Live From Studio 6B - Thursday, September 11 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: Real America’s Voice – Live From Studio 6B

Episode Date: Thursday, September 11, 2025
Host: Damon and panel (Vinny Mac, Rick Delgado, Frank, "Slick," Aaron)
Main Themes: 24th Anniversary of 9/11, Charlie Kirk’s Assassination, Reflections on American Unity and Division

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Overview

This special episode of "Live From Studio 6B" marks the 24th anniversary of September 11, 2001—a pivotal moment in American history—while simultaneously grappling with the shock and aftermath of the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, earlier that week. The hosts deliver deeply personal remembrances of 9/11, analyze the current state of American discourse and violence, and provide breaking news updates on the ongoing investigation into Kirk’s murder. The episode is an emotional reflection on past and current traumas, the nature of national unity, and media and political rhetoric.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Remembrances of 9/11 (Timestamps: 06:12–16:04, 20:03–24:11)

• Damon opens with a heartfelt, tearful recollection of 9/11 and the loss of his best friend, Kenneth "Baldwell" Caldwell, who died on the 102nd floor of the North Tower.
  • “Every year it does. Yeah, we lived together for four years at Hofstra… I just kept holding out hope that he would have gotten out of there…” – Damon (06:40)
• Other hosts share their own experiences:
  • Frank recalls losing friends and community heroes as Holbrook Chamber president, and the collective void felt by families (11:14).
  • Vinny Mac and Rick Delgado describe being on trains heading into the city on 9/11, witnessing the day unfold and the deep personal losses in their Wall Street–centered communities (13:29, 21:57).
    • “...the next plane hit and we realized it's our Pearl Harbor.” – Vinny Mac (14:03)
    • “...I was on a train...looking out...seeing what I thought were clouds...Turns out, that was the first plane that hit.” – Rick Delgado (21:57)
  • All reflect on the lingering grief and the eerie, crystal-clear weather that so many recall from that Tuesday morning.

2. Comparisons Between 9/11 & Current Political Violence (20:03, 26:13, 94:19)

• The hosts draw parallels between the foreign terrorism of 9/11 and what they identify as political violence from within, most recently exemplified by Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
  • “In some ways, when you think about 9/11, you had terrorists from outside... And in a lot of respects, now we have terrorists inside the country who are attempting the same thing, and they did with Charlie Kirk.” – Damon (20:03)
• Reflections on how America rallied together after 9/11, contrasting it with today’s climate of anger and division.

3. Charlie Kirk Assassination: Details, Reaction, and Investigation (33:26, 35:01, 49:38, 64:10, 92:15)

• Breaking news on the search for Kirk’s killer, with updates from law enforcement:
  • Discussion of evidence, including ideologically inscribed ammunition and possible misinformation in initial reports (33:26).
  • Descriptions of forensic leads: surveillance footage, suspect descriptions (e.g., T-shirt with American flag and eagle, Converse shoes), and public appeals for information (114:40–117:54).
• Emotional and political aftermath:
  • Outrage at the celebrations and vile posts about Kirk’s death seen online, particularly from individuals in professional roles (26:13–29:08).
  • National leadership response: Vice President J.D. Vance personally escorts Kirk’s casket home, emphasizing authentic, compassionate gestures (41:15–43:54).
    • “What a beautiful gesture for the Vice President to go out there and bring our brother home to where he belongs...” – Damon (41:17)

4. Media, Political Rhetoric, and “Dehumanization” (96:02–104:07)

• Cutting criticism of mainstream and left-wing media for inflaming the political environment and “dehumanizing” figures like Charlie Kirk and Donald Trump:
  • Clay Travis: “You can't call the President of the United States for 10 years Adolf Hitler...And then when someone tries to kill us, you can't suddenly say, ‘Oh, we condemn this violence.’ You caused it.” (97:54)
  • Whoopi Goldberg and NYT writers “don’t humanize” Trump, and open admissions of wishing for Trump’s death as cited by the panel (102:46–105:26).
• The hosts link this rhetoric and social media environment to both literal violence and the inability for civil debate in America.

5. Call for National Unity and Faith (72:11, 75:35)

• Emphasizing constructive action, community, and faith as responses to tragedy:
  • Vinny Mac: “Let’s take Charlie’s death and what he stood for and create energy around that to improve our country...We have a chance to be the greatest generation now.” (72:11–75:35)
• Expressions of the need to bring God, faith, and civility back into American life as a bulwark against division.

6. Tributes to Charlie Kirk & Community Reactions (80:54, 110:25)

• Airing of a touching statement from Larry Arnn, president of Hillsdale College, honoring Kirk’s candor, humility, and influence.
  • "He had the humility to know that it was important to know and that he didn’t. And he had the confidence and assertion to seek to know... Charlie is one of the best I ever saw. It’s an honor to have known him." – Larry Arnn (80:54–83:35)
• Emotional listener and audience reactions; mention of the unique parasocial connection many had with Kirk.

7. Updates on the Investigation: FBI Presser & Law Enforcement Strategy (113:13–131:21)

• Live coverage of the Utah press conference:
  • FBI Director Cash Patel, Deputy Bongino, and Utah Governor Cox present new video and photos of the suspect.
  • 7,000+ public tips received; plea for continued public help. Some evidence suggests the suspect is not in any known facial-recognition databases, fueling speculation about foreign or professional involvement.
  • Governor Cox: “We are going to catch this person...We’ve been working with our attorneys, getting…everything that we need so we can pursue the death penalty in this case.” (121:28)
• Hosts speculate the authorities may be closer to catching the suspect than stated, possibly using misdirection.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Damon on 9/11 Loss:
  “Every time I say, you know, I'm not. It's not going to get to me this year. And every year it does.” (06:40)

• Frank on Grief:
  “They never recover from this big D... There’s a void there. But these people, the void is even deeper.” (11:14)

• Clay Travis on Media Rhetoric:
  “When you tell people that someone is Hitler, you are telling crazy people, go kill them. And I am sick of pretending that is anything other than what they’re doing.” (97:54)

• Larry Arnn Tribute:
  “He wanted to know all the basic things on this earth and he wanted to know how they reach up to heaven, where he must be now…The benefits he brought our country will continue. In some ways they will grow because of his martyrdom.” (80:54)

• Vinny Mac on National Response:
  “We have a chance to be the greatest generation now. The people following Charlie, those young people, they have a chance to be the greatest generation right now.” (75:35)

• Gov. Cox, Utah (re: Kirk’s killer search):
  “We cannot do our job without the public’s help ... We’re going to catch this person…We can start healing by finding this perpetrator and holding him accountable.” (121:28)

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Key Segments & Timestamps

• Personal 9/11 Stories: 06:12–16:04, 20:03–24:11
• Charlie Kirk Shooting Details: 33:26–38:10, 49:38, 113:13–122:38
• National Unity Discussion: 72:11–75:35, 94:19
• Media & Political Rhetoric: 96:02–105:26
• Larry Arnn Hillsdale Tribute: 80:54–83:35
• Audience Reaction & Reflections: 110:25–111:21
• FBI Press Conference Audio/Video: 113:13–124:24
• Live Reaction to New Law Enforcement Info: 124:49–131:21

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Tone/Language

The tone is somber, emotional, and at times angry—befitting the week’s traumatic events. The hosts are candid and speak plainly from personal experience and political passion. The mood is at once nostalgic, mournful, and defiant, advocating for unity, faith, and civic action.

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Conclusion

This "Live From Studio 6B" episode uses the 24th 9/11 anniversary as a lens to discuss America’s past and present wounds, threading together national trauma and personal loss with the week’s current tragedy: the assassination of Charlie Kirk. The conversation balances grief with calls to resolve, faith, and responsibility. The breaking news portion is intertwined with strong, impassioned criticism of media and political climate, amplifying the call for Americans to stand up for their values and for each other “as the greatest generation did before.”

Transcript

[Damon]

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[Damon]

Sam SA.

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Kenneth Marcus Caldwell. This is Tom Crotty. We met his brother at the corner.

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Of 56 and Thompson Streets in West Philadelphia. One wall of Elsie Goss Caldwell's tax practice is a living memorial of. Of the local lives lost on nine, 11.

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And it's Sean and then Peter. Peter and Kenny went to William Pen Charter.

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Kenny is Caldwell's son, Kenneth Marcus Caldwell, who was working on the 102nd floor of the North Tower. He never made it out.

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And he had, like, a. A really warm heart.

[Damon]

Yes, he did. And I lived with him for four years. Every. Every time I. Every time I say, you know, I'm not. It's not going to get to me this year. And every year it does. Yeah, we. We lived together for four years at Hofstra. We remain best friends after that. Until that day, obviously, 24 years ago. It's amazing. Yeah. He was the funniest person I knew for sure. I called him Baldwell because he was bald. I never called him Caldwell, but I went to his mom's business there. He spent. He came to my house in Connecticut. I went to his house in Philadelphia many times. Spent a lot of time. We lived together for four years. We lived together when we didn't really have to. When I was not a sophomore, junior, or senior, I could have moved into my own deal, but when we were just having too much fun. Funniest person I knew the most. One of the most friendly. I mean, he was. I've told this story every year. We used to leave the dorm room to go to. I don't know, it's probably 100. 100 yards, 150 yards to go to the main campus on Hofstra University's campus to eat at the main cafeteria. And I swear, I'm not exaggerating, it would take us sometimes an hour to go 100 yards because every single person stopped to talk to him. Every single person. It was. It was. I don't know, our four years together at Hofstra and after that were something like a movie. And I'll never forget that day. And as we always start on these nine, 11 days now, I think this is our 10th doing this show or my 10th. We always kind of remember where we were that morning. And obviously we had moved on. He had an apartment in. In Queens. I was on Long island, and I knew he worked at Detroit Center. I didn't really know too much about his. His Business. But I remember that morning I was. Got done teaching second period, which was music theory, on the second floor at a high school here on Long Island. And I remember walking down the stairs, as I did every morning after second period, and I'd go right into my assistant principal's office, whose office was right at the bottom of the stairs, because we were very close and she was a riot. And I used to just go down there and we used to just talk about whatever. And that morning, I remember walking in and she's saying, do you see what's going on? I said, no. And then I went down to my room, which was down the hall, and had a big TV in there. I was one of the only teachers that had TV because I was the music teacher. And I put it on and watched it the rest of the morning. And I could. The only thing I can remember about it, not the only thing, but the only thing that really sticks with me for all of these years is picking up my phone and calling him over and over and over and over again. And yeah, obviously he never picked up. I think it took me till probably that evening to. To put it together that he was gone. I just kept holding out hope that he would have gotten out of there, but I think he was on the floor, 102nd floor. I don't think he had a chance to get out before the building came down. Live from Studio 6B. I want to bring the other guys in here as I always do. Vinnie Max in our West Palm beach studio. Rick Delgado's here. Slick is here. Obviously we're going to do. You know, it's a heavy. It's a heavy week, you know, 9, 11 today, obviously, 24 years, obviously still reeling from Charlie Kirk and what's happened today. We'll get all caught up on that and some of the what's going on. President Trump is at Yankee Stadium right now. We'll get caught up on that. But I always like to kind of go, let the guys talk about what they remember. 24 years, it seems like maybe, you know, a year.

