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REDISTRICTING WAR HEAT UP, DNI TULSI GABBARD LAUNCHES PROBE | WAR ROOM WITH STEVE BANNON AM EDITION
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This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big L Maga media? I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War room, here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. Okay, welcome back in the war room. Thursday 7th May, year of our Lord 2026. Can you check, I'm gonna do some producing here of my producer. Check with McCabe. He says the media is lining up, but I need to know if actually Lula is on the campus, on the property. You say I want to make sure people don't miss because we are going to cut to the oval for this bilat. As you know, I want to hear from Lula as little as possible. So we're probably going. President Trump is talking. But anyway, that. That is all in motion right now because the president is going to, I'm sure, be asked questions about what's happening on this. The one pager with. The one pager with the Persians. How does that make you sound? Allfamilypharmacy.com I want to make sure you don't miss what Michael Kunster just offered because the company's unbelievable. AllFamilyPharmacy.com promo code. It's Bannon 35. Bannon 35. You get 35% off of everything you order today, so make sure you get into the process. AllFamilyPharmacy.com, promo code, Bannon35. Use that today, you get this massive, what, over one third off, plus a company that's built upon breaking the stranglehold of Big Pharma and the Big Pharma distribution network on your medical freedom. This is Make America Healthy Again personified. Manifested. Let's say that. Speaking of that, Tony Lyons. I'm trying to get Tony for this afternoon about what's happening down in Louisiana with Cassidy, who is the really become the arch enemy of the Maha movement, and Bobby Kennedy in the Senate. So we'll try to get to Tony Day update on Make America healthy again. But AllFamilyPharmacy.com promo code Bannon35 is really manifest. The best of the Maha movement right there. Get your medical freedom. Start with all family pharmacy. Who's working on your site? 35% off. Bannon 35. Do it today. Tyler O', Neill, epic defeat. Garland Favorito from Georgia's gonna. Been fighting this thing. A patriot, been fighting for six years. Massive defeat on this evidentiary really court case. They had. They had Abby Lowell, Norm Ison, and I think Mark Elias was part of it too. That's a triumvirate of demons, right? Does this make you better? Since you're my Southern Poverty Law center, you're kind of the guy that's been following this for years, but so many of these guys are hammering them every day. Does it make you feel better? You have a Justice Department that put their first team on the situation in Georgia. Is it starting to make you feel better that Blanche and these guys are very much focused on what the problems are with things like Southern Poverty, Laura center, or to steal the election in Georgia that they're sending the first team to finally go fight and win some of these cases? Sir.
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Yeah, I think this is tremendous news. And like you noted, you know, these are the worst of the worst actors on the left. Marc Elias, you know, the guys who were pushing for the scheme to weaken election integrity ahead of the 2020 election, and then, you know, pushed and immediately gaslit Americans in saying this was a perfect. There's nothing to see here. I think we all know that they screwed with the rules ahead of time in 2020. We still have answers that need to be given on all of this stuff. And I think it's important that we have a muscular doj. And by the way, I mean, the main thing that has been encouraging me in recent months, I mean, this indictment against the Southern Poverty Law center is humongous. And this is like a stake in the heart to the left's cancel culture agend agenda. And you love to see the DOJ going on offense here. I also think the case against the city's church invaders, the fact that Harmeet Dhillon is willing to put her foot to the pavement there, I mean, that was a horrible case. I'm flabbergasted, to be honest, that no local prosecutor seemed willing to jump on that because you had people who. Who invaded a church in the middle of service, refused to leave when they were asked to leave, took over, chanted, who shut this down? We shut this down. I mean, this is an open and shut case of so many different violations. And yet you had the top law enforcement official in Minnesota, Keith Ellison, saying, there's nothing to see here. This is a fair protest. Everything is fine. And so Harmeet Dhillon comes out and says, no, these are federal laws that were violated here when you invaded this church service and took it over for your partisan agenda. And, you know, I'm a believer. I oppose the invasion of any church or religious service if it's ongoing. You know, that is a violation of the First Amendment. And I think it is very important that we have a DOJ that stands for justice here. And the idea of that nobody would be charged for taking over a church in the middle of service. It just boggles my mind.
