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Just the News No Noise with John Solomon and Amanda Head, October 6th, 2025
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John Solomon
Good evening, America. Happy Monday. Welcome to the latest edition of Just the news. No noise. I'm your host Jaron Solomon reporting to you as always from the nation's capital. And our brand new just the new students. We opened them up on Friday. A lot of news to get to today, some of it really grave. Just a few moments ago, Senator Chuck Grassi confirmed that new documents that FBI director Cash Patel turned over to Congress show that Jack Smith's team used the FBI. I want you to pay attention to this. Jack Smith, the former special prosecutor who went after Donald Trump with multiple indictments, was using the FBI to monitor the phone communications of eight members, eight Republican members of Congress, seven senators, one House member. The House members, Mike Kelly, the seven senators included Lindsey Graham, Ron Johnson, Tommy Tuberville, people who've been on this show many times. Now, there's a separation of powers issue here. There's a real question of whether there was any court authority to do this. They weren't intercepting the communications per se, but the point to point data we're going to have in the second block of the show today, an incredible guest who is used to run the unit that the FBI uses to track those phone calls and mark point to point communications. We're going to get to him. He has been a whistleblower. He's been on the show several Times before Basam Yousef. He is an absolute expert on this. We're going to get to that. And Chris Piotta, the former executive assistant director of the FBI, will join us in the third block. This is a bombshell. The FBI basically spying on Congress in a big way. Eight members. All right, one other thing I want to get to. President Trump's had a up and down day in the courts. In one court in Oregon, a judge is not allowing President Trump to deploy National Guard to Oregon to Portland, where there've been a lot of unrest. But in another court, the President Trump this afternoon got permission from a judge to deploy to Chicago. That is a big win for the president. And just a little bit ago, President Trump teased a big idea. Hey, if this judge won't relent in Oregon, I'm going to evoke the Insurrection act and do it on my own. Amanda, that would be a pretty big moment, a big historical moment. The president is serious about this crackdown. And these courts are kind of all over the map. It's going to be interesting to see if the Supreme Court, Supreme Court gets involved.
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Amanda Head
Yeah. But I got to say, after watching the Summer of Love and Floyd of Palooza and all the destruction that they did, I am so glad that we are finally, finally back in a place where law enforcement is, is quashing it pretty, pretty much at the onset. So I'm glad to see that. But in some other news, I want to start with Harmeet Dillon, who serves as Assistant attorney General for the Justice Department Civil Rights Division. She is a fearless attorney and she is now getting death threats just for doing her job defending Americans and calling out government abuse. She has had to bring in U.S. marshals for protection. Now, Dylan told the press that her staff alerted her to some very concerning replies underneath a post, and they ostensibly came from, or presumably came from California Governor Gavin Newsom's office. So that was quite disturbing to see. And also some country music news. Singer Zach Bryan has a new song out. And I just want to read to you some of the lyrics from that song. And ICE is going to come bust down your door. The fading of the red, white and blue kids are all scared and all alone. So it is absolutely powerful imagery. And for a lot of folks, it crossed the line. Because when you consider the political persecution and violence taking place in this country, it's concerning to see someone with that type of platform as Zach Ryan has as a big country star putting that message out there, vilifying ICE agents who, who, quite frankly, are just doing their jobs. They are enforcing the democratically created laws of this land. So it's unfortunate to see that happening. And then there's the hoopla happening just west of us in Virginia. You know, things are bad for Democrats when folks like Morning Joe, Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski are calling for a fellow Democrat to step down. That is in the attorney general's race in Virginia. So candidate Jay Jones, some text message were released from a few years ago that basically say that he is wanting to shoot twice in the head and urinate on the grave of his opponent's small or on of his opponent and also wish death upon Gilbert's very small children, calling them little fascists and saying that only when people feel pain personally do they move on policy. So again, these were all text messages back from from 2022. And there's been quite a bit of backlash, John. Deservedly so.
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John Solomon
Yeah. And also today, Jerry Dunleavy, our great colleague here at Justin News, had a story about Abigail Spamberger. She's the Democrat nominee for governor. She worked at a Saudi school where a lot of extremists went to. Hamas leader sent his children there. One of the other officials there was connected to Hamas. The Saudi government was funding it and some of its graduates were caught up in terror plots and didn't see anything wrong with it. She actually defends it and kind of celebrates that that was part of her career. I think that's going to be a really big piece of this. All right, I think we have Republican National Committee chairman for Republican National Committee chair Michael Walley now running for the United States Senate. I know, but I don't know if we have him in our ear yet. We may need to do a little bit of communications problems there. Oh, we got it now. There we go. Michael, good to have you on, my friend.
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Michael Walley
It is great to be on with you both.
