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Just the News No Noise with John Solomon and Amanda Head, September 18th, 2025
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This is an I Heart podcast. Good evening, everybody. Welcome to the Thursday edition of Just the News. No noise. I'm your host, Amanda Head reporting to you from the nation's capital here in Washington D.C. my co host and Just the News editor in chief John Solomon is out on assignment tonight. But the news just has not slowed down at all, has it? Last week, last night, ABC Disney announced shortly after the show ended that they would be indefinitely suspending Jimmy Kimmel's show after comments that he made about the alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk. And honestly, if you were just watching CNN or MSNBC or any of the mainstream media, you would have thought that the republic was, was crumbling down and burning before our very eyes. They devoted wall to wall coverage of this. They made a much bigger deal about this than the assassination of Charlie Kirk, for example, and claimed that this was one of the most brazen attacks on free speech that the country has ever seen. Except for, you know, the one that happened last week on a college campus in Utah where Charlie Kirk was assassinated for standing up for free speech. But the media also used it as an excuse to claim once again that the right is fascist and authoritarian. All after that same rhetoric is exactly what got Charlie Kirk killed. So let me play you one of the short clips from Kimmel that got him into this whole mess in the first place. And then we're going to talk a little bit about what happened after we.
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Hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to, to score political points from it.
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My goodness. So that is one of the things that he said regarding Charlie Kirk's murder, and it was of course a lie. The shooter is not even remotely maga. In fact, everything that we can tell from him that we have learned from investigators is that he was extremely left wing. But after heavy outrage from the public and broadcasters like nexstar and Sinclair, Sinclair basically saying, you know what? That's it, enough is enough. Then we've got this other thought that I want to show you from Brendan Carr. Check it out.
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Broadcast TV is different. We're on a cable show right now. You don't have an FCC license, you don't have an obligation to serve the public interest. Podcasts don't either. Stand up comedians, whether they're on lots of forms of communications, don't. And Kimmel is free to do that. But if you have a broadcast TV license, that means that you have something that very few People have and you're excluding other people from having access to that valuable public resource. And it comes with an obligation to serve the public interest.
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My goodness. And that was enough for the left to cry victim once again after doing much worse to conservatives and the First Amendment for absolutely years. So remember when the Biden administration actually worked with social media companies during COVID to silence opinions of regular Americans that they did not like on the vaccine and a whole host of other things. It's many times worse than what happened here with Kimmel and an actual attack on free speech. But worse still, Democrats in the media were applauding this when it happened to conservatives. For example, here's Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio Cortez after Tucker Carlson was fired from Fox News. Tucker Carlson is out at Fox News. Couldn't have happened to a better guy. De platforming works and it is important. And there you go. Good things can happen. Oh, well, that's good to know. De platforming works and good things can happen. That was AOC, a sitting U.S. congresswoman praising a broadcaster for firing an employee for free speech that she just didn't like. And I'm going to do you one better. Here is Senator Chuck Schumer calling for the firing of Tucker Carlson before it happened.
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Rupert Murdoch, who has admitted they were lies and said he regretted it, has a special obligation to stop Tucker Carlson.
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From going on tonight now that he's.
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Seen how he is perverted and slimed the truth and from letting him go on again and again and again.
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And even Jimmy Kimmel himself celebrated this sort of thing that we are talking about right now. Here he is on air rejoicing after Tucker Carlson was fired.
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Fox News has severed bow ties with Tucker Carlson after all these years. They are parting ways, which means he was fired.
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I mean, that's really what parting ways means.
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Tucker couldn't be reached for comment.
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He's already on a plane to Moscow.
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To meet with his manager.
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But what a shock.
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I mean, what an absolutely delightful shock.
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This is.
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Parting ways. Well, you would know, Jimmy. You're about to find out what that legalese is coming from your higher up. So while the media spent morning to evening attempting to spin the narrative that free speech is over in the United States because of poor little Jimmy Kimmel. Remember that they all to a man celebrated and glorified de platforming on the right, not only saying that it wasn't an attack on free speech, but also saying it was the only way to save democracy in America. These people have absolutely no shame and they are looking for any reason whatsoever to change the narrative from the murder of Charlie Kirk to make themselves look like the victims. Do not let them do it, please. All right, so with that said, it's time to get to our very first guest of tonight, Congressman from Indiana, Marlon Stutzman. Congressman, thanks so much for being here.
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Good morning, good afternoon. Evening, Amanda. Great to be with you.
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Great to have you, sir. And the media is trying to do this switcheroo. Even a congresswoman from Texas today on the House floor tried to make it happen. She tried to turn this into something that it wasn't there. They're continuing to try this, but it's not working this time, is it?
