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Amanda Head
This is an I Heart podcast. Welcome everybody, to the Tuesday edition of Just the News. No noise. I'm your host, Amanda Head, reporting to you from the nation's Capital Capitol, Washington, D.C. my co host and Just the News editor in chief, John Solomon, he's out on assignment tonight. Now, the charges against Tyler Robinson, the suspected assassin of Charlie Kirk, were announced today by Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray. And they include counts of aggravated murder and obstruction of justice, as well as witness tampering, felony charge, felony discharge of a firearm, and commission of a violent offense in the presence of a child. Gray also stated that he would be filing notice of intent to seek the death penalty based on the available evidence that investigators have and that Robinson will continue to be held without bail in the Utah county jail. And he also confirmed that the state believes that Robinson targeted Charlie because of his political beliefs. And Gray also explained a bit about Robinson's own alleged political beliefs during his press conference. Take a look.
Brian Babin
Robinson's mother explained that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and had started to lean more to the left, becoming more pro gay and trans rights oriented.
Jeff Crank
She stated that Robinson began to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning genders. This resulted in several discussions with family members, but especially between Robinson and his father, who have very different political views.
Amanda Head
And I'm sure that you have been seeing people online, including Jimmy Kimmel on his show, saying that the suspected shooter was right wing. Well, I think that that can finally dispel that narrative. And more news came out about all of this during FBI Director Cash Patel's hearing in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee when Senator Kennedy, that's John Kennedy, asked Director Patel if they had any other suspects who could be involved.
Jeff Crank
Did Mr. Karch's assassin act alone? As I've said since the beginning, Senator, it is very much an ongoing investigation. There are a number of individuals that are currently being investigated and interrogated and a number yet to be investigated and interrogated specific to that chat room. So we are very much in our ongoing posture of investigation. So others could have been involved. Yes, sir.
Amanda Head
And I frankly was happy to hear that frank answer from the Director because I know a lot of us have suspicions about the way this went down, the way that it happened. If there was solo coordination on this, it just there. There are so many questions that are still out, and it doesn't seem to add up, at least for me, that it was just one person acting. There had to have been other coordinators or influencers. But as always, just the news is going to keep you updated as we learn more. And now I want to shift focus to the media for just a minute because Just the News's own Greg Piper has a great story out. Powerful public figures spreading false information about Charlie Kirk and about his beliefs. And these aren't just random people on the Internet. Some of these examples include places like the New York Times. Now, I know that we all don't necessarily hold the New York Times in the highest regard, but you would think that they would do some actual journalism when trying to report something that Charlie Kirk said. But unfortunately, of course, they did not. The New York Times wrote that Charlie said, quote, jewish communities have been pushing the exact kind of hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them. Now, they wrote that Charlie said that on his podcast back in 2023. And they put that in their article to try and make it seem as if Charlie was anti Semitic in some way. Which of course, especially for those of us who know him personally, is absolutely laughable. But unfortunately for them, those words weren't his. Yes, Charlie did say say them on his podcast, but he was quoting a tweet and critiquing it on his show. And the New York Times eventually had to issue a retraction saying exactly that, I'm sure begrudgingly issuing that retraction. Now how about Democrat Congressman Chris Murphy? Now he claimed that there is that there's much more right wing violence than left wing violence, but he cited a New York Times report, there's the New York Times again, that relied on statistics from the Anti Defamation League and that claims an increase in rallies, protests and offensive banners by white supremacists, but absolutely no mention of violence at all. And there's plenty more examples. If you want to check out more of that, just head over to Greg's story over on justthenews.com so I want to get into this and a whole lot of other stuff because Congress, they've got a lot of work to do in the next few months leading up to Christmas. So joining me now is Texas Congressman Brian Babin. Congressman, thank you so much for coming back on the show.
Brian Babin
Great to be with you, Amanda, as always.
Amanda Head
Sir, I want to ask you about the indelible mark that Charlie Kirk leaves on this country, especially with young people. As I know you just heard me citing those examples of misinformation that's out there by mainstream media, politicians, even Jimmy Kimmel, that are trying to push this narrative that this assassin was not left wing, that it was right wing. It was quote, one of their own is how they are referring to it. How do we battle it? When you have people who are so willing to blatantly, they have no shame.
Brian Babin
Congressman, there's no question about it. Over and over again, when you have some horrible, tragic incident that occurs, they immediately have a knee jerk reaction, say it was caused by a right wing nationalist or white nationalist or this or that, and they steer away from anything that could be possibly, you know, on the radical left, which almost every one of these incidents has been. And we just, you just can't believe anymore. So you have to do your own homework. And I'm just so thankful for you, Amanda. And John, do your due diligence to really, to vet this stuff and get it out because we, we hear it every single day where Democrats and their legacy media, the mainstream media, are branding Republicans as fascists and Trump is Hitler and over and over and over again and deranged individuals, they hear it, they believe it, and then as you see, they act on it. And so the press is no longer reporting the news, Amanda, they're striking a match, which fuels the political violence that we're seeing right now.
