Just the News No Noise with John Solomon and Amanda Head, September 30th, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Just the News No Noise" with John Solomon & Amanda Head

Real America’s Voice — September 30th, 2025

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Brief Overview

In this episode of "Just the News No Noise," John Solomon and Amanda Head, joined by contributors Doug and select guests, deliver analysis and commentary focused on several timely political and cultural topics. The central stories revolve around the imminent government shutdown, allegations of government “weaponization” against political opponents, soft-on-crime policies and their consequences, a new Trump-Pfizer drug pricing deal, the ideological skew in Wikipedia, campus political violence, and a health segment examining lab-grown meat.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

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1. Looming Government Shutdown (“Schumer Shutdown”)

• [00:26–02:48]
  • John Solomon frames the likely government shutdown as a result of Democratic obstruction, labeling it the “Schumer Shutdown.”
  • President Trump claims Republicans do not want a shutdown, suggesting Democrats want to protect programs benefiting illegal immigrants and vowing to use a shutdown to shrink government if it occurs.

Notable Quote:

• Donald Trump (regarding shutdown strategy):

  “We can do Things during the shutdown that are irreversible, that are bad for them and irreversible by them. Like cutting vast numbers of people out, cutting things that they like, cutting programs that they like.”
  ([02:23])

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2. Weaponization of the TSA and Other Federal Agencies

• [00:26–00:53, 10:09–11:32]
  • Breaking: DHS admissions show TSA targeted individuals during the Biden administration for non-compliance with COVID policies, such as mask mandates, even post-CDC guidance changes.
  • Continues a running narrative of “weaponization” against conservative Americans by agencies (FBI, IRS, and now TSA).

Notable Quote:

• John Solomon:

  “The idea that you could be kept from a plane based on your political views just doesn’t seem American.”
  ([10:55])

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3. Military Policy Shifts – End of DEI in DOD

• [02:48–04:12]
  • Secretary of War Pete Hegseth promotes a new era focused on combat readiness over social engineering—including removal of gendered fitness standards and enforcing appearance/fitness among generals.
  • Notable social-media-ready lines emphasized: “No fat generals at the Pentagon,” and “no dudes in dresses in the US Military.”

Notable Quotes:

• Sec. Pete Hegseth:

  “The era of politically correct, overly sensitive ‘don’t hurt anyone’s feelings’ leadership ends right now.”
  ([02:48])

• “No dudes in dresses in the US Military.”
  ([04:04])

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4. Trump’s New Pharmaceutical Deal with Pfizer

• [04:13–14:52, 44:26–45:18]
  • Announced a deal for lower drug prices for Medicaid patients via a new site ("Trump RX") in exchange for a temporary tariff pause on foreign-made drugs.
  • Panel hails it as another “win” for Trump, contrasting with Democratic priorities on healthcare.

Notable Quote:

• Amanda Head:

  “It’s amazing what happens when you have a president that is demonstrating real leadership in this nation once again.”
  ([14:03])

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5. Crime, Immigration, and “Soft on Crime” Policies

• [04:13–10:09]
  • House Judiciary field hearing in Charlotte, NC scrutinized soft-on-crime policies after high-profile violent crimes committed by repeat offenders.
  • Gripping testimonies from victims’ families highlight failures of cashless bail and “reimagined policing.”

Key Moment:

• Stephen Federico, father of murder victim:

  “Think about your child...waking up, dragged out of bed naked, forced on her knees...begging for her life, bang, dead, gone...because [the killer] was arrested 39 times, 25 felonies, was on the street.”
  ([05:17–05:54])

• Discussion with Rep. Mark Harris attributes blame to Democratic leadership and policies at local/state level, especially diversion of 911 calls and cashless bail.

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6. Wikipedia’s Political Bias and the Push for Reform

Guest: Larry Sanger, Wikipedia Co-founder

• [16:43–27:34]
  • Sanger argues Wikipedia has lost neutrality, now reflecting a “GASP” (Globalists, Academics, Secularists, Progressives) worldview.
  • Proposes “nine theses” reform plan; calls for abolishing source blacklists, transparency in editorial leadership, and return to crowdsourcing of knowledge.
  • Elon Musk’s “Grokipedia” project and Congressional investigation mentioned as parallel developments.

Notable Quotes:

• Larry Sanger:

  “They no longer have a neutral point of view. They have a GASP point of view.”
  ([17:32])

• “If Wikipedia just throws this back in our face, then we will know that they’re not open to just common sense proposals.”
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• “We need to insist that our teachers stop talking about knowledge as something that is relative...There is an objective truth that can be found through careful investigation.”
  ([25:39])

• “There’s your truth, but there’s not your truth, there is the truth and your opinion.”
  — Doug ([27:17])

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7. Campus Political Violence and Free Speech

Guest: Emily Sturge, Campus Reform

• [29:28–34:42]
  • Reports on University of Washington event encouraging students to shoot political figures with Nerf guns—critique of rising normalization and celebration of political violence on campuses.
  • Stark statistics from Buckley Institute survey: Nearly 40% of college students justify physical violence to silence “hate speech.”
  • Culture of online professor comments sanctioning violence after Charlie Kirk’s assassination criticized.

Notable Quotes:

• Emily Sturge:

  “If they’re comfortable to post these things online, I can’t even imagine what they’re saying behind closed doors in their university classroom.”
  ([31:08])

• “[Gen Z is] energized, organized, and fired up after this assassination. So I do have a lot of hope...in bringing back free speech to this world.”
  ([34:28])

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8. Health Segment: Lab-Grown Meat & Chronic Disease

Guest: Dr. Chad Walding, NativePath

• [35:28–41:52]
  • Discusses movement away from “fake meat” as awareness grows about negative health impacts.
  • Lab-grown meat described as less nutrient-dense, highly processed, and not a viable substitute for real meat—linked to rise in chronic disease.
  • Importance of protein and particularly collagen for aging emphasized.

