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Look, if you just have theology and don't have action with this, then your theology is dead. Your faith is dead. Y' all with me. So the question is, am I an image bearer? Is my dream aligned with what God's dream is for me today? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Can't wait to take away all the things confronting me. Fail.
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Welcome to Paula Today. I am so excited about the word of the Lord. Remember, God's Word is your answer. And as we get in the word.
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You'Re going to see how you have.
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A very specific assignment, purpose and calling during this time. In fact, just like Esther, I believe you've been raised up for such a time as this. You're a societal transformer. You're a cultural person that advances the kingdom of God. What do I mean, you see, we are not to be relegated to the four walls of the church, but you.
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Are to be the light of the world, the salt of the earth.
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You're not to hide your light and put it under a bushel. It's to be displayed so that all men can see and glorify God in you. Well, how does that happen in your workplace? At the PTA meeting, on the school board, at the park, at the softball game? It happens in the grocery store, all over in the boardroom. And you go, well, Paula, make it more specific. I will. As we get into the word. Now, let's hear the word of the Lord.
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I want to talk to you about being the workmanship of God and how you specifically felt fit in the church. Now, remember, church Naos. I can never pronounce all the Greek and Hebrew words. Right. Okay. Means not only physical building, but also the church that you are the church. Right. So we've talked about both aspects over months and months and months. And today I want to go back, and I'm going to only take a small portion from Psalm 83, verse 12, where we really said, who's led us? Who has said, let us take to ourselves the houses of God into possession? So we've dealt with that very strong. The strong man is not necessarily the devil. The strong man is the one with the influence. So a pastor can be a strong man of a house. A father can be the strong man of a house, says the one who has the influence. And it says that you have to bind the strong man. And we talked about that. And then Jesus goes that he that is not with me is against me. And he's real clear about it. You're either with me or against me. He that gather, not scattered. And we didn't finish on the scattering part, which I'll get to, because it comes from a word. And there's three reasons that people scatter. Disobedience. There's three different reasons, which maybe I'll get into that, but it goes into a word that is skeptoma. So when there is scattering, it causes skeptic. When there is skeptoma, it brings doubt. Doubt always cancels faith. So what makes you move in your walk with God is what faith. The just shall live by faith. So fear and faith both take work. They do. They both take work. They just produce different outcomes. All right, so we walk by faith. And so we understand that. So it said, who said, let us take to ourselves the houses of God into possession? And so the houses means pastures, pleasant places, and the habitations. Now that's important because a church should be different than any other building. It just. It should, because God does dwell in his house, but he also dwells in his house, okay? He dwells in you. So we're going to focus on how you fit into it and why. The enemy wants to say who has taken possession. Somebody's taken possession. What does that mean? To occupy by driving out previous tenants to possess in their place, to rob them of their inheritance so that they will come to poverty. So we're going to examine the influence today of the house of God. So let me just start out.
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I believe in you.
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You are a world changer and a history maker, all right? You are chosen to bring forth change. And you go, how do you say that so confidently? Because we recognize that we're in an era of massive transformation. I mean, just look outside of the church. Just look at. In our lifetime. Boy, when I was a kid, we'd go outside, play till it was dark, write, do whatever and stuff. Totally different age. I mean, I look at Asher and Nick. Asher knows how to work a computer better than me, all right? They've got Kindles and I don't know what all they have. I have a phone that I'm still trying to figure out and get it updated, all right? And I'm just like, look how fast technology has changed everything just in our lifetime. How many of you grew up in church or had some kind of form of church? Look how much church has changed over. You know, like I said, we used to put the little lyrics up on the projector. Remember that? You'd put it on the machine, they'd project up on the wall and you'd sing your.
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All right, the rest of you, who you had your.