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No, you make a great point that Blanche and these guys are going after the big ones. As evident, you're hearing they're going to the heart of the stolen election of 2020. They're going to the Southern Poverty Law center, which is the railhead of so much of this hate. They're taking on the situation with the church. And remember, in the church, they went out of their way in that service when they broke in to terrorize not just women and children, but mothers with children, they went out of their way to terrorize and traumatize those children. So these demons are finally, the Justice Department's on it. Something else we've noticed now that Scott Besson and I think Susie Wilde just put out a tweet talking about safety of AI. Another huge issue that's got to be addressed is artificial intelligence. And we're one that say, hey, we gotta shut down the Chinese Communist Party. I hope that's on the agenda in Beijing this week, that there's no way that we should let them be competitive with American technology, American capital, American education, American training. But there's something even deeper here, as we warn about. Anthropic is putting out the Mythos review, these programs that are now, and they're warning us again today on Axios about this issue called recursive learning, where the program itself is righting itself. And Axios says today this is coming so much sooner than people think. You've been going in about, hey, Anthropic, maybe they may be good about trying to warn about those types of things, but they're also the most woke. But it's really endemic to the entire system. You're going to have a generation of people trained and you have even the first lady was talking about having AI in the schools in this Plato system. And I think there's just so much here people don't understand on the education system and what we're dealing with, how it's already embedded to have not just anti maga, but really anti American and anti Western values in this. I know you got a long thread up on social media. Can you walk me through it?
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Yeah. So this really knocked me out of my chair when I saw this, because Anthropic, and I don't know everything about anthropic. I know there was a big controversy with the Department of War and Anthropic using Claude. But when you look at just on their website, they're touting that they're fighting terrorism and they're fighting extremism. And the partners that they're working with on that effort are organizations that have cited the Southern Poverty Law center, that have staff at the Southern Poverty Law center that are tied in. And I keep going back to the Southern Poverty Law Center. I wrote a book about it mainly because I was shocked to see the undue influence that this organization has. And when I wrote the book in 2020.
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But hang on, but hang on, but hang on, but hang on, but hang on. The power of your book, it was built like that. They understood the reason it's sitting on $800 million in cash. The people on the left are not stupid. The Southern Poverty Law center was built as a railhead that it then could take its content, right? This content that others, the conservative movement, that you're a hater, you're a racist, you can't be acceptable. It's the reason that. So you see, down in Georgia, so many of the establishment country club Republicans are absolutely terrified of something like the Southern Poverty Law center saying, you're not a good person, you're a racist, you're a nationalist, you're an extremist. The construct of the Southern Poverty Law center was perfectly designed by the left to do exactly the job it was supposed to do. And it did it damn well. The fact that it's un American, it's radical, it hates what we stand for, is. Is the heart of the problem. But this thing, and that's what your book shows. This just Morris D's. It started as something different than it became. And it became a railhead for all these billionaires to put money. Look, dude, it's got $800 million in care. 7:40 in cash. Those people were putting in because they looked at this as the gift that would keep on giving for many, many decades ahead, Correct?
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Oh, yes, absolutely. And one of. There are so many different aspects with the Southern Poverty Law Center. But the focus here is on how they're impacting AI. And so the splc, as you mentioned, is a trailhead for the left's demonization of conservatives. And what you see the SPLC do so well is they compare mainstream conservative ideas to the Ku Klux Klan and to white supremacy. And they make no bones about this. Like, they have a. They have a hate map that puts Trump turning Point, usa Moms for Liberty, the Family Research Council, Alliance Defending Freedom, on the map with clan chapters. And it says that this map reveals the infrastructure upholding white supremacy in the United States. Now, the key thing here is the SPLC is not the only organization that does this. They're the centerpiece one. They're the one that started everything. But right now there are many. There are offshoots like the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, which was founded by two former SPLC employees, one of whom, by the way, Heidi Baric was the leader of the SPLC's hate map for years. And it seems she left the SPLC because she thought the SPLC wasn't radical enough in demonizing conservatives. And that's a criticism that you're hearing from other former SPLC staff. And so she leads this organization. Anthropic is citing this organization, this global project against hate and extremism arguably goes further than the SPLC. They have a big. They follow everything Project 2025, and they demonize every sort of conservative agenda from this White House. And then they have a list of everybody who is spouting what they call the great replacement theory, which they all push as white supremacist ev. You know, every, every name in the book. And never mind the fact that, oh, by the way, in the last four years, Biden did open the border. And it really seems as though the left is trying to replace the Americans here. And I don't think this has anything necessarily to do with race. Race is a side issue here. The main thing is they're importing an underclass that's going to perpetually vote for them. And this is a serious problem. And anybody who raises it is a white supremacist in gpah's book. And you see that on their website, they have a list of every Republican politician whoever pushed the great replacement narrative. And on there you have people like Lindsey Graham as well as people like Ted Cruz. And so, you know, you have people who are actually fighting and then you have some people who are a little bit more wishy washy. But if you are Anywhere in the Republican Party in the conservative movement, they're gonna find a way to demonize you. And this is one of the people who's advising Anthropic. And there are three others I should get into.
