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Congresswoman Erin Houching
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John Solomon
Good evening, America, and welcome to the Accountability Thursday edition of Just the news. No noise. I'm going to explain in a second what I mean by that. Let's get the formalities out of the way first. I'm your host John Solomon, reporting to you as always from the nation's Capital in Washington, D.C. just a few moments ago, word broke on Just the News that Letitia James, the top law enforcement official in the state of New York, yet the attorney general, was indicted for bank fraud related to her mortgages in a Virginia home she bought a couple of years ago, is a story we've chronicled for the last six months here at Just the News. Today, some accountability. Second big indictment in two weeks for Attorney General Pam Bondi and FBI Director Cash Patel's hard work on both of those cases. Meanwhile, peace is breaking out in the Middle East. That is an amazing thing to say. That's something we haven't said for a long time. President Donald Trump spoke quite a bit today about the peace deal he's putting together between Israel and Hamas, and the president sounded pretty optimistic about it. He's also planning to visit Israel this upcoming Sunday to make sure everything goes according to plan. Now, a huge part of the deal is going to be the release of the remaining hostages. Hamas took more than 200 people hostage on October 7, 2023. They've been in captivity for more than two years, and Hamas has released some of them over the last few years, but not all. The president addressed that in that part of the deal from the Oval Office earlier today. Take a listen to what he had to say.
President Donald Trump
The hostages were be coming back Monday or Tuesday. I'm probably, I'll probably be there. I hope to be there. And we're planning on leaving sometime Sunday, and I look forward to it. And everybody I see is celebrating in Israel, but they're celebrating in many other countries, too. A lot of the Muslim and Arab countries, they're celebrating. Everybody celebrating. Everybody loves the deal. So it's great honor to have been working on it. And as you know, it's all finalized and done.
John Solomon
All finalized and done. Eight Pete Sales in eight months. Scores of hostages in the first eight months of President Trump's term already released and more certainly on the way with this deal. It's a big moment for Israel and the wider Middle east region as well. If the deal sticks and the president still doesn't win the Nobel Peace Prize tomorrow, I'm sure we're going to have a lot to talk about. Meanwhile, the government Shutdown drags on to its ninth day. No surprise there. Democrats and Republicans no closer to a deal than they were last week when the shutdown went in effect. Why? Because Democrats want to make sure they get that money for illegal immigrant health care. That's what it's all about. In fact, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer was quoted today in a recent interview saying about the shutdown, every day gets better for us. Just think about that. They're celebrating a shutdown while you, the American people, are suffering. While that message didn't go over too well here in Washington and Republicans spoke out about it, here's House Majority Leader Steve Scalies talking about that just a little bit ago yesterday.
House Majority Leader Steve Scalise
Chuck Schumer, of course, says, quote, every day this gets better for us. So you've got to ask yourself if you're Chuck Schumer in a good day for you is defined by how much suffering you can impose on other people, including our men and women in uniform. Maybe you need to look in the mirror and check yourself at the door and wonder what it is you're up here trying to accomplish. Is that really why Chuck Schumer ran for office, to inflict pain on other people so that he can have a good day, a better day?
Kelly Walker
Yeah.
John Solomon
What an amazing thing, Amanda, this morning I was out at the Bible museum. I met a couple National Guardsmen and guardswomen out protecting us here. Oh, free from working for free. Hey, we want a cup of coffee. We can't afford it right now. I got it. But that's the sort of people that Chuck Schumer thinks are the perfect pawns for him to make a political score. Remarkable statement he made.
Kelly Walker
Yeah.
Amanda
You know, and they're too classy and gracious to say anything to his face, but I'd say they better get the government back up and running before he comes face to face with any of those National Guards. But anyway, John, I want to get to an article that I have over@justthenews.com of course. And it highlights a new CBS News YouGov poll showing that 52% of Americans believe that President Donald Trump is keeping his campaign promises. The poll also produced another approval rating in the 40th percentile for the fourth 47th president at 43% favorable. That is the most consistent favorability rating of any president in history at this point in his presidency. So despite facing intense criticism for policies like aggressive immigration enforcement, including an accelerated deportation schedule, tariff expansions, and the reduction of federal agencies, obviously evidenced by protests in California against ICE operations, Trump's circumstances second term has delivered pretty notable economic and security dividends. The US economy has gained 671,000 jobs since January, exceeding forecasts for four straight months, with core inflation holding steady at 2.1%, the lowest since his first term. Blue collar wages have surged at a rate unseen in nearly six decades. And private investments exceeding $8.8 trillion have flooded into our nation. That's a course fueled by $192 billion in tariff revenue. And that's not to mention the border getting fortified with illegal crossings, dropping 96% with a record low of approximately 8,000 per month. So you can read much more about that over@just the news.com but all signs are pointing to President Trump having a pretty successful start to his first term. And one more quick thing to get to. President Trump earlier today signed a proclamation honoring Columbus Day, which has been under attack by some on the left. Here was that moment, in other words.
President Donald Trump
We'Re calling it Columbus Day.
Sebastian Gorka
Yes.
President Donald Trump
That was the press that broke out in applause. I've never seen that happen. The press actually broke out in applause.
Sebastian Gorka
Good.
President Donald Trump
Columbus Day, we're back. Columbus Day, we're back.
Amanda
Italians, a deserving recognition of the day. And Italian Americans, I'm sure, are very excited about it.
John Solomon
I know one in New York that is Joe Piscobo. My good friend was just celebrating this morning.
Shannon Davis
I knew he knew it was great.