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You know, you had your red hymn, page 92. Just a little talk with Jesus. All right? So everything has changed rapidly. So we recognize if you believe you're a person of purpose when. Which means that you carry an intention by God, you're not an accident, you're not a coincidence. That you carry intention by God. That purpose is also parenthetical. Well, what do you mean by that, Paula? That you had to be sent in, Jane. Sent into time at a specific time. You didn't just show up accidentally. Your mom and dad had to come together to bring you into the earth. You had the perfect DNA. I'll give you scripture that even backs us today. Psalm 139 is one of the best of that. That really shows. So is Jeremiah 1:5. There's so many other scriptures we can go through Ephesians that show that you were planned in the mind of God before you were ever released into earth. So you're not an accident. You're not just showing up here, you're sent here. Life is like a vapor with the dash between two dates. The dates are not the most important thing. It's what you do with that dash that's your purpose. How effective were you in fulfilling what you were sent to do? So you're chosen, I'll just tell you, to bring change. You're chosen to be a carrier of the glory of God. You're chosen to be an image bearer for God. So the question to ask you personally, because this all has to do with the church and I want you to understand my interpretation, which I believe is very well, theologically backed of philosophically pastoring and carrying forth what I carry forth. How are you bearing the image of God within the sphere of influence that he's given you? Question. I'm asking you, how are you bearing the image of God? Not just when you come in here and worship, this is the safest place. It's easy to prophesy in here. It's easy to pray in here, it's easy to worship in here. It's safe here. I mean, if you got up and had a word of the Lord and said pastor Paul, like you see, elder often come up and give the word of the Lord and you come in, he just, it's so anointed, he's so accurate. And if you came and said pastor Paul, I feel like I have the word of the Lord. You came up and gave the word of the Lord and you know it was good and you walked a little bit in the flesh. I'd pull you to the side and I'd go, you know what, it was great until you got to that part. It went a little off in the flesh. All right, But I'm going to go, that's okay. Because that doesn't mean we're not in the Old Testament. You're not going to get stoned, nobody's going to kill you. It means that you're growing in your gifting and this is a safe place to grow in your gifting.
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My whole life has been being an image bearer for God. Whether it was, it doesn't. I'm not an image bearer here, just in this house. It's in fact sometimes whether it's in a grocery store, whether it's at a bank, whether it's on an airplane, whether it's in a prison. So what I'm asking you right now is, are you bearing the image of God within your sphere of influence that he's given you? And is your dream for your life as big as God's dream for you? Or have you shortchanged yourself in favor of being comfortable being familiar or taking the step safe road? Because I'm telling you, if you have done that, then you'll never really fulfill being the church. Because there's nothing comfortable and nothing safe and nothing that always feels good to your flesh about being a Christian or saint or being a child of God. In fact, the more that you grow and the more that God reveals himself, the more uncomfortable you're going to be. How I know a lot of women in here have had children before. And when you have children, when you first get pregnant, I'm pregnant. And then about week two or four, you start getting nauseated, right? And you're throwing up all the time. You end up gaining maybe 100 pounds like I did. Can you imagine? I gained 102 pounds. And I was 90 something pounds when I got pregnant. But I hated being sick, so I ate English muffins with peanut butter and jelly all the time. Then wondered why I had a child that was almost £10 and something pretty much cracked my. I wondered, okay? And so here I am just. I hated that phase. And then the second trimester wasn't so bad. But then the third, I was so swollen, my feet were bigger than my. I had cankles, I was bigger than elephant legs. I mean, and it was so uncomfortable. And the closer I got to giving birth, the more uncomfortable it was, right? Every woman know what I'm talking about. So if you're pregnant with purpose and you're pregnant with destiny, it's not always going to be comfortable, it's not always going to be safe. It's not always going to be appealing to your flesh. So many Christians fall into two categories, and I'm laying a foundation to get you somewhere today. And that's that they're either usually thinkers or they're doers. They're usually one or the other. When I'm going to try to lay out and prove to you a case that you should be a thinker and a doer. And what do I mean? Thinkers often get hung up on the elaborate teachings with very little application. They delight in developing these theological definitions and these convoluted paradigms for our behavior. And so there's so many think tanks that come up with this theology that's really not pragmatic or practical for where most people are living. And so we have all this theology and you can be full of knowledge and never be effective. You can know the entire Bible and miss out on the entire Bible. On the other hand, there's a lot of doers and doers that take the word like, well, your whole religion's in vain if you don't do this. Or you know, if the whole purpose of God is. And they sometimes become a one trick pony or even use the word of God to create their doing as activist leaders who want to make a difference in practical ways. And I'm not questioning motives practical ways in their families and their communities, in their city and even their nations. However, what I've noticed is they often fall prey to violation of scriptural principles and an eagerness for a cause. So you've heard me come against some organizations pretty strong. That doesn't mean I don't believe in movements, but I don't stand with the organization. So you can get close, caught up. Like there are certain things like you can get caught up in going and I don't want to get into it all today but saying, okay, there's this movement, okay, but there's also an organization that started the movement. I can't believe in a movement for the better of lifting up a people in society. But I am totally against that organization because scripturally it is the antithesis of what God has to do.