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Go ahead and give them to me on this side of the break. We'll hold you to right after the break, but give me the other three.
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Yeah, the other three are American universities Peril, which is the Polarization and Extremism Research Lab. And then Middlebury Colleges, Universities center on Combating Terrorism. And then the big tech companies propped up this other thing called gcft, which is a crazy acronym, but they are citing the splc. So like all of these things are leftist biased against. And many of them have directly attacked
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Moms for Liberty in particular and Charlie Kirk maybe. Here's what do. What's your Twitter feed? I want people now to go get your writings in your Twitter feed. I think you got an 11 tweet trail on this. Where do people go right now? Tyler.
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Yeah, you go to Tyler, to the number two o'.
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Neill.
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And where they go to get you. Where they go get your Daily Signal.
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Yep, Daily Signal.com is where you can
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find my Writing Spectacular. And get the book. Go to Amazon and get the book. The books. And you're updating. The book will be out in August. Correct.
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Sooner than that. Making Hate Pay. The Corruption of the Southern Poverty Law Center. This update is with the publishers now. We're going to see exactly when but trying to get it updated before the middle of the summer.
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War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. Like I said, we're going to show the first quarter. Probably not tonight. I think. No, I think it is tonight that Philip Patrick's going to be on Turning Lions. Also about Maha, what's happening on Louisiana in this race with Cassidy. Philip Patrick's going to be in the first quarter. Numbers are out from central banks and we're having another record quarter of central banks purchasing. Just like Tony. Just like Philip went to Rio de Janeiro for the Rio reset about the bricks and you saw how intense the bricks are going to do. And also all these side deals they were going to cut around trade which came to pass in the worst of the worst. Lula, the head of the BRICS nations, I hope in the Oval, they're having some discussion with him about trying to bust up the US Dollar as a prime reserve currency because Ludo is one of the culprits, one of the great Marxists in the world and a ally of the Chinese Communist Party. I'm sure part of this meeting is the the preview of what's going to happen in Beijing because he's one of Beijing's partners and have tried to basically bring Beijing into South America. Long story short, ended the Dollar empire go to birchgold.com promo code Bannon or I guess birchgold.com Bannon it's not even a promo code. Just go right there. Get ended the Dollar Empire Eight free installments. Done them over six years. There is a book out that you can get through Birchgold, but we're on backorder. So many people requested. But all eight installments are free, including the new eighth installment. So talk to Philip Patrick and the team day birchgold.com now more than ever, you need the pattern recognition of why gold has been a hedge against times of financial turbulence, particularly vis a vis fiat currency. And Lula, the culprit is trying to organize the brics nations like he did down in the Rio reset to basically destroy the US Dollar. Let's be blunt about it. Anyway, a lot going on the oval. We'll cut there momentarily. And also in in the greater world, the Persian Gulf. And Philip Patrick will be here tonight as is Tony Lance will be here on Maha Garland Favorito. It was a monumental victory yesterday. Number one, they sent the biggest guns they could send. Norm Ice and Abby Lowell. I think Marco Lias has also had his own deal there. But those are the three that triumvirate are the worst of the worst. They were beaten in this evidentiary hearing. How big a deal is this about this whole situation of Fulton county, sir?
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Well, it's huge, Steve, and it wasn't even a fair fight. They never had a chance. I've got a gloat a little bit, Steve. You remember about two months ago on the show when this all started, I said that they don't have a case because they can't meet the four part test to get the ballots back. And it's called the Ritchie factors. And so we follow this case really closely because we had the preservation order on the ballots that preserved them all the way until January 28th when the FBI made the raid. So now they can proceed with their investigation. And they are. They've given Fulton County a copy of the ballots back and they've got a variety of areas of probable cause that are rock solid despite what the other side might say. But the bottom line was yesterday was that the judge found exactly what I had predicted on your show a couple of months ago, that they cannot meet any one of these four factors in order to get the ballots back from the FBI. And the four factors are real quickly, the callous disregard. Did the FBI show a callous disregard in the search warrant? Of course they didn't, because they have five probable probable cause areas. They got a magistrate court to issue a search warrant, got it refined a third time, didn't break into the warehouse, didn't harm anyone, and they even put contrary information into their affidavit to make sure that the judge understood both sides of the issue.