[Frank]

Yeah.

[Damon]

What do you remember about that morning?

[Frank]

Yeah, well, good segue. I was actually thinking of this morning, right. It was 24 years ago. I woke up and from first thing on my mind was Charlie Kirk. Did that really happen, that nightmare? Did I have a bad dream? I wish I did. Unfortunately, I know I did not. When I went outside, I had an early meeting this morning. I had to be out of the house, you know, around 8 o', clock, and I went. It was eerily just like that day, the sky was blue. There wasn't a cloud in the sky. This morning, the temperature, it was really unbelievable. And I said, My God, 24 years ago this happened. Obviously I didn't have something as connected as you did, but we did lose four guys in Holbrook. As you know, I'm very involved in Holbrook. I grew up there. Been prison in the chamber for 26 years. I was president Chamber when this happened. Actually, I never forget we had a carnival plan for that Thursday. This happened on a Tuesday, on 9 11. And we had to cancel that carnival. That was our first of many that we have to this day. And we lost four firefighters. One was a Holbrook volunteer firefighter who was also city fireman. And then three, three other firefighters as well. And of course, we had a big memorial for them and rededicated the streets and all. So I remember all that. Jerry Schrang was the one in particular that I knew. In fact, I still see his wife. Just saw her about two ago. And you know, they never recover from this big D. It's a void in people's lives. And I think, you know, every death is that way of a family member. Right. Losing your father. I lost my father. You know, there's a void there. But these people, the void is even deeper. It's just. It's just incredible. So that's what I was thinking about this morning. And you know what my experience was? I'll never forget, I owned a pharmacy at the time. That was my first, you know, career there. And I remember a police officer coming in. He was an airport police officer. My pharmacy was only maybe quarter of a mile, half a mile from the airport border. Town of islip.

[Damon]

Islip Airport.

[Frank]

McCarthy Airport. And he was looking for batteries because they needed batteries for a backup transistor radio. I'm telling you, I feel like it was last year that that guy asked me that question. I'll never forget it as long as I live. So, you know, a day that's etched in everybody's memory but us here on Long island. And then folks that are in close to the city. Everybody was connected by something somehow through their community. So that was my memories today. But, boy, it was eerie this morning.

[Damon]

Vinnie Mac. What? You haven't been on a show with us and I don't think on a 9. What are your memories?

[Vinny Mac]

Yeah, it's a struggle today. And I also had a good friend, similar to your college roommate and friend. It's amazing hearing you talk about your friend and just the great memory you have of his dynamic personality and smile and friendliness. And that's the beauty of memories and remembering people like that who really touched you. So it's great to hear that.

[Damon]

I used to send him. I used to go on Hair Club for Men and fill out his name and get it sent to the room.

[Vinny Mac]

That is great. I love your name for him. What was it?

[Rick Delgado]

Baldwell.

[Damon]

Kenny Baldwell instead of Caldwell. Yeah, he was bald. He was. Hair was never coming back. So I tried to help him, but.

[Frank]

Oh man.

[Vinny Mac]

Yeah, it was just great. It's a great story because I can relate to that. You know, I grew up in a town where most everybody that I went to high school with and for generations worked in Wall Street. It was Cantor Fitzgerald and a lot of that big firms. So we not only lost a few people, we lost generations of people that were in Cantor and people's discard for life. There's one fellow that I have a similar sort of relationship with like you did with Baldwell, Don Spampanato. Just he was a bodybuilder. He was a good high school friend, always smiled, always laughed. He laughed at all my dumb stuff that I did. And believe me, I had a lot of dumb weak jokes back then. And all I remember is his smile and laughing and just shaking his head and I'm like, that's funny, huh? Okay, good. And he passed. And he's one of the guys that. That face hits me in the morning on 911 every year. But my most vivid sort of personal experience is wheeling and dealing as I usually am in some business deal. I'm on a train. I lived in New Jersey at the time, heading to the World trade Center at 8 o' clock in the morning or 7:30 or. I found exactly what time, but they stopped the train just before we went into the tunnel. To get into Manhattan you got to go under the water into the tunnel. And we were all watching the tv of course aggravated that there's this delay. What's this delay? And you see fire in one of the World Trade Centers. And all of us got out of the train and watching the TV and then boom. The next plane hit and we realized it's our Pearl Harbor. So it still brings tears to my eyes because the vigils I've been to with people. Amazing. So sad.

[Damon]

13 past the hour. A lot of news to get to get you caught up on what we know. We'll get Delgado's thoughts on 9 11, 24 years. Amazing. Live from Studio 6P on a Thursday. We're back right now after this, stop.

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[Damon]

All right, 17 past the hour. Live from Studio 6B on a Thursday, September 11th, 2025. 24 years removed from the attack on this country in 2001 that changed this country forever, changed a lot of people forever. It's been 24 years. Amazing to think it's been 24 years. And it's, it's. We've been talking about the week in its totality, from this girl in North Carolina arena to the unspeakable tragedy of Charlie Kirk. And then obviously remembering 911 today. And in some ways, when you think about 9 11, you had terrorists from outside the country who wanted to attack the country, kill as many people as they could to make them live in fear, stop living their life the way they wanted to, stop saying what they wanted to say. And in a lot of respects, now we have terrorists inside the country who are attempting the same thing, and they did with Charlie Kirk. And they want the message to be this, to be the same as the message was back then. And think about this country and how it rallied after that. Be nice to see something similar happen now. And President Trump's at Yankee Stadium. And it shouldn't be lost on any of us that that first game back after 911 was quite a moment for this country. Baseball, sports, and the Yankees, particularly in the Mets, had a lot to do with getting this city back on its feet back then.

[Frank]

So we have that cut of George Bush throwing out that first pitch. Big day.

[Damon]

Yeah. Delgado, what's your, what are your memories of 9 11, 24 years ago?

[Rick Delgado]

My memories are a little bit different than you guys because I feel like you had personal touches within that I didn't. I guess that's a, that's an advantage for me in a way, in that I didn't know anybody directly that passed away due to that. But like I said, it was different because I was on a train, Vin. I was already almost into the city that morning, looking out the window, as I always do, taking the Long Island Railroad just before getting to the tunnel and looking out, you know, over the gorgeous sunny day, off to the left and seeing, seeing what I thought were clouds. And I was, I was upset because I was like, clouds. It was supposed to be gorgeous today. What's clouds? Turns out that was the first plane that hit.

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Hit.

[Rick Delgado]

Didn't know it at the Time until we got into the tunnel and they started making an announcement about something going on at the World Trade center, getting off that train, reaching out to the people at 1010 wins. Because at the time I worked for, you know, CBS Radio in New York City, one of our stations, 1010 WINS. I knew a lot of the guys. I knew the GM over there. We did a lot of work together back and forth while I was with the Opie and Anthony show on wnew. And after they directed me to come straight to the station, it was about getting, helping get something on the air for, you know, on WNEW in New York City at the time. And when you, you know, when you think about the kind of show we did, it was not lent to serious times. We were not a serious show. It was all about having fun and being stupid. But I will always hat tip those guys, both Opie and Anthony and everybody that worked with me, Ben Garrett, also known as Stinky, and a bunch of the other guys who pulled it together. And we did something nobody thought we could do. And that was reached out and let everybody, let everybody be heard, kind of open up the phone lines.

[Damon]

Yeah.

[Rick Delgado]

And, you know, kind of gave people a way to vent, talk, figure out a way to get through it. And even just thinking about it now, it's, you know, like you said, 24 years later, and you still get all choked up thinking about it and how it affected you. And then walking home that night, because I didn't live in the city. I lived back on Long Island. There was no mass transit. Every restaurant was packed, but the streets were empty. No one was on the streets of Manhattan. I literally walked down the middle of Broadway and 7th Avenue, down the middle, straight to Penn Station because there was no subways running. And just looking at everybody huddling in these restaurants, being around each other. And then finally, you know, around 11, 11:30, they announced that there were trains running back to Long Island. And I finally made it home that night. But, you know, literally, it was, it was life changing. And I'll Also hat tip 1 John Caracciola, who owns a station we're on right now, 103.9 LI News Radio, as he was one of the ones who helped get us that show together. He was working for a station called WLIR on Long island at the time. They had a small station with a couple extra studios. I managed to get my guys over there while we coordinated in the city and were able to do a live show, you know, through their studios. And I believe Sean Hannity was Also in their studios as well because he couldn't get to the city. So a hat tip to John and his people who made that happen. And you know, you talk about how stuff like that and how it, it kind of helps bring everybody together. You see everybody pulling together in the same direction and that's a reminder of what we need today.

[Damon]

Yeah, we need today. But I have to tell you what I, what I've seen in the last 24 hours has been hard to, hard to make your brain wrap around the. And you know, it's not, it's not phony Hollywood Rosie o' Donnell types. Doctors, teachers, administrators, people who work in hospitals, people who are supposed to be there to serve the public. Who are these positions of serving the public, serving your kids, Social workers, psychologists. I've seen it all with posts about Charlie Kirk that make you want to vomit. And it's not only that they, they make them, they have got hundreds of thousands of comments, likes, shares, hearts of the most vile responses to him getting assassinated that you can imagine. And it is nice to see some of them getting fired. A lot of them, quite frankly today we have seen. Yeah, but the number of them that are out there and again, I think it's because of the positions that they hold. These are not like 18, 19 year old gang bangers in the hood. These are not, These are not 15 year old teenagers who don't know their ass from their elbow. These are 20, 30 year old adults in, in real positions, in real jobs, administrators at colleges, teachers, professors at colleges, high schools, people who work, anesthesiologists who work in hospitals. And you're thinking to yourself, well, what if I showed up at your hospital? This is what you think. You're jumping up and down and cheering and the amount of them is maybe it shouldn't be to me, but it is, it's stunning, it's astonishing.

[Vinny Mac]

Not only all the people, I've never.

[Damon]

Seen it, I've never seen what I've seen in the last 24 hours.

