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Damon
This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.
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Vinnie Mac
If your TV sounds funny in the
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Damon
evening, you're watching live from Studio 6B
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Vinnie Mac
on Real America's Voice.
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Damon
All right. It is live from Studio 6B. Kind of Rick and Rick are off tonight because we weren't sure we were going to have a show here because obviously the Real America's Voice did coverage of what could have been, who knows what tonight. Listening to John Salma in the last hour, I was actually a little surprised. But Vinnie Mac is here. He's going to go through hour two with me. He just listened to the special coverage we did on rav. I was honored to join that hour with Grant Stitchfield, Steve Gruber and others hosted by bo Did a great job on what's a. I guess a historic night in many ways. Could have been people. Well, I mean, I don't know, to run the gamut of what people were talking about, what the night could have been, it's just mind boggling what we saw today. But first of all, Vinnie Mac, how are you?
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Vinnie Mac
I'm doing well, thank you very much. Been here all day. I think I slept here last night. So I'm putting my time in.
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Damon
Okay, very good.
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Vinnie Mac
Y.
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Damon
Well, you watched that hour and obviously we talked a couple times during the day. I was on with Bannon this afternoon and I don't get much right about anything, honestly. And I know. I know the least about all of this as any of these guys you're watching on here. But I said to Steve earlier today when the whole Pakistani thing came up and I was reading some of the messaging that I saw from Caroline Levitt and others about the fact that the President was aware of it. The President was. Others were reading it and she put out some tweet, I should go pull it up. But this doesn't really matter at this point, that the discussions were very heated or very. She made it sound like, and I don't know, for just some reason, I said, it's. That sounds like an off ramp. I knew there had to be an off ramp today. The idea that he was going to turn the place into glass, it's just so mind bogglingly stupid. And that sounded like the most reasonable off ramp that he was going to have today. That at some point tonight, before 8 o', clock, he could say something to the effect. I think I tweeted this yesterday, something to the effect of, well, these people are much more reasonable. We've had very good discussions. Steve Woodkoff has told me, xyz, whatever it was going to be There was going to be some off ramp for him to say, you know, we're going to pause this because we think there's a deal here to be made. And I said to Steve, if you package that with the Strait of Hormuz opening, is that something that we think we could possibly see? Well, two hours later, that's exactly what we saw. So, Vin, you haven't had a chance to talk on a lot of this, so I'll give you the floor. What. What do you think about all of it?
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Vinnie Mac
Yeah, I mean, a lot to unpack there. But first off, I agree with you, and I agreed with what you said to Bannon. I. I felt all along, especially as Trump dialed up the rhetoric, that this was not gonna end with a major sort of Armageddon type of attack on Iran. I felt this was gonna end in some way, shape or form with where we landed here. The key being the Strait of Hormuz. I think that is the one big enchilada that had to be agreed to, along with probably a few other things that we don't know about, but that particular piece had to be agreed. What I didn't like over the past couple of days that I was seeing in the media and the news and everybody talking about, even friends of mine talking, oh, you know, Trump, the language Trump is using, you know, is really strong. And I don't know if I appreciate him saying that. Even supporters of Trump, you know, were sort of upset about that and challenged him on that. And I thought about it, and there were some times, you know, I thought, wow, maybe he went pretty far here, but he's dealing with the savages and of the world. These people only respond to this type of savagery. And I think he's made a strategic decision throughout all of this. And I'm not sure who said that on the panel. Someone said it on the panel as you guys were talking earlier, that he just stooped into their language and gave them information of how they communicate. So they know, look, I can go low like this. You want to go low like this, I can go that low. And I think that rhetoric is super important because no president I've ever seen in our history has ever done anything like that when it's clear. I mean, Saddam Hussein used to say the craziest stuff, and everyone in the Middle east just seems to come out with these outlandish statements that they make. And Trump basically hit him piece by piece, conversation by conversation, point by point. He went as low as they did, and I think that's effective. And I think a lot of that had to do with this result today. The language, of course, we have the military might. The other thing that made me nervous today, and I was very unsettling, was seeing all those people, you know, going to the power plants. And I just could not imagine what we were going to do with all of these civilians, even though they're probably followers of this regime or they were forced to go.
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Damon
When talk about war crimes, how's that not a war crime, what they were doing with those people? People were worried about war crimes today. I didn't hear anybody talking about that.