Amanda Head
And Congressman, you've had some really poignant words after all of this and you've asked the question, you know, beyond Charlie Kirk's influence, beyond his death, it's no longer just about Charlie Kirk. It is about what our country is going to look like. And you ask the question, what kind of country are we going to be? What kind of country are we going to be? Because I see one side that is spewing vitriol and they are claiming free speech, even though this is a side that has never cared about free speech anymore. They're just worried about losing their jobs and, and the other side of the aisle who actually does very much value free speech. We just don't. I mean, there's a difference between free speech and inciting speech. When you are inciting people to violence. So what does that look like for the two sides going forward? Do we even, are we even in a place where we can find common ground?
Brian Babin
I'm having a hard time seeing common ground when we have these teachers and politicians and folks in corporate, corporate media, et cetera, over and over again. And we hear the Democrats, the radicalized Democrats that say that, that hate speech or speech, they consider that violence. So what that does, if somebody, you know, puts their opinion out there, like Charlie Kirk was so articulate in doing and standing up for the Constitution, for his God, for the Bible, for his Lord Jesus, Christ. And for, for conservatives, you know that if they consider that hate speech, we have a right to self defense in this country. And so the Democrats simply just take that, reinterpret it. Well, if that'sif hate speech is violence, then we have a right to self defense and we have a right to real kinetic violence. And that's how they justify this. So let me tell you something, as a member of Congress, we're all very cognizant. This is a lot of our conversations today. We need to all be careful because these people are ginned up by out of control left wing media and, and these politicians and the nutcases that are out there listening to this. And so we've got to be real, real careful about this.
Amanda Head
Absolutely, sir. This reprobate that killed Charlie Kirk, why did he, why did he target Charlie? Because Charlie, Charlie's one of the nice guys. Because, I mean, I'm including myself in a group of people who sometimes are not so nice when we are arguing our principles because I'm kind of a hothead and you know, these are things that I care passionately about. That was not Charlie. Charlie was always cool, calm and collected and he was always kind in his delivery and in his debate. Why did, why did this guy target Charlie?
Brian Babin
He was just simply radicalized. He was ready to do anything, was kind of like an attack dog. He had been, he had been ginned up on this, on this, on the dark web, some of these people, and he thought he was doing well. You know, the Bible says that Jesus says that there will come a time when, you know, when they consider good evil and evil good. And people will literally kill you and think they're doing the large work. And this is what this kid did. And quite frankly, it doesn't sound like his family was like that, but he obviously was a left wing radical. And I'll tell you this, the good news is that they really have awakened a sleeping giant. In the wake of his death, thousands and thousands of young Americans have stepped up because this is where Charlie did his good work. He actually helped the Republicans win the majorities in the House and the Senate and help Donald Trump win the White House because young people started voting for Republicans for the conservative cause, for faith. And so this is what, this is his legacy. But what we need to do is to go along and support these thousands of young college kids. And people are not even, they're young, but not even in college who want to start, you know, these chapters that turning point chapters in their communities and their schools and that's how I think we carry on Charlie's legacy and in remembrance of him, in honor of his family, his wife, his two beautiful little children, that we honor their. This is their legacy that we will carry on.
Amanda Head
Yeah. Well, and I want to move on because there is house business to discuss. But before I do, and I've seen the comments online about what I've said about this, but I continue to assert that the parents of this young man deserve grace, especially the father who turned in his son. That had to have been one of the hardest and most demoralizing decisions that he's had to make in his life. And he's going to live with it the rest of his life. So for all the haters out there, I don't care because I think we should offer grace. I think that's the right thing to do. But Congressman, you are a part of the Border Caucus and I know you are seeing these incredible numbers as far as border crossings this time around. You and I were talking about this before we came to air. It didn't take new laws. It just took a new president. What else can be done to protect our country from illegal immigration? Because unfortunately, you got a lot of people who have overstayed visas. I know we're doing the deportation thing, but what else can be done?
Brian Babin
Well, I tell you what, I know Tom Holman well, our border czar. I have had conversations with him. This I just, I just can't thank President Trump enough because we all it took was leadership. You know, we kept as one of the co chairs of the House Border Security Caucus, we actually brought former DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas before us. And he would lie repeatedly saying, you know, we have totalwe have total operational control over our border. Things are going just as we want. And as millions of these illegals were coming across the border and he says everything's copacetic. And he says, but if you want real border security, you've got to have comprehensive immigration reform. And he kept putting impossible hurdles out there in front of and excuses for why they couldn't secure our border. And all it took the first week, Amanda, in one week, the president, when President Trump took office, he had control of that border. And for another month, we've had zero illegal crossings and releases. It's just amazing when new sheriffs in town. This president is nobody to monkey with. He believes in the greatness of America. He believes in our foundational principles of Judeo Christianity, our Constitution. And I'll tell you something else. He also believes in law and order. And so I really appreciate what he's doing. He has put a great big reward on the head of, of the Venezuelan President Maduro. And he has shown twice that he is willing to blow bad guys out of the water who are bringing poisonous drugs into America with cartel help. And you know, I mean, let's face it, 100,000American young people each year are dying of fentanyl overdoses and other drugs. And he is determined to stop that. And I really, really appreciate what this president and his administration are doing and the good folks that he's got installed in these positions, I thank God for him. And I think they're going to think twice before they get in a boat full of dope and start hitting cars again.