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No, it's not. And you know, what we all need to remember, Amanda, is that this is a bit of show business. And so when all of a sudden these companies realize that there's a show or this broadcast on this late night show with Jimmy Kimmel, which I think is a bad show, I would try to watch it from time to time. And it's just a bad show. But the fact that they knew their audience wasn't going to receive it. Well, I find it interesting, Amanda, you know, Brian Williams was fired for lying. You had Dan Rather, who was let go from cbs, and you have more on the left. I remember one time, of course, you know, the Tucker Carlson situation is, is the one that, you know, they always like to talk about. But I remember even when the Robertsons from Duck Dynasty, they were, you know, tried, they tried to cancel them, and they were off the air for a little bit, the family said, fine, we're all off, rather than just Phil, pretty soon they brought him back because he didn't do anything wrong. And they also knew that it was good for the audience because the audience liked him. And so I look at it a little bit from that perspective, and I find it ironic that they were pretty quick to, to just let him go because I think they knew they had probably other opportunities and better options than what Jimmy's show was actually producing.
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Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, when you have workhorses on the right, like poor Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, acting NSA director, national archivist, still, I believe, in charge of usaid, a lot of people are like, well, just put it, you know, Marco Rubio can pinch him, but you've got workhorses on the right, people like you who are willing to do the work. And I want to use this as a segue to get into the work of Congress because you guys are already planning ahead for what's the to come in this cr and, you know, in light of what happened to Charlie Kirk last week, I think that there are going to be a lot of calls for protections and maybe even investigations into groups that continue to always have some type of connection to these types of violent situations. Tell us about what's on your platter and what you're focusing on in the cr.
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Yeah, well, you know, obviously it's difficult to get any sort of budget bill passed the Senate. We could get it passed in the House because we only need 51% or, you know, 50 plus one to pass the bill. But in the Senate, because of the 60 vote cloture rule, you have to get several Democrats to agree and Chuck Schumer and the Democrats just won't do that. I mean, they might be able to get one or two Democrats to do it, but they just won't get there. So it won't even happen. So that's why the continuing resolution, which I think is the right move right now. In fact, you know what it's interesting to see, it'll be interesting to see how the Democrats act through all this and handle all of this, because if they shut the government down, you know, President Trump actually has much more authority and power when they, when we don't pass a budget because he's then in charge of running the government rather than Congress. And so the Democrats are in a really bad spot. They don't, they will, of course, want to increase spending. They want to, of course, increase taxes. But this is, I think, the right strategy that President Trump has asked for is that we do an extension. If we can get the appropriations bills passed, then we can, of course, you know, move as many of those across the finish line as possible. But it'll be difficult to pass in the Senate. But I think, you know, one thing that's important. You know, you mentioned Charlie Kirk's death. You know, some of the investigations that are going to take place and need to take place is just this, you know, the deep dark web, the deep, you know, the deep state that we have talked about a lot and we've always been suspicious of it. And now that, you know, even Senator Grassley has announced this Arctic Frost program that the Democrats had when they were in office. So I think that's the other important thing for us to be, you know, paying a lot of attention to is this is putting our kids in a very dangerous spot. And, you know, who are they talking to online and the whole gaming industry and the dark spots of the web that are very dangerous for our Kids. So my hope is that we're going to have a lot of conversations about security, you know, about, you know, there's going to be members of Congress that want to talk about more security for members of Congress and for elected officials across the country and high profile individuals. But we need to talk about the safety and security for our kids from the information that they receive online.
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Absolutely. And just touching on Arctic Frost, the investigation that you were talking about spying on over 100 conservative leaning or GOP organizations. Congressman, I think back to Lois Lerner and the IRS scandal. And granted, after that scandal, you still were kind of hard pressed to find Democrats who would denounce it. But there were plenty of Republicans at the time who said, we're never going to let this happen again. This can't let it happen again. And here we are.
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Yeah, no, that's right. And that's why I'm so grateful for President Trump and his administration. You know, the way that they weaponized the DOJ against President Trump, the way they went after him, I mean, he was on the receiving end of this. And honestly, Amanda, there wouldn't, there's not too many presidential candidates on the Republican side that could actually handle it because they would have buried them financially into legal issues and they just wouldn't have ever been able to recover. But, you know, God bless President Trump for being willing to spend the money and fight these fights. You know, he just filed lawsuit against NBC and he's, you know, he's taken on the big media giants for, you know, for the roles that they've played. And so I remember back when he started calling them fake news and you know what? It's proven out to be true. And they just continued to push these false narratives like we saw with Jimmy Kimmel. And the fact that the FCC chairman even had to say anything is disappointing that, you know, Disney just didn't make that decision. Because as soon as you hear that and you watch the news, you obviously know that his narrative was completely false and lying to the American people.