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Vinnie Mac
Yeah, serious war crime. And I just, at that moment I started thinking to myself, there's not a chance anything's gonna happen tonight. Number one, we just could not bomb these places with those civilians there. The fallout of that would have fallen all on our shoulders. Not on the shoulders of Iranian leadership who put all those people there in harm's way, but on our shoulders. You can only imagine the left wing media and all the Democrats jumping on that, of course, saying, oh, Trump is just this irresponsible leader. Meanwhile, their own leadership put their people right there, knowing full well that they would die. So when I saw that, I thought, okay, I don't see us really going in there. I think Trump is dialing up hardcore so he can get to this result. And he got to that result. So, you know, that's been my assessment. And I do also agree with what Gruber was saying. This gives us more sway, you know, over China overall, gives us more sway globally and economically as we forge through getting this thing resolved, which I believe is going to get resolved shortly. I gave it six weeks, so we got another full week. To my own personal timetable prediction, maybe I'll be off a week or two, but I don't think this goes past the end of April.
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Damon
I mean, again, 2000. I said this earlier to Ben in 2016, I think it was Selena Zito, maybe when she was on CNN or somewhere, she said, famously, take Trump seriously, but not literally. And when Trump came into office, even in 2016, I mean, he's talked about the Iranian regime and what he would do to them for longer than even that. For going back to. We've seen videos of him back in the 80s 90s talking about what he would do. He said he was going to put an end to this. I don't know how people thought he was going to put an end to this without seemingly going mental. It's similar to what he did with the little fat boy in North Korea. Maybe, you know, maybe a little different language at the time. But you remember the. The tweets, everybody's. Some of the ultimatums he did in 2020 after Solomon got killed. Remember, he said he would go after. He would go after 52 targets, specifically using that number 52 for the number of hostages I think Iran took back in 19 in the 70s. And then Roubini or Rahubi, whoever the guy was, came back and remember, they shot down the plane and then they called Trump and told them what they were going to do as far as firing at the. At the US Base. They told him in advance because they had to try to save face. Remember all of that stuff, that was all because of the way Trump acted. The whole. All of North Korea, that was all because of the way he. Man, my button's bigger than yours and it works. All of that language we heard, and what's North Korea done now with this whole rant thing? They've kind of backed away from him.
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Vinnie Mac
They haven't said a word.
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Damon
They haven't said a word.
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Vinnie Mac
It's been quiet.
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Damon
I mean, the idea that Trump was gonna settle this without, quote, unquote, looking like he was going mental. I mean, I don't even understand what people thought. I mean, some of the things I saw today, it's like, check yourself into a rubber room, man. Like, chill out. Not every red line is an end of the world. It doesn't have to be a catastrophe. None of us have any experience dealing with what he has been dealing with, negotiating with a terrorist regime, and the balance between pressure, consequences, all of that, that factors into this and what they knew. I mean, none of us have any idea. But this idea that war crimes, 25th amendment, he was just going to go. I mean, I just could never get there.
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Vinnie Mac
Yeah, I mean, that's just. At the end of the day, we're seeing a big part of our country wanting us to fail. Simple as that. They want the president to fail. They want the country to fail so they can get back in power. That's where a lot of this comes from. The thing that Trump has going for him always is he might dial up the rhetoric to a point where we might say, whoa, that's a little too far, but he's dealing with crazy people. It's a street fight as far as Iran's concerned. And he has shown he will act. He has shown, especially in this, this particular administration. He's shown it in the past, but he has made it clear with his actions. All right, I'll do it. You Know, every time he comes out with this bombastic stuff, he's, you know, we extra. We pulled a guy out of his house in Venezuela with a special operations team and new weapons that we have. We pulled this guy out. We went in and got him and pulled him out like that. You just don't say Trump's bluffing. Everyone was talking about, oh, he's bluffing. He has to be bluffing. I don't think he bluffs. I think what he does is he raised the ante so high that he forces the situation to conclude. And that's either gonna be, okay, I'm gonna come in here and do this, or you're gonna come back to me with something a little more reasonable. And he wasn't asking a lot. You know, he's asking to let the ships go through the Strait of Hormuz. Right. Which provides income to Iran, by the way, and provides stability in the region. So it wasn't like he was asking for this ridiculous thing, cease fire and all that. So, yeah, he might have talked crazy, but he's not bluffing.