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John Solomon
All right. Well, first you're running for Senate. I want to get you just to react to this bombshell news that the FBI under Joe Biden's Justice Department thought it was a good idea to spy on the phone calls of members of Congress, seven senators, one House member. You aspire to be there shocked that the FBI would see nothing wrong with that.
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Michael Walley
You know, you run out of expletives to talk about things like this. You can't be shocked anymore. You can't be appalled anymore. You know, it just continues to build when we talk about what the Biden administration, the weaponization of justice and what they did at the Department of Justice to go after President Trump and his Allies and now even folks in the Senate. It is very, very disturbing. And I think it is high time that we had some accountability for these officials that that clearly were violating the Constitution and doing what they did to go after the President Trump, a political opponent in a way we've never seen done in America before.
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Amanda Head
Well, I imagine those with lesser constitutions and less. Fewer, fewer guts, I suppose, would be scared off by this because a lot of these members were in the United States Senate. And you're running for United States Senate. When you look at what you can do, what you can effectuate in the upper chamber on Capitol Hill, I imagine this is something in your crosshairs.
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Michael Walley
Well, it absolutely is. You know, look, the highest priority of a government needs to be protecting its kids in its communities and making sure that law enforcement is being deployed to protect our communities, not to be deployed to go after our political opponents. This is absolutely irresponsible by Joe Biden and his administration. It is absolutely intentional. The way that they went after President Trump is really, truly something that we've never seen before and something that we need to never see again.
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John Solomon
So I want to ask a little bit about your Democrat opponent, Roy Cooper. In an earlier life, he was the governor when Democrats were pushing some of these soft on crime policies. There have been some heinous crimes in both of the Carolinas. Sometimes they even cross borders. What responsibility does Roy Cooper have for that sort of Democratic era of letting the bad guys out in the street so they could hurt the good people in this country?
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Michael Walley
Well, he bears direct responsibility for the crimes that we've been seeing in North Carolina, particularly in Charlotte with the death of Irena Zyrotska, because he's the one who signed an executive order to reimagine law enforcement. He created cashless bail in North Carolina and he set up the revolving door that allowed people like Decarlos Brown Jr. To be arrested and released 14 different times. He is the one who allowed 3,500 convicted felons out of jail. He convicted a number of pardons on his way out the door. And he fought every single day for criminals, not for their victims. In North Carolina.
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Amanda Head
Sir, the case of Roy Cooper in North Carolina is interesting because you have a few other states like Kentucky that had governors like Andy Beshear year where it was a largely red state, but with a blue governor. When it comes to these types of blue governor, just, just Democrats in general who are trying to sell the moderate message, frankly, like Abigail Spanberger is trying to do in Virginia, it seems like something like soft on crime policies. That's going to be one of those issues that separates the wheat from the chaff.
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Michael Walley
It absolutely is. And when we look at Roy Cooper, we can also talk about the fact that, that he vetoed two different bills that would have forced sheriffs to honor ice detainers and get violent criminal illegal aliens out of North Carolina. You know, we can talk about the fact that he vetoed three different bills that would have blocked boys from playing in girls sports or men's from going in to women's locker room. You know, when we talk about the vetoes that he had, you know, for six different times where he vetoed bills that would balance our budget to in North Carolina and cut taxes at the same time. You know, this is a guy who has been radically out of step with North Carolina during his entire tenure as governor. And we need to make sure that the voters of North Carolina understand that this is not an aw shucks Southern blue dog Democrat, that this is a full tilt card carrying member of the progressive caucus.
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John Solomon
Yeah, no, that's it. He's wrapped himself in a different uniform, but he actually has played by the left rules. There's been a lot of discussion over the last few months over will Democrats actually start to read the polls? Will they try to pivot, Will they try to move away from this? It seems to me that in the Carolinas and particularly North Carolina, Cooper's not going to be able to abandon that far left base of his party. How does this affect people? I mean, you just had a record haul for a Senate candidate in a quarter for fundraising. Clearly people are pretty excited about your candidacy. What are you hearing from the people of North Carolina about the Roy Cooper they thought they knew, but maybe he wasn't the same guy?
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Michael Walley
Yeah, look, you know, we're going to run a fairly straightforward campaign. We're going to talk about creating jobs and raising wages. We're going to talk about creating trade policies that will help our manufacturers and our small businesses and our farmers. We're going to talk about keeping our kids in our communities safe and making sure that the soldiers, the men and women in uniform in North Carolina have what they need to protect our interests and allies all around the world. That's the North Carolina values that I'm going to be fighting for every single day. And they are overwhelmingly positive. You know, Roy Cooper is going to be out there pushing every day for California and Illinois and New York values. Those are not the same values that we have here in North Carolina.