Amanda Head
I think you're right. Well, and I can imagine for you as co chair of the Border Security Caucus, that you are delighted to no longer be in a position where you have to stop the bleeding at the southern border, but you can move on to things that will advance the causes of this country and of Republicans and of President Trump. Things like what are, you know, what's going to be involved in the next cr you guys were hard at work up on Capitol Hill. Give me your forecast of what that's going to look like, some of those priorities.
Brian Babin
Well, we're going to get a CR pass. I have very great confidence in our, in our speech. Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, you know, he, the Democrats and the mainstream media, they have, they really haven't given him a serious look. And then all of a sudden he comes through every single time. So I'm very confident in his leadership. And we've already gotten our continuing resolution text. We've got that, that's come across so we know what it's going to say. It's going to be what we call a clean continuing resolution or clean CR that is going to be a continuation of the funding that was already on the, on the books to keep our government open through November 21st. And we're going to get her done. We're going to prevent a government shutdown. In spite of Chuck Schumer and the Democrats that want to close this government down. They are not willing to keep the government open in spite of the dangers of it. So we're going to do it. We're going to get the job done. Amanda, I'm proud of it.
Amanda Head
I'm confident of that. Not just because of yours and other Republicans efforts, but also because I think Democrats are finally learning, you know, in the past they have been able to basically cause be a major catalyst for shutdowns, but then shift the blame to Republicans. Somehow I don't think that's going to happen this time, number one, because the sentiment has shifted. But also number two, you've got folks like Senator John Fetterman out there saying Democrats don't cause a shutdown. It's not good for the American people. So I think you guys actually might have a better chance this time around of not having as much Democrat obstruction because they know that they're not going to be able to blame it on you guys this time.
Brian Babin
Well, they underestimate us every single time. And every single time we have delivered the goods. And President Trump's America first agenda is moving forward. And they ought to listen to Fetterman. You know, the guy's got more sense than most of the rest of them, apparently. So we're serious about this. America's on a new path. We got the new sheriff in town. And I'm proud to be working on that America first agenda myself.
Amanda Head
Yes, sir. And we are proud of the work that you do and we appreciate it so much. And thank you so much for being on the show tonight, sir.
Brian Babin
Thank you, Amanda. God bless.
Amanda Head
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Amanda Head
Welcome back to Just THE News. No noise. A lot of focus since the tragic assassination of our friend and colleague Charlie Kirk last week. And it's been on the media top to bottom and for good reason. A lot of the rhetoric that has contributed to the rise in political violence in recent years has come from them. And joining me now to discuss that and much more is Arizona Congressman Abe Hamaday. Congressman, thanks so much for being here.
Abe Hamade
Thanks for having me, Amanda.
Amanda Head
You know, I know that you have talked about this. A lot of us have that the media and the left, whether it is elected Democrats or people who support elected Democrats, they've spent years calling Americans all sorts of nasty names, Nazis, white supremacists, insurrectionists, election deniers. I mean, the list goes on and on and on. So I suppose when we look back at what happened last Wednesday, it's not that much of a surprise.
Abe Hamade
Sadly not. But this is what we're dealing with with the militant left. I mean, they are willing to kill for their beliefs. And you mentioned it correctly, that they've been calling us white supremacists, Nazis, election deniers, threats to democracy. What did they expect to happen? I mean, they've been radicalizing members of their own party and members of this movement for a long time. And, you know, Amanda, they tried to assassinate President Trump last year. They locked up Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon last year. And now, unfortunately, they killed and assassinated Charlie Kirk in the most brutal way. And obviously, my condolences go out to his family, his friends, his colleagues and the supporters. And, you know, it's affected my staff deeply because so many of my staff have personally worked for Charlie and they worked at Turning Point. And, you know, being from Arizona, Charlie was from Arizona. He was Arizona son. And I think we're taking a little bit harder than most around the country. But it is inspiring to see the lives he actually touched because, as you know, I mean, the amount of people who are now in the media, in government, in positions of power who are inspired by Charlie Kirk because he went on those college campuses and recruited people to be pro America. It's truly inspiring. Now look at what's happening, his death. There is some good coming out of it. You're seeing this awakening of people. I mean, the turning Point announced you had 30 plus thousand new chapters, people wanting to start new chapters at their high schools and universities, but it shouldn't have ended that way. And my thoughts and prayers go out to Erica and her two children.
