Just the News No Noise with John Solomon and Amanda Head, October 28th, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: Just the News, No Noise – October 28, 2025

Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Hosts: John Solomon & Amanda Head
Date: October 28, 2025
Episode Theme:
A deep-dive into recent political developments, including a congressional bombshell about President Biden’s pardons, the ongoing Arctic Frost investigation targeting MAGA Republicans, U.S. energy policy advances under the Trump administration, government shutdown dynamics, the fight against AI bias, and more.

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Main Theme Overview

This episode of "Just the News, No Noise" delivers rapid-fire analysis of headline-grabbing revelations in U.S. politics:

• A House Oversight Committee report on President Biden's use of the auto pen for signing pardons and executive orders—now deemed "legally invalid" and under DOJ investigation
• Exposure of the FBI’s expanded probe into 160+ Republicans under "Arctic Frost" and claims of coordination with the January 6th Committee
• Interviews with Rep. James Comer (Oversight Chair), EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin, and Rep. Andy Biggs, plus spotlight discussions on the government shutdown, U.S. rare earth mining, and conservative investment strategies
• Concerns over chronic disease and "fake meat", AI bias, and building a conservative “parallel economy”

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Key Segments & Takeaways

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1. Biden Pardon "Auto Pen" Scandal

[00:26–12:58]

Summary:

• John Solomon breaks the story: The House Oversight Committee has concluded several Biden-era pardons and executive actions signed by auto pen are "legally invalid"; DOJ is investigating.
• The probe shows Biden’s senior staff and cabinet had little to no direct interaction with the president during critical decision periods, particularly the lame duck months.
• Inner circle and staff secretary testimonies confirm irregular and inconsistent use of presidential signature authority.

Notable Quotes:

• John Solomon [01:34]: "A lot of them didn't really know what he was up to... the White House staff secretary... didn't interact with President Biden for six to eight weeks at a time."
• James Comer [04:26]: "I've never seen anything like it. Joe Biden was deteriorating fast... Cabinet secretaries seldom saw him... Ian Sams... only saw Joe Biden in person two times in two years."
• James Comer [05:59]: "A pardon is a powerful thing... If the President himself can't physically sign that pardon, there has to be a reason. What we found was [an] overzealous staff using that auto pen without the authority from the president."
• James Comer [08:12]: "I think all the pardons should be declared null and void that were signed with the auto pen... during the lame duck period when Joe Biden was checked out."
• James Comer [10:31]: "We've handed this to Pam Bondi on a silver platter. We've done all the heavy lifting... The report is 100% accurate and the pardons need to be declared null and void immediately."

Key Points:

• The House Oversight Committee is urging all auto-pen-signed pardons and executive orders from Biden's lame duck period to be invalidated.
• Potential perjury and cover-up regarding Biden’s cognitive health and decision-making capacity.
• Concerns over Hunter Biden’s involvement in pardon meetings and alleged conflicts or corruption.

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2. Arctic Frost – FBI Dragnet Targeting Republicans

[00:26, 30:52–32:50]

Summary:

• Revelations about "Arctic Frost," an FBI probe (with input from the Jan. 6 Committee) targeting 160+ MAGA movement Republicans.
• Allegations that the investigation expanded far beyond January 6th, mapping Republican and conservative activists across the country.

Notable Quotes:

• Amanda Head [32:18]: "When you are using it for political purposes against political enemies... that is absolutely about as low as you can go. People need to be held accountable."
• John Solomon [31:19]: "It looks like a mapping of MAGA, a dragnet of MAGA. Your reaction...?"

Key Points:

• Arizona State legislators, candidates, and activists were all under investigation.
• Weaponization of federal law enforcement for political purposes is alleged.

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3. EPA, Rare Earths, & U.S. Energy Independence

[15:24–29:04]

Interview with EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin

Summary:

• Discussion of several Trump administration rare earth mineral deals (Japan, Southeast Asia, domestic mining) to break U.S. dependence on China.
• Focus on environment-friendly domestic mining and swift permitting reforms.
• Creation of the National Energy Dominance Council for inter-agency energy coordination.

Notable Quotes:

• Lee Zeldin [16:21]: "We need to not only be tapping into the [rare earth] supply, but boosting the entire supply chain process... We're making leaps into and through this golden age for America."
• Lee Zeldin [18:03]: "Speed is key... a permitting reform bill ... would lead to permits taking less time, costing less money, having more certainty."
• Lee Zeldin [20:40]: "We tap into our own resources here in the United States so much better than many countries around the world... we're not paying kids, like in Africa, nothing or possibly in fact nothing."
• Lee Zeldin [22:34]: "Just at EPA alone... we've canceled just over $29 billion worth of grants. This is about being a good steward of tax dollars."

Key Points:

• The administration ties rare earth policies to national security, economy, and environmental quality.
• Major regulatory reforms, cost-saving initiatives, and focus on rapid infrastructure investment.

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4. Chemtrails & Geoengineering Transparency

[26:39–29:04]

Summary:

• Zeldin discusses the EPA’s ongoing investigation into “chemtrails” and geoengineering, emphasizing transparency and public access to findings.

Notable Quote:

• Lee Zeldin [26:56]: "I said everything that I find out, I want to let the public know. There’s no reason… the American public can’t also find out about."

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5. Government Shutdown, SNAP Fraud, & Accountability

[30:27–38:17]

Interview with Rep. Andy Biggs

Summary:

• Federal government shutdown enters its 28th day; Republicans’ poll numbers are up, especially with independents.
• Biggs argues the Democratic party is responsible for the prolonged closure.
• Widespread fraud in SNAP and other entitlement programs spotlighted; Biggs calls for aggressive cleanup and oversight.

Notable Quotes:

• Andy Biggs [33:57]: "They know they're the ones who are thwarting opening government."
• Andy Biggs [35:38]: "Like every other program... massive fraud... it's time to clean out all of them because this country is going off the edge."
• Andy Biggs [37:22]: "The first thing you have to do is… hold people accountable who abused the system."