Congresswoman Erin Houching
He's great.
John Solomon
Well, we're very lucky tonight to be joined by someone on the front lines of that incredible debate in Congress. Republicans are there trying to get the government open feud, the American people, Democrats trying to score some points. Joining us now from the great state of Indiana, one of my favorite states, Congresswoman Erin Houching. Congresswoman, great to have you here.
Congresswoman Erin Houching
Thank you so much. Great to be with you.
John Solomon
Yeah. Great honor to have you here in the new studios. Let me start off with Chuck Schumer. He said it out loud. We could score some political points. We'll punish the American people. Your reaction to what he was thinking?
Congresswoman Erin Houching
Unbelievable. Actually, every time I think they can't say something worse, they step on themselves again. And Chuck Schumer did that today, told the American people exactly what they're up to, said the quiet part out loud. Every day we're shut down, it gets better for us. He thinks, thinks it's getting better politically, but it's not. It's actually going to backfire on them in a big way. Yeah.
Amanda
And Congresswoman, we've talked about this, you know, in past cycles when there has been a shutdown Even when evidence to the contrary, Republicans typically get blamed. But it doesn't seem like that's not the zeitgeist right now. The zeitgeist right now is frankly what Chuck Schumer said. I mean that whole attitude surrounding that the Democrats are, you know, it's okay if the American people are suffering right now as long as we get our health care for illegal immigrants. And I know you dug into the numbers on this, you dug into the lexicon in the legislation. Tell us what you found.
Congresswoman Erin Houching
Yeah, so I wanted to investigate the Democrats claims that this, that's something somehow not true, that the Democrats want to fund health care for illegal immigrants. Even though Maxine Waters herself said that that is part of the plan in a 1996 law, it was passed, that if you are an asylee or a refugee, you get health care taxpayer funded benefits immediately upon entry to the United States. If you're a parolee, you get it within five years. So think of the millions of people that the Biden administration let across the southern border. Technically they're not illegal immigrants, they're parolees, they're asylees and refugees because Biden gave them that status and that's what gives them the key to these taxpayer funded health care benefits. We turned off the spigot, we turned off the light bulb, we closed those loopholes in the one big beautiful bill. The Democrats now want to reopen them and that's what their last stand on the government shutdown is over. Turning back on the spigot and the light bulb to provide health care for illegal immigrants, putting them over their own American citizens.
John Solomon
Best explanation I've heard to date.
Amanda
Absolutely.
John Solomon
That's exactly how it happened. We did a lot of reporting on it. It's amazing. I want to turn to something else. I think for years people say where is the accountability? Where's the accountability? In two weeks we had James Comey indictment. Letitia James, your reaction to the news today?
Congresswoman Erin Houching
Finally, right. My constituents have been saying where is the accountability? I'm so grateful to this administration, to FBI Director Kash Patel, to Pam Bondi for bringing this accountability, this weaponization of the federal government against conservatives, against President Trump. I'm glad that they're finally getting their due because what goes around comes around. And if they're going to engage in aggressive prosecution, they should not be immune from that. And I think, you know, certainly the evidence shows that Letitia James is culpable, innocent until proven guilty. But I think the evidence is going to be on the side of the FBI in this case. And I'm grateful that we're finally seeing some accountability.
Amanda
Absolutely. What do you say to your constituents? Because I have no doubt in my mind that you and every other Republican member of Congress is going to have protesters when you're out at town halls and campaigning for next year, people who say, well, President Trump is just going after his political enemies. What do you say?
Congresswoman Erin Houching
Well, there's actual evidence in these cases against his, the people who came after him. There was no evidence in these cases against President Trump and we saw that over and over again with the number of cases that he had to fight. That was really a mechanism for political power. The Democrats are desperate to be back in charge and they'll do anything because their policies to promote transgender surgeries on minors, to have men and girls sports, to have illegal immigration to the levels that we've never seen before, these are all mechanisms to try to control and regain power. Because their policies are so bad and.
John Solomon
So unpopular, it's remarkable to see where they are. As part of that effort to keep power. We learned something pretty remarkable. The Democrats were spying on members of Congress. Eight senators, one House member, all Republican. No surprise there. The idea that the FBI could rifle through the phone records of lawmakers who were doing their constitutionally protected duty certifying election and to do it with Jack Smith at the helm, I know that's really angered a lot of your colleagues, right?
Congresswoman Erin Houching
Absolutely. I mean we are a member of the legislative body, we are elected representatives. We should be at least notified when, when, if we're the subject of an investigation. This was all done without knowledge to any member of the Senate or the House. It's absolutely egregious that that could happen from a weaponized arm of our government. It's treasonous, really. It violates the separation of powers and we should be very terrified. If they will do that to U.S. senators and members of Congress, imagine what they'll do to the American people.
Amanda
Right.
John Solomon
Scary stuff.
Amanda
As you look forward to next November for Republicans keep and possibly expanding the majority, I know in your mind you've probably got an agenda, a list of priorities, of things, steps that need to happen in order for that to happen. For you guys to expand that majority, what needs to be checked off?
Congresswoman Erin Houching
Well, I will say that having the Democrats shut down the government to in a, in a last stand to make health care available, taxpayer funded benefits for illegal immigrants, that's probably helpful for you guys, that's really helpful and I think it will be helpful. But we're going to be focused on promoting all of these great things that President Trump has done in just a few short months. He's ended seven wars in a few short months. Peace through strength, restoring law and order in our cities across America. We're going to be touting all of the successes of President Trump and with the help of House and Senate Republicans. And I think the American people will respond. The Democrats are out, out in a wasteland right now. And honestly, it's deserving because they didn't lose, learn anything from the last election. We're going to continue to build on our successes and make sure that the American people are put first. And I think that will show at the ballot box.