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Amanda Head
Would Roy Cooper be the kind of Democrat in the upper chamber who would continue to vote to keep the government shut down.
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Michael Walley
He absolutely would. You know, the thing is that in this race, ultimately, the question for North Carolina voters is, do you want a senator who is going to be an ally for President Trump and fight for North Carolina families and communities, or do you want somebody who's going to oppose President Trump at every turn, who's going to vote for impeachment, he's going to vote for shutdowns, he's going to vote against the America first agenda. He's already said that that is where he's going to be, that he's going to be very loyal to Chuck Schumer, is going to be very loyal to folks like Bernie Sanders and the rest of the Democratic leadership from across the party. That's not what North Carolina supported in the 24 election, or, frankly, the 20 election, or 16. They voted three different times for President Trump. They want to see this agenda move forward.
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John Solomon
Yeah, they do. I want to talk about judges because they've become a major part of the storyline in Washington. We know where Democrats and Republicans are. We know where President Trump is. He's very clear, and that's why the American people voted for him. But judges keep ruling against President Trump, and then as the case moves up the circuit, when it gets to the Supreme Court, it has to get reversed, which means the lower court judges were wrong on the law. What could Congress do to start to rein in these judges who consistently rule in a way that gets them overturned when appellate or Supreme Court justices get involved?
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Michael Walley
Yeah. You know, the first thing is we've got to make sure that President Trump's nominees are going to be confirmed in the Senate. You know, when you think about the effort that he had during his first term to remake the judiciary, to bring in the conservative justices that we have on the Supreme Court, three of them that now help make up that 6, 3 conservative majority. You look at the remaking of the federal districts across the country, there's a lot of work that needs to be done, but we need to make sure that we get his judges confirmed, and that is a direct vote in the United States Senate. Of course, we also need to have, you know, oversight hearings, and we need to have conversations about what is happening across the judiciary and across the country. Frankly, you know, we got to go back to basics. Right. The first priority for the government, for any government, is to protect its citizens. And if they're not going to be willing to do that, then we need to take steps and make sure that they do, sir.
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Amanda Head
Before we let you go, we had many, many conversations with you leading up to the 2024 election about election integrity and making sure that Americans could trust the results last November. As you look forward at your race, are you confident in the state of elections there in North Carolina?
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Michael Walley
Yeah. You know, we put the program together in North Carolina when I was the state party chair that we ultimately exported to all of the battleground states all across the country. The fact is we're going to get the right rules of the road in place before voting starts. We're going to make sure that we have observers and attorneys in every single precinct across the state, and we're going to make sure that everybody understands that, that we are there and we are on the wall. The RNC is fully committed to move forward with that program, even with a new chair, Joe Gruders, who's doing a fantastic job as my replacement. And we will certainly have those programs in place here in North Carolina as well.
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John Solomon
Yeah. Michael Wiley, you changed the course of the North Carolina Republican Party. You changed the course of the Republican National Committee. I got a sneaking suspicion you may change the course of the the U.S. senate in the not so distant future. Great to have you on the show today.
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Michael Walley
It's really good to be on with both of you. Thanks so much.
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John Solomon
Yeah, great honor to have you on, sir. Thanks so much. All right, folks, we'll be right back. When we come back, I mentioned it, former FBI whistleblower, the man who ran the communications analysis unit at the FBI for a very long time. One of the most trusted people I know in the FBI, Basim Yosef, up next right after these messages. Hey, America. The FBI has been warning about a type of real estate fraud on the rise called home title theft. And your equity is the target. Here's how it works. Criminals forge your signature on a single document, use a fake notary stamp and file it with the county. And just like that, boom, they're on record as owning your home, using your ownership. They then take out loans against your record or even sell your property. And you're not going to know about it until you get a foreclosure or collection notice in the mail. And that's not going to be a good moment. That's why I partnered with Home Title Lock, so you can protect your equity. And find out today if you're already a victim, use my promo code, jtn@hometitlelock.com you'll get a free title history report and a free child. Their million dollar triple lock protection that's a great deal. Million bucks to protect your home. That's 247 monitoring of your title records, urgent alerts to any changes. And if fraud occurs, their US Based restoration team will spend up to a million bucks to fix it. Find out why I trust home Teddy Lock. Protect yourself like I did. Don't be a victim. Protect your equity today. Go to hometatalock.com and use that promo code JTN that's hometatalock.com promo code JTN.
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Amanda Head
Welcome back, everybody. As John talked about at the very top of the show, newly declassified documents are confirming what a lot of us susp it all along that the FBI wasn't just looking at January six defendants, they were snooping in on sitting Republican members of Congress of both chambers. According to these documents, Special counsel Jack Smith actually obtained communication those records tied to GOP senators and at least one Republican congressman as part of his investigation into President Trump and the events of that day. So joining us now is retired unit chief in the Federal Bureau of Investigations, Countertop Terrorism Division, a legend in his own right, Bassem Yousef. Bassem, thanks so much for being with us.