Key Points:

• The shutdown is framed as a test of political will and fiscal responsibility.
• Calls for removing fraud, waste, and duplication from government aid programs.

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6. Health: “Fake Meat” & Collagen

[41:04–45:29]
Guest: Dr. Chad Walding

Summary:

• Discussion of the MAHA movement’s role in consumer rejection of ultra-processed and lab-grown meats.
• Warnings about increased chronic disease tied to moving away from natural whole foods.
• Importance of dietary collagen for aging, bone, skin, and joint health.

Notable Quotes:

• Dr. Chad Walding [41:29]: "When they hear things like lab meat... they're starting to put their hands up. People are refusing this stuff... That to me shows the power of the MAHA movement."
• Dr. Chad Walding [43:06]: "Collagen is the most abundant protein in the body... as we get older, it’s more important to consume collagen on a consistent basis."

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7. AI Bias, Defamation Lawsuits, & Conservative Investing

[47:16–53:38]
Guest: Tom Carter (American Conservative Values Fund President)

Summary:

• Robbie Starbuck’s $15M lawsuit against Google for alleged defamatory AI hallucinations (labelling him a criminal).
• Carter and hosts warn of entrenched left-wing bias in major tech and AI platforms.
• Strategies for conservative investors to avoid supporting companies (like Google, Disney, Nike) with opposing values by investing in alternatives and conservative funds.
• The rise of the parallel, right-leaning economy in media, tech, and finance.

Notable Quotes:

• Tom Carter [49:33]: "We don't give our investment dollars to Google... You're blocking capital from going to a company who is using their AI to push the other side."
• Tom Carter [51:11]: "They're very transactional... but their middle management... are still politically left... we still don't trust a lot of the tech companies."
• John Solomon [53:27]: "Competition always fixes the economy."

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Memorable Moments

• Hunter Biden’s presence in pardon meetings (“No conflict there, right?” – John Solomon, [03:15])
• Comer's condemnation of decentralized White House process and call for standardized procedures ([05:59])
• Transparency pledge from EPA on chemtrails/geoengineering investigations ([26:56])
• Andy Biggs calling government SNAP fraud “massive” and demanding urgent reform ([35:38])
• Dr. Walding’s anecdote of regrowing hair after upping collagen intake ([44:56])
• Tom Carter’s blunt strategy: “We don’t give our investment dollars to Google.” ([49:33])

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Quick Reference by Topic & Timestamp

| Segment | Guest(s)/Speaker(s) | Start | End | Notes | |-------------------------------|----------------------------|---------|---------|----------------------------| | Biden pardon/auto-pen scandal | Solomon, Comer, Head | 00:26 | 12:58 | Deep dive, key section | | Arctic Frost | Solomon, Head, Biggs | 00:26, 30:52 | 32:50 | FBI/Jan. 6 investigation | | EPA & Energy | Lee Zeldin | 15:24 | 29:04 | Rare earths, chemtrails | | Government Shutdown | Andy Biggs | 30:27 | 38:17 | SNAP, accountability | | Health (Fake Meat, Collagen) | Dr. Chad Walding | 41:04 | 45:29 | Nutrition, wellness | | AI, Tech, Investing | Tom Carter | 47:16 | 53:38 | AI bias, conservative funds|

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Tone & Language

• Direct, matter-of-fact, at times combative toward political opponents (mainstream media, Democrats, big tech)
• Emphasizes accountability, transparency, American innovation, and grassroots activism
• Hosts use rhetorical questions and wry humor (“No conflict there, right?”) to underscore points

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Conclusion

This episode presents an unfiltered conservative perspective on recent political and cultural flashpoints. Anchored by original reporting, exclusive interviews with policymakers and experts, and a firm stance on American values, it’s a must-listen for those seeking insight into the right’s narrative on transparency, government overreach, Big Tech, and economic sovereignty.

Transcript

[Amanda Head]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[John Solomon]

Good evening, America. Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the latest edition of Just THE news. No noise. I'm your host, John Solomon reporting to you from the nation's capital, where a heavy dose of accountability was meted out today. We start with a bombshell report that we started about 5am this morning on Just the News. The House Oversight Committee has deemed that former President Joe Biden's auto pen orders, including some pardons, were quote, unquote, invalid, legally invalid, and it's asked the Justice Department to investigate. Attorney General Pam Bondi has since taken the committee up on that request. The findings come from a probe the House Oversight Committee launched earlier this year. They interviewed lots of President Biden's inner circle aides and found that, well, a lot of them didn't really know what he was up to. In fact, one of the most important positions in the White House, the White House staff secretary who handles all the paper make sure it's proper. She said she didn't interact with President Biden for six to eight weeks at a time, which means she didn't know who authorized the signature on many of the pages. Oversight Chairman James Comer is going to join us in a few seconds to talk about that bombshell revelation and we're going to try to pin him down on exactly which pardons and exactly which executive orders he wants Pam Bondi, the Attorney general, to invalidate. We're going to get to that in a second. Another piece of major news. We've been following this Arctic Frost story for over two years now. It's an investigation by the FBI into the top tiers of the Republican Party and the MAGA movement. Today, the GOP led House Judiciary Committee revealed new documents from the FBI director, Casp Patel that show that more than 160 Republicans, you heard that number right, 160 Republicans were being targeted by the probe. That's a lot more than previously known. We KNEW There were 92 groups, eight senators, one House member, obviously President Trump and Vice President Mike Pence. But 160 people were on the target list. And there's also significant evidence that the Congress, the January 6th Democrat led committee, the President often calls it the UN Select Committee, it was feeding information behind the scenes to the FBI, trying to egg on that investigation. We're going to get to all of that throughout the course of the show. And we got a good one for you today, including EPA Administrator Lee Zelda. We're going to get to all of that. But let me bring in quickly my amazing co Host, Amanda Head. 160 people. This wasn't an investigation. It was a MAGA. Dragnet.