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Damon
I mean, it seems he proved it. Yeah, I kind of read it a different way. Kind of with the call craziness. It seemed to me that I never, obviously never thought he was going to. I mean, people saying he's a nuclear weapon. I mean, just crazy. I did think that and I was actually, to be honest with you, I didn't even get to where John Solomon laid out tonight that there was this big, huge, never seen before strength of power campaign that was going to go. I was actually a little surprised to even hear that. I thought all of this bluster could lead to strikes tonight. But I thought the bluster was maybe being used and using the media and their tds to, to keep. Keep Iran if they were going to make a mistake and maybe expose or force to. To move military assets or other assets, assets in a panic that something was going to happen, whether they, you know, other places where they're making missiles that maybe we haven't hit yet or something like that. I was thinking he was using this as kind of a move that if they expose themselves that they. We could see strikes tonight on locations that maybe Iran had claimed were more like civilian places, but actually were being used for dual purposely. And that all of this bluster was for them to expose where those places in fact were, were and that we could see strikes tonight on that. And this was some play like that. I could have seen that. But just indiscriminately bombing the hell out of out of power plants, bridges, things that the civilians really then get hurt. I, I just could never get there. And I'd love to talk to John and see exactly what he's talking about, what the targets were in this campaign that he said he was ready to pull the. Pull the pull, you know, hit the button on.
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Vinnie Mac
Yeah. First of all, that nuclear thing, that was just ridiculous. I didn't buy that for a second. I understand where you're coming from. And I also didn't completely accept the fact that he was going to destroy their entire infrastructure, hence making it almost ridiculous to rebuild that country, because I think part of his goal is to have that country intact so the people can rise up and live a normal life with new leadership. So I thought that was a little bit far fetched at the end of the day. But I do think part of his strategy with Israel is not as much going after their bridges and their power plants and all, but going just directly after the leaders and the leaders of the army, the leaders of the government. Everybody just decapitating the leaders at every chance. That's what they're doing. To me, that's the smartest, tactical thing, not attacking that infrastructure and trying to decimate that, the way he was talking. But I guess he had to get their attention somehow, and clearly he did. And they know he doesn't bluff. So there you go.
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Damon
All right, let's take a break. We're happy to be here for hour two. Weren't sure we were going to be here. Vinny Mack is here. We'll take you through hour two. We'll talk more about this. We'll get your thoughts. People have a lot of strong thoughts on what's happened here today. So we'll get into what you're saying in the chat. Live from Studio 6B. We're back right after
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Sam
Sam.
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Damon
All right, live from Studio 6B. 17 past the hour. So it's an interesting night. Obviously on socials as everybody, everybody tries to position their, their, their, you know, their feelings, whether their feelings are hurt or not hurt or I told you so or I didn't tell you so or Trump's a loser. This is a big loss. This is a big win. And people trying to somehow position this as a Trump loss and that the Iran, Iranians come out. I just, I saw this and I just kind of chuckled David Harsani, who I think maybe mostly writes over at the Federalist. He may write some other places, too, but that's mainly where I read them. He says, yeah, other than losing their entire Navy Air Force, a few strata of political leadership, their top military minds, over a thousand senior IRGC and BASIL commanders, their air defense radar sites, numerous scientists, ballistic missile stockpiles and most launchers, drone missiles and missile factories, proxies, etc. Iran certainly has the upper hand tonight. And I just think that encapsulates exactly perfectly what you're dealing with on online tonight from people. Yeah, it's just like, get a grip. What are you talking about?
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Vinnie Mac
Every general that's talked about this has said pretty clearly, like, we are just annihilating them. Like it's not even. Forget about, not even close. Like it's not just no contest. And then you put on, you know, CNN and you see someone else talking about how the Iranians are winning and, and they've just gone too far this time. This is about our country and the safety of our country and a war and the safety of our military. And CNN and the liberal media, they keep talking about the fact that we're not doing well there when it's just the opposite. And I have a few minions, you probably haven't been tracking me on Facebook recently, but I have a few minions out there that are liberal, that are saying the same things. They repeat literally word for word what they see on CNN and MSLSD and all these other liberal places. And I was watching Trump's press conference yesterday. Oh, man, I thought he was just on fire. First off, I'm watching his press conference and I'm thinking, gee, remember all those years that Biden would have these press conferences and just nobody would get questions really, or is like, you know, he used a teleprompter practically for the press conferences. Trump's going off the cuff and then he gets to, you know, the New York Times and the others that he just completely lambast. And I just sit back sometimes and I think, yeah, yeah, that's what I want to see. Like, let them have it. They're lying to everybody. Someone has to speak out. And the President just takes, he pulls no punches. Everything is just from the heart and out, you know, and he says it. Sometimes he says something, you know, you'd be like, oh boy, a little cringeworthy there. But I just love it when he does that. And especially in the context of this war. Like, he's not taken, he's not taking no for an answer. He's not taking any crap. He is just dishing it right back. Did you see the press conference?