[Vinny Mac]

Me neither. I've never seen that. But I've also never seen a narrative where the President of the United States and the movement, the President's called Hitler and we're all Nazis as MAGA supporters, you know, all these bad things, they, they have sort of created such anger and that anger has turned into violence and that anger has brainwashed some very smart people.

[Damon]

All right, 26 past the hour, live from Studio 6B. More to do. Get some news, some thoughts, see what's going on at Yankee Stadium. Bring you up to date with what's going on with the search for this subhuman all. When we get back.

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[Damon]

All right, live from Studio 6P 30 minutes past the hour on a Thursday night, September 11, 2025, 24 years removed from September 11, 2001, when the world and certainly this country changed forever. And we'll have some more remembrances of September 11th. But let's get into a little bit of the news today.

[Rick Delgado]

Do you really want to? Well, all right.

[Damon]

It is the news of the day.

[Rick Delgado]

Unfortunately, it is.

[Damon]

A couple things. So I guess this was this morning about 10 hours ago the police did a press conference and we started to learn some more information and I'm just, I'm happened to pull it this article from the Wall Street Journal and they've been updating it throughout the day. But the headline back then, after the police gave their first update of the day early bulletin said ammunition in Charlie Kirk shooting engraved with transgender anti fascist ideology. An early bulletin circulated widely among law enforcement officials said investigators found ammunition engraved with expressions of transgender and anti fascist ideology inside the rifle that authorities believed was used in the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk. But some officials later Thursday cautioned against reaching conclusions based on the internal report. So what we do know is they have the gun. There's been some pictures of that, I guess what is a 30 caliber or so long, some kind of rifle. Right.

[Rick Delgado]

Bolt action rifle.

[Damon]

Bolt action rifle. And I guess they, the reports are when they, the gun still obviously had bullets, I believe in the chamber and in the mag. And that's where some of these reports are coming from. Now, they have not arrested anybody, but supposedly they're on the trail of someone.

[Rick Delgado]

Yeah, they released photos.

[Damon]

There's been some, yeah, they've released some photos. Some pretty, pretty clear photos. Sunglasses, but still pretty clear photos. There has been some speculation that they have a name. I've seen a lot of stuff that says, hold on, they don't have a name. I've also seen reports that Dan Bongino and Kash Patel are on a plane to Utah.

[Rick Delgado]

Yeah, that I heard as well.

[Damon]

John Solomon has also reported that. And at the end of John Solomon's show with Amanda, he, he also said he was getting reports that they may be closing in. But obviously we all have to be a little patient there. But it's hard for me to imagine cash moving to that area if this was still a big throw your Hands up in the air. I mean, if he wants to. I mean, it would seem to me that he would want to be there.

[Rick Delgado]

No, it seems like something this high.

[Damon]

Profile that he'd want to be there would be a reason he'd be going, because they're going to. About to collar this guy right now. What else have you heard?

[Rick Delgado]

I would be a little leery of jumping on the. The ideology inscribed bullets, because that's what we saw out of that kid in Minnesota. Seems a little all too convenient. I don't know, maybe that was part of the let's throw them off the trail kind of thing. Or if it was, you know, I'm not going to. I'm not going to. It almost seems like they want us to think some. A certain way. Let's wait. As Bongino always used to say, just wait. Give it 48 hours, 72 hours sometimes, and then you'll start to see the truth come out. So I think in this respect, and in me, I like to be over my skis, Damon, you know this. I'm gonna adhere to that and just say, you know what? Let's just step back and let these guys do their job. Because it seems a little too professional. I heard one. One expert talking about the range, the wind, accountability, some of the other factors that come into making and taking and making a shot like this, even though, you know, some people might go, oh, well, 200. 200ft isn't that far. But whatever. Whatever it was, whatever the distance was, using that type of rifle, being at a purse position.

[Damon]

I heard Dallas, what's his name, he's one of the top snipers in the world, said he could teach somebody to hit that shot in an afternoon if they had even the most basic, most basic idea of a weapon coming into the training.

[Vinny Mac]

Right, right.

[Rick Delgado]

But again, we're led to believe that if it's some liberal wacko that, you know, they probably don't train all that much, and this could be their first time using a weapon. That's from the. You know, that's. That's what we're. We're conditioned to believe from the left, is that they're just crazy and that it's just this seems too.

[Frank]

Too good, too calculated.

[Rick Delgado]

Too calculated, has a plan of escape. Didn't. Didn't, you know, go crazy, like, oh, you know, go out swinging, go out shooting, death by death by cop kind of thing.

[Damon]

Thing.

[Rick Delgado]

So that's why I would just caution, you know what, let's take a step back, give it some time and see what Comes of that something you said in the last segment, Damon, kind of prompted something that I remember we talked about actually here on the show back in June from Mike Benz when you said, you know, seeing, seeing the reaction of some of these, these teachers, these lawyers, these doctors. This is not a mistake. You're seeing this because that is, that's who's been trained to, to think this way. We talked about this. Mike Benz did a whole segment on this. It's part of CIA training is to infiltrate these groups and have them be influencers in this way. I just posted that to our. To my X account if you want to check it out for yourself. The first two minutes says it all about how they do this, how the CIA does this, how they infiltrate these groups, how they collectively can use this type of manipulation to create a riot. So just something, just something to be mindful of.

[Damon]

Aaron, since this is. Looks like it's just out, why let's. Looks like the Utah. Let me see what this says. Utah police release additional photos of the Charlie Kirk assassination suspect. You want to throw these up? So this is kind of similar to the pic what we saw before. Same shirt.

[Rick Delgado]

Is that the same shirt? The same. That.

[Damon]

Yeah, it says. Yep, it's the same one.

[Rick Delgado]

The graphic looks a little different from what I've seen.

[Damon]

Yeah, it's not. It's the same one.

[Rick Delgado]

Okay. That one.

[Damon]

So they released those four. There's also some video roaming around of supposedly this guy in the neighborhood around the school. Some of it before, you can take it down Aaron and some of it afterwards. And you can see the befores he's. He walks with a pretty significant limp. And the speculation is that he had the. You walking with the limp because he had this rifle tucked down the pants up, up the side. So he was kind of. I, I mean, and again, who knows? Like, I, I'm. I'm with Delgado on all this always. Just let's wait and see where the facts take us. But we do know for a fact that Cash Patel and Dan Bongino are supposedly on, if not already on their way to Utah. The other, the other news of the day that I think is worth really focusing on because it's been absolutely so beautiful to. And I mean beautiful in one respect and obviously so gut wrenching in the other is the behavior of our, our vice president. And that's J.D. vance.

[Vinny Mac]

Yeah.

[Damon]

And J.D. vance flew on Air Force Two to, to Utah to see the, see the casket off and load it onto Air Force Two, which he's there right in.

[Frank]

The front I think he helped.

[Damon]

Yeah.

[Frank]

Helped carry it.

[Damon]

Yeah. And walked it onto the plane.

[Frank]

Wow, look at that.

[Vinny Mac]

His wife as well, you know, went out there, held hands with. With Charlie's wife.

[Damon]

Well, that was. That was. Once they got back to Arizona. I'll get to that in one second. But the Vice President flew out there and walked and helped load the casket onto Air Force It. What a. What. What a. What a beautiful gesture for the Vice President to go out there and bring our brother home to where he belongs, to be there with the family. Here's. Here's the. Here's Air Force Two actually arriving in Arizona. Obviously not. Not a. Not a long. Not that long of a flight.

[Rick Delgado]

Yeah. JD was originally supposed to attend the 911 commemoration at ground zero this morning.

[Damon]

Yeah.

[Rick Delgado]

But at the last minute, opted instead to travel to Utah aboard Air Force Two to be with Kirk's. Charlie Kirk's family and his friends, and of course, escort the body home.

[Damon]

And here. And here is.

[Vinny Mac]

They were friends.

[Damon]

Yeah.

[Frank]

Wow.

[Damon]

They sure were. Sure. I mean, Don Jr. Don Jr. And Charlie Kirk were almost like he called him his little brother. And obviously they pushed very hard for J.D. vance to be the VP. We remember going through all that. Here's the first real footage, though, of the casket getting taken off Air Force Two. Man, it's just unbelievable to even watch this and believe it's happening. Yeah. But you'll see that J.D. vince, his wife departs Air Force Two, as you'll see here in a little bit, with Charlie Kirk's wife in hand. Kind of the first time we've. We've seen them.

[Frank]

This wasn't that long ago, right?

[Damon]

No, this just happened about, you know, an hour and a half an hour or so ago. Yeah. So just, Just. Just beautiful. Surreal, honestly, obviously, but beautiful gesture by our vice President. And the President today. Spoke on it. Yeah. Yeah.

[Vinny Mac]

I. I love the idea that they were friends. I had dinner tonight with someone in the Trump administration, and they were telling me Charlie Kirk stories. And the thing that really struck me in the stories they were telling is a lot of people went to Charlie for advice, and a lot of people knew him well. Like, he was not someone that was a standoffish guy or wasn't talking to a lot of folks and being friendly and becoming friends. He was much like you see him in all of his videos, just a very engaging guy. Curious. Wants to speak with you. But I was really struck by the level of sort of friendship that he made with many people, not just a few in there, of course. Don Jr. And JD rise to the top there because they were friends with him for a long time. There was talk of him having a serious run for the presidency at some point. He was someone that, that folks felt they could build around down the road as president. I mean, he was highly, highly thought of within not just the administration, but all throughout the Republicans in Washington. And a friend, a friend, not just a senator, a colleague.

[Damon]

I mean, it was the most logical next step in the next 10 years, you would think maybe 10, 15 years. He's only 31. We got to be in the early 40s, 45. Yeah, he would have built such a, I mean, he's already built such a huge movement, but a huge connection with the younger voters in this, of this country. Imagine another 10 years of this, another 12, 15 years of this, and then run. I mean, it was, it would only be, it would be what was left for somebody like him. Right.

[Vinny Mac]

Exactly. Exactly.

[Damon]

Right. So tough man. Tough, tough, tough shows to do. All right, 17 till the hour. We'll do some more when we get back right after this.

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[Damon]

All right, live from Studio 6B 13 till the hour on September 11, 24 years removed from the attack on this country. September 11, 2001. Charlie Kirk's casket has arrived in Arizona. JD Vance on Air Force Two went to Utah to load the casket onto Air Force two. Then he flew with the family back to Arizona where they have now arrived. And there are thousands of patriots that have lined the streets for the motorcade for Charlie Kirk in Arizona right now. There's not a ton of footage of it yet, but if we get any, we'll bring it to you. As far as what's going on with it, we're trying to find this subhuman scum, FBI Director Cash Patel. Our understanding, listen to John Solomon, is that he is on his way, if not already arrived, I believe with Dan Bongino as well, to Utah. And I mean it's hard for me to imagine they're going out there just to get an update. It would seem like if they're going out there, they're going out there because stuff's going down or they're getting close.