[Co-host (possibly another host or commentator)]

That is exactly the word that I was thinking. Dragnet. I feel like half of the guests who have come on the show have likely been pulled into this dragnet and on and on the Biden auto pen, you know, Hunter Biden, his was anomalous. It was hand signed. And someone in the Biden White House, despite all of this possible malfeasance, but definitely incompetence, someone had the good sense to make sure that that one was hand signed. And I don't think that that are no accidents. No accident whatsoever.

[John Solomon]

But speaking of Hunter in the report, he's attending a lot of the meetings where these pardon side. So a guy convicted of tax and gun crimes who himself is due to get a pardon, he's presiding over some of these meetings. No conflict there, right?

[Co-host (possibly another host or commentator)]

No. A potential pardoner. Pardonee, I guess. Pardon recipient sitting in on. I mean, basically pining for this from his own father. It's nepotism, it's corruption, it's malfeasance.

[John Solomon]

It's the way the Biden White House ran. And I don't think Joe Biden even knew it about it. To his defense. Well, earlier today, Amanda, you and I had a chance to sit down with the chairman. James Comer wrote this report. He led this investigation. Meticulous detail in this report have a watch to what we talked about. We pinned him down on some pretty important stuff. All right. Joining us now, the man behind that bombshell report released by Congress today that gave us just how incapacitated Joe Biden appeared to be. The chairman of the House Oversight Committee, Chairman James Comer. Sir, good to have you on the show.

[Chairman James Comer]

Thanks for having me.

[John Solomon]

All right. This is truly a bombshell. When you take all the depositions, all the documents, all the records, it is pretty clear that Joe Biden wasn't even visible or available to his senior staff. And yet decisions were being made without him.

[Chairman James Comer]

I've never seen anything like it, John. It was much worse than I would have thought. We knew it was bad. We all saw with our own eyes that Joe Biden was deteriorating fast with respect to his mental and physical capacity as president. We knew that, especially during the lame duck period, he was seldom seen or heard from. But once we started bringing in the inner circle, it was shocking that you had cabinet secretaries that seldom saw Joe Biden. You had his inner staff, his.

[Amanda Head]

His.

[Chairman James Comer]

His secretary who in a normal. A normal president, their executive secretary sees him multiple times a day. This one would seem you Know, you know, just a few times a month. Ian Sams, who is his White House spokesperson on all the investigations and everything, who would do daily press conferences. He only saw Joe Biden in person two times in two years. I mean, you can't make this stuff up. And you realize that this really was a shadow government and you had a few people that were using the auto pin just like they were the President United States.

[Co-host (possibly another host or commentator)]

Well, and sir, you had multiple chiefs of staff who described the process as not precise, they were non verbal.

[Commercial/Advertisement Voice]

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[Co-host (possibly another host or commentator)]

Guess approvals by President Biden that completely went unrecorded. President Trump is not an auto pen type of president. But going forward for future presidents, shouldn't there be some type of standardized or formalized process for this?

[Chairman James Comer]

Absolutely. I mean, I think anything that's a legal document the President should have to sign. Obviously you're going to use the Otto pen for certificates of achievement or mass letters for, for correspondence. But with legal document, a pardon, a presidential pardon is a powerful thing. If the President himself can't physically sign that pardon, there has to be a reason. Either the President didn't evaluate the pardon or the President wasn't in a mental or physical shape to be able to sign his name. And you know, that's what we had here with Joe Biden. And with a pardon, you're defying everything that happened in a court in that you're defined the rule of law. One person has this authority and that one person is the President. It's not the Chief of Staff, it's not the Vice President, not the first lady, it's the President of the United States. It's the last check and balance in our judicial system. And what we found was Joe Biden, even by his own admission with the New York Times interview, didn't evaluate all those pardons. And every process was different. There were inconsistencies in what the senior staff said the rules were that they applied by with using the auto pin, what the deposition said versus what the emails that later service said. With respect to the concern from the Garland Department of Justice on the excessive use of the auto pin, everything was different. Everybody's stories were different. And I think what you see is a very loose White House with a deteriorating president where you had an overzealous staff that was using that auto pin without the authority from the president.

[John Solomon]

Stunning. I want to ask about two things. Do you believe that there are people who misled the committee, didn't tell the truth based on the contrast between their testimonies and the evidence? And two are There specific pardons or specific executive actions that you think are most invalidated by what your evidence shows?

[Chairman James Comer]

I think all the pardons should be declared null and void that were signed with the auto pin. These were all done during the lame duck period when, when Joe Biden was checked out. I think the executive orders that were done during the lame duck period should be declared null and void. If you look at the history of executive orders are pardoned, a president always makes a statement. At the very least, they're available to the press. To this day, Joe Biden has not answered his rationale or anything on those pardons, nor has he on the executive orders that were issued during the last few days of the Biden presidency. So I think that's a problem. You ask if anyone lied. I'm concerned about the COVID up of the President's health. You know, what we found was that several of the staffers that answered questions said yes. We discussed whether or not to give Joe Biden a cognitive test because the media was asking about it and a lot of the Republican candidates were demanding it. But we determined that we shouldn't give him one. Now, I found that hard to believe. If you determine not to give him a cognitive test, it's either you didn't think he would pass it or he took it and failed it and you're lying about it. The same thing with Joe Biden's health. Did they test him for prostate cancer? Did he have prostate cancer? Were they covering it up? Did they give him a cognitive test? I think Dr. O' Connor has a lot of questions that he needs to answer. That's why we referred him to the Medical board of Washington D.C. because either he's a really bad doctor or he's not being truthful about his assessment of the President's health. And that's his job as a White House position to inform the public as to whether or not the President United States is healthy and mentally fit to serve as President of the United States.

[Co-host (possibly another host or commentator)]

Sir, very quickly, so for folks like Dr. O', Connor, including Jill Biden's chief of staff, those people who pled the fifth, does the DOJ have more tools in their tool chest other than the medical board referral that you talked about? Do they have more tools in their chest that can help compel more answers? And if so, what do you got to know?