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Bassem Yousef
Great to be with you, Amanda. Thank you very much for the kind remarks.
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Amanda Head
Well, we so value your opinion. We've had you on this show and you have weighed in on some very, very important topics. And John described this as grave at the top of the show. And I think that that is probably a proper description of what we are seeing right now. I know just before the show, you were reading the report. What were some of the top lines for you?
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Bassem Yousef
Well, as I mentioned, literally just minutes before John called, I was reading the report and there are several points that just jumped out at me. The first one is you're talking about members of Congress and the Senate. Those are protected entities. This is one of the things that the media has not really focused on with all the, all the overhears that were done during the Biden DOJ and FBI on targets. When you talk about members of Congress or college professors or students, those are highly sensitive targets that demand a higher level of, of predication for, for getting the authority. And so to me, the fact that this was done on just the GOP side of the House is already a big flag. The second is that you mentioned in the report that these were declassified reports. First of all, if they were not under the national security side of the House, this would be a criminal. In other words, these individuals, these members of Congress, are not, are not foreign agents. So they would not be subject to the FISA or to the National Security Letter. In fact, they would be. If they're targets of a phone record authority, it would be done under the Title 3 or the subpoena. And if that's the case, why was it classified? It's not supposed to be classified. Also, the fact that they only requested records from January 4 to January 7 raises a lot of questions in my mind. That's a very short period in general to be going after someone's phone records, or CDRs. They're called detail records. So those are just a couple of things that jumped out at me in addition to a whole lot more. The question is, what was the predication that Jack Smith, you know, put forth in his. In his affidavit for getting this authority?
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John Solomon
Yeah. So for a long time, Basim, you oversaw the Communications Analysis units, one of the most important units in using phone evidence to help solve crimes and stop terror attacks and counterintelligence threats. When you see the CAST system, which is the system for, I guess, the tracking the phone calls, walk us through what Jack Smith likely was looking for, if he was using the cast, the CAST system to figure out what these lawmakers were doing via their phones.
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Bassem Yousef
So the name may have changed. I'm not familiar with the CAST in particular, but I believe that that's just a renaming of the tools that we had when I oversaw the unit from 2005 until 2014, when I retired. So there are two. And I can't get into the details of how we actually acquire the data, but I can tell you that we.
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Mark Morano
Had.
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Bassem Yousef
What I would consider to be toll records on steroids, a tool that would give us access to that kind of data that was not available anywhere else except for the FBI and for the National Security Agency. As we work together on these toll records, those are extremely. Not just sensitive, but very intrusive in terms of the data and the data mining that you would get on the targets without, again, going into details, because that would be sources and methods. I can tell you that the program that was most intrusive was the program that was leaked by Edwin Snowden. And that was a program that we also oversaw in the unit during those years that I was overseeing the unit program. Right. And so that program was specifically designed to go after terrorists, and it was a dragnet to see if there are any terrorist connections to known terrorist targets. The fact that it would be used on other than a terrorism target is already abuse of the program. And I suspect if it was used if the other program that I'm Referring to was also used then that was just as egregious.
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Amanda Head
Bassem. If they had found something that was of interest to them, something that they thought could damage Donald Trump or damage these Republicans or damage the America first agenda, if they had found something that, that indeed did damage the way that they wanted to, how would they have presented that to the American people without having to fess up? Hey, we snooped on their phone records, right?
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Bassem Yousef
That's. That's a very good question, Amanda. And I go back to 2017, when I also briefed the Hill on how this particular program, without mentioning the name of it, can be used in a. In a manner of where you're reverse targeting the subject. So the way that would work is that you're supposed to approach this program with phone numbers that, you know are already bad actors or known targets of, you know, criminal or counterintelligence or counterterrorism matters. And from there, you go and you look at the targets that are in contact with that particular target and to see if any of those could be associated in a criminal manner with the main target. But you're not supposed to look at it the other way. In other words, you're not supposed to go and just to bring this to, to make a little more sense. I know that in the case of Mike Flynn, General Mike Flynn, when they, when they got his records, it was reverse targeted, meaning they already knew his number, they already knew exactly who he was in contact with, and then they looked for a target that is nefarious and started with that. In other words, pretended that they didn't know that Michael Flynn was actually in contact with that target. So that would be the way, or one way that I could imagine they would try to bring this before the American public.