John Solomon
When I was a young reporter, I got to attend the White House the day that Arafat and Sharon shook hands and we thought peace was going to break out in the Middle East. It didn't get there. But now we really do have a peace deal, and it looks like it's going to have a ripple effect, maybe Abraham accords 2.0. Your thoughts on what the next few months may bring to a region that's had conflict for so long?
Congresswoman Erin Houching
Well, I'm so grateful to President Trump's leadership. He is really the single only person, I think, that could make this happen, to bring these two sides together again. So much, so many peace deals over the course of just a few short months. It's going to be an incredible achievement that I think, as other world leaders have said, there's no one else that could have done it. It's a remarkable and incredible day. I'm happy for the people in Israel and to get these hostages home, that this conflict might end. And it really took the leadership of a strong president, one that we've not seen in my lifetime, certainly, to get something like this accomplished. It's monumental. And he does deserve the Nobel Peace Prize.
Amanda
And I want to ask you this because, I mean, his ability to bring sides together across the globe is now well known. I think he's also bringing sides together, at least within the Republican caucus here at home. I spoke to one of your colleagues a few days ago, and he credited President Trump's strength and leadership for actually congealing the Republican caucus. Because this time a few years ago, we were talking about the America first wing and the establishment wing of Republicans, and everybody's kind of infighting. But the fact that you guys got the one big, beautiful bill done and you were standing behind President Trump codifying policy after policy, to me, that says that he's not only a peacemaker abroad, he's a peacemaker up on Capitol Hill.
Congresswoman Erin Houching
Well, we've certainly seen our fair share of conflict within the Republican caucus. We have five different families within our Republican conference. It's a very, it's a lot of diversity of thought. And it does take President Trump's strong leadership to kind of get everybody rowing in the same direction. He's been working hand in hand with Speaker Johnson and our leadership team with Leader Scalise and our whip, Tom Emmer and our conference chair, Lisa McClain, really to get us all focusing on the same goal. Every time the liberal media said we couldn't do it, we did. We're going to keep winning. And for one am grateful that to have a leader so strong as President Trump, as a member of the House to help us to corral all of our different groups into the right direction.
John Solomon
Yeah. So remarkable, the art of the deal. His deal making works from Gaza all the way to the Washington steps of power. It's amazing. Congresswoman, what a great honor to have you on the show. Thanks for joining us here today. And I got a lot of work ahead of you, but thanks for being there. Was really great.
Congresswoman Erin Houching
Thanks for having me.
John Solomon
All right, folks, we're going to take.
Sebastian Gorka
A quick commercial break.
John Solomon
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Congresswoman Erin Houching
Foreign.
Amanda
Welcome back, everybody. President Trump is doing his best to end conflicts and wars around the globe. And he'll be heading to the Middle east this week after he announced that this first stage of the Israel Hamas peace deal has been agreed to by both sides. So that is excellent news for all parties involved. He's also looking to quell political violence here at home as we are also seeing a lot of that coming from the left towards the right in the wake of Charlie Kirk's decision assassination. So joining us now to talk about all of that and more is the Deputy Assistant to the President, Senior Director for Counterterrorism at the National Security Council, and our good friend, Sebastian Gorka. Sir, thanks so much for being here.
Sebastian Gorka
My pleasure. Great to be back with you guys. It's been too long.
Amanda
It has indeed, sir. I was, I was just kind of scanning all the information I was putting into an article about past presidents who have won the Nobel Peace Prize. And for most of them, it's one or maybe a couple different accomplishments. For President Trump, it's one a month since March. Eight in eight months, right?
Sebastian Gorka
Yeah. It's truly remarkable. I always tell people it's a dream, it's a fantasy come true to run counterterrorism for the most consequential president of the modern age. But then you compare it to everything else he's done, whether it's tariffs, building the wall, revitalizing NATO, and then, as you said, one peace deal per month for eight months. If a president has one peace deal in a four year term, that's good.
Congresswoman Erin Houching
Two.
Sebastian Gorka
Wow. Historic. But one a month with historic conflicts like Rwanda, Thailand, like Armenia, Azerbaijan. And then this one yesterday, that iconic photograph of Mayambios Acting National Security Advisor Marco Rubio leaning over to the President during that briefing on antifa history, caught in a snapshot. And then the photograph of the note that Marco gave to the President saying, we need you, sir, we're on the cusp of a deal. Come now. And then, as you said, Florida flying off to the Middle east momentarily to sign something that could change the reality on the ground that has been a benighted region for 3,000 years. That's President Trump. Remarkable. He better get, I don't know, eight Nobel Peace Prizes for just the first year.
John Solomon
It is remarkable. Tell us what to expect this weekend as this peace plan unfolds in historic proportions. Upon president seems like he may be going to the region. What should we be all looking for for the next signs that this is rolling along smoothly?