Notable Quotes:

• Dr. Chad Walding:

  “We are not just what we eat, we’re what we eat eats.”
  ([37:46])

• “Protein is the essential macronutrient. We absolutely cannot go without good quality protein.”
  ([38:55])

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9. Final Reflections: Political Realignment & Outlook

• [44:26–49:30]
  • Contrast drawn between Trump securing lower drug prices and Democrats seeking to fund health care for illegal immigrants.
  • Political shifts noted: Even in states like California, GOP inroads cited; demographic/political fluidity discussed.
  • Critique of Democratic extremism on core issues (immigration, policing), concern over Democrats’ defense of “insane” policies.

Memorable Banter:

• On military standards:

  “You don’t win a war by eating cupcakes.”
  — John Solomon ([49:23])

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| MM:SS | Segment Description | |-----------|-----------------------------------------------------| | 00:26–02:48 | Opening, Shutdown, Weaponization of TSA/Agencies | | 02:48–04:12 | Military DEI reversal & Hegseth’s Pentagon speech | | 04:13–10:09 | Trump-Pfizer Drug Deal, Crime Hearings | | 10:09–14:52 | Soft-on-crime policies, Mark Harris, Dem critique | | 16:43–27:34 | Wikipedia bias, Larry Sanger’s reform plan | | 29:28–34:42 | Political violence on campus, Emily Sturge | | 35:28–41:52 | Lab meat & health, Dr. Chad Walding, NativePath | | 44:26–49:30 | Political outlook, state races, broader critique |

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Tone & Style

• Combative and assertive, with a “culture war” framing throughout.
• Frequent use of memorable one-liners, frank criticism of Democrats and progressive policies, with guests and hosts amplifying conservative values and perspectives.
• Panel dynamic: John Solomon as straight-shooter host, Amanda Head & Doug as active commentators, select expert guests and affected citizens as primary sources.

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For Listeners:

This episode is a fast-paced, polemic digest of the day’s key news as seen through a populist-conservative lens. It provides context for upcoming political showdowns, interrogates the ideological drift of institutions, and amplifies stories of “American values” and their defense—while warning of cultural decline and bureaucratic weaponization.

Transcript

[Amanda]

This is an I Heart podcast.

[John Solomon]

Good evening, America, and welcome to the Schumer Shutdown Tuesday edition of JUST THE news. No noise. That's right. The government is just hours away from a possible shutdown, but this one is going to be on Democrats. I'm John Solomon, as you know, reporting always to you from the nation's capital in Washington, D.C. we have spent the last few years chronicling the weaponization of government. We've shown it happened at the CIA and the FBI. We've seen it clearly showed it happened at the irs. Today we were able to show that it happened at the tsa. That's right, the Transportation Security Agency. New information made public today by the Homeland Security Department confirms that during the Biden years, the TSA was weaponized to go after those who didn't agree with President Biden on things like politics or Covid masks. Yes, people were being targeted by the open skies program to keep them off planes. Even after the CDC said you didn't need to wear masks in public settings anymore, well, the TSA was still punishing those who didn't like masks. All the details [e-mail], jerry Dunleavy, our great investigative cohort has a lot. And tomorrow morning you'll have an even more extensive look at this weaponization. But find an Alphabet soup agency. It seems like there was some form of liberal weaponization going on. We'll have a lot more on that. Or as the night bears on, go check out the story that's up on JustTheNews.com right now. Now, we are still on government shutdown watch. As I mentioned, as of this hour, we've got no deal to avert a shutdown that will take effect at midnight tonight. The Democrats are holding the line. Hundreds of thousands of government employees especially watching because they could sue being furloughed without a paycheck. That'll be on Chuck Schumer for sure. President Trump did not mince words earlier today when discussing the potential shutdown, telling Americans that it isn't Republicans who want this shutdown and explaining some more on about what he could do if the shutdown does indeed happen. For example, he spoke about cutting a substantial part of the government workforce. Democrats, watch what you were which for watch this clip.

[Donald Trump]

We're not shutting it down. We don't want it to shut down because we have the greatest period of time ever. I told you, we have $17 trillion being invested. So the last person that wants to shut down is us. Now, with that being said, we can do Things during the shutdown that are irreversible, that are bad for them and irreversible by them. Like cutting vast numbers of people out, cutting things that they like, cutting programs that they like.

[John Solomon]

Pretty, pretty clear, huh? The president went on to further explain why he feels he can't get a deal done with the Democrats because he says they refuse to agree that illegal aliens should not get free health care in America and Democrats want to keep funding those programs. The president had a busy day because he also spoke at a military event at the Marine base in Quantico, Virginia. That's where the Department of War gathered hundreds of generals and admirals, the top uniform brass of the military, all there at once to go over the Trump administration's new military guidance, especially when it comes to the DEI standards in the military. Secretary of War Pete Hegseth was very focused on that in his speech, explaining that the era of politically correct, overly sensitive don't hurt anyone's feelings. Leadership ends right now. That's actually a direct quote. He also introduced new directives for troops, including generalized physical fitness standards regardless of gender, and as well as changing apparent standards, most notably saying that it is completely unacceptable to see fat generals at the Pentagon. That's a direct quote. Also, he was very clear, no dudes in dresses in the US Military. That was another quote. Amanda. That was an amazing moment. That speech was literally cut out of central casting for a social media moment. But the compass setting is real. I mean, we can laugh and snicker at the lines, but they want a Pentagon focused on war fighting and not social engineering.