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Damon
I did every second of it. We streamed it, we talked about it last night in the Show. I just find it amusing how quickly people forget that Trump, at his core, is a peacemaker. At heart, he is a peacemaker. That's what he wants. How many times, even when he came back into office and he started talking about Ukraine, what did he always say? I just want to see kids stop dying. Yeah, he's a peacemaker at heart. He doesn't want to be doing this. He's not looking to. I mean, people today with the war crimes, and he's going to do this and that to the civilians. And I said, okay, well, if he does that, then we have an argument. Then we have a real discussion to have. But where is this coming from? Nothing in this man's heart, in his. In his anything, has told us that he's gone off the deep end and he's just going to all of a sudden, just indiscriminately just start throwing missiles into wherever. Like, what are we talking about?
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Vinnie Mac
Yeah, he's also argued against, you know, the wars in general, and I think that's where a lot of magas got upset. Oh, no. He argued and we voted for no prolonged wars. This isn't a prolonged wars. I've said this war. I've said this many times. This is a reset. Iran went too far. Every president in my lifetime has talked about the fact that Iran can't have nukes. I think you've heard this on countless newscasts across the board. Can't have them, can't have them. Can't have them. Can't have. He finally did something about it.
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Damon
Why?
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Vinnie Mac
Cuz they were really close. Do we. And I say this to on Facebook, those of you who follow me there, see my battles with my liberal friends, and I'm like, okay, so what are you upset about? The fact that he went in and prevented what could have been a nuclear holocaust in our country and in Israel and in Western Europe. Like, were you willing to take that chance that Iran was telling the truth about anything? Iran's been lying to us since 1979 about everything. Every negotiation, every move. And we saw that firsthand when Hamas made that just despicable attack on Israel and then the war that followed, that they just lie constantly. So now we're supposed to believe that they don't have a nuke. They do have a nuke. If our intelligence said they have a nuke, I believe them. And I say, let's go in, take it out, and do it quickly. But people are arguing as if this is like a country that has a great reputation of being honorable and telling the Truth and all of these types of things, which is a bunch of nonsense.
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Damon
I mean, when it comes to war crimes, when it comes to the idea of whether he was going to bomb civilian energy or whatever, it's not like it hasn't been done before. War crimes, some would call it a strategic move. Bill Clinton did it.
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Sam
Yeah.
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Damon
Did anyone? And all of the reporters you heard today in the last couple days talking about this tweet about civilian energy, power plants, all of this stuff. Bill Clinton deliberately bombed Serbia's civilian power plant and infrastructure for 78 straight days in 1999. Do people remember that? I've heard no real discussion about it. When they talked about Trump and they were warning about what he's going to do, I'm reminded as well. Barack Obama administration systematically destroyed ISIS oil infrastructure that powered entire regions and provided electricity and fuel for millions of civilians with no serious accusations of war crimes from the press. Two Democrat presidents, were they accused of war crimes or were they cheered enthusiastically by the media through both of those situations? I mean, Clinton bombed 78 straight days, cities plunging cities into darkness. In Serbia, widespread civilian hardships. This happens all the time in war. Civilian outlets are sometimes ripple effects of these kind of things. But all you heard the last 24 hours was Tron, oh, my God. It's just such a double standard.
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Vinnie Mac
I didn't see the outrage when the Iranian leadership. And I'm looking at a quote I had for one of the stories we were talking about. The. The quote says, I invite all young people, athletes, artists, students and university students and their professors to go to our locations and stand around them when the United States is going to bomb them, inviting them there as human shields into harm's way. And just think about the whole idea of human shields. Hamas used it all the time. As a matter of fact, they tortured the Palestinian people by putting those people in harm's way, which they knew hiding out in hospitals and schools and places that they knew were going to have casualties. This is what should be talked about, is their callous disregard for human life of their own people. The callous disregard for the human life of their own people, which they completely disregard and they put in harm's way. Nobody's talking about that.
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Damon
But Trump talked about it yesterday. This is the thing I noticed in the press conference when he said the people there get upset if they don't hear bombs. He said that yesterday. People are like, what the hell is he talking about? That's what he's talking about. He's talking about the people who none of us have any idea what it would be like to know that at any point your daughter can be shot and killed from a sniper on rooftops because she doesn't have her head covered? But what these people live like this is what Trump was talking about in the press conference yesterday.
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Vinnie Mac
Yeah, and that's a great point because. But they know if you're a citizen of a country and being repressed or threatened or scared or just want to change and you know someone's trying to make that change happen and they're not bombing, they want to see you going after them. So I thought he made a great point because that's what we're hearing from the real people on the ground. Keep coming.
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Damon
All right, 26 past the hour. I got a great video to show you.
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Sam
Oh.
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Damon
From a very young president. Well, wasn't president at the time. I don't even know if he was governor at the time.
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Sam
Time,
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Damon
I think encapsulates the moment we're in and maybe what President Trump has been thinking about the last 24, 48 hours. I'll play that for you when we get back. Vinnie Mac and I, on a Tuesday, live from Studio 6B. Hour two. We're back right after this,
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Sam
Sam.