[Rick Delgado]

Well, according to something I think Slick saw, they've got a press conference scheduled with Cash patel at approximately 9:30.

[Damon]

Okay. So if that happens, we will absolutely be on every second of that. We'll find it somewhere and we will bring it to you. FBI. Actually, Nick Sorter just right here in front of me now. FBI Director Cash Patel and Deputy Director Bongino are officially on the ground in Utah at the scene of Charlie Kirk's killing. An FBI press conference is now scheduled to happen within one hour. It's about to get real. He says, well, we don't know that. All right? That's what we know. So let's not, not that we're not lighten the mood, but there is some other stuff going on and President Trump has decided to go slick to a Yankee Stadium tonight. What's. So give me a little, give me a little update and show me some of what's happened there so far.

[Frank]

President Trump in the Bronx. President Donald Trump attends New York Yankees game on 9 11. James Williams of USA Today reporting. President Donald Trump. Trump was in attendance for the New York Yankees game against the Detroit tigers on Thursday, September 11th. The Yankees held a pregame ceremony Thursday to recognize the victims and heroes of 911 on the 24th anniversary of the terrorist attacks where nearly 3,000 people died as a result of the attacks that happened on that day in 2001. We do have some cuts here, I believe. Is it cut seven, Aaron, where we have the president in the clubhouse with the guys. This is right before the game, maybe about 7:15 or so. Well, you're gonna win. I'll tell you what. George Sanber was a great friend of mine, the whole family, it's a great family and Randy is wonderful and I will say you're gonna win. George used to coach for some reason, I don't know what it was, we won every time I came. Randy, is that right? Every time we came, we'd win a game and he'd call me. He was. You think that was easy, sitting with him for a game? It wasn't. It was brutal. You were exhausted at the end, but he won. And you're going to win. You're going to go all the way and you get in the playoff. And I think you're going to do. I think we'll start off. How about tonight? We'll start from tonight and you're going to do well. Randy was telling me the Boston Red Sox came to the Oval Office. They wanted to come. So I said, what am I going to do? Say no. And they won 15 games in a row. That was bad news.

[Damon]

Bad news.

[Frank]

We're changing the luck here right now. Mr. We're going to change it right now. So I just want to wish you guys a lot, like you're great players. I know every one of you. Let me shake hands around here.

[Vinny Mac]

Come On.

[Frank]

Judge, who, by the way, the Yankees are taking care of business. They're up nine to one right now in the fifth inning. And Aaron Judge right there hit two homers, two home runs. Aaron Judge coming up.

[Damon]

Judge is coming up. You'll know when he gets them because he's about nine feet tall. He makes me look small.

[Frank]

And. Yeah, he. He's had two homers tonight already. Yankees are an absolute fire. Absolute fire. So looking good there. And we have a. We'll get to the next cut in a second.

[Damon]

Yeah, yeah. Nice reception for the President. Oh, beautiful.

[Rick Delgado]

Shaking hands with everybody.

[Frank]

Everybody.

[Damon]

Wait till you see the reception right inside.

[Rick Delgado]

Yankee.

[Damon]

Sam.

[Rick Delgado]

Yeah, Yankee.

[Damon]

Yankee fans are. No, no, fools.

[Frank]

Now, most of these Yankee fans are real patriots, too. Look at Delgado.

[Rick Delgado]

Look at the size of football player.

[Damon]

When you have much muscle, you have to hit the ball.

[Frank]

Amazing baseball player, huh?

[Vinny Mac]

Trump was a baseball player, you know, in college or West Point.

[Damon]

Right.

[Frank]

Did he play? He played. I think he played bull in West Point. Yeah.

[Vinny Mac]

Yeah.

[Frank]

And I think.

[Damon]

What?

[Frank]

Cut seven. We have him in his seats at the Yankee Stadium. Aaron.

[Damon]

Right.

[Frank]

There he is.

[Vinny Mac]

Boy.

[Frank]

God, we hope the security is phenomenal. Big D says is probably the safest place in the country.

[Damon]

Place in the world to be tonight.

[Frank]

We're the best. Bronx normally is not. We know that outside anyway. Look at that.

[Rick Delgado]

You get the stadium chanting usa.

[Damon]

I don't know if you have this one, Aaron, but this is. This was the. This was the national anthem. And they've. And by the way, the NYPD officers that sing the national anthem are always great. Can you see by the dawn, early.

[Frank]

Night, little Johnny Mattis. Look at that. Yes, Good stuff.

[Damon]

Nice reception for the President.

[Frank]

Yeah, He's a leader.

[Rick Delgado]

Fire department, too.

[Damon]

Oh. Which it was. Yeah, Yeah. I think they alternate.

[Frank]

And if you'd like to roll back 24 years, big D, we have cut six, where George Bush was out there throwing the first pitch. Game three of the World Series.

[Damon]

Actually, before we get to that, let me give you TRUMP 1, because I think they did an official announcement over the. Over the loudspeaker.

[Vinny Mac]

New York Yankees, welcome back to Yankee Stadium. The 45th and 47th President of the.

[Damon]

United States, Donald J. Trump.

[Vinny Mac]

Solemn anniversary, September 11, 2001.

[Damon]

BC Richard.

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[Rick Delgado]

They really do that.

[Frank]

What'd they pay for that? Good Lord. Oh, man. Oh, D.C. richard, God bless you.

[Damon]

So. Yeah, go ahead.

[Frank]

Yeah, Well, I want to set that up.

[Damon]

So it was an iconic moment. The story behind it is iconic. When he went down into the tunnel with Jeter.

[Vinny Mac]

Yeah.

[Damon]

And of course, Jeter told him another Yankee legend, Don't bounce it. He said, what do you mean? He said, don't bounce it because they'll boo you. He said, don't bounce this pitch in front of the mound. If you. He said, you're going to throw from. So the story is Jeter went the to the President and said, are you going to throw from the, from the rubber or. And from in front of the mounds, you know, make it a little shorter. And he said, well, I'm going to throw from the rubber. And he said, that's a good idea. He said, but don't bounce it. Says, what do you mean? He says, no, don't bounce it. He goes, because I know you're the President, but they'll boo the hell out of you. And boy, he fired a strike. You have that, Aaron.

[Rick Delgado]

Tonight's ceremonial first pitch.

[Damon]

And please welcome the President of the United States.

[Rick Delgado]

Stinks.

[Frank]

Yankee Stadium, right, Rick? Oh, I mean, come on.

[Damon]

Oh, yeah.

[Frank]

I think it's the best first pitch I've ever seen.

[Damon]

A nomin. A little movement on that ball, too.

[Rick Delgado]

Yeah, not only that, remember, he was, he was. He had a full vest. Yeah, that's right. He been right underneath that jacket.

[Frank]

You know, Tori's asking him, you want to sign the contract. That was Game 3 of the World Series. So that was October 30th, which we were talking. Rick reminded me it was about three weeks before anybody was playing any ball there. And yeah, so it took game three, which was the first home game for the Yankees in that World Series, which they did unfortunately lose that series to the Arizona.

[Damon]

All right, wrap on hour one, hour two live from Studio 6B right after this. Sam.

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[Damon]

All right. Hour two live from studio 6B. Live shot of the Freedom Tower, New York City on a Thursday night, September 11, 2025, 24 years removed from 9 11. The day that the world changed. This country changed. A lot of our lives changed. We talked a little bit now or one about how all of our kind of personal remembrances of that day. So it's been a spinoff. Boy, I don't know. And we've done this show. You know, me and Vin started this in 2015. I don't, I don't know. I can remember a heavier week of of news that really has changed. I I don't know the last. I have not. I feel fine. Not that I don't feel good, but I just. Man, I'm just affected in a way. And I said this yesterday and it's just so strange because I met Charlie Kirk barely one time. Didn't know him at all. Like, guys on this network have known him so well, but. And I don't know if it's just because you can't get. Every single post is about him, but I don't know, Vin, I don't know if you've. I'm sure you've experienced to being there, but just this one's just. Something's just different.

[Vinny Mac]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'll say two things on that subject. Number one, how proud I am to be associated with this network. The owner of the network is as emotionally affected by what has happened here as anybody on the planet involved. Knowing Charlie or not knowing Charlie, he is just strongly emotionally connected to it, as are many people here. So seeing that makes me feel proud to be associated with people that care that much about faith, about a person, and about the mission. But the thing about Charlie that I find most striking with people who don't know him, people who've just seen his videos, people have seen him on TV or seen him in interviews and so on. And I think I speak for most people out there who might be watching our show right now. We all feel like we know him. We all feel like we know him because he was that kind of guy in how he talked and how he presented. You just felt like. I'm not watching some TV anchor, some TV star, some guy. I'm watching a guy I know talking about something he feels strongly about, and I happen to agree with him. And I think people just connected so much with him personally that they feel. And they felt they know him, and that's why we're getting such a strong reaction. I see messages all day. I'm getting messaged constantly from folks watching our show. And I'm looking at the stream now. People crying over someone they really don't know, but they know through media. And that's how intimate the relationship was with Charlie and just the audience in general. So I think that's part of the answer there, Damon, as to how people are reacting.

[Damon]

And I want to thank people. Speaking of people reacting, people reacting to our opening segment and getting a lot of messages about our opening segments and a lot about my relationship with my. What started out as college roommate ended as best friend. And so I want to thank you for that. But please don't call him Caldwell. Call him Baldwill.

[Vinny Mac]

So out of respect, please, Baldwin.

[Damon]

Yeah. Three minutes past the hour. Hour two. What's the. So we have a live feed up of what we believe will be the FBI update, supposedly here's who's going to be involved with it, just so you know. And this is all happening in real time. So we believe this will be a press conference around 9:30pm and it will be FBI Director Cash Patel, FBI Special Agent in Charge Robert Bowles, Utah Governor Spencer Cox, Utah Department of Public Safety Commissioner Beau Mason. So that's who we believe we're going to get at 9:30. So we do have a live feed up of what we believe will be the room that there's some. They're setting up TV right now, putting the podium in place so we have it. We'll put it up when there's something to see if it starts on time. President Trump is at the Yankee game. He's brought him good luck once again as they are right now. What's the updates look, it was nine to one.

[Frank]

Last look in the fifth inning and.