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So this is important because the desire of God for us is to be a thinker and to be a doer, to be both a purist and not to lose the integrity of who shall ascend unto the holy hill of the Lord? Only he who has clean hands and a pure heart. And, and no one knows our heart but God. But at the same time to be a doer. And so let's look at James chapter 2, verse 30 or verse 14 through 25. What good is it, my brother and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? King James says works. Can such faith save them? Now here's the theological side. Okay, so what good is it if you claim to have faith but you don't have works or you don't have deeds, can such faith save them? That's the theological side, right? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. That's the activist side, that's the doing side. So what if I always told you about myself, that I am sent into this earth primarily for two reasons. To bring spiritual truths that transform, which means to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ and to also take care of the poor and needy. Now, my heart has been heaviest for children and women because of my own personal experience. But I do these two things and I don't separate them and go, I only do this and there's been opportunity to only do this side or I only do this and there's been opportunity, which means that it frustrates most people because they often want to box you in. Never let anybody box you in. You be who God uniquely created you to be. And I'm gonna show you how all this fits into the church. Cause the church is made up. The bride is made up of many members. So you're gonna see how all this comes back to the local church, because I'm gonna give you a sentence too early, but the church, okay, here's always been my philosophy and here's the word of God. The church is the epicenter of all society. That's why I say the only legal entity in the earth that is authorized by God to bring forth true transformation, whether in a person's life or a political system or an organization, is the blood bought church of Jesus Christ. So the church should always be the epicenter. It always was. That's why Jesus went in. Think about this. Jesus went in and what did he do? He said, you've turned my house of prayer into a den of thieves. You've turned the church into something that it was never supposed to be. And what did he do? He threw over the market tables. What are market tables? They were doing banking. Was that wrong to do banking? Because see, we have a western concept of church. No, because when you went in, why did Paul tell. I know I'm getting a little off script here, but why did Paul tell women. And you've got to be able to start study the Bible in context. He says, put a covering on your head. Does that mean that all of us that don't have a covering were wrong scripturally? No, because he was specifically dealing with Corinth, which was quite a church. All right? That's why we need to go to Greece. Anyway, it was quite a church because you'll understand all their different gods, you'll understand like all the different philosophies which the ten main philosophers came out of the centers. And so when you understand that because they were temple prostitutes. And so temple prostitutes would shave their head. And so when the Christians were going into the temple, the reason that Paul said cover your head is so we can distinguish you from the temple prostitute. That tells you how bad that church was in condition in the first place, which you already know. All right, so there's a lot when you can't just take one scripture out of context and go, well, if you don't wear a covering, okay, then. Then you're not really a Christian. You've got to understand the Bible in its full context and how to study it. Are you with me? So what I'm telling you was we understand something about the temple. What did it have? It had business going on, right? All society and all life happened at the temple. So it became the epicenter. So let's keep going. Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, go in peace, keep warm and well fed, but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself is not accompanied by action, is dead. But someone will say, you have faith, I have deeds. So he says, you show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds. You believe there is one God. Good. Even the demons believe that and shudder. So, see, he's making the theological argument because they're saying, we live by faith. Here's the theology. And Paul is coming back and basically what he's saying here, excuse me, James is coming back and he's saying, okay, you are making a theological case to live by faith. It's right. It's absolutely correct. But I'm telling you, if you don't apply that faith, then your theology is dead. He's saying, I'm telling you here by the authority and the Holy Spirit enough to canonize and put it in Scripture, that he's saying, you show me your faith without deeds and I will show you my faith by deeds. You believe that there's one God. Good. Even the demons believe that. Even the demons know theology. They know that he said, you foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless? Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? You see that his faith and his actions were working together. You see that his theology and his actions were working together. And his faith was made complete by what he did, and the scripture was fulfilled. That says, Abraham believed God and it was credited to him as righteousness, and he was called God's friend. You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone. In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction as the body without the spirit is dead. So faith without deeds is dead. So he's saying if you, you can have a physical body, but if you're not spiritually alive, you're dead. If you're not born again, you're dead. That's the theology part. Okay, so to carry out the will of God in this earth, I need a physical body. I have a soul. But, but the most important part is my spirit. But then he goes on and he says, okay, look, if you just have theology and don't have action with this, then your theology is dead. Your faith is dead. Y' all with me. So the question is, am I an image bearer? Is my dream aligned with what God's dream is for me?
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God has a plan for you and often we're not aligned with this plan because we don't have relationship with him. I don't know how people make it without a real relationship. You know, life can be hard, it can be tough. But with God, his burden is easy. His yoke is light. So in other words, God carries the burden for you. Would you love to live a different life? What about eternity? Do you know where you're going? Is it heaven? And that dreadful place hell, which is.
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A very real place.
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Doesn't have to be. Let's pray. This prayer for the Bible declares, if you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and if you receive him as such, you'll be saved. Try this with me. Pray this with me. Say, father God, I come to you in the name of Jesus. Forgive me for all of my sin. I receive Jesus Christ as my Lord and my Savior. Devil, let go of my life. I'm done with you. I receive Jesus Christ. Amen. If you prayed that prayer, it's not the last step, but it is the first step. Go to Paulawhite.org, our brand new website. There's a free digital download for you. What is salvation? What are the building blocks of faith? What are our beliefs? Teach on the Trinity, on the Holy Spirit, on so many things. I teach on salvation. So let's connect here and do life together. Send me your prayer request and your praise report. I love you and I know God has great things for you.
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Episode Date: October 19, 2025
Host: Paula White
This episode of "Real America’s Voice" features Pastor Paula White in a passionate message about faith in action, Christian purpose, and the role of believers as agents of transformation in society. Drawing inspiration from biblical figures and her own journey, Paula White explores the intersection of faith and works, church as a societal epicenter, and the call to be image bearers of God beyond church walls. The episode is infused with relatable anecdotes, scriptural insight, and a strong call to combine theological reflection with concrete action.
(02:00–03:46; 14:00–18:47; 18:47–26:05)
Central Message:
Paula White emphasizes the necessity of coupling faith (theology) with tangible action (works). She challenges listeners not to settle for "dead theology" but to interact with society as active agents of transformation.
"If you just have theology and don't have action with this, then your theology is dead. Your faith is dead."
— Paula White [02:00; repeated at 24:58]
Relevant Scripture:
Practical Application:
(03:46–07:41; 14:00–18:38; 28:17–28:48)
You Are Sent for a Purpose:
Drawing on biblical examples (Esther, Jeremiah), Paula assures listeners that everyone is born with divine intent, not by accident.
"Life is like a vapor with the dash between two dates. The dates are not the most important thing. It's what you do with that dash that's your purpose."