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Damon
All right, 30 minutes past the hour. Live from Studio 6B. Glad you're on. Real America's Voice all across the country. Hour two, hour one. Rav had a great special on what was going on tonight, obviously with Iran, President Trump, all the big decisions, obviously the ceasefire. We think two weeks, hopefully it holds. Hopefully it's, there's some questions. Jack Posobic brought up some ideas that there still may be missiles flying towards Israel. Does Israel have the ability to defend itself here tonight? So there are definitely some questions. Obviously nobody trusts the, the dealmakers on their other side. So there's still obviously a lot of questions what this leads to. Does this give them two weeks for China to help them revamp anything? So I'm sure the president and his team are going to be on all of this again. One of the things that I just find somewhat comical is, you know, before any of this started, all if you ever questioned anything Trump did, all of these same people who would just say, well, how dare you just now, all of a sudden they're all like, wow, it's like, it's like flip flopped world where we're all defending the president, have total confidence in him and everybody else is like, now he's, I don't know. It's great. It's somewhat crazy. But. So here's a video I came across and I, and, and I just wonder if Trump has been channeling this or. I'm sure he hasn't been, but it's just coincidence that this is a young president, not president at the time, not even, I don't think, governor at the time, but a young Ronald Reagan. Maybe this was in the, in the run up for governor of California, talking about Nikita Khrushchev and the United States, and I just thought this was pretty good. Take a, take a, listen to a young Ronald Reagan here.
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Sam
Our freedom from the threat of the bomb by committing an immorality so great as saying to a billion human beings now enslaved behind the Iron Curtain, give up your dreams of freedom because to save our own skins, we're willing to make a deal with your slave masters. Alexander Hamilton said, a nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one. Now, let's set the record straight. There's no argument over the choice between peace and war. But there's only one guaranteed way you can have peace, and you can have it in the next second. Surrender. Admittedly, there's a risk in any course we follow other than this. But every lesson of history tells us that the greater risk lies in appeasement. And this is the specter our well meaning liberal friends refuse to face that their policy of accommodation is appeasement. And it gives no choice between peace and war, only between fight or surrender. If we continue to accommodate, continue to back and retreat, eventually we have to face the final demand, the ultimatum. And what then? When Nikita Khrushchev has told his people, he knows what our answer will be. He has told them that we are retreating under the pressure of the Cold War. And someday, when the time comes to deliver the final ultimatum, our surrender will be voluntary. Because by that time, we will have been weakened from within, spiritually, morally and economically. He believes this because from our side, he's heard voices pleading for peace at any price or better rev than death. Or as one commentator put it, he'd rather live on his own knees than die on his feet. And therein lies the road to war. Because those voices don't speak for the rest of us. You and I know and do not believe that life is so dear and peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery. If nothing in life is worth dying for, when did this begin? Just in the face of this enemy? Or should Moses have told the children of Israel to live in slavery under the Pharaohs? Should Christ have refused the cross? Should the patriots at Concord bridge have thrown down their guns and refused to fire the shot heard round the world. The martyrs of history were not fools. And our honored dead, who gave their lives to stop the advance of the Nazis, didn't die in vain. Where, then, is the road to peace? It's a simple answer. After all, you and I have the courage to say to our enemies, there is a price we will not pay. There is a point beyond which they must not advance. This is the meaning in the phrase of Barry Goldwater, peace through strength. Winston Churchill said, the destiny of man is not measured by material computations. When great forces around the move in the world, we learn we're spirits, not animals. And he said, there's something going on in time and space and beyond time and space, which, whether we like it or not, spells duty. You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We'll preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth. Or we'll sentence them to take the last step into a thousand years of darkness.
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Damon
Yeah.
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Vinnie Mac
Ronald Reagan. Love Ronald Reagan. Well, there you go again, Ronald Reagan impersonation.
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Damon
I mean, there's a lot. There's a lot in there right now that you could directly apply to what's. What's happened the last 48 hours. And I'm sure some of the things that President Trump has. Has been taking on thinking just as a human, just as a person at night.
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Vinnie Mac
Yeah, yeah, I think there's a lot there. First of all, Reagan has such a way of presenting information. You know, it kind of reminded me of some of those clips from Miracle on Ice with Herb Brooks. Just sort of the inspirational way in which he was speaking without the music. You know, you can feel that that's why Reagan was such a great president. He said things that we can all relate to that, but he said them in such a way that you were, you know, that's leadership. You were motivated to hear and listen and follow him. You know, there's very few presidents and leaders that can capture what he had there.