[Doug]

Yeah, that's. And I think that was part of the messaging aspect of changing it back to the Department of War is emphasizing more fat general.

[John Solomon]

That's a bumper sticker for me.

[Doug]

And no dudes in dresses. John, I want to continue with President Trump because earlier today in the Oval Office he announced a new deal with pharmaceutical maker Pfizer. Yes, back in his good graces, who will now sell their drugs at a lower cost to Medicaid patients. Now, there will be a new website where some of these discounted drugs are going to be sold, called very fittingly and expectedly Trump rx. Now, Pfizer agreed to the deal in exchange for a three year grace period on the Trump administration's planned tariffs on pharmaceuticals that are made abroad. Now let's turn to Charlotte, North Carolina, where a House Judiciary subcommittee held a field hearing yesterday on soft on crime policies. And you may remember the murder of Irina Zarutska happened in that city with the alleged killer having multiple prior arrests but was still able to walk free in that community. And we heard another example of soft on crime policies hurting innocents at that hearing. 22 year old Logan Federico was murdered in May with the suspect being a career criminal that had been arrested 39 times. Her father spoke very powerfully at that hearing.

[Stephen Federico]

Take a listen when I tell you this story. Think about your kids. Think about your child coming home from a night out with their friends, laying down, going to sleep, feeling somebody come in the room and wake them and drag her out of bed naked, forced on her knees with her hands over her head, begging for her life, bang, dead, gone.

[John Solomon]

Why?

[Stephen Federico]

Because Alexander Devonte Dickey, who was arrested 39 times, 25 felonies, was on the street.

[Doug]

Absolutely heartbreaking. I mean, you can feel the emotion in his voice, losing his baby girl. So all I can say is that the soft on crime policies that we've seen around the country are causing far too many of these killings to happen. John. And our first guest knows a lot about this particular story because Steven Federico is one of his constituents.

[John Solomon]

Yeah, we're very lucky to be joined, although on a sad note, obviously with that testimony that was very gripping today. Democrats can't answer that question. He asked why they can't answer it other than it's for their liberal crazy ideas. Joining us now, he represents the great state of North Carolina, a fountain of, I think, common sense in Congress. Congressman Mark Harris, sir, good to have you on the show today.

[Mark Harris]

John.

[Amanda]

Amanda, it's so good to be with you. Thank you for having me.

[John Solomon]

Today was a tough day to watch that testimony. You could feel the pain in Logan Federico's father's voice and all that happened today. Democrats have no answer to his question. Why do they?

[Amanda]

Well, I was in that room and that testimony was absolutely gut wrenching. And as we obviously had gathered to discuss the issues around Irina Zarutska, the Beautiful Ukrainian girl, 23, that left a war ravaged Ukraine to come to the United States and was here in Charlotte as a refugee, if you will, and had gotten a job and was getting on with her life and then suddenly to have it snuffed out by a guy in the Charlotte case that had been arrested 14 times, spent five years in prison for violent crime and yet stood before a magistrate and a magistrate simply let him sign a note back in July, less than a month before he killed Irina and just simply signed that note saying that he would appear in a hearing and was put back out on the streets. It has been a travesty that has shaken this entire region. And as we gathered to talk about that yesterday, indeed, we listened to this dad who described his beautiful daughter Logan. And Stephen did an incredible job of laying out exactly the facts of, in this case, an individual that had been arrested 39 times, 25 felonies, and was still back out on the street. So again, these soft on crime policies that the Democrats have put in place, they don't have an answer for them. And we're going to stand up for these folks and we're going to speak up for them and we're going to get something done.

[Doug]

And Congressman, the soft on crime policies, obviously, they percolate on Capitol Hill where, where you work, but they're also down at the local level. Tell us about what the reaction from Charlotte's mayor and city council has been.

[Amanda]

Well, it was certainly the initial reaction by the mayor was not good at all. She, in fact, made the statement that, that somehow that the perpetrator was actually the victim in this as much as the innocent girl that was killed. And there was a lot of backlash to that. In fact, days later, she kind of walked that back and to her credit, apologized for her initial reaction. But again, the policies that have been put in place go all the way back to Governor Roy Cooper, who was pushing these DEI policies back in 2020 with then Attorney General Josh Stein, who is now the current governor. And so many things that went into place, I think led to these policies. And the Charlotte City Council was part of it when they were trying to do something called reimagine policing. And it actually diverted 911 calls away from the police to other agencies. That was a disaster. And so these kind of activities, we want to put the spotlight on it. We want folks to know the whole cashless bail system has been a disaster and something's got to be done and we're going to step up and try to do it.

[John Solomon]

Yeah. So important. Meanwhile, while the Democrats were busy letting felons out onto the street, agencies like the FBI, the irs, and now we learned today the TSA were trying to infringe or to impose penalty on political enemies. We, we saw that with everything that went against President Trump, Russia, collusion, Ford, the irs, targeting of conservative groups. Today the Homeland Security Department admitting that TSA was used by the Biden administration to punish those who disagreed with President Biden on things like Covid mask and other policies. The idea that you could be kept from a plane based on your political views just doesn't seem American. Your reaction to what we learned from the Homeland Security Department Today, not American, John.