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Right. I want to ask you, because there is an organization out there who I think is very deserving of scrutiny. And President Trump apparently agrees when it comes to antifa and designated them a domestic terror organization. This is a group that has burned down cities, burned down police precincts, killed people, maimed people. I mean, the list goes on and on and on. And Congressman, I still can't find a Democrat out there who will roundly and resoundingly denounce them. What are you hearing from Democrats when it comes to that classification, they're still.
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Defending, you know, this narrative that, you know. Well, it happens on both sides. And I'm just. I'm sorry. I mean, you know, and I'll say this just because I think it's important for those of us on the right. Anybody on the right claims to be a Republican, responding in violence is absolutely the wrong thing to do. It's just not proper at all. We condemn the left, we condemn this assassin for shooting Charlie Kirk. The. The assassination attempt on President Trump, the shooter up in Minnesota, on the Democrat state representatives that were assassinated. All of it needs to be condemned. And yet they. They just try to find this soft spot, like, well, you know, you know, we need to protest peacefully. But if we Remember back in 2020, they were burning cities down. I mean, if this would have been a liberal commentator that would have been assassinated instead of Charlie Kirk, I mean, who knows what would be happening in the country right now? So there is a double standard. And I just believe that we as conservatives need to continue to pursue righteousness. We need to pursue what's right in this country, and we have to call out what is, what's wrong and when, say the untruth, that we need to call them out for it.
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Yeah. Well, to borrow a phrase from Charlie Kirk, during the summer of love in 2020, Floyda Palooza, as he used to call it, it was all fiery, but mostly peaceful protests. We all remember that phrase that they used. Sir, before I want to. Before I let you go, I want to ask you. There is a vigil for Charlie Kirk taking place in one of Indiana's many beautiful little towns in Fort Wayne, Indiana. As I understand it, you guys have only had the RSVP open for about 48 hours, and already 3,000 people, or over 3,000 people have. Have responded.
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Yeah, I mean, it's just incredible to see the outpouring of where people are at. You know, it'd be so easy for people to just want to go hide and stay safe and stay out of the public and, you know, because of what's happened in Utah. But I actually, I think the response is different. And we're seeing it, obviously with TP USA's inquiries to start chapters of over 50,000 inquiries. And here we have, you know, these vigils, prayer vigils, people of faith getting together and just. I think they want to be together. They want to just let the world know that we are not going to be silenced, that we value our religious freedom, we value our freedom of speech. But it's inspiring, honestly, because People aren't going to be quiet. And I think that actually there's going to be so many people across this country that are going to stand up and be bold for what they believe in in America. And that America is good.
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I think so, too. And I think for this youngest generation, seeing Charlie Kirk shot, I mean, the video unfortunately went viral a thousand times over. And seeing that happen with their own eyes, I think has left an indelible mark on their hearts and their minds. And I hope that the response to that is spreading brush fires of freedom in this country. And it seems like they're doing that with those chapter requests. It's amazing to see. And I know a lot of them are going to be there in Indiana.
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Yeah, it really is. I told my son who was a TPUSA chapter president at Liberty University, said, you know, dad, this is our 9 11. And I said, well, it is. I said, but sadly, this enemy is from within our country rather than outside of our country. Both horrific incidences. But this is an enemy from within, and it's one that has to be faced and defeated.
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Yeah, look, someone who is standing up for civil rights, especially for the youngest generation, someone who spoke truth to power and someone who was a minority within his generation, that was Charlie Kirk. That was also MLK. So you think about the long reaching effects of MLK's assassination and what he stood for, and I don't think it's too far off to say that Charlie Kirk is going to be regarded in this same way. Indiana Congressman Marlon Sutzman, always a joy to have you here tonight, sir. Thank you so much for being here.
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Thanks, Amanda.
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Absolutely. All right, everybody. After the break, we're going to talk more about President Trump designating antifa a terrorist organization. It's about time, isn't it?
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Welcome back to Just the News. No noise. President Trump is finally officially going after a major source of all of the rioting and political violence taking place in this country, and that has been for the last several years, announcing yesterday that he is designating antifa a terrorist organization. And we also found out yesterday that the Department of Justice under Joe Biden was investigating almost 100 Republican aligned groups after the 2020 election, including, of course, Turning Point USA in a probe called Arctic Frost. So joining me now to discuss both of those things is FBI whistleblower Marcus Allen returning to the show. Marcus, thanks so much for being here.