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Damon
So now the new thing we're gonna see all maybe for two weeks is going to be this whole idea. I'll just put this one up because it just happens to be in front of me and you're gonna see a bunch of this. Okay, here we go. Put it up, Aaron. Let's be perfectly clear. If Trump agrees to these 10 points, Iran won. They leveraged the Strait of Hormuz and they won. Iran says the US Agreed to, one, commitment to non aggression, two, continuation of Iran's control over the Strait of Hormuz. Three, acceptance of uranium enrichment. Four, lifting all of all primary sanctions. Five, lifting of all secondary sanctions. Six, termination of all UN Security Council resolutions. Seven, termination of all Board of Governors resolutions. Eight, payment of compensation to Iran, like reparations. Nine, withdrawal of US combat forces from the region. Ten, cessation of war on all fronts, including against Hezbollah and Lebanon. Yeah, okay. Anybody think Trump's just going to go, when do they. Okay, yeah, we agree. We win, you lose, and he's going to agree to this. Can we stop with this for two weeks? So we have to read things like this for two weeks. You think that maybe they're a little farther ahead in this? Maybe they're thinking about it a different way. You know, if I had time to ask, who was just on that, Mr. Faddis there, who was an expert in the region.
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Vinnie Mac
Yeah.
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Damon
You know, when you look at. When you look at this regime in Iran, militarily completely decimated, battered. The continued elimination of their leaders, the absolute destruction of the remaining economic lifelines that they use to not only wage war, but repress the entire country. Maybe the administration thinks, ceasefire, no ceasefire, it doesn't really matter because the regime is not going to make it. They're not going to survive. Once the. If the Internet comes back, they open up their economy, it all crashes. Maybe they're thinking about this in a way that none of us know that they're thinking about it. Maybe they have information that we don't know. I'm not saying that's the case, but I'm certainly don't expect the President of the United States to just go, oh, Those are the 10 things they want. Okay, yeah, well, yeah, okay, let's let people determine who won.
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Vinnie Mac
I mean, come on, there's no chance of that.
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Damon
Two weeks of this crap we're gonna listen to now from these people.
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Vinnie Mac
This is what our enemies count on, though, Damon. What our enemies count on is that there are people in this country, powerful people, powerful media, powerful pontificators on networks and writing stories and newspapers and so on, that are gonna contradict the President no matter what and try and weaken our position. They. This is why it's so hard for us to actually win things like this, because we don't stick together. And I'm not talking about the MAGA folks out there, because we have stuck together. I am proud to be a maga, and I am proud to have stuck by the President, no matter what. And I know there's a lot of people like that out there, but I will say this. The rest of our country is all about fracturing. That. It's all about fracturing and having the president lose and get defeated. And our enemies know that. So if you're one of our enemies, what do you do? You play right into that. Like that nonsensical comment that you just read. You play right into that and you hope that at some point, power changes or pressure comes another way, or these lies start resonating with the people of the country. And by the way, have those lies resonated with people of this country? Yeah. Yeah, it has. There was a time when we were protesting that gays weren't getting a fair shot and women were repressed and this whole MeToo movement. And then you see what goes on in Iran with those same folks, but no one says a word about it. Like, they don't really care about it. They throw in gay people off roofs, and then you get. It's a death sentence. And if you're a woman, you don't have your hair a certain way, you could be killed. They'd kill you. They hang you or do whatever the hell else they do to make your life brutally end. So this is what they prey on. They prey on these factions in this country that have a lot of power that will divide us, and they're probably behind some of that division. I do have something I want to talk about, though, in this whole conflict. You remember back in the Ukraine, Russia war, where when Trump first got in office, he was contemplating sending some weapons over there. They wanted. They needed. They needed Patriot rockets to shoot down some of the. The attacks that the Russians were doing. They need. They needed some other things. And it was a big controversy, and Russia drew a line in the sand. And, you know, you do that, and that's going to, you know, we're going to send nukes, and, and everybody was up in arms, and we can't send them anything. Well, what's happening right now, the Russians and the Chinese are sending weapons into Iran. Likely one of those weapons is what might have shot down that plane. Where we saved those pilots. They're doing that. No problem. No problem. Now, I don't think that's a no problem with the administration, but we all need to watch this and keep our eyes open with this, because it's hypocritical. If we wanted to help Ukraine and send them whatever the heck they needed to finish off Russia, I think we just got a license to do that, because that's what's happening on the ground in Iran. Our leaders are telling us this. They're not publicizing it too much. I guess they're trying to keep things somewhat peaceful with Russia, but that's exactly what they're doing. They're sending things in and I'm sure they're airlifting things in. We're probably watching it happen. But it just got me thinking about that moment when Trump was thinking about and considering sending some of the Patriot missiles and some of these weapons into Ukraine to help them fend off some of these attacks by Russia and how crazy people got. And here we are, the Russians are doing exactly that.