Sebastian Gorka
Well, it's very clear this is the nice thing about this deal. It's not behind closed doors, terms that we don't know. The President has actually said what he said. 20 points, public points, anyone can read them right now. But the first thing and this is the thing that makes life here in this building even more stupendous. I can't tell you, John, when people heard not only that we have a deal, but that the first point is the return of all hostages, Israeli and American, alive and the corpses of those who were killed in captivity. I can't tell you, John, the number of messages, because hostages fall under my mandate as senior director for counterterrorism. I know all these families. I was with them on the anniversary of October 7th just a few days ago. And to get all the messages, the tearful photographs of them celebrating last night. So I'm not going to say anything else about what to expect because that's the President's glory. But number one out of the 20, all hostages. And that assure you, since day one, God bless. I not said it confirmed. I started work at 1201. On January 20, I was given a number one priority, not just to kill jihadists who have America on their hands, but to bring back every single hostage. So that's what you can expect at the beginning of the depots, John.
Amanda
Well, and President Trump has made it so clear that he just wants the killing to end. It's not necessarily the credit that he would get from it. He just wants lives to be saved. And ultimately that's what's happening here. But, Seb, you know, any for the three of us, we walk outside practically anywhere in Washington and we hear chants. A free, free Palestine. If this is ultimately successful in its rollout and its original intent to free all parties involved, do you think that the free, free Palestine crowd is going to give President Trump for free, freeing Palestine?
Sebastian Gorka
Yeah, I'm sure you've seen the meme. Hopefully you guys can put it up on the screen. I didn't repost it. You know, I'm a deputy to the President. But. But what I saw last night is, you know, the angry, crazy, antifa type meme screaming for Palestine. And then there's a picture of the President saying, I did.
Kelly Walker
I did.
Sebastian Gorka
So what are they going to scream now? I mean, this is the thing. You demanded it in outrageous ways. You talked about from the river to the sea, genocidal chance from Cambridge, Mass. To the buried campus, but president actually did it. And to your first point, Amanda, people need to understand whether it's, you know, war torn Ukraine, whether it's Gaza, whether it's the killing fields of central Africa, the only priority he has is to stop killing. He is truly a president of peace because his number one priority is to stop the killing.
John Solomon
What a record he's already ran up in just the first few months. Said, I want to turn to yesterday's event. You're right. That photo with Marco Rubio was so remarkable. It's iconic. It's like the handshake at the White House two decades ago. But that event itself was amazing. The conversation that was going on, the realization that young people know what ANTIFA is and it needs to be stopped before it ruins this country in western society. Already the President has designated a domestic terrorism organization. Do you think that gets upsized at some point as the proof comes into an international terrorism organization which gives the Justice Department, FBI even more tools to go after it?
Sebastian Gorka
So look, incredible for me, I wasn't at that meeting. I live in a skiff, we call it skiff life here at the White House doing classified stuff. So I walked out here onto the North Lawn as the meeting ended with the President, with, with Pam, with cash, with Stephen Miller. And the guests came out and literally I met them just there. Friends of mine, Nick Sauder, Andy Ngo, to have them find platform to tell the truth of the violence, the intimidation against them. I'm not going to steal any of Steve's thunder, Steve Miller's, but just again, look it up for yourselves. The primary sources. ANTIFA has been an international terrorist organization since its inception in Germany shortly after World War I. So this isn't just about something happening on the street Portland. This is about an international network, internationally fleet network of those trying to undermine Western civilization and our constitutional order. So let me just say stay tuned, I love it.
Amanda
If that does happen. Yeah, if that does happen, how much more allowance and leeway does that give this administration to go. To go after them? Because I feel, I know that with the international charging that's a better mechanism for going after them. But it's the funding, it's the resources, everything involved. How much more is that available with an international organization as opposed to domestic?
Sebastian Gorka
A whole panoply of tools, a whole toolbox opens up with the FTO designation for terrorist organization. Tools that sit under Scott Bessens control at treasury, under Marco dual hatted as the Secretary of State at the State Department. Not just to sanction individual organizations to go after them, but it's also individuals or those who assist the terrorists, who give them succor aid, training, financing. So it is an incredible explosion of statecraft tools that is provided with the FDO donation. So whether it's Al Qaeda, ANTIFA provides us a lot of additional tools and that's why the President's decision is so Very, very important.
John Solomon
Yeah, no doubt about it. Seb, I know how hard you work 12, 14, 15 hours a day. You're in that skiff. You're constantly watching out so that we can sleep safe at night. I want to ask you how a lot of times things happen to Washington. Americans don't fully grasp how important it is. But the polling shows that people are in massive numbers supportive of the efforts to eradicate the narco terrorists that have been poisoning our young adults and our children in this country. To know that they understood how important that was. The work you're doing and the President is doing, what does that mean to the men and women on the front lines of counterterrorism every day? Wow.
Sebastian Gorka
What a great question. Day eight. We turned it around when the President signed that go order to kill a leading ISIS jihadi in Somalia. We used that operation to revert to the rules of engagement of the first Trump administration because I had been told for those first days of the administration, across the Department of War, across the intelligence community, please, please, Dr. G, can we just do our job? Can we kill people who are planning to kill Americans or who have killed Americans? The morale has skyrocketed. It's like cbp. CBP are not greeters at Walmart on the southern border. They're doing their jobs along ice, protecting Americans, locking up human traffickers, rapists, cartel drug smugglers. So when I had my national show on Newsmax, I did the math. Think about this One stat from 1945, the end of hostilities in World War II, 103,000 men and women died in uniform on foreign soil. Korea, Vietnam, Panama, Grenada, Gulf War. The GWAT wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. 103,000 in 70 years. One year of open border policies of the Biden Harris administration. 110,000 thousand Americans were killed by drugs coming across the border because of the cartels. So let me be very, very candid here. They declared war on us, killing 110,000Americans in one year. That's why the President is judiciously and righteously going to war with them to save American lives.