[Damon]

I believe nine to one, bottom of the fifth. Yeah, nine to one, two outs. So about to go to the six. So good game, Yankees. President Trump, he says they win every time he goes. They may need to get him a seat if they make the playoffs.

[Frank]

I think the Mets may need to ask him to drop by. They're losing again tonight. Can you stop at Citi Field, Mr. President?

[Damon]

Frank the tank is going to be. Oh my God, he's already lost it. He's going to have a full out meltdown here pretty soon. Well, he does every night, but I.

[Rick Delgado]

Was going to say, doesn't he? Every night?

[Damon]

Yeah, every night.

[Frank]

He's worse than me.

[Damon]

Off the chain.

[Rick Delgado]

Something else from earlier today, of course, being September 11th. President Donald Trump spoke at the Pentagon earlier today to give his condolences and telling the stories of those who died on the attacks of September 11th in 2001. In his speech, Trump mentioned that the pentagon was built 84 years ago. And on September 11, 2001, those same walls, built with the sweat and muscle blood of our parents and grandparents, were scarred by flame and shaken by terror as our country came face to face with pure evil. On that fateful day, savage monsters attacked the very symbols of our civilization. So he mentioned that this morning, of course, celebrations in New York City. J.D. vance was supposed to be on hand, changed his plans last minute for the ushering, or I should say accompanying of Charlie Clark's body back home, which you.

[Damon]

Can throw this up. Aaron. This is a, I believe a if not exactly live very, very not too long ago, Charlie Kirk's body has arrived. The casket has arrived at his church where he attended mass every Sunday. And they're moving it inside the church. So that's happening now as well. There is other news. Today we had a lockdown at the.

[Rick Delgado]

What the Marine U.S. naval Academy Academy. What's the update on Maryland as far as and this was from I want to say about 7pm I haven't checked for any updates. U.S. naval Academy in Annapolis lockdown after an active shooter threats. Gunshots were heard inside. Supposedly there are some injuries, some casualties. Still don't have full picture, at least from what I'm seeing here on some of the news sites that I'm using. But it said the US Naval Academy on lockdown after midshipmen who had been kicked out of the school returned to campus armed with a weapon. And according to multiple services at the U.S. naval Academy. Don't let the the situation and the date go unnoticed. Gunshots were heard inside Bancroft hall, which houses the midshipmen. One victim was verified to be transferred via medical helicopter. Multiple other victims were being assessed at that time. However, according to an internal email from Captain David Forman, deputy Commandant of Midshipman. A midshipman mistook authorized law enforcement as a threat, engaged and was injured in the process. The email said the midshipman is stable and receiving medical attention. The shooter is knocking on doors pretending to be military police.

[Damon]

Heard that.

[Rick Delgado]

So scary situation. And again, don't let the what is going on there? Don't get lost on the fact that today is September 11th as well. This is when you see these kinds of things happen and these lunatics look for, you know, opportunities on certain days to do things like this. Unfortunately.

[Damon]

I'd also like to mention because we, we always mention all the bad things, so we should mention at least the good. And the NFL tonight before their game actually held held a moment of silence for Charlie Kirk on the national broadcast, which I'm just seeing now. So I guess good for them.

[Vinny Mac]

Excellent. Yeah.

[Damon]

And I saw Tucker on with Megyn Kelly. Man, Megyn Kelly is so good. Her show is so good. What she's building there. She had Tucker on and Tucker started a givesend go. He put a million bucks in it himself. And it's out there now. I think it's probably close to 2 million, I think now I'd be shocked if it's anything less than 5 or 10 by the time it all gets done. So I know that, that, that he started that and I think there's other ones as well going on. What else is on your mind, Vin? Anything else in the news or anything else that's caught your attention? I mean, it's hard outside of the. These three things this week, but anything else?

[Vinny Mac]

Yeah, you know, just. Just more reflection, you know, as far as. There's lots of stuff in the news, there's lots of, of bad things, of people celebrating his death and so on. But I've been reflecting on just moments in history, particularly in our country. World War II, the Japanese bomb, Pearl harbor, that created what we've all referred to as the greatest generation. People enlisted, people wanted to fight that war, they wanted to take Hitler out, so on and so forth. It was a monumental moment in history. And the greatest generation. When 911 happened, I mean, how many people? I mean, I know several and I'm sure you guys do as well, that enlisted, that wound up going to Iraq and Afghanistan and so on and fighting the fight because of what happened in 9 11. It created another generation of great Americans. And I feel like that's what we need to embrace here now with Charlie's passing. You know, it's such an appropriate name, turning point in his whole cause. But we need to now react as those people did, not in a warfare, not in a violent way, but in continuing to push strongly forward to getting our country back on solid ground. As we are starting to see. That's what Charlie was all about. Faith and the truth and all of these things that we believe in as maga. He was all about those things. And I do want and hope that the result of his death inspires people on a positive way to be constructive, to help our country just get better and get away from this progressive left wing, anti God, anti faith sensibility that the progressives and the left have brought in there. And that's all I've really been thinking about, Damon. And I've seen a lot of news and I've seen a lot of things I'm not happy about and people talking about things. I've seen a lot of passion, a lot of tears. But at the end of the day, I land right there. I'm like, let's make this a turning point for our country and our people. It's no longer we support maga. It's no longer we want to fix this country. It's like now we each need to take a more active role in all of this. We need to be more purposeful. Many have. And I think many more now need to. Let's take Charlie's death and what he stood for and create energy around that to improve our country. In particular, bringing God back into our country, into our lives and into our politics even, because it's only goodness with that. And that's what Charlie was about. So that's what's been on my mind. There are lots of other things that I can refer to here, but when I think about the enormity of what we've all just gone through with Charlie's assassination, there has to be as strong an emotion on a positive level taking us forward into a productive way to fix these things. And to me, it's as important as the guys who went storming out to go to war at World War II. The Greatest Generation. We have a chance to be the greatest generation now. The people following Charlie, those young people, they have a chance to be the greatest generation right now.

[Damon]

All right, well said. Live from Studio 6, speed 13 past the hour. The great Larry Arn from Hillsdale College put out a statement tonight and I want to play it for you when we get back. Plus we'll get to some other things and we'll get ready for what we think is going to be at 9:30 presser with Kash Patel. Get an update on where we are. Live from Studio 6B. More after this.

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[Damon]

17 past nine the hour. Live from Studio 6B on a Thursday night, September 11th, 2025. Glad you're in Slick Sierra is doing just a touch of sports tonight because the President's obviously at Yankee stadium. Yankees are up 9 1, playing well in front of the President United States who got a great reception at Yankee Stadium on this remembrance, 24 years removed from September 11, 22,001. So the President's still there. We're waiting for a press conference that we believe from FBI Director Cash Patel and Governor of Utah Spencer Cox, who by the way was quite fantastic. I don't, I don't know as much about him as I know about other governors, but in the, in the update they gave the other day, he was, he was pretty good. Very good as a matter of fact, very strong, which is what we, what we need here because we need justice to be swift and we needed to be ferocious. So it's good to see the governor seemingly will be in line with the President and Cash Patel in Pambandi. Larry Arne is the president of Hillsdale College, a great university, a great bastion for individual liberty, freedom, the Constitution. He put out A statement tonight that I want to play for you on Charlie Kirk. Here it is.

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I want to express the condolences of my wife and me and of all of Hillsdale College to the family, Erica and the children of Charlie Kirk. Charlie was a friend of mine. The way he became a friend tells something not so much about what he achieved, which is famous, but how he achieved it and how he deserved to achieve it. I met Charlie when he was 19. He was already becoming famous. So I asked him what he did and he said he did Turning Point. And I said, what is that? He said he's going to improve the culture on college campuses. He had this curious mind. He wanted to improve it, he wanted to grow. He had the humility to know that it was important to know and that he didn't. And he had the confidence and assertion to seek to know. And what did he want to know? He wanted to know all the basic, basic things on this earth and he wanted to know how they reach up to heaven, where he must be now. He was a believer in the Almighty God and a faithful servant of him. It was been no surprise to me then that Charlie would build a massive organization reaching millions of people. No surprise to me that the 800 or so people who work for him him loved to do that, found him an excellent boss. No surprise to me that he would go on college campuses on the day he was shot and address all under the topic prove me wrong. No surprise to me that he would be incisive and effective in those arguments. No surprise to me that he was never demeaning of anybody and he never lost his temper. He was a reasonable man. He was a serious man. You get to be that by making yourself that the wicked man who shot him has to be the worst kind of person because likely it will prove that he shot him because of his virtues. I'm privileged to know lots and lots of high minded, intelligent and serious young people. Charlie is one of the best I ever saw. It's an honor to have known him. The benefits he brought our country will continue. In some ways they will grow because of his martyrdom. I want Erica to know that we will help her with those children in any way it is in the power of a college to help and that is some significant way. And I want everybody to stop and pause and think about the good of Charlie Kirk and pray for his family.

[Damon]

Thank you, the great Larry Arne from Hillsdale. And well said, Vin. Huh?

[Vinny Mac]

Magnificent. Magnificent, he said. Couldn't say it better.

[Damon]

Yeah, beautiful. In Hillsdale's A. We never made it there in our college search, although I wanted to. To, but just a little too far away. But, you know, in a place where you wouldn't think, obviously, in Michigan, in the location of where Hillsdale is, is this little bastion of freedom in Larry on make sure that it stays that way and those kids who go there come out well the way we want all of our kids to come out of college. And unfortunately, that may be the only place, maybe a few others. Liberty University, I believe, believe. Loving this country, understanding this country, understanding the good and the bad of this country, because there is both, of course, but they understand our Constitution. They understand that we're a country of citizens. Yes, we're a country of immigrants, but we're a country of citizens first. And they understand what the founders of this country set out to achieve and why we're not a democracy, a pure democracy, like a lot of the left would like. We're a constitutional republic, and why it is that we're a constitutional republic and what it means to have representative government and what it means to have private property rights and what it means to believe in following natural law and what it means to believe in upward mobility and why we have that and why capitalism is the greatest force for good ever.

[Rick Delgado]

Yeah. And, Damon, you weren't there that night. Back on the 4th of August, we had one of Hillsdale's finest in our live audience at the America First Warehouse. Her name was Emma. She came up to talk with Kevin Downey Jr. And she was, you know, it was almost like. Firecracker. Yeah, she was a firecracker. She was. She was spirited. She had great things to say, and she, you know, kind of encompassed that type of thinking of, you know, being proud of yourself, being proud of what you believe moving forward, being positive. She encompassed all that that night and shared it with. With us, you know, at the America First Warehouse and with the. With the live audience. Yeah. As well. Was a great. It was a great show. She was with her dad, and her dad comes. I think her dad has been back a couple times since.