[Amanda]

And I was so grateful to hear you lead with that story. And I think, as you said, more is going to come out as we go through the night and into tomorrow. But again, it's another example of the weaponization of our government that took place under the Biden administration. It is absolutely unacceptable. And I'm grateful for those that are stepping up and are telling the truth and are exposing the evidence that is out there that these kind of activities have taken place. And I think that this is a developing story, and I think you're going to continue to see more and hear more in the days ahead as we move forward.

[John Solomon]

Yeah, I think you're right, sir.

[Doug]

There are a number of initiatives. And I mean, the one you listed is just an example of the insanity of ideas on the left about policing, the reimagined policing, diverting these 911 calls to other probably subpar people who can provide care, I'm assuming psychologists and folks like that. But on top of that, you've now got Democrats holding out on this so that they can provide health care to illegal aliens. I understand that the road to hell is paved with good intentions, but I don't even know if it's good intentions at this point. And they've got to look at the polling and see that this doesn't poll well. Why on earth are they gritting their teeth and digging in on these things?

[Amanda]

You know, I wish I could explain why they are digging in on these things, because the American public, they're not accepting this. The idea that the federal government would be shut down because the Democrats demand is that we somehow commit to putting $1.5 trillion back into a CR or spending bill that really and truly would undo everything that we did this summer with the working families tax cut or the one big beautiful bill, whichever you want to call it. The bottom line is that they want to shut the government down to try to slow down the momentum of the Trump administration. That's not going to work. It's not going to happen. The American people understand that what President Trump is seeking out to do is moving the country forward, and we're going to keep doing that. And if they choose to shut the government down again, Russ Vo has already talked about the fact that OMB that we were going to see a mass reduction in in the federal government in terms of employees. And again, that will be another piece that Chuck Schumer is going to have to own out of this shutdown if he chooses to go forward.

[John Solomon]

Yeah, absolutely. One of the other things that the left has pushed really hard, including in corporate America, is globalism the idea that we should put the interests of other countries in front of America. And nowhere was that more painfully aware to everyday Americans when they would spy a drug in america that cost 2 or 3x what it would cost in another country because our American companies created lower prices for other countries outside of America. Today Pfizer got wiser and the President helped help some Americans get the drugs at a much more costly rate. Meaning Americans will pay the same as what foreigners are being charged for the same drugs. How important is this move and is this the beginning of a trend line where Americans get treated more favorably for the drugs that our own ingenuity created?

[Amanda]

Listen, I think it's incredible because I don't know about you, but we keep seeing the wins that are picking up one after another from this president. He said we were going to get tired of winning. I don't think people have gotten tired of winning yet. This is yet again, isn't it refreshing to see a president, I mean, how many times have I seen him in the Oval Office throughout today with media in there and one more thing after another and this is a major win. And in the pharmaceuticals area, as Americans are going to be able to buy their pharmaceuticals and we're going to have most favored nation ability to be able to purchase those at reduced prices. It's amazing what happens when you have a president that is demonstrating real leadership in this nation once again.

[John Solomon]

Yeah, just this week alone, whether it's the Gaza peace, the Pfizer deal, so many things happening and I suspect effect. If Democrats push that shutdown button, we'll have a smaller government in a week or two. That might save us all a few bucks. Congressman, it's such an honor to have you on the show. We always enjoy bringing you on. We always walk away a lot smarter. Thanks for joining us.

[Amanda]

Always a pleasure to be with you. Keep up the great work.

[John Solomon]

Back at you, sir. Good to have you on. All right, folks, after the break, Wikipedia's co founder is warning the site is shutting down. Real debate with editors pushing one sided consensus instead of open discussion. Guess which one side they're pushing? The left. You know that already. All right, we're gonna have a great conversation. I can't wait. I've been looking forward to this all day with Larry Sanger right after the commercial break. Hey folks, I've got an important message for you about high blood pressure. It's one of the highest risk factors for mortality. Nearly one in two adults have high blood pressure, meaning there's about a 5050 chance you could be affected. Getting help and taking control of your blood pressure is crucial for your health and longevity as well as and one way to do that is by using 120 Life and 120 Life is not just to help manage high blood pressure. It also can be beneficial for those with diabetes because managing high blood pressure can help with diabetes, making 120Life a valuable tool for overall wellness. 120Life is trusted by healthcare professionals with over 1000 doctors recommending it to help manage your blood pressure naturally for a limited time. Try 120Life and save 20% off. Just use the code 20JTN at checkout at 120Life.com 120Life offers a risk free trial with a full refund. If you don't see lower numbers in two weeks, go to one to zero life.com and use the code jtn to save 20%.

[Doug]

Welcome back everybody to just the news. No noise. Wikipedia was supposed to be a free and open encyclopedia for everyone, but its own co founder Larry Sing sees a problem. Instead of honest debate, editors hide behind a fake consensus that shuts down real discussion. Competing viewpoints aren't allowed. So joining us now to talk even more about it all is that co founder of Wikipedia, Larry Sanger. Larry, thanks so much for joining us.

[Larry Sanger]

Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.

[Doug]

Yeah, Larry, I grew up at the tail end of the world book generation and I remember the old Wikipedia that you conceptualized had a wealth of information like World Books that did, but it made it more accessible in a budding world of the Internet. The new Wikipedia, though, the current Wikipedia, to me, I don't know, it's a political tabloid, it seems like.

[Larry Sanger]

I think it represents the views of basically globalists, academics, secularists and progressives. GASP is the acronym of the framework that Wikipedia now works within. They no longer have a neutral point of view. They have a gasp point of view.