Amanda
Dr. Sebastian Gorka, protecting our country as citizens, Senior Director for Counterterrorism at National Security Council. Thanks so much for being with us tonight. All right, everybody, after the break, we're going to have an update for you on those parents who were targeted by the DOJ simply for trying to stand up for their children at school board meetings. We're going to have that next.
John Solomon
Welcome back, everybody. Parents rights are still one of the most raging issues in America. Whether it's in elections in Washington, D.C. or at the local school board. Joining us now, someone is on the front lines of that extraordinary fight, the co founder of the Parents Demanding Justice Alliance, Kelly Walker. Kelly, great to have you here.
Kelly Walker
Great to be back here.
John Solomon
All right. A lot of people probably don't know your story. Remind people of the extraordinary story, what you went through.
Kelly Walker
Sure, it's a long story, but essentially the federal government attacked my family because we stood up for school children. We saw the terrible things that were being done to children. We had a coffee shop in Tucson, Arizona at the time. So we had a lot of people coming and telling us our story. So I was sentenced to 100 days in jail and $10,000 in fines for speaking.
John Solomon
Wow.
Amanda
Unbelievable.
John Solomon
A fought crime.
Amanda
And, you know, I think that people maybe would excuse this away. Unfortunately, in a deep, deep blue state. This is Arizona. It's a swing state.
Kelly Walker
Sure. Yeah. And we have parents. We've put together a dossier of parents all over the country. And most, yes, are Republicans, but we have Democrats and progressives. And what was done to parents was to take away their rights and to criminalize them. Merrick Garland, as you know, created this memo, October 4th of 2021, calling parents domestic terrorists and mobilizing FBI resources under the Patriot Act. So it's very egregious what they did to parents.
John Solomon
It is. Now, they treated you like you were a terrorist. All right, so you didn't make any threats, you didn't act violently. You just simply advocated for your child, Right?
Kelly Walker
Yes.
John Solomon
And for that other days in jail.
Kelly Walker
Yeah. And the most important thing, though, is that I advocated for everyone's children because we had. I had a voice. We had a public place. So the other two dads who sat in the same office meeting with me, they got $250 fines. I think they call that class of one, legally, where they penalize someone because they don't like them and they didn't like me because I had a voice.
John Solomon
Unbelievable.
Amanda
So did you put up signs at your business that said, we're not going to serve you if you don't believe like we do? I mean, what was so egregious about what you said?
Kelly Walker
Absolutely not. Well, I was actually arrested twice. The first time was because we were supposedly out of compliance, even though we had passed every Covid inspection. So the whole thing was a setup. And from that point forward, they started watching me. And then people saw that stand that I took because I was publicly arrested on television again for speaking at a Board of Supervisors meeting. So People started coming and saying, hey, can you help us with this? Can you help us with that? So, no, we welcomed everyone. I have a scientific background. I had my opinion on masks and everything else, but we wanted everyone who were customers to feel comfortable. So, no, we absolutely. We didn't have any signs like that. We weren't overtly political, but we were targeted politically, became an enemy of the.
John Solomon
State just for standing effort, your own beliefs. All right, so you stood up once for parents, gave them a voice. You paid a price. But now you're working to get an executive order from the White House. Tell us about that. It's really important.
Kelly Walker
We are. I've been in D.C. since Monday. I've had several trips out here. I'm going to be back next week. I'm with Sharona Bishop. We're. We both work for Mike Lindell, among other things, and we've been out here talking to everyone, and we have a whole coalition of people that are working on this. Sam Sorbo is flying in tonight. Actually, we're all going to get together. And I know that people have talked to Pam Bondi. I know it's very important to Pam. It's very important to Harmeet Dhillon. And yes, we do want an executive order from the president because, first of all, we know that this administration didn't do these things to people. But. But we would like an apology to these parents from the federal government for what was done. We had the smoking gun. We know it was done. And then we want restitution for the parents who actually suffered economic harm. People lost homes, lost jobs, they went to jail and the whole thing was fraudulent. We know that. We have all the information on it. So we're so glad this administration is here. In fact, Sharona and I just met with Ed Martin, had a great meeting with him. We've talked to Vince Haley. We feel like this is going in a good direction and we appreciate everything that President Trump and the administration are doing.
John Solomon
This would protect future parents. It would set a standard that the government couldn't do this in the future, is that right?
Kelly Walker
It would, yes. So the apology is important. It's going to help people because people's families have divided over this. So if the federal government comes forward and said, yep, we were wrong, that's going to help with family relationships. The restitution is important because people need to be restored to the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness they had before their own government attacked them and then justice. We have to go after the people who did this and make them answer for what they did.
John Solomon
So crazy.
Amanda
All right, so apology, restitution, protection, justice, these four elements within that executive order. But for you personally, what's the status update on you? Because I think last time we talked to you, you were in Tennessee.
Kelly Walker
Yes, I'm in Tennessee and my 10 year old daughter, she's wonderful. I think she inherited my forceful at times personality. She said, I want to tell President Trump he needs to get me a new bunk bed because they took our home. And.
Amanda
That'S a request I feel like he appreciates.
Kelly Walker
So we're getting by, but it's been tough and we're trying to make ends meet. And I'm coming up here every so often I get donations to help me come up here. But I'm glad to be in the fight. It's not been an easy road, but thank you guys so much for having me on.
John Solomon
It's such an important conversation. People can't believe this is happening in our country, but it's even worse overseas now in places like Great Britain, Italy. It's crazy. Real quickly, Congress, you think Congress gets involved at some point, too?