[Frank]

Yeah. So I'm the other. A couple Friday nights ago.

[Damon]

Yeah.

[Rick Delgado]

Because she. She went back to school, but, you know, local. Local kid, local family. And her dad was back, I think, last weekend.

[Frank]

I think one of our teachers came, too, if I'm not mistaken, with the D. Dad. Yeah.

[Damon]

Yeah.

[Rick Delgado]

So they put out some.

[Vinny Mac]

She was amazing.

[Rick Delgado]

Yeah, they put out some good. Good quality kids out there, and she was one of them. Definitely.

[Vinny Mac]

You could tell she survived Kevin, too, which is interesting. She did pretty well with him.

[Frank]

That's always a slippery, slippery slop.

[Vinny Mac]

Steaming clams. They are doing something.

[Rick Delgado]

What was amazing is he couldn't get a word in edgewise.

[Damon]

Really?

[Rick Delgado]

Yeah. I'm telling you, she was fine.

[Damon]

She was great. Wow.

[Rick Delgado]

A young woman of conviction and. And this is the kind of stuff she wants to look forward to doing in the future as well. So. You know what? We'll probably see her again at some point.

[Vinny Mac]

Yep. That's for sure.

[Damon]

Let's go into the chat, chat, chat, see what's going on. Sherry Merrill says yes. She did great. If you're watching on any of our socials, I appreciate it. You know what I was thinking, knowing that this. I mean, these shows are hard to do two hours when there's really nothing else. It's not that there's nothing else to talk about, but you just don't feel like it's. Yeah, it's just not appropriate.

[Vinny Mac]

Right, right.

[Damon]

I was thinking all day, you know what I would have loved to have done tonight is just to open up the phone lines and talk to the audience. That's really what I wanted to do.

[Vinny Mac]

I like that.

[Damon]

Well, that's really what I wanted to do. But we just. Unfortunately, right now, I don't have a way to do it.

[Rick Delgado]

Yeah. And you know, David, it's funny you say that because that's how I described what. What happened to us on. On September 11th back in 2001 with the Ona show. That's exactly how we had to deal with it. And it, you know, people look for outlets and, you know, even I think just us talking gives them the opportunity to feel like they're included. And part of this conversation that we're having, even though we're not covering, you know, other specific news and stuff like that, you know, sometimes just hearing people talk about the things that are important to them, them helps them in their healing as well. So.

[Damon]

All right, 26 past the hour. We'll see what else is on Minimax Minds. Look who give us an update on the game, see what other headlines Delgado has, and then we'll get ready for what we believe is going to be a 9:30 update. Although looking at the live feed, it looks like they're having. They need Harry on the highway there. They can't get the TV to work.

[Rick Delgado]

Oh, no, it sounds like he's there.

[Damon]

So he might actually be there in disguise.

[Frank]

He did leave earlier and he might have that.

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[Damon]

All right, 30 minutes past the hour. Live from Studio 6B on a Thursday night, September 11th, 2025, 24 years removed from a day that changed us forever in this country, New York City. We, we were trying to effort getting Rudy Giuliani on tonight, but the mayor obviously had some previous things he had to go to in the city. We were going to try to speak to Rudy. Rudy was on the show obviously, a couple years ago. I think it was 20, 22 or so when the Hunter laptop hard drive broke. He was on. We're talking about Joe and Hunter. But I would have loved to have spoken to the David Zier, spoke to him earlier in the special that Rev had on earlier in the day. But yeah, it's amazing. 24 years, it just says. Doesn't seem like 24 years never goes away. The feelings of that day and the loss for everybody and the loss comes in different ways for everybody. But as I said before, and I think it's probably worth mentioning again, especially given the other. What we're dealing with this week is, you know, here you had a. Here you had an outside attack on the country from people who wanted to silence us, from people who wanted to get us out of our way of life, get us out of thinking that we were always safe. Get us out of thinking that it can't happen to you, get us out of thinking that, you know, this is America. This is the home of the free. This is the financial capital of the world, the Statue of Liberty, all of the things. And they thought they could strike us at the heart of, of New York City and of, of the, of. Of the United States at the time and think about Charlie Kirk in a way. Similar.

[Vinny Mac]

Yeah.

[Damon]

People on the inside now of the country, very similar. Political terrorism trying to tell us that, no, you're going to be quiet. And you. We're words to them. Words are violence because they can't win on the, on the, on the field of ideas. I feel a lot of those same sentiments. They're trying to tell us you can just shut up and go in the corner. That's your, that's your choice. That's choice one. And choice two is to follow choice one. That's what the left thinks. There is no other choice.

[Rick Delgado]

Right. And that's, you know, that's that mentality, that globalist way of thinking that will tell you what you can do, where you can go, what you can, what you can like, what you can dislike and what you can say and what you can't say. And that's. It's all about control, right? Like you said, that they want to try to control. They, it came from the outside the first time, and now they're trying it from the inside. And, you know, they think that they think they silenced. They think they silenced the voice. They think they silenced the voice of Charlie Kirk yesterday. What they really did was they, they amplified everybody else else, because everybody else from us here on this show and every conservative commentator out there. I feel like this is. Now, you know what? We need to be even louder to make sure that his voice doesn't go silent because there was, you know, there was a lot that he was doing that was disturbing a lot of people. And you know what? Now it's time for us to pick up that mantle and keep pushing that forward.

[Damon]

I'm not going to give you the whole thing, but there's, there's. Well, there's a bunch of great stuff in the American Thinker today, but one of the articles is entitled Charlie Kirk's Death and America Regaining Its Footing on the Righteous Path by Vince Coiner. And after he talks about Charlie, he gets to addressing the, the left. And I, and I read you yesterday Erik Erickson's piece on. Not piece, but his tweet on son, don't fall for the whole, like, this is a both sides thing, right? And he says in this article, he says for the left, because Charlie was such a successful shepherd of, of a young man and he had young men and women who listened to him, he had to be eliminated. Whether it's rioting and burning down cities across the country, using mob tactics to intimidate speakers and politicians, or literally killing their opponents, the left in America has lost its battle for the mind of the American man and woman. In the world of ideas, the left has lost the debate and has nothing left to offer but violence. And the killing of Charlie Kirk is the ultimate example of exactly that. And I think that's exactly to the point. Point.

[Rick Delgado]

Did you have a chance to see what Clay Travis had to say today?

[Damon]

I did not.

[Rick Delgado]

I've got that here if you want to go to it. It's cut number one. It's about two minutes long, but, man, it flies by because he makes such great points. And again, it's about the, the rhetoric that the left uses. And, you know, we've got to be open to saying, you know, it's. It, it really isn't on both sides, guys. It really isn't on both sides. Sides. It's really coming from the left. Here's cut one, Travis.

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I am tired of Hearing people say, like Barack Obama did, like Hillary Clinton did, oh, we condemn this violence. Guess what? You can't call the President of the United States for 10 years Adolf Hitler. And you can't say that he's a fascist dictator. And you can't say that anyone who votes, voted for Trump or advocated for him, like you, me, Riley and Charlie Kirk are Nazis. And then when someone tries to kill us, you can't suddenly say, oh, we condemn this violence. You caused it. Look at me right now. You caused this. When you tell people that someone is Hitler, you are telling crazy people, go kill them. And I am sick of pretending that that is it anything other than what they're doing. That guy in West Palm beach, what did he say? He was killing Trump because he believed Trump was Hitler. This is what they do, all right, this left wing violence, it's out of control. And Charlie Kirk bore the brunt of that left wing violence. And guess what? But for the twist of his head, at the last minute, Donald Trump's head would have been blown off on live television. Television. And that is intentional. They are lighting fires and then claiming, oh, what do you know, there's a fire there. They're doing it on purpose. Msnbc, Sean, you watch this. They were live on the air saying one of their guys said they put out a PR statement. He said, well, Charlie Kirk was riddled basically with hate. And when you put hate out into the world, this kind of thing happens. Oh, tough break. You get shot and killed, even though you're completely innocent and all you're doing is making arguments for the betterment of the country. Tough break for your young daughter, tough break for your son, for your lovely wife that will never get the opportunity to see you grow old with them. I am so angry and I understand everybody out there says, well, we have to tamp down the anger. I'm not willing to do that right now because I get angrier the more I think about this, Sean. They put the wheels of motion for this in order. They did it, Sean.

[Rick Delgado]

Yeah, and he's talking about. He's talking about not only the politicians, but the media. You cannot hate the mainstream media enough. Dan Bongino used to preach that, he said, because they will always find a way to crank it up again. This is what they do there. There is blood on their hands as much as the shooter, because this is the type of stuff that they bathe themselves in. The jen Psakis, the CNNs, the MSNBC's of the world. They bathe themselves in this leftist violence because this is what they want. They know they've lost. Like we've talked about. Charlie Kirk was winning on their battlefield. They were getting blown out of the game on their field at home. He was going into their. Into their stadium and winning constantly. And they didn't like that. And, you know, you hear the phrase, you know, we may have just woken up a sleeping tiger. You have. The left has done that. I feel that, you know, feel that deeply.

[Vinny Mac]

There's a couple of examples of that that go sort of beyond, you know, what you're talking about, which is spot on. You know, when you cannot successfully debate the facts, you silence the voice. Right. That's pretty much how things work. And we talk about these. The rhetoric that they're using, but they're using other means. You know, our network suffers from this, and other conservative voices suffer from this. And that is all the boycotts, the blacklisting of advertising, the boycotts. Look at what happened to Elon Musk when he starts being effective in exposing them. They could not articulate and discuss this. They had to silence the voice. So what'd they do? They begat the advertisers to boycott his platforms. Fortunately, he was rich enough. He didn't have to worry about that. But we work for a network where our voices have been attempted to be silenced because they've tried to boycott advertisers. Same thing with our competitors that are out there. Fox newsmax, et cetera. Same thing. You know, it all sort of fits around this one giant narrative. And the Biden administration had their hands all over these types of things, things in every aspect, silencing the voices, silencing the voices however they can. And now when you can't silence them through these means, what's next? Violence?

[Rick Delgado]

Yeah.

[Vinny Mac]

And, you know, the death of a Charlie Kirk. And that's. That's just exactly where they're going with this. But they're using every tool they have in the toolbox.

[Rick Delgado]

Right.

[Vinny Mac]

And people need to be aware of that, you know, and.

[Rick Delgado]

And the media is. Is right there with them, hand holding their hand, ushering this all along.

[Vinny Mac]

That's right.