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Thanks for having me on. Good evening.
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Good evening. All right. I want to talk about Arctic Frost because this took place, I mean, technically it was under, it was the time that you were at the FBI. This was obviously not a part of your purview. But when you hear that something like this was going on, are you surprised?
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No, I'm not really that surprised at all. As a former professional there working under the domestic terrorism program and the international terrorism program, it really doesn't shock me based on the conference calls that I was a party to while I worked there. And just, you know, some of the ideology that's prevalent within the walls of the organization. We always want to look for criminal activity or some kind of crime of violence or action when it comes to ideologies. But it was obviously, you know, there is a left leaning flavor to terrorism world in the Bureau.
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Yeah. Well, and we know that that threshold for investigation became quite flexible under the Biden administration. I want to ask you though, because, you know, I have consistently held that most FBI agents are like you. Most FBI agents compare. They care about this country. They are patriots and they want to do what is best for the safety of this nation. But I think about the scope of an investigation that wraps up at least 100 or up to 100 organizations. How many agents would it take to investigate this many organizations?
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I mean, up to 100 organizations? This is kind of like it would be a primary focus for a lot of the field offices. And so what the SSAs and those individual task forces would be doing. They would know that these organizations would be a priority. And then if they're conducting their jobs honestly, what they're going to be looking for is any kind of, you know, act of violence, allegation of actual criminal activity more so than the actual ideology.
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Yeah. Marcus, I want to ask you because, I mean, John and I, over and over and over again, we commend you and honor you for your courage in speaking out. You and a whole host of other whistleblowers, specifically from the FBI. Do you anticipate that even though the FBI is now under Kash Patel, but maybe because it is now under Kash Patel, that others might feel a little bit more at liberty and feel a little bit safer in speaking out about things that they saw under Chris Wray's tenure?
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Yeah, it would definitely be helpful if we had more whistleblowers come forward and speak out against what they're seeing internally. I know I was privy to conference calls where, you know, if it was something happening on the left, it was kind of pooh, poohed. But if it was on the right side, it seemed like it got more attention, which was irksome, obviously. But the thing we always look for is criminal activity. The issue with the targeting in an operation like Arctic Frost is now you're tasking assets, you're tasking sources to go out and try to find things going on with these organizations. So you're applying a little bit more pressure in the sense of you're looking into these organizations where there might not actually be an allegation of criminal activity. So your predicate for even looking into these organizations in the first place is not even there. So that's a major issue to be concerned with.
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Yeah. Do you think that culture has changed? I mean, I think it has changed at the top, obviously, with Cash Patel and Dan Bongino. But that's a culture that can. That can spread throughout an entire organization pretty quickly.
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Yeah, I really think it depends. I think a lot of folks there, unfortunately, they just look at what's coming, you know, straight at them on their computer screen, and they just put their heads down and they try to focus on what their task directly in front of them is. And unfortunately, it's like administrations come and administrations go. So it really depends on who's in charge at the top as far as what direction the organization's gonna go. So if someone wicked is in charge, then obviously more wicked things are gonna occur. And if someone good is in charge, then they're gonna do things that are generally more good. The issue to me is the people who just put their head down and go along to get along so they can keep their paychecks coming in. So in that regard, I think it's very difficult to change the culture there when people know that, you know, every four years, you know, the flavor is going to change.
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Mm. Yeah. I think that's a really astute observation. And I want to ask you, because of your experience in the terrorism field at the FBI, I want to ask you about the designation of Antifa as a terrorist organization. We saw what they did in, you know, the Summer of love back in 2020, following George Floyd riots and even before that, you know, burning down cities, burning down police precincts. President Trump was sent to a bunker because of their activity just across the street from the White House when it comes to. Because I know President Trump has spoken to Attorney General Pam Bondi about bringing, possibly bringing RICO charges against some of these organizations because of. Because of that pyramid structure of them and obviously their donors at the top. Do you think that that is a smart way to go?
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Yeah, I definitely do think that can be productive with designating them an actual terrorist group. I'm more familiar with that. On the international terrorism side with the Immigration and Nationality act section 219. I think there could be potential pay dirt here because Antifa did originally start in Europe. So if they could find some way to internationally connect them with groups in Europe, I think it'll go a long way in helping them to actually designate the organization as a terrorist organization. If they can establish that international tie and then they can get more focus on them. And obviously you want to go towards the funding. Like during the Summer of Love, we had pallets of bricks showing up and nobody knew where these pallets of bricks were showing up on the edge of towns across the nation. It was like a big mystery, which was shocking to a lot of us internally as to why are we not investigating this? Like, why are we not trying to figure out where these pallets of bricks are coming from that, you know, these rioters are then using against police officers or to destroy property?