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Damon
I want to remind you about one part of the President's tweet that people seem to just overlook. And that was this line quote, maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen tonight. And you wonder what the President is talking about there. Most people brush that part off. I didn't hear really many people talk about it. What Trump is talking about, are there elements inside the country in the leadership, are there regime insiders who maybe think that this thing is beyond, maybe it's time, Is there a coup? Did they think that this is beyond help? And then I see our friend Zineb Raboa tonight who says this and it leads exactly into that kind of statement. Time to keep an eye on what is happening inside Iran. Now, if the Starlink satellites get activated and the Internet comes back, this will be a totally different story. What does Trump know? Why put that. That's a very specific line after I'm going to, I'm blowing everything up. Allah this. And then he says maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen tonight. Yeah, well, that's pretty specific. I don't think that's just a line that he was like, you know, hoping for the, like a, you know, like a nice day, weather wise. That seems pretty specific. Like he know, he knows something.
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Vinnie Mac
He must, I mean, there's got to be chatter going on in there about moves and descent. That's a good pickup.
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Damon
All right, live from Studio 6P. We'll wrap up a quick hour too when we get back right after this.
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Sam
Sam.
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Damon
All right, 13 to the hour. Live from Studio 6B. Last segment of the show was happy to join in the first hour. RAV's coverage of this, his really historic night on President Trump and Iran. And what was going to happen at 8 o' clock as the, as the President's deadline approached. We did not turn the entire country into glass. We did not Nuke the, the 90 million civilians and we did not create war crimes. We have supposedly a ceasefire. And Trump had an off ramp to Take. After blustering about again, Trump wants 100. He maniacally claims he wants a thousand, and then he settles for 200 and he finds an off ramp here. Now, I mean, you can argue that that's not maybe a great strategy in this kind of situation. I think you could argue that because he put himself into a pretty tough situation. But John Solomon says he was ready to strike like we hadn't seen before tonight at 8 o', clock, in fact, that he was ready to do that. What the targets are, we don't know. Maybe we'll never know. I was a little surprised to even hear that because I just didn't think it was on the table. Again, targeted strikes of, like I said, some places, maybe that they just discovered by Iran panicking on what was gonna happen. I could see something like that, but I did not see just an indiscriminatory, just blowing up of the whole place. And I don't know that's what John's meant. But he said President Trump was ready to go with a campaign like we hadn't seen before. He even said he was gonna explore some new technologies.
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Vinnie Mac
I think that's.
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Damon
That we hadn't seen used before.
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Vinnie Mac
Yeah, yeah. It's an interesting part of, I think, Trump's strategy. And we use that in Venezuela, by the way. And we used that apparently with some new CIA technology that detected the heartbeat of our airmen that was involved.
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Damon
Well, Sam Fadd said that in the Hour one. He said, if that's been used, if that's actually been used, that's groundbreaking. Because he said, I'm aware of the technology, but I've never been aware of it actually used on the battlefield.
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Vinnie Mac
And I think that's part of what Trump's entire strategy is built around, is a lot of these technologies that we have not used he's gonna be using. And that might give him a little bounce in his step, frankly, to know if he uses them, that major things are gonna happen. But it goes back to my original point on the rhetoric and everything. He does what he says. I mean, I think we all know that we've known Trump now since 2015, when he came down that escalator and started talking about things. He does what he says, and particularly with the military, he. He does what he says. And if he said he was going to do this, I just do not think there was a bluff there at all. I think there was a hope that I'm going to drive these guys so crazy and so fearful that this is really going to happen. That they do come to the table. I think he really hoped for that solution, but I think he was going to do something and do something major. You don't talk like that, by the way, unless you're actually prepared to do something. If he had not, if they didn't get a settlement here and he had to do something at 8 o', clock, I don't think he would have done those targeted attacks that you talk about. He, I don't think he would have had any choice but to do some major stuff because he did box himself into a corner. But I think he's prepared to do it. That's the bottom line.
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Damon
Well, John Solomon as much said so. So Mark Penn, who was a former advisor to President Clinton and Hillary Clinton, by the way, I was reminded of the Hillary Clinton video 2008 saying, if I was president, I want Iran to know that I'd bomb him.
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Vinnie Mac
Yeah, there you go.