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Garland, this is what's so important that the. The Justice Department sent their team down, their top team. You had Stanley Woodward, who was overseeing this. But the bottom line was the guys at Fulton county, they're arguing something. They've already admitted. As soon as they get their hands on that evidence, they're going to destroy it, correct?
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Well, they certainly are probably going to destroy it or at least try to prevent people from getting it, just like we have. Steve. You know, we have been trying to get those ballots for five years, and they said that they needed them tothey needed it back to get the fulfill open records request. Well, I have a state election board complaint against them now because they failed to fulfill my open records request in the last year or two for the same ballots. They told me that they didn't have the same ballots that they now claim they gave to the FBI. So it's an irony of a case. It just. It's never made any sense. And I'm surprised that either Abby Lowell or Mark Elias would even get involved in it in the first place, because they never really.
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Look, they'll throw it. They'll throw a Hail Mary. You never know how it's going to turn out. Plus, they slow things down. What should we be looking for next? You guys have spent six years of your life in this, almost bankrupted you. They want to send you all to prison. Put us, make us smart. What's coming next?
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Indictments. I think indictments are coming. We have the real evidence. You know, then once it's the. I'm sure the FBI can and the DOJ can basically have a very strong case against multiple people based on what happened in 2020. So I would say that you're saying.
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And you believe that's what. That's what this criminal grand jury is about right now. And you're saying the next step, you're seeing them going to the criminal grand jury, starting with the lower level people, but you think that's where the indictment is going to come from?
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Yes, I do. I do think that it might Take a little bit of time because they've got. It's a massive amount of evidence. But there's quite a few situations and different individuals I think that have a lot of explaining to do and they're
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going to roll the junior people on, the senior people going all. I think it goes all the way to Kemp in Ruffensburg and all of them. Garland, where do people go to your social media and your website to follow this? It's of extreme interest to the war and posse.
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Voterga.org Steve, thank you. It is. And it's X isoterga. That's a good place to find us as well as voterga.org and we are all volunteer information organization. Excuse me, we don't take salaries. We've survived for five years on volunteer work.
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You guys are amazing. Grand jury is meeting right now. Criminal grand jury calling them in over the last couple of days. And of course, a huge victory in the evidentiary hearing or really evidentiary trial to make sure the evidence didn't go back to the bad guys. Mallory Staples, head of the director of the Freedom Caucus of Georgia, joins us. Ma', am, I'm totally confused now. A billionaire out of nowhere has come into this race. And the more I look at it, people are saying, oh, this guy's maga. This guy says he's maga. He's taking ads, he's maga. I just look at the videos and I hear what he says. It seems like anti maga. Can you help me out here, ma'? Am?
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Yes, I sure can. Thanks for having me on. You know, this election is vital for voters to be informed. Facts matter. The facts matter. And I really feel like there's a battle for the minds of the voters going on in Georgia because we're up against 50 plus million doll of campaigning, inundating voters with commercials and mailers and things. But those aren't the facts. And so what the facts are about Rick Jackson are that he literally has funded beyond what most people can imagine. Pretty much the anti maga, anti freedom syndicate from start to finish. And you know, we often hear follow the money, follow the money. And we definitely need to do that. Rick Jackson is no exception. He has supported Cheney, Bush, Kemp, Haley, Duncan. I mean, I think, I mean, correct me someone, but he may be the largest donor for Jeff Duncan, who's our former lieutenant governor, who is now running as governor in the primary for as a Democrat. And he has pumped his funds into these candidates that are opposite what most of the conservative base, you know, votes for, is committed to ideals that we hold to and you know, we talk about maga and I need everybody to remember, like MAGA is based on the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. That's what President Trump breathed life into. He kind of brought that back as us getting back to our roots. And so Rick Jackson funds all the people that are big corporate money. You know, he claims to be an outsider, but yet he's gaming the system like, like the establishment does, just dropping a bunch of money on it and hoping people don't look at the facts and see what's going on. So we are fortunate that we do have a candidate that is MAGA that we have benefited from greatly. In the state of Georgia, Lieutenant Governor Burt Jones has presided over the most conservative Senate chamber in the state's history. We do have options other than a bunch of money and somebody stepping into the game to kind of clear the field. I mean, Burt championed the Riley Gaines Act. He has put money back in voters pockets, you know, with cutting through bureaucracy with his red tape rollback, which just robs taxpayers and voters of their funds. He's protected our freedoms. I mean, he wielded unprecedented procedural power to see that Fani Willis was forced to testify. I mean, when silence ruled from most of the members of the General assembly and the executive branc here in Georgia, Bert spoke out. He's a justice guy, he's a freedom guy. He has a record rather than just a record of checks that he's written. He has a record of actually doing things. And we, we need to make sure that, you know, Georgia's been a battleground for a long time for the establishment to come in and absolutely transform the state from red to purple to blue. And I feel like if Rick Jackson's elected instead of Kurt Jones, that that's probably going to be the final death blow. And I don't say that to exaggerate, but that will probably be the death blow for the state of Georgia.