[Chairman James Comer]

Yes, and I think that the DOJ needs to take this and run. John, We've handed this to Pam Bondi on a silver platter. We've done all the heavy lifting. We've done the depositions, we've combed through the emails. I mean, this is the hard, tedious work of an investigation. Now it's up to her to bring these people in. If there's anything in the report that's inaccurate, if there's anything in the deposition that we reported that are mischaracterized, now here's your opportunity to try to defend the other position. If not, then the report is 100% accurate and the pardons need to be declared null and void immediately. I would go further, but now this is me and I would hold some of these people accountable for misrepresenting the president's health and for abusing their power as a bureaucrat in the White House that was essentially forging the president's name on pardons. I mean, you could ask a lot of questions. I know some of the people that were pardoned from Kentucky. These are wealthy Democrat donors. We heard from Jeff Zayat that Hunter Biden was in the room where the decision making was taking place on the pardon. Look, I don't think we need to say any more on this show about Hunter Biden being in the room with pardons when people have the potential to maybe be paying for pardons. We didn't go that route. We just tried to look investigate the autofin and the president's health and mental fitness. But I think the Department of Justice could go a lot further. I mean, to have Hunter Biden in the room talking about any pardons, I mean that's, that's pretty bad in itself. But a guy that, that we prove, John, and you all have reported on many times was taking money from our adversaries around the world, peddling access for his father's position as Vice President of the United States. Having him in the room when you're issuing thousands of pardons with the auto pid, I mean, that's, that's suspicious in itself.

[John Solomon]

It sure is. Especially by that time he had been convicted of multiple felonies to remarkable. Chairman, as always, you're doing amazing work. The ball has moved to the Justice Department. We're going to get answers here soon. Thank you for joining us today.

[Chairman James Comer]

Thanks for the great work you all have done on this and all the other investigations that we've done on the overseas.

[John Solomon]

We sure appreciate your hard work as well. And then the time today as well. Thanks so much. All right, folks, we're going to take a quick commercial break. When we come back, guess what? Rare earths are going to one day be mined on American soil. That's something that hasn't happened for a decade. The EPA administrator, Lee Zelda, is taking the lead to making sure that happens. He'll join us next after these messages. Hey America. A new administration in Washington, D.C. has brought a lot of positive changes when it comes to fixing our broken health care system. But the truth is, if we want to make America healthy again, it starts at home. And that's where the wellness company comes in. You hear from the doctors on this network all the time and their new Recharge product is a game changer. It's the only formula combining methylene blue and urolithin a. Designed to power your brain, your cells and your energy. Recharge enhances mental clarity and focus. It increases ATP production to fuel your cells and supports healthy aging with powerful antioxidants. It also strengthens your muscles, boosts endurance and revitalizes damaged mitochondria, giving you clean, lasting energy. Without the crash, it's inconvenient tablets. No mess, no blue tongue, just results you can feel. Go to TWC Health JustNews and use that promo code. Just News to save 10%. That's TWCHealth JustNews promo code. Just news.

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[Co-host (possibly another host or commentator)]

Welcome back everybody. President Trump has had a very busy week already. It's only Tuesday, but his trip to Japan saw him securing another rare earth mineral deal with that country. The biggest clause, however, had to do with permit restrictions, as the framework establishes a shared need to streamline permitting processes associated with all of the gathering of these rare earth minerals. And it's especially important because China is trying to secure a stranglehold over the world when it comes to exporting These minerals. So joining us now to talk about that and more is the EPA Administrator, Lee Zeldin. Sir, thanks so much for being with us.

[EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin]

It's great to be with you both.

[Co-host (possibly another host or commentator)]

All right, so we've got Malaysia, Cambodia, Thailand, Australia, now Japan. If we combine those critical deals already that President Trump has secured, we throw, throw in some domestic production as well. Does that go half the way in liberating us from China so that we're not dependent on them? How far down the road does that get us?

[EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin]

Well, as far as President Trump goes, I mean, the sky's the limit and we can't just double what we've done so far at some point in the future and then be satisfied with it. We always need to be pushing even further. And we have so much of these rare earth minerals in our own ground. We need to not only be tapping into the supply, but also boosting the entire supply chain process. So it's not just that we're taking it out of the ground and then sending it to some other country and then bringing it back to our country later in the process. It would be great from start to finish to be able to tap into these resources. It's important for our national security, for our economy. It's also better for our environment, too, because we tap into these supplies. So much better and safer than so many other countries around the world. So this is a big deal. And as far as quantifying it, I would say that, you know, we're making leaps into and through this golden age for America. But I wouldn't say that President Trump would ever be happy just by doubling what he's done so far. He's going to just keep pushing no matter what.

[John Solomon]

Mr. Minstrel, I want to ask a little bit about what it will take to get a really sustained mining industry going in America. The Obama Biden years really killed mining in America. What are some of the regulatory hurdles? What are some of the science, what are some of the things that you're doing behind the scenes to make sure that one day we're mining rare earths in Alaska or middle Minnesota or Wyoming and other places where we know those metals exist?

[EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin]

Advancing cooperative federalism, working with states and local governments, engaging with these companies and these investors directly. While the Department of Interior may be assisting with leases, there might be a need for an air permit or a water permit, and we want to get to yes as quickly as possible. Speed is key. There's a permitting reform that's being debated as a possible legislative opportunity that could be available. I believe That a permitting reform bill that would lead to permits taking less time, costing less money, having more certainty would be key as far as far as the process as well. I would also add that something President Trump's done this year that's really important is creating this National Energy Dominance Council. You don't have individual agencies siloed off, just focused on their own jurisdiction. We work together, we partner together. You know, just last week, meeting with President Trump in the Oval Office, with the Department of Interior, Department of Energy, Department of Commerce, and collaborating, that is so important. I think in the past where somebody would start a permitting process and they may be 15 months down the road or 18 months down the road, they're being told no for something that they could have gotten a heads up on much earlier, that's something that needs to be avoided as well. And there's just, and there's so much more from the sighting on brownfields and Superfund sites. The list goes on. I've traveled the entire country. By next week, I'll have already been to 48 of our states. And it's important to get out of Washington as much as possible. I have seen so much groundbreaking this year. This isn't a conversation about an opportunity that's five years or 10 years down the road. I'm going to West Memphis, Arkansas. We could go Monday with a $4 billion Google data center in an hour at a Cheyenne where there's a brand new mining operation in Wyoming or a new nuclear facility that's being built right now in Idaho Falls, Idaho, people are actually breaking the ground already on these massive investments.