[Rick Delgado]

You know, Damon mentions this a lot. Whenever they slam President Trump and call him a Nazi, it's their attempt to dehumanize him. And somebody pointed this out today. And this is. Cut to. This is Whoopi Goldberg. What she said back well over a year ago, when President Trump at the rnc, when he was accepting his nomination for the presidency in 2024. Here's what she said. And listen to the words she Uses. Because it's exactly what Damon was talking about. Cut to.

[Vinny Mac]

For me, I have a lot of.

[Damon]

Faith in the American people, and I.

[Vinny Mac]

Don'T know very many men who want to be talked to the way that this man has been talking to men in his audience. I don't know any women, and I know his grandchild was up on the thing, and they're trying to humanize him and change your idea about who this guy is.

[Damon]

Don't fall for that Trump. You're talking about Trump.

[Rick Delgado]

Look at the anger from Predator there, because she doesn't like the fact that people are finding out this guy's a grandfather. He has lovely family, he has a granddaughter who is speaking glowingly about him.

[Frank]

Don't humanize him.

[Rick Delgado]

Don't humanize him. That's what she said.

[Announcer/Commercial Voice]

Sick.

[Rick Delgado]

It's sickening. But that's the left, and that's the media, and you can't help. You can't hate them enough.

[Damon]

No, yeah, I'm listening. I'm just. I'm trying to see if this FBI thing is going on, and I'm. And I'm trying to find. I saw a clip because you. As you guys are talking about this, I saw a clip that I had never seen before, that it was just. I. I actually couldn't believe it was real, but it was. It was a New York Times. Shockingly, a New York Times host with another, I believe. Oh, and here it is. Thankfully, I can find it quickly. Okay. Sorry. How much time? We don't even have enough time. Just listen to just a little bit of this. Move on. Well, there's one other thing. I mean, Porter is a writer for New York Times, taking a great deal.

[Vinny Mac]

Of heat for saying or implying that I wish somebody would kill Donald Trump. And that is exactly what I was implying. It was irresponsible.

[Damon]

That is what you were implying?

[Vinny Mac]

Yeah, yeah.

[Damon]

Oh, yeah, I said it.

[Vinny Mac]

And it was irresponsible of me to.

[Damon]

Say that in a public space.

[Vinny Mac]

I really shouldn't have said it here.

[Damon]

Now.

[Vinny Mac]

I already did, and so, you know.

[Damon]

I have to own it.

[Vinny Mac]

I did say it. Somebody has asked, you know, do you say that in private? And yes, I have said it often, and I have only halfway been kidding.

[Damon]

And I'm gonna say it again. Yes.

[Vinny Mac]

And it is a smaller side of me. I should not wish for another person to suffer, even if it's.

[Damon]

I mean.

[Rick Delgado]

Yeah, can't hate him enough.

[Frank]

The masses listen to this crazy.

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[Damon]

All right, 13 to the hour. Live from Studio 6B on a Thursday night, September 11th, 2025. Vinnie Mack is here. Rick Delgado, Slick Rick, Aaron and Fran holding it down as always, and of course, you, their beloved live from Studio 6B. Audience, I want to try to grab some of the sentiment I've seen in the chat, if I can find some of it. Because, like I said, what I really wanted to do when I was thinking about doing the show tonight was just, I wish we could have just talked to the audience all night and taken some calls, but the chat's the next best thing. Danielle on Facebook says, I still can't stop crying sharing Charlie clips with my husband. We have a. We have small children. Also. I'm in a denial space right now because I don't want to accept this, and I think a lot of people are in the same place. It has been hard to process. You're watching all this unfold and you still going, no, wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait. The guy who was on this network every day. Oh, that guy been in the studio. Guy who's been. We've been covering his events. Guy who's best friends with half the people on the network. That guy gone.

[Rick Delgado]

You know what I think also was very hard for people is that, you know, realizing he was only 31. If you started watching his clips back when they, you know, on social media last seven, eight years, he's kind of grown up in front of you.

[Vinny Mac]

Right.

[Rick Delgado]

You kind of have that connection of watching this guy grow up and, you know, elevate, become elevated into stature kind of from this, you know, this kid to now this young man who's. Who became this dynamo, really.

[Vinny Mac]

Yeah. They. They got to know him. They feel like they know him.

[Announcer/Commercial Voice]

Right.

[Vinny Mac]

You know, it's the Truman show in a way. Yeah.

[Rick Delgado]

There's so much of him out there that it's, you know, you do kind of feel like, hey, it's almost like if you'd walk up to. If you came across him, you'd almost feel like you already knew him if you met him for the first time.

[Vinny Mac]

Yep, exactly.

[Damon]

Put on a suit says, may the Lord bless and keep you. May he make his countenance shine upon you and be gracious to you. May he grant you his peace. Amen. You know, one of the other things I wanted to bring up and see what you guys thought while we're waiting for this, see if this press conference will help happen at all in this hour. Before we get off, Mike Cernovich, know how many of you guys follow him or know who he is, says he blames congressional Republicans for a lot of this because of their weak and ineffectiveness since they've taken control. And he said, when you look back on January 6th, in what a. In what a party and a government in control who knows how to use their power to put down their. Their opposition when they want to, you can see how effective they can be from a Department of Justice FBI point of view. And here are the Republicans, Steve Scalise, they tried to kill and others, and now this. And he says, he says he blames the weakness and the ineffectiveness of the whole Republican Party for some of this as well. What do you think about that, Vin?

[Vinny Mac]

I mean, I can't help but think that's extremely true. We have talked about this many, many times on this show, by the way. We've been talking about this since the day we started the show that we just cannot seem to get two things from the Republican Party party. One, why do they fight each other? We talked about this the other night. Why do they fight each other? They have to unify. And two, look at how the Democrats do their biz. I mean, when, when there's a talking point, they're all on the talking point. They never stray.

[Damon]

We got to. Okay. Okay. I see Cash Patel is at the podium here.

[Vinny Mac]

Let's do it.

[Commercial Voice]

Director for the Utah Department of Public.

[Damon]

Safety this evening we have FBI Director.

[Commercial Voice]

Patel, FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino, Special Charge Robert Bowles, Governor Spencer Cox, Lieutenant Governor Deidre Henderson, and Commissioner Anderson as well as.

[Damon]

I'm so sorry, Commissioner.

[Commercial Voice]

Commissioner Bo Mason as well as some local partners here present with us today.

[Damon]

Governor will kick it off.

[I]

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us here, here tonight. We appreciate the media and the partnership we have with you in helping us to get information out to the public so that we can. We can catch below the brake friend and hold him accountable. We are going to share a portion of a video that we have of the suspect as well as some new stills. Those have already been released, but we want to make sure that they get as much attention as possible so that we can get help from the public in tracking down this evil human being. So we're going to queue up the video right now, show that. I've asked Commissioner Bo Mason if he would narrate to you what is happening in this video.

[Damon]

Thank you. Governor Bo Mason, Commissioner for the Utah Department of Public Safety. If you look up to the top left, you'll see the building where the shooter was proned out in the top left corner.

[Vinny Mac]

We'll go ahead and play that video.

[Damon]

And I'll narrate as we walk through that. So here you see that the suspect ran behind that upper, upper building. He's come out on the right, moves to this far right corner. As he does, he's going to climb off the edge and then drop down to the ground. As he did that, he left some palm impressions. There's some smudges in some places. We're looking to collect DNA. There's a shoe imprint where we believe the suspect is clearly identified as wearing Converse tennis shoes. Again, we'll replay that again so you can get another view of that. Wow, this is sick.

[Announcer/Commercial Voice]

That's crazy.

[Damon]

Important to note. His black T shirt, good jump pants.

[Frank]

Like he had a little struggle.

[Damon]

There's Converse tennis shoes. Those are all identifiable items that we're looking for. In the stills that are going to follow this, you're going to see a very distinctive T shirt with an American flag and appears to have an eagle on it. There's also a baseball cap with a triangle on it and a pair of sunglasses. All distinctive. All things that we would ask the public to look for and try to identify if they know someone who has those items, who has been seen wearing those items. We're looking for all that information here. You see the suspect after dropping off the building, he moved around across this grass area around the parking lot. We're going to pan to the right after he crosses the street. This is where he moves over into the wooded area. This is the video evidence that we utilize to track his movements and to locate that firearm in that wooded area following the discovery of this evidence. You want to go to the seals. So here's the still photographs I mentioned. These have been enhanced. So these are slightly different than what we introduced earlier. Please pay close attention to the T shirt. Like I said, very distinctive with that American flag and that eagle. The hat with the triangle and the sunglasses. You'll go to the next picture, please. The backpack as well. All identifying features that we're hoping the public can help us identify and lead us to this suspect. Next picture. And again, there's a better picture of the hat with that triangle logo. And again the T shirt, blue jeans. And you get a good look at those Converse tennis shoes as well. We have pushed these out. We'll continue to push these out. And we just ask for the public's cooperation through the public. The tips of that have been coming in are what are giving us our next leads and enabling us to continue to further this investigation. We've had great cooperation from the public, and we're continuing to ask for that as we move forward. Thank you. And I'll turn it back over to Governor Cox.

[I]

Thank you so much. Commissioner Mason. I want to. I want to thank Director Patel and his team. It's great to have them on the ground with us tonight. We've had several briefings, and he's had an opportunity to walk the crime scene. We appreciate our local law enforcement here again. We have Mike Smith, who is the county sheriff here. We have all of our local chiefs of police that are here as well, all working hand in hand with the state and with the FBI as we move forward with this investigation. Now, just give you a little more. We will not be taking any questions at this time. We're giving you the latest information we have, being as transparent with everything that we have. But I do want to share a couple things that I think are important. We cannot do our job without the public's help. Right now, the public has answered our call for action. So far, we've received more than 7,000 leads and tips. I just note that the FBI hasn't received this many digital media tips from the public since the Boston Marathon bombing. This case also highlights the dedication of our law enforcement community. We have 20 federal, state, and local law enforcement partners that are working shoulder to shoulder to find the person who committed this horrific crime. With their support, We've completed nearly 200 interviews. As you're aware, as has already been reported, the FBI is offering a $100,000 reward for information leading to the identification and arrest of the person responsible for the murder of Charlie Kirk. We also continue to implore the public to support this investigation and come forward with any information. We are truly hopeful that this video and new photos will lead to even more tips. We are processing them in a cross incredible team, a state and federal team working together to process those tips. We're going out in tandem to interview any potential person of interest or suspects. But we need, again, we need as many as much help as we can possibly get. Any videos or photos that you might have, the public should be submitted to our digital media tip line, which is www.FBI.gov Utah Valley shooting, all lowercase. Again, that is FBI.gov Utah Valley shooting, All lowercase. You can also provide general tips about the shooting by calling 1-800- call FBI. That's 1-800-C-A L L FBI or at tips.FBI.gov this is. I would Just say this is not just a local matter here in Utah. We have people all over the country that are helping to bring this perpetrator to justice for Charlie Kirk and his family. I will just add as well that as was mentioned, there is a lot of forensic evidence that is being processed right now at both the state lab and federal lab on the East Coast. So we are working in tandem together. I. I would also just add a word of note for those people who are spending so much time on social media. I think Charlie said it best that when things get bad, we should put our phones down and spend a little time with our families. There is a tremendous amount of disinformation. We are tracking.