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Did we ever look into that, by the way, the palace of Bricks? I mean, I feel like with. It feels like everything is under surveillance these days. That seems like some pretty low hanging fruit, right?
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Yeah, that seems like a layup. Right? It should be pretty easy to figure out, like, where are these pallets of bricks coming from? So it's kind of one of those issues of like, you know, if you don't investigate it doesn't mean that a crime didn't occur. It just means that your organization, for whatever reason, chose not to investigate it. So it's like, you know, you talk about sins of commission and sins of omission, like, why did we not try to run to ground those types of activities that were occurring.
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Yeah. Gosh, it's also unfortunate. So when it comes to that pyramid structure that we talked about, with the funding at the top, constitutionally, can we go after someone like George Soros or Open Societies, Open Societies Foundation. If they are offered short, if they're not based here in the US what do we do?
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Right. I mean, if you can, if you can identify the organizations, identify the personnel and what their stated policy goals are and where that money is, like follow the money, where the money is actually going and what it's being used for, then that's something that could be potentially investigated for criminal activity. But obviously you'll have to have your investigators focused on that, smoking that out and then literally having, you know, the presentations and the data to back up. You know, they spent $1 million on X and this is where the money went and the type of activities that it went to. So they're going to have to, I mean, the organization is big enough that if they wanted to focus on those outfits, they could do so intensely. It's just a matter of are the personnel in the organization, you know, under direct orders, you know, going to, going to follow through as long as they're an allegation of criminal activity, which in this case, that's what they're trying to allege.
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Right. So when it comes to designating antifa a terrorist organization, what is the benefit of that as far as law enforcement and investigative purposes?
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Right. So it's going to signal internally to the personnel and then it should also receive more funding so that more investigative assets are tasked towards that particular problem. So like with the ranking structure of investigations, if something is ranked low, then it's not going to get a lot of resources aimed at it. It's not, not going to get a lot of investigators, it's not going to get a lot of money and other assets coming to bear on that problem. So if it becomes more of a problem, then naturally you're going to have more of your investigative focus at the field office level structured towards that, as well as the funding that the Bureau gets in its budget geared towards that as well. So there is some benefit to it.
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Yeah, that's good to know. Good to know. FBI whistleblower and hero Marcus Allen. Thanks so much, Marcus, for being with us tonight.
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Thank you.
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Absolutely. All right, everybody, after the break, we're going to talk about the upcoming boot Camp for Patriots event put on by amac. And one of the headline speakers is my co host here on this show, John Solomon. So we're going to tell you how you can go in person after this break.
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Welcome back, Everybody. Next Saturday, September 27th at 12 Eastern, Boot Camp for Patriots is going to take place where our very own John Solomon is going to be one of the key speakers. Joining me now to Discuss that is AMAC's chief technology officer, Dave Kane. Dave, welcome back. Great to see you.
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Thank you, Amanda. It's great to be back. Thank you so much for having me.
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Happy to have you. And I'm excited to talk about this. So tell us, what is boot camp for patriots?
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So boot camp for Patriots is an idea that AMEC came up with as we felt that, you know, with mainstream media being what it is today, and we all know what that is, that's why a lot of us tune into your show and John show and all the other great hosts on rap where you're not getting the true story. You get this rhetoric and it's like almost synchronized across the networks. We felt we needed to get started. Grassroots program where we go into the neighborhoods and we explain to people what the real truth is. And that's what we speak. Just like Rav Amex speaks the truth. And we get panels on things like immigration, election integrity, the WOKE ideology, in schools where especially in Virginia where they have males can restrooms where females are a girl's restroom. Think five school districts in Northern Virginia just recently doubled down on that allowing them to be in it. So we teach people from the community how to get involved because a lot of people know Amanda, I'm just one person. What could I possibly do? Well, there's a lot of one person all that have done a lot such as Charlie Kirk and Charlie was due to speak at our event and unfortunately we all know what happened there and so we're doubling down. We're not going to cancel the event. There is some concerns across the board of security for everyone that's in this space where you're a media personality and you and you want to speak the truth and someone doesn't like your, your message. So rather than just debate you like Charlie was a fan of. They just want to eradicate you. So we're teaching normal people that don't otherwise have the time or the really the, the just the wherewithal to go through all this and sift through it all. We bring them in, we have a four hour event, bunch of great speakers panels and things like that and try to educate them, learn how to become a poll watcher, learn how to, excuse me, how to run for your school board and make a difference in your child's and your child's school.