Amanda Head
Yeah, it's heartbreaking. And, you know, I want to leave people like George Soros out of this question because I do believe that George Soros has malevolent and even demonic intentions when it comes to sowing discord and dividing and ultimately destroying this country. So I want to leave that, that fringe faction out and I want to just talk about elected Democrats. Do you think that with Democrats and their messaging, with all of this leading up to Charlie Kirk's assassination, and frankly, even some of their messaging since Charlie Kirk's assassination, do you think that maybe behind closed doors, I know what they're saying, face forward, but behind closed doors, maybe they're a little concerned that the dog caught up with the bumper.
Abe Hamade
I hope they are. But unfortunately, I think that the Democratic Party has been hijacked by these militant left wing radicals. And, you know, I see it every single day. You see these posts on Facebook, on TikTok. I mean, there's people celebrating Charlie's death. And I, I know it's a minority, but it worries me that it is prevalent in the Democratic Party that allows them to control primaries. And you know, I just passed one of my first bipartisan bills just this week with a colleague in the Congress and it was a Democrat. So we, I understand that you can get along and work with Democrats, but the Democrat Party has to wake up to the fact that they're either going to go to the communist ways or they have to revert back to being pro America, like how it was under Tip o', Neill, where you can negotiate and have disagreements over policies. But right now this is fundamental disagreements. The left wing lunatics, they want to destroy our country. It's pretty apparent right now. And they're willing to kill in order to enact their agenda. And that is, that is why this moment, everybody knows it's so different. And it hits home for me especially I have family that comes from Syria, comes from Venezuela. I don't want to see the United States of America turn into one of those countries where political violence becomes a norm. And you know, I know it took a lot to get here, but unfortunately, you have to have a new generation of leadership, people like myself standing up right now at this critical time. You know, there's so many young people that they shouldn't have to enter politics with the stakes so high, where they're scared to Enter it. Because they're worried that they might be targeted on campuses or targeted because of who they work for. But I know that, you know, we're either going to go down in history as a generation that lost our country, but I refuse to believe that. I think we're going to go down in America, go down in history as a generation that saved America. And that's why I'm in this fight.
Amanda Head
Yeah, I know. And sir, I want to ask you about, in the interest of bipartisanship, last night you guys held this vigil for, for Charlie. And I think that there were maybe half a dozen Democrats there, which I, frankly, I'm glad. This is so sad to say the bar is so low, but I guess I'm glad that there were even six of them there. For all of the other Democrats who didn't show up and for the ones who did not support a moment of silence on the floor of the House, what's their reasoning?
Abe Hamade
You know, again, I think that a lot of them, unfortunately, are captured by, by the radical left, left wing lunatics. I mean, you see in New York, you have Zoran Mamdani, you know, a communist guy who's going to become the mayor of that once great city. So this is where the Democrat Party has to have a reckoning of what they're dealing with. What, what George Soros has been spreading for many years and now it's coming to fruition. But it was nice to see. You know, so when you have a Monday vote, there's a lot of members of Congress who fly in pretty late and, you know, maybe they weren't there on time as well, but just to have six Democrats. Yes. You know, maybe we're setting the bar a little too low, but it is a sign, right, that there is a pulse within that party that I hope that they can go and capture it back.
Amanda Head
Yeah, I certainly hope so as well. I want to ask you about the media disinformation, I would say mal information, because I absolutely think it's intentional. You can't, you can't hardly look at the information that has come out about Tyler Robinson and say he's one of maga's own. So you've got people like Jimmy Kimmel and even some members of Congress who are out there spreading false information, denying the fact that this guy, you know, was, as his mother told investigators, that he was swinging more and more to the left, that he was becoming more and more radical in defense of lgbtq, you know, trans rights, all that kind of stuff. How do we like in the instance of Jimmy Kimmel, I know he's got his audience. He's got. He's got these people that are still listening to him even though he cries on air like an idiot. And it's no longer even a funny show. So maybe we consider those people lost. But for everyone else, how do we combat those types of lies?
Abe Hamade
Well, we have to always speak the truth. It's what Charlie Kirk did. And Amanda, what I believe is happening is that we're going through another mass formation psychosis. It's obvious. I mean, the ones who are refusing to believe fact and truth, the fact that the killer, the assassin was a left wing militant, you know, they want to pin him on it being a MAGA republic with no evidence, no facts, because what they, what they hear on MSNBC or on some TikTok videos, they want that to be their reality. So they're willing to go and fight and die for that to be the reality. But the truth is, everybody knows the truth. Most Americans know what the truth is that this man was radicalized based off of Internet chat rooms that was promoting LGBTQ agenda, making it seem like President Trump, who, by the way, is one of the most pro gay presidents. I mean, he got many members of his cabinet are gay, and, you know, he's friends with Caitlyn Jenner, who's transgender. So that's what's happening. The left makes it seem like this is an existential crisis and it's an existential threat that they have to go and kill for their beliefs. When in reality, what's happening is on our side, the Republican side, the America first movement, we were targeted. We were bankrupted. We had people going to jail. We had them trying to lock up President Trump for hundreds of with phony indictments. And, you know, look at our response. You know something. Somebody said that after George Floyd was killed in Minnesota, you saw the country burning because of what the militant left did. And when Charlie Kirk was brutally murdered, what we had was people going back to church and holding vigil services for him. That's the difference. This is a fight of good versus evil. And people who have clear eyes see that right now.