[Damon]

Our.

[I]

Our team, the state team, and I'm sure the federal team as well. What we're seeing is our adversaries want violence.

[Announcer/Commercial Voice]

Champ.

[I]

China. We have bots from Russia, China, all over the world that are trying to instill disinformation and encourage violence. I would encourage you to ignore those, to turn off those streams and spend a little more time with our families. We desperately need some Pima. We'll have more to say about that in the days and weeks to come. More than anything, we are going to catch this person. Last thing I will just say is we've been working with our attorneys, getting everything that we need affidavits ready so that we can pursue the death penalty in this case. And that will happen here in the state of Utah. Again, to the public, to those who are grieving, thank you for your prayers. I know we are feeling those prayers. I know the Kirk family is feeling those prayers as well. We pray that God will bless our nation at this very dark time. We can start healing by finding this perpetrator and holding him accountable. And we need your help to do that.

[Damon]

Thank you. Wow. Cash is just walking on. Okay, I have many questions about that. Many, many questions about what we just saw. I was asking Delgado off the air because I didn't want to talk over the stream. Do we think that they're really this far behind this kid, or you think this is just to give this kid a sense of comfort? And they're about to close the door on this because that. That, in one respect, sounds like they are really behind finding him. We need the public to do our next part of our job.

[Rick Delgado]

Right.

[Frank]

7,000 tips.

[Damon]

What? How can they be this far behind this kid?

[Rick Delgado]

They said they've gotten 7,000 tips. A lot of that is digital. Like he said, digital media. People bring cameras, people, you know, inadvertently, you might have recorded this Guy, if you have it, send it in, basically, is what he's asking, because you saw that with the. Some of the people who were just videotaping the crowd when they heard the shot. You know, you see it afterwards where somebody picks up, oh, look in the corner of this video shot, there's the guy running on the. On the roof. That's where they establish, okay, here he is. Now we go backwards from there, or now we go forward from there. So now they can track his. His whereabouts. Kind of like the Mangione kid that shot the CEO of United Healthcare.

[Damon]

So you think that was totally normal?

[Rick Delgado]

Normal?

[Frank]

I'm amazed.

[Rick Delgado]

Possibly fairly normal. I think they've got more on this guy than they want to let on. Like you said, give him a little. Little comfort. Let him. Let him feel like maybe he's in the clear for now.

[Damon]

Why is Cash Patel there?

[Frank]

Yeah, he didn't make any statement.

[Damon]

No statements, no questions.

[Frank]

And I'm confused.

[Damon]

And basically the governor of the state makes it sound like, hey, we've got some more stuff, but we're nowhere near catching this guy, and we need you guys to step up for us to do the next part of our job. That seems like. Like this has to be some kind of misdirection play to make this. If this kid's watching, make them think he's safe, and maybe they're a lot closer than we think. Obviously, it's not going to tell us everything. I do. I get that, but I don't know, Vin, what you make of that?

[Vinny Mac]

Well, at first, when all this happened, I was very concerned that here was a sniper on a roof that got away and that had an escape plan, and how are they going to catch this guy? Like, I was very concerned about that.

[Damon]

That.

[Vinny Mac]

And there, lo and behold, a day later, we have video of this guy. We see his face, we know what he looks like. There's a lot of stuff floating on social media where they might actually have a name of this guy right now. So we have a lot of information, including how we, you know, when he started running away and in what direction he went and he dropped the gun. That's how they found it. So I kind of agree with both of you guys on one side that they're probably not saying everything they know because they know a lot. I believe they know who he is. I believe they've got so many images of him and the track he took, they're probably, one, trying to make him feel comfortable, and two, he's hiding out somewhere, either with someone or not with Someone. If he's with someone, they're watching this. And I think it's just another one of those things where maybe they're closing in, but they're not positive yet. But I'm actually very, very encouraged in many ways, because when this happened, man, I felt like, wow, like there's nothing here. The guy was on the roof. They didn't have really any indication of who he was, what he was. He escaped, and everyone was thinking it was his professional hitman who had an escape plan. They got a lot on this guy. It's just a matter of time when they smoke him out. Just like those two coyotes in the Boston bomber thing. It took him a while to smoke him out, and they found him hiding in a shed somewhere. Right.

[Damon]

In a bomb.

[Vinny Mac]

It just. In a boat. In a boat, yeah.

[Rick Delgado]

Hiding in a boat, right.

[Damon]

Yeah.

[Vinny Mac]

So it took that and it took the public to help them get to that point. But they kind of knew where they are, and I think they kind of know where he is. They just don't know exactly. He's hiding somewhere.

[Damon]

Right?

[Rick Delgado]

Yeah. You know what? And you make a great point about the. The Boston bombers. Those two. The Tsarnaev brothers or something like that.

[Damon]

Yeah, exactly what it is.

[Rick Delgado]

You know, they were confronted by the police. One of them was. Was shot and run over by the police, and the other one escaped. And it took a day of. You know, and it was an. It was a guy who, you know, noticed that the. That the flap on his boat that was winterized was open.

[Vinny Mac]

Right.

[Rick Delgado]

With a ladder nearby.

[Damon]

What's interesting about the drop is he had that rifle stuffed in his pants for that drop from the roof. That was a pretty deep. That was a pretty far drop up.

[Rick Delgado]

Yeah, it was.

[Damon]

And the footage we saw of him supposedly going. Before you could see that, a very obvious. What looked like a limp, but I think it was more of a trying to keep it straight. You know, it's going down the side of your leg and up your shirt or however long it is. But how do you drop. I don't know where. Where was the rifle, obviously, they're saying was still on him, because they're saying he put it in the woods. Later, after he crossed the street, they just.

[Rick Delgado]

Well, it could be that he could have broken down the rifle and threw it in his backpack, because they said they found it wrapped up in the woods.

[Damon]

In a towel?

[Rick Delgado]

Yeah, if it's wrapped up in a towel, he may have. It may be one of those, you know, you kind of disassemble, make it a Little shorter. Put it in a backpack for concealing purposes.

[Damon]

Looked like to me he was carrying it. Really didn't look like to me like he was carrying it. And it's hard. It's as clear as that video is that they got him running off. That's pretty clear off the roof, down the side. Boom. I mean, they've got them, but I don't know. That was. I don't know where the weapon is clear to me.

[Frank]

Was that limp? That was clear, yeah.

[Rick Delgado]

And again and again they, they're just going to use video from every place along that route to track him where he went. And they'll. Well, like you said, they. They might have him pretty well cornered in an area of where they think he is. And that's why Patel is in town now, because they're about to swoop.

[Damon]

Well, that's what I'm saying. He's not there to do that. I mean, I can't imagine. I mean, they've done all of the work for him. He's going to go to the site and walk around. Okay. The cameras are going to watch him. That's all well, fine and good, but he goes to this presser, he doesn't even say anything. And they take no questions and they basically say, without you guys continuing to do your job, we can't. He's. He. I think he actually said, for us to do the next part of our job, we need you. Meaning the public. Didn't he say that? The governor?

[Rick Delgado]

I don't know if I heard that specifically.

[Damon]

I thought that's what he said, but he might have. That seems to me like a big misdirection, like let's let him think we're not as close as we are. I don't know.

[Vinny Mac]

Yeah, quite possible. And with today's technology, here's one thing I can. Can feel pretty certain of. They saw his face, they know his face. The facial recognition technology is going to match that against YouTube X, Facebook, Instagram, every social media platform out there. They're going to figure out who he is, his name, and they're going to start going to relatives and people and they're going to pull this together. And I think they're just, you know, going to smoke them out that way.

[Damon]

I don't know if it was Megyn Kelly show, but I heard somebody say that the running of the face has come up empty. Empty. That he's not on the grid whatsoever at all. Which again, kind of goes back to the. Is this somebody. Is this the foreign connection that John talked about? Last night.

[Rick Delgado]

Or is this a professional connection where.

[Damon]

I don't remember where I heard that. Don't quote me on that. But I did hear it today, and I think it was from someone. I don't know if it was Mark. Maybe it was Mark Halperin. Could have swore someone said the facial recognition so far has come up blank. Like he's. This guy's not on the ground grid at all.

[Rick Delgado]

Kind of like a ghost.

[Vinny Mac]

Wow.

[Damon]

So I don't. I don't. Yeah. All right, well, there you go. So there's your very quick update. Doesn't sound like they're going to do another one tonight.

[Rick Delgado]

Took longer.

[Vinny Mac]

I'm gonna wake up tomorrow.

[Damon]

I am not gonna. I would be. I don't know. Doesn't really matter what I think, but in some respects, I'm gonna be surprised if we get on the air tomorrow night and this guy's not caught. I just have that feeling. That whole thing gave me the feeling of we are at. We are on the. We are at the doorstep. But we're going to make this guy think he's comfortable.

[Rick Delgado]

Yeah.

[Damon]

I don't know. That's just the way it made me feel because I can't believe they're this far behind them.

[Rick Delgado]

Especially when you have the FBI director and deputy director fly in and not for that thing.

[Damon]

No way.

[Rick Delgado]

And then he just follows them out and it's almost like they're like, all right, we're. We're going.

[Frank]

We're on the move.

[Rick Delgado]

Yeah, we're on the move.

[Frank]

That's exactly what it looks.

[Rick Delgado]

Yeah, that's what that looks like.

[Damon]

All right, Aaron, what are we doing? We're just going to return everybody to regular programming now. All right. Thanks for hanging. We did a little over, but we wanted to stay with that to the end, obviously. I want to thank all the guys. Obviously, it's been a tough week. Our thoughts and prayers are obviously with the Kirk family, his wife, those two kids today. Unexplainable what they're going through. Yeah. We want to thank you to Live from Studio 6B, audience Most of all. We'll be back tomorrow night in studio 8 o'. Clock. We'll see what the update is, then we'll wrap up the week right here. Live from Studio 6B. We'll see you then.

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