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I think that's fantastic. And honestly, it makes me sick to death. I worry so much about people like you, like John Solomon, high profile people in the conservative movement who quite frankly have targets on their back. And I lose sleep over it because I worry that there are more Tyler Robinsons out there who have just absolutely lost their minds with hatred and let's face it, I mean it's driven by the rhetoric of the left. But when it comes to that void that Charlie Kirk leaves behind, I know that you guys are working very, very hard and diligently to do a lot of the things that Charlie Kirk talked about when it comes to getting involved. Obviously you talked about the poll watching and even running for school board or city council or things like that. Do you provide people with the steps to do that? Like filling out the paperwork, all of the logistics of actually making that happen.
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That's absolutely correct. And our 501C3AMAC action also has a program where we, if you're really interested in becoming and making a difference, you can become an AMAC delegate or ambassador and we take you and we give you the tools and teach you how to hold chapter meetings and how to get, you know, organized within your community. Where take that one person and now all of a sudden you have a group of 12 to 20 people that are out there speaking. So we definitely give you the tools and the know how, how to make a difference in your community. And that's what we're really trying to do. So when we go to Virginia, we've held them in Florida, Bucks County, Pennsylvania, held them right here in Long Island, New York. And Ron Como, which was great event. And we, we focus on what's important for that local area because that's what really matters. And if we can take it to each state and one state at a time, focus on what's important there. I mean, let's face it, election integrity is important all over the United States. But in some states it's of particular importance. You have the Eric voting systems as opposed to the Save Voting SAVE Act. So we do a lot of education on that. So people, because the normal person doesn't even know what the Saved act is, we tend to live in a bubble. You, I, myself, John and everyone, because this is what we do and we're passionate about it. Most people, they come home, they turn on a half hour of news. Depending on where you get it from, you're not getting the real story. We're trying to go out in local communities and give the real story, teach people how to get involved, and it's great. And John Solomon, as you said on your earlier block, he's going to be one of the speakers. He's one of our headliners. Him and Rebecca, our CEO, Rebecca Weber, they co host the show. And John's been doing every single one of them. And he has such a, he does such a great job. And we're really appreciative of RAV and all of you. We have several RAV hosts. We have Ben Berkwam, who's going to be on the, on the immigration panel. We have David Brody showing up. We have so many RAV hosts coming. We have such a great relationship with you guys. And we just, it's a fun time. To quote John, John Solomon. This is a lot of fun. He, that guy says that all the time. So it's going to be a fun day.
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He somehow manages to make things that can be quite stressful, very fun.
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And he is, he's, he's a calming influence, for sure.
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He is indeed. And, you know, and Rebecca Weber is great. I mean, they are a dynamic duo when they host together. So I'm so excited that they are reuniting for this. Tell everybody about the logistics of this where is it? How do they get tickets? All that good stuff.
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So it's at Patrick Henry College a week from Saturday, September 27, from 12 to 4pm Doors will open at 11:30 and its tickets can be purchased at amac.usforward/boot camp. Come on down. It's going to be a great time. You know, collaborate with, you know, people like minded and learn how to make a difference in your community and overall United States.
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I love it. Dave, before I let you go, as we are heading into next year in just a few months, I can't believe we're rolling up on, I mean, it's fall, basically move by as we head into next year, which is a midterm year.
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We.
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When you look at all of the issues facing this country right now, when it comes to that midterm, retaining the majority, making sure the elections are clean, what do you see as the biggest pressing issue that you want to talk about at all of these boot camps? Because like you said, I mean, this affects the entire country.
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Well, I think the biggest issue as far as the midterms, we actually coined the phrase for this particular one, is march towards the midterms. I think the most important thing for midterms is, is election integrity. We've all seen from previous elections that there's a lot of nefarious things going on where you have phantom voters, dead voters, ballots being thrown away, you know, full boxes of ballots lost in the trash, things like that. So I think that's the most pressing issue for the midterms. And there's a lot of key battles, as you know, Amanda, in this next race, where if we lose the House and or the Senate, the final two years of Donald Trump's term is going to be what they like to call lame duck. And I pray, I pray to God that does not happen because we're making some moves in the right direction. Some on the left might retort that point of mind, but I feel we're going in the right direction. And, you know, so that to me is the most important thing, especially for Virginia voters, is the election integrity.