Kelly Walker
They have been involved. In fact, the first congressman who reached out to me was Jim Jordan.
John Solomon
Yeah.
Kelly Walker
Eli Crane has been very helpful. Andy Biggs, good friend from Arizona. Arizona and Andy Ogles sponsored a presser we had on July 15th. So we definitely have members of Congress fighting for us, but we got to bring everybody together and do right by these incredible families.
John Solomon
You fired the first shot. You've got this started now. I got momentum. So it's an amazing thing. Kelly, great to have you on the show. Thank you. Congrats on the fight. You're winning. All right, folks, we're going to take a little bit break. We'll be back with more news right after these messages. Hey, America, let me bring you up to speed on a quiet but urgent issue. CBDCs or central bank digital currencies are being developed by 134 countries. These digital dollars will give governments the ability to track every transaction and limit how you use your own money. This includes setting expiration dates on your savings or locking your account without notice. American Alternative Assets is warning Americans now before it's too late. They published a free digital guide called the Digital Dollar Trap. It outlines the risks and shows how to use physical gold to protect your retirement savings. If you're concerned about privacy and control of your finances, this guide is for you. Here's how you get it. Call 1-855-465-3340 or visit johnlikesgold.com to get your free copy. That's 1-855-465-33420 or go to johnlikesgold.com get the facts, secure your future.
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Amanda
Have a very special guest coming up, but in the meantime, I want to knock a few topics out of the way because, John, we were talking with Dr. Gorka about President Trump's impact on the world stage, and you look at everything that he has been able to accomplish, and it has been virtually eight accomplishments in eight months because there were two in August. So. So that backs it up to March, and it is eight. Eight for eight.
John Solomon
Yeah.
Amanda
It's incredible.
John Solomon
It is. There's enormous progress. And it's what happens when the American agenda is made clear, meaning you know where America stands. Then you ask, what is the objective? Whatever that objective is you try to achieve.
Kelly Walker
And the.
John Solomon
The clarity of voice in which the president speaks at I want peace. I want the killing to stop. I want the hostages home. The ask is clear. When Joe Biden was president, it was always mumbled. Not the words. I mean, he mumbled all the time, but the message was mumbled.
Amanda
The articulation.
John Solomon
Yeah, yeah. You just didn't know where the administration was. And I think that was a really significant degradation of American policy. That's why we got nothing done. In those four years on the or, the world rally became more unstable. We had many world leaders come on show saying, we don't know where America stands right now.
Amanda
I know. And you know, that clarity, what's so important about that clarity is that whether you agree or disagree with the president's motives, with his goals on foreign policy, it reminds me of that poll that I talked about. 52% of Americans feel that President Trump is keeping his promises. That doesn't necessarily mean that they like his promises, but he's keeping them. And people just aren't used to seeing that in Washington. But you know, this is a guy who came into office in his first term. They said it over and over and over again, he's going to start World War three. He doesn't have any diplomatic experience, he doesn't have foreign policy experience. You know, he's never done any of this wheeling and dealing. But at the end of the day, the thing that set President Trump apart was not only that, but also the fact that he, you know, he doesn't make money off the war machine. It's not something that he has been inculcated in, for, for decades of public service in Washington. And he was the guy who came in and has had more success than any of these so called experienced policy.
John Solomon
It is remarkable. And this, we're only a quarter of the way into the presidency, so who knows what is still on the horizon. Going back to Seb Gorka interview, I think we had a big hint, we broke some news here. It sounds like Antifa is going to be soon designated an international terrorist organization and all the tools that he'd end up leaving it. But he said stay tuned and he kind of hinted at where they were going. And you kind of get that feel watching that Antifa event the other day that the President was moving in that direction. But Seb laid it out, hey, Since World War I, the aftermath of World War I, Antifa was already an international organization. I thought that was a really big moment in the interview today. Congresswoman Houchen, the clarity which she laid out, the illegal alien scam, that's part of this. The Democrats are lying to the American people. And listen, if the Republicans are lying, we tell you that too. They're not telling in the truth. They really do want illegal aliens to get benefits. They gave them a fake name, they called them Asylees when they didn't meet the standard. President Trump took that away with an executive order. But that is a really, the way she laid it out was one of the most easiest ways to understand it. And the American people need to realize you're being shut down.
Amanda
Absolutely.
John Solomon
So that an illegal alien can get health care benefits. That's what this whole debate turns on.
Amanda
Well, and not only are they being shut down, they're being gaslit by their Democrat leaders on Capitol Hill. Gaslit because, and I know you remember us having this conversation over and over again in nauseam under President Joe Biden because We were talking about how they changed the definition of asylum, they changed the definition of parolee so, so that they could usher them into this country. And people might have forgotten about that. Where, if it not were for this specific instance where they are trying to use that, use that mangling of language to get what they want.
John Solomon
Yeah. No, Chuck Schumer said the secret out loud, right?
Congresswoman Erin Houching
Yeah.
John Solomon
It gets better every day. We keep the American people punished because we can score some points with our base. This is not about even winning the general election. This is about getting their money base back because the money base has been so demoralized. But you, the American people, are the hostage in that effort to get Democratic money to flow back to the lefties in the party. And make no doubt about it, AOC is much more in charge of the party now. She's a puppet master than maybe the two current leaders. I think some, several people have said that on the show. I think there's some truth to that. And what I'm seeing and hearing now, everybody's afraid to be primaried by AOC or Bernie or whoever. The far left machine is going to run that. But you, the American people are held hostage in that. And I think that that's something we got to keep explaining every night.