Amanda Head
Absolutely, sir. I want to ask you quickly, before we let you go, Director Patel appeared before the Senate Judiciary Committee, and he was asked by Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana if they thought that this was still a solo effort or if there was further coordination. What are your thoughts? Do you anticipate that this guy worked alone or do you think he had help?
Abe Hamade
I believe he had help. I think he had help from the online Internet groups. I think that's kind of what inspired him. And based off some evidence that the neighborhood saw many vehicles coming in from out of state license plates, to what extent that is, I don't know. But clearly this, the, the shooter was familiar with guns. But I do think that he was motivated and inspired and kind of egged on by some of these people on the Internet chats. And I'll just tell you, you know, Director Cash Patel, he's been doing a great job. And it's not fair to see the people coming after him. You know, they caught the killer in 33 hours based off his direction of releasing the photos and videos. I remember the Boston Marathon bombers that took a long time to catch those, to catch those terrorists. And same with the Washington, D.C. sniper. So, you know, I know we live in this fast age where people want to expect results so quickly, but 33 hours to catch a man who had a lot of time to get away. Cash Patel and the local law enforcement did an excellent job. And I'm glad that we could hopefully get some justice for Charlie Kirk.
Amanda Head
Absolutely. Well, Congressman, you and your other Republican colleagues, please be safe because the left has told us that everybody has targets on their back now. So please, please, please be cognizant, especially when you're out here in Washington. But, Congressman, thanks so much for joining us.
Abe Hamade
Thank you, Amanda.
Amanda Head
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Amanda Head
Welcome back to Just the News. No Noise. We've been focusing a lot on the media tonight and their rhetoric before and after the assassination of Charlie Kirk. And it's not just the media though. Did you know, for example, that the Biden administration said smear Charlie and Turning Point USA as so called violent extremists? A Media Research center report reveals federal agencies have spent millions pushing reckless rhetoric designed to discredit conservative leaders and groups like Turning Point usa. Kirk himself sounded the alarm on X, exposing how Biden's DHS spent $40 million on an anti terrorism program that actually compared Turning Point USA Heritage and PragerU to Nazis. So joining me now to talk about it is Media Research Center Vice President Dan Schneider. Dan, great to see you my friend.
Dan Schneider
Amanda, great seeing you. It's, it's unfortunate we have to be talking about this type of topic. Yeah, but you know, President Trump, when he announced that that Charlie Kirk had been murdered, assassinated, Trump said he was going to get to the bottom of who funding these sorts of terrible things. And the sad thing is Trump's predecessor, Joe Biden, Secretary, Secretary Mayorkas at dhs, they were using our tax dollars to fund some of these efforts. It really is disgusting and sad and Congress really needs to look into this again.
Amanda Head
Absolutely. Well, and I was just talking to Congressman Abe Hamade about this. I mean, you've got the George Soros side of things, the radical insidious messaging and funding that works its way into practically every entity of the Democrat Party and leftists in this country. But you look at the media and the way that they are proffering this and you look at what this kid did, I think that a lot of us would like to believe that it's not coming from officials, from Democrat Party leaders, from the former President Joe Biden, but they're just as guilty as all of these former fringe people.
Dan Schneider
Look, the left uses the phrase whole of society approach when they try to Radicalize things. And the whole of society includes government, government officials, it includes academia, it includes media, it includes entertainment, it includes every single aspect of our lives. The left has taken over these institutions to clamp down on freedom, clamp down on the idea of America. But, yeah, included the Biden administration attacking Charlie Kirk and Turning Point usa. He TP USA was one of about a dozen organizations specifically targeted by dhs, as you indicated. Included the Heritage foundation, and it included Prager University. It included the Republican Party itself. And there's been this widespread effort on the left to, as we all know, to demonize conservatives as less than human beings, as Nazis, and as threats to democracy. And in fact, just to state the obvious, democracy requires that people who disagree with each other be able to discuss their disagreements and resolve them through the political process, not through violence.
Amanda Head
Have you seen any indication, Dan, that. That there are any come to Jesus moments with anyone on the left? Any. You know, of course I hear all of them or not all of them. Some of them saying, we need to tone it down, we need to come back together and unite. But have you seen any indication that they actually mean it?
Dan Schneider
You know, Amanda, a phrase that I've seen out of the left, when they're pretending to be sensitive to this issue, they'll say, even Charlie Kirk did not deserve to be killed, right? Singling him out as if he's a rabid dog, that even a rabid dog does not deserve to be killed. So even when they're kind of pretending to soften their message, implicit in it is still this dehumanizing approach. And until the left acknowledges that it's the radicals who are murdering people and attempting to kill them, until they acknowledge that the bulk of the problem is on that side, I don't know how we resolve this. But let me just point one thing out, Amanda. The radical, these radicals who are murderous, they're also attacking Democrats, right? So when we hear that. Yeah, yeah, exactly. When we hear that that Democrats are being attacked too, well, that doesn't mean that the violence isn't coming from even more radical element, you know, to the left of Josh Shapiro. But that's. That's where these attacks are generally coming from. The radical left.