[John Solomon]

That's very powerful. All right, so you understand you created this. It was such an ingenious idea. How did it fall astray? Walk us through how such a great idea. And it was a great idea. How it got corrupted to a particular viewpoint as opposed to a true neutral Wikipedia encyclopedia.

[Larry Sanger]

How Wikipedia came about or how they.

[John Solomon]

How did it get. How to get to that, to that hijacked viewpoint.

[Larry Sanger]

Right. Well, a friend of mine was telling me about wikis. I had been working on Nupedia for a year before that and it was to be a public contributed encyclopedia. But we wanted anybody to be able to contribute theoretically. And it was just too hard and moving too slow. And then when a friend told me about wikis, I saw immediately that it would be possible, if what he said was true, to just organize a whole bunch of people to edit each other's work in wiki fashion. And it actually worked out that way. So what happened to after it really took off? I think especially when I don't know who exactly, but certainly elements of the left descended on Wikipedia when they noticed that the tendency of Wikipedia pages to appear at the top of Google results.

[Doug]

So.

[Larry Sanger]

Basically, as I like to put it, the left makes its traditional walk through the institutions. Wikipedia is one of the institutions that it walked through. There are still people on the center and even conservatives on Wikipedia, but they have to be quiet because otherwise they will be blocked by the current crop of administrators. But I'll tell you my main complaint right now does not actually have to do first and foremost with political bias, right? It's just a whole syndrome of mismanaged and missed opportunities. And I really do think that the time has arrived for reform, essentially.

[John Solomon]

Wow.

[Doug]

Is Wikipedia fixable or does there need to be a replacement?

[Larry Sanger]

That's a good question. Of course, there are some people who think it is beyond rescue, but my view is we ought to give it a try, the college try, at least one last time. And so a friend of mine and I were talking about ways that I could use my platform essentially as. As an independent, no longer associated co founder of Wikipedia, to put forward a a reform plan for the platform. No one has ever made a thoroughgoing proposal about how Wikipedia could be reformed. And the more I thought about it, the more I thought this would actually be an excellent idea. If Wikipedia just throws this back in our face, then we will know that they're not open to just common sense proposals. Because the nine theses in my nine theses proposal are all very reasonable. There's nothing particularly actually conservative about them. They're things that ought to be acceptable to everyone.

[John Solomon]

Brilliant idea. And the Internet has been blown up by you today. This is such a great idea. You got that debate going that has long been stifled. Where does this go next? You've got a lot of momentum. Everybody's talking about your nine theses. How do we ride this tsunami that you started to start to create the pressure on Wikipedia to fix itself?

[Larry Sanger]

I think there are a lot of balls in motion right now, not all of which I control, of course. So I think in response to the nine theses, Elon Musk confirmed what he had been hinting at for the last few weeks that he's going to be launching Grokipedia, apparently. And now Congress has Wikipedia under investigation. But what we can do, like the little people, and I count myself one, I'm just a middle class guy. I'm like the poorest founder of a top 10 website. And so what we can do is descend on Wikipedia. That's and, and actually make our voices heard. These are things that we have a right to do. Because Wikipedia announces that they are open to anyone to edit. They're not going to, they can't go back on that. And as long as you behave yourselves, then there's nothing stopping us from going in and saying, you know what? I actually do think that public, the public should be allowed to write articles. I'll just read a few of these. That we should abolish source blacklists that disallow, you know, Fox News and the New York Post from being cited at all on Wikipedia. It's ridiculous. And another thing that we, we might get behind is this idea that the editorial leaders of Wikipedia should actually be named. They should not be to be anonymous like the rank and file. I think that rank and file should allow, should be allowed to be anonymous as as much as they like. But if you are among the, as I counted them, 62 most powerful people on Wikipedia, then you shouldn't be able to hide behind anonymity and 85% of them do so. Another thing that we can do, however, is just talk about these proposals, make other, other proposals, hold their feet to the fire. So as I say, I want, I want people to have a good faith dialogue with Wikipedia with the, again the rank and file Wikipedia, the Wikimedia foundation and everyone basically, and talk about how Wikipedia really could change and be made into a, a better citizen of the world and really helpful to everyone. It's not just gonna go away.

[Doug]

Larry. I mean your, your idea at its inception, crowdsourcing of knowledge, I mean before crowdsourcing was really even a thing, it was just so brilliant. My concern is that Wikipedia, the thing that we are, the monster that we are dealing with at Wikipedia right now, is not even necessarily the problem. It's a symptom of the problem, which is an aversion to the truth. How do, how do we fix that? That's the big picture problem.

[Larry Sanger]

Now that is very hard. And what you're talking about is how to design institutions in a way, I think ultimately, since you ask a philosophical question, I'll give you a sort of broad strategic answer. And that is, we need to insist that our teachers stop talking about knowledge as something that is relative. This is where a lot of people learn this falsehood. Most scientists, most responsible adults actually, who are outside of radical centers of power, I guess, are all in favor of this general idea. There is an objective truth that can be found through careful investigation. And this isn't taught in schools. And, and ultimately it is going to have to be a philosophical change that it isn't going to be changed by a few policies being adopted on Wikipedia or new laws in Congress. It actually has to come from the people. Ultimately, we need to actually, frankly, get back to the notion that there is a truth with a capital T. Yes, indeed, a truth.

[Doug]

Not your truth. There's your truth, but there's not your truth. There is the truth and your opinion. And unfortunately, wiki has turned into just.

[John Solomon]

I'm just gonna say, so much opinion.

[Doug]

Yeah.