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Mallory, hang on a second. I'm gonna hold you through the break. We're waiting to go to the Oval Office of the President and the head of Brazil, the head of the BRICS nations trying to destroy the US dollar, hint, hint. Mallory, Ray Staples is with us. Head director of the Freedom Caucus in Georgia. About a guy that a lot of people don't know a lot about, this Rick Jackson, billionaire just kind of floated in from the ether short break. Here's your host, stephen k. Banff. Mallory, this is an old strategy of coming in late, coming in with a lot of money and defining yourself before people have time to do the due diligence. He's clearly backed not just establishment candidates, I mean, the most vicious anti Trump, anti MAGA candidates. He's also involved in a bunch of situations that are just against the MAGA, the Right to Life agenda. He's all over H1B visas. I mean, this guy is bad from stem to stern. It's just more happy talk. Billionaire are going to sprinkle some money around and there's going to be some groups that either need the cash or get sucked up in this. So just give me your assessment, give me the Freedom Caucus assessment. And look, I like Bert Jones a lot. Bert's not perfect, but you got to compare and contrast of what you got. And Bert Jones has been with us there. And some of the toughest fights that we've had in Georgia is a, is a bear pit when you come to politics, ma'. Am.
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It is a bear pit, absolutely. We just, it goes back to we have to have an educated voter. We have to have people understand the abhorrent hypocrisy of this candidate saying that he is pro life, super conservative, faith based and then profiting off of the very centers, the very action of abortion. I don't know how you could talk out of both sides of your mouth more clearly than to do that. And you know, Jeff Duncan, like I mentioned, has been dethroned completely here in the state of Georgia and exiled from the party at large. And Jackson is one of his biggest supporters. So, you know, and I wonder just high level, when I step back, where has he been since 2020? We have had many, many a battle here in Georgia for freedom, for the Constitution, for the rule of law. And he has been silent when Burt Jones, as you stated, and I would state every day, all day, has been in the fight with us. Rick Jackson has not been in the foxhole and he had the means to step in and help save the state. And he was on the sidelines doing other things, making money as our, you know, we're fighting for conservative values. He's making money and donating money his wife donated to Planned Parenthood. I mean, you just can't have it both ways. And so if the voters stop to, you know, look at the landscape, take in the facts, see what's going on, I'm not sure how there's even a conversation between the two candidates. And certainly for the Christian community, evangelicals, there couldn't be a greater line of distinction with these two candidates. And those are the facts. I mean, he sued the Trump administration in order to bring foreign workers into the country. And it's pretty. It's outrageous about doing that.
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Yeah, he's anti Maga. It's outrageous. We're not even sure he ever voted for Trump. I mean, that's still uncertain. Where do people go on social media to follow you and the Freedom Caucus where they can get information about this? Because we're getting down to the short strokes in Georgia, and Kemp is not doing anything to delay it for the redistricting. Georgia, to me, is a mess right now. I tell you what, it's a mess. You could have a guy like Ossoff, who should be easily beatable, looks like right now, could win Georgia by two or three points. I mean, it's just. And if he does that, he's going to tee up a presidential run. So, folks in Georgia, the grassroots have got it together, but the establishment's fighting them harder than they fight Democrats, Ma'. Am.
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Well, if Ossoff wins, it will be with the help of the Jackson family, as Rick Jackson's wife contributed, we know now, to Ossoft's campaign. It's really. It's outrageous. So we need the voters to not let all the money and the commercials influence them, but rather the facts. So I'm all over social media, X, Instagram and Facebook, Mallory Staples, as well as the Freedom Caucus Network. You can find us on all those platforms. And thank you again for getting the message out to be smarter. Georgia, don't be bought.