Amanda Head
I know, it's incredible. And I am getting so sick of that both sides argument because exactly as you pointed out, you know, the Minnesota representatives and. And Josh Shapiro, Governor of Pennsylvania, it's coming from the own faction of their party. So when. So when we get into a debate with someone and someone says, well, it's both sides of the aisle. It's. They're oftentimes, oftentimes using ADL statistics, Anti Defamation League statistics that frankly, you know, they do some good work, but there's a lot of time that their stuff is slanted in the wrong direction. How do we combat that debate? How would we do it like Charlie would do it?
Dan Schneider
Look, when we actually get into the trial of this sick monster who murdered Charlie, assassinated him, the left is no longer going to be able to claim that, that they can't understand what the motive of this was.
Amanda Head
Right.
Dan Schneider
You think that eventually, if they look in a mirror long enough, they'll be able to see their reflection. But Amanda, I just don't know. I don't know how we get through this brick wall of illogic.
Amanda Head
How can we convince them to shake the trans issue as a hill to die on? Because you would think that something like this would cause that. We are already, we've already seen the UK abandon it. Thankfully, you know, the UK has passed legislation and they have nationally recognized that there are two genders and. But, but we haven't gone that direction. I would think that something like this would cause the left to say, okay, this is not going to end up being a winning issue. Also, the election in November, that should have taught them that. Do you anticipate them leaving this issue behind?
Dan Schneider
You know, the fundamental, fundamental problem we're dealing with here is that the Democrat Party, that used to be, you know, mainstream Pro America party, has been hijacked by the radicals. And those radicals sort of operate with Marxist theory that they have to have change for change sake, chaos for chaos sake. So you can't, you can't speak reason to a radical who believes that chaos and change for change sake are essential elements of their agenda. I. Ultimately, regular mainstream Democrats are going to have to take their party back, rip it out of the hands of these radicals and restore their own party to something that looked what the Democrat Party looked like in the 1980s and before that. Until then, our political system is going to be, you know, in a really bad place.
Amanda Head
Yeah, I just fear that there aren't enough moderate Democrats who are willing to be loud. The only one I can really think of is just John Fetterman, and he's pretty aggressive when it comes to defending moderate Democratic values, but he's basically the only one. So I hope you're right, Dan. I hope that there are better angels within that party who emerge and fight for really the soul of the Democrat Party. Dan Schneider, thanks so much for being with us tonight.
Dan Schneider
Thanks, Amanda. Thanks Ma'.
Amanda Head
Am. All right, everybody, next we've got Colorado Congressman Jeff Crank, and he's going to be here to discuss a lot of issues. We'll just be right back. What do you think makes the perfect snack?
Jeff Crank
Hmm. It's gotta be when I'm really craving it and it's convenient.
Amanda Head
Could you be more specific?
Jeff Crank
When it's cravinient.
Amanda Head
Okay.
Jeff Crank
Like a freshly baked cookie made with.
Abe Hamade
Real butter, available right now in the street at a.m. p.m. Or a savory breakfast sandwich I can grab in just.
Amanda Head
A second at a.m. p.m. I'm seeing a pattern here.
Jeff Crank
Well, yeah, we're talking about what I.
Amanda Head
Crave, which is anything from am pm.
Jeff Crank
What more could you want? Want stop by AMPM where the snacks and drinks are perfectly craveable and convenient. That's cravinience. Am, PM Too much. Good stuff.
Amanda Head
Welcome back, everybody. Last night, many members of Congress gathered together for a vigil for Charlie Kirk in the Capitol in Statuary Hall. And we showed you that live right here on this program last night. So we are still mourning for Charlie all over this country and all of the world, really. And we all have to ask, how do we stop something like this from happening again? So joining me to discuss just that and more is Colorado Congressman Jeff Crank. Congressman, thank you so much for being here, Amanda.
Jeff Crank
Thanks for having me, sir.
Amanda Head
You know, the more that we see text messages revealed from the FBI, we hear about associations of this young man, different political groups that he was a part of. We are continuing to see this trans. Commonality. And it feels like we are hearing this with much more rapidity as we hear about these crimes and people getting shot, whether it's in schools, whether it's in churches, whether it is, in this case, at a political rally. I don't mean to demonize one segment of society, but really, how do we stop this from happening again?