[Co-host (possibly another host or commentator)]

Massive investments and massive jobs that will come from it. I want to ask you because I can hear the green side of this country screaming already. They hear the word mining and they think, oh no, they're going to destroy the environment. But when it comes to mining and refining these critical minerals, if we do it stateside and when it comes to detrimental impact on the environment, there really isn't much of one, is there?

[EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin]

We tap into our own resources here in the United States. So much better than so many other countries around the world. And on top of it, by the way, we're not paying kids, you know, practically nothing or possibly in fact nothing like we see with some of these stories elsewhere, like what we're witnessing right now in the African continent with China Belt and Road Initiative. So the impacts are so wide reaching. When we talk about the increase of baseload power, whether it's coal plants or natural gas pipelines in plants or these nuclear sites These data centers, you just go one source after another. And as I mentioned earlier, it's not just about something that's huge for our economy. And you just pointed out the benefits of creating American jobs. It's not just big for our national security because we're in competition with other nations like China. It's also so much better for our environment. We tap into American innovation and we care about clean air, land and water for all Americans. And I would say with great pride, Americans should keep their head up, held high, knowing that we tap into these resources so much better than so many other countries elsewhere.

[John Solomon]

So you mentioned the Energy Dominance Council. I think it may be one of the most under reported innovations of this administration. And it's drawn on the fact that our primary adversary for world dominance, and particularly in the air race, China, has made energy the center of its economy and all of its foreign policy. This is a game changer. You saw now that you've been at the epa, the work that the Biden administration did, how many billions of dollars did we invest in things that brought no benefit to American energy that we're now unraveling and fixing with this council?

[EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin]

I will tell you, just at EPA alone, our annual operating budget is about $10 billion a year. We've canceled just over $29 billion worth of grants. We've saved money on staff efficiencies, real estate consolidations, canceled media subscriptions. We closed a EPA museum that no one even knew about or even visited. We're pursuing efficiencies within our own agency. In this one example that I'm sharing of one agency, in one year, you're looking at three times the size of our annual operating budget. You had money that was going to environmental NGOs. And I'm not here saying that we should take money from a left wing activist NGO and give it to a right wing activist ngo. This is about the American taxpayer. This is about having zero tolerance for any waste and abuse. This is about being a good steward of tax dollars. And for us here at the Trump epa, we're very proud to do our part to be able to save the taxpayers. And as much as humanly possible, we owe it to them, especially with the size of the deficit and debt that we've seen accumulated over the course of the last several years.

[Co-host (possibly another host or commentator)]

Mr. Administrator, when you look at these requirements that Xi Jinping is trying to place on the export of critical minerals, he's basically shutting it down completely. I don't think anything would fall through the cracks. So when President Trump sits down with Xi Jinping. When that meeting happens, what leverage does put President Trump have in this debate now?

[EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin]

Well, the United States is a massive economy. We should proudly be looking at any type of negotiation with any other nation, anywhere else, friend or foe, with a tremendous awareness of just how strong and big our own economy is. And, you know, China would love to be able to export into the United States. They don't want to lose out on any opportunities that they feel are important to their country. You know, President Trump talks about this often. He talks about how his focus is America first and that he understands that these other national leaders of these other countries, he expects them to be fighting for what's best in their own country's national interest. He gets it. But we have a lot of leverage on the world stage. We, we are a world power that has a massive economy. We have a massive military. We have an active State Department and a diplomatic effort across the world. We have powers from cyber to intelligence to healthcare and so much more. And President Trump understands the art of the deal. He goes into these negotiations well aware of what the counterpart on the other side of the table is looking for out of a negotiation, and also well aware of what President Trump is bringing to the table when he sits down on our side. We've seen in the past with other presidencies where at times it felt like we were trading our strong negotiating position with a far inferior counterpart, where it was like we were allowing them to take the upper hand over us unilaterally. In some spirit of fairness for President Trump, he's going to sit down at any table wanting to strike the best deal for America. And I'm confident that any deal that is struck in is one that is done with the best interest of American farmers, of American companies, the ability and need to be able to export our goods to new markets elsewhere, to be able to fight for our country. And I'm excited about the future as we see all these trade deals that have already gotten across the finish line since January.

[John Solomon]

Sir, before we let you go, just real quickly, in July, you announced an investigation into chemtrails. This is something that's fascinated people. A lot of times people are misinformed about it. President kind of just called attention again to, with the new social post. What are, what are the, why take this on and what are the most important things for Americans to know about it?

[EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin]

Well, for one, I don't believe that we should be playing God with the weather. That's just a fundamental belief going into all of this. I was asking a lot of questions early on. And I made it clear to everyone at EPA as I was asking these specific questions. Some were very general, some were highly technical. And I said everything that I find out, I want to let the public know. There's no reason that I as administrator of EPA should be privy to information regarding geoengineering that the American public can't also find out about. Now what I've encouraged the public to do is to make sure that members of the public are always communicating accurately on what they are talking about, what they're concerned about, the questions that they are asking. For example, this is one of the examples that I would give is that sometimes people look at the trail that's coming off the back of jet aircraft and they will say on their social media feed, look at this picture, look at this video. This shows that this is stratospheric aerosol injection and it's not. And I would just encourage the person communicating just to make sure that we're using the right terms, that we're being accurate, that we're being truthful because it could undermine the credibility of the question or the argument that people are making. And we will just continue to provide that transparency. We put new websites up on the EPA website. We encourage people to come read it and as I learn more information, I will continue to report it. By the way, these, this goes beyond just the jurisdiction and equities of epa. This involves others. But we're still going to communicate publicly even if the particular topic isn't something that's specific to epa.