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We will do this a lot more. We got to do it. Mallory, great work. The Freedom Caucus now in Georgia, South Carolina. You guys are doing the Lord's work. So thank you.
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Thank you, Steve.
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Tonight, we'll have a report. The Freedom Caucus down in South Carolina is hugely in back of this, getting rid of Clyburn's district. We'll get more to that. Joy Pullman over at the Federalist, you had a magnificent piece that really, because msnbc, you know, they're interviewing Pence, they're getting Pence on Meet the Press everywhere. He's. He's the man of the moment. You saw what happened in Indiana last night. But a lot of that had to do with money. Of course, it was President Trump, but it was, you know, this issue about. They fought it, but Pence puts himself out as representing a conservative movement and a conservative cause that's vibrant and robust. Your article, you disagree, ma'.
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Am.
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Can you walk us through it?
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Well, Mike Pence really is able to recruit a decent amount of money and attention from the same people who really want to tamp down on what the voters want, but he really is not able to have much purchase among voters. And these resounding results in Indiana from Tuesday night are really just another indication of that. It was just, you know, knock down, drag out, you know, win for really transforming the party in the state. You had these two wings, of course, the usual insurgent conservative wing supported by Governor Braun, US Senator Jim Banks, really a kind of a vibrant side the of of the party attempting to transform it. People will say kind of in a more Trumpy direction, but I would actually say more direction along the policies and the transaction and the delivery that Trump excites and gives to voters. And then the other side of the party, of course, is kind of the people who really just get elected in order to continue getting campaign donations from local businesses. They don't really have an agenda. They don't understand the existential crisis seized many of them, compounding that the country is in and the really need and desire and urgency for having serious, sustained action to meet those problems. So, you know, Mike Pence really represents kind of the past of the gop, where voters are done with that. I do think people respect him for his personal integrity is absolutely a great thing not to sleep around with other women. But voters also can see that there are other virtues that are important than just temperance. One of the four cardinal virtues is also courage. And courage is something that President Trump absolutely has in spades and that voters are really responding to as the virtue of the moment that they want to be following into some victories over Democrats that really want to destroy our country, destroy our future, destroy our children. And so it's been really kind of a motivating moment to see these victories. In Indiana, the people who voted against redistricting, they were listening to the wrong side of the voters. They were really, I would say, misled by local and corporate media, as well as the activism among the Democrats to really cloud and confuse their minds. And they should have been having better listening sessions because clearly their voters really want a different direction for the party and that to be all the way down to the local level.
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I want to go into that for a second because Pence, he's out now, very aggressive. He's raised some money through some corporate donations and big donors to set up this kind of think tank. But he presents himself that he's an alternative to the MAGA movement. And what he represents and what his policies really represent is a call to the highest virtues of the kind of classic conservative movement. And he holds out that in Indiana, you know, he speaks for Hoosiers, that this is the Hoosier way. Do you find that to be? Because I know there was 13 and a half million dollars spent in this about the state Senate, but it came down to this redistricting fight and particularly guys like Banks who were at the forefront of it of just a different philosophy of going forward. So does Pence really represent the Hoosier way? Does he really represent a robust alternative, a vibrant alternative to the MAGA movement?