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John Solomon
Yeah. And the reason we don't do that is we don't have general warrants in America. We don't let people go snooping everywhere. You got to have a specific suspicion and allegation. It's credible to do it. I want to ask about one thing. What we know from Senator Grassley's letter today, Basim, is that the FBI was able to give Jack Smith, who. What every person that the lawmaker called, where that lawmaker was when they made the call, where the person was when they're making the call. Now, the window between January 4th and 7th would be the window when Congress was preparing to certify the election, which is clearly a function of Congress. It's actually protected by the Constitution. The separation of powers issue here and the level of data that they were actually gathering on lawmakers. Does it surprise you that nobody stood up and said, wait a second, Congress had a constitutional obligation to certify the election. Should we be really looking at this data?
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Bassem Yousef
John, you literally just answered my question succinctly. The question that I asked earlier, the peculiarity of January 7 through January, January 4 through January 7 was very peculiar because it's a very short period of time. But the fact that that was the period that you were talking about answers that question. Meaning it was already disingenuous that they were looking for records just for that period.
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John Solomon
Yeah, it's just amazing. And the location data, the fact that they would know where every person was making the call, plus who they talked to, that would be, that would give them a lot of leads and might sweep up innocent people into the sweep, right?
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Bassem Yousef
Absolutely. And the fact that they did have that, that data, the geolocation, again, that would require a much higher threshold of authority than just a simple national security letter or a, or an admin subpoena. So they must have had some other predication. And if, if, if, if Congress or the investigators would look at that, if DOJ looks at this right now, they will see that there would have to have been false information in that request.
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John Solomon
That's going to be so important. So many more questions.
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Amanda Head
Awesome. Yousef, you are a national treasurer. Your contributions to, to the FBI and protecting American citizens is unparalleled. Thank you so much for being here and it's an honor.
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Bassem Yousef
Thank you so much, Amanda. Thank you, John.
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Amanda Head
Absolutely.
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John Solomon
What a great guy.
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Amanda Head
All right, everybody, we're gonna take a very quick break and we'll be back after these messages.
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John Solomon
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Chris Piotta
John, thank you. Pleasure to be with you and Amanda this evening.
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John Solomon
All right, so this clearly is going to fall into a very sensitive matter inside the FBI. If the FBI is asked to look at the phone convert or phone records, at least who's talking to who and where are they when they're making the phone calls, it obviously involves separation of powers. It obviously involves what they call special interest parties. Tell us what probably going on at the top of the FBI. What sort of things would the FBI need Jack Smith to do before the FBI would be comfortable grabbing these records on members of Congress?
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Chris Piotta
Well, if you're looking at a matter like this, this matter is going to be approved and reviewed and scrutinized at the highest levels of the FBI and the Department of Justice. When you're looking at conducting electronic surveillance on our national leaders, so you have to look at that level of review and scrutiny. As far as where Jack Smith comes in, he had to probably show adequate predication with his investigative work that he was able to convince the FBI and Department of justice to go and obtain these records. So I'd love to see what the predication was and I'd love to see how it was presented and who approved and knew of these actions prior to the implementation.
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John Solomon
In a normal world, would Chris Wright have to weigh in on something this sensitive? Absolutely.
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Chris Piotta
He would have been briefed on it and he would have given his concurrence.
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John Solomon
No doubt that's what we think.
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Amanda Head
I want to ask you about the protections that should be in place because our founding fathers were obviously very serious about separation of powers and making sure that there were guardrails in practically everything. But when you consider a case like this, where the special counsel very clearly had a political bent, and by the way, so does the FBI director at the time, how do you protect against that?
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Chris Piotta
Well, I think what you have to do is as the investigative agency, the office of General Counsel, the senior leadership, and everyone has to be able to look at what is the expected outcome for this investigative effort. What are you trying to find? And, and what type of predication do you have to ask for these type of records? Those are very basic things that have to be looked at in this instance. I would certainly hope, but I am not hopeful, that folks weren't looking at this from a political angle and they allowed their personal ideologies to possibly sway decision making. So I haven't read the predication directly, but I'd like to see what it said to justify that type of coverage.
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John Solomon
Yeah, that's key. That's got to be the next document we got to get from the FBI. We don't have that yet, but that is an important one. Chris, I want to talk about something else that happened this week. And I grew up in a family of cops, and I used to have DEA FBI agents sleeping on my couch at our house. And there was a brotherhood that when an officer was in need, everybody responded. There were no if, ands, or buts, no hesitation. You went all in to protect your, your fellow policemen and policewomen. This weekend we saw a disturbing act where ICE agents were under attack. Cars were cornering them in. They're calling for backup. And according to the reports, and now the police union confirms it in Chicago, Chicago police were told not to help their brethren in the federal level in, in harm's way. Have you ever seen something like this before?