[John Solomon]

Larry Sanger may not have made a lot of money in Wikipedia, but he is wealthy in wisdom. And I just want to thank him for taking this on. I thought what you did today was really, really essential. Larry, thank you.

[Doug]

And courageous. And courageous. Larry Sanger, Wikipedia Co founder, thanks so much for joining us tonight.

[Larry Sanger]

We appreciate it.

[John Solomon]

Yeah. What a great session that was.

[Doug]

Yeah, absolutely. All right, everybody. Speaking of education and an aversion to the truth, at the University of Washington, a leftist student group promoted a game encouraging students to shoot political figures with Nerf guns. Another example of the left trivializing political violence. We're going to talk about that after the break.

[John Solomon]

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[Emily Sturge]

Thank you so much for having me.

[John Solomon]

All right, so a leftist student group plans a Nerf gun event to shoot political figures. What a bad idea. Tell us how you learned about it, what happened, and where this is headed.

[Emily Sturge]

Students at the University of Washington planned a carnival game event on their campus where they were planning to set up dart boards with pictures of political figures and then actually shoot them with Nerf guns. And unfortunately, that's just one example of the way that the higher education system has normalized political violence. And that's why Gen Z is so desensitized to political violence. There's a new statistic that came out from Yale University's Buckley Institute that revealed that nearly 40% of college students said that physical violence is justifiable when it's used to silence somebody of hate speech. And it's not surprising that so many college students are okay with physical violence when it's used to silence somebody on the opposing side, because that's what our higher education system is teaching them, that it's okay to do. So I learned about this event. I found it on the university website. The university was very quick to scrub it when us journalists began reporting on it. The university says that the event did not take place, but we still need to be asking the questions of who approved this in the first place? Why was it allowed on the university website in the first place? And that's what I'm doing. I'm trying to answer those questions.

[John Solomon]

Great work.

[Doug]

And if they're that fearful of the backlash, then they obviously know how bad it is. So why would they have allowed it in the first place? Is this. Is this that prevalent? Because we hear about these cases a lot, but I feel like maybe these are just the tyrannical, loud ones, because it seems to me that your generation, zoomers, you guys are moving a little bit more, and I think in the direction of sanity.

[Emily Sturge]

Many of us are. We saw Gen Z shift to the right, especially in the November election. But look, Charlie Kirk's assassination in the aftermath has revealed the ugly truth of just how bad our professors are within the higher education system. I know that because for weeks I've been reporting at the Leadership Institute's Campus Reform the vile and disgusting comments that professors are posting online celebrating Charlie Kirk's assassination. And if they're comfortable to post these things online, I can't even imagine what they're saying behind closed doors in their university classroom. Just today, I reported that there was a professor at Fort Hayes State University, which is in Kansas. She posted on Facebook saying that Charlie Kirk's death is karma. And then she went as far as to say that white men are dangerous animals. I don't think white men are dangerous animals. And I don't think we need to be teaching the next generation of leaders, our students. We don't need to be teaching them that. Unfortunately, that professor is just one example. The list. I could go on and on all day. A professor at UPENN called Charlie Kirk, the head of Trump's Hitler Youth. There is a financial aid advisor at Iowa State University that also had a very disgusting comments online saying that she's happy and that she hopes Charlie Kirk is, in her words, rotting in hell. And so when professors are promoting such violent rhetoric on social media and within their classrooms, it's not shocking why so many members of Generation Z are completely desensitized to political violence and somehow okay with the political assassination of Charlie Kirk.

[John Solomon]

Yeah, it's just. It's stunning. I think you struck on something, Emily. That's really the thing. We're desensitizing a generation to the idea that when they disagree with someone, it's okay to kill them because they don't see a human anymore. It happens in the classroom. It happens in discord in the video game world. It happens on social media. Media. Do you see in any of your reporting any hopeful experiments or examples going on that are trying to reverse that and to create tolerance and to create a humanizing again. Even if you disagree with someone, you can recognize they're human. Anything that you've caught in your reporting that shows some progress on reversing this.

[Emily Sturge]

Dangerous trend, I'm very optimistic. I think Generation Z is headed in the right direction. I think this is the generation that is going to bring back free speech. Because, look, free speech was dead on our university campuses. Charlie Kirk attempted to bring it back to the campus quad. Unfortunately, he was assassinated for doing so. And through that event, the silver lining there is that we have completely energized an entire generation to stand up for their First Amendment rights. They see just how important free speech is because, look, they're silenced in their classrooms. They're handed failing grades by professors. And now we're seeing young conservatives grow their turning point USA chapters on their campuses hold events with speakers. Charlie Kirk's tour will continue on campus. They're at Utah University tonight. Last week we saw Virginia Tech and the University of Minnesota packed houses at all of these events. Look, these young conservatives, they are energized, they are organized, they are fired up after this assassination. So I do have a lot of hope in Gen Z in bringing back free speech to this world.

[John Solomon]

And I'll say personally, I have a lot of hope in the future journalism, knowing that you're in it. Emily, for people who want to follow your good work and all the great work on campus reform, what's the best way to do that?

[Emily Sturge]

Well, thank you so much. Campusreform.org, we are reporting stories every single day.

[John Solomon]

You sure are. It's great work. Great work indeed, Emily. Great, amazing story. Great time. Thanks for joining us. We really appreciate it. All right, folks. Yeah, we got one of our favorite segments up around the corner. I love it. The weekly health update brought to you by our good friends at Natopath. We'll have that right after these messages. We're going to talk about lab grown meat. Yes, it exists and it's bad for you, of course. We'll cover that next. Welcome back, America. Time for one of my favorite segments of the week, the Justin News Health Update brought to you by our great friends at Natopath. Joining us now, the co founder and chief culture officer at Natopath, our good friend, Dr. Chad Walding. Doctor, good to have you on.