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Well, I do think that Mike Pence had a lot of love here in Indiana in his early days, when in fact he was really fighting for and delivering the conservative policies that people here really resound around. Things that kind of, for example, you know, we're still continue to elect people in his former congressional district. The voters there really respond to that sort of vision of America. But as he kind of ascended up the political ladder, his ambition really started to destroy the virtues that people were voting for him to achieve. And I think a signal moment of this was in the 2015 RFRA Religious Freedom Restoration act fight. Mike Pence was at the helm of the state when we became a watershed moment for the entire censorship industrial complex attached to all the LGBT queer sort of things. He, Mr. Virtues led his entire party not only to reverse simply allowing people to use their religion as a defense for defending their free speech in kind of civil matters. Not only did they reverse that religious protection law in Indiana under Mr. Conservative Values Mike Pence, also they enacted protection, special privileges for queer identities here in Indiana. Any conservative state that does not want that. So there's. So voters began to see, as Mr. Pence moved up the political ladder, an increasing detachment from what he said that he supported and what he did with the authority that he had with his office. And of course, that continued when he kind of parachuted out of discontent with him in the state when he became vice president. And of course, all of the voters are aware of kind of the way that he mishandled his office during COVID lockdowns, really to be a voice of basically what really brought down President Trump in the 2020 election, destroying the entire economy, not to mention eliminating our first freedoms to assemble, to treat religious worship at least on an equal basis as receiving marijuana. You know, so. Mr. You know, some, I mean, again, I do think that Mike Pence does have some virtues. I do celebrate his fidelity to his wife, but I think he has more than a little hypocrisy to go around and he has not been able to to sustain those virtues and the rest of them needed to govern the people as the way that we deserve to be treated under a constitution as he's moved up that political ladder. So I mean, I respect for what he has done in the past, but frankly, voters have seen that Mike Pence, when you give him more power, he has already achieved beyond the level of his capacity. And they're ready for new blood for a new kind of party that kind of returns to what they were originally looking for Mike Pence to do in the first place that he failed to do once he gained the power to protect them in the ways that he had promised.
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B
Joy, the work that Shaun Davis and you and the team over at Federalist is second to none. I mean, every day I go, one of the first places I stop as a Federalist and just incredible articles like yours, what's your social media, where do they get your piece? But also I want people to put make sure the Federalist is part of their daily, particularly early morning media diet. Where do they go for all that, ma'? Am?
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D
Well, I just have two places. You go to thefederalist.com and the article we're discussing today is right there up in the left hand corner next to the number one. And then if you want to find me, the only social media I do is X. It's just oypollman, two L's, two N's.
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B
Joy, thank you so much. Fantastic work. Great work.
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A
Thank you.
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B
Joy Pullman. I'm sure they're having a detailed discussion and I think this is a real bilat. So particularly President Trump getting ready to go see Xi next week and there's a lot to go through there. He's talking to Lula, who's always been the Chinese Communist Party's representative in Latin America. So much of what President Trump is doing on hemispheric defense, this kind of started in Venezuela and other places, is cleaning out. You know, you got the Gulf of America, he's taking care of the Caribbean, the Caribbean islands. He's brimming it of being a pla People's Liberation Navy lake or a Russian lake. He's dealing with this. The embassy they have in Bahamas, which is really a military outpost, it's the Chinese Communist Party, the signals intelligence outpost. What he's done in Venezuela is extraordinary. Of course, we are extremely pro Bolsonaro here. We think Captain Bolsonaro, Yair, who is now very, very ill and and wrongly imprisoned, they're doing to him what they wanted to do to President Trump. But his son is going to be a breakout candidate in this election and Lula is no chance. If the election's fair, which the last election was not fair. They stole it, but they stole it. If the election is fair, President Bolsonaro's son will win, I think in a runaway because people there already are tired of Bolsonaro and are tired of Lula and Bolsonaro is already leading in the polls. So as soon as that happens, it'll probably be either in our last block or during the Charlie Kirk Show. If the president addresses the media and they've got the media right outside, we will obviously go there. Short commercial break I'm gonna try to get Ben Harnwell up in Rome. Rubio's just finished his meeting with the Pope and I might have some overall assessment of where we stand. Big five o' clock show coming up. Stick around. Short break. We rejoice when they're all no more. Let's take down the ccp. Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Okay, it looks like we're going to open up in the Oval Office during the Charlie Kirk Show. We're going to pass over Charlie here in a moment. I got Ben Harwell live in Rome. Bowling just sends me from cnn. Iran imposes new rules for straight of Hormu passage. CNN reporting vessels must complete application to ensure safe passion application with the Iranians. CNN's also reported that Iran rejects US Strait of Hormuz deal as unrealistic. Senior Iranian official Razai said Tehran will not accept a US Plan to reopen the Strait of Hormuz unless it includes reparations for war damage. We heard today that the Saudis called us off on Project Freedom. We have no allies over there. None. Zero. And Ben, did we act as a supplicant today? Did we put the Pope on notice that we're not interested in what he has to say about a just war, Sir?