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Chris Piotta
Not, not at this level. I could see where people would be reluctant to do certain things, but they always came to the aid of fellow law enforcement officers. It doesn't matter federal, state, local, if a federal. If a law enforcement officer was in danger or in need of help, everybody responds immediately. And I, it was, I was disgusted and just so demoralized by seeing that from the chain of command at the Chicago Police Department, I, I can't believe we're at this state of political and ideological division that our law enforcement folks have a damaged culture that allowed them to decline a request for assistance.
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John Solomon
Yeah, you said it right, Chris.
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Amanda Head
I think that for a lot of Americans, the concern is that Chicago is not isolated. There are plenty of other blue cities out there. And you know, John and I are both very, very strong advocates for law enforcement. And we back the blue. But, you know, we are humans. Humans are fallible and policemen and women are also fallible. So the fact that these police departments are made up of the demographics of their city, so Chicago, Portland, Philadelphia, Baltimore, it kind of gives you some insight into the, the philosophies of these police officers. So do you think that there are other departments across this country where if they are given a stand down order or do not respond order to another officer in distress, they're going to listen?
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Chris Piotta
I think we're at a point where, disappointingly, I believe that you'll see this again in some of those more deep blue environments. If I can add one thing on the previous discussion, I'd also like to see what the expected outcome was because generally when you do toll record analysis, you're looking for predication for a more intrusive, direct electronic intercept of communications. So I'd like to see what their investigative strategy was on that for that Special counsel.
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John Solomon
Yeah, let me follow up on that. Because if there was no follow up, that might suggest that the initial inquiry was frivolous or didn't really result in much. Right.
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Chris Piotta
It may have come up with an absence of additional information or additional predication that would warrant a more intrusive intercept of the actual content of the calls. Generally, when you do a toll record analysis, you're looking to establish time, date, place, who, what, where, when, and you're looking at networks of people who communicate with each other on a regular basis, periodic basis. Or you're looking for a triggering event where you. We used to see this in the terrorism world. You'd see a phone call made, it only lasted three seconds, but it was made at certain intervals where you knew it was more of a triggering call. It wasn't a direct communication call, just things like that. They would look for tradecraft real quickly.
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John Solomon
I've read your book many times to remind myself of the FBI of a different era. The Chris. I mean, we all look at the Comey era and I think there's widespread agreement that James Comey failed as an FBI director. But the Chris Wray era is starting to look a lot more uncomfortable. Whether it's targeting Catholics, parents, members of Congress is Chris Reid. Perhaps the next person that Congress will take a deep dive on in doing oversight.
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Chris Piotta
I think they're going to have to look at some of the activities and the motivations or lack thereof of some of the actions that were taken and what were the FBI investigators looking to accomplish and where were the orders given from and who were the authorizing parties?
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John Solomon
Yeah. So very important. Your book I go to often, Chris. It is an incredible treasure as we try to cover this extraordinary time. You've done a great work. Thanks so much for joining us. And give us your expert analysis time. It was great. All right, folks, we'll take yeah. What a great, what a great conversation.
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Chris Piotta
All right.
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John Solomon
We'll take a quick commercial break. When we come back, flu seasons upon us. Guess what? We got one of the best to talk to us about it. Dr. Paul Freedom of Coliseum, up next right after these messages.
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Amanda Head
Welcome back, everybody. As the temperatures start to drop, Americans are bracing for what experts warn could be one of the toughest flu seasons in years. Oh my. Oh, my. Doctors say. Yeah. Doctors say that this year's strain could hit harder and spread faster. So what can you do to protect yourself and your family from getting sick? Joining us now to talk about all of that, he is world renowned doctor and chief scientific officer at the Wellness Company. He also is the author of the new book Vaccines, Mythology, ideology and Reality, Dr. Peter McCullough. Dr. McCullough, thanks so much for being here.
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Dr. Peter McCullough
Thank you.
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Amanda Head
I knew without even looking at my weather forecast because I got a couple marketing messages today from two separate major pharmaceutical chains in this country, both recommending that I go rush run, go get the flu shot. Is it necessary?
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Dr. Peter McCullough
It's really not. Remember, influenza is respiratory illness. It starts in the nose and the throat. So your first line of defense is a nasal spray and gargle twice a day. I think you should do it year long, certainly during flu season. There are many products out there. My favorites are actually clear xlear than the gargle spray. But you can use immune mist, Cofix, Rx, Neomed, and the list goes on and on. But make sure you're using a nasal spray and gargle twice a day. You're out and about for sure. It should be done. You know, that has the greatest reduction in the risk of influenza and other viruses far more than a vaccine. Now, if one contracts influenza, there are four FDA approved antiviral drugs. They work best, start at day one. So it means have them on hand. You can do that with the Wellness Company Contagion kit. The available generics are Tamiflu and then Ofluza. The other ones are IV that you get in a clinic and the chances of any adult getting influenza, way less than 1%. But if it happens, be ready with early treatment.