Jeff Crank
Well, yeah, I think first of all, we need to investigate this. And I know that the FBI is doing that, and we. We know that it was this. This gunman who did it. But are there other people involved? And I think that the FBI needs to fully investigate that. Were there other people who encouraged him to a point where he decided that violence was the answer? And so we've really got to. To. To nail that down. And if we find other people who were involved in this, they need to be prosecuted as well, if they committed crimes. And we've really got to. To. To examine some of these groups that are out there, because if you really think about it, we've had a Couple of shootings that we had, you know, school shooting, church shooting and others where we have had some trans people involved. And is there an orchestrated effort here on the part of some in the trans community who are inciting this kind of violence and think that that is something that is acceptable or okay? Violence in our political system is never okay. You know, in my district several years ago, many years ago, and I was a talk radio show host for 14 years in my district, while I was on air many those many years, there was a shooting at a Planned Parenthood facility by a pro life activist. He was a crazy person. And at the end of the day, I mean, the first thing that I did was condemn him. Right. I'm pro life. But we have an obligation to make sure that people understand violence is not the answer. And I will just say this. While I think we all have that obligation right now, whether Republican, Democrat, conservative or liberal, all Americans have an obligation to defend our First Amendment and to condemn these kinds of attacks. But I will say that the left has. Has a problem. They need to confront it. And they are the ones that need to stand very strongly and condemn this kind of action, just like I do. But. But they need to confront this. There is a problem, I think, on the left of using political violence or violence because of political reasons.
Amanda Head
Yeah, well, and I was just talking to someone at mrc, Dan Schneider at Media Research center in the last block, and we were talking about, you know, the soul of the Democrat Party, I feel like, is lost or different or something. And, you know, you see this Mamdani effect, where the policies of the Democrat Party seem to have all of a sudden just either either created a schism in the party or have just completely changed the party altogether. How. How do we come together with a party that we don't even recognize anymore?
Jeff Crank
Yeah, well, Amanda, first of all, the attack on Charlie Kirk was an attack on America because it was attack on the values that we hold dear. And every American, Democrat or Republican in the past has held dear the right to free speech, the right to express our own views without fear of. Of violence here in America. That's what our founding fathers believed. And so if we have political parties that can't embrace that and can't understand that, that's a real problem. And you know, let's be honest, that's what the radical left, whether it's Mamdani or, you know, socialism or communism, that's what they believe, is that the government has the right to shut you down and your speech. And so we can't allow people to get to that point. I would call on every good Democrat, every good person out there on the left to stand up and really condemn this and in the strongest possible terms, say that we don't stand for this kind of violence.
Amanda Head
Congressman, I want to ask you about the vigil last night because there were a few Democrats who were there, and I hope that that is a glass glimmer of light for the Democrat Party. But for those who didn't show up, have you asked them, like, how can they justify not showing up for this? Because, like you said, this was an attack on America. Why would they not show up for an attack on America?
Jeff Crank
Yeah. No, I haven't really asked those who weren't there why they weren't there. There were some Democrats, and I give them great credit to the ones who did show up, because it does take courage to do that. And, you know, and I have to ask myself, would I show up if this were, you know, someone on the left who. There was political violence committed? And I hope that I would have the courage. I think I would have the courage to show up and condemn that. But, yeah, it's a frustrating thing. We should all, as Americans, this. This is an easy one. We see the rest of the world is mourning this. And, you know, it's Charlie Kirk, because Charlie was a good man. He was a man of faith. He was a man of God, and he loved his country, loved liberty and freedom. But at the end of the day, people are upset all around the world because they see what the idea here that was assassinated and the idea that was assassinated when Charlie Kirk was assassinated was the idea that we can disagree and still be friends. And that's a sad thing for a society. And I think to myself, all of the people who are out there, you know, these sick, sick individuals who are out there celebrating and thinking that it's okay to do that. I mean, we are morally bankrupt if. If we believe that as a society, and I believe Americans don't believe that. I think these people that are out there doing that need to go back to their. To their roots. Maybe they need to go back and have mom and dad raise them again and teach them that women, we don't celebrate those sorts of things. We celebrate life no matter if we agree or disagree with someone politically.
Amanda Head
Sir, before I let you go, I want to ask you about these numbers that we have seen regarding people requesting applications to start a chapter at their high school or their college for a Turning Point chapter. Does that give you hope? Do you anticipate that this is going to have a long reaching and long lasting effect. Effect, or is this just, you know, ephemeral in light of what happened last week? Does that give you hope?
Jeff Crank
It does. You know, Amanda, I. I knew Charlie Kirk. I served on the Air Force Academy Board of Visitors with Charlie. Not for very long, but. But for a little while. But I've known him for a while. I've been to many events and we've been speakers at events together and things like that. So I knew him, but. But I will tell you, even I was a little shocked at the reaction of the current generation, the younger generation and their reaction to this assassination, because to them it was almost a little bit of their innocence died when Charlie Kirk was assassinated. And I do think that you're seeing this uptick in hopefully in patriotism and love for the First Amendment, for the values that we all hold dear and that our Constitution protects. But I am heartened to see all of these chapters, all of these requests for new chapters and for young people to really embrace the values not just of Charlie Kirk, but frankly, they're the values of faith, of freedom, and of our Constitution. And I really am heartened by that and think that it will be a good thing in the end for our country.