Amanda
Yeah, there's an old proverb that says, says a bee can move a bull. And I think AOC is the bee and the bull is the Democrat Party. But John, from your perspective, because you've been, you've been, you know, reporting on Washington for so long for Chuck Schumer, someone who, you know, he, regardless of who he is catering to at the moment, he's not an AOC Democrat, he's not an AOC Progressive. How does he save his, his caucus in the Senate? How does he save his party? How does he save face personal for himself? But still, you know, he's got to not get blamed for the shutdown. But he's also not. He also has to not tick off AOC and her ilk. So how does he do that? How does he balance that?
John Solomon
Listen, Donald Trump showed how to do this. After 2021, the rhinos wanted to come back and kind of push the MAGA movement out, and he just pinned them back down. I mean, Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney and anyone who tried to step into that void, he just buried out. It takes courage to fight back when you have an extremist wing in your own party. But it's the safer way to call it out and knock it down. Bill Clinton did this in 9192 rebounding from the Michael Dukakis leftist failure of 1988. You got to stand up to that side of party, say you're destroying us and I'm going to beat you down until you get out of the party, find another home. But right now, the old tired leadership of the Democrats don't have the courage to do that. Donald Trump has a playbook. Bill Clinton had a playbook. They're not playing it. They're actually capitulating.
Amanda
Yeah. It's amazing. And, and I keep saying I don't know what is, what is going to bring Democrats to the table because frankly, John, Republicans can push back from the table and say we gave you a clean cr. You know, as, as this, they're making.
John Solomon
A vote every couple days.
Amanda
Absolutely. And as, as time drags on, the closer and closer we are getting to Russ vote, getting his wish.
John Solomon
Yeah, Yeah. I think that's the next thing. Just pull that trigger and see what happens. That's going to happen soon. You know, man, I've been thinking a lot about central bank digital currencies. We've been doing a lot of research on that. It's a scary thing. In the next segment, we're going to have a really good conversation about that. I think we should take a quick commercial break and do that. We think.
Amanda
I agree. Let's do it.
John Solomon
Let's do it.
Kelly Walker
All right.
John Solomon
We'll be right back, folks.
Sebastian Gorka
Foreign.
Amanda
Welcome back, everybody. Something historic is happening right now with gold. In just three years, the US dollar has lost 50% of its value against gold. That means that half of your purchasing power.
Congresswoman Erin Houching
Poof.
Amanda
Is gone and Wall street can no longer ignore it. The bond king, Jeffrey Gunlock now recommends 25 gold exposure. Exposure. Morgan Stanley has shifted to a 60, 2020 model with 20% allocated to gold. Even JP Morgan is going long on gold and silver and platinum while shortening oil and base metals. So here to explain what this means for your savings and retirement is Shannon Davis, CEO of American Alternative Assets. Shannon, great to have you back with us.
Shannon Davis
Thanks for having me, guys. Nice to see you.
Amanda
Good to see you. I know this goes back to a larger conversation about the golden gold standard. So let's, I guess maybe let's try to truncate it. But how on earth have we lost that much value of our dollar against gold in three years?
Shannon Davis
Yeah, well, this is telling us the truth right now. What it goes back to is Covid, when you print $14 trillion, you're, you're devaluing the money that people are holding. You know, gold is exposing the weakness in the dollar. 50% is not a small dip. That is a silent collapse. And even the big players are admitting it. And you know, you got guys like Jeffrey Gold Gundlage saying put a quarter of your wealth, that's your wealth, not your portfolio, into gold. Morgan Stanley, JP Morgan Chase, they're following suit. But it starts because we've printed more money and more money and more money and when you do that, it devalues. When you have more of something, it dilutes. And so that's the problem we're having and we're going to continue to have. And you know, that's why you talk about it a lot, John. You know, digital currency is real and it's happening.
John Solomon
Yeah, it's the thing I'm most frightened about. The more I learn about the law and I see the little subtleties seeing, playing out some of these countries that are pursuing it, it's a control mechanism for our money coming forward, least in many countries. Hopefully America will resist it. Before I get that though, I just want to ask one quick thing because I think when people hear 50% against the dollar, that means the buying power of someone. That dollar in my wallet only buys as much, half as much as it could a couple of years ago compared to gold. That really means that the kitchen table, the dinner table, the store, I'm being affected, right?
Shannon Davis
100%. Yeah. There is a shift, a quality, quiet but quick shift. Central banks are buying gold at the fastest rate ever recorded. It's because they're exchanging those dollars that aren't purchasing nearly what it purchased five years ago. Cost of goods are continuing to go up. They have for three years straight. And it's not because they are hoping on gaining on the gold. It's because they are preparing for something big. They see currency risk everywhere, they see liquidity, stress everywhere, market breakdown and that happens. Gold is just a hedge now, but it's becoming the foundation as well. So the dollar is not holding its value and every dollar you take, you're buying less and less with it. That's been happening for a long time.
Amanda
That's terrifying. And I know, Shannon, we've talked about the CBDC issue with, with this country and obviously, you know, President Trump is a very freedom minded person. But the conversations we've had with you give me a bad feeling that we're already too far down the road to even throw it in reverse.