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John Solomon
Yeah, that's the key, Sarah. There's. We've had the flu around for so long and it always seems mystifying to me that beyond the vaccine, the other things, the preventative care like gargling or the therapeutics early on, they, they seem to fall by the wayside as a better option. Why is it there's a bias against those two interventions, which by the way, have a higher record of success long term?
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Dr. Peter McCullough
You know, it's whether you take a vaccine or not. Remember, the vaccines have way less than, than 50% efficacy. So, you know, in most studies, the majority of people who get flu have taken the vaccine. So they're actually following the recommendations for the vaccine. It's just that they're not very effective. So I think our public health messaging should change to practical things. Nasal sprays and gargles, having some medication kits at home, the pre prescribed antiviral, secondary antibiotics if needed. You know, Americans need to do better than just take a vaccine. That's been the public health messaging now for decades. And hopefully if the new team in place, we'll start to see a focus on, you know, practical other preventive measures in early treatment.
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Amanda Head
So important. Ever since COVID we all have learned about ivermectin. It has become a topic of conversation, a topic of controversy, frankly, during COVID But now I understand that there is a topical application of it for some skin issues. What is that about?
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Dr. Peter McCullough
Well, sure, you know, topical ivermectin has been around for a while, but it works great for acne. Some people develop that pitting acne, typically women more than men. There's papillopustular rosacea. We've even found some post Covid and post vaccine skin rash syndromes that are responsive. So topical ivermectin is really good to have around. It's available from the wellness company. And you know, ivermectin was the best spinoff from the pandemic. It's something that turns out to be a very versatile drug that has so many different applications. We should have spinoffs after a major human event like the pandemic.
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John Solomon
Wow. So if you have a rash that you haven't seen, seen before or if you have consistent rosacea, those are two things that ivermectin could be useful in treating.
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Dr. Peter McCullough
Oh, for sure. I had a patient the other day who, you know, through the pandemic now just has this relentless acne and it does have a rosacea pattern to it, and I prescribed it and it's working fine.
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John Solomon
That's amazing. Wow. All right, so how do we get ivermectin from the wellness company? Because you have it in the topical cream. It's really simple, Right?
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Dr. Peter McCullough
Right. There's multiple products. You can get the ivermectin cream. Ivermectin with benbenazole is an antiparasitic. You can get straight up ivermectin. You sign up on the wellness company. You do have to go through some checks with the doctor. It's pretty rapid. Make sure everything is prescribed the right way and then prescribe it. And we've got now several pharmacies can get it out within a few days. And I think people will find this is far better than trying to go to an urgent care and clicking in and going through all the stuff steps and then trying to get it at a local pharmacy. Just go to the wellness company, TWC Health, and then promo code. Justthenews.
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John Solomon
That's great. We love it.
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Amanda Head
Dr. McCullough, ever since COVID the vaccine schedule has been a topic of conversation. And I mean, it's been a very, very stressful issue, especially for parents considering vaccines for their children. That all falls under the umbrella of medical freedom. My concern is that we've moved into a medical eco ecosystem where doctors are a part of a system, some type of corporate hospital system. So it's very hard for them to break away and offer advice to their patients that they feel in their gut is the right thing to do rather than following the messaging of the corporation. How many of these independent family doctors who are detached from a hospital system, how many of them are there left in this country? And how do we get back to that?
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Dr. Peter McCullough
Probably fewer than 5%. Association of American Physicians, Physician and Surgeons is one group of those independent doctors. They keep a roster, a nationwide roster. So if you go to AAPsonline.org, you can look at that roster. You know, I just spoke actually at one of the health freedom caucuses in Ohio, and they're putting it into law that doctors, no matter what their employment status, they ought to be able to freely give their opinion and not be constrained by their employer. Can you imagine if we had employers from all the lawyers and all the plumbers and that we couldn't get different opinions when it comes to medicine, law, home improvement, you name it, There are always multiple opinions and everyone deserves the chance to get a second opinion, not just get a corporate narrative.
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Amanda Head
Absolutely. So important. Dr. Peter McCullough, world renowned Dr. And chief scientific officer over at the Wellness Company. Thank you so much for joining us tonight. And to our audience, head over to TWC Health Just News today. You can use the promo code just News. That's TWC Health Just News and use promo code Just News. We're going to be right back on the other side of this break.
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John Solomon
Welcome back, America. Last week we had a chance to talk to the great Mark Morano, but both the technical gods and some breaking news got in the way. We never really got going on that interview and I didn't want to miss it out. He always brings us extraordinary news from his great work at the Climate Depot. Joining us now, our good friend Mark Marano. Mark, good to have you on.