Amanda Head
Yeah, I think so too. I hope so. Colorado Congressman Jeff Crank, thank you so much for joining me tonight.
Jeff Crank
Thank you, Amanda. Thanks for having me.
Amanda Head
Absolutely. All right, everybody, I've got a few more examples of some ridiculous media reactions to Charlie Kirk. So we're going to wrap up the show with that as well as some of the kind of the kind words of Vice President J.D. vance that he had to say about Charlie when he filled in for his show. We'll have that after this.
Jeff Crank
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Brian Babin
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Jeff Crank
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Amanda Head
Welcome back, everybody, to our final segment of the night. I listen, I know that sometimes we all see media headlines, we see clips on Twitter, whatever the case may be, and it just boils our blood. And I will that I am the top of the list when it comes to people who are guilty of going on X and just boiling my own blood. And at some point we do have to step away from it. But I think it's also important to keep tabs on the media and to call them out. And there is this ridiculous headline from Reuters that I want to show you. Charlie Kirk's allies warn Americans Mourn him properly or else. So first of all, this is exactly the crap that was happening before Charlie Kirk was assassinated that led to this types of stuff. It is the assertion that people on the right are forcible about something, that we are forcing you to mourn Charlie Kirk. We're not forcing you to mourn Charlie Kirk. We're not even forcing you to mourn him properly. We're not doing anything. We're just saying that you can't incite violence. You can't tweet things like, you know, who got the who's whose name is on the next bullet. I hope the bullets. Okay, you know, everyone else has a target on their back. You aren't allowed to have open season on conservatives and then act like the victim when we start calling you out. For those of you who have lost your jobs, I'm not sorry. I'm not sorry at all. And by the way, if you live in a right to work state, your boss can fire you for any reason whatsoever or no reason whatsoever. So if you live in one of Those, I believe, 28 states in this country that are right to work, and you call up an attorney trying to sue your employer for wrongful termination, you're going to get hung up on or you're going to get a very polite sorry. Read the Constitution and read the statutes under right to work because we're not going to represent you. Okay, now that I've got that off my chest, I want to show for you guys, this, this from yesterday. So Charlie Kirk, the show opened yesterday, yesterday by stating that Charlie was very smart and thanked him for garnering support for President Trump and Himself. Check this out.
Jeff Crank
Filling in for somebody who cannot be filled in for. But I'm going to try to do my best. My dear friend, the great Charlie Kirk. The last several days have been extremely hard for our country. They've been hard for me, hard for my family, hard for the countless people in this building who knew and loved Charlie Kirk. And of course, they've been hardest, most of all for his darling wife, Erica and their two beautiful children. The thing is, every single person into this building, we owe something to Charlie. He was a joyful warrior for our country. He loved America. He devoted himself tirelessly to making our country a better place. He was a critical part of getting Donald Trump elected as president, getting me elected as vice president. And so much of our success over the last seven months is due to his efforts, his staffing, his support, and his friendship.
Amanda Head
Just incredible. What, what an incredible and indelible mark and legacy that Charlie Kirk has left on this country and the entire world. As I said, I mean, we all woke up to the news that there were prayer vigils popping up all over the world. And I will echo what one of my guests said today. When you look at, you know, the wake of the George Floyd riots and you know, the summer of love and antifa and all of the times that when they were mad, when they were angry, when they felt hurt, when someone of when one of their own was killed or hurt, the reaction that they had was destruction and the reaction that Charlie Kirk supporters, the people who loved him and knew him and just followed him, the people who supported him, very, very different reactions, peaceful protests, not even protests, just people out there praying for the family and praying for this country. It's a stark difference. Have a great night.
Jeff Crank
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Brian Babin
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Jeff Crank
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Jeff Crank
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Jeff Crank
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Abe Hamade
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Amanda Head
This is an iHeart podcast.
Episode Date: September 16, 2025
Podcast: Real America’s Voice | iHeartPodcasts
Host: Amanda Head (with regular co-host John Solomon absent—on assignment)
Main Guests: Rep. Brian Babin (TX), Rep. Abe Hamade (AZ), Dan Schneider (MRC), Rep. Jeff Crank (CO)
Episode Theme: Aftermath and analysis of Charlie Kirk’s assassination; Media narratives; Political violence; The response from the right and left; Impact on the nation and young conservatives
This episode centers on the political and media fallout from the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. Host Amanda Head leads conversations dissecting media narratives, law enforcement updates, accusations of left-wing radicalization, and ongoing investigations. The show spotlights how major news outlets, public figures, and Democrats have responded to the tragedy, as well as how conservatives are mobilizing in Kirk’s memory. Guests include Republican members of Congress and Dan Schneider from the Media Research Center.
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Notable Quotes Recap
For full discussions on border security, congressional actions, and the legacy of Charlie Kirk—as well as specific critiques of media coverage and bipartisan reactions—refer to the detailed segment breakdown above.