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Absolutely. And look, I know it's traditionally low turnout for the midterms, but he's exactly right, guys. If you want President Trump to be able to continue trucking down this road with his agenda, if Republicans don't keep the majority next November, it ain't going to happen. So thank you for those words of wisdom. Dave Kane from amac, thanks so much for joining us tonight. And remember, everybody, boot camp for Patriots is going to be Saturday. September 27th. Make sure to tune in or get your tickets to be there live by going to to AMAC US Boot Camp. All right, everybody, we're going to take a very quick break and we'll be back on the other side. Welcome back, everybody. The tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk has not only shaken the conservative movement, but also reignited questions about the role of social media in future fueling division. Because of all this, Utah, or after all of this, Utah's governor, Spencer Cox, he is urging Americans to step back from toxic platforms. So joining me now to talk about all of this is senior research associate at the center for Technology and the Human Person at the Heritage Foundation, Daniel Cochran. Daniel, thanks so much for being here.
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Thank you for having me.
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Oh, boy. Daniel. So I used to have an addiction to solitaire on my phone, and it's because I tried to stay off social media because it was toxic. And then going into last year's election, I got back on social media because I felt like it was important. And now I feel like I should go back to solitaire because everything I see on social media is about this hateful person on the left saying something vile and wicked. This person getting fired from their job because they said something on social media that was vile and wicked. And it's just this vicious cycle. And quite frankly, it's boiling my blood. And maybe that's not good for me.
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Well, I think it's not. It's terrible for you, and it's terrible for every other American. And I think what's really important to underscore is that this isn't an accident. The fact that you see the most divisive, hateful, violent content on a daily basis on social media is because the companies that run it designed it that way. They make money when you keep scrolling, when your eyes are fixed on their apps, and they know from studying your brain that violent content keeps you scrolling. So as long as they make money, they're going to continue to show you that content. But I think as Governor Cox underscored and as the speaker of the House Mike Johnson underscored, this is really bad for our rhetoric, especially during national times of crisis and especially in the aftermath of the horrific events just about a week ago, we need to take a very different path and hold these companies accountable for the content and the way that they're designing their algorithms and their products.
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Yeah. But, Daniel, here's the thing, and I'm going to be very, very candid here as I walk around town and I look at my fellow human and I know what the demographics are in Washington, D.C. and I can't help but feel a certain way about the people that I am surrounded by, the people who I'm sure are tweeting all of the things that I'm seeing on social media, who feel exactly the same way as some of these posts that we have seen. And I just keep thinking to myself, how do we coexist with these people and how do we change their mind? Because. And it's more than a mind problem, it's a heart problem. And how do we get that deep in them that we can reverse that?
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Yeah. Well, I think that one of the pernicious effects of social media is its tendency to foster echo chambers. So essentially surrounding you with the content and the people and the views that the algorithm predicts you're most likely to agree with and engage with, or the content that's most likely to make you angry. But the problem is those echo chambers create false perceptions of reality. And look, we're still very early in the investigation and indeed the case against the assassin, so I don't want to speak prematurely, but what we do know so far is that it appears he was heavily involved online. He had logged over 2,000 hours on Steam, he appears to have confessed the murder on Discord, and one of his high school colleagues called him a Reddit kit. Someone who was perpetually online. And folks have underscored, and I want to underscore here, how being perpetually online and enmeshed in these social media and gaming platforms, they can disconnect you from reality and they can cause you to think in ways that are unnatural and really probably wouldn't happen apart from the platforms and the communities that they make possible. So here's what I'm saying. I'm not arguing for censorship, but I am arguing for these companies to. To be held accountable for how they design these platforms and the fact that only a handful of companies have a monopoly on the control and the flow of our information. That's why every time we have a violent incident, these companies get to decide unilaterally whether we see it or whether we don't. And oftentimes there's bias in that. You know, when something happens to conservatives or when it concerns a conservative figure, we often see censorship.
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Censorship.
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But when it, when it happens to a left wing figure, we often see all kinds of changes to the algorithms and the content in order to favor the left side of the aisle. Most of these companies have policies on their platform that prohibit violent content. And I think we need to start Asking, are they enforcing those policies consistently on both the left and the right? And I think Silicon Valley's bias is cause for concern here because we know overwhelmingly these, these companies are left leaning. And overwhelmingly they're, they're partial when, when, when they enforce these policies and they determine what content we see online.
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A
Yeah. Daniel, I want to ask you one, one thing before I let you go. With Jimmy Kimmel being yanked off the air, I'm seeing a lot of people saying, oh, what happened to free speech in the United States? But I wasn't aware that there was a clause under the First Amendment that talks about libel, slander, and just flat out lying that's included in protections under the First Amendment. Am I wrong?
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Well, look, I think that these public television stations have a duty to operate in the public interest. And if they're not operating in the public interest, they can have their licenses revoked. And that's indeed what the FCC chairman talked about. And I think it's justified to look into taking those measures when institutions of power, especially that have centralized control of our information spaces, abuse public trust. I think it's warranted and we need to look at doing that more.