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Michael Walley
Very good.
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Mark Morano
Thank you for having me, John.
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John Solomon
Appreciate it. We love having you. I felt jipped last week. So this is good. We get a second, we get a sequel. It's awesome. All right. I want to dig right into the issue that I think is right in front of us right now. We have incredible empirical evidence that the trillions of dollars we spent on green energy didn't give us really any benefit. And now you have an administration with a shutdown, government able to pull a lot of funds back. How big an opportunity is this for the Trump White House to get rid of the rest of the money that's just not yielding any benefit to the American public?
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Mark Morano
Yeah, well, we're talking the Inflation Reduction act and the whole green New Deal agenda. I don't know. I think estimates were 50, 60% they were able to claw back now and the courts stopped them from doing any more. Well, now with this shutdown, he's already got 8 billion in climate funding to blue states, 18 billion in federal funding for New York City, another 8 billion to the other climate agenda. So this is an opportunity that, you know, Chuck Schumer and others may have wished they didn't give Donald Trump. They made. This is like resurrecting Doge except in an unexpected and surprising way that could be very effective. And I don't know if you saw, but beyond Lombard did an analysis showing that the entire green agenda, this is the United nations, this is globally, is so ineffective that we're not on pace to eliminate fossil fuels. You always hear people talk about the fossil free world. China is on pace by the year 2431 to eliminate it. And the globally. We're not, we're not, we're not on a pace for four centuries and it's 2392, nearly four centuries. And so Donald Trump, by defunding the Inflation Reduction act, we could be causing, you know, it could be 20, 2402 by the time we're fossil, fossil free without fossil fuels because of Donald Trump. It just goes to show you this is nonsense. You have Boris, I was about to say Boris Yeltsin, Boris Johnson, the UK Prime Minister finally admit today that he had gone too far, far with the whole green agenda. He got carried away by the net zero agenda. Everyone got every.
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Michael Walley
He didn't get carried away.
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Mark Morano
He said he went too far. He shouldn't have taken the first step. And that's the problem. It's kind of like in Cobalt, we went too far with lockdowns. But no, you never should have had it. We went too far, Mass. We held math. No, you never should have had him. But at least he's admitting it. But, you know, it's such a minor admission, but still, it's being defrauded around the world. The fraud, fraud is being exposed. No one can hold the glue together anymore.
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Amanda Head
Yeah, well, and mark on that, because President Trump has a little more than three years left in his administration, is now the time to seize the opportunity to perform and put out the results of studies that prove that the whole climate change, the green agenda is absolutely absurd. I'm not saying it can't ever be good. But as far as right now, as far as our infrastructure, as far as our capabilities, it can happen right now. But, you know, we were not really allowed to have these conversations under Joe Biden. So is now the time for the Trump administration to really push these studies so that maybe folks on the woo woo left about this will be like, all right, so there's a decent study. Maybe we can reel it in a little.
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Mark Morano
Yeah, I mean, absolutely. Now is the time. Anything in the year 2025 is better than the year 2026. Once you get into midterm elections, it all collapses. As a veteran of, you know, Ronald Reagan, he had to two first years of amazing stuff. Then the congressional and Senate Democrats in 1982 made huge gains and then they had to do a whole bipartisan thing. He gets reelected and he had another two years. It's so fleeting as a president now, the Republicans could hold on to the House next in the Senate House next year, but we'll see. But why take a chance? Now is the time for him to rush everything through. And I love the way Trump addressed the UN and they're talking about sending a delegation to COP 30, the UN climate summit. I hope that if they did send a delegation, they go down there and condemn the whole thing the way Trump condemned it. If not, I'll be down at cop 30. You know, I'd be happy to be the unofficial US delegation if Donald Trump doesn't want to send one. But this is the time. Now's where you cut. Now's when you do all the deregulation, because any delay, there is no. You're never guaranteed of a tomorrow in a presidential administration in terms of actually being effectively able to do anything.
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John Solomon
I would pay to be in the front row to watch you be the lead of that delegation. That would be a lot of fun. Mark Morano, great to have you on the show today. Thanks for joining us, my friend.
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Mark Morano
All right. Thank you, John. Appreciate it.
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John Solomon
Oh, my gosh. That was fun. Amanda, we talk about weaponization today. It was going after your enemy. Sometimes it's protecting your friends. That's the other half of weaponization. Tomorrow, tune in. We're gonna have an exclusive story about how intelligence could the protective Joe and Hunter Biden on Ukraine. Be sure to tune in tomorrow night. You're not going to want to miss it. Until then, we have the baton to the one and only.
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Bassem Yousef
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