the hand that feeds it, and that's really a problem. And Trump is offering them an off ramp, which is just stop being so crazy leftist. You don't have to be conservative, you don't have to be maga, but how about moving a little bit towards the center? Allow diverse viewpoints, et cetera. And I don't know if higher ed is prepared to do that. University of Virginia was, and kudos to them.
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Amanda Head
Yeah. And they will likely be thriving because of it. I want to ask you about the other side of that situation because you have a lot of Ivy League schools, but other universities, entrenched liberal institutions like UC Berkeley, ucla, that I think are still going to be resistant to this, even if it hurts their federal funding, even if it hurts their enrollment, even if it hurts their stature, are you concerned that there are institutions like that that are just going to dig in?
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Ryan Reynolds
Well, it's not so much a concern, it's a reality. I think they will. And the universities in California, the public universities, are in a really tough spot because Gavin Newsom has said that if anybody takes a deal with Trump public university, we're cutting you off at the state level. So they've been put in a really impossible position. But put California aside, these other universities, and I include Cornell in them, I include other Ivy League schools, other so called top tier schools, they really need to reconsider whether the model they have is sustainable, whether a model where the univers universities not only do not reflect society but are hostile to society, yet rely on society in the form of the federal government to fund them. Is that really a sustainable model? And I don't think it's sustainable. And I hope more of these schools would be reasonable. Trump came out with this compact for higher education, but he's open to negotiate on it. But I think it's seven out of the nine schools he offered it to, including MIT and Brown and a few others have already rejected it. They said, we're not even going to talk about it. You're impinging upon our independence. Well, I say as somebody who's in academia, who's at an Ivy League school, I say, where has your independence gotten you? It's gotten you into a really bad place where you have an unsustainable model, where you have purged conservatives from the faculty, you haven't hired conservatives in 20 years, and this is not sustainable. You just can't keep going this way. But they don't seem to see it that way.
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John Solomon
You're working on something else. We only got about a minute left. I want to ask about this combating anti Zionism, which is I think a code word a lot of times for antisemitism. Tell us why you took the sign and what it will likely result in.
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Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, well, I mean, it wasn't something started by me, but it's something that I certainly support, which is to identify the anti Zionist elements who are trying to create Zionist free zones on campuses. We saw that in ucla they actually set up checkpoints and that's part of Trump's push for diversity of ideologies. You cannot have Zionist free campuses. That's not permitted. And so I think that's an important initiative that has been started.
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Amanda Head
Professor William Jacobson, we love having you on. Thank you so much for being here, sir.
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Ryan Reynolds
Thank you so much.
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Amanda Head
Absolutely. All right, everybody. Coming up after the break, we've got a few more topics we want to hit before we head out for the night, so stick around. We'll be right back.
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Amanda Head
Welcome back, everybody. JOHN Last week when I was out in California, I saw a news blurb about a number of major airports across the country who were refusing to air Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Nunn's videos at the airport. Everybody knows when you're standing in line at tsa, you see, you see the secretary up there talking, and it's just a rolling video. They play the same thing over and over again. And I thought when I saw that, I was like, oh, boy, California airports for sure are going to jump on that bandwagon. That bandwagon. To my surprise last night when I went to Burbank airport. Airport. Good old Little. It's not, it's not a municipal airport. It is bigger than a municipal airport. But they were playing the video and I was quite impressed. They had it on mute. But, you know, it was there. And I was worried I was going to have issues coming into Reagan because of the lowered workforce, but again, no issues. So, you know, I know a lot of folks say that the shutdown is hurting a lot of people, but there are a lot of people in this country other than SNAP benefits, people on Saturday who aren't feeling it at all.
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John Solomon
I think that's a big thing. The SNAP benefits going to become the first tangible kitchen table dinner issue to be out there. And will Republicans make Democrats pay for it or will they let the message be muddled by the Democrats? Today, a prominent Democrat, Congressman golden from Maine, came in and said, my party is lying to the American people. This is not about health subsidies. This is about creating a shutdown to try to turn the tables for 2026. First, kudos to the congressman for speaking the truth. Secondly, will Republicans pick up on that and how will they make sure that when these checks don't arrive, they make the Democrats pay for it the way Republicans used to pay for shutdowns? That's going to be the big question.
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Amanda Head
And I think there's another line of messaging that Republicans can seize. And you and I talked about this earlier, and maybe it'll make its way into a story that I write later in the week. But if you take SNAP benefits away from illegal immigrants in this country, how much longer could that program have subsisted for just Americans, for natural born Americans or naturalized Americans?
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John Solomon
That is such a valuable statistic to have to be able to show people because a lot of the debt we're In a lot of the excessive spending we suffer from, a lot of the shutdowns are over things that actually provide no benefit to the American public. And so being able to show how much longer Snap could have existed if we didn't have illegal aliens. That's a good. That's a good one. I can't wait to read that one.
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Amanda Head
Someone should write that. Let's see.
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John Solomon
I think that's a great idea.
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Amanda Head
All right, John, we'll finish up with a few somewhat fun topics, although it wasn't fun for me a few nights ago. But my Blue Jays are in the World Series, up against the LA Dodgers. Now, obviously, I lived in la, but my team. I am devoted to my husband and his team, the Blue Jays. Who are you picking?
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John Solomon
I think the Blue Jays are going to come back. I think they had one bad night. They're going to win. They.
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Amanda Head
I think it's going to be really, really fun. Yep. All right, John, this other story that I want to finish up with, and I will admit that I have not been. I've never been a gamer. The last game I probably played was Grand Theft Auto eight years ago.
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John Solomon
You got me beat. Last one I played was Pac Man.
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Amanda Head
So I know you've played video games since then. All right, so a lot of people are celebrating the fact that the video game Halo is releasing its first installment on Sony PlayStation consoles. Our producer in our ear was saying Xbox is dead, an unprecedented development given the fact that the series was exclusive to Microsoft's Xbox ever since 2000. Now, President Trump has gotten involved in the celebration because he jokingly said that he presided of the end on the end of the console Wars. And the GameStop X account played into the joke by making an AI photo that depicts President Trump shaking hands with Mash Master Chief, the main character in the Halo series. So everybody's getting and a little on.
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John Solomon
A new piece deal, but only in the gaming world, huh?
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Amanda Head
So are you gonna go out and play some halo on the PlayStation console? Nope, nope.
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John Solomon
No. I only have an Atari. I'm not joking. That's all I got.
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Amanda Head
Wait, what's that?
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John Solomon
40 years old. Did you not see my first laptop? I still have it here.
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Amanda Head
Typewriter. First typewriter is impressive. Absolutely. All right, everybody, that's gonna do it for us. Somebody fill us in on the whole PlayStation Xbox thing, because clearly neither one of us have the authority to speak.
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John Solomon
That one flew right past me.
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Amanda Head
All right, everybody, thanks so much for being with us tonight. Grant Cinchfield is going to take you through the next hour of headlines. But tomorrow night we will be right back here at the same time, same place. That is 6pm Eastern right here on Real America's Voice.
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