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Yeah, absolutely. And it sends a message, I think that a lot of folks last night when they saw that Jimmy Kimmel has been taken off the air until further notice, they thought to themselves, you know what? He's been spewing this type of stuff for a long time, and that cannot be in the public interest. I don't know how you twist it to make that true, but Daniel Cochran, always a joy having you here. Thank you so much for being here tonight.
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C
Thank you.
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Absolutely. All right, everybody, next, George Soros is getting called out. We're going to tell you why. Next.
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Welcome back to our final segment of the night. Following the assassination of Charlie Kirk, the Trump administration is trying to buckle down on radical leftist groups who foment violence and rioting. For example, as we talked about earlier in the show, President Trump's announcement of designating anti as a domestic terrorist group and investigating anyone who is funding these organizations. And one alleged connection to all of the protests that we've seen throughout the country in recent years is billionaire George Soros and his reported funding through his Open Societies Foundation. And now one watchdog group is calling him out on it. Joining me now is the chairman of that group, the National Legal and Policy Center, Peter Flaherty. Peter, thanks so much for being here.
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Hi, Amanda.
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All right, tell us what you guys are doing because I think that there are millions of Americans who are ready to just shut it down.
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G
Well, I don't know about shutting it down, but last week we sent a letter to Alex Soros who chairs the Soros Foundation. Daddy Soros put his son in charge of it a couple of years ago. And we made a very simple request that the Open Society Foundations, so called, end their financial support for two groups, two groups in particular, Indivisible and move on. These are the primary organizers of these nationwide campaigns. We've seen the messaging from both the organizers and the participants is always that Trump is a fascist, he's a Hitler, his supporters are extremists and white supremacists. And this kind of messaging has been persistent. And we've seen it in their so called no kings protest days. And we've seen it during the Tesla takedown protest which was accompanied by all the violence, the arson, the vandalism of Teslas and so forth. So the point I would make to Alex Soros is if you don't want the federal government pouring over your books, why don't you do the socially responsible thing and end support for these two groups?
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A
Is there a way that we can legally kick their influence out of the country?
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Well, you know, the president can do some things that he's not done yet. One of them is to appoint an effective commissioner of the irs. He appointed a former congressman named Billy Long. He lasted two months. The post is presently vacant. The tax exempt division of the irs, which has oversight of groups like Sources foundation, is largely ineffective. There's no revenue in it, usually for the irs, so it's been neglected over the years. The last effective head of the tax exempt division we had was Lois Lerner, and she was effective for all the wrong reasons. President Trump should appoint an IRS commissioner who's committed to even handed application of the law. We believe that there are many, many violations of the tax exempt status of the groups that George Soros is funding.
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A
Yeah, I mean, look, I get that that is not a revenue earner for the United States of America, but I would categorize this under national security. And I think that national security is pretty valuable, whether it's in dollars and cents or human lives.
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G
Well, that's right. And look at how this spending is tearing our country apart. The Charlie Clark Kirk assassination apparently had no impact on indivisible or move on. In fact, they're doubling down. They've planned yet another national day of protests. It'll be number 11 for October 18th. And if you look at their press releases and emails over the last few days, they haven't tempered their message at all. So let's. Let's. But we can all, as Americans demand that Soros act like a citizen and do the decent and socially responsible thing and stop funding this division and madness.
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A
Yeah. For years and years, I was watching the multiple seasons that Leah Remini did about Scientology, and she talked ad nauseam about the impact that taking away their tax exempt status, the effect that that would have. I imagine it's the same thing with this. I mean, it would ultimately. I mean, it would. It would go a long way in destroying them. Right.
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G
Well, look at all these tax exempt groups that are taking part in operations to tip off illegal aliens to impending raids by ICE there's no way you can argue that that's a tax exempt activity. And it's. And it's being. It's being done in many parts of the country, but particularly in L. A where they even have a coalition of 24 tax exempt groups who are part of this network to alert illegal aliens to law enforcement actions.
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Unbelievable. I mean, it feels so criminal. Just unbelievable. Chairman of the National Legal and Policy Center, Peter Flaherty. Always a pleasure having you here, sir. Thank you so much for this and thank you for the good work that your organization is doing.
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G
You bet, Amanda. Thank you.
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Absolutely. All right, everybody, that's going to do it for us tonight. But tomorrow night, I will be back here and I'm going to wrap up the show solo without my esteemed co host, John Solomon. But he's going to be back right there in that chair next to me on Monday. So tune in again tomorrow night at 7, 6pm Eastern, and we will see you then. Bye. This is an I Heart podcast.