[Mark Harris]

Hey, John. So good to be here. Thank you for having me.

[John Solomon]

I love these discussions. I've heard from so many people. I was out at a speech a couple weeks ago. People come up. I love the health segments. We dive into really important stuff. And one of the topics that's been coming up a lot maybe because of the Maha movement, is the connection between fake meat and chronic disease. Tell us a little bit about what we're learning between that connection and what it could mean long term.

[Mark Harris]

Well, I think people are really waking up. You mentioned the Maha movement. I think that's created so much awareness in people that when they hear things like lab meat or something that's processed or ultra refined, they're starting to put their hands up. They're like, hold on. You know, we're starting to see different states banning lab meat and, and different companies funded by Bill Gates going bankrupt because people are refusing this stuff. And that, that to me shows the power of the movement. The Maha movement. It shows the power of the level of awareness that people are now connecting with their health and their food and the power of when people come together and make a decision and really take action, that's, that's one of the most important things to make a difference. You know, we know, we know. Now if you look at the past hundred years, there's a trend. The further away we get from real whole natural food, as close to nature as possible that's rich in nutrients and vitamins. The further away we get from that, the more chronic disease we experience, the further we go down. Metabolic disease, insulin resistance, cancers, diabetes, heart disease. That trend is there and it's been happening despite all our advances in science and in technology. So it might look from a technological standpoint, this is amazing. We have lab grown meat and we don't have to plant anything and animals will stay alive, but that comes at a radical cost. So to see people waking up, I think it presents a bright future, in my opinion. I'm very excited about that. I'm very optimistic about it.

[Doug]

Dr. Walden, when you look at real meat versus lab grown fake meat, real meat has an abundance of protein, of iron, of antioxidants, so many nutrients that we need. Lab grown meat, as I understand it, is one of the most processed items out there. That, that seems extremely bad for your system and it doesn't really. Does it provide any of those other benefits that real meat does?

[Mark Harris]

Not as much. Right. It's less nutrient dense. Right. So real meat coming from healthy cows. Right. We want to think about the whole supply chain of food. We're not just what we eat, we're what we eat, eats. Right. So you can take an animal that's out there eating grass, drinking sunshine, like what we're seeing here, they're actually churning the soil with their hooves. They have manure on the ground that fertilizes everything. What you're seeing is a natural, harmonious state of nature, that the nature, nature loves to be in harmony with itself. Right. When we take things and refine things and get synthetic, all the vitamins and all the minerals get stripped away from that. But there's like you said, there's other toxins, toxins that get added in in order to keep this stuff shelf stable, in order to disobey the laws of nature, so to speak. Right. So it has a, has a downstream effect on our health where we're not getting the important amino acids that we need for our health. We're not. Our metabolism isn't burning calories at the State it would with real whole protein, real, real strong protein. We actually burn calories when we eat it. When we eat a good quality steak, our body's like, wow, we're going to have to work really hard for this. We're going to have to burn some calories and we become healthier for it. Right. Protein is one of the most. It is the essential macronutrient. We can go without carbohydrates, we can go a pretty long time without fat. We absolutely cannot go without good quality protein. Right. So going further down, this lab generated fake meat stuff. It's only going to lead to more diseases. It's going to get us more disconnected from nature and our true health. And it's going to, it's going to create problems. So again, to see us reversing course on that is exactly what we want to be doing.

[John Solomon]

Talk a little bit about protein and then that transition to collagen. Collagen is the super protein that powers our body. When you get my age, I guess my collagen is being dialed down, isn't it? That's right, that's right.

[Mark Harris]

I mean, again, protein is the most foundational thing. I always encourage people eat a whole real food diet, you know, seek out the best sources, but also recognize that collagen, collagen is the most abundant protein in the body. Right? So when we're looking at each other, we're looking at our skin, our hair, our nails. All of this is made up of collagen. Inside our bodies, we have arteries and veins, we have gut lining, we have a whole nervous system. Right. All of that is also made up of collagen. Right. One of the issues though, is that we're super deficient in collagen in the modern world. Our ancestors got plenty of collagen because they would eat nose to tail, you know, they would, they take the bones of an animal, they would put it in soups, they would boil it down and they would consume that on a consistent basis. Because we're so deficient in collagen in our modern world and have been eating so many refined foods, many of us as individuals are also extremely deficient in collagen. We produce collagen on our own, but that that production begins to decline around the age of 20. By the age we're 50, we're producing is half as much collagen internally as we did in our 20s. So the older we get, the more important it is to consume collagen on a consistent basis. That's why I'm such a big Fan of it, you know. Our company, Native Path, we value the highest quality, purest ingredients as possible. So we source the best possible collagen you can find from grass fed cows. It's type one and type three, which is what makes up 90% of your body. It's as pure, as close to nature as possible. And the best part is it's is so easy to use as a part of your daily routine. It's an odorless, tasteless powder that you can put in your coffee, you can put it in your teas, you can sprinkle it over your food even. But being consistent with it one day after the next, week after week, month after month, you want to make this a part of your diet, essentially. And over time, you start to see repair in where you've been deficient. You'll see repair in your nails. At one point I was going bald in the back of my head, so, so I up my collagen dose. I'm like, there it goes, it's working. One last thing I want to mention is collagen is the not talked about thing when it comes to bone health. Collagen extremely important for bones. And as we grow older, as a physical therapist, I can tell you strong bones is incredibly important for our function and our longevity. So collagen is extremely important for that. And there's all kinds of studies and data that shows that consistent collagen supplementation can increase the the density of your bones in a healthy way.