Shannon Davis
Well, we are. I mean he's, he's definitely, I mean you guys were just talking about it. I mean he's knocking things out of the park one by one. And dealing with our debt is one of them. Whether that's front and center, he is dealing with it with a lot of the moves that he's making because he has to, we have to do something with our currency because no one wants it. They're dumping Treasuries back. That's where the stablecoins coming into play. It's just opening another market in a way to get Treasuries purchased, but it's purchased in a way where we don't have to actually pay it back and have interest that we have to pay on this debt that we're taking in because that's all we're doing is taking more debt in paying interest on it. So he is doing a lot of really good things. We all know that. You guys know that. You talk about it all the time. But at the end of the day, he knows he has a currency issue not only in our own country, but globally. And these are the moves that you're starting to see when it comes to digital currency. It something has to break and he doesn't want to be caught on the wrong side of the fence events when our currency completely calls it a good night. And so he's doing a good job. I don't think a lot of it is in the, in the mainstream media with him nor anybody. And that's, that's the challenge for people out there. And why you want to convert a portion of your money into gold and silver. It's real money. It can't be converted into digital. We've talked about it before. When that happens, you can lose, you know, potentially 30 to 50% of your money overnight, just like France and Italy and Germany did many, many years ago.
John Solomon
Yeah, that's a great point. Real quick, before we go, what's your best recommendation right now? To get studied up to be smart on these trend lines?
Shannon Davis
Yeah, you know, reach out to us. We've got a robust research department. It starts with education. I don't think enough people are educated on how money really works. And it goes back to when all of us were really younger. Like, school doesn't teach you that, Teach your kids that. But call us, get an education on how things are really happening real time with real resources. Get our guide, go to our website. There's a learning center on our website where they can learn all about how everything works. There's plenty of resources. By just going to our website, going to the guides that you offer, giving us a call and educating themselves on what's really going on and how they can help.
Amanda
I love it. I love it. American Alternative Assets. Shannon Davis, thanks so much for being with us tonight. And to our viewers. If you want to learn more about American Alternative Assets, go over to johnlikesgold.com or call 855-Gold-340 to get your guide. Now that's 855-465-3340. Everybody have a great night. We'll see you tomorrow.
Congresswoman Erin Houching
This is an I Heart podcast.
Podcast: Real America’s Voice
Hosts: John Solomon & Amanda Head
Date: October 9, 2025
Notable Guests: Congresswoman Erin Houching (R-IN), Sebastian Gorka (Deputy Assistant to the President, NSC), Kelly Walker (Parents Demanding Justice Alliance), Shannon Davis (CEO, American Alternative Assets)
This episode centers on significant current political developments and national controversies in the United States, including the indictment of New York AG Letitia James, the Middle East peace deal brokered by President Trump, the ongoing government shutdown, debates about immigration and healthcare, accountability for federal officials, parents’ rights, the designation of Antifa as a terrorist organization, and economic concerns about the dollar and central bank digital currencies.
(00:27–02:16)
(01:42–02:16, 12:55–15:17, 17:29–21:14)
(02:16–08:52, 12:01–12:55, 39:40–41:46)
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(14:31–15:17, 21:14–25:47)
(21:45–25:47, 37:41–38:33)
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(43:25–49:43)
President Trump on the Middle East Deal:
“Everybody I see is celebrating in Israel, but they're celebrating in many other countries, too. A lot of the Muslim and Arab countries, they're celebrating. Everybody celebrating. Everybody loves the deal. So it's great honor to have been working on it.” (01:42)
Rep. Erin Houching on Government Shutdown Message:
“[Schumer] said the quiet part out loud. Every day we're shut down, it gets better for us. … It's actually going to backfire on them in a big way.” (06:59)
Sebastian Gorka on Hostage Priority:
“Number one out of the 20 [deal points], all hostages. And that, I assure you … was given a number one priority.” (19:35)
Kelly Walker on Parental Rights Fight:
“[The] federal government attacked my family because we stood up for school children...I was sentenced to 100 days in jail and $10,000 in fines for speaking.” (28:57–29:19)
Shannon Davis on Devaluation of the Dollar:
“Gold is exposing the weakness in the dollar. 50% is not a small dip. That is a silent collapse.” (44:21)
| Segment/Discussion | Timestamp | |---------------------------------|------------| | Letitia James Indictment, Opening| 00:27–02:16 | | Trump’s Middle East Deal | 01:42–02:16 / 12:55–15:17 / 17:29–21:14 | | Schumer’s Shutdown Comments | 03:08 / 06:59–07:21 | | Immigration & Health Care Debate| 07:50–08:52 / 39:40–41:46 | | Accountability for Officials | 08:52–11:08 | | FBI Surveillance Allegations | 10:44–11:45 | | GOP Unity, Trump Leadership | 14:31–15:17 | | Antifa Terrorist Organization | 21:45–25:47 / 37:41–38:33 | | Parents Right Activism (Walker) | 28:36–34:17 | | Dollar Devaluation, Gold, CBDCs | 43:25–49:43 |
The language is urgent, direct, and combative, consistently critical of Democratic leadership and supportive of President Trump’s administration. The panel uses strong, action-oriented expressions (e.g., “treasonous,” “weaponized arm of government,” “monumental achievement,” “silent collapse”). Quotes and claims are often framed as corrective to mainstream narratives.
For listeners seeking a fact-focused, pro-Trump interpretation of contemporary political events, this episode delivers breaking news, analysis, and policy debate from a distinctly conservative lens, highlighting themes of federal overreach, border security, economic anxiety, and American power on the world stage. Guests and hosts present a unified narrative of accomplishment for Trump’s administration, skepticism towards government intervention, and concern about emerging financial risks.