[John Solomon]

I love it.

[Co-host (possibly another host or commentator)]

Transparency as policy. What a novel idea. Sir, I know we mentioned this earlier, but every time we have conversations with innovators, with investors, with C suiters, they are so excited about what you are doing in this role. EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin. Sarah, thanks so much for being here.

[EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin]

All right, thank you both. Take care of.

[Co-host (possibly another host or commentator)]

Absolutely. All right everybody. Coming up, another one of our favorite folks. Congressman Andy Biggs is going to be here to weigh in on the 28th day of this government shutdown. Bat and a whole lot more after.

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[John Solomon]

Welcome back, everybody. If you thought Chairman Comer, an EPA administrator Zeldin, were a big deal, we got another one right next to him. Coming up now, a congressman from the great state of Arizona, one of the most cogent voices when it comes to civil liberties and trusting and getting trust back in our law enforcement. He's Congressman Andy Biggs. He's also running for governor of Arizona. Congressman, good to have you back on the show.

[Amanda Head]

Thank you, John. Thank you, Amanda.

[John Solomon]

Good to be with you. You as well. All right. I want to start with something we mentioned at the top of the show. New Arctic Frost documents released by House Judiciary from Cash Patel. You get to see 160 Republicans are being targeted by this investigation. It's not a Narrow investigation about January 6th. It looks like a mapping of MAGA, a dragnet of MAGA. Your reaction to the new documents and what we've been learning about Arctic Frost the last few weeks.

[Amanda Head]

Well, first of all, thank you for you guys consistent and unwavering investigation into this horrific violation of civil rights in America today. This is absolutely one of the core pieces of evidence of the weaponization of the federal police state. So if you look in my home state in Arizona, the people who are being investigated here included state legislators, a senatorial candidate, people who were just rank and file advocates, grassroots activists for, for Republican causes, that they were investigated using the apparatus of the special counsel, but also the J6 committee. And there's a reason why the J6 committee actually needed to get their all, all of them and their staff needed to get pardoned because they were violating right after.

[EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin]

Right.

[Amanda Head]

And using it against political enemies there that, that it's bad enough when you're using it and you're violating rights because you're sloppy or because you have a personal agenda. But when you are using it for political purposes against political enemies, which is why it was 160 plus Republicans, then that is absolutely about as low as you can go. And people need to be held accountable.

[Co-host (possibly another host or commentator)]

Congressman, I want to Shift to the shutdown. We're at day 28, which I think is what, three days away from the record, which was during President Trump's first term at 31 days. But there's a recent poll out, CNN was forced to cover it earlier today, that with the. The approval rating for Republicans during this shutdown, they're improving their rating with not only Republicans but also independents. They're up 12 points with Republicans and 8 points with independents. With those types of numbers, do Republicans have any reason whatsoever to waiver on the shutdown?

[Amanda Head]

No, and we should not waiver at all anyway because we did what we were required to do. The House voted to open it up six weeks ago or four weeks ago, whenever it was. And then the Senate. The Republicans in the Senate have voted overwhelmingly over and over and over again to open up government. It's the Democrats who have said no. And, I mean, that's why you actually are starting to see some fractures in the Democrats in the House and the Senate, because they know they're the ones who are thwarting opening government.

[John Solomon]

Yeah. And they're losing that battle every day now. The unions have turned on them. Those with SNAP benefits are turning on them because they know they're not going to be able to meet the requirements at the dinner table soon. Do you feel like the moments ahead where the Democrats are going to finally fold their cards?

[Amanda Head]

Well, because I am seeing some fractures. If honesty were to prevail, I think it would happen tomorrow. Look, you've got the governor who's a Democrat of Arizona, you got the two senators in Arizona who are Democrats. They literally wrote a letter to the head of the usda, which is Brooke Rollins, and said, please open up and give us the contingency funds for snap. But here's the deal. Hey, you know what it takes, Mr. Kelly and Mr. Gallego? It takes walking down to the floor and, and voting yes on opening the cr, which was bipartisan and is the same language that was there six months ago. But they went down again even after they wrote that letter. After they wrote that letter and said, no, keep it closed. Shame on them.

[John Solomon]

Amazing.

[Co-host (possibly another host or commentator)]

Absolutely, sir. You are a fiscal hawk up on Capitol Hill. I know you're going to do that in Arizona as well. But we have a major problem when it comes to the SNAP program that John mentioned. The American. And people spend $145 billion a year. On top of that, there's all sorts of fraud, people selling off their EBT cards for cash at a rate of 4 to 1. I mean, it is rife with fraud. But not only that, it costs so much money. Is now the time to take a serious look at this program, much like we have, much like President Trump has with illegal immigration. Is now the time to do a radical do over?

[Amanda Head]

Well, I don't know if you do a radical do over, but one thing I will tell you is this program, like every other program that's been doged, has found massive fraud. And you should clean out that fraud. You got to clean out the fraud, the sooner the better. Not just in obviously this, but in Medicaid with, you know, you just name a subsidized program and there's massive fraud. And so it's time to clean out all of them because this country is going off the edge of. And so, you know, my mindset is let's clean out the fraud, let's stop the duplication and let's, and let's, and then let's reassess where we are. And I'm plenty happy to do that.

[John Solomon]

Some of the biggest beneficiaries are the people that will rely on those programs because now they'll know they'll have the refunds not being stolen from them. It's just so easy to fix, but it's been so hard to accomplish in Washington. I want to turn back to where we started the conversation before we let you go, Congressman. You were a part of a small group of lawmakers who unraveled Russia collusion from day one and 17. I watched you day in and day out, you and Jim Jordan and Evan Nunes and lots of other, a handful like six or seven people day in a day and peeled back that onion. And what we saw was that the FBI was used for political dirty chick and opposition research. It looks like with Arctic Frost. The Congress, the Democrat J6 Committee was that opposition research project for the, for the Democratic Party. But doing the work of the Democratic Party at Americans expense. Do we, do we have to look at some reforms, at how Congress goes about its own oversight so we don't have abuses in the future?