— Paula White [07:19]
"You're chosen to be a carrier of the glory of God. You're chosen to be an image bearer for God."
— Paula White [07:33]
Sphere of Influence:
Being an "image bearer" is not just for church or religious settings, but must extend into everyday life:
Personal Challenge:
Paula asks, "How are you bearing the image of God within the sphere of influence that He's given you?" [09:58, 14:04]
She encourages setting dreams as large as God's dream and resisting comfort zones.
(06:31–07:44; 18:47–26:05)
The Church as Epicenter:
“The only legal entity in the earth that is authorized by God to bring forth true transformation, whether in a person's life or a political system or an organization, is the blood-bought church of Jesus Christ.”
— Paula White [20:32]
Biblical Context:
Paula references how Jesus cleansed the temple, Paul's instructions concerning cultural customs, and the local church's transformative power.
Modern Church's Role:
(07:44–10:51; 14:00–18:38)
Paula uses stories from her childhood, technology evolution, and even her pregnancy to illustrate discomfort in the pursuit of purpose.
Light-hearted reference:
"Can you imagine? I gained 102 pounds [while pregnant]. And I was 90 something pounds when I got pregnant. ... I had cankles, I was bigger than elephant legs."
— Paula White [14:49]
She connects personal challenges and discomfort to growth in faith and the fulfillment of destiny.
(14:00–18:38)
Thinkers:
Often preoccupied with theology, may lack practical impact.
Doers:
Eager to act, but sometimes without deep theological roots or may get swept into unscriptural activist trends.
Balanced Call:
Paula urges believers to integrate both:
“The desire of God for us is to be a thinker and to be a doer, to be both a purist and not to lose the integrity of who shall ascend unto the holy hill of the Lord? Only he who has clean hands and a pure heart. ... But at the same time to be a doer.”
— Paula White [18:47]
(10:51–13:06; 26:05–26:57; 26:57–28:17)
Overview of Paula White Ministries’ Work:
"Our massive food and household outreaches Distributing truckloads of food weekly totaling over 29 million pounds of food in the last four years and millions of dollars in new household furniture to those in need."
— Ministry Partner Announcer [11:10]
Call for Support:
Paula repeatedly invites listeners to partner financially and prayerfully, emphasizing the supernatural and practical impact of giving.
(28:17–29:54)
Paula ends her message by encouraging listeners to enter or deepen their relationship with God, offering a prayer for salvation and resources for new believers.
She speaks on the assurance and peace that comes from a life aligned with God’s purpose.
"If you believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and if you receive him as such, you'll be saved."
— Paula White Ministry Host [28:48]
| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |-----------|-------|---------| | 02:00 | "If you just have theology and don't have action with this, then your theology is dead. Your faith is dead." | Paula White | | 07:19 | "Life is like a vapor with the dash between two dates. The dates are not the most important thing. It's what you do with that dash that's your purpose." | Paula White | | 20:32 | “The only legal entity in the earth that is authorized by God to bring forth true transformation... is the blood-bought church of Jesus Christ." | Paula White | | 18:47 | “The desire of God for us is to be a thinker and to be a doer, to be both a purist and not to lose the integrity…” | Paula White | | 24:58 | "If you just have theology and don't have action with this, then your theology is dead. Your faith is dead." [Reiterated] | Paula White | | 14:49 | “Can you imagine? I gained 102 pounds [while pregnant]. And I was 90 something pounds when I got pregnant... I had cankles, I was bigger than elephant legs.” | Paula White |
The episode is marked by Paula’s impassioned teaching, delivering encouragement and challenge in an accessible, conversational manner—infused with humor, warmth, and urgency (especially in calls to action and faith).
This episode serves as both an exhortation and a practical guide for believers to marry thought and action, become dynamic image bearers of God, and reclaim the church’s rightful place as a hub for holistic community transformation. Paula White’s examples, scriptural teaching, and forthright challenges make this episode a compelling call to purposeful living, grounded faith, and real-world impact.