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G
No, it was the former rather than the latter. We certainly didn't put the Pope on notice. The administration in the person of the Secretary of State. Marco Rubio went over to Rome, slept over to Rome as a supplicant as all the major headlines are carrying this. This was a visit with Marco Rubio going to mend fences or to repair ties. There's an interesting there are two points that I'd like to make from these developments, Steve. First of all, it's underlying and all the main coverage is carrying this that the Pope is an important political figure and President Trump realizes that he's an important political figure and that's why he sent Rubio over There to mend fences, right? So the action has been to underline the Pope's moral authority in the political sphere. That's the first point I want to say. It's an absolute disaster from my perspective. The last thing that I want the press is reporting again that the Pope is someone whose opinion on this counts. Again, a disaster. Steve, it should be the other way around. It should be the people saying, observers and analysts saying President Trump is a person obviously of political importance. It's what he wants and thinks the things that needs to be cultivated. But that's not the consequence of this visit. The second point, Steve, I would like to make is this. You cannot destroy the arguments of someone of a spiritual figure in the political sphere if at the same time you are opposing them, you are playing up their moral authority. Doesn't work. All you're going to do is create a situation where you have disagreements and they're going to be performative. But on issues like to the United States, existential issues like the illegal third World invasion, the Vatican is a key sponsor of that. And nothing is going to happen unless the Vatican and the institutional Catholic Church realizes that it has to back down in the face of popular anger. Sending Marco Rubio over in these terms is inimical to the objective that MAGA and America first want. I will close with this. I sent this through to Denver from the Press association, one of the big four international press agencies. They carry an analysis of this visit and they quote Gianpiero Gramalia, who's the former head of Answer, which is the Italian version of Reuters. And Gramalia basically says this, the Press association quote this. They say he and other Italian commentators believe Rubio, instead of sort of smoothing the waters, was looking to smooth over relations with the Pope for his own political ambitions as well as the 2028 presidential race. I think that observed that observation is worthy of consideration. It is disgraceful, Steve.
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B
Absolutely, disgracefully, totally disgraceful. Anyway, we'll get you on tomorrow morning, Ben. We can go through this in more detail. This is absolutely disgraceful. And you're right, they're one of the instigators in back of this mass migration issue. Anyway, Ben, where do people go to get your analysis between now and then, Sir?
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G
Detta, my social media platform of choice. Type in my surname Harnwell and there I am with my provocations. Thanks, Steve. God bless. Catch you tomorrow.
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B
Thank you, brother. Great, great, hot take, as we say, disgraceful. To tie your political ambition onto what is a very, very, very complicated situation. And the Pope prevost is not trying to be helpful here at all. To the United States of America and what is in the vital national security interest of the United States of America. Mike Lindell, give us an update. How's it going in your race for governor? And then we want to talk Mother's Day. Deal, sir.
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You guys, the governor race is going great. We've raised the most money of the Republicans. We've been doing just about an event every day. I did one yesterday and the day before. Both of them were five hours long. I sat there and answered every. There were hundreds and hundreds of people sat with them afterwards and asked each and answered each and every question. We have so much hope here in Minnesota, spreading the hope that, yes, we can win Minnesota. We can beat Amy Klobuchar. And I keep pushing them to him, Steve going, what a blessing the fraud is. Remember, the fraud all happened under Amy Klobuchar's watch, too, everybody. So if you all want to help there, we really need your help. We can win this. It's Mike Lindellgov.com it's Mike Lindellgov.com you guys can see everything we're doing. We have an amazing campaign set up over 67. We divided Minnesota into 67 Senate districts. I have teams set up in every single district. Kind of like when I made the cause of America. So we can win this with your help. Steve. I want to get on here, too, with the MyPillow. You guys, great things out of my pillow. My employees, we are going strong with the new factory. I'm going to get. It's kind of two sales colliding, but we wanted to get you the Mother's Day special. This one is our two flagship products. The lowest price we've ever done either one in history. This is the MyPillow Premium Pillows. You get the queen size for 18.98. These are the gusset of the premium one. With the gusset, we've sold over 88, almost 85 million my pillows. Now get your mom the queen size king size, only a dollar more. And then our flagship Giza Dream Sheets. The Giza Dream Sheets, you guys. The queen size, 69.98. That's the lowest price in the history of my pillow. And we're doing it for the war room posse for Mother's Day. Go to my pillow, mypillow.com forward slash, war room. And then you're going to see all these specials. We still have the free shipping on the mattresses and the mattress toppers shipped right to your front door for free. And then remember now to call 800-873-10628. And remember now to call 8008-7310-6280-0873. Use that promo code. War room. Talk to my employees. They all speak English. It's a beautiful day, and I'm going to go down there right now. Steven. I'm going to take five calls, so everybody call me now.