[Amanda Head]

Yeah, we do. And the way you do it, quite frankly is, is the first thing you have to do is you have to hold people accountable who abused the system. And they did abuse the system. And by the way, no one's held them accountable for destroying the evidence that they ostensibly put together to support their continued invasion of Americans rights and privacy. That's if we don't do that, this type of thing will continue on. And if it continues on.

[Tom Carter]

The American.

[Amanda Head]

People'S trust in their institutions, which is already low will continue to erode. And who can blame them? Who can blame them?

[John Solomon]

We're all going to be the for the worse if we don't get that accountability meted out pretty soon. I know you've been working hard to get that done. It's a great honor to have you on the show today. Thank you for joining us.

[Amanda Head]

Thank you. It's always good to be with you, too.

[John Solomon]

Thank you, Congressman. All right, folks, we're going to take a quick commercial break. When we come back, one of my favorite segments of the week, the weekly health update. We're all trying to get healthier. We got some good tips and advice for you coming up next, right after these messages. Hey, folks, I knew we all have two ages, our actual age and our body's internal biological age. What I didn't know is I've likely lowered my biological age without even knowing it. Here's the thing. Because Americans eat so many processed foods and not enough fruits and veggies, many are 10 plus years older on the inside than their actual age. And that is a ticking time bomb. Major university study suggests how to slow aging and diffuse that biological time bombs. Participants slowed their aging by drinking field of greens. That's all. They didn't change their eating, drinking or exercise, just took field of greens. Each fruit and vegetable in field of greens was doctor selected for specific health benefits, cell health, heart, lungs, kidney, metabolism, even healthy weight. I feel great knowing field of greens can slow how quickly I'm aging and I encourage you to join me. Swap your untested fruit, vegetable or green drink for a field of greens while there's still time. Check out the university study and get 20% off when you use the promo code [e-mail], that's fieldofgreens.com, promo code. JustNews.

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[John Solomon]

Welcome back, America. Time for one of my favorite segments of the week, the Justin News health update brought to you by our great friends at Natopath. Joining us now, the co founder and chief culture officer at Natopath, our good friend Dr. Chad Walding. Doctor, good to have you on.

[Dr. Chad Walding]

Hey John, So good to be here. Thank you for having me.

[John Solomon]

I love these discussions. I've heard from so many people. I was out at a speech a couple weeks ago. People come up. I love the health segments. We dive into really important stuff. And one of the topics that's been coming up a lot maybe because of the Maha movement, is the connection between fake meat and chronic disease. Tell us a little bit about what we're learning between that connection and what it could mean long term.

[Dr. Chad Walding]

Well, I think people are really waking up. You mentioned the Maha movement. I think that's created so much awareness in people that when they hear things like lab meat or something that's processed or ultra refined, they're starting to put their hands up. They're like, hold on. You know, we're starting to see different states banning lab meat and different companies funded by Bill Gates going bankrupt because people are refusing this stuff. And that, that to me shows the power of the movement, the Maha movement. It shows the power of the level of awareness that people are now connecting with their health and their food. And the power of when people come together and make a decision and really take action, that's one of the most important things to make a difference. We know now if you look at the past hundred years, there's a trend. The further away we get from real whole natural food, as close to nature as possible that's rich in nutrients and vitamins. The further away we get from that, the more cross chronic disease we experience, the further we go down. Metabolic disease, insulin resistance, cancers, diabetes, heart disease. That trend is there and it's been happening despite all our advances in science and in technology. So it might look from a, from a technological standpoint, this is amazing. We have lab grown meat and we don't have to plant anything and animals will stay alive. But that comes at a radical cost. So to see people waking up, I think it presents a bright future future in my opinion. I'm very excited about that. I'm very optimistic about it.

[John Solomon]

Talk a little bit about protein and then that transition to collagen. Collagen is the super protein that powers our body. When you get my age, I guess my collagen's being dialed down, isn't it?

[Dr. Chad Walding]

That's right, that's right. I mean, again, protein is the most foundational thing. I always encourage people eat a whole real food diet, you know, seek out the best sources, but also recognize that collagen is the most abundant protein in the body. Right. So when we're looking at each other, we're looking at our skin, our hair, our nails. All of this is made up of collagen. Inside our bodies, we have arteries and veins, we have gut lining, we have a whole nervous system. Right. All of that is also made up of collagen. Right. One of the issues though, is that we're super deficient in collagen in the modern world. Our ancestors got plenty of collagen because they would eat nose to tail, you know, they would, they take the bones of an animal, they would put it in soups, they would boil it down, and they would consume that on a consistent basis. Because we're so deficient in collagen in our modern world and have been eating so many refined foods, many of us as individuals are also extremely deficient in collagen. We produce collagen on our own, but that that production begins to decline around the age of 20. By the age we're 50, we're producing is half as much collagen internally as we did in our 20s. So the older we get, the more important it is to consume collagen on a consistent basis. That's why I'm such a big fan of it, you know. Our company, Native Path, we value the highest quality, purest ingredients as possible. So we source the best possible collagen you can find from grass fed cows. It's type one and type three, which is what makes up 90% of your body. It's as pure, as close to nature as possible. And the best part is it's so easy to use as a part of your daily routine. It's an odorless, tasteless powder that you can put in your coffee, you can put it in your teas, you can sprinkle it over your food even. But being consistent with it, one day after the next, week after week, month after month, you want to make this a part of your diet, essentially. And over time, you start to see repair in where you've been deficient. You'll see repair in your nails. At one point I was going to bald in the back of my head. So I up my collagen dose. I'm like, there it goes. It's working, you know. One last thing I want to mention is collagen is the, is the not talked about thing when it comes to bone health. Collagen extremely important for bones. And as we grow older, as a physical therapist, I can tell you strong bones is incredibly important for our function and our longevity. So collagen is extremely important for that. There's all kinds of studies and data that shows that consistent collagen supplementation can increase the density of your bones in a healthy way.