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Damon
So again, people just don't like this because it's Trump, but if it was her, they'd be up, jumping up and down, cheering. But Mark Penn says to assuming the ceasefire is honored on all sides, it is good news, as it means that the new regime in Iran is likely to pull back and agree to a peace far different from the old one. Trump again pulls off the impossible by creating fear in the enemy, so much so that they cave. His strong language has a purpose to knock some sense into the new leaders of Iran, and it was built on the new reality that he created. If you were sitting in Iran, you would have lost virtually all of the leadership you knew and bombs were landing non stop and you could be facing a drone or a missile pretty much at any time. And the President was promising more hell to come. You bet. It was time for the Iranian leadership to blink. The other choice had no possibility of success. Many are disappointed tonight that he did not unleash a fatal blow. But he has put this on a tight timeline. And whoever is running Iran now must have a different perspective from the old leadership. Rather than create quagmires or provide empty threats, the President is engineering change through a careful balance of force and soft power that so far avoids casualties in civil war vacuums. He is moving the US's pieces forward and Iran is moving theirs backwards. How far back is what we will see in the next two weeks? And I think that's a great point. I think all of that is fair.
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Vinnie Mac
It's fair and it's what we've been talking about here all along. I mean, go to the art of the deal. I Think you have to go no further than to read that book. I read that book when I was young and I have to say many of the things in that book stuck with me. And many of the things you see that Trump's doing today is all part of that, including the rhetoric that we talked about, including many of the points that you just read. He's got a very specific way of working. It's worked for him throughout his career and throughout his presidency, clearly. And we're seeing it in motion. It's just that the political elites, the infrastructure here, especially the left and even the rhinos and all them, they don't understand this. They don't get this. They don't think like this because they're not practical people who solve problems every day, like a CEO does. CEOs just think differently. It's just about solve the problem, move it forward, solve the problem, move it forward. How do I get better? How do I get bigger? How do I get to accomplish the things I want to accomplish? I mean, he's wired 247 that way.
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Damon
Quite impressive to the point of, is what I said last segment about we're gonna have to live two weeks with all this nonsense I'm on. I can't believe he agreed to this. Hans. Mon. Monkey. Monkey, Monkey. I'm probably butchering his last name.
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Vinnie Mac
Yeah. Well done.
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Damon
Yeah, thank you. He says people keep hallucinating this about if Trump agrees to these 10 points that Iran wins. He says people keep hallucinating this, that this 10 point plan when first off, people have no idea what was actually agreed to. And second, it doesn't even matter because one side has all of the leverage. If Trump doesn't like what Iran does, the bombings restart in 2 milliseconds. This isn't that complicated. And I think that's right. So as you see this fury of Hair on Fire streaming for two weeks on how Chicken and Taco and all of this nonsense, Iran won, Trump this, Trump that. It's just blustery nonsense.
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Vinnie Mac
Yeah, yeah.
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Damon
None of the people screaming know anything. They're the same people who told you Trump was dead this weekend. They're the same people who told you he was going to nuke the place tonight. Now they're the same people are going to scream that he lost and then he chickened out. I mean, it's just, it just check your common sense at the door when dealing with most of social media over the next days.
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Vinnie Mac
Well, the social media is definitely one thing, but the social, social media is influenced by many in the media and that's the problem. Many in the media are the ones barking out these ridiculous conclusions and claims, and most every one of them have never run anything, had never been responsible for building anything, for leading people, all of these types of things. You know, a couple of things I just love about Trump and what he does. One, it's this bombastic way of speaking. Sometimes you need to do that. But he is a leader. And I mention this a lot of times when I talk about Trump and I see leadership skills coming out of him left and right because you see how he interacts with people. Look at the Easter egg thing yesterday. It was funny and it was kind of amusing, but it was leadership. He actually goes in, he starts talking to the kids about the auto pen. I saw you guys ran some of those clips. But he has such charm and leadership to him at the same time. He can be bombastic and to the point and aggressive and even overly aggressive to achieve a certain goal. He just exudes incredible CEO and leadership skills, and it's something we've not seen since Ronald Reagan.
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Damon
Kids, let me sign your hat. You can go sell it on ebay tonight for 25,000.
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Vinnie Mac
Beautiful, beautiful stuff. I could not stop laughing at that whole thing.
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Damon
All right, as always, we salute our military, active and active, police, firefighters, first responder. God bless the President of the United States and everything he's dealing with. We pray for him and his family, of course. Vinnie Mack, thanks for hanging for hour two.
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Vinnie Mac
You bet.
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Damon
Aaron and Frank, great job. Want to thank everybody at Real America's Voice. As, as always, Steve Bannon and everybody having me on today. It was a lot of fun. Most of all, thank you to live from Studio 6B. Audience we'll see you tomorrow night, Wednesday night, 8pm we're back right here. Live from Studio 6B,
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Sam
Sam.