[John Solomon]

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[Doug]

Welcome back, everybody. It is our final segment of the night. John, you know what occurred to me about this whole Pfizer deal that is so brilliant about it? And I would not be surprised if we saw this expanded not only to other pharmaceutical companies, but other sectors as well. The constant criticism against President Trump's tariffs was that this, this cost is going to be passed on to the American consumer. And what President Trump did with this was he forced the manufacturer to, to take on the cost. And it's a mind trick.

[John Solomon]

It's amazing on this day where we might shout down the government, think of where the two parties are. President Trump just got a deal for American citizens to get better prices on drugs. And the Democrats are willing to shut down the government so your tax dollars could go to make sure that we give free health care to those who violated the law by illegally coming into the country. That is the difference between the two parties right now. You can't. On the issue of health care at this moment, there's no more stark difference than that.

[Doug]

Yeah. And you know, I keep thinking of places like California. I had a conversation with a guy today who's working very hard to have voters removed from California's rolls, whether they are inactive or fraudulent or whatever the case may be. And we were talking about an event coming up in California that Nicole Shanahan is trying to organize. And it is a, you know, save California event. But we were talking about some, some of the polling for California governor. And as you know, it's a jungle primary. So they're going to take top two. It's Katie Porter and Steve Hilton. KATIE Porter FORMER Democrat member of Congress 16% and Steve Hilton at 10%. Now this is aggregated among, I don't know what is this a do a dozen or so candidates. But even in a state like California, you can have a figure like Steve Hilton who is at 10%. You know, it's, I would like listen, as I told you in the car ride over here, I'm not Pollyanna Shun California. I'm not that person who's out here saying 2028's the year. But you never know, it could happen soon.

[John Solomon]

Yeah, listen, first off, a lot of people are leaving California. So the political demographic is changing very quickly. Some of those people are leaving illegal aliens. Obviously, the big exodus of that. I don't know what it looks like a few years from now, but the Democratic Democrats have a bigger problem than just California. All across the country, they're turning the country redder. You heard Emily Sturg talk about young people, but you look at these states and you know, North Carolina becoming more Republican in registration every day. Purple states are going to become red. As long as the left stakes out these far extremist position and when you get down to the electoral college, it's going to be harder and harder for Democrats to win the presidency if they don't recalibrate their thinking. Right now they are tripling down on everything that got them beat in the 24 election.

[Doug]

Well, and you know, Gavin Newsom has this initiative, this special election on the ballot November 4th. Yeah, sure, you can squeeze out Republicans in California, but there are red states that Democrats have a lot more to lose than Republicans have to lose in California.

[John Solomon]

Yeah, I agree. And you know, even the things about the masks and you've had two, you know, California wants to make sure that ICE agents can't wear masks. It's a meaningless law because federal supremacy clause prevails. But we then watch and see two or three ICE agents who are tracked home to be attacked or threatened and their families to be attacked. Is that what Democrats want to be remembered for? Are they the people that want to be remembered for defending the professors who defended the assassination of Charlie Kirk? I hope not. But I really fear there's a strong and large element of the Democratic Party that actually is embracing this insane stuff. It's crazy.

[Doug]

I know. And I've got a story coming out tomorrow Make America safe again. Talking about a lot of these agencies, you know, state and local policing, but also on the federal level that are juicing their department so that they can hire more. We've all seen that. What, 150, 50,000 applicants through Department of Homeland Security for ICE and Border Patrol. I mean, these are incredible numbers. And as a result of the one big beautiful bill, they've got this extra injection of cash to pay people out, $50,000 bonuses and other signing incentives. And you look at that compared to Democrats who just a few years ago were still very much on the side of defunding police. So you've got one side that wants to empower police to keep communities safe. You've got an very Democrat mayor here in Washington, D.C. muriel Bowser, to her credit, has said things have definitely gotten better here. And then on the other side, it's Democrats who. They are starkly on the wrong side. I think of a lot of winning issues.

[John Solomon]

I agree. You know, at the side of what side? Pete Hegset just stacked up Migda making generals thin again.

[Doug]

And dudes. And no dudes in dresses.

[John Solomon]

Yeah, thin generals. No more fat generals. That was a pretty good. Just remember that. I made that up just now. I'm sorry.

[Doug]

Listen, ever again, you want someone to look.

[John Solomon]

Yeah, no, I agree.

[Doug]

In the uniform.

[John Solomon]

I just wanted to be fit. God, if they're in a war, you wanted to be able to win the war.

[Doug]

That's true. If you're portly, but you can also run a mile very quickly, then I'm fine with that.

[John Solomon]

Yeah, I totally agree. Listen, well, you don't win a war by eating cupcakes.

[Doug]

All right, John, So if the government shuts down, we don't have to come to work tomorrow, do we?

[John Solomon]

Oh, yes, we do. No slouches in this company.

[Mark Harris]

Oh, no.

[Doug]

We will get all of the turmoil because we've got how many more hours?

[John Solomon]

Yeah. Less than five. Five hours.

[Doug]

Five hours. Yep.

[John Solomon]

So will the Democrats blink or not? We'll see.

[Doug]

Oh, yeah, well, they already put forth an effort, I think about 30 minutes ago, the cup. So lots to cover tomorrow. So we appreciate all of you being with us tonight. We will be back here at 6pm tomorrow night. Have a safe meeting.

[Amanda]

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