[John Solomon]

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[John Solomon]

Foreign.

[Co-host (possibly another host or commentator)]

Welcome back everybody. Many of you probably know conservative activist Robbie Starbuck. While he is fighting back against big tech, he has launched a massive 15 million dollar defamation lawsuit against Google accusing its AI products Bard, Gemini and Gemma of spreading vile false claims labeling him a criminal and a rapist when that is not true at all. So what can be done about it? And is AI bias something that we should be worried about? Joining us now to discuss is Tom Carter. He's the president of the American Conservative Values Fund. Tom, thanks so much for being with us.

[Tom Carter]

Thanks for having me.

[Co-host (possibly another host or commentator)]

All right, five years later. This is a very happy anniversary. Your organization has done a lot of good. Tell us about it. Tell us about, you know, what these five years have brought.

[Tom Carter]

Yeah, thanks, Amanda. Yeah, we're very excited about our five year anniversary. I think it's a proof of concept that a product that gives politically conservative investors an option to invest in something that's going to give them large cap returns well in line with the S&P 500 or the Russell 1000 without giving your money to companies that don't share your values is what conservatives want. And we're not as far along from an asset perspective as we'd like to be. However, we're very grateful with where we are and we're very happy with the shareholders who have put their trust in us to give them this politically conservative option to invest with us. And you just mentioned Google to keep your money from investing in the likes of Google, the likes of Disney, the likes of Nike, Starbucks, Apple and others. So we're very excited, we're very grateful to be around after five years. And we think we're doing exactly what we said we would do, which is give you returns in line with the large cap indices while not allowing your money to be invested with companies that don't share your values.

[John Solomon]

And I think we're starting to see as we move into the AI world that the biases that we knew were in websites or in web dialogues or in video and entertainment, they have made their way permanently into artificial intelligence, which is the next wave of our economy. What are some of the tools that we all have available using our dollars, using our wisdom to try to change this, to try to create a consequence so that these companies create a more balanced search in a future for us.

[Tom Carter]

Well, you know, it's a great point, John. And, and by the way, we've been on Google since, you know, back in 2016 when their search engine, as you mentioned, was changing results from the, from an election perspective and we're still on them today regarding their AI and the way we are handling it is we don't give our investment dollars to Google. So if you invest with our company, you don't invest in Google and you're, you're Blocking capital from going to a company who is using their AI to push the other side, if you will. They're certainly not pushing conservative values when they're doing this. And Amanda mentioned Robby Starbuck earlier. That defamation suit we think has, you know, we think it has legs and we think he might be able to get something out of it. Another way other people are playing it is by doing proxy statements to ask them to have guardrails on their AI to ensure that their AI is reviewed, to ensure that it provides knowledge. It is coming from both sides of the aisle. So there's a number of ways, but our way is by boycotting the likes of Google and others that are in the AI and using it for politically left consequences.

[Co-host (possibly another host or commentator)]

Yeah. Tom, have you perceived over the last decade or so that Google has gotten any, quote, unquote, better or more honest? Because, you know, five years ago, 10 years ago, we were all talking about how they manipulated their search results. They sent certain things to the top. And I know a lot of people have had to spend money on search engine optimizers and getting their, you know, the proper things at the top of that list. But have they gotten any better?

[Tom Carter]

It's an interesting question. You know, they're very transactional as a lot of the tech companies are. So you saw a lot of the tech CEOs at the inauguration up on stage with President Trump. And that was very interesting because we still think those are companies that don't share conservative values. So they are transactional. They do understand, as Michael Jordan famously said, Republicans buy shoes too. They do understand that. And so I think they're trying to. But their middle management on down, the people who are making decisions on a day to day basis are still based in Silicon Valley. They're still based in Seattle and the Washington area. They're still politically left. And although they are maybe making minor strides, we still don't trust a lot of the tech companies and we still think that they are hostile to conservative values.

[John Solomon]

Yeah, parallel economy, the new investment economy has become one of the great tugs. We're now making great movies in the conservative world. We're creating great marketplaces that don't let products in. We're creating new school capabilities and new education capabilities. What is going to be the era or the opportunity in the AI world to create that parallel economy?

[Tom Carter]

Well, I mean, I suppose if there was enough capital that someone like an oracle would come with AI that would maybe have a tilt from the right, that might be, that might be beneficial. But you know, the, the largest tech companies are all going to have that left tilting lean just because of where they're located, who they are and, and it's difficult. So we think holding capital from them is one way to do it. Although you know, as, as you said the AI industry and the run in the markets with AI based has been significant and we understand that. And so we're, we're trying to play that AI through using less or less liberal companies to that are that are involved in AI. We're looking at the energy side of this because we think there's going to be a lot of energy opportunities funding AI and funding the major electronic farms that they're going to be creating. So, so we think there are ways to play it without investing in the likes of Google and Meta and others who are big in the AI space.

[John Solomon]

Competition always fixes the economy.

[Co-host (possibly another host or commentator)]

Yeah, absolutely. Tom Carter, American Conservative Values Fund President, thanks so much for being with us tonight.

[Tom Carter]

Appreciate you guys. Thanks for having a great evening.

[Co-host (possibly another host or commentator)]

Likewise. Likewise. John, it seems like every time we have another week of shows we've got another business leader on who is contributing to this parallel economy. It's really amazing to see.

[John Solomon]

It's amazing. We are creating competition, which is exactly how our founding fathers wanted everything to be fixed in an open market.

[Co-host (possibly another host or commentator)]

Well, as he said and as Michael Jordan reportedly said, Republicans buy Nike, they buy sneakers too. All right, everybody, thanks so much for being with us tonight. We'll be back here tomorrow night at 6pM Eastern.

[Amanda Head]

This is